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vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 09:15

Shouldn't have pissed away £30m on Shevchenko then!

With the size of your transfer kitty every window you have no excuse not to have enough cover for every position on the pitch. That said, the signings you have made haven't had such an impact as ours has.

For next season you need to get rid of Drogba. Although he can have great games, and they're usually against the big teams, his ego is damaging your team and you're not winning some games that you should be winning comfortably.

Keyser Soze

13-05-2008, 11:54

Shouldn't have pissed away £30m on Shevchenko then!

With the size of your transfer kitty every window you have no excuse not to have enough cover for every position on the pitch. That said, the signings you have made haven't had such an impact as ours has.

Lol, come on! It was a freak situation where all four of our centre-backs were out, 2 keepers got injured in one game etc. That was just our luck at the time - ANY team in the world would struggle. Not to mention losing all their vital players for a significant period of time at important times of the season. I'm not even using this as an excuse (maybe a testament to how well we did, but not an excuse), but no-one on earth could have predicted the crisis at the start of the season.

Top Gun

13-05-2008, 12:24

I honestly believe that United have had a fair bit of luck the last two seasons. I know im clutching at straws and sounding bitter but if we had a fully fit squad for the majority of the season we would have won the league.

We've hardly played with our preffered back 5 (Cech included) and I think that played a huge factor in our performances.

We have played less Premiership football with our preferred back line as Neville has been out all season. That's our captain too, I doubt any other teams would of managed to do so well. Also we spent a lot of the season with only two fit strikers.

Every team has had injuries, if Arsenal didn't lose Eduardo and Sagna they would probably of done much better.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 13:26

What's the big deal about Richards being in Manchester anyway? He does play for Man City.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7127/1184040522276lb8to9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AgentZero

13-05-2008, 13:30

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/650/yodabiography3np4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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get the joke, he does not.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 13:51

Thoughts on Luís Fabiano? I want a bigga boy personally.

fick

13-05-2008, 13:52

Not sure you're his type... :shifty:

Edit: Ooops! As a striker - he's not set the world alight in previous years. Done alright this year though.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 13:54

I'm everyone's type. :rapeface:

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 13:58

Fabiano - no

We need a striker that ISN'T similar to Rooney and Tevez. A Ruud type played would do nicely.

fick

13-05-2008, 13:58

rapeface? Now that's a smiley i've never seen...

See Edit! ^^

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:07

I wouldn't want him in a roll about. He fights like a fucking retard.

nLQubgk9EkY

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 14:08

lulz, I remember that.

It was like the Matrix, with Neo vs Smith where they're as good as one another, and keep blocking every attack - just in pansy mode.

fick

13-05-2008, 14:08

Fabiano - no

We need a striker that ISN'T similar to Rooney and Tevez. A Ruud type played would do nicely.

I remember saying the same when we got Tevez, but that didn't work out too badly. Agree we do need a proper poacher/target man though.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:13

I won't hold my breath but hopefully Manucho can step up.

fick

13-05-2008, 14:14

Not had the pleasure to see him in action yet. What type of player is he? Is he any good?

Jesus

13-05-2008, 14:15

According to some/wiki, Manucho can play on the left wing too. :erm:

I hope he won't end up dethroning our King, Dong.

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 14:17

I remember saying the same when we got Tevez, but that didn't work out too badly. Agree we do need a proper poacher/target man though.
Yeah, but 3 similar players? We need a Yabadabadoo of our own, me thinks.

Oh, and Dong is officially the worst player to ever play for us. That's taking Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba into account too.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:20

Please don't insult Dong. If you play him, they will come.

fick

13-05-2008, 14:20

Yeah, but 3 similar players? We need a Yabadabadoo of our own, me thinks.

A what?

Oh, and Dong is officially the worst player to ever play for us. That's taking Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba into account too.

Not true. I believe Taibi was officially the worst...

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 14:21

A Yabadabadoo, like Arsenal have.

Taibi helped us (just) beat Liverpool at Analfield, so he's cool with me.

fick

13-05-2008, 14:22

Ahhh! Now i get ya.

On Tiabi, a fucking lamppost would've done the job as well if not better.

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 14:23

nLQubgk9EkY

Fabiano fights like an Olympic swimmer.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:23

Anyone remember David Bellion? He reminded me of Henry.

Lenny Henry.

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 14:24

nLQubgk9EkY

Fabiano fights like an Olympic swimmer.
Already posted ;)

fick

13-05-2008, 14:25

Bellion's doing Ok now though. I never thought he was that bad tbh. Just not up to the level of the players we had at the time.

Keyser Soze

13-05-2008, 14:27

Yeah, but 3 similar players? We need a Yabadabadoo of our own, me thinks.

Oh, and Dong is officially the worst player to ever play for us. That's taking Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba into account too.
Fabiano isn't like Rooney or Tevez as he is actually capable of scoring 20+ goals, see La Liga top goalscorer. I can't see how you wouldn't want the guy tbh, he'd definitely suit the English game too.

And :laugh: at wanting a "bigger boy", you probably said the same of signing Van Nist.

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 14:29

Already posted ;)

I know where do you think I got the video. :rolleyes:

fick

13-05-2008, 14:32

Fabiano isn't like Rooney or Tevez as he is actually capable of scoring 20+ goals

This year yes, 34 in 44 games (all comps). However, 06-07 15 in 38 games, 05-06 a shitty 7 in 37. Pure class..? Probably not.

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 14:35

I hope to God they get him, there's a lot better than him knocking around.

We all know they'll just sign fucking Huntelaar though. :angry:

Jesus

13-05-2008, 14:37

Cristiano Ronaldo has played down fresh rumours linking him with a possible move to Real Madrid saying he is at the right club in Manchester United.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3559497,00.html

Good news there.

Edit: Hunter?! Hell Yeah!

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 14:38

Fabiano isn't like Rooney or Tevez as he is actually capable of scoring 20+ goals, see La Liga top goalscorer. I can't see how you wouldn't want the guy tbh, he'd definitely suit the English game too.

And :laugh: at wanting a "bigger boy", you probably said the same of signing Van Nist.
Don't quite get that last bit? :erm:

What I mean is their type of play is similar. If Plan A isn't working we need someone up there that we can try Plan B etc. Yes he can score more, but we've already got Ronaldo to bang in 40+ ;) lol

Keyser Soze

13-05-2008, 14:46

Huntelaar will be at Real Madrid.

Am I the only one who think Alfonso Alves can/could've done a great job at any top Premiership side? I just think he's got everything you'd need in a goalscorer man - if he stays fit next season, he'll be well into double figures.Don't quite get that last bit? :erm:

What I mean is their type of play is similar. If Plan A isn't working we need someone up there that we can try Plan B etc. Yes he can score more, but we've already got Ronaldo to bang in 40+ ;) lol
The last bit wasn't directed at you; someone said they wanted a "bigger boy".

