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Ziss
16-06-2008, 10:05
Sat Aug 16 - Newcastle (h)
Sat Aug 23 - Portsmouth (a)
Sat Aug 30 - Fulham (h)
Sat Sep 13 - Liverpool (a)
Sat Sep 20 - Chelsea (a)

Rambo
16-06-2008, 10:19
Not bad, i'm just glad we've got Liverpool and Chelsea away early in the season.

AgentZero
16-06-2008, 10:19
blimey 2 big games consecutively..away too. The run in is pretty tough also Tottenham, Boro, City, Arsenal and Hull

Ziss
16-06-2008, 10:25
You didn't expect us to get an easy run in, did you!?

AgentZero
16-06-2008, 10:30
well the past 2 seasons have been tricky..

Keyser Soze
16-06-2008, 16:37
You didn't expect us to get an easy run in, did you!?
LOL

Manchester United are so hard done by. :-(

Ziss
16-06-2008, 16:53
LOL

Manchester United are so hard done by. :-(
It could have been worse, like Bolton at home :rolleyes:

Wouldn't be surprised if the main threat came from Arsenal to be honest. Would also be lovely to see Chelski crash and burn ;)

Oh, and by the way, when I posted that the United website had us down as AWAY to City, when we're actually home. Not AS difficult, but still a derby that close to the end of the season doesn't fill me with confidence.

Foxhound
16-06-2008, 17:35
That's a tough run-in :/

Jonny2J
16-06-2008, 17:38
So hard done by yes!

I expect a first game spanking and I'm sticking by that prediction!

Ziss
16-06-2008, 18:01
I'd say it is a bit of a bitchy run in. We always seem to get one of Arsenal, Chelski or Liverpool.

Newcastle seem to remember how to at least TRY to play football under Keegan nowadays, so it won't be too bad. I'd expect us to run out 2-0 winners.

Joel
16-06-2008, 19:19
It could have been worse, like Bolton at home :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter, as I'm sure on the last day, you'll be able to handball in the box without being given a penalty against you. I'm also sure that you'll be able to make disgusting tackles and not be handed red cards for them :rolleyes:


Wouldn't be surprised if the main threat came from Arsenal to be honest. Would also be lovely to see Chelski crash and burn ;)

Man United and Arsenal thought they were each others biggest threat last year also. Look how that turned out...

Crash and burn? I'm sure you're not the only one who wants to see this happen to Chelsea. There's probably a line for this that dates back to 2003, so you should get your place in that line quickly!


[QUOTE=Zissou;1274459]I'd say it is a bit of a bitchy run in. We always seem to get one of Arsenal, Chelski or Liverpool.[QUOTE]

Let's be honest, all the "top 4" teams play each other in the run in every year. It's no different for Man United than it is for Chelsea, Arsenal and





Liverpool. (Had to make the gap between the other three and Liverpool realistic).

Ziss
16-06-2008, 21:19
I'm also sure that you'll be able to make disgusting tackles and not be handed red cards for them :rolleyes:
Disgusting? lol. Coming from a fan of a team who has Michael Essien in it.

Man United and Arsenal thought they were each others biggest threat last year also. Look how that turned out...
Yeah, there was no threat from anyone :D lol

Let's be honest, all the "top 4" teams play each other in the run in every year. It's no different for Man United than it is for Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool. (Had to make the gap between the other three and Liverpool realistic).
I'm talking about 2nd or 3rd from last game.

Hunter
17-06-2008, 11:26
Does anyone know when Ole's Testimonial tickets go on general sale ? Been waiting for a week or so now, and still I can't find any news.

Ziss
17-06-2008, 11:53
I too was thinking of going up for that, but literally days away from owning a house, so don't know if I'll be able to afford it!? :(

Hunter
17-06-2008, 13:40
I too was thinking of going up for that, but literally days away from owning a house, so don't know if I'll be able to afford it!? :(

Tickets are reduced mind, so it'll only be about £20. Plus it'll be the first time we get to see the trophies since we weren't allowed a parade, along with the fact I hear King Eric maybe playing a part in the match. :cool:

Well worth even £50 if you ask me.

Ziss
17-06-2008, 19:09
Spoken to my Dad, he seems up for it and has that day off work. Will also ask a couple of mates, as it's been way too long since I went up for a game.

When do we expect tickets to go on sale? Whenever someone finds out a PM will be much appreciated.

Hunter
17-06-2008, 19:17
Spoken to my Dad, he seems up for it and has that day off work. Will also ask a couple of mates, as it's been way too long since I went up for a game.

When do we expect tickets to go on sale? Whenever someone finds out a PM will be much appreciated.

Tickets have been on sale for a week or so now I think, but only to ST holders and Members. They'll probably be going on general sale in a weeks time is my guess, but it just depends whether they're sold out before the average joe gets a chance to buy them. Can see them selling out, but only a few weeks for the game itself since it's only considered a friendly however Ole has apparently said he wants it to be competitive. :cool:

I'll probably end up getting stuck in the North or South Stand. :mellow:

Ziss
17-06-2008, 19:19
We were members, but never went for years so cancelled last season. Doh! I might know someone who is a ST holder, so will ask him at the weekend.

Jonny2J
17-06-2008, 19:20
Fucking hell they'll give testimonials to anyone these days.

Ziss
17-06-2008, 19:22
Do us a favour and fuck off back to bittercuntland, will ya?

Taken from the United website:-

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Testimonial - MUFC v Espanyol, Saturday 2 August, KO 3pm

Manchester United will be selling tickets on behalf of Ole's Testimonial Committee for this game.

Sales will commence to ST Holders who wish to purchase their own seat from 8am on Tuesday 10 June online or by calling 0161 868 8000.

One United Members from season 2007/08 can make an application online from 8am on Tuesday 10 June or by calling 0161 868 8000. In the event of being oversubscribed an automated ballot will take place to determine successful applicants.

Should any tickets remain an announcement regarding sales to the General Public will follow in due course.

Ticket Prices are as follows (subject to availability):
North and South Stand Upper & Lower £28.00
North East / West Quadrants Tier 1 £28.00
North Stand Tier 2 (centre) £28.00
East & West Upper £28.00
East & West Lower £28.00
North Stand Tier 2 (wings) £24.00
North East / West Quadrants Tier 2 £24.00
East & West Tier 2 £24.00
North Stand Tier 3 £20.00

Jonny2J
17-06-2008, 19:24
I might be from "cuntland" but I can safely say I'm not bitter!

Ziss
17-06-2008, 19:25
Of United you sure as fuck are.

As for your hatred of Ole, if it's because of him doing to Rob Lee what anyone of us on this board would do, then I suggest you leave now.

Jonny2J
17-06-2008, 19:34
How am I bitter of Man Utd may I ask? Seriously have a word. I wouldn't support any other team, not in a million years. Am I jealous of your success? Having never sampled it I can't possibly say, as it's certainly not something that bothers me at all. I'll take supporting NUFC and everything that goes with it thank you very much.

wrigh2uk
17-06-2008, 22:23
Real Madrid could be ready to include Robinho in their bid to prise Cristiano Ronaldo away from Manchester United after the Brazilian's continuous attempts to be paid more at the Bernabéu.
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In a year that failed to see him step up to a higher level, the Brazilian international continued to demand an improved contract and that has not gone down well with the Merengue hierarchy, according to Sport.

Despite that, Robinho's stock is still high and Madrid believe that his inclusion in any offer for Ronaldo could help ease the current problems United are having with the idea of losing their superstar.

With talk of a fee anywhere between €80m and €120m being offered by the Spanish club directly to the Glazer family, who own United, the introduction of players into the deal could see that come down dramatically.

Madrid value Robinho at around €40m and are considering an opening gambit of €50m plus the former Santos trickster and are prepared to go higher if necessary.

The fact that Manchester United failed in their quest to censure Real Madrid over their public chase for Ronaldo has emboldened president Ramón Calderón and sporting director Predrag Mijatovic.

They are now reported to believe that it is only a matter of time before a deal is done, but know that they still need United to agree a fee.

Other players, such Sergio Ramos, will not be included in any offer although Madrid could be open to suggestions about any of their fringe stars should the England League champions be interested.

Lucas Brown, Goal.com

50m and Robinho - take the money , bring in Huntaelar

Hunter
18-06-2008, 08:33
How am I bitter of Man Utd may I ask? Seriously have a word. I wouldn't support any other team, not in a million years. Am I jealous of your success? Having never sampled it I can't possibly say, as it's certainly not something that bothers me at all. I'll take supporting NUFC and everything that goes with it thank you very much.

You were just looking for conflict mate, so don't post silly things.

As for the Robinho deal, well 50m Euros equals about £39m. Something I don't want, even when including Robinho. Lets say Robinho doesn't fully adapt to the Premier League and is a disappointment, then what ? His value will have dropped quite significantly, and it will have just been a shit deal to be fair. We know we can squeeze massive money from Real Madrid for Ronaldo, so I hope for at least £50m + Robinho if an exchange deal were to happen.

fick
18-06-2008, 10:45
£40M & Robinho. Rather not, though I am getting sick of the speculation & Ronaldo's obvious avoidance. If he doesn't want to move then why the fuck won't he say as much?

