Manchester United

[AgentZero]

more like a concorde to me, his wings were slightly tucked back.

[wrigh2uk]

http://ygraine.membrane.com/enterhtml/stranger/pictures/Spilling_Milk.jpg

:cool:

[wrathchild_uk]

Think this match has summed up our season so far for me...missing easy chances e.g. Ronney attempt and again conceding from another set piece, dunno why Anderson was allowed to take the freekick in the box though as he doesn't look like scoring ever, even so Arsenal could still rape us in the second half cus they look like scoring everytime they go forward..

[Dragonfly]

Or when Neville led with his arm and lifted it enough to move the ball away.

[Guillermo]

Again.. :faceplm:

[Miggy]

It could have been game on right there.

[wrathchild_uk]

Could be a few more at this rate..

[Miggy]

What's with everyone trying to score from outside the box? Far too hasty from you guys. You'd think it was the last 10 minutes of the game.

[skullverine]

I think it was a mistake to go for a 4-4-2.

Wish that Wes was fit for this game.

[Miggy]

Is Carlitos injured?

[skullverine]

Is Carlitos injured?

Berbatov is favoured.
I don't trust Gary Neville for games like these.

[Miggy]

Tevez is made for these kind of games. I'd love to see him feature.

[wrigh2uk]

Told ya they don't give penalties away for free the Emirates, even we don't get one!!!!!!!

[Barry]

Think this match has summed up our season so far for me...missing easy chances e.g. Ronney attempt and again conceding from another set piece, dunno why Anderson was allowed to take the freekick in the box though as he doesn't look like scoring ever, even so Arsenal could still rape us in the second half cus they look like scoring everytime they go forward..

Anderson should never be allowed near such a free-kick again - surely there are enough quality players to take it? If you were going for power just let Ferdinand or Rooney or whoever else you want to name take it.

[Dragonfly]

Tevez is made for these kind of games. I'd love to see him feature.

I was going to say. Teves would've been the better player to bring on, rather than Giggs.

[Miggy]

2-0 down and he takes Rooney off :unsure:

[Barry]

Benitez is a lousy subber but Ferguson takes the cake today.

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Our record in top four games has been poor so far

Man U - 1 point from 3 games although all away
Arsenal - 3 points from 1 game at home
Chelsea - 1 point from 2 games at home
Liverpool - 6 points from 2 games one home and one away

Out of that you'd say Arsenal and Liverpool have the title winning credentials. We certainly I believe we will have to win all our home games against the other three in order to win the league. As I've said previously we just look lazy and not up for the fight this season, despite the late goal. Today Fergie didn't help, he should have brought tevez on for anderson instead of giggs on, but we never really took the game to them and didn't deserve anything. You can't be lazy against a top four side and expect to get anything from the game.

[wrigh2uk]

Great game lads, I have no idea why Rafael didn't start the guy looked solid when he came on and capped it off with a screamer. Really was a great game of football though.

[Figо10]

Same Rafael couldn't save that goal for a better occasion.

[Dragonfly]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45187000/jpg/_45187196_-34.jpg

Great game! You gave us a right fright.

You still have a game in hand on us, so you could end up a point ahead by that time.

[AgentZero]

Giggs in the middle instead of Anderson, why!? Fabulous little goal by Rafa, nev had two cracks and was nowhere near, also his face when Rafael scored was priceless.

[Dragonfly]

Giggs in the middle instead of Anderson, why!? Fabulous little goal by Rafa, nev had two cracks and was nowhere near, also his face when Rafael scored was priceless.

I missed that. I'll have to have a look out for it. Hopefully MOTD will show it. Neville shouldn't be starting anymore, at least not in the Premiership or Champions League.

[AgentZero]

I missed that. I'll have to have a look out for it. Hopefully MOTD will show it. Neville shouldn't be starting anymore, at least not in the England League or Champions League.
you should mate, everyone around him was clenching/pumping fists and he just fornlornly clapped.

[wrathchild_uk]

I think were not playing as well as last year and our defence just doesnt look as tight this season, i think some of that surely had to come down to Qurieoz being no our no 2. Personally i don't think Phelan was the man to replace him..Fergie needed another top class guy as his no 2 and i don't see Phelan as that.. :ninja:

[AgentZero]

I hear Juande Ramos is unemployed, sipping a bud,watching the game...

[Nifty1Pound50]

I would just like to state, on the record - once, and definitively - that I hate Cristiano Ronaldo. He is a diving, cheating scumbag who takes pleasure out of conning the rest of the footballing world - in particular, the referee officiating on any given match - into awarding him decisions.

I have chosen this moment to state this so you can't all accuse me of being jealous. He had a shit game, by his exceptionally high standards, which was fully deserved from the moment he won a free-kick off Fabregas, and grinned like a Cheshire cat at the referee to let him know he conned him.

Considering his age is similar to my own, I actually feel he's a pathetic human being for being a diver. I play football regularly and I can't believe that Fabregas let him get away with such scandalous behaviour. If it were I, I would have at the very least stood over him and intimidated him with some threats of some kind.

It saddens me that the player who is considered the brightest light to lead my team forward (Fabregas) in years to come condoned this sort of disgusting behaviour by exchanging a cheeky little grinning conversation with him.

Now that's out of the way, I think it was a cracking game of football - brilliant to see the two teams who (by some distance) play the best football in the league going at it. 21 of the players played the game in a great spirit, too.

I actually think this game, and the way it played out, will benefit both clubs. Games like this can highlight weaknesses that big teams like us and yourselves can get away with most weeks against lesser opposition.

For example, it was blatantly clear today that Park Ji-Sung and Anderson, despite their endeavour, simply aren't Manchester United standard players. Similarly for us, Denilson's a long way off from being good enough, while Bendtner really needs to play with a second striker up top with him.

