Manchester United [Archive] - Page 68

Lord Shrimpeh

13-09-2008, 14:46

Well that was probably the worse second half I've seen from United in a long time. There was absolutely no fight, no ideas and no skill on show. I hope SAF wheels out the hairdryer and gives them a right good bollocking. Seems like Liverpool just had more desire and we were too lazy and complacent. They deserved to win.

I'd have thought we would have kicked on after the goal but we just seemed to sit back and say, fuck it we've done our job. You certainly don't do your job after 3 minutes at Anfield.

Joel

13-09-2008, 14:52

The Vidic red card made me very happy, as it means that he will be suspended for the game next week at the Bridge.

Wouldn't mind to see you play Rooney on the right next week as well.

Foxhound

13-09-2008, 14:55

Gutted with the result. Van der Sar & Scholes were very poor. Both goals could've been avoided if it wasn't for the stupid mistakes. We didn't have any width at all! One of the 3 strikers should've been in the bench today.

I'd play Wes on the centre with Hargreaves at right back for the Chelsea match.

AgentZero

13-09-2008, 15:09

the match? big fuck off...so poor in the middle of the park

Foxhound

13-09-2008, 15:12

Fletcher should've came on for Carrick.

AgentZero

13-09-2008, 15:14

Hargreaves wa sput on far too late, should of been a like for like switch for mickey.

Foxhound

13-09-2008, 15:16

Van der Sar needs to sort himself. That's twice now he costs us a goal.

Phatmann

13-09-2008, 15:36

The Vidic red card made me very happy, as it means that he will be suspended for the game next week at the Bridge.

Wouldn't mind to see you play Rooney on the right next week as well.
Aye, we're gonna be in trouble if Rooney plays on the right against you lot. I guess Tevez would probably do a better job in that position but I'd prefer him to be playing in a more central role.

Ferdinand was the only player who I thought had a decent game today; Scholes looked miles off the pace and Van Der Sar and Giggs made silly mistakes. Got a lot of bad luck today - I thought the Vidic sending off was harsh - but considering the luck we've had against Liverpool in the past, I can hardly complain too much.

I.N Extasy

13-09-2008, 16:31

Meyyappan

13-09-2008, 17:30

Liverpool have quite clearly shown their supremacy today. After all, they've won it five times. :<

I think we'll get on our usual winning streak later on. Our starts to the season haven't always been excellent, have they?

All top four teams do,but if you manage to block an explosive start its what wins the league nowadays e.g chelsea.

I mean 3-4 four slip ups-u already have done twice chances are high you do again.

Hunter

13-09-2008, 17:35

We had just a poor start to the season last year, and every year in fact, yet we still won the Double. Keep talking.

Foxhound

13-09-2008, 17:41

We had just a poor start to the season last year, and every year in fact, yet we still won the Double. Keep talking.

If I remember correctly, we had 4 wins out of 4 in the 2006/2007 season. That season, we had a great start, winning 5-1 against Fulham.

I.N Extasy

13-09-2008, 17:47

If I remember correctly, we had 4 wins out of 4 in the 2006/2007 season. That season, we had a great start, winning 5-1 against Fulham.

Right. But usually, our season starts are pretty shite.:mellow:

Rambo

13-09-2008, 18:14

All top four teams do,but if you manage to block an explosive start its what wins the league nowadays e.g chelsea.

I guess you missed us winning the league last season? Where we also had a poor start.

I.N Extasy

13-09-2008, 18:27

Actually, it's the way you end your season which is more crucial. ;)

Dan

13-09-2008, 18:32

I'd be more worried about how you're going to fit all these attacking players into the team myself.

When Ronaldo comes back, does Rooney go to the left, or do you go back to 4-4-2 or what? Let's hope if fucks up your season. :D

Sho

13-09-2008, 18:46

Where was Berbatov today?

Hunter

13-09-2008, 19:56

If I remember correctly, we had 4 wins out of 4 in the 2006/2007 season. That season, we had a great start, winning 5-1 against Fulham.

I didn't mean the first 4 games specifically, but in general the "start" to the season, which could probably be classed as the first 10 games.

Joel

13-09-2008, 20:02

After 3 games last season, you only had 2 points, this season you have 4, so it is actually a better start, than your double winning season.

But we also were poor in the first 10 games or even more last season. We seem to be considerably better this season though, and last season you only beat us by 2 points.

It is still very early in the season, but don't think that everything will go your way as it did last season. Teams are a lot stronger now and they are some better managers as well.

freestyleh7

13-09-2008, 20:09

Where was Berbatov today?

Having a sleep. ;)

AgentZero

14-09-2008, 01:04

Where was Berbatov today?
see the assist twat?

Phil W.A.F.C

14-09-2008, 01:13

see the assist twat?

Very good point there Galactico, got me points in my fantasy team for that assist.

AgentZero

14-09-2008, 01:26

yeah 5 points for losing aint bad is it? I too have him in my squad, previously filled by nando.

Phil W.A.F.C

14-09-2008, 01:33

yeah 5 points for losing aint bad is it? I too have him in my squad, previously filled by nando.

You've dont the exact same switch as me Nando out Dimi in. I didnt catch the game hadso havnt seen anything of it. Was gutted.

AgentZero

14-09-2008, 01:41

I just cant wait to see him get going, there was a few class first touches on display. Just needs to find his passing/finishing boots.
Slightly concerned when he was receiving treatment on his knee.

Phil W.A.F.C

14-09-2008, 01:46

I just cant wait to see him get going, there was a few class first touches on display. Just needs to find his passing/finishing boots.
Slightly concerned when he was receiving treatment on his knee.

Thats all you need to say to me to make me think of Berbatovs first touch, he makes me foam in the mouth :mellow:

Foxhound

14-09-2008, 04:22

Phew, Carrick's injury was not serious.

Hunter

14-09-2008, 13:33

Fancy telling us how minor it was then ? ;)

I haven't a clue since I've been busy, I just read about Fergie being furious with the team though on the BBC website.