If this goes on much longer I will be glad to see the back of him. We can always use the cash to bring in some more talent. Only downer is if SAF hold true to his word & quits if the club sell Ronaldo without his agreement. That would be a sad day indeedy.

AgentZero
18-06-2008, 11:49
that would be absoulutely devastating. Best option now is trying to convince fergie part way with ronaldo.

Ziss
18-06-2008, 12:24
Wesley Sneijder + cash would make me the happiest person in the world.

Been wanting Wesley at United for a good few years. If Madrid want Ronaldo so badly, they can give us the Sneijdernator :D

AgentZero
19-06-2008, 22:40
right so his campaign has ended and he can finally gice us a F**kin response.

requiem7
19-06-2008, 23:22
right so his campaign has ended and he can finally gice us a F**kin response.

well he's apparently told the fat guy with the beard/moustache that reports on the Spanish league, that his premiership career is over. hope its just bllsht from sky sports.

But if its true, let him rot in the stand for a year.

he says he'll make a statement in a couple of days.

PESFan92
19-06-2008, 23:58
Better start looking for a Ronaldo placement lads. maybe Robinho or Quersma(sp).

Personally i think he will join Madrid

requiem7
20-06-2008, 00:16
Better start looking for a Ronaldo placement lads. maybe Robinho or Quersma(sp).

Personally i think he will join Madrid

Perhaps. But I could see Ronaldo sitting in the stand for a season. Real would have to offer a very amount.
I hope Utd buy Berbatov or Benzema. Or the both of them.

Haribo
20-06-2008, 00:20
I'd rather have one of 5 or 6 strikers at United before Berbatov. Especially considering his price.

Dundon's
20-06-2008, 00:26
I think a poll on if he'll stay or go is well over due.

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 00:27
Quaresma would be an ideal replacement but i dunno if he can replicate cristiano's overwhelming success. Also Anderson was injrued in the WC qualifiers, knee looks grim but they havent come ou and said whether it is a cruciate ligament o just a twist.

Yossi
20-06-2008, 00:29
Quaresma would be an ideal replacement but i dunno if he can replicate cristiano's overwhelming success. Also Anderson was injrued in the WC qualifiers, knee looks grim but they havent come ou and said whether it is a cruciate ligament o just a twist.

I heard on SSN today that the Brazilian medics say he is fine and could play for the Under-23s in the coming days.

Ziss
20-06-2008, 00:33
I think a poll on if he'll stay or go is well over due.
No point, he's off. And to be honest the way he's kept us in the dark about the whole thing is disgusting. Thanks for the glory you've given us Cristiano, but you can fuck off and rot in Spain.

Keyser Soze
20-06-2008, 00:36
:rolleyes:

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 00:37
No point, he's off. And to be honest the way he's kept us in the dark about the whole thing is disgusting. Thanks for the glory you've given us Cristiano, but you can fuck off and rot in Spain.
quoted with agreement, im having a clearance on my ronaldo kits aswell...Long Sleevies, 2007kit, 2004-2006kit. :ninja:
Also thoughts on the new away kit? I dont like it personally.

Ziss
20-06-2008, 00:42
:rolleyes:
What's wrong with that post then?

I'm grateful for what he's helped us achieve, but he wants to go to Real Madrid. I just don't like the way it's all turned out. If he wanted to stay he would have said from the get go.

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 00:44
i admire torres' class by saying that when there rumors ripe about him being on a few clubs transfer list he insisted he isnt going anywhere, amidst his Euro preparation wish i coudl say the same about our iberian pretty boy.

Ziss
20-06-2008, 00:46
Well he's only been here for the one season, so it's a bit different. Also the rumours of Chelsea wanting him have only been rumours so far, whereas with Ronaldo, Real have come out and said they will break the bank to get him.

Keyser Soze
20-06-2008, 01:00
What's wrong with that post then?

I'm grateful for what he's helped us achieve, but he wants to go to Real Madrid. I just don't like the way it's all turned out. If he wanted to stay he would have said from the get go.
God, I never thought I'd be defending Ronaldo but...

Maybe he isn't completely sure about what he wants to do and would rather make one of the biggest decisions of his career after Euro 2008 and concentrate on Portugal in the mean-time? And if he did then decide he has pretty much achieved everything he could in England and wants to move onto one of the biggest clubs in the world (which was always apparently a dream of his), I don't see how that makes him a cunt for doing so.

It's great that you're grateful, but wishing him to "rot in Spain" because he hasn't announced what he wants to do straight away is a bit out of order.

The Messiah
20-06-2008, 01:01
He never preformed in big games anyway so good riddance! :shifty:

Keyser Soze
20-06-2008, 01:02
Hear hear.

Ziss
20-06-2008, 09:15
On more than one ocassion he has said that he'd made his mind up before the Champions League final. So he's not "still deciding". I'm all for players moving on, but there's a manner in which to do it, and this damn well isn't it.

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 09:19
well he does state its not up to him, if he means god..then ok. But i hope he is refering to whether its not up to him if hes to be sold, which he isn't.

requiem7
20-06-2008, 10:53
Ronaldo is not for sale!

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E 6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D800F%2D4A311 0258114%7D&newsid=6612192

Ziss
20-06-2008, 12:30
Means nothing. If a player wants to go, and a club is offering silly money, he will go.

Hunter
20-06-2008, 12:33
Means nothing. If a player wants to go, and a club is offering silly money, he will go.

Just what I was thinking, I think we are just trying to ease the pressure a bit on Ronnie by making the statement. Keep the fans assured a little bit maybe, either way it's been dragged out so much I'm fed up.

Really hope he stays though, I'll be going to plenty of matches next year when I'm at Uni with my mates so seeing Ronnie again will be an added bonus too. Probably will cost about £800 for home games like. :mellow:

fick
20-06-2008, 12:39
Means nothing. If a player wants to go, and a club is offering silly money, he will go.

Let him go. Like hunter said, it's dragged on. Is it really worth keeping a player who is doing nothing more than unsettling the fans?

If he stays, will it be because he want's to or because we force him..? I'd rather he stayed because he wants to.

Haribo
20-06-2008, 12:45
Rafael Van Der Vaart has admitted that he is open to a move to the England League, but not until Euro 2008 has finished.

The Hamburg midfielder, who burst onto the scene with Ajax eight years ago, is reported to be a target of Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson and new Chelsea manager Luiz Felipe Scolari.

With Cristiano Ronaldo edging closer to the exit door at Old Trafford, Ferguson would be in the market to replace the Portugal international's creativity in midfield.

Stern competition for the player's signature could come from outgoing Portugal boss Scolari, who is set to be handed a hefty transfer budget when he arrives in West London on 1st July.

But Van Der Vaart is focusing all of his attentions on Holland's Euro 2008 bid for now, however, telling the The Sun: "Everybody knows I am willing to consider a move but my main focus is purely on the national team.

"I'm not interested in anything else that can put me off."

The earliest that any club can hope to hear of his intentions will be Saturday, when Holland take on Russia in the quarter-finals of the competition.



Haven't seen or heard a single rumour linking us with him to be honest, but I'd take him.

Ziss
20-06-2008, 12:48
Would rather have Sneijder!

If Ronnie does stay, I don't even want to know how much we're paying him!

Would be a shame to see him go now, as I haven't been able to get to a game for yonks. Last time I did Ruud and Becks were playing! :/

dotty
20-06-2008, 15:14
Means nothing. If a player wants to go, and a club is offering silly money, he will go.

Not necessarily i think if he becomes a moany cunt about wanting a move which is likely he'll be out of the squad list for most of the league games. This is more than just a player it's about the two biggest teams in world football if they sell him it'll make United look weak and Madrid getting there own way and being then valued as the best team currently.

I would still ask for 75 mil plus Robinho or Ramos

Sully
20-06-2008, 15:36
Man U Fan on SSN

"I'd sell him. Sell him for £80m and bring Messi in for £50"

:laugh:

Dundon's
20-06-2008, 15:45
If Ronaldo is worth 80m then Messi has to be worth at least a billion.

dotty
20-06-2008, 15:46
You see the Setanta txts at the bottom of the screen they're even worse.

Barry
20-06-2008, 16:21
I'd let him go if they offered crazy money like that. After this season for United, it can only go downhill right? Not that I myself would pay that much for him.

Plus then I can finally enjoy a United game without his arrogance, diving, moaning and idiotic step-overs. Joy!

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 17:23
Plus then I can finally enjoy a United game without his arrogance, diving, moaning and idiotic step-overs. Joy!
we call those games draws:ninja:....

Dundon's
20-06-2008, 17:24
After the statement Man U made I think it's time to break out the poll and sort it out now here amongst ourselves once and for all.