[skullverine]

Our record in top four games has been poor so far

Man U - 1 point from 3 games although all away
Arsenal - 3 points from 1 game at home
Chelsea - 1 point from 2 games at home
Liverpool - 6 points from 2 games one home and one away



In my opinion, missing Carlos Quieroz has a lot to do with that.

[mufcsean]

Neville was awful today, should have come off a lot earlier. Rafael was impressive when he came on and what a finish.

I would have never taken Rooney off at that point, yes i'd have brought Tevez on but probably for Park, who didn't have a bad game, but switching to a 4-3-3 would have been a lot better for us in the last quarter of the game.

I personally wouldn't have brought Giggs on either, i'd have gone for Nani, despite him being shite, he is quick and pace down that left was something we missed today.

Thought that was handball by Clichy, but i can see why it wasn't given.

Never a yellow for Carrick, awful decision by the ref, he had every right, probably more so than Almunia, to go for it.

All in all, Arsenal deserved the win imo

[Figо10]

Never a yellow for Carrick, awful decision by the ref, he had every right, probably more so than Almunia, to go for it.
Carrick should've gotten one for the slide on Diaby in the first half though.

Clichy's was a handball though a minor one, giving that would've brought the stadium down.

[wrathchild_uk]

Seriously though Anderson needs to sort out some shooting practice or something, can't see him being the next Ronaldinho at the moment..

[AgentZero]

In my opinion, missing Carlos Quieroz has a lot to do with that.
portugak are doing shite...cmon sack him!!!

[mufcsean]

Anderson runs like a spactic, shoots like a disabled person and that bottom lip is not helping. He honestly needs to practice shooting, i think in his whole time at United he has had less than 10 shots on target.

Still an absolutely fantastic player though :lol:

[TheBishop]

Great game lads. How long do you think before Rafael is first choice? Brilliantly taken goal.

[vanNistelrooy]

Today was the only time I'd seen him defend well, so not for a while.

[Viperized]

For example, it was blatantly clear today that Park Ji-Sung and Anderson, despite their endeavour, simply aren't Manchester United standard players. Similarly for us, Denilson's a long way off from being good enough, while Bendtner really needs to play with a second striker up top with him.
What game were you watching? Denilson was excellent.

Bendtner on the other hand was atrocious and he was the one who looked like being a long way off from being good enough. Was quite clearly the worst player on the pitch.

[vanNistelrooy]

I seem to recall Park playing quality against Barcelona and pretty decent against Chelsea. But you know, if we're basing opinions on one game you're not too far off :rolleyes:

At least our losses are away to two of the three big teams, which should see us finish ahead of Arsenal at least. That said, we need to get our fucking act together. I haven't seen us play as good as we did last season one time this season. Should have paid big bucks to keep Quieroz :(

[TheBishop]

What game were you watching? Denilson was excellent.

Bendtner on the other hand was atrocious and he was the one who looked like being a long way off from being good enough. Was quite clearly the worst player on the pitch.

I thought Bendtner led the line pretty well but his decision making is not to the standard it needs to be.

[vanNistelrooy]

Fucking hell, talk about fickle.

[TheBishop]

Who's that aimed at?

[vanNistelrooy]

You lot. A young striker, who doesn't get much of a run out at his club, gets chucked into a lone role which he obviously isn't comfortable in, against a big team and you win. Yet you criticize him? Always something I've noticed about the majority of Arsenal fans; dwelling on negative thoughts from a game you should be jubilant about.

[TheBishop]

You lot. A young striker, who doesn't get much of a run out at his club, gets chucked into a lone role which he obviously isn't comfortable in, against a big team and you win. Yet you criticize him? Always something I've noticed about the majority of Arsenal fans; dwelling on negative thoughts from a game you should be jubilant about.

Like i said, i thought Bendtner led the line well, was strong in the air against Vidic and Rio but when he gets given a chance, the decisions he makes are very questionable. But he is still young so there's still time for improvement, but it will have to if he's to make it at Arsenal.

I'm obviously happy about winning, and i couldn't have asked more from the players that played.

[dalechapman]

The fans obviously get it from wenger :rolleyes:

[Phil W.A.F.C]

United out of it or what boys? I'm begining to wonder if Fergie will just go for the Champions League again.

[I.N Extasy]

The team needs to get a grip of itself. The players, in general, have been far too overconfident this season - it's not by doing nowt that the three points will be awarded to them.

What the fuck was up with Ferguson today?

[wrigh2uk]

Seriously though Anderson needs to sort out some shooting practice or something, can't see him being the next Ronaldinho at the moment..

I could have told you that from day one.

[mufcsean]

Still can't believe it. :(

we aren't out of the title race PhilWAFC, but if we don't step up soon we will be

[Figо10]

Far from outta the title race.

As for Anderson, after last season I've never believed him to be a 'goal 'threat'. Most of his through passes never look convincing too.

[vanNistelrooy]

I don't know why he was labelled the new Ronaldinho, as he plays as a more defensive player (probably because he can't shoot for shit).

[Miggy]

United out of it or what boys? I'm begining to wonder if Fergie will just go for the Champions League again.

Even after this I still reckon Man United will finish ahead of Arsenal.
This is only going to cover the problems that Arsenal for a while.

[AgentZero]

I don't know why he was labelled the new Ronaldinho, as he plays as a more defensive player (probably because he can't shoot for shit).he just needs to keep his head down, sure mickey can give him a few pointers.

[TheBishop]

Apparently Manucho may play tonight. Looking forward to seeing what he can do.

[skullverine]

My local stations won't show this match. I'll have to find a decent stream.

[mufcsean]

Read Possebon, Rafael, Fabio, Manucho and Welbeck are all going to start. QPR to win anyone :lol:

[Guillermo]

Fabio's back? Would be great to see the twins together.

[mufcsean]

I though Fabio was injured too, i read it on teletext before though, hopefully he is :D

[Keyser Soze]

Is this gonna be on t.v?