Foxhound

14-09-2008, 13:47

Michael Carrick is likely to miss Wednesday's Champions League clash with Villarreal after injuring his right ankle at Anfield.

The midfielder was hurt in a tackle with Yossi Benayoun in the first half of the 2-1 defeat to Liverpool and was substituted at half-time. He reappeared in the United dug-out after the break on crutches and with his right foot in a cast.

Sir Alex confirmed that nothing is broken, but said further assessments on the player's ankle would continue over the weekend.

"It’s not serious. We’ve had an X-ray and nothing is broken," the manager told MUTV.

"There was a hard tackle on him and we’ll probably have a better assessment over the weekend, but I don’t think he’ll be ready for Wednesday."

United are already without the suspended Paul Scholes for the Group E opener against the Spaniards, but Cristiano Ronaldo may feature after making a quicker-than-expected recovery from ankle surgery.

From manutd.com

wrathchild_uk

14-09-2008, 15:53

I think our line up was to attacking yesterday...we did it against Zenit aswell playing Scholes and Anderson in the middle, its like when Carrick came off we replaced him with Giggs. We need some kind of defensive midfielder in there, you can't go to places like Liverpool and play all attacking players in the middle...

Ziss

14-09-2008, 18:10

The Vidic red card made me very happy, as it means that he will be suspended for the game next week at the Bridge.
Does that mean Terry will be missing too?

I didn't think we could play worse than we did against Zenit, but I was sadly wrong.

Rooney on the right was an awful decision, as he had no influence on the game whatsoever.

Joel

14-09-2008, 18:32

Does that mean Terry will be missing too?

Yes. We are appealling the red card though and I think there is a good chance that it will be downgraded to a yellow card.

If the red card stands, then the FA is a joke.

AgentZero

14-09-2008, 23:54

nah itll be brilliant both teams without their solid cbs.

Ziss

15-09-2008, 10:17

nah itll be brilliant both teams without their solid cbs.
But Carvalho and Ferdinand WILL be playing?

AgentZero

15-09-2008, 11:13

haha fairplay, vidas was such a yahoo that it annoyed me at times.

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 14:05

Kuszczak extends United stay

http://img.skysports.com/08/09/800x600/kuszczaktomasz_1199105.jpg

Manchester United goalkeeper Tomasz Kuszczak has agreed a two-year extension to his contract.

Kuszczak initially moved to Old Trafford on loan from West Brom in 2006 before making the switch permanent last summer.

He proved a reliable deputy for Edwin van der Sar and impressed sufficiently to earn a new deal that ties him to the club until 2012.

The 26-year-old Poland international has made no secret of his desire to become Sir Alex Ferguson's first-choice keeper, although he has had to settle for a place on the substitute's bench so far this season.

He is delighted to have been handed an extension but has vowed to continue to progress over the coming years.
Support

"For the club to offer me an extension when I still have two years left shows the trust and support that I have from the club and Sir Alex Ferguson," said Kuszczak.

"I am so happy as I have had a great time so far but there is still so much to prove and I want to continue working hard to ensure my position within this great team."

Ferguson added that he was thrilled to have secured the future of a player he rates highly.

The United boss said: "We always like to sit down with all our young players as we want to look ahead and protect our future.

"Top goalkeepers are hard to find and I believe we have three of the best here and by securing Tomasz's future we can consolidate ours."

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Looks like Ronaldo will play a part on Tuesday against Villarreal.

ads

15-09-2008, 14:08

Good news about Kuszczak, especially with VDS looking more and more like a liability with age.

Phatmann

15-09-2008, 14:13

Good news about Kuszczak, especially with VDS looking more and more like a liability with age.
To be honest, if Ben Foster was fit I'd have him ahead of Kuszczak but I guess Van Der Sars age and Foster being injury prone makes Kuszcak a vital part of our squad. I don't have any confidence when he starts in goal for us though.:(

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 14:15

It is good news as this is VDS last season and we have Foster who seems to be the most likely to replace him but he always seem to be injured, so to have 2 fairly young talented keepers is good.

ads

15-09-2008, 14:17

To be honest, if Ben Foster was fit I'd have him ahead of Kuszczak but I guess Van Der Sars age and Foster being injury prone makes Kuszcak a vital part of our squad. I don't have any confidence when he starts in goal for us though.:(

Surely after Saturdays showing though Van der Sar doesn't exactly fill you with confidence either?

I do think United should invest in a new 'keeper in Jaunary or next summer as a first choice.

Van der Sar should have retired after the CL win imo.

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 14:21

We, like every big club in Europe, are constantly linked with Guillermo Ochoa

Foxhound

15-09-2008, 14:22

I have no problem if Kuszczak becomes our future no.1

Did Foster get another injury?

Haribo

15-09-2008, 14:26

I have no problem if Kuszczak becomes our future no.1

:no:

I really hope Foster gets an injury free period in the coming months as I have no doubt he'd become our no. 1 in that time. Without the injuries he's had he would be our first choice now anyway. =(

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 14:28

Has Manucho come back to us as i just noticed he has a squad number when i was looking at buying the blue shirt

Phatmann

15-09-2008, 14:29

Surely after Saturdays showing though Van der Sar doesn't exactly fill you with confidence either?

I do think United should invest in a new 'keeper in Jaunary or next summer as a first choice.

Van der Sar should have retired after the CL win imo.
I still have confidence in VDS. It was a huge error but the guy still pulls out top class saves and his kicking with both feet and his positioning - usually - are both excellent. I know that VDS has the ability to play well against the big teams, which I don't think is the case with Kuszczak. I would not be happy with Kuszczak as our number 1 keeper.

Foxhound

15-09-2008, 14:31

:no:

I really hope Foster gets an injury free period in the coming months as I have no doubt he'd become our no. 1 in that time. Without the injuries he's had he would be our first choice now anyway. =(
He looks decent when called upon.
I do hope to see Foster having a run in the starting lineup sometime this season.
Has Manucho come back to us as i just noticed he has a squad number when i was looking at buying the blue shirt

yeah, but I think he's injured at the moment.