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:47

I think it was fick.

fick

13-05-2008, 14:48

Thoughts on Luís Fabiano? I want a bigga boy personally.

....

Unless it was a compliment?

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:50

On the subject of bigga boys, Saha. To keep or not to keep?

AgentZero

13-05-2008, 14:51

ben-ze-fuckin-ma...is all i want for the summer (sounds rather camp)

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 14:55

On the subject of bigga boys, Saha. To keep or not to keep?

I think you should most defiantly keep him. :ninja:

fick

13-05-2008, 14:57

Keep. Give's our Physio's something to do.

Zoolander

13-05-2008, 14:57

I think you should most defiantly keep him. :ninja:

Resist keeping him? :unsure:

You guys should keep Senderos.

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 14:59

Just don't ask, I must of picked that after I typo'd "definitely". :doh:

Rambo

13-05-2008, 15:11

Fabiano - no

We need a striker that ISN'T similar to Rooney and Tevez. A Ruud type played would do nicely.

Fabiano isn't similar to Tevez or Rooney. He wouldn't be a bad addition to the squad but isn't my 1st choice.

Jesus

13-05-2008, 15:14

Trigger the buy-out clause that Rossi has?

.:jester:.

13-05-2008, 15:29

its been said that we're supposed to be buying owen this sumemr for £7 mil, which should solve the 'we need a different striker' problem :)

providing he stays fit and finds his feet well i rekon he would be a good edition for us, plus he and rooney can work on their partnership for international duty with england.

fick

13-05-2008, 15:37

its been said that we're supposed to be buying owen this sumemr for £7 mil, which should solve the 'we need a different striker' problem :)

providing he stays fit an find his feet well i rekon he would be a good edition for us, plus he and rooney can work on their partnership for international duty with england.

:laugh:... oh god i hope not!

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 15:42

Owen for 7m is good business if you can get him. There's bags of goals left in that fella if he stays injury free.

fick

13-05-2008, 15:46

if he stays injury free.

Big 'if' based on the last couple of years.

Hunter

13-05-2008, 15:47

Owen for 7m is good business if you can get him. There's bags of goals left in that fella if he stays injury free.

I agree to an extent, but the main problem with that is "if"" he can stay fit. Not worth the risk to be honest I don't think, especially if we can manage to get another striker who doesn't have a track record of injuries, we already have Saha.

Dundon's

13-05-2008, 15:56

Of course, another way of looking at it is he would probably only play in the big games and would be able to get plenty of rest with the size of your squad,

Risky signing regardless but considering the age/price and quality he's maybe worth a gamble because lets face it, you aren't exactly fucked if gets injured.

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 16:27

Owen has lost a yard or two since his injury. Thanks, but no thanks.

.:jester:.

13-05-2008, 16:40

Top Gun

13-05-2008, 22:05

Fabiano is owned by MSI, the same guys who own Tevez so the £7m we've heard about would be to Sevilla, fuck knows how much MSI would want.

I wouldn't mind keeping Saha but we need to bring in a new striker still, hopefully Huntelaar will join the team he supports...

Jonny2J

13-05-2008, 22:08

Owen for 7m is good business if you can get him. There's bags of goals left in that fella if he stays injury free.Not the type of striker Man Utd need.

Cobinho

13-05-2008, 22:46

Not the type of striker Man Utd need.

Owen will score goals anywhere. You and a couple others were so critical of him, he then went on a scoring run, hes proved people wrong his whole career. He would succeed at Man Utd.

Jonny2J

13-05-2008, 22:51

Owen will score goals anywhere. You and a couple others were so critical of him, he then went on a scoring run, hes proved people wrong his whole career. He would succeed at Man Utd.You forgot to add thanks to the tactically naive Kevin Keegan though for re-inventing him.

I don't think I ever said he wouldn't succeed at Man Utd, my post certainly never said that, he deserved criticism at the time, he missed some absolute sitters. He's paid enough to score goals, yet some of the chances he missed were appalling.

He isn't the type of striker that they need though, they need someone with a bit of presence, something different to what they have got, they've already got two small strikers in Rooney and Tevez.

I'm quite surprised you haven't come on here to gloat like you normally do, oh no wait that was a dig at me for criticising Owen, so you possibly have.

vanNistelrooy

13-05-2008, 23:23

What's he got to gloat about? He's a Spurs fan! :erm:

Cobinho

13-05-2008, 23:32

Keegan has put him in a role that has benifit your team. Its not a sustainable if want to achieve anything next year. Owen proved himself to have good link up play but he will always be an out and out striker.

Criticising a player is one thing but you lot laid all the blame on him and suggesting he was finshed. That has been proven to be wrong and therefor cannot be justified.

They do lack a big striker but that isnt necessarily what they need. Firstly Rooney has more presence than Van Nisterlrooy and without a big striker the have been more successful. I would say its more important that the next Man Utd striker has good movement and comfotabl linking play together.

And I wasn't gloating, it seemed like you were writing him off again (I see you were not doing that) so I was reminding you what happened the last time you did that. If I was going to gloat the time to do that would have been when he scored 6 in 6 immeadiatly after you wrote him off.

Yossi

13-05-2008, 23:33

Still being linked with Ashton for £10m. Hope that goes through; as we get a portion :)

fick

14-05-2008, 06:06

well like dundon's said, it aint as if we would miss him if hes injured and i agree that he would get alot of rest due to the size of our squad. i think fergusson should gamble, i mean he could be useful for those games were we need a result, like the middlesro' game, we could have used him to poke in that last goal we needed. i mean having two strikers that are very simmilar is pointless, and if we want rooney to find his form again then hes going to need a partner were he can feed off the loose balls and get a bit of link up play going.

We seriously don't need another midget up front. If we need to change styles to get goals againt teams who sit back, then there's nothing better than a big lumbering forward...

Still being linked with Ashton for £10m. Hope that goes through; as we get a portion :)

...like Ashton. I've heard worse suggestions.

wrigh2uk

14-05-2008, 12:02

fick

14-05-2008, 12:07

The same Van Nisterlrooy who was averaging about 25 goals a season ?
Wayne does not have the pressence that Ruud had or even has now.

Maybe not as an out-and-out striker, but then again that isn't his role. How often did you see Ruud track back, play a playmakers role or even on the left wing? Rooney is a completely different type of player so it's really an unfair comparison.

Keyser Soze

14-05-2008, 14:04

Maybe not as an out-and-out striker, but then again that isn't his role. How often did you see Ruud track back, play a playmakers role or even on the left wing? Rooney is a completely different type of player so it's really an unfair comparison.
Which is exactly his point. :unsure:

AgentZero

14-05-2008, 14:11

lets face it lads, the system used now by United is far more attractive and productive than what we had with Ruud. In saying that though we're starting to become over reliant on Ronaldo's goals.