[mufcsean]

Nope :(

[vanNistelrooy]

I was a cunt and just assumed it was? Oh well if it wasn't, will just watch Prison Break and either Indiana Jones or Ironman. Which would you suggest?

[Keyser Soze]

Arsenal-Wigan for me.

[vanNistelrooy]

What, rather than Indiana Jones or Ironman? Don't think the missus would enjoy Arsenal U9s vs Wigan :/

[mufcsean]

IS there a highlights show on tonight or tomorrow?

[vanNistelrooy]

Usually about 22:15 on Sky Sports News on the night of the games.

I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink.

[mufcsean]

Anybody read that about City wanting Darren Ferguson as their new Manager :lol:

Cheers Fantana

[vanNistelrooy]

I'm only going on what's happened in the past. Usually they say "tune in at 22:15 for goals from tonight's games". If I'm wrong, please don't hurt me :(

[TheBishop]

They usually show highlights on ITV on the Wednesday night.

[TheBishop]

Big News

Manchester United star Owen Hargreaves has been ruled out for the rest of the season through injury.

The 27-year-old midfielder has been forced to undergo surgery as he looks to correct his long-standing knee problem.

Hargreaves has been plagued by injury problems during his Old Trafford career and has started just 17 Premier League games since his 2007 move from Bayern Munich.

The England international has been restricted to just three appearances this season and has not featured since the 1-1 draw at Chelsea in September.

United sent him to see renowned surgeon Dr Richard Steadman last week and it was decided he would need to have surgery to cure the injury.

Hargrevaves has undergone an operation on his right knee and is due to have surgery on his left knee in a fortnight.

It means he will miss the rest of the campaign as United look to defend their Premier League and UEFA Champions League crowns.

[I.N Extasy]

Oh dear. :doh:

[mufcsean]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_4487273,00.html

For fucks sake. God damn it. I don't know what else to say.

[Guillermo]

I though Fabio was injured too, i read it on teletext before though, hopefully he is :D

Not in the squad. :faceplm:

[mufcsean]

:faceplm:

Damn it. Anybody found a stream?

[wrathchild_uk]

Was probably a good thing you couldnt...

[TheBishop]

When is Manucho gonna be given a chance? Tonight was a great opportunity to see what he's about. I believe he's 25,26. He may have to leave to get 1st team football.

[Wan]

When is Manucho gonna be given a chance? Tonight was a great opportunity to see what he's about. I believe he's 25,26. He may have to leave to get 1st team football.

Still unfit I think.

[mufcsean]

Na Manucho was on the bench. I am surprised he didn't come on, especially before we got the penalty.

[skullverine]

Hopefully the surgery will fix Hargreaves' knee problem once and for all.

[AgentZero]

:faceplm:

Damn it. Anybody found a stream?

all fuckin morning i looked..
Manucho was given a chance against Boro and he looked shaky...is he even playing for Oles team>?

[mufcsean]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4489331,00.html

Ronaldo is close to talks over a new deal apparently :unsure:

[Meyyappan]

Far from outta the title race.

As for Anderson, after last season I've never believed him to be a 'goal 'threat'. Most of his through passes never look convincing too.

Really you are an ace in the pack.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4489331,00.html

Ronaldo is close to talks over a new deal apparently :unsure:

Fergie's a bigger mug than Ronaldo. After holding the club to ransom all summer he gets talk's about a new deal after 12 games in. I wouldn't mind but he hasn't proved anything this season apart from proving he's a miserable basterd.

[Keyser Soze]

Fergie's a bigger mug than Ronaldo. After holding the club to ransom all summer he gets talk's about a new deal after 12 games in. I wouldn't mind but he hasn't proved anything this season apart from proving he's a miserable basterd.
What has he got to prove? Really? If Fergie doesn't want him, someone else will - no doubt about that. He's just playing it safe as you would with any of your top players.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

What has he got to prove? Really? If Fergie doesn't want him, someone else will - no doubt about that. He's just playing it safe as you would with any of your top players.

He has to prove his loyalty by coming out and saying "i dont want a move to madrid" or something along them lines instead of saying "i'll probably still be in Manchester next season" or what ever he said.

[vanNistelrooy]

What has he got to prove? Really? If Fergie doesn't want him, someone else will - no doubt about that. He's just playing it safe as you would with any of your top players.
That and hopefully it'll give him a kick up the ass, as he's been awful this season (not just in comparison to last).

[AgentZero]

awful as it is he has scored 6 goals. I remember feeling even more happy after moscow when he said to the reporter hell definately be in manchester, only to then give us a roller coaster ride during the summer.

[Figо10]

Great display today.

Promising outings for Wellbeck and what a hit.

Hope United can hit the goal trail after this game and catch up somewhat with Chelsea's goal difference.

[skullverine]

I'm very happy with the result. Very good performance from Ronaldo, and what a strike from Wellbeck!

[vanNistelrooy]

Anyone got links to the goals?

[skullverine]

Anyone got links to the goals?

Try redcafe.net later. They might have it.

edit: a member of that website posted this link.
http://golotripa.blogspot.com/2008/11/manchester-united-vs-stoke-city-goals.html

[mufcsean]

Three main positives from today.

1. We didn't concede
2. We always looked like scoring more
3. Welbeck, Gibson and Manucho all getting a run out, really glad Welbeck was able to bag one aswell.

[nath_scfc]

That Welbeck goal was something else. Park was the best player on the pitch in the first half too.

[I.N Extasy]

How did Mani play?

[AgentZero]

mani? nani or manucho?
how brilliant did park play! Good to see mickey back and lively again.

[Top Gun]

Carrick is such an important player for us. He just makes everything tick, when he went off injured against Liverpool we really lost control of the game and they went on to beat us. Same happened against Newcastle in the first game of the season and when we played Hull we were 4-1 up when he went off and we just didn't look the same after that. He was our best midfielder last season. He's no world beater but he just makes everything flow for us.