Joel

15-09-2008, 15:09

He looks decent when called upon.

Teams aiming to win titles, needs more than just a "decent" goalkeeper.

I.N Extasy

15-09-2008, 15:30

I believe Kuszczak, has a pretty good response but his distribution is shite, he can't the grab the ball and his one on ones with the opposing player are not properly timed.

I agree with what you said, Joel.

I'm not keen on gambling the whole thing on neither Foster nor Kuszczak, but time will tell. Ferguson is rather unpredictable at times. :\

wrigh2uk

15-09-2008, 16:10

Teams aiming to win titles, needs more than just a "decent" goalkeeper.

Our Keeper comes to mind when I read that :( (Almunia)

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 16:14

This Rodrigo Possebon look very good indeed.

9yY11HLZqTU

wrathchild_uk

15-09-2008, 16:35

I'm not sure about Kuszczak as first choice..i mean he seems to concede a pen almost everytime he plays and aint the best from crosses and corners. Its strange with Van der sar its like as if sometimes he's only just joined us and has still yet to get know his defence...

ads

15-09-2008, 16:37

This Rodrigo Possebon look very good indeed.

9yY11HLZqTU

I don't like his last name :shifty:

I.N Extasy

15-09-2008, 16:41

I don't like his last name :shifty:
:erm:
Pas assez bon? :huh:

He looks like a mini-Scholes to me.

mufcsean

15-09-2008, 16:46

:doh:

Predictions for Wednesday people, i hope we win, obviously, but after saturdays dismal performance i just do not feel confident at all.

Hunter

15-09-2008, 17:29

I'd feel more confident that we'll win after Saturdays performance. I've no doubt Fergie will have absolutely bollocked them after the game against Liverpool, so I can only see the United team being more up for it than ever.

AgentZero

15-09-2008, 23:40

This Rodrigo Possebon look very good indeed.

9yY11HLZqTU

i know,i harped about him all summer and my mates think i was delusional, to them they prefer if we had gone in for Leiva...

@I.N Extasy: hes much larger than scholes mind...:ninja:

Foxhound

16-09-2008, 11:50

How reliable is the Dailymail? They are reporting that Evra will miss tomorrow's game with concussion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1056462/Knock-blow-Manchester-United-concussion-rules-Patrice-Evra-Villarreal-match.html

CaptainCabinet

16-09-2008, 11:55

Hunter

16-09-2008, 11:56

Not sure but he looked almost out of it when he was taking that throw in against Liverpool. Think the linesman stopped the game temporarily as he was dizzy or something, so it seems very possible. Better safe than sorry mind, can't see Fergie wanting Evra to head the ball with a concussion. Now that we don't have Silvestre mind, things may get a bit difficult, I assume we'll just slot O'Shea into that LB spot.

AgentZero

16-09-2008, 12:07

where he belongs. I remember being impressed with a young john oshea playing on the left.

Ziss

16-09-2008, 13:35

I assume we'll just slot O'Shea into that LB spot.
Just?
This is a round peg we're trying to fit a squared gay Irishman into here.

Who's the 4th team in our group, again?

mufcsean

16-09-2008, 13:36

United
Villarreal
Celtic
Aalborg

AgentZero

16-09-2008, 13:47

AIG in Credit Crisis!!!!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122156561931242905.html?mod= googlenews_wsj

hmmm doesnt look peachy for AIG, we could possibly see new sponsors by next year.

mufcsean

16-09-2008, 13:59

That Wont affect us in any way shape or form, we could find another huge sonsor in the next five minutes if needed.

I personally wouldn't mind a sponsor with a small logo.

wrathchild_uk

16-09-2008, 14:27

Apparently Manucho is now fit after his injury so may be on the bench for the game against Villarreal.

On the sponser front i wouldn't be suprised if we ended up with Bud!

Foxhound

16-09-2008, 14:30

Sky are reporting that Carrick is out for 4-6 weeks.

:no:

Hunter

16-09-2008, 15:04

BBC are reporting that Carrick is out for around 6 weeks with a broken bone in his foot. Never a good thing to be honest.

mufcsean

17-09-2008, 00:48

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4154042,00.html

Fuck sake

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4154555,00.html

Me too, Carlos, me too, definitely our best signing in recent years, he never stops.

Foxhound

17-09-2008, 03:58

I thought it's £20 million? £10 already been paid for his wages.

Gutted that Carrick is out. Hopefully Fletcher will retain his good form.

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 09:46

gutted mickey is gone, hopefully this will make rodrigo come into the fold a bit more. Id love for him to have a crack and find his feet.

Ziss

17-09-2008, 11:21

I almost gave myself a heart attack just now, thinking that O'Shea would have to fill in for Vidic, then I clicked that Brown would, and we'd play someone at right back (doesn't matter who, as they'll only have to defend against Malouda :tongue:).

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 11:25

ideally a good time for Nev to return but my mind say its going to be Fletcher or Hargreaves

Joel

17-09-2008, 12:25

I hope you play Neville at right back, rather than Hargreaves. Last season, Hargreaves was pretty awesome when he played there. He got up and down regularly and whipped a great cross in. Of course he does not compare to Bosingwa (:smug:), but he looked very comfortable there.

Ziss

17-09-2008, 12:57

I completely forgot about Hargreaves! Just assumed he would play in the middle (if he avoids slipping on a cotton bud and injuring himself).

Please no Neville at right back. Was awful against Zenit. Needs a couple of home bankers to get him ready before we throw him into a big one.

So, Ronnie to make an appearance tonight? I'm looking forward to seeing Rossi back at OT!

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 13:00

i can see ronnie playing 70 minutes or for the final 20. Yeah seeing giuseppe back would be good, see what we threw away and misse dout on, shame Diego isnt at Villareal still.

Foxhound

17-09-2008, 13:15

What's the latest on Berbatov?