Rambo

14-05-2008, 14:18

lets face it lads, the system used now by United is far more attractive and productive than what we had with Ruud. In saying that though we're starting to become over reliant on Ronaldo's goals.

Bollocks.

AgentZero

14-05-2008, 15:15

i think we are. Id really hate it to have a ronaldo out for a prolonged amount of time.

Rambo

14-05-2008, 15:35

i think we are. Id really hate it to have a ronaldo out for a prolonged amount of time.

How exactly are we relying on Ronaldo?

.:jester:.

14-05-2008, 17:02

How exactly are we relying on Ronaldo?

because hes basically scored most of our goals this season, and has the ability to change a game in an instant. this seasn we were pretty much a one man team.

Rambo

14-05-2008, 19:56

because hes basically scored most of our goals this season, and has the ability to change a game in an instant. this seasn we were pretty much a one man team.

So by relying you mean, we depend solely on one person to get our goals and no-one else? Yes he's scored most of our goals but contrary to popular belief, Tevez and Rooney are equally as important as Ronaldo. Whenever we need a goal desperately Tevez is the one who steps up and scores important goals where he has either won us a game or got us some vital points, something Ronaldo hasn't done. Rooney can also change a game in an instant, go back to the FA Cup match against Villa, 0-0 with 20 minutes left, once Rooney was brought on we were a completely different team and ended up winning 2-0. Whenever Rooney is absent we are not the same team and we end up losing. The Rooney and Tevez partnership is at 37 goals which is a healthy figure for strikers who are not genuine goal scorers, so to say we are a one man team is absurd.

:mrgreen:

14-05-2008, 20:07

So by relying you mean, we depend solely on one person to get our goals and no-one else? Yes he's scored most of our goals but contrary to popular belief, Tevez and Rooney are equally as important as Ronaldo. Whenever we need a goal desperately Tevez is the one who steps up and scores important goals where he has either won us a game or got us some vital points, something Ronaldo hasn't done. Rooney can also change a game in an instant, go back to the FA Cup match against Villa, 0-0 with 20 minutes left, once Rooney was brought on we were a completely different team and ended up winning 2-0. Whenever Rooney is absent we are not the same team and we end up losing. The Rooney and Tevez partnership is at 37 goals which is a healthy figure for strikers who are not genuine goal scorers, so to say we are a one man team is absurd.

Spot on; they are doing an amazing job, that's if not a better one than Ronaldo on the field.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rooney isn't playing in one of his favorite positions, and let's admit it, he's doing a great job at it. He's giving the team more, and if you look at the of assists he has got, it's I think the best of his team.

Cobinho

14-05-2008, 21:32

The same Van Nisterlrooy who was averaging about 25 goals a season ?
Wayne does not have the pressence that Ruud had or even has now.

Presence has nothing to with scoring goals, otherwise how much presence has Michael Owen got?

Remember the F.A Cup last year? The way Rooney hassled Terry and Essien is the perfect example, Van Nistelrooy could nevey that. Rooney has so much to his game people forget how powerful he is.

.:jester:.

14-05-2008, 21:50

So by relying you mean, we depend solely on one person to get our goals and no-one else? Yes he's scored most of our goals but contrary to popular belief, Tevez and Rooney are equally as important as Ronaldo. Whenever we need a goal desperately Tevez is the one who steps up and scores important goals where he has either won us a game or got us some vital points, something Ronaldo hasn't done. Rooney can also change a game in an instant, go back to the FA Cup match against Villa, 0-0 with 20 minutes left, once Rooney was brought on we were a completely different team and ended up winning 2-0. Whenever Rooney is absent we are not the same team and we end up losing. The Rooney and Tevez partnership is at 37 goals which is a healthy figure for strikers who are not genuine goal scorers, so to say we are a one man team is absurd.

mate i didnt mean we depended on him completely, i agree with what you've said. i just meant for the majority of this season he has been the main man on our team.

Keyser Soze

14-05-2008, 21:52

mate i didnt mean we depended on him completely, i agree with what you've said. i just meant for the majority of this season he has been the main man on our team.
No, you said you were "pretty much a one man team", so you pretty much did say you depended on him completely. :-/

MrConsistent

14-05-2008, 22:07

Still being linked with Ashton for £10m. Hope that goes through; as we get a portion :)

After seeing Darren Bent move to Tottenham for £16.5m last summer, I would be disappointed to see us sell Dean for 10 I must say.

wrigh2uk

14-05-2008, 23:07

Presence has nothing to with scoring goals, otherwise how much presence has Michael Owen got?

Remember the F.A Cup last year? The way Rooney hassled Terry and Essien is the perfect example, Van Nistelrooy could nevey that. Rooney has so much to his game people forget how powerful he is.

Ruud had it all, He could run at players, He could hold up the ball, pick out a decent pass, play in somone else, a target man for when Man Utd wanted to change to long ball if needed, Scored goals in big games

Ruud may not have tracked back, hunted down defenders and chased every lost cause but the guy had such a bigger pressence in the team than Rooney. Im not trying to compare on talent etc, but when I look at Rooney and Ruud I know who I'd pick.

Keyser Soze

14-05-2008, 23:14

Ruud Van Nistelrooy was/is world-class; but he certainly didn't "have it all".

wrigh2uk

14-05-2008, 23:22

Ruud Van Nistelrooy was/is world-class; but he certainly didn't "have it all".

Ok maybe not it all but as an out and out striker there wasn't much he was missing ? He couldn't shoot from outside the box lol

Keyser Soze

14-05-2008, 23:32

fick

15-05-2008, 08:03

As I say, he's world-class; and definitely one of the best around at what he did. I completely disagree that he was a huge presence though, he was hardly a player they could pump the ball up to and he'd be able to boss the defenders about or run them ragged.

He would, however, put the ball in the back of the net consistently and have a big knack for being in the right place at the right time, but I definitely don't see him as an outlet.

No-one's debating who's the better player (although it's hard to compare), but Ruud clearly just isn't that type of player.

Any player who scores 25-30 a season subsequently demands explicit attention from defenders. Is this not presence? Great players demand attention and respect, nay fear, from their opponents regardless of any limitations in their game.

Did Pele have presence? Of course he fucking did, but he couldn't tackle for shit and was quite lazy, also helped by being in an amazing national side. Eusebio? The guy was packed with presence, but he was a one trick pony. Get ball, score. The list could go on.

Ruud's ability to read the game, along with his build made him an excellent target man and we'll be hard pressed to replace that quality.

Usul

15-05-2008, 10:48

We're getting Pique for 5 mil. :smug:

fick

15-05-2008, 10:55

We're getting Pique for 5 mil. :smug:

Seriously?