Hopefully he is past all of the little niggles he's had at the start of the season and he can get back to starting every game.

[mufcsean]

I completely agree about Carrick, he is brilliant at seeing available passes and making things happen. And he seems to be adding even more to his game, a few times i have seen him drift out wide, whilst Fletcher for example comes inside, and put balls in, very good crosses as well. As for his goal today, it was brilliant, not only was he surrounded by 3 players but he also smashed it in with his weaker left, just as he did against Hull.

I didn't see Welbecks goal until MoTD, and what a goal it was, on MoTD they had a brief talk about our young guns, which was nice as you don't hear as much as you do with the Arsenal kids, understandably, but our youngsters really are exciting. Welbeck, Campbell, Rafael, Possebon, Fabio, Evans, Gibson, Simpson and Brandy are the most promising.

As for Ronaldo, both goals were the keeper's fault IMO, but it was really good to see him celebrating again. 101 in 5 years is outstanding for a midfielder and even more amazing when you take into account that he still only 23.

Berbatov is so cool it's unbelievable :lol: Bit lucky with goal but everything he does amazes me.

Whilst i wish Rooney was Rooney was playing, it really is great to see Tevez palying more. He is such a good team player, if we don't sign him and let him go to Real for example i will be absolutely gutted. I think/hope Fergie knows better than to let him go though.

Evans impressed me again also, he is one for the future definitely.

[Meyyappan]

Carrick is such an important player for us. He just makes everything tick, when he went off injured against Liverpool we really lost control of the game and they went on to beat us. Same happened against Newcastle in the first game of the season and when we played Hull we were 4-1 up when he went off and we just didn't look the same after that. He was our best midfielder last season. He's no world beater but he just makes everything flow for us.

Hopefully he is past all of the little niggles he's had at the start of the season and he can get back to starting every game.

Better than ronaldo?

[I.N Extasy]

You could say Carrick is a downgraded version of Deco?

Edit: I meant Manucho. But tell me about Nani as well. (if he played)

[Joel]

Considering the position and role in the team, I'd say more Pirlo than Deco.

[Meyyappan]

You could say Carrick is a downgraded version of Deco?

Edit: I meant Manucho. But tell me about Nani as well. (if he played)

Considering the position and role in the team, I'd say more Pirlo than Deco.

Exactly an inferior,downgraded version of Pirlo and deco has far more dribbling skills and midfield leadership qualities to bring the ball out of midfield for example.

[I.N Extasy]

Right. (at Joel)

Carrick isn't the type of player who stands out...he sort of plays behind the scenes and is usually involved in both our defensive and attacking maneuvers. He "gets the ball rolling" for us, so to speak. :mellow:

[AgentZero]

Exactly an inferior,downgraded version of Pirlo and deco has far more dribbling skills and midfield leadership qualities to bring the ball out of midfield for example.yeh fuck you for that statement in bold. Manucho looked so-so, he could of done better with his sole chance but decided it was more important to dive, give him time i suppose.

[I.N Extasy]

yeh fuck you for that statement in bold.

Fuck you for not saying this: "Fuck you for all your posts. xx"

Manucho looked so-so, he could of done better with his sole chance but decided it was more important to dive, give him time i suppose.

Aye, I have a feeling he'll be no more than a squad player. I'd like to be proven wrong. :\

[AgentZero]

Fuck you for not saying this: "Fuck you for all your posts. xx"



Aye, I have a feeling he'll be no more than a squad player. I'd like to be proven wrong. :\yeah i hope he becomes a hit in the reserves and smashes some 20+ goals in, he got a great mentor in Ole.

[vanNistelrooy]

yeh fuck you for that statement in bold. Manucho looked so-so, he could of done better with his sole chance but decided it was more important to dive, give him time i suppose.
Don't worry, he's just upset because Fabregas has been "found out".

[Meyyappan]

yeh fuck you for that statement in bold. Manucho looked so-so, he could of done better with his sole chance but decided it was more important to dive, give him time i suppose.

I didnt mean of Deco,just pirlo's mini version

[mufcsean]

Meyyappan, do everybody a favour and stay the fuck out of here.

Manucho's dive :lol: what an idiot

[Top Gun]

Better than ronaldo?

I don't really consider Ronaldo a midfielder as it usually suggest that you do some kind of defensive work.

Exactly an inferior,downgraded version of Pirlo and deco has far more dribbling skills and midfield leadership qualities to bring the ball out of midfield for example.

That's probably fair enough actually, Pirlo and Deco are definitely better passers of the ball and Deco especially is better going forward. But I would say Carrick is the better defender of the three, his positional sense is superb and he breaks up so many attacks.

[Meyyappan]

Meyyappan, do everybody a favour and stay the fuck out of here.

Manucho's dive :lol: what an idiot

The fabrication mark of a true red devil.

Don't worry, he's just upset because Fabregas has been "found out".

You just wait my friend just wait

[wrathchild_uk]

Exactly an inferior,downgraded version of Pirlo and deco

Seriously fuck off now..

[mufcsean]

The fabrication mark of a true red devil.



You just wait my friend just wait

If i thought for a second that you actually even understood what you had just said i might have listened, no doubt you saw an Arsenal supporter call a Man United fan that on the Arsenal forum you constantly steal from.

[Meyyappan]

I don't really consider Ronaldo a midfielder as it usually suggest that you do some kind of defensive work.



That's probably fair enough actually, Pirlo and Deco are definitely better passers of the ball and Deco especially is better going forward. But I would say Carrick is the better defender of the three, his positional sense is superb and he breaks up so many attacks.

Also Deco is far superior dribbler.

If i thought for a second that you actually even understood what you had just said i might have listened, no doubt you saw an Arsenal supporter call a Man United fan that on the Arsenal forum you constantly steal from.
Those are my very own fabrications and i have stopped copying and started quoting

You are a complete idiot

















and i stole that from your wife

[mufcsean]

Also Deco is far superior dribbler.