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6618488
That was yesterday's -- saying Berbatov is a doubt for tonight's game.

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 13:17

he sat out training.

Poontang Pie

17-09-2008, 13:31

Ziss and LostGalactico, Giuseppe Rossi will not be playing tonight. He has an injury, as does Nihat. A familiar face in Robert Pirès will play though.

van der Sar
Brown Vidić Ferdinand [c] Evra
Fletcher Hargreaves Anderson
Rooney Tévez Nani

The above is how I would expect your lot to line up.

mufcsean

17-09-2008, 13:54

van der Sar
Brown Vidić Ferdinand [c] Evra
Fletcher Hargreaves Anderson
Rooney Tévez Nani

Is how i see it also.

I hope Hargreaves plays at right back

wrathchild_uk

17-09-2008, 15:18

Will be interesting to see if Manucho actually makes the bench although even if he does i doubt he'll come on.

I hope you play Neville at right back, rather than Hargreaves.

I don't as he was shocking against Zenit :no:

mufcsean

17-09-2008, 15:26

That's why Joel (a Chelsea fan) wants him to play

wrathchild_uk

17-09-2008, 16:05

I kno and as a Utd fan i'm saying i hope he doesnt.

Phil W.A.F.C

17-09-2008, 18:31

I agree wi' what Fergie's said. If it would of been United it wouldn't of been overturned plus it was more like he was playing rugby union/league.

Joel

17-09-2008, 18:35

I agree wi' what Fergie's said. If it would of been United it wouldn't of been overturned plus it was more like he was playing rugby union/league.

Bollocks.

Adammce05

17-09-2008, 18:37

I agree wi' what Fergie's said. If it would of been United it wouldn't of been overturned plus it was more like he was playing rugby union/league.

Sorry are you a closet United fan ? Your always right up their arses.

It would be cause that old bastard wouldn't stop whining until they got it overturned.

Berry

17-09-2008, 18:42

LINK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7621304.stm)

1836: Getting a whisper of some big team news afoot at Old Trafford - rumour has it that Manchester United have dropped goalkeeper Edwin van der Sar and Cristiano Ronaldo will start against Villarreal. Blimey.

Phil W.A.F.C

17-09-2008, 18:43

Sorry are you a closet United fan ? Your always right up their arses.

It would be cause that old bastard wouldn't stop whining until they got it overturned.

No mate far from a closet, just agree wi what he said, if it was Benitez in your case then i would be on the Liverpool thread saying the same.

CaptainCabinet

17-09-2008, 18:55

No mate far from a closet, just agree wi what he said, if it was Benitez in your case then i would be on the Liverpool thread saying the same.

Just a normal Man Utd fan then?

Hunter

17-09-2008, 19:06

Wasn't it a Wigan player that Terry committed the foul on ? If so, then that's obviously the reason.

Score predictions for tonights game then lads ? I said 3-1 earlier but that was when I thought Rossi would be playing (he was my scorer ;)) Now I'm tempted to just say 2-0 for us, with Tevez scoring, and possibly Ronnie on his comeback.

Phil W.A.F.C

17-09-2008, 19:10

Just a normal Man Utd fan then?

Yeah with my United avater and the rest :unsure:. As for Hunter no, was against City on Jo.

Haribo

17-09-2008, 19:13

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 19:30

Sorry are you a closet United fan ? Your always right up their arses.

It would be cause that old bastard wouldn't stop whining until they got it overturned.
we love phil, leave him alone...:wave:

AgentZero

17-09-2008, 19:36

Evans and Ferdinand?! No Brown?!

mufcsean

18-09-2008, 00:18

Neville was shite, should have come off after the first 20 minutes, hope he doesn't play Sunday as even Malouda could take the piss out of him the way hes playing.

AgentZero

18-09-2008, 00:32

needs to sort those crosses out. Evans looked good, couldve scored on 2 ocassions.

Hunter

18-09-2008, 00:40

Still can't believe how much Park was kicked off the pitch tonight, not to have 1 of the 2 penalties was a bit ridiculous too. We didn't play great and often overelaborated but we definetely deserved 3 points from the game. Simply frustrating.

Foxhound

18-09-2008, 03:59

At least the team's performance is a lot better.

AgentZero

18-09-2008, 07:32

whats kinda disconcerning is that they all lifted when ronaldo played. So his presence alone can lift the performances.

Berry

18-09-2008, 07:34

Did he play good? How was the fan's reception for him, any boo's??

AgentZero

18-09-2008, 09:40

it was full of applause..if there was any boos it was inaudible.

I.N Extasy

18-09-2008, 10:43

Ronaldo looked pretty sharp, considering the amount of time he's been away.

Still can't believe how much Park was kicked off the pitch tonight, not to have 1 of the 2 penalties was a bit ridiculous too. We didn't play great and often overelaborated but we definetely deserved 3 points from the game. Simply frustrating.
.

I still have faith in Neville.

Meyyappan

18-09-2008, 11:43

Ronaldo looked pretty sharp, considering the amount of time he's been away.

.

I still have faith in Neville.

Me too.

Ziss

18-09-2008, 18:54

I do too, if we're talking about Phil.

Foxhound

19-09-2008, 07:46

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7624372.stm

Manchester United keeper Ben Foster has suffered a fresh injury blow, injuring his ankle in a reserve team game.

Foster, who missed most of last season following cruciate ligament surgery, limped off in the second-half of United's 0-0 draw with Blackburn.

The 25-year-old England international also missed the start of the current campaign with a knee injury.

Foster had been tipped to challenge United number one Edwin Van der Sar who has had a shaky start to the season.

Van der Sar made at a crucial error in United's 2-1 defeat to Liverpool last week.

The former Dutch international was also at fault for Newcastle's goal on the opening game of the season.

somegooner

19-09-2008, 10:46

mufcsean

19-09-2008, 12:15

God damn it, this is the worst possible time for him personally to get injured, van der Sar has been a bit iffy lately and this could have been his chance to get in the starting 11

Foxhound

19-09-2008, 13:19

I was looking forward for the possibility of him playing against 'Boro in the league cup.