Usul

15-05-2008, 10:58

Seriously?
Yep, agreed by player and clubs.

fick

15-05-2008, 11:00

Usul

15-05-2008, 11:04

Bugger. This only happened this morning? Not been on any site but this today & heard nothing on the radio...

If it is, then thats bad news. He's good on the ball, not bad in the air & looked like a good prospect for us.
I just read it in a 'reliable' website. They'd never risk making such an announcement if it weren't true. If it was just a rumour or a possible deal, i'm pretty sure they would say so.

It's to be announced a few days after the CL final.

fick

15-05-2008, 11:13

A good move by Barca in that case. Still a little surprised though.

Top Gun

15-05-2008, 11:29

Rio has signed a new long term deal until 2013, just need Evra to sign up now as his deal is running out at the end of next season.

AgentZero

15-05-2008, 11:42

bit gutted coz i would of loved Pique as a squad player for us and im sure we could of milked him for more than 5 million.

vanNistelrooy

15-05-2008, 11:42

fick

15-05-2008, 11:49

I'm not fussed about Pique. Was awesome when on loan at Zaragoza, but couldn't really adapt to football over here. Looked shaky, indecisive and would go for balls he really shouldn't.

£5m is good business on our part.

In fairness, he didn't really get the opportunity for a real stint in the side. Regardless, I would've preferred if we'd let him go on loan rather than a straight sale.

AgentZero

15-05-2008, 11:49

Lets hope we see mroe of Evans and the rest of the reserve lads make more of an impact next season.

vanNistelrooy

15-05-2008, 11:54

In fairness, he didn't really get the opportunity for a real stint in the side. Regardless, I would've preferred if we'd let him go on loan rather than a straight sale.
Whenever he got a chance he didn't step up. You'd think he'd be up for it, and try to really make an impression, but he never did.

He isn't good enough for us, full stop. I'd rather see Silvestre fill in than him.

fick

15-05-2008, 11:59

Whenever he got a chance he didn't step up. You'd think he'd be up for it, and try to really make an impression, but he never did.

He isn't good enough for us, full stop. I'd rather see Silvestre fill in than him.

Harsh. Never been the biggest fan of Silvestre (& his random heading ability). Pique at least has youth & will only get better. Silvestre's seen his day and is now nothing more than an average, injury prone relic.

AgentZero

15-05-2008, 12:06

Im in favour of keeping the mean age down.

Rambo

15-05-2008, 15:18

I'm pissed Pique's gone but I don't blame the guy as his opportunities were limited. Pique's got potential and i'm certain he'll do well at Barca.

Zoolander

15-05-2008, 15:23

That 5 million can go in the Micah Richards fund.

Original?

15-05-2008, 15:59

That 5 million can go in the Micah Richards fund.

Give us £20m and you can have him, I wouldn't be sad to see him leave for a fair sum.

:mrgreen:

15-05-2008, 17:45

http://fasterupload.com/files/jywhujfm99dpj5ybvda9.gif

Jonny2J

15-05-2008, 19:11

Did they let Steve Bennett in the official photo then?

vanNistelrooy

15-05-2008, 19:20

No but Kevin Keegan got a medal for gifting us 3 points at St James' ;)

AgentZero

16-05-2008, 00:00

and giving us a boost in the goal difference.

Jonny2J

16-05-2008, 00:06

No but Kevin Keegan got a medal for gifting us 3 points at St James' ;)Steven Taylor actually.

Jonny2J

16-05-2008, 11:21

We've been linked with Jonny Evans, I'd sign him purely just to piss the Mackems off.

wrigh2uk

16-05-2008, 11:43

Hmm that Ronaldo interview last night, it reminded of one Henry did before he moved to Barca when he was saying "Im happy here, for now I'm an Arsenal Player "

Akineye

16-05-2008, 13:28

Hmm that Ronaldo interview last night, it reminded of one Henry did before he moved to Barca when he was saying "Im happy here, for now I'm an Arsenal Player "

I think most United fans are honestly resigned to the fact that one day he will leave for Spain or Italy. All that can really be done is enjoying every game he plays for United and hoping to hell that it isn't this summer that he leaves. I've said all season long that the Premier League is the one that I want to win... it's the true test of a side's quality and the team who finishes the 38 games at the top of the league is the best side in the country at the end of the year, simple as. That said, I fear we NEED to win the European Cup if we want to keep watching the likes of Nani, Anderson and Ronaldo for more than the next couple of years. Whether winning in Moscow will be enough to achieve this, especially in Ronaldo's case, remains to be seen but if he leaves there aren't many better sides he can choose than the league and European champions.

Moving onto Pique's departure... it's a shame. He looked to be a promising player and we needed cover for Rio, Vidic and Wes. That said, if Pique leaving means that the priority and funds are both there to sign a first choice right-back in the summer, then it may not be a bad move. Although the likes of Lahm and Alves haven't been linked, a Wes Brown (who has been impressive this season) providing cover for one of those two and Rio would be a good amount of depth to boast going into the new campaign.

I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said regarding Sunday. Brilliant result and a fairly solid performance too, especially in the second half. Now reds can bask in Sunday's glory for another good... well 2 days before the nerves start kicking in. For me at least, this title will be a slightly phyrric victory if we don't make it a domestic and european cup double on Wednesday because honestly, this United side is the best in the country by a fucking mile. Proof of this is in our performances against the top sides this season bar Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. I've said it time and time again, but this is the best United side I've ever seen in my lifetime, and having got over that previously impossible European semi-final step, if we don't win in Moscow then... well I don't even want to contemplate it.

AgentZero

16-05-2008, 14:38

i really just think tis the media twisting a players words to best fit their needs.

Joel

16-05-2008, 15:35

i really just think tis the media twisting a players words to best fit their needs.

Nope. Saw the interview and those were the words he used.

"I am happy in Manchester. I want to stay. But only God knows what will happen in the future."

fick

16-05-2008, 15:38

Nope. Saw the interview and those were the words he used.

"I am happy in Manchester. I want to stay. But only God knows what will happen in the future."

Worst case scenario is £100mil in the bank. That's if Real actually have the cash...

Rambo

16-05-2008, 15:41

If we win on Wednesday hopefully it convinces Ronaldo to stay but on the other hand he might feel he's achieved everything in England and decide to move on. I'm praying it's the former.

Joel

16-05-2008, 15:41

I don't see him leaving for next season. But I do think he will be in Spain while he is playing at his peak.

Keyser Soze

16-05-2008, 16:11

I think he'll leave next Summer, personally. It was blown a little out of context, but he definitely hinted/said that he will leave for Spain eventually.

Billy Minof

16-05-2008, 16:27

Worst case scenario is £100mil in the bank. That's if Real actually have the cash...