Those are my very own fabrications and i have stopped copying and started quoting

You are a complete idiot

and i stole that from your wife

:chanlaugh: You stole that from my wife did you, first of all grow up, secondly, i'm not married.

Don't act like you don't copy anymore, you clearly do, Keyser made a great point earlier about how you can tell where you have added things to other people's remarks, the only thing you have written yourself is written poorly and is full of spelling mistakes. Seriously nobody believes that you come up with this shit on your own, we arent stupid where as you are, seriously do us all a favour and stop.

:chanlaugh: Still can't believe you said you stole that from my wife, idiot.

[wrathchild_uk]

Didn't he open up a thread saying he was leaving pesgaming...why has he not left then? :faceplm:

[mufcsean]

Dunno but i really wish he would.

Anyway this is from the other day,

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_4502489,00.html

I too hope he has as big an impact, it's great seeing Rafael on the right but i can't wait to see these 2 on opposite sides.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_4507380,00.html

Fergie hopes Scholes will be back by early December, me too, he is one of our most important players, just like Carrick he knits the team together well, but Scholes does it better.

[papa]

Those are my very own fabrications and i have stopped copying and started quoting

You are a complete idiot

















and i stole that from your wife

Endless chanlaughs, facepalms and more. That was fantastic.

[AgentZero]

coming to think about it, Manucho's dive really pisses me off. He has this chance to do something in the first team and Ronaldo out of all people decides to crosses it to him instead of shooting, heck not even rooney can have that sort of service. Yet he decides it was a better idea to have a dive. I just hope he has a blinder next time around.

[I.N Extasy]

Did he have enough time to show whether he has better decision taking skills? Or was it only an occasion, which was where he chose to dive? :\

I haven't been able to watch us play lately. :no:

Does anyone know where I can find streams of a relatively low quality? That way, they'll load a lot faster. I watched the first half of the Arsenal game that way and it was streaming just fine.

PM please!

Thanks.

[skullverine]

What's the latest news on Wes Brown?

[mufcsean]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_4511350,00.html

Never heard of him

[Joel]

Two match touchline ban for Sir Alex then. Pretty big, as your next two games are away to Aston Villa and Manchester City.

Edit: Scrap that. He'll miss the Carling Cup game against Blackburn and the following league game against Sunderland. Both are at home.

http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4516574,00.html

[TheBishop]

How comes it isn't an imminent ban like a player gets for a red card? Didn't say anything about appealing so I don't understand why the ban starts late.

[Joel]

How comes it isn't an imminent ban like a player gets for a red card? Didn't say anything about appealing so I don't understand why the ban starts late.

I would like to know the answer to this as well. Drogba got hit with an immediate three game ban.

[I.N Extasy]

Well, it's Sir Alex Ferguson we're talking about! I support United but I could bet he has his own ways with these kinds of situations. :shifty:

[skullverine]

I don't remember any incidents being reported after the Hull game.

[mufcsean]

:chanlaugh:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sportvideos/article1909625.ece

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00644/rona_682x400_644014a.jpg

[TheBishop]

Yeah saw that on Soccer AM.

[Meyyappan]

Well, it's Sir Alex Ferguson we're talking about! I support United but I could bet he has his own ways with these kinds of situations. :shifty:


I think he has his way too but how he does it?

[AgentZero]

:chanlaugh:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/sportvideos/article1909625.ece

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00644/rona_682x400_644014a.jpg

go on albie!!

[Top Gun]

Wesley is out until New Years at the earliest, hopefully we will see some more of Rafael.

[mufcsean]

Too right, i can't wait to see him and Fabio together

[skullverine]

Wesley is out until New Years at the earliest, hopefully we will see some more of Rafael.

Nothing on manutd.com yet. So, hopefully the news isn't true. I was hoping that Brown would start for the derby.

[Top Gun]

We've nearly signed two young Serbian lads, Adem Ljajic and Zoran Tošić. Both have been on trial before but now a deal has been agreed for a combined £8m. Just waiting for work permits now.

Never heard of either of them.

[uA - 1905]

Tossic looks aight.

[Guillermo]

I signed Ljajic on FM last night. :lol:

I'm a bit worried over the Villa game. Our fantastic run against them is bound to end soon.

[mufcsean]

Na, we always do well against them, we usually score about 4 against them. Today won't be any different.














I hope

[vanNistelrooy]

Not if we continue to play as turd as we have so far this season.

[Joel]

Not sure if it has been posted before, but it's a pretty funny video:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YywCkOAc_V8&feature=rec-r2

Can't remember how to imbed youtube videos.

[skullverine]

Na, we always do well against them, we usually score about 4 against them. Today won't be any different.














I hope
Not when Friedel is around. I expect him to pull off some amazing saves later.

[mufcsean]

Our team for today

VDS
O' Shea
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra
Ronaldo
Park
Carrick
Giggs
Tevez
Rooney

[TheBishop]

Rio's back, good he's in my dream team.

With that team and Ronaldo starting to enjoy himself again, I'd expect a win. 3-1 Man Utd.

[wrathchild_uk]

This could be a great chance to close the gap...just watch us mess it up!

[Guillermo]

Must win derby game. :/

[skullverine]

Must win derby game. :/

I hope so. City away is very tough. If I remember correctly, United have only won once at Eastlands. Rooney and Tevez were poor today. :/

[vanNistelrooy]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.

We need Queiroz back.

Not SUCH a bad result, given the teams Chelski and Liverpoo drew at home against.

[Figо10]

Not SUCH a bad result, given the teams Chelski and Liverpoo drew at home against.
Let's just take it as this matchday never happened.

Unless you're Arsenal of course.

[wrathchild_uk]

Yea theres no doubt we still don't seem to be playing like we did last season, obviously losing Queiroz must be a big factor in that. Our away form has been rather poor so far..