Haribo

21-09-2008, 13:41

Brown on the bench? :mellow:

The Messiah

21-09-2008, 13:47

That's just just crazy enough to work.

mufcsean

21-09-2008, 13:48

Neville starting, ffs, i'm just glad Drogba is on the bench because he will batter Evans all over the pitch. Glad Ballack is on the bench aswell.

Haribo

21-09-2008, 14:03

Glad Ballack is on the bench aswell.

:doh:

EDIT: Mike Riley is terrible.

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 14:54

berbs need to desperately not be lazy to work with this team.

The Messiah

21-09-2008, 14:57

He was a bit Patrick Swayze for Parks other chance.

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 15:01

mind you he made the flick to give rooney space and shoudl have finished tha a klot better.

Haribo

21-09-2008, 15:04

When Chelsea inevitably bring on Drogba, we need to counter it with Ronaldo and/or Tevez. I'm extremely worried about how Evans would do against Drogba, and Kusz-cack in general.

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 15:06

Kusczak has been quite reliable thus far. Loved that reflex save against malouda
Best keeper imo..im embarassed of edwins shenanigans.

The Messiah

21-09-2008, 15:16

Ronaldo is looking cut. :wub:

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 16:01

ffs riley wrecked the game IMO.

wrathchild_uk

21-09-2008, 16:04

A new keeper in order?

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 16:06

even though kusczak was at fault for not handling the delivery. Hes not bad IMO...edwins getting a bti senile in his old age.

Ziss

21-09-2008, 16:12

Tomas is only decent as a shot stopper, as the goal we conceeded shows.

How we had 7 players booked is beyond me? Joe Cole not getting booked for his foul on Rio, shows how shit the ref was.

Although I guess a draw isn't that bad, considering Keyser thought we'd get hammered.

Haribo

21-09-2008, 16:17

Ronaldo coming on for Scholes screwed up the formation. He should have replaced Berbatov, then maybe O'Shea for Scholes.

Foxhound

21-09-2008, 16:17

Ref was shit. Evra and Ronaldo should have never been booked.

What happened to Rio? He looked pissed at the end. Did he get a red card?

wrathchild_uk

21-09-2008, 16:36

No i think he thought the ref had awarded chelsea a freekick on the edge of the box..

mufcsean

21-09-2008, 16:41

1-1 at the Bridge isn't a bad result but i must say i'm dissapointed.

Foxhound

21-09-2008, 16:43

After leading for a long time, I'm disappointed with the goal conceded. I thought today was going to be the day that Chelsea's unbeaten home record ends.

Rambo

21-09-2008, 16:50

I would've been happy with a point before the game but i'm disappointed in the manner we condeded the goal. Kusczak probably should've done better and Ferdinand blatantly got pushed in the back.

Cannon ball

21-09-2008, 17:40

Ronaldo's dive was amazing.

Meyyappan

21-09-2008, 18:08

I do too, if we're talking about Phil.

Me too.

Keyser Soze

21-09-2008, 18:14

Not a bad result for either team I guess, but with the amount of chances and possession we had, I'm (a bit) dissapointed we didn't come away with more. Good to see our home record is still intact though! Good game.

Oh and lol @ Ronaldo. He is, quite literally, scared of Ashley Cole.Tomas is only decent as a shot stopper, as the goal we conceeded shows.

How we had 7 players booked is beyond me? Joe Cole not getting booked for his foul on Rio, shows how shit the ref was.

Although I guess a draw isn't that bad, considering Keyser thought we'd get hammered.
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freestyleh7

21-09-2008, 18:28

Scholes and ferdinand deserved red cards, but no because they are manchester united players.

DanDaMan91

21-09-2008, 18:30

Mike Riley was shocking.... Conference South for him.

I think a draw was fair. Ronaldo should have been given a red for his terrible dive. Fucking pathetic.

mufcsean

21-09-2008, 18:31

Freestyleh, stopit, please.

Boro on Tuesday, shall be entertaining to how the team looks

freestyleh7

21-09-2008, 18:32

Mike riley is wayyy to soft.

DanDaMan91

21-09-2008, 18:36

I know its bad mind, but I think Ronaldo need a Eduardo/Cisse injury to sort him out.

If he can bang in 40+ goals but still feels needs to dive.... then theres no hope.

Cannon ball

21-09-2008, 19:07

I know its bad mind, but I think Ronaldo need a Eduardo/Cisse injury to sort him out.

If he can bang in 40+ goals but still feels needs to dive.... then theres no hope.

Being nutmegged and skinned by talentless defenders would be suitable punishment.

Top Gun

21-09-2008, 19:24

Too many wasted chances today, Rooney and Rio should have both scored. Berbatov and Rooney showed glimpses of a partnership but these were fleeting and Berbatov was nowhere in the second half. It was a decent performance though. Evra has been our best player so far this season and Hargreaves looked pretty good today. I thought Evans did pretty well considering he has little experience of this sort of game.

Ziss

21-09-2008, 19:44

Oh and lol @ Ronaldo. He is, quite literally, scared of Ashley Cole.

You would be too, if you were being marked by a gay that can get away with reckless challenges.

?

I recall you saying Chelsea would batter us, possibly a few weeks ago. To be honest, with the form we both had going into it I expected it. Should have killed you off first half, but oh well. Just wait until Stoke visit the Bridge, then your record will go :)

wrathchild_uk

21-09-2008, 20:19

Scholes and ferdinand deserved red cards, but no because they are manchester united players.

Scholes gets sent off all the time for us...what are you on about??

Joel

21-09-2008, 20:48

You would be too, if you were being marked by a gay that can get away with reckless challenges.

Nah, I just feel Ronaldo is afraid of the pocket. I hear he is claustrophobic.

I must admit that I was very pleased when your 3 subs were used and Carlos Tevez was still on the bench. Out of all your players, he's the one who I fear in an attcking sense.

freestyleh7

21-09-2008, 21:52

Scholes gets sent off all the time for us...what are you on about??