AgentZero
20-06-2008, 22:55
yes as the polls in pesgaming dtermines the outcomes of real life events. But in all seriousnes it would be a landslide 'he should go' for 2 reasons
1. the usual united supporters (i.e people who post in here) most have stated its better if he goes with the money were being offerred
2. non-united supporters hate the w*nker and will vote he should go.

Foxhound
21-06-2008, 04:54
If his heart is not with Man United, there's no point in keeping him

Hunter
21-06-2008, 09:37
If his heart is not with Man United, there's no point in keeping him

True, he'll only get abuse now I think especially with how he's dragged this out so for long.

Latest: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/manchester_united/article4183282.ece

Cristiano Ronaldo has underlined his growing disregard for Manchester United by saying that he is prepared to upset Sir Alex Ferguson to secure a world-record transfer to Real Madrid. The Portugal forward has made clear his determination to move to the Spanish club, who will make an opening bid for him within days, and yesterday he revealed that he has not spoken to Ferguson for several weeks while listening to the advice of Luiz Felipe Scolari, the new Chelsea manager.

Ronaldo declared within moments of Portugal's elimination from the European Championship finals by Germany on Thursday that he hopes to join Real and while a formal statement to that effect is expected to follow over the weekend, he continued his propaganda mission yesterday, adding that he had made his decision to leave United before the Champions League final win over Chelsea last month and that Scolari, who has stood down as Portugal coach to take over at Stamford Bridge the week after next, has urged him to accept the opportunity of a lifetime in Spain.

Ferguson maintains that United will not sell Ronaldo, who has four years left on a contract worth £120,000 a week, but when asked whether he was worried that his plan to join Real would upset his manager, the player said: “It is my opinion. That is why I don't mind if people get upset. It is my decision. It is what I want. I don't know what I have to say to him. I have to say what I want and what I think.”

Ronaldo added that he had not spoken to Ferguson since joining up with the Portugal squad more than three weeks ago, saying: “I was in a very important competition and we had nothing to say to each other.”

But even after Portugal's elimination, Ronaldo said that his preferred course of action was to issue a statement “and we will then see what happens.” The only immediate contact he is planning with anyone at United is with the club's medical staff, whom he will ask to prescribe surgery to cure a foot injury that he has been carrying for the past three months.

Although Ronaldo has not been in communication with Ferguson, who has been on holiday in the South of France, the player has been more willing to seek advice from Scolari, who may have a vested interest in the player's movements now that he is about to take charge of Chelsea.

“It [moving to Real] is a dream, a step forward, you can call it what you want,” Ronaldo said. “For me it is a great opportunity and, as Scolari says, that train passes by only once and we have to take advantage of it. That is why he took advantage of his change. Other people have to take advantage of opportunities, too.”

Ronaldo's next step will be to issue a statement over the weekend, in which he is expected to talk of the commitment he has shown, the performances he has produced and the trophies he has won for United over the past five seasons and to ask for their blessing to allow him to join Real.

That statement will be followed by a scheduled meeting of the Real hierarchy on Tuesday, after which Predrag Mijatovic, the Spanish club's sporting director, will be urged to open formal negotiations with David Gill, the United chief executive.

United responded to Ronaldo's comments by issuing a statement yesterday morning saying that he is “not for sale” and that the club are “not listening to offers”, which is in keeping with their stance since Ronaldo shocked them by stating on May 15 that he was planning to make an announcement about his future.

Initially, Ferguson and Gill suspected that Ronaldo was merely angling for an improved contract, but it has become increasingly clear that the player is serious about his intention to pursue his “dream” of playing for Real.

I honestly don't care anymore if he really did say that moving to Real would be a "step forward" etc, arse.

Ziss
21-06-2008, 11:39
I know if it's only The Sun, but £45m pls SNEIJDER.

That would be like waking up in the middle of the night, in a pool of your own semen.

Joel
21-06-2008, 12:13
How do you all feel about Scolari telling Cristiano to move to Spain?

Is he genuinely looking out for Cristiano, or just being smart since he is joining Chelsea?

CaptainCabinet
21-06-2008, 12:23
How do you all feel about Scolari telling Cristiano to move to Spain?

Is he genuinely looking out for Cristiano, or just being smart since he is joining Chelsea?

Which do you think? Cracking piece of mind games.

Joel
21-06-2008, 12:28
Which do you think? Cracking piece of mind games.

Scolari 1 - 0 Ferguson :smug:

Both Scolari and C.Ronaldo said that this train only comes along once, but I don't agree with that. If Madrid doesn't get him this summer, they'll be back in for him next summer. So it is not a once in a lifetime opportunity in my opinion. He just wants to leave now.

Jonny2J
21-06-2008, 12:31
I find it hard to sympathise with Man Utd in this instance due to them being more guilty than most in the past for things such as this, however I can't stand the arrogance of Real Madrid and the way they do this every summer does disgust me.

Dan
21-06-2008, 12:40
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/06/21/why_united_should_let_this_ego .html

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/whistle.gif

Ziss
21-06-2008, 14:16
Remember what happened to the last player who thought he was bigger than the club? :rolleyes:

Oh, and Scolari knew what he was doing. I probably would have done the same thing tbh.

wrigh2uk
21-06-2008, 14:26
Remember what happened to the last player who thought he was bigger than the club? :rolleyes:

Oh, and Scolari knew what he was doing. I probably would have done the same thing tbh.

Are we talking about David Beckham, who captained his country and became a near cult hero in his end at Real Madrid. Now single handedly pionering soccer in the states

Or are we talking about the La Liga goal machine that is Ruud V

?

Hunter
21-06-2008, 14:55
Are we talking about David Beckham, who captained his country and became a near cult hero in his end at Real Madrid. Now single handedly pionering soccer in the states

Or are we talking about the La Liga goal machine that is Ruud V

?

I think he's just referring to the fact that he was sold.

Miggy
21-06-2008, 14:58
Are we talking about David Beckham, who captained his country and became a near cult hero in his end at Real Madrid. Now single handedly pionering soccer in the states


I know you say "in his end" but what about the 2 seasons before that?

I've been to the states and no matter how pretty Beckham is he isn't going to make the game any more bigger over there. Probably just get more girls into it.

dotty
21-06-2008, 15:05
But it is getting the MLS noticed a lot more and it's getting taking seriously. So i think he is benefiting the US Soccer scene

Hunter
21-06-2008, 15:25
True, we've even got highlight shows every now and then, such as Tim Lovejoy's Soccer USA show.

Ziss
21-06-2008, 15:58
I was talking about Becks.

Ruud never thought he was bigger than the club, he just reacted wrongly to not starting when tbh SAF was right to play Saha ahead of him at the time.

PESFan92
21-06-2008, 16:17
Ok, losing Ronaldo is a big, big blow but its not the end of the world. Its not like they are going to finish outside the top 4 next season if he leaves. The whole Man Utd team is full of talent. They still have players who are capable of scoring 20+ goals a season. E.g.

Rooney
Tevez
Maybe Nani


Theres not alot of Clubs in the Prem who have more than 2 players that can score more than 20 goals a season.

wrigh2uk
21-06-2008, 16:23
I was talking about Becks.

Ruud never thought he was bigger than the club, he just reacted wrongly to not starting when tbh SAF was right to play Saha ahead of him at the time.

And talk about Karma ay :cool:

AgentZero
22-06-2008, 00:28
At this point i do wish ferguson will backflip and wants to sell Ronaldo to ....AC Milan :ninja: do the exact same thing as with Heinze.

Foxhound
22-06-2008, 05:50
Selling him to Barcelona would be funnier

Hunter
22-06-2008, 13:02
Selling him to Barcelona would be funnier

:laugh::laugh:

That would be gold.

Ziss
24-06-2008, 13:27
Ole tickets now on general sale...

Click me! (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={7F2F7A6A-588F-4F02-ADC0-1D8462EE4ADD})

Got mine :) South Stand, row CC.

Been so long since I've been! Does CC mean I'll be in row 29 or row 3?

Also anyone from down south go by coach? Used to go by train, which was free for me at the time as my Dad works for the Railway, but now need a cheaper alternative.

Hunter
24-06-2008, 17:36
Ole tickets now on general sale...

Click me! (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={7F2F7A6A-588F-4F02-ADC0-1D8462EE4ADD})

Got mine :) South Stand, row CC.

Been so long since I've been! Does CC mean I'll be in row 29 or row 3?

Also anyone from down south go by coach? Used to go by train, which was free for me at the time as my Dad works for the Railway, but now need a cheaper alternative.

South Stand, posh are we now. ;)

My Uncle is booking mine for the family, no idea where we'll be sitting to be honest. I'm not particularly fussed, just as long as I get to see the great Ole and King Eric again, along with the trophies of course.

Phil W.A.F.C
24-06-2008, 17:41
Ole tickets now on general sale...

Click me! (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={7F2F7A6A-588F-4F02-ADC0-1D8462EE4ADD})

Got mine :) South Stand, row CC.

Been so long since I've been! Does CC mean I'll be in row 29 or row 3?

Also anyone from down south go by coach? Used to go by train, which was free for me at the time as my Dad works for the Railway, but now need a cheaper alternative.