[Joel]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.

We need Queiroz back.

Not SUCH a bad result, given the teams Chelski and Liverpoo drew at home against.

You'll probably get Queiroz back soon, he's having a shocker as the main man once again.

Given the team Chelsea drew with at home? Let me see. Who did you draw the first game of the season at home with?

[BarnDoor]

Yes, you should both admit Newcastle are the best team in the Premiership and its certainly no disgrace to drop points against us.

[Ghost]

I've said it once and I'll say it again.

We need Queiroz back.

Please take him back.

[Cannon ball]

I hope so. City away is very tough. If I remember correctly, United have only won once at Eastlands. Rooney and Tevez were poor today. :/

Twice actually, 1-0 two seasons back with Ronaldo's penalty and some time back you won 2-0, Rooney and a Dunne own goal, it was in Mourinho's first season with Chelsea.

[wrathchild_uk]

Just watched the highlights and we again missed some good chances, Villa were also very unlucky not to get a penalty..

[Hunter]

As said, we need Querioz back pronto. 'Nuff said.

[mufcsean]

It was never a penalty, it was outside the box.
How Rooney didn't score i don't know.

At least we aren't any worse off than what we were at the beginning of the day

[I.N Extasy]

It was never a penalty, it was outside the box.
How Rooney didn't score i don't know.

I watched only the second half.

It was not a penalty Wrath.

Aye, it's the kind of goal, a player like Rooney should be scoring. That is, if you're talking about the ball Rooney got just after a nice flick of Carrick's, who was just outside the box.

I was impressed with Vidic. For a defender of his build and the role he has in the team, he has good technique. He is also among, if not the best tackler in our side.

[Meyyappan]

I watched only the second half.

It was not a penalty Wrath.

Aye, it's the kind of goal, a player like Rooney should be scoring. That is, if you're talking about the ball Rooney got just after a nice flick of Carrick's, who was just outside the box.

I was impressed with Vidic. For a defender of his build and the role he has in the team, he has good technique. He is also among, if not the best tackler in our side.

Me too.

Who do you guys prefer/is better?

Rio or Vida

[Lord Shrimpeh]

Wasn't a bad result yesterday but considering the others dropped points we needed to capitalise if we're to stand a chance of catching them up and winning the league.

[skullverine]

Wasn't a bad result yesterday but considering the others dropped points we needed to capitalise if we're to stand a chance of catching them up and winning the league.

It was disappointing though. We had a chance to close down the gap on Chelsea/Liverpool but failed to do so.

Which penalty incident that people are talking about? Was it the Vidic's challange on Agbonlahor? If you're talking about that, then it was never a penalty. Vidic got the ball first.

Vidic was the Man of the Match. He saved our ass from losing the match.

[I.N Extasy]

Which penalty incident that people are talking about? Was it the Vidic's challange on Agbonlahor? If you're talking about that, then it was never a penalty. Vidic got the ball first.

Aye, that's what I was on about.

Vidic was the Man of the Match. He saved our ass from losing the match.

:happy:

[Phil W.A.F.C]

The tackle on Agbonlahor by Vidic was just awesome. How can all the Villa fans appeal for a penalty there? Never was.

[Joel]

Vidic should have been penalised for his challenge on Agbonlahor. Not for the final tackle in the box, but before they got into the box, he was pulling Agbonlahor's shirt as if he wanted to take it off. Should have been a free kick for Villa and a yellow card for Vidic.

[Billy Minof]

Vidic should have been penalised for his challenge on Agbonlahor. Not for the final tackle in the box, but before they got into the box, he was pulling Agbonlahor's shirt as if he wanted to take it off. Should have been a free kick for Villa and a yellow card for Vidic.

And also, if it was at Old Trafford it would have been a penalty. :D (if it was for United of course)

[Meyyappan]

And also, if it was at Old Trafford it would have been a penalty. :D (if it was for United of course)

Exactement.

[vanNistelrooy]

And also, if it was at Old Trafford it would have been a penalty. :D (if it was for United of course)
And also, if it were at The Bernabeu and Real had won 10-0, the manager would have been sacked the following day :D

[vanNistelrooy]

Given the team Chelsea drew with at home? Let me see. Who did you draw the first game of the season at home with?
Considering it was our first game of the season, I didn't expect us to be playing at our best. However you lot seem to be playing very well at the moment, so should have really brushed them aside.

[mufcsean]

I think you are being harsh towards Newcastle. They played very well defensively. It isn't easy to break down a team when they manage to get so many players behind the ball and Coloccini and Bassong were brilliant on Saturday.

Ronaldo could miss Tuesday's game with Villarreal

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_4536495,00.html

Not looking forward to that game at all.

Also anybody read that the other day about Fergie wanting to sign Rossi back, :dribble: YES PLEASE

[Joel]

Considering it was our first game of the season, I didn't expect us to be playing at our best. However you lot seem to be playing very well at the moment, so should have really brushed them aside.

We've been inconsistent at home all season. People were saying that it was a home banker, eithout even taking how we have been playing at home in consideration.

[Top Gun]

I think you are being harsh towards Newcastle. They played very well defensively. It isn't easy to break down a team when they manage to get so many players behind the ball and Coloccini and Bassong were brilliant on Saturday.

Ronaldo could miss Tuesday's game with Villarreal

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11945_4536495,00.html

Not looking forward to that game at all.

Also anybody read that the other day about Fergie wanting to sign Rossi back, :dribble: YES PLEASE

Villarreal aren't exactly flying at the moment themselves.

I'd quite happily take Rossi back and let Tevez go on this season's performances. Would probably save a load of money too.

[mufcsean]

Tevez is excellent, better than Rossi an'all IMO. Tevez just seems to be frustrated which is understandable to be honest.

If were to get rid of anybody i'd get rid of Nani, not happy with him at all.