He should have been sent off again today.

Haribo

21-09-2008, 21:56

He should have been sent off again today.

For 2 fouls that barely warranted a free kick, and in no way yellow card offences? Go figure.

Berry

21-09-2008, 21:57

And when he was face to face with Ballack and Schloesy flicked the ball away :chanlaugh:

Keyser Soze

21-09-2008, 22:08

For 2 fouls that barely warranted a free kick, and in no way yellow card offences? Go figure.
Behave. Definitely should have been booked.

Sho

21-09-2008, 22:20

I really wanna see Man U's 30 Mill striker get some goals.

mufcsean

21-09-2008, 22:22

why, your a gunner arent you?

Sho

21-09-2008, 22:28

Yes.

But i wanna see what he can for you lots after all you've spent 30 mill on him.

50!

21-09-2008, 23:33

Surprised this didn't make 2Good2Bad but...

http://i37.tinypic.com/2r3w67n.jpg

mufcsean

21-09-2008, 23:35

:chanlaugh:

AgentZero

21-09-2008, 23:43

ahhh so thats what tyler and gray was goin on about i thought a fan popped one in his ear whilst walkin to/fro the dressing rooms

CDDRodrigo

21-09-2008, 23:51

Haha! Nice gif!

Dragonfly

22-09-2008, 00:12

:chanlaugh:

Sho

22-09-2008, 00:37

:lol:

Meyyappan

22-09-2008, 19:01

Its surprising the man united fans are not discussing the magnificient dive C.Ronaldo pulled off.

The Messiah

22-09-2008, 19:04

It was okay not as good as Robert Pires'.

CaptainCabinet

22-09-2008, 19:05

it Was Okay Not As Good As Robert Pires'.

<3

freestyleh7

22-09-2008, 20:15

JmP6PpWNwOE

Phatmann

22-09-2008, 20:17

[youtube]JmP6PpWNwOE[youtube/]

:lol:

Stick the / in front of youtube.

freestyleh7

22-09-2008, 20:17

:lol:

Fixed It. :happy:

Top Gun

23-09-2008, 10:12

Here's the squad for the Boro' game;

Kuszczak, Amos, Neville, Brown, R Da Silva, O'Shea, Evans, Gray, Chester, Eckersley, Hargreaves, Ronaldo, Anderson, Nani, Gibson, Hewson, Possebon, Cleverley, Welbeck, Manucho.

Fergie said Ronaldo, Anderson and Hargreaves will most likely start as they need the match fitness. Jonny Evans, Darron Gibson, Danny Welbeck and Rafael are also expected to start and I would love to see Manucho in action finally.

Foxhound

23-09-2008, 11:29

No Fabio? I was looking forward seeing the twins playing.

Baddar

23-09-2008, 11:35

No Fabio? I was looking forward seeing the twins playing.

Apparently, Fabio has a shoulder injury and it requires an operation.

I'm not sure how recent that squad list for tonight's game is, but I read on BBC yesterday that both Fabio and Manucho would be missing due to injury.

wrathchild_uk

23-09-2008, 12:57

Sky sports news also said Manucho would be missing as he's yet to recover from his injury..

edit: just read this on the eurosport website.

although there is confusion over the availability of striker Manucho, who was due to make his debut.

In his programme notes, which were written last week, Sir Alex Ferguson suggested the Angolan would miss out due to a foot injury.

However, Ferguson's assistant Mike Phelan claimed Manucho would be in a 20-man squad for the cup tie.

There will also be the usual scattering of youngsters, although young Brazilian Fabio Da Silva misses out, having been forced to undergo a shoulder operation.

mufcsean

23-09-2008, 16:00

Heard on Radio 1 this morning that Ronaldo is going to start

mufcsean

23-09-2008, 20:27

--------------------Amos--------------------
----Rafael----Brown------Vidic------O Shea
Nani-----Anderson-------Possebon ---Giggs
------------Welbeck-----Ronaldo------------

Not a bad team, should win tonight, i'll go for 2-0 to us

EDIT: 1-0 to us Ronaldo with a great header

AgentZero

23-09-2008, 20:53

rafael has been a breath of fresh air, he and wellbeck has performed allright. Need ronaldo to pair with i reckon.

Sho

23-09-2008, 21:28

Heard on Radio 1 this morning that Ronaldo is going to start
And he scored.

Phil W.A.F.C

23-09-2008, 21:35

Fucking awfull tackle by Pogatetz on Possebon. Fracture or something bad there to his leg along with that cut on his shin. No need for them sort of tackles at any level.

Appswah

23-09-2008, 21:40

terrible tackle..

AgentZero

23-09-2008, 21:59

very clumsy by pogatetz, hope he burns in hell. I have the feeling (maybe its because hes back from injury) that ronaldo at times can not be bothered anymore.

Ziss

23-09-2008, 22:04

Anyone got a link to the tackle, and the goals actually?

Not surprised Pogatetz being a dirty cunt to be honest, it's not the first time.

mufcsean

23-09-2008, 22:48

I missed the second half as i had company, how did Possebon play in the second half before cming off, i thought he was very lively in the first half

Top Gun

23-09-2008, 23:16

Couldn't believe Pogatetz tried to act like it was a fair tackle, what a cock. Fergie said it could be a break.

AgentZero

23-09-2008, 23:27

I missed the second half as i had company, how did Possebon play in the second half before cming off, i thought he was very lively in the first halftbh anderson and possebon were quite lazy, didnt track players and their goals came as a result of this.

Foxhound

24-09-2008, 05:36

I missed the game. I was very tired and wasn't bothered to wake up at 3 in the morning to watch it.

From what I read, Pogatetz is a cunt for protesting the ref's decision when it's a red card offence.

Meyyappan

24-09-2008, 07:19

How do you guys rate Possebon?

AgentZero

24-09-2008, 07:39

very highly. Much better than Leiva.