CC means row 29. You dont need to tell us you havnt been in a while we can tell.

Ziss
24-06-2008, 18:19
Still, not too bad seats I suppose.

The second to last time I went was Tevez's first game at Old Trafford...for Boca Juniors! Rio came off injured on his debut too. Last game was against Zalergwhatsit (the team with Sasa Illic in goal). We lost 1-0 in the first leg, and did them 5-0 in the second.

AgentZero
24-06-2008, 23:00
well its good to hear/read calderon is tuning down his comments for ron and will not go all out for him.

Hunter
24-06-2008, 23:14
well its good to hear/read calderon is tuning down his comments for ron and will not go all out for him.

I caught a bit of Sky Sports News earlier and journalist "Graham Hunter" believed that Calderon was only saying such comments to play down it all in order to not be pressured by FIFA since we asked for Real Madrid to be punished.

Meh.

AgentZero
24-06-2008, 23:24
here i thought he was rubbishing what marca said about madrid 'breaking the bank' and ' money not being an issue' hope this is true as if they are not willing to buy him for the prices we ask, he's not for sale.

moving on to other news, it seems silvestre isn't going to Bordeaux, its stil hazy whether silvestre wants to remain at united or that bordeaux cant splash out on him.

Ziss
25-06-2008, 00:13
Can't argue with that, as Silvestre is a very good backup. Looked decent in the games he did play towards the tail end of the season.

AgentZero
28-06-2008, 00:50
Carlos Queiroz has played down speculation about his future by declaring that he is happy at Manchester United.



Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant has been tipped to succeed Luiz Felipe Scolari as Portugal manager, while he has also been linked with a number of clubs including Benfica.


Queiroz accepts that nothing is ever a sure thing in football but he expects to continue in his current role for some time.


"I've been in the game too long to plan with any certainty beyond today," he said in the Daily Express.


"But in all likelihood I will be in South Africa next month with United for their pre-season tour."


Ferguson has spoken of Queiroz as a possible candidate for the top job at United and Queiroz is proud to be regarded so highly.


However, he believes it is far too early for him to start thinking about taking the reins from Ferguson.


He added: "I take nothing for granted. Sir Alex will be around for the next two or three seasons and a lot can happen in football in that time."
hopefully it is true.

Foxhound
28-06-2008, 06:15
Reds to release youngsters

The club have announced that five of their Reserve team members and two of their Academy scholars have been granted free transfers.

Midfielders Michael Barnes, Sean Evans and Ritchie Jones and defenders Kieran Lee and Michael Lea are all free to leave Old Trafford as of 30 June.

Academy striker Chris Fagan and fellow scholar Conor McCormack have also been released.

The club would like to wish each player all the best for the future.

From manutd.com

Surprised about Kieran Lee.

Phil W.A.F.C
28-06-2008, 18:54
My brother has just told me that one of his mates has heard that Sergio Ramos is jetting into manchester on Tuesday to speak to Man Utd. I dont know how true this is but i thought i spread the word. :smug:

Adammce05
28-06-2008, 19:31
My brother has just told me that one of his mates has heard that Sergio Ramos is jetting into manchester on Tuesday to speak to Man Utd. I dont know how true this is but i thought i spread the word. :smug:

Pfft would he fuck. Ramos wouldn't leave Madrid I don't think.

Wan
28-06-2008, 19:49
Yes, he's at the best times of his career at Madrid why should he switch to England and need to adapt to the life and the gameplay?

Joel
28-06-2008, 20:02
My brother has just told me that one of his mates has heard that Sergio Ramos is jetting into manchester on Tuesday to speak to Man Utd. I dont know how true this is but i thought i spread the word. :smug:

If he plays like he has for Spain in this tournament, then I'm all for it.

Haribo
28-06-2008, 20:07
Pfft would he fuck. Ramos wouldn't leave Madrid I don't think.

He's already admitted to a good relationship with the club and was even in Manchester a few weeks back. Having said that I still don't think he'll be joining us, even as bait in a Ronaldo deal.

wrathchild_uk
28-06-2008, 20:11
Sounds like aload of bs to me..

Phil W.A.F.C
28-06-2008, 21:21
Well why not? He might fancy a new challenge plus he has connections with Fabregas, Torres, Reina, Arbeloa who are all in the Spanish squad for the Euros. Real Madrid are nothing but a domestic team anyway so i dont blame him if he wants to join Man Utd.

Ziss
29-06-2008, 00:43
:laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00673/john-terry-tiny-tea_673552c.jpg

Keyser Soze
29-06-2008, 00:49
Well why not? He might fancy a new challenge plus he has connections with Fabregas, Torres, Reina, Arbeloa who are all in the Spanish squad for the Euros. Real Madrid are nothing but a domestic team anyway so i dont blame him if he wants to join Man Utd.
WTF? So? That's one of the worst links I can think of. :laugh:

AgentZero
29-06-2008, 02:42
Yes, he's at the best times of his career at (insert club) why should he switch to (insert country) and need to adapt to the life and the gameplay?
guess what player this is?

Ziss
29-06-2008, 09:25
Seems like he wants a new challenge/more cash/more fans to get behind him when others slate him for diving around like a pansy.

Like I've said, if he wants to go then let him go, I just wasn't happy how he left us all in the dark for so long, teasing us. Let's just use the money well (Huntelaar!)

AgentZero
29-06-2008, 13:01
im actually quite reassured that hes mentioned hell be at pre season training with us.

Miggy
29-06-2008, 13:12
If he plays like he has for Spain in this tournament, then I'm all for it.

Did you see him in the semi?
:smug:

He was back to his usual self. Arshavin didn't have sniff with him around.

Him against Lahm today should be great.

wrathchild_uk
29-06-2008, 22:10
Accourding to the mirror's stats utd have a higher win percentage when Ronaldo doesn't play...

Wan
30-06-2008, 08:14
They lost to us though last season. :smug:

Ziss
30-06-2008, 20:02
They lost to us though last season. :smug:
:nicolasanelkamissinghispenalt yhahahaha:

:copyrightstevezissou:

AgentZero
30-06-2008, 23:13
They lost to us though last season. :smug:
:camesecondtwicewhereitcounts:

Ziss
30-06-2008, 23:14
:fuckingcopycat:

AgentZero
30-06-2008, 23:22
:dontseeyournameonit:

Ziss
30-06-2008, 23:29
:yadon'treckon:

Can we just hurry up and sign Huntelaar?

Haribo
01-07-2008, 00:59
Fergie's stated we'll be buying 1 player this summer (assuming Ronaldo stays), and I think we're all in agreement it's a striker?

I would've liked a fullback too, but Neville seems like he may have one final injury free season, and Silvestre might well be staying meaning there's cover at left back.

JoeyM
01-07-2008, 01:06
Am I the only one who doesn't see why Ferguson would sell Van Nistelrooy because he didn't fit into your system, but then buy Huntelaar, a player who's even more limited, a year later?

AgentZero
01-07-2008, 02:43
yeah i fail to see the logic in signing someone like huntelaar, id prefer we buy a benzema/menez type striker.

Ziss
01-07-2008, 09:20
Am I the only one who doesn't see why Ferguson would sell Van Nistelrooy because he didn't fit into your system, but then buy Huntelaar, a player who's even more limited, a year later?
I wasn't because he didn't fit into our system. He wasn't in the starting eleven because we were playing awesome without him. The way he acted like a little kid was the reason SAF showed him the door.

Top Gun
01-07-2008, 11:35
I want Berbatov still.

Top Gun
01-07-2008, 21:29
They've arrived!

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1658/57556652uc5.jpg

No doubt they will flop. ¬_¬

The Messiah
01-07-2008, 21:32
They've arrived!

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/1658/57556652uc5.jpg

No doubt they will flop. ¬_¬

ktl6L3ZwvL4

Haribo
01-07-2008, 21:45
http://www.girl.com.au/img/noah_gray_cabey.jpg

requiem7
01-07-2008, 22:18
anyone here going to the Aberdeen game?

JoeyM
02-07-2008, 05:42
I wasn't because he didn't fit into our system. He wasn't in the starting eleven because we were playing awesome without him. The way he acted like a little kid was the reason SAF showed him the door.

you were awesome without him because he didn't fit into your system. When you replace a player who doesn't fit into your system with a player who does it's hardly a surprise you'll perform better as a team. Ferguson basically recognized he was dispensable and treated him as such.

Joel
02-07-2008, 12:26
you were awesome without him because he didn't fit into your system. When you replace a player who doesn't fit into your system with a player who does it's hardly a surprise you'll perform better as a team. Ferguson basically recognized he was dispensable and treated him as such.

I thought that before too, but later while having a discussion with a Man United supporter I know, my opinion changed.

If you think back to Ruud's last season, the central midfield was being filled with O'Shea, Fletcher or Alan Smith, as Roy Keane had left and Scholes was having problems with his eye. Those three aren't exactly going to contribute to free flowing football and they are not going to create many chances, as none of them have the creativity spark.