[Top Gun]

Tevez is frustrated but what is going to change next season if we pay £30m for him? He will still be on the bench most games and I don't think spending £30m on a striker who isn't going to start is worth it. I'm a big fan of his but the money could be spent in better areas. I'd much rather get Rossi back and then give Welbeck and Campbell a chance.

Nani is very frustrating, but he has huge potential and we can't really afford to let him go as our wings are the positions where we have the least amount of cover.

[Phatmann]

Rossi has done well at Villareal but I wouldn't want him back at United. The Spanish league seems to suit him and I can't see him excelling if we get him back. I think you're being a bit harsh on Tevez too as he has been great for us since we signed him on loan and I'd like to see him stay with us for years to come. Berbatov has disappointed me a bit since he joined and I've found myself thinking Tevez could be doing a better job but it's still too early to judge Berbs at the moment.

[Baddar]

Rossi has done well at Villareal but I wouldn't want him back at United. The Spanish league seems to suit him and I can't see him excelling if we get him back. I think you're being a bit harsh on Tevez too as he has been great for us since we signed him on loan and I'd like to see him stay with us for years to come. Berbatov has disappointed me a bit since he joined and I've found myself thinking Tevez could be doing a better job but it's still too early to judge Berbs at the moment.

I think Berba has done better than I expected him to. He's working more than I thought he would, and when he plays, I'm safe in the knowledge that we'll always have that "fox in the box" to finish anything off that drops in front of him.

The problem when Rooney and Tevez plays together is that neither play as a proper striker. When we were pressing to get a goal against Villa on Saturday, you had Tevez drifting out wide way too often, leaving no-one of note in the box.

Tevez and Berba definitely have different qualities, but my preferred two would be Rooney and Berba. I know Fergie has said that Rooney, Berba, Tevez and Ronaldo can't all play at the same time, but I for one would love to see it happen, with Berba being very much the striker, and the other three interchanging between RM, LM and SS.

I suppose Rooney on LM would work best if the four of them played, just to be safe in the knowledge that we'd have a winger tracking back.

[Phatmann]

From the last few games, if you were to drop one of the three strikers it'd be Rooney. He has missed some golden chances recently but I'm sure it's just a patch and I'm sure he'll be back to his best soon enough. Rooney and Berbs is probably the best partnership but for some away games - such as the Arsenal one a few weeks back - I would like to see Rooney and Tevez as the front two.

Fitting Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbs and Tevez all into the starting eleven is tough. As you said though, the best way of doing it would be with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez interchanging between the wings and the supporting striker. That could all get a bit confusing and lead to frustration and might leave us a bit short when the opposition are on the attack.

[Top Gun]

Rossi has done well at Villareal but I wouldn't want him back at United. The Spanish league seems to suit him and I can't see him excelling if we get him back. I think you're being a bit harsh on Tevez too as he has been great for us since we signed him on loan and I'd like to see him stay with us for years to come. Berbatov has disappointed me a bit since he joined and I've found myself thinking Tevez could be doing a better job but it's still too early to judge Berbs at the moment.

I'm just going on this season's performances so far, he just hasn't looked interested. I admit he was superb last season but he wasn't competing against Berbatov for a place. Even if he can get back to last season's standard I'm not convinced shelling out £30m on a guy who isn't even guaranteed a starting place, is wise.

From the last few games, if you were to drop one of the three strikers it'd be Rooney. He has missed some golden chances recently but I'm sure it's just a patch and I'm sure he'll be back to his best soon enough. Rooney and Berbs is probably the best partnership but for some away games - such as the Arsenal one a few weeks back - I would like to see Rooney and Tevez as the front two.

Fitting Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbs and Tevez all into the starting eleven is tough. As you said though, the best way of doing it would be with Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez interchanging between the wings and the supporting striker. That could all get a bit confusing and lead to frustration and might leave us a bit short when the opposition are on the attack.

For me, if Rooney is fit, he plays. Even when not scoring he gives so much to the side.

[skullverine]

I'm just going on this season's performances so far, he just hasn't looked interested. I admit he was superb last season but he wasn't competing against Berbatov for a place. Even if he can get back to last season's standard I'm not convinced shelling out £30m on a guy who isn't even guaranteed a starting place, is wise.





He also has off-field problems. There are reports/photos of him showing he's cheating on his wife.

[Mullet Taylor]

i know why berbatov usually doesn't look interested. He is clearly depressed about his High Hairline and dwells in the fact he'll be bald in a few years - Poor chap :(

[skullverine]

i know why berbatov usually doesn't look interested. He is clearly depressed about his High Hairline and dwells in the fact he'll be bald in a few years - Poor chap :(

:erm: Aren't we talking about Tevez?

[AgentZero]

been on holidays down at the beach and just seen the highlights.For the chances we had they involved several sexy football build ups, i liek the way we were playing.

[Billy Minof]

Send Tevez to Madrid lads or any of your strikers, we havent a fit one at our club ATM. lol.

[mufcsean]

You can have Manucho if you want.

I read Ronaldo has begged to play tonight :erm:
Also read we want to recall Campbell back in January :lol: That'd really piss Spurs off

[Figо10]

I read Ronaldo has begged to play tonight :erm:
Best bet will be to start with him and take him off when the game's in the bag, rather than introduce him when it's too late and too difficult to make a difference.

Campbell back when we have Wellbeck performing well and Tevez on the bench? :huh:

[mufcsean]

:faceplm: I know.

[skullverine]

Van der Sar and Neville aren't traveling. I'd start with Foster in goal and Rafael at right back.

[Phatmann]

Oh god. Kuszczak to start and give away a pen? :(

Would be good to see Rafael start in a game like this though but I'm not sure if Fergie will play such an inexperienced player in an away game in the Champions League.

[skullverine]

He started at Parkhead. Since you mention Kuszczak, I have a feeling that Sir Alex will start him just because he didn't play against Celtic.

[I.N Extasy]

I hope Kushion doesn't fuck things up tonight.