Top Gun

24-09-2008, 10:21

It's been confirmed he hasn't broken his leg, now they're trying to find out the real extent of the injury.

AgentZero

24-09-2008, 10:49

thats a brilliant sig top gun.

Meyyappan

24-09-2008, 12:16

very highly. Much better than Leiva.

I mean like seriously is he a good prospect,how much you have bought him for is he better than fletcher?what kind of central midfielder is he? is he truly better than levia? how is he in comparison to our little general Denilson?

AgentZero

24-09-2008, 12:37

Is he better than Leiva....yes (IMO) compare Denilson to Anderson, as Rodrigo hasnt had the same amount of exposure as Denilson.

mufcsean

24-09-2008, 12:51

Possebon certainly does look like a talent, but it's hard to compare him to the likes of Anderson, Lucas and Denilson as he hasn't reached the world stage like they have.

Possebon is 19 and Anderson is 20, but when Anderson was 19 he was already a well known player where as Possebon isn't. But that is not to say Possebon won't be great, he just isn't as big as Anderson or Denilson, i however do not particularly rate Lucas so.......

AgentZero

24-09-2008, 12:53

i dont rate any liverpool player tbh..bar Gerrard + Torres.

mufcsean

24-09-2008, 12:55

It's not that he plays fo rLiverpool, its the fact that everytime i have seen him he looked completely out of place, he is like the player who is the best out of your mates but just isn't good enough to be professional.

Haribo

24-09-2008, 13:10

i dont rate any liverpool player tbh..bar Gerrard + Torres.

Mascherano > them. :smug:

Phil W.A.F.C

24-09-2008, 17:59

Is he better than Leiva....yes (IMO) compare Denilson to Anderson, as Rodrigo hasnt had the same amount of exposure as Denilson.

Compare Anderson to Gerrard more like, Galactico. I really like Anderson.

AgentZero

25-09-2008, 04:18

-See two posts below-

Berba-tov-tov-tov!!! Came across that and felt like sharing.

ATH10

25-09-2008, 21:39

i dont rate any liverpool player tbh..bar Gerrard + Torres.

Well you're a fucking spastic then.

mufcsean

25-09-2008, 22:17

ZFgmKW9-92w&hl

There you go Agent

AgentZero

26-09-2008, 00:09

cheers sean. Didnt notice it didnt work. Calm down ATH10.

I.N Extasy

27-09-2008, 12:46

Rooney should be benched for a game or two. I believe that's what would get him to playing better. He tries too hard in working for the team, he should channel his energy in playing forward and not tracking back!

I'd like to see Carlitos and Berbatov upfront for us against Bolton.

mufcsean

27-09-2008, 16:21

That was never a penalty, very poor decision by the ref.

Berry

27-09-2008, 16:23

Rob Styles, you should be embarrassed.

Who's worse: Mike Riley or Rob Styles :lol:?

Cannon ball

27-09-2008, 16:38

Sounds like a typical Old Trafford decision.

Berry

27-09-2008, 16:45

1636: GOAL Man Utd 2-0 Bolton
Brilliant goal. Cristiano Ronaldo races down the left into the Bolton box and backheels into the path of Wayne Rooney, who shifts the ball inside and curls a superb ball into the far corner. Cracker.

I look forward to MOTD tonight :happy: Should be some good action tonight.

mufcsean

27-09-2008, 16:50

Brilliant Goal by Rooney

Berry

27-09-2008, 16:53

Full-time Man Utd 2-0 Bolton

mufcsean

27-09-2008, 16:55

Glad Rooney scored, fergie knew what he was doing ;)

Appswah

27-09-2008, 17:04

Great goal by rooney. And it was never a penalty..

I was getting rather annoyed watching the last 20 mins of that match.. United just couldnt finish soo many chances.

Berry

27-09-2008, 17:06

Is Man United's season back on track now, after that bad start? Ronaldo on form?

Foxhound

27-09-2008, 17:08

We got lucky with the penalty decision, I thought the ref would give Ronaldo a yellow card.
Great goal by Rooney. Scholes was very good. That long range pass to Neville was brilliant!

dotty

27-09-2008, 17:24

Haha Charlie Nicholas is ripping into Rob Stiles on SSN

Hunter

27-09-2008, 17:59

Apparently Ronnie didn't even appeal for the penalty so can't really criticise him, if he dived he obviously knew he did wrong. Can't wait for MOTD now tonight, 10:05pm. I'm ridiculously happy for Rooney though, the amount of criticism he has come under in recent months, hopeuflly this will give him a major boost and ease some pressure.

50!

27-09-2008, 20:58

http://i33.tinypic.com/2jagh9i.jpg

freestyleh7

27-09-2008, 21:05

Ronaldo dive, shock.

Hunter

27-09-2008, 21:35

That was never a dive, just a great tackle, there was clearly contact, anyone can see that. I feel sorry for those who have such bad eyesight to think that it was a dive.

freestyleh7

27-09-2008, 21:37

It was definatly a dive. :D

Phil W.A.F.C

27-09-2008, 22:12

That was'nt a dive, Ronaldo's back leg hit Samuels on the way down. No dive.

Sweey

27-09-2008, 22:15

That was never a dive, just a great tackle, there was clearly contact, anyone can see that. I feel sorry for those who have such bad eyesight to think that it was a dive.

There was indeed contact. However, the actual movement of Ronaldo's leg proves he went down when he didn't need to, irrespective of the momentum argument. Watch that clip very very closely.

Still, if he didn't appeal then that tells you something as well.

Hunter

27-09-2008, 23:34

There was indeed contact. However, the actual movement of Ronaldo's leg proves he went down when he didn't need to, irrespective of the momentum argument. Watch that clip very very closely.

Still, if he didn't appeal then that tells you something as well.

About 50% of the players don't need to go to ground after contact but they do. The sad fact is if you don't go to ground the chances are the referee won't give you the decision. But as you say, Ronnie didn't appeal, I think even he knew it was a great tackle.