He wont be going for 100m, It will be for alot less, about 60 max I reckon.

.:jester:.

16-05-2008, 17:43

i rekon ronaldo will stay at united for at least 2 more seasons before he decides to show what he can do else were. i think he needs to work on his confidence before he moves to a bigger side such as madrid, when i say confidence i mean he doesnt realy perform to the standard hes shown when he plays in big games. once hes overcome that then i dont see any excuse for him to turn down madrd etc. its sad to say and i hate the fact it might happen because hes done alot for united, but life goes on and im sure anderson and/or nani will become another great set of players for us.

Guillermo

16-05-2008, 18:27

He wont be going for 100m, It will be for alot less, about 60 max I reckon.

The only way you'd get him for that sort of money is if you throw in a couple of players to sweeten the deal.

I don't see Ronaldo leaving for another 3 years.

Zoolander

16-05-2008, 18:28

Sergio Ramos yes please.

wrigh2uk

16-05-2008, 20:21

The only way you'd get him for that sort of money is if you throw in a couple of players to sweeten the deal.

I don't see Ronaldo leaving for another 3 years.

Give it 2 years

greenegg

16-05-2008, 21:22

£100m for one player?

I don't give 2 shits who the player is that amount is preposterous and goes to show how wank the Financial side of the beautiful game is.

AgentZero

16-05-2008, 23:39

Nope. Saw the interview and those were the words he used.

"I am happy in Manchester. I want to stay. But only God knows what will happen in the future."
Those exact words say to me that he will no doubt assess his future 4/5 seasons down the track.

@greenegg: not the beautiful game most clubs aren't as pushy as madrid.

Joel

17-05-2008, 02:36

Those exact words say to me that he will no doubt assess his future 4/5 seasons down the track.

@greenegg: not the beautiful game most clubs aren't as pushy as madrid.

Four or five? I reckon after next season to be honest.

vanNistelrooy

17-05-2008, 13:18

Four or five? I reckon after next season to be honest.
Sounds about right.

MrConsistent

18-05-2008, 23:24

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7407247.stm

Vidic had better hope that Drogba doesn't react like he did in the Semi-finals.

Top Gun

19-05-2008, 23:46

So, the big day is approaching and I'm beginning to shit myself. Expected formations? I reckon the 4-5-1/4-3-3 will be on show like this,

-------------------VDS-------------------

---Brown------Rio-------Vidic-------Evra--

----------------Hargreaves----------------

------------Carrick-------Scholes-----------

-Ronaldo------------------------------Park-

------------------Rooney-------------------

I don't think Nani or Giggs will start ahead of Park as he has been superb in the CL and his work rate will be needed. Tevez and Nani will most likely be used as impact subs if needed, Fletch will probably get on too just to run his ass off.

Yossi

19-05-2008, 23:48

The work rate of Tevez is no worse than Park's and he has more ability too. He should start ahead of Park, in my opinion.

Top Gun

19-05-2008, 23:52

I agree on both accounts but looking at the teams we've put out in the CL this season I doubt Tevez will start. He has been used as a sub mostly, I would hate to see Rooney stuck out on the wing too. Although with the constant switching that will no doubt happen somewhen in the match.

Rambo

20-05-2008, 00:00

As long as we play 4-4-2 i'm happy, but I can't see that happening.

Jonny2J

20-05-2008, 07:18

If Park plays instead of Tevez it will be a bold sign from Ferguson about how worried he is about Chelsea, rather than taking the game to them.

AgentZero

20-05-2008, 09:10

i would prefer 4-4-2
VDS
Brown-Rio-Brown-Evra
Ronaldo-Carrick-Scholes-Park
Tevez-Roney
just go straight for the jugular.

skullverine

20-05-2008, 09:19

I think it'd be a 4-3-3

back 4,
Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves
Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney

somegooner

20-05-2008, 16:27

i would prefer 4-4-2
VDS
Brown-Rio-Brown-Evra
Ronaldo-Carrick-Scholes-Park
Tevez-Roney
just go straight for the jugular.

I don't get you United fans. One day you think Brown is shit the next you think he can cover in two positions??

.:jester:.

20-05-2008, 16:32

i dnt remember anyone telling me brown is shit, infact i think most people on this thread have praised brown as of late. hes a quality defender and has proven himself this season, i hope he signs a new deal for next season as theres been talk of him wanting to leave or something. plus yeah hes done well under the circumstances, having to cover two positions, i would be surprised if he doesnt start on wednesday.

somegooner

20-05-2008, 17:39

I meant two positions in one game like LostGalactico said. RB and CB.

vanNistelrooy

20-05-2008, 18:22

mufcsean

20-05-2008, 19:06

---------------VDS---------------
--Brown--Ferdinand--Vidic---Evra--
-Carrick----Scholes----Hargreaves-
--Ronaldo------Rooney-----Tevez--

That would be what i would choose, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Fletcher or Park included in there instead of Hargreaves. Park has played very well lately and Fletcher played very well and frequently at the start of the campaign so who knows.

My prediction for the score is 2-1 to us, Tevez and Ronaldo for us Fat Frank for them

greenegg

20-05-2008, 19:25

Manchester fertility clinics fear a shortage of sperm donors this week as 40,000 of their usual wankers head for Moscow.

AgentZero

21-05-2008, 00:17

I don't get you United fans. One day you think Brown is shit the next you think he can cover in two positions??ehhh.....meant vidic.:ninja: I really dont mind the lad, the general consensus is favourable its just zissou who hates him.

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 08:42

Manchester fertility clinics fear a shortage of sperm donors this week as 40,000 of their usual wankers head for Moscow.
Don't worry, the country still has you ;)

Anyone nervous about tonight's game? It hasn't for me yet, but give it time. Think I would have been worse if we hadn't won the league.

Jonny2J

21-05-2008, 09:30

Don't worry, the country still has you ;)

Anyone nervous about tonight's game? It hasn't for me yet, but give it time. Think I would have been worse if we hadn't won the league.Surprisingly not. ;)

Rambo

21-05-2008, 18:45

Nerves are starting to kick in.

Starting line up:
VDS
Brown
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Carrick
Scholes
Hargreaves
Ronaldo
Rooney
Tevez

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 18:55

Bricks.
Shitting.

wrigh2uk

21-05-2008, 19:32

All though i also would of picked Hargreaves, you have to feel abit for Park

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 20:32

Unlucky that.

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 20:34

Unfuckingbelievable.

Should be a couple up by now, then Chelsea go and equalise like that?

Makes me feel sick.

Miggy

21-05-2008, 20:35

Ouch, those kind of goals are never nice unless it's you scoring them.

Rambo

21-05-2008, 20:36

Pissed, I knew those missed chances would cost us.

Lorenzinho

21-05-2008, 20:41

Good game so far.