Now the season after Ruud left, United were able to play a fit Paul Scholes - who was instrumental in their success that season - and they added Michael Carrick to their first team. Both of these players have a eye for a killer ball and will always keep the ball moving to the wingers or front men, whilst the year before midfield would rather pass back or pass sideways. I think if Ruud had this midfield supporting him, he would have got a lot more chances, which he would have no doubt finished.

So I think it is wrong to say Ruud hampered United's playing style. It's more of having a shit midfield of Fletcher, O'Shea and Smith. I don't think any team would have much success with them as their first choice midfield.

AgentZero
02-07-2008, 22:56
there are some papers saying Roman Pavlyuchenko is on fergies radar, if he does come i hope he doesn't end up like another Poborski.

Ziss
02-07-2008, 23:37
Karel was klass! Totally bought off the back of that lob in Euro 96, but still was half decent. Saw him score a couple against Coventry back in the day, the little beauty (or beast).

Pavlyuchenko did look class at the Euros, but again it would be off the back of one tournament. That and he'd cost a bomb.

requiem7
03-07-2008, 06:01
Karl Poborsky was a decent player.

wrathchild_uk
03-07-2008, 19:25
I dunno about Pavlyuchenko as he seemed to miss quite alot of easy chances....

somegooner
03-07-2008, 22:23
Aren't you getting Manucho back?? Isn't he an out and out CF??

AgentZero
03-07-2008, 23:19
dont know how good he is, he rarely got a start with panna i think.

requiem7
04-07-2008, 05:43
anyone going to the Aberdeen game or the Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Testimonial?

Foxhound
04-07-2008, 10:21
Aren't you getting Manucho back??

I think there might be a problem on applying the work permit. Haven't seen much of him, only seen his goals during the African tournament.

Top Gun
04-07-2008, 14:23
He got 4 goals in 7 games for Panathanikos, he had trouble adapting to the climate to begin with. He hasn't got a work permit yet but is going on the pre-season tour to Africa with the team.

The Messiah
05-07-2008, 19:57
Ajax striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar has claimed Manchester United are 'very interested' in securing his services.

Contract talks between Ajax and Huntelaar recently broke down, leading to fresh speculation that the 24-year-old could be set to depart Amsterdam ArenA this summer.

A number of top European clubs - including United, Arsenal and Real Madrid - have been linked with a swoop for the Holland international following his impressive form in the Eredivisie.

Ajax are hopeful the forward may reconsider his decision to turn down their latest contract offer, however Huntelaar has claimed that United are monitoring his situation closely.

"I love clubs with great history like Ajax, I also love United," Huntelaar told Dutch reporters. "It's a club that makes me dream, especially as Ruud van Nistelrooy played there and did great things with them.

"I know certain English clubs are following me, like Manchester United, who are very interested in me."

Source (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3780859,00.html)

dotty
05-07-2008, 22:30
I'm pretty sure a reporter on SSN did say Fergie was after a striker so it makes sense, nice buy that would be. What do Man U fans think of Carlos Quiroz being linked with Portugal.

AgentZero
06-07-2008, 00:23
I'm pretty sure a reporter on SSN did say Fergie was after a striker so it makes sense, nice buy that would be. What do Man U fans think of Carlos Quiroz being linked with Portugal.
terrible, ive stated how much i would like carlos to be fergies successor many a times.

wrigh2uk
06-07-2008, 00:26
^^^ I just pray to god if it happens it goes better than his stint at Real.

Hunter
06-07-2008, 00:28
Isn't that Huntelaar interview from years ago, I remember him saying those exact words "I love clubs with great history like Ajax, I also love United". However much I'd like to believe it, seems it's all just rehashed shite.

AgentZero
06-07-2008, 00:32
^^^ I just pray to god if it happens it goes better than his stint at Real.
im sure it would be, he wont have to worry about club politics and what not. I think at his tenure he was severely restricted because of Perez.

wrigh2uk
06-07-2008, 00:43
im sure it would be, he wont have to worry about club politics and what not. I think at his tenure he was severely restricted because of Perez.

Yeah I do agree with you, I have to say I do like Quieroz. He just looks like a nice guy.

Ziss
06-07-2008, 01:09
Quieroz is more than welcome to manage Portugal. This kind of offer doesn't come every day.

Joel
06-07-2008, 01:27
Quieroz is more than welcome to manage Portugal. This kind of offer doesn't come every day.

I reckon it would come again at least once in his career, however managing Man United would not. Still it is not certain that he will succeed Ferguson, so he may want to take the Portuguese job.

Top Gun
06-07-2008, 02:26
I would be dissapointed if he went as he seems like a great guy and does a great job but I can understand why he would want to go.

There's rumours that Cantona will be back, as a coach, before the season starts, most likely to take over Solskjaers old job now that he has become the reserve team manager. I don't care if he comes back as coach or as a ball boy, I would love to see him back at the football club.

AgentZero
06-07-2008, 02:31
what ever happen to his vow of not returning to a glazer run United?

requiem7
06-07-2008, 06:22
what ever happen to his vow of not returning to a glazer run United?

He probably sees how they have not got in the way of running things.
they have supported their manager and given him funds to purchase players.

As long as they are successful I dont see that changing.

Ziss
06-07-2008, 10:11
I would be dissapointed if he went as he seems like a great guy and does a great job but I can understand why he would want to go.

There's rumours that Cantona will be back, as a coach, before the season starts, most likely to take over Solskjaers old job now that he has become the reserve team manager. I don't care if he comes back as coach or as a ball boy, I would love to see him back at the football club.
I'm just hoping he's here for Ole's testimonial! That would be fucking awesome!

Foxhound
06-07-2008, 11:56
The papers are saying that Arsenal are also interested in Huntelaar

Joel
09-07-2008, 17:34
Ronaldo's Girlfriend To Prevent Madrid Move?

Rumour has it that Cristiano Ronaldo's special lady, one Nereida Gallardo, could prevent his move to Real Madrid. Not only is the Mallorcan said to be eager to remain in England, but there may also be a nasty surprise awaiting them if they move to Spain...

Britain's classiest newspaper, the News of the World, claims that tensions could be immediately high if Ronaldo moves to the Bernabéu due to the presence of Sergio Ramos, with whom Nereida enjoyed a brief fling.

The paper gleefully squealed, "Cristiano doesn’t know Nereida’s already slept with one of Real Madrid’s top players.

"He’s a jealous guy and she’s kept it a secret from him because it’s something in her past. Sergio [Ramos is] a bit of a joker and the last thing she wants is him welcoming Cristiano to Madrid by announcing he’s already tackled his girlfriend."

Apparently the tryst took place after the two hooked up at the glitzy Madrid nitespot Joy Eslava.

"Sergio was there with two friends and they and Nereida’s mates all ended up back at his house. Sergio was all over Nereida and ended up leading her by the hand into his bedroom," concluded the article.

How much importance is actually to be placed on such gossip, even if true, is another matter entirely. As Cristiano and Nereida were not an item back then it hardly seems to be a make-or-break factor.

Ms. Gallardo's craving for the limelight, though, could be a considerably greater influence.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=7697 33

Haha.

wrathchild_uk
09-07-2008, 17:51
Doesnt he have a different bird almost every week though..he'd probably just tell her to do one anyway.

AgentZero
09-07-2008, 22:59
this is the man that dumped gemma atkinson btw.

AgentZero
10-07-2008, 22:51
Fletch is being targeted by Everton whilst Eagles could be going to Burnley. Id like Fletch to stay as he is a quality squad player other than those two bits of news there have been contrasting stories on the website as regarding to whom will replace Quieroz should he leave. Its either skills coach Rene Meulensteen or Brian Mclair

Ziss
10-07-2008, 22:52
this is the man that dumped gemma atkinson btw.
Her voice beeing deaper than anyone he knew might have had a part to play in that.

Top Gun
10-07-2008, 22:54
I heard that the old Liverpool No.2, Laurent Blanc and Eric Cantona are all in the frame too. Blanc had a pretty good first season with Bordeaux.

AgentZero
10-07-2008, 22:56
seemingly unlikely that laurent blanc will leave bordeaux, if im not mistaken he made a few dips in the transfer window.

Ziss
10-07-2008, 22:56
I think a role for Cantona at OT would be ace, but AM may be a little too soon for him? Possibly coach and work his way up?

AgentZero
11-07-2008, 01:02
yeah AM is far too soon id say a youth job with Ole or even as first team coach. I woudlnt mind this Rene character to be AM im sure it was he who had the reserve team winning some trophies a while back and hes currently a skills coach would bring more technical aspects to the table.

EDIT: sick to death about the ronaldo saga

Foxhound
11-07-2008, 12:47
Manchester United will receive around £1m in compensation after reluctantly informing Sir Alex Ferguson's assistant, Carlos Queiroz, that he is free to leave the club and replace Luiz Felipe Scolari as Portugal's coach.

The deal was hammered out last night by United's chief executive, David Gill, and the president of the Portuguese football federation, Gilberto Madail, after Queiroz rejected a pay rise at Old Trafford and made it clear he could not turn down the chance to take Portugal to the next World Cup.