AgentZero

28-09-2008, 00:54

so who will score first? Berbatov or Keane?

dotty

28-09-2008, 01:20

Is it just me or should a 30 millions pound player hit the ground running at any club he's at.

Totally over the odds, he's not worth even 20 million

Dragonfly

28-09-2008, 01:23

Maybe now they've made their dream moves, they feel they don't need to prove themselves? Anyway, I reckon Berbatov will get the first.

dotty

28-09-2008, 01:27

I don't think it's that really surely he knows he'll be out on his arse if he plays up he acted like a child when he couldn't move from Tottenham what happens when he's not hitting form then gets dropped? Just think it was the wrong player to get Jan Klaas was the man for me.

AgentZero

28-09-2008, 01:47

well he hasnt done too badly. Had 2 assists in his first 2 competitive matches. The thing with deadline day transfers is that the players havent had time to gel properly. If we had gotten him at the open of the window and he went through preseason and the africa tours then im sure hed be more of an impact. I still think the players are trying to figure how to play with him, like we havent played with an out and out frontman in a while. Anywhoms brilliant goal by rooney.

Cannon ball

28-09-2008, 22:55

Ronaldo went down as a result of the tackle, which happens to players. It wasn't a dive.

Barry

29-09-2008, 11:02

http://i33.tinypic.com/2jagh9i.jpg

Never a penalty. Normally I'd chastize Ronaldo for diving (God knows how I want to) but it's hard to see if his right foot gets stuck in the tackle. I think the referee is the one to blame here more than Ronaldo though.

Should a ref take into account the history of the one going down?

Ziss

29-09-2008, 18:22

They should, but only in hope that said player will try to clean up his act after he has appeal after appeal turned down.

mufcsean

30-09-2008, 19:05

Team to play Aalborg tonight.

VDS
Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
O Shea
Scholes
Nani
Berbatov
Rooney

The Messiah

30-09-2008, 19:07

Tevez will be pissed.

Ziss

30-09-2008, 20:15

He hasn't shown any reason for me to believe he'll react in a bad way to be being dropped; Rooney didn't.

BATE 2 up over Juve!?!?

Sweey

30-09-2008, 20:48

BATE 2 up over Juve!?!?

Didn't last long though. Still with Trezeguet and Amauri out, being 2-0 down was a desperate situation.

mufcsean

30-09-2008, 20:51

Rafael has looked very good so far.
Scholes :no:
Glad to see Rooney get another goal.
Nani has been awful at crossing, bar the one that nearly set Rooney up.

EDIT: Berbatovs 2nd was a beauty.

Hope Rooney's injury is nothing serious.

wrigh2uk

30-09-2008, 21:54

That was a lovely flick up by Augustinussen for Berbatovs first lol

mufcsean

30-09-2008, 22:00

^ :lol:

According to Ferguson Scholes will be out for a few weeks and Rooneys was a slight ankle knock, didn't mention Rafael though?

Appswah

30-09-2008, 22:04

thought Rafael was great. Shame about all the injuries though :/.
What was with Nani tonight? All his shots were blocked and his crosses sucked.

Berba was abit lucky with his second goal, but nice finishing :)

mufcsean

30-09-2008, 23:15

It's the same with Nani every week, just does not have an end product, and most of the time he doesn't look like he is bothered that he is frustrating the rest of the team.

Like when Nani broke down the left wing in the second half and Ronalod was clear through the middle, Nani kept running until his touch, as always let him down, and Ronaldo was going mad, but Nani just didn't give a fuck.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_4227500,00.html

FUCK SAKE, Scholesy out for upto eight weeks. Hopefully Hargreaves will be fit for the Blackburn game.

Anybody notice how many left footed shots Rafael had, i reckon he and fabio pulled the old switcheroo on Fergie.

EDIT:

Watching the highlights of Villareal vs Celtic, why did we let Rossi go :no:

AgentZero

01-10-2008, 01:07

couldnt see the game but great to see berba break his duck..twice. His second was a beauty. Need highlights..anyone?

Baddar

01-10-2008, 19:37

Nani is quite possibly the most frustrating player I've ever seen. Towards the back end of last season my main gripe with him was that he took too many shots and in general made wrong decisions when team-mates were in better positions.

I'd hoped the break over the summer and in pre-season he would learn from his mistakes, but it just seems to be getting worse.

He scored a couple of cracking goals from around 25 yards last season, but it's a shame he only scores one in every 385 attempts. I wouldn't mind betting that he'd probably finish the season with one of, if not THE most assists if he actually passed instead of took the shooting option more often.

Meyyappan

02-10-2008, 05:44

Yes i feel you guys should then sell Nani maybe to Arsenal?

AgentZero

02-10-2008, 10:48

Yes i feel you guys should then sell Nani maybe to Arsenal?we got him for 17 and to a rival, not a penny under 25M,packet of space invaders too.
Yeah he reminds me of Ronaldo in his first seasons here. In his case it was too many stepovers less end product, however Nani on his day was better than Ronaldo back then on his day.

PS: Mind you Ronaldo was 19/20 and Nani is 21/22

Meyyappan

02-10-2008, 11:19

So Nani at his peak > Ronaldo at his prime

And by the way who was your/Man u 's Player of the season during the season 98-99.

AgentZero

02-10-2008, 11:23

So Nani at his peak > Ronaldo at his prime

And by the way who was your/Man u 's Player of the season during the season 98-99.
What!? ROnaldo isnt even in his prime yet.

Meyyappan

02-10-2008, 11:43

What!? ROnaldo isnt even in his prime yet.

Okay i get u but i am telling u tio predict things and by the way answer my second question plz.

AgentZero

02-10-2008, 12:06

rigth well i dont think Nani will be better than ronaldo...i just hope that he proves me wrong.
As for player of teh year...wouldnt have a clue..wouldnt be surprised if it was Yorke or Beckham.

Meyyappan

02-10-2008, 16:53

I was thinking about Beckham...............

Barry

02-10-2008, 17:25