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 20:42

From a neutral point of view!

We should be a couple up by now, not level and will probably start the second half on the back foot.

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 21:37

We need an hero.

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 21:37

Saha :erm:

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 21:38

He's injured.

wrigh2uk

21-05-2008, 22:03

Where Ronaldo gone :ninja:

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 22:29

It's gone. :(

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 22:34

Get in you fuckers!

Miggy

21-05-2008, 22:35

Congrats.

wrigh2uk

21-05-2008, 22:35

Ronaldo, Win or Lose hes crying :crymore:

Congratulations you guys

Rambo

21-05-2008, 22:37

Fucking get in there!!!!!!

Miggy

21-05-2008, 22:38

He's a very emotional guy that Cristiano Ronaldo.

:/

Tart.

50!

21-05-2008, 22:38

It's gone. :(

Get in you fuckers!

Double post. :banplz:

Congrats but if John Terry hadn't wanted to hog the glory it would have been much different.

Lorenzinho

21-05-2008, 22:44

Congratulations Man Utd.

Sully

21-05-2008, 22:45

Congrats I guess

Original?

21-05-2008, 22:47

Shame Terry was a twat, I would have loved to see Ronaldo lose it for you. Though, t'was nice for Giggsy.

Jonny2J

21-05-2008, 22:48

I'm sure Terry was a Man Utd fan as a kid, double agent man.

papa

21-05-2008, 22:56

I could not be happier

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 23:04

I'm sure Terry was a Man Utd fan as a kid, double agent man.
lol.

Seeing him miss has made my season.

I think I almost had about 5 heart attacks over the course of the game.

Sully

21-05-2008, 23:06

Cockney reds annoy me!

Joel

21-05-2008, 23:07

Congrats on your third European Cup. You honored the Busby Babes well.

Figо10

21-05-2008, 23:08

The moment Terry missed was unreal, seeing that van der Sar had gone the other way too.

This' better than '99 :D

AgentZero

21-05-2008, 23:17

Chelsea were the btter team after half time, cech really kept them in it during the first.

skullverine

21-05-2008, 23:26

Absolutely delighted with the win. Thank fuck that Ronaldo's miss did not determine the result.

Jonny2J

21-05-2008, 23:27

Cockney reds annoy me!:)

Rambo

21-05-2008, 23:28

Suprisingly it was Rooney who went missing tonight, he usually thrives in the big games and is at his best. Personally, neither team was better than the other, both had great chances to win the game but didn't put them away. I would've been distraught had we lost tonight as we went through the whole campaign undefeated. Finally it's over, my heart couldn't take it any longer.

vanNistelrooy

21-05-2008, 23:32

Nemanja Vidic, what a performance.

Michael Ballack, what a cunt.

John Terry, what a crybaby!

Sully

21-05-2008, 23:33

:)

Just got this in a text

"MAAAAN UNTDD BRAAPP U NOE WHO DA CHAMPIONS... CHELSEA SUUCK LYK ALWAYZ."

What a cunt!

Zoolander

21-05-2008, 23:34

Oh my days.

Guillermo

21-05-2008, 23:40

John Terry, what a crybaby!

Feel sorry for Terry, one of the more likeable Chelsea figures for me. Would have much preferred it to be AssCole :w00t

requiem7

21-05-2008, 23:56

Joe Cole, Claude Makelele, Ballack and Drogba showd their worst side in the game tonight. especially Drogba. he let his team mates down. and cost his side more than Terry. But Utd showed great courage.
well done Utd, you are kings of europe again!

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 00:31

Don't blame it on the Ballack,
Don't blame it on the Lampard,
Don't blame it on the Drogba,
Blame it on the Terry.
He just can't,
He just can't,
He just can't control his feet!

Usul

22-05-2008, 00:33

He's a very emotional guy that Cristiano Ronaldo.

:/

Tart.
:laugh:

He was so close to falling into depression, but Terry had to slip. :no:

Dragonfly

22-05-2008, 01:08

We need an hero.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_yJ_86fqX5k
Cockney reds annoy me!
I really hope my manager isn't working tomorrow. I won't be able to stand his gloating much longer. I might need to chop his head off.

Zoolander

22-05-2008, 01:15

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_yJ_86fqX5k

This makes me want to go out & kick some ass.

Hunter

22-05-2008, 01:27

Feel sorry for Terry, one of the more likeable Chelsea figures for me. Would have much preferred it to be AssCole :w00t

Kidding me aren't you ? John Terry is one of the biggest cunts in football today, really was a picture perfect moment. Fucking glorious.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8694/vidichw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8694/vidichw1.fb70a34679.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=530&i=vidichw1.jpg)

AgentZero

22-05-2008, 02:01

he looks the part vida.

mufcsean

22-05-2008, 08:43

WOW.

What a game, the lads did themselves proud, i'm still speechless, can't believe we won.

As for terry, couldn't have happened to anybody better for me.

Lami

22-05-2008, 08:54

:smug:

:shifty:

http://a.imagehost.org/0002/Man_Utd_logo.gif

Sully

22-05-2008, 08:55

Kidding me aren't you ? John Terry is one of the biggest cunts in football today, really was a picture perfect moment. Fucking glorious.

Same can be said for Owen Hargreaves.

mufcsean

22-05-2008, 09:00

eDovnUYBvg0

Cobinho

22-05-2008, 09:08

The double is a great achievement. He won't but Fergie should retire now.

Wellzy

22-05-2008, 09:14

I can't believe, I was cheering United last night, it sickens me :( :laugh:.

Just shows my hatred of Chelsea to be honest. Drogba sending off a fitting end for such a prick. The Terry miss couldn't have happened to a better person :laugh:, unless it was Fat Frank.

In the first half, I though Ronaldo was awesome, but what the fuck was he doing for that penalty, the tart.

Enjoy number 3 lads, still 2 off us though ;)

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 09:18

Same can be said for Owen Hargreaves.
That seems more of a personal hatred for him. I know many people who hate the big headed cunt that is John Terry. Had so many texts flood through saying how glad they are it was him who fucked up.

Still, we shouldn't be bickering. Can't believe we've finally won it again. I had the best night's sleep, now the stress and worry has gone :)

Guillermo

22-05-2008, 09:40

Kidding me aren't you ? John Terry is one of the biggest cunts in football today, really was a picture perfect moment. Fucking glorious.

I dislike Drogba, Cole, Essien, Ballack and Anelka far, far more. At least Terry plays with a bit of pride and not just for the pay cheque.

ads

22-05-2008, 09:47

I dislike Drogba, Cole, Essien, Ballack and Anelka far, far more. At least Terry plays with a bit of pride and not just for the pay cheque.

Cracking point mate, Terry is a cunt but you can't question his commitment and heart...for his club at least.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 09:48

How much is John Terry on per week?

ads

22-05-2008, 09:51

How much is John Terry on per week?