Queiroz, who has agreed a four-year contract, has been in Lisbon finalising the arrangements but is expected to fly to Manchester today to complete the formalities and say his goodbyes to the staff.

His departure presents Ferguson with an unwanted problem ahead of the forthcoming season, not least because Queiroz was supposed to play a major part in persuading Cristiano Ronaldo to resist Real Madrid's advances. Ferguson hopes to appoint a replacement before the start of the season, the likelihood being that he will headhunt someone from outside.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/jul/10/manchesterunited?gusrc=rss&feed=sport
:no::no:

requiem7
11-07-2008, 13:49
I like Carlos Queiroz. He has always come across as a decent man. I think if he does go it will be with Utd's blessing. I am sure he'll always be welcome back too.
Sir Alex respects him and has been a huge influence at MU. I do not not think if he does leave it will have any less influence on Ronaldo's decision.

PESFan92
11-07-2008, 19:41
Ronaldo's dream has been to play for Madrid, call me stupid but that will be one big flop if he does move there. I was having a chat with my mates and we decided Barcelona would be a good choice.

Wan
11-07-2008, 19:58
It's not you who decides where he'll go though.

AgentZero
11-07-2008, 23:34
he irritates me beyond belief now. Fucking twat.

Foxhound
12-07-2008, 08:11
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6613705

what a shit off-season.

Is ten Cate still unemployed?

Wan
12-07-2008, 08:36
He's at Panathinaikos.

Phatmann
12-07-2008, 17:28
Report: Aberdeen 0 United 2
United made a winning start to the new pre-season campaign, as goals from Michael Carrick and Wayne Rooney sealed a hard-fought victory over Aberdeen at Pittodrie.

The hosts, celebrating the 25th anniversary of winning the European Cup Winners' Cup under Sir Alex Ferguson, piled plenty of pressure on the Champions League holders, and were unfortunate to see a first-half goal from Darren Mackie ruled out for offside.

United's class told in the latter stages of the first half and much of the first, however, and Carrick moved the visitors ahead by converting a penalty before Rooney powerfully headed home after the interval.

Rooney could have buried the hosts single-handedly inside 10 minutes, as he twice shot straight at goalkeeper Jamie Langfield and also had a powerful far-post volley blocked by a defender.

Although Aberdeen struggled to contain Rooney and the vibrant Ryan Giggs, they still probed menacingly during the opening exchanges, and Jeffrey De Visscher came close to opening the scoring before Mackie slid a finish past Ben Amos, only to see his effort chalked off by a linesman's flag.

The sell-out crowd had to wait until just before half-time to see the first goal, when Rooney was brought down inside the area by Langfield after a superb through-ball from Carrick. Rooney opted to let his England cohort take the spot-kick and, just as he did in Moscow, Carrick sent the goalkeeper the wrong way to put United ahead.

Immediately after the interval United's lead could have been doubled, but substitute Chris Eagles sidefooted Darren Fletcher's teasing cross over the bar from close range. The hosts, for their part, could have drawn level shortly afterwards, but Amos made a superb fingertip save from Jamie Smith's inswinging effort.

Rooney and Giggs continued to terrorise the Dons' defence, however, and the latter almost headed home the former's cross, only for substitute stopper Bertrand Bossu to brilliantly tip the ball onto the crossbar.

Twenty minutes from time, Rooney went one better by powerfully heading United's second goal. Darren Fletcher took Carrick's pass in his stride and curled in a teasing right-wing cross, which Rooney glanced emphatically into the far corner.

Danny Simpson had a long-range shot well held by Bossu and Eagles saw his chip deflected just past the post as United finished in the ascendancy, and held firm to post an impressive start to the new season preparations.

United: Amos (Woods, 73); Neville (Simpson, 46), Brown (J Evans, 61), Vidic (O'Shea, 46), Silvestre; Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes (Gibson, 61), Martin (Eagles, 46); Rooney (Hewson, 73), Giggs (Campbell, 61).
Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6613744&page=1)

Good to start pre-season with a win I guess.

Also, Ronaldo is gonna be out til early October as a result of the recent surgery he had done.

Seems we don't have a great deal of fully fit keepers at the moment too.:/ But I guess 1 or 2 will be back in the next few weeks.

Foxhound
12-07-2008, 18:36
Where was Foster?

Top Gun
14-07-2008, 15:47
Not sure why Foster didn't play, VDS is on an extended holiday break and I don't really care where Kuszczak is.

I hope that the Berbatov rumours are true.

The Messiah
14-07-2008, 18:09
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?in_article_id=217 261&in_page_id=43

Hmmm....

Dundon's
14-07-2008, 18:31
New poll needed here lads I'm sure you'll agree. :smug:

Haribo
14-07-2008, 19:31
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/article.html?in_article_id=217 261&in_page_id=43

Hmmm....

Fucking better not.

AgentZero
14-07-2008, 22:10
Fucking better not.
its reported on several sites aswell..much like the carrick deal..18M up front with 10M in clauses and appearance bonuses.

anyone see the banner at the reserves match?

requiem7
14-07-2008, 23:13
its reported on several sites aswell..much like the carrick deal..18M up front with 10M in clauses and appearance bonuses.

anyone see the banner at the reserves match?

yes, I've seen the banner. When Ronaldo comes back he is going to have to be playing top drawer football. Because I could imagine he's going to face a certain amount of stick from loyal fans. And I'm sure some of his team mates will be unhappy too.

At the moment I am wondering how many no7 shirts have been sold with his name on them?

AgentZero
15-07-2008, 03:02
have they unveiled the euro away kit yet?

Foxhound
15-07-2008, 04:53
Fucking better not.

Why not?

Top Gun
15-07-2008, 10:57
If Gareth Barry is worth £20m, then Berbatov is at least £28m. Like LG said, I doubt it will be all of it up front if it's true.

Cobinho
15-07-2008, 11:47
If Gareth Barry is worth £20m, then Berbatov is at least £28m. Like LG said, I doubt it will be all of it up front if it's true.

Its true that you lot want Berba its also true that you will have to pay close to the Premiership transfer record fee to get him. Hopefully that price is enough to put you off.

AgentZero
15-07-2008, 11:49
get ready to change that avatar

ads
15-07-2008, 11:55
I've just noticed the poll at the top of this thread, about player of the season.

I know Wayne Rooney had an excellent season, despite his relatively low goal tally, but how anybody could have voted for anyone other than Ronaldo is beyond me.

Cobinho
15-07-2008, 11:59
get ready to change that avatar

:laugh: there is a good chance he will be at Spurs next season.

ads
15-07-2008, 12:03
There's also a good chance he'll be at United ;)

AgentZero
15-07-2008, 12:07
There's also a good chance he'll be at United ;)
28 Million good chances.

ads
15-07-2008, 12:08
28 Million good chances.

Exactly.

Cobinho
15-07-2008, 12:13
There's also a good chance he'll be at United ;)

Theres an even greater chance Newcastle will not finish high enough up the league or win a trophy to enable them to qualify for European competition ;)

AgentZero
15-07-2008, 12:14
thats just uncalled for son.

Cobinho
15-07-2008, 12:22
28 Million good chances.

We would ask for that type of figue not sure that you lot would be willing to pay such a fee. I think its too much, which is why I think there is a good chance he will be at Spurs next season. Saying that if spent so much on Carrick anything is possible.

ads
15-07-2008, 12:36
Theres an even greater chance Newcastle will not finish high enough up the league or win a trophy to enable them to qualify for European competition ;)

Ouch.

That was a bit uncalled for was it not?

Cobinho
15-07-2008, 12:50
Ouch.

That was a bit uncalled for was it not?

It was meant to be light-hearted.

ads
15-07-2008, 13:07
It was meant to be light-hearted.

Aye I'm only joking man. Just bitter that yous beat us to the signings of Woodgate and Modric :no:

Foxhound
15-07-2008, 13:51
Its true that you lot want Berba its also true that you will have to pay close to the England League transfer record fee to get him. Hopefully that price is enough to put you off.

Sauce?

ads
15-07-2008, 13:56
Sauce?

The British press sir.

Meyyappan
15-07-2008, 14:23
I've just noticed the poll at the top of this thread, about player of the season.

I know Wayne Rooney had an excellent season, despite his relatively low goal tally, but how anybody could have voted for anyone other than Ronaldo is beyond me.

if i was a utd fan apart from ron the one player i would have voted would be roo or one of vidic and rio

PESFan92
15-07-2008, 19:39
Man Utd got Rooney for what £30 and turned him into a world class player, so what would stop Man Utd paying another £30 for Berba and turning him into a world class player. Its not like they can't afford it.

requiem7
15-07-2008, 20:03
Man Utd got Rooney for what £30 and turned him into a world class player, so what would stop Man Utd paying another £30 for Berba and turning him into a world class player. Its not like they can't afford it.

he already is world class.
You can see it shine through even playing for Spurs.
(I mean no disrespect in that comment as Spurs can be great on their day, they are just lacking a bit of consistency)
And if I was Spurs fan I would want to keep him. But he wants to play in the Champions league sooner rather than later.