Can't be any more than £300 :rolleyes:

Zoolander

22-05-2008, 09:56

Karma for them moaning about Tevez not giving the ball back.

Joel

22-05-2008, 10:20

Karma for them moaning about Tevez not giving the ball back.

Not really, as after the whole thing, we received a red card. We did behave very immature though, as we had done exactly what Tevez done to us, twice to you. If we had just behaved appropriately, Drogba would have still have been on the pitch and then who knows what would have happened.

Ah well. Terry's slip confirmed that we were not suppose to win it this year. It was your moment.

skullverine

22-05-2008, 11:35

Fair play to Terry though. If it wasn't for him holding Vidic, Vidic might be sent off.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:01

Apparently the United players are just getting ready to come home as they were partying until 10am!

Top Gun

22-05-2008, 12:03

The fact that he had to hold back Vidic is good to see, as I know if it had happened the other way round Drogba would of been on his back, rolling around.

Most of the Chelsea players were complete wankers yesterday and in the end as much as their play might of deserved the win, their attitudes were poor and made the victory all the sweeter.

McGregor

22-05-2008, 12:05

he looks the part vida.
If I was a fellow manager and could pick any one player from United, it would probably be Vidic. He's a rock in the heart of that United defence and looks immense most of the time. Drogba is a big lad but it would have been priceless to see what would have happened had Terry let him go.

I felt bad for John Terry. His commitment for Chelsea is top notch and unquestionable. Shame is wasn't Cashley.

And did anyone ever think Ballack was missing? The Germans are experts in regards to penalties and he hits them so well. ;)

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:08

Both my Dad and I looked at eachother and laughed, saying "well he won't miss this".

Vidic is a nutter, and I love him for it. So many times he'll stick his head in when anyone else would be able to see that there's a good chance their face will get kicked straight off, but he doesn't seem to care.

Top Gun

22-05-2008, 12:14

I was so happy when Terry missed after doing the old farmers spit on Tevez during the Drogba sending off melee.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:16

By the look of it Drogba was flemming up ready to spit on Vidic after he'd been shown the red card, but someone held him back from getting near him.

Dirty dirty player. Can't wait to see the back of him.

Rambo

22-05-2008, 12:20

I was so happy when Terry missed after doing the old farmers spit on Tevez during the Drogba sending off melee.

Aye, actually he snotted at Tevez not spit. Shame I can't show the vid. Hargreaves needs to chill man, he's constantly in the refs face which I don't like to see. Ronaldo for once stepped up last night, well in the first half.

Fergie says this current squad is his best, anyone agree? On paper it's strongest but i'd have the 98/99 over this one.

Top Gun

22-05-2008, 12:21

Terry snots all over Tevez' neck but covers it up,

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4619/terrysn7.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6041/tevezjs4.png (http://imageshack.us)

We'll probably get some better footage over the next few days.

Zoolander

22-05-2008, 12:23

Tevez was a bit of a legend last night.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:24

Aye, actually he snotted at Tevez not spit. Shame I can't show the vid. Hargreaves needs to chill man, he's constantly in the refs face which I don't like to see. Ronaldo for once stepped up last night, well in the first half.

Fergie says this current squad is his best, anyone agree? On paper it's strongest but i'd have the 98/99 over this one.
Ronaldo was very good first half, but like a lot of our players didn't show in the second.

You've got to think about the quality in opposition back in 99. It was a lot weaker and was fewer teams competing well for trophies too.

Let me see how they do next season, then I'll make my decision.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:31

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToPgf6TzVpM

AgentZero

22-05-2008, 12:32

one of the most reassuring moments was hearing from ronaldo that he is staying.

skullverine

22-05-2008, 12:34

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:36

All over the press saying that we'll see in a couple of weeks :/

Read the write up on the Chelsea website. Apparently Giggs miss-hit his penalty, but was fortunate as Cech dived the wrong way?

Top Gun

22-05-2008, 12:37

http://i30.tinypic.com/aylrn6.gif

The fact Tevez touches his neck makes me think something has happened.

Zoolander

22-05-2008, 12:37

I think we should take a punt on Adriano. He's a bigga boy.

AgentZero

22-05-2008, 12:40

http://i30.tinypic.com/aylrn6.gif

The fact Tevez touches his neck makes me think something has happened. what a horrible cunt, i saw this but i dismissed it as he kept on doing it afterwards too.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 12:42

You could see Terry saying something, the fact that he kept moving towards Tevez as he did it just makes it more obvious at what he did.

Top Gun

22-05-2008, 12:55

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2751/iiiiiiiiiiipppug2.jpg

That was legendary.

skullverine

22-05-2008, 13:02

I saw this on another website
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/23167/2066928990103265676S600x600Q85 .jpg

:laugh:

Zoolander

22-05-2008, 13:05

Since the season is now over post your favourite moments from this season.

s1X_Ji82xBU

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 13:11

AgentZero

22-05-2008, 13:27

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2751/iiiiiiiiiiipppug2.jpg

That was legendary.
red army does rule in moscow....see what i tried to do there?

Billy Minof

22-05-2008, 13:51

Well done Man U....great season overall and ye deserve all you won.

nath_scfc

22-05-2008, 14:05

I'm sure Terry was a Man Utd fan as a kid, double agent man.

Aye, well he is from darn Sarf.

50!

22-05-2008, 14:21

I'm sure Terry was a Man Utd fan as a kid, double agent man.

Says he was a big Celtic fan as a kid apparently.

dotty_84

22-05-2008, 14:32

one of the most reassuring moments was hearing from ronaldo that he is staying.

Really when he said that it'd didn't seem too 100% to me then he walked away as fast as he could. He's won everything he can with Man U apart from the World Club Championship, I think he'll leave.

Miggy

22-05-2008, 14:35

Usul

22-05-2008, 17:17

He says he's going to discuss his future next week and everyone will be satisfied. :/

If he does say he's interested in a move then we should at least put up some fight for his signature. Last thing I want to do is see him in a Real shirt, I can see the ads now. Everywhere.
If he does decide to leave now that he has won everything with United, which i doubt, i'm sure he'll do the sensible thing and come to Barcelona.

Who wouldn't want to see Ronaldo and Messi playing together? C'mon.

vanNistelrooy

22-05-2008, 17:40

http://i30.tinypic.com/aylrn6.gif

The fact Tevez touches his neck makes me think something has happened.
Stella also pointed out that Drogba spits on Tevez, and it's to this Tevez feels something.

Terry is just as guilty however.

Joel

22-05-2008, 17:44

If he does decide to leave now that he has won everything with United, which i doubt, i'm sure he'll do the sensible thing and come to Barcelona.