McGregor
15-07-2008, 20:18
I see Sergio Ramos was shagging Ronaldo's bird. That would make an interesting conversation at the Madrid training ground. Top stuff ;)

Miggy
15-07-2008, 20:20
I see Sergio Ramos was shagging Ronaldo's bird. That would make an interesting conversation at the Madrid training ground. Top stuff ;)

Supposedly the reason to why they've spilt up recently.

Papa
15-07-2008, 20:26
Also his mum didn't like her.

Miggy
15-07-2008, 20:28
Also his mum didn't like her.

Who's mum ever likes their son's girlfriends!

But your right, she said she was just a gold digger.

AgentZero
15-07-2008, 22:03
Also his mum didn't like her.
a big must in ethnic families.

Dan
18-07-2008, 15:44
£100? :shifty:

You want my address? :blush:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7514329.stm

I.N Extasy
18-07-2008, 15:56
Good news that. I won't blame him if he does leave though.

Lord Shrimpeh
18-07-2008, 16:01
Man Utd got Rooney for what £30 and turned him into a world class player, so what would stop Man Utd paying another £30 for Berba and turning him into a world class player. Its not like they can't afford it.

Even with our debt, you're right we have got £30 ;)

BBC is reporting Fergie is confident Berba is signing. That would be awesome, he's proven as a great goalscorer in the premier league and that's quite rare to find. Hopefully we'll off load Saha and keep Ronaldo then we have plenty of opinions and an even stronger squad than last season.

wrathchild_uk
18-07-2008, 16:53
We might have trouble offloading Saha though...its a shame that he's so injury prone and shit because we could offer him as part of a deal for Berba...

Foxhound
18-07-2008, 16:58
Apparently Keane is interested to get Saha in pay-as-you-play deal.

Rainey
18-07-2008, 18:20
Apparently Keane is interested to get Saha in pay-as-you-play deal.

ha, brillant,

Adammce05
18-07-2008, 18:55
Does nobody find it quite funny that after all this Ronaldo stuff, SAF/Man United still come out and basically tap up Berbatov by saying their 'confident of signing him'.

Pot kettle black much ?

Keyser Soze
18-07-2008, 19:00
Does nobody find it quite funny that after all this Ronaldo stuff, SAF/Man United still come out and basically tap up Berbatov by saying their 'confident of signing him'.

Pot kettle black much ?
Difference being Spurs have pretty much come to terms with the fact that Berbatov is leaving and are just waiting on the best offer, while United still seem adamant in keeping Ronaldo and Real still put on pressure.

Adammce05
18-07-2008, 19:02
Difference being Spurs have pretty much come to terms with the fact that Berbatov is leaving and are just waiting on the best offer, while United still seem adamant in keeping Ronaldo and Real still put on pressure.

I guess man but it still seems as though their doing the same thing(again !) but there'll be a riot if Ronaldo leaves because what Real done was 'morally wrong' or whatever.

I dunno just the way I see it.

The Messiah
18-07-2008, 19:12
Difference being Spurs have pretty much come to terms with the fact that Berbatov is leaving and are just waiting on the best offer, while United still seem adamant in keeping Ronaldo and Real still put on pressure.

:ohmy:

Sticking up for Manchester United?!

I still wish epic fail on Chelsea.

Cannon ball
18-07-2008, 19:15
Difference being Spurs have pretty much come to terms with the fact that Berbatov is leaving and are just waiting on the best offer, while United still seem adamant in keeping Ronaldo and Real still put on pressure.

Tapping up is tapping up, in my eyes.

Keyser Soze
18-07-2008, 19:21
:ohmy:

Sticking up for Manchester United?!

I still wish epic fail on Chelsea.
Don't hate on the bigga boys. :shifty:

Tapping up is tapping up, in my eyes.
Tapping up means doing so without the club's permission so...

Cannon ball
18-07-2008, 19:57
Tapping up means doing so without the club's permission so...

Hmmm.....

Liverpool and Manchester United have been reported to the Premier League by Tottenham Hotspur following their respective interest in Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov.

Spurs are unhappy with the conduct of their top-flight rivals following speculation linking Keane with a move to Anfield, and Berbatov with a switch to Old Trafford.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez has expressed his interest in Keane, while United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken of his optimism of concluding a deal for Berbatov.

However, Spurs have criticised the two clubs, with chairman Daniel Levy feeling they have to take the matter up with the Premier League.

Sheer arrogance
"Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players," said Levy in a statement on the club's official website.

"It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the Premier League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid.

"This comes after a series of events, dating back to last summer, which have shown Manchester United to be in breach of Premier League (PL) rules. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.

"Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week.

"The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player. Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of PL rules of conduct.


Negative influence
"Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the club's permission.

"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either. However, when a player's head is turned and their commitment is absent, particularly when they occupy key positions such as that of striker, they become a negative influence in a team dressing room in which they were once a positive addition and influence.

"This is the situation we now have on our hands, with both Dimitar and Robbie having made it clear that they wish to leave for Manchester Utd and Liverpool respectively.

"Irrespective of the outcome and futures of Robbie and Dimitar, we are continuing to seek to bring in quality, talented players for the future, who want to play in a Spurs shirt."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3835579,00.html

wrigh2uk
18-07-2008, 19:58
Don't hate on the bigga boys. :shifty:


Tapping up means doing so without the club's permission so...


Liverpool and Manchester United have been reported to the England League by Tottenham Hotspur following their respective interest in Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov.

Spurs are unhappy with the conduct of their top-flight rivals following speculation linking Keane with a move to Anfield, and Berbatov with a switch to Old Trafford.

Reds boss Rafa Benitez has expressed his interest in Keane, while United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has spoken of his optimism of concluding a deal for Berbatov.

However, Spurs have criticised the two clubs, with chairman Daniel Levy feeling they have to take the matter up with the England League.
Sheer arrogance

"Today's public comments by Manchester United's manager, announcing that he has made an offer for Dimitar and is confident that the deal will go through with time working in their favour, is a blatant example of sheer arrogance and interference with one of our players," said Levy in a statement on the club's official website.

"It is also probably one of the worst offences by any manager in the England League to date and is unbelievably hypocritical given his recent comments in respect of Cristiano Ronaldo and Real Madrid.

"This comes after a series of events, dating back to last summer, which have shown Manchester United to be in breach of England League (PL) rules. As a result, we have today made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Manchester United.

"Benitez made similar comments in respect of Robbie recently and we made an official complaint to the PL about the conduct of Liverpool earlier this week.

"The behaviour of both clubs has been disgraceful. We told both clubs very early on that we had no interest in selling Robbie or Dimitar, respectively, and that they should refrain from pursuing the player. Both clubs arrogantly chose to ignore this request and we now have evidence that both clubs have systematically been working to prise the players away from us, outside of PL rules of conduct.

Negative influence

"Our subsequent position has been severely compromised by both clubs making their intentions widely known and indeed making contact with the players and their agents, without the club's permission.

"I have absolutely no wish to sell either player and to date we have not accepted any offer for either. However, when a player's head is turned and their commitment is absent, particularly when they occupy key positions such as that of striker, they become a negative influence in a team dressing room in which they were once a positive addition and influence.

"This is the situation we now have on our hands, with both Dimitar and Robbie having made it clear that they wish to leave for Manchester Utd and Liverpool respectively.

"Irrespective of the outcome and futures of Robbie and Dimitar, we are continuing to seek to bring in quality, talented players for the future, who want to play in a Spurs shirt."

Tapping up :rolleyes:

Keyser Soze
18-07-2008, 20:08
You didn't let me finish. :rolleyes: As I was saying, so United are as guilty as charged.

Burn 'em at the stake tbh.

Jonny2J
18-07-2008, 20:36
Obviously Man Utd can do these things but nobody else can.

wrigh2uk
18-07-2008, 20:39
Obviously Man Utd can do these things but nobody else can.

Hey hey, lets not forget the tap up kings of Barca and Real now :)

Miggy
18-07-2008, 20:40
Hey hey, lets not forget the tap up kings of Barca and Real now :)

:rolleyes:

Jonny2J
18-07-2008, 20:49
Hey hey, lets not forget the tap up kings of Barca and Real now :)Do they appear as hypocritical as Ferguson like?

wrigh2uk
18-07-2008, 20:59
Do they appear as hypocritical as Ferguson like?

Well if they had a manager that stayed around long enough to fall in love with the club maybe so..lol

The Messiah
18-07-2008, 21:00
Hmmm.....



http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_3835579,00.html

Platini said it's okay.

Viperized
18-07-2008, 21:09
http://img.skysports.com/08/07/218x298/KeaneBerbatov_1036869.jpg

lol?

The Messiah
18-07-2008, 21:12
I see nothing Captain Homophobe.

Adammce05
18-07-2008, 22:25
Read a Man United fan complaining about Tottenham doing that because 'we only showed an interest'.

Twat. Their the kind of fans that annoy me, that the Ronald thing is an abomination but for United to do it(again) is perfectly fine.

Fans like that, that make me hate Man United, oh and the glory hunters. More Man United glory hunters than anywhere else.

AgentZero
18-07-2008, 23:04
says he who support celtic but has a liverpool badge on his avatar. But also correct me if im wrong but maybe im just naive but didn't united and liverpool declare their interest and placed formal bids for the players? And since when is being optimistic about a purported transfer bid which has yet to be rejected a crime?

Adammce05
18-07-2008, 23:31
How is that anything to do with your hypocritical bastard of a manager ?.

Says the man united fan called lostgalactico too. Get a grip mate.
Theres no Celtic avatar pre-made and anytime I've made one it dosen't fit with some width rule or size rule so what do you want me to do it ?.

Yeah Liverpool or Arsenal are my second club, like the two of them equally, whats your point ?.

AgentZero
18-07-2008, 23:41
How is that anything to do with your hypocritical bastard of a manager ?.

Says the man united fan called lostgalactico too. Get a grip mate.
Theres no Celtic avatar pre-made and anytime I've made one it dosen't fit with some width rule or size rule so what do you want me to do it ?.

Yeah Liverpool or Arsenal are my second club, like the two of them equally, whats your point ?.
First of all if you were here long enough you would understand the meaning/irony of my username.
Second you come in a club thread calling their fans a bunch of plastic glory hunters (trolling)
so my point is the hypocrisy you have displayed by calling united fans glory hunters when ironically you have also chosed two of the most supported/succesful clubs in the prem.iership

uA - 1905
18-07-2008, 23:54
Same shit, all of them. Today its Tottenham moaning, next day it'll be Chelsea or Liverpool. Bottom line is Tottenham will get over 20 million for Berbatov regardless of all the complaints and shit, and use that money to steal youngsters from all around the world.

Adammce05
19-07-2008, 00:40
First of all if you were here long enough you would understand the meaning/irony of my username.
Second you come in a club thread calling their fans a bunch of plastic glory hunters (trolling)
so my point is the hypocrisy you have displayed by calling united fans glory hunters when ironically you have also chosed two of the most supported/succesful clubs in the prem.iership

Didn't call all of your glory hunters, read what I said.

Read a Man United fan complaining about Tottenham doing that because 'we only showed an interest'.

Twat. Their the kind of fans that annoy me, that the Ronald thing is an abomination but for United to do it(again) is perfectly fine.

Fans like that, that make me hate Man United, oh and the glory hunters. More Man United glory hunters than anywhere else.

At no point did I go ALL MAN U FANZ ARE GLORY HUNTERZ LOLLLLLL.
So get your facts right thanks :).


Oh, and btw, like Liverpool due to the connections between them and the Tic.
Like Arsenal cause my best mate's supported them all his life and obv had influences on me when I was getting into football more and more so yeah I've always liked them, hardly call myself a glory hunter.

Foxhound
19-07-2008, 05:20
Did Sir Alex actually said that he's confident of signing Berbatov? I'm pretty sure that he confirmed that we made a bid on an unnamed player.

I.N Extasy
19-07-2008, 05:30
If we get Berbz, fair enough but I'd rather we go for Huntelaar or Benzema.

Joel, I remembered something, while I do agree with what you said on how our midfield was during the 05-06 season(Nistelrooy, etc.), even now, we aren't really making proper use of Carrick and Scholes' creativity. When in times of trouble(Beatles :p), we usally pass to either Ronaldo or Rooney.

AgentZero
19-07-2008, 08:54
thats a dashing coat pique has.

wrigh2uk
19-07-2008, 09:06
Did Sir Alex actually said that he's confident of signing Berbatov? I'm pretty sure that he confirmed that we made a bid on an unnamed player.



He went on record as saying we have made a bid for Berbatov and were confident of signing him.

Cobinho
19-07-2008, 10:39
I thought its only tapping up if a teams representative actually meet with another clubs player without that other club's permission, like Chelsea did with Ashley Cole. Nothing indicates this has happened with either Keane, Berbatov or Ronaldo with Real Madrid. Although it goes on alot and may have in one of these cases.

Its not against the rules to use the media the way these clubs have to unsettle a player, thats the nature of the game now, just a shame how Man Utd are such hypocrites.

wrathchild_uk
19-07-2008, 10:46
Did Sir Alex actually said that he's confident of signing Berbatov? I'm pretty sure that he confirmed that we made a bid on an unnamed player.

Well it was in the Sun paper that Fergie had mentioned Berbatov so there probably just talking shit...

Ziss
19-07-2008, 10:48
Just found this :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MJ_1yJFaAo&feature=related

Top Gun
19-07-2008, 23:10
Spurs are basing their accusations on a piece from The Sun, which says it was an exclusive from Ferguson. Since when the fuck did he give exclusives to any newspapers, let alone The Sun.

Tubes is God
19-07-2008, 23:20
Just found this :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MJ_1yJFaAo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0FkNEsrNME&feature=related

AgentZero
20-07-2008, 22:20
the slave cabana boy has been given a reprieve from toiling in the intense heat of the (tony) cotton fields at carrington.
[URL=http://imageshack.us]http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3839/article002013a210000057jp9.jpg

*Oompa loomp dompedi dooo...i have another riddle for you..
'im not sure where i will play next year....not everything is up to me'

Miggy
20-07-2008, 22:25
The shadow on his arm looked like a tattoo when I first looked.

AgentZero
20-07-2008, 22:27
if you squint ronaldo turns into nani. I think he is even darker than our cape verde main man.

Cannon ball
20-07-2008, 23:12
the slave cabana boy has been given a reprieve from toiling in the intense heat of the (tony) cotton fields at carrington.
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3839/article002013a210000057jp9.jpg

*Oompa loomp dompedi dooo...i have another riddle for you..
'im not sure where i will play next year....not everything is up to me'

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wrigh2uk
21-07-2008, 15:57
Bad bit of news about Wes Brown's sister passing away.

Gotta feel for the guy

Top Gun
22-07-2008, 03:18
He lost his dad a few months back too. Feel sorry for the guy.

I'm looking forwards to seeing Tevez this season, if he can get a full pre-season under his belt before we start the Premiership this year, I think we could see some real special things from him. Not that he wasn't great last year but I just felt he had more to offer. I'm hoping to see more of Nani and Anderson, especially Anderson who looks like a real special talent.

I.N Extasy
22-07-2008, 05:46
For his first game against Sunderland, Anderson was played as a support striker with Saha; I think now that he has adapted himself, he'll be given more creative freedom. He was dubbed the new Ronaldinho. :S

Does anyone think so?

AgentZero
22-07-2008, 06:31
nope, he and ridrigo plays like european centrebacks oppose to sudamericano playmakers. More emerson than Ronaldinho.

Top Gun
24-07-2008, 14:07
Only two more years of Scholes. :(

Hunter
24-07-2008, 14:23
Only two more years of Scholes. :(

Not bad considering he's 33. We all expected it to come sooner rather than later, it just seems so strange watching Scholes break into the United team as a young gun and then him retiring. It seems quite sad really, especially considering he has never had the amazing plaudits other Englishmen have had such as being branded "world class".

ads
24-07-2008, 14:24
He's had a fucking cracking career though, fantastic player.

Cannon ball
24-07-2008, 15:52
Only two more years of Scholes. :(

I have alot of respect for Scholes. Real old fashioned model pro, all about the football, and not a "celebrity" as alot are becoming.

Jonny2J
25-07-2008, 22:42
Brfs4N59fKg

Fresh one from me folks that you may all like.

AgentZero
25-07-2008, 22:51
brilliant mate loved it, we had some really mediocre keepers in between him and edwin. I hope these ones touted as successors can do a better job than barthez and co.

Foxhound
26-07-2008, 08:03
I really enjoyed reading the article about Scholes. Loved his attitude.

I.N Extasy
26-07-2008, 08:13
Excellent video of an excellent keeper. Top knotch, as always, Jonny. Keep up the good work.

brilliant mate loved it, we had some really mediocre keepers in between him and edwin. I hope these ones touted as successors can do a better job than barthez and co.

Barthez was seen as a mediocre keeper for United because he was a totally different keeper than Schmeichel. Peter was/is a born leader. He was acting like a defender as well as being the goalie. Not only that, he was launching our attacks with his near-perfect goal-kicks.

Unlike the Dane, Fabien was/is one who needs to have his defenders with him at the back. Despite being a good enough goalie, his main attribute/strength was to be able to control his defensive line.

Bottom line is, Barthez was said to have been poor for us, simply because he was/is not a player like Schmeichel is. It took us quite a while to transition from that style of play.(@ the style we used to play when Pete was here)

Edit: I'll be reading the article on Scholes shortly.

Top Gun
26-07-2008, 15:02
PM me for a stream of the KC's game, Possebon is looking quite good.

Decent strike from Giggs, Danny Simpson and Lee Martin have been our best players so far. Possebon looked good for a 10 minute spell but went missing later on in the half as did Carrick.