Who wouldn't want to see Ronaldo and Messi playing together? C'mon.

I disagree. I only see him leaving United for Madrid. Sorry.

I think he'll be at United next season though.

Miggy

22-05-2008, 17:48

If he does decide to leave now that he has won everything with United, which i doubt, i'm sure he'll do the sensible thing and come to Barcelona.

Who wouldn't want to see Ronaldo and Messi playing together? C'mon.

I just don't think we have the finance to compete with Madrid. We're useless when it comes to selling players and I'm not sure how much we have to spend anyway.

Usul

22-05-2008, 17:51

I disagree. I only see him leaving United for Madrid. Sorry.

I think he'll be at United next season though.
And what's the reasoning behind that?

Anyway, Nereida is from Mallorca, which means she is pretty much Catalan. :)
I just don't think we have the finance to compete with Madrid. We're useless when it comes to selling players and I'm not sure how much we have to spend anyway.
We have money, plus we're selling Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Deco and, most probably, Eto'o.

Joel

22-05-2008, 17:56

And what's the reasoning behind that?

Anyway, Nereida is from Mallorca, which means she is pretty much Catalan. :)

They are the only team showing serious interest in him - though being Madrid, they have gone about it the wrong way. His mother wants him to join them. And no offence, but Madrid are on the up, whilst no one knows where Barcelona stands.

Miggy

22-05-2008, 17:59

We have money, plus we're selling Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Deco and, most probably, Eto'o.

Dinho and Zambrotta are a season overdue and we'll be lucky to get 30 million for the both.

Seriously we're useless when it comes to selling players.

.:jester:.

22-05-2008, 18:09

apparently real madrid are going the sneakey way around things. according to skysports news, real are talking to his family, going straight to the glazers and completely cutting out ronaldos agent as well as fergusson because they say they dont want to wast time blah blah blah

seriously i would be happy for ronaldo if he goes to madrid to win more trophies because he has to be one of my fav players to ever play for united. but if madrid get him this way then i will have no respect for him what so ever, its just unfair to fergusson if the glazers make him sell his prised asset. still me losing respect for him wont make a scrap of difference, i just hate to see a team like madrid using dirty tactics to get their own way.

Usul

22-05-2008, 18:09

They are the only team showing serious interest in him - though being Madrid, they have gone about it the wrong way.
Various sources have said that Barcelona are waiting to see what Ronaldo decides to do. Then they will make a move, unlike that presumptuous fool.
His mother wants him to join them. And no offence, but Madrid are on the up, whilst no one knows where Barcelona stands.
Which is a perfectly good reason and time for Ronaldo to make a move to Barcelona.
Dinho and Zambrotta are a season overdue and we'll be lucky to get 30 million for the both.

Seriously we're useless when it comes to selling players.
Yea, but add to that 30 another 20, from Eto'o's sale, and a similar sum for Deco, and we've got Ronaldo's bid.

Definitely Maybe

22-05-2008, 18:32

Rambo

22-05-2008, 19:02

I agree - however it's not like Man United haven't tapped up players in the past is it...

Maybe so, but we don't openly try to unsettle a player and the club unlike Calderon who claims Kaka is one step away from signing for Real Madrid or I want Fabregas constantly despite both saying they want to stay at their current clubs. We are far from perfect but thats unprofessional.

nath_scfc

22-05-2008, 19:10

Dinho and Zambrotta are a season overdue and we'll be lucky to get 30 million for the both.

Seriously we're useless when it comes to selling players.
I'll give you a packet of pork scratchings for the pair then... :shifty:

Miggy

22-05-2008, 19:15

I'll give you a packet of pork scratchings for the pair then... :shifty:

Throw in a shandy and we'll talk :happy:

AgentZero

22-05-2008, 22:35

if worse comes to worse i would rather see ronaldo become a culo.

Jonny2J

22-05-2008, 22:38

Zoolander

23-05-2008, 02:50

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mr eko

23-05-2008, 07:52

^^

Is there anyway I can remove sig images, because I really do not want to see that every time i see your posts.

vanNistelrooy

23-05-2008, 09:52

^^

Is there anyway I can remove sig images, because I really do not want to see that every time i see your posts.
Don't visit the site?

Viperized

23-05-2008, 10:14

^^

Is there anyway I can remove sig images, because I really do not want to see that every time i see your posts.
Firefox and adblock

.:jester:.

23-05-2008, 10:33

I don't see how any fan can be happy to see their best player leave.

i didnt mean i would be happy to see him go. i meant i would be happy for him because at the end of the day its his decision and hes done alot for united and won all he can.

but it turns out he wants to stay anyway :)

Top Gun

23-05-2008, 10:55

Rio Ferdinand compared the European Cup to a Chocolate Orange.

"Its not Terry's, its mine".

Barry

23-05-2008, 11:06

I don't see how any fan can be happy to see their best player leave.

It depends how you look at it, you can't argue with his qualities but his demeanor and sportsmanship on the pitch is questionable at best. Now I'm somewhat idealistic when it comes to football, so its not the average football fans view.

If you want to win trophies then obviously, you shouldn't sell him.

AgentZero

23-05-2008, 13:09

It depends how you look at it, you can't argue with his qualities but his demeanor and sportsmanship on the pitch is questionable at best. Now I'm somewhat idealistic when it comes to football, so its not the average football fans view.

If you want to win trophies then obviously, you shouldn't sell him.
would the average fan view goals as bigger priority than demeanor?

EDIT: Has anyone been following the reserves, firend of mine ha Setanta and consequently has MUTV, watched the senior cup final at old trafford and Possebon was quite good. Would be hard to break Carrick, Scholes, Hargreaves and Anderson but i reckon he could have a solid run out next season.

Barry

23-05-2008, 13:40

would the average fan view goals as bigger priority than demeanor?

Goals, and subsequently trophies, yes. I can't blame them, but I prefer my team to be without such players. Unfortunately my team isn't without those kind of players.

uA - 1905

23-05-2008, 13:42

Goals, and subsequently trophies, yes. I can't blame them, but I prefer my team to be without such players. Unfortunately my team isn't without those kind of players.
What, Celtics?

Barry

23-05-2008, 13:44

What, Celtics?

There are some characters on the roster there too, but I was referring to Ajax.

skullverine

23-05-2008, 14:11

Anyone has downloadable videos of the celebrations? I'm looking for the one with Vidic wearing a policeman's hat.

.:jester:.

23-05-2008, 15:23

look on youtube and download em from there

nickpring

23-05-2008, 22:35

Just seen that my hometown team Cardiff have signed Tom Heaton loan for the season. What's your thoughts on him? Is he better than Enckleman?

wrathchild_uk

23-05-2008, 23:40

Does anyone know of any sites with the highlights of the match....and yes i did watch it...just wanted to re-live the moment again yeah!