[Top Gun]

Jonny Evans looks so comfortable in the side and he's only 20. I can see why Pique was allowed to leave now.

[skullverine]

I'm impressed with his performance so far. I hope he has the patience to wait for first team opportunities.

[wrathchild_uk]

Manchester United have gained a work permit for Serbian international winger Zoran Tosic.

Reports emerged earlier this week suggesting United were lining up a move for the 21-year-old left-winger.

Now it has been confirmed by United that they have indeed won their battle to get a permit for Tosic - who had not played enough games to automatically qualify to play in England.

A United delegation, including Sir Alex Ferguson, attended the work-permit hearing in Sheffield and they successfully argued Tosic should be allowed to play in the England League.

The Partizan Belgrade wide-man now looks set to arrive at Old Trafford when - although details of the deal have not been disclosed.

United have issued a statement confirming that they had gained the permit but no deal for the player would be completed until 1st January, when the transfer window re-opens.

Tosic, who has 12 caps to his name, will become the second Serbian at United, joining fellow countryman Nemanja Vidic.

It is also believed that the Tosic deal could also include Adem Ljajic. The 19-year-old Partizan starlet has been on trial at the club recently and is understood to have impressed Ferguson and his staff.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_4561016,00.html

[skullverine]

Seems like we're lining up for Ronaldo's replacement.

What's your prediction for the derby? I think it'll be a score draw or a City win. I can't see United winning this one due to the poor away record this season and City having a very good record against United at the Eastlands. I hope I'm wrong though.

[wrathchild_uk]

I just have my doubts for us beating City..last year we dominated the game at there place and they still won the match...and based on our away form so far it doesn't look good, lets just hope we can turn it around though on sun.

[Guillermo]

Seems like we're lining up for Ronaldo's replacement.

I see him as Giggs' long awaited replacement for the left wing.

[mufcsean]

Great news about Tosic, hopefully he is better than Nani.

I am really not looking forward to Sunday

[I.N Extasy]

The pessimism around these parts have started making me feel confident about the derby.

:tumble:

[Don Sweey]

Expect Tosic to take his time adjusting. He isn't used to playing regularly against opponents of a decent standard.

[wrathchild_uk]

For sure i think in time we'll be able to see if he's any good, obviously playing in a much stronger league will be tough and not only that..but will he be able to cope with the pressures of playing for Utd...

[AgentZero]

if hes got any bit of tha serbian determination like vida hed be an exciting find. Dunno who he is and haven't seen any matches. Only thing i do know is hes a dead ball specialist, migh even knock ronaldo of his perch?? And yeh definately another replacement for giggs.

[Don Sweey]

if hes got any bit of tha serbian determination like vida hed be an exciting find. Dunno who he is and haven't seen any matches. Only thing i do know is hes a dead ball specialist, migh even knock ronaldo of his perch?? And yeh definately another replacement for giggs.

You're missing an awfully big point: Vidic had been good for years except that none of you follow the Serbian league and therefore had no idea. Tosic, though clearly talented, hasn't been professional long. He impressed Partizan while at Banat Zrenjanin and while doing well with clearly the country's strongest team, look at Partizan's European results this season.

[ATH10]

[QUOTE=Don Sweey;1386821]none of you follow the Serbian leagueQUOTE]

Do you then?

[Don Sweey]

Do you then?

Yes, hence my post.

:huh:

[ATH10]

Where/how do you watch coverage of the Serbian league?

[Don Sweey]

Where/how do you watch coverage of the Serbian league?

With great difficulty. Poor quality streams mainly via skill and luck.

[Mullet Taylor]

haa fk sake. the first i've heard of this guy... looking forward to the game on sunday now. Watched a few clips on youtube about him there and he obviously has the ability to be a crowd pleaser :)

[mufcsean]

He isn't playing on Sunday, he hasn't joined us yet

[Mullet Taylor]

He isn't playing on Sunday, he hasn't joined us yet

pish :(

[wrathchild_uk]

I remember watching vids of Nani on youtube when we signed him and thought he looked amazing..so i think i'll wait to see Tosic actually play first rather than watch videos..

[skullverine]

Great result. What a way of scoring your 100th career goals. Rafael didn't play badly for his first derby game.

That second yellow of Ronaldo was stupid. He should have headed the ball instead of parrying it away - despite of whether he heard a whistle or not. However, he was lucky enough to stay on the pitch when he gave a sarcastic applause to the ref for his first yellow.

Park was the Man of the Match for me, followed by Evra.

[I.N Extasy]

This win is the confidence boost we needed. I'm over the fucking top tonight!

Park was the Man of the Match for me, followed by Evra.

The French of Canal + (I believe that's it) "awarded" Rooney the Man of the Match.

[wrathchild_uk]

Like i said in the City i thread i think the ref was poor...Rafael got booked for throwing the ball away but he won the ball in the first place before that. Ok you can't really argue with Ronaldo's second yellow but his first was harsh...i dunno if its cus Webb is an ex pig but he just seems such a petty ref.

[TheBishop]

Evra was brilliant today, especially in the 1st half. Your gonna miss him when you play Spurs. His performance today reafirmed my thinking that he's the best left back in World football at present.

[Top Gun]

The game was won in the midfield today, Carrick and Fletcher were great. I was worried about Ireland going into today's game but he was kept very quiet.

[TheBishop]

Yeah i was impressed with Carrick today too. Man Utd's first half performance was the best I've seen from them this season.

[RB14 ARSENAL]

I thought Rooney had a fantastic game today. Forget Ronaldo being your star player. It's definately Rooney this year. He was great from start to finish. Was in the right place at the right time for that easy goal. And he looked very hungry and strong (like usual). His work rate is great and he always gives his all. That effort late on (when Joe Hart went up for the corner, last chance for City) was sublime. Great precision and composure to pinpoint it with accuracy. Hart only just got hand onto it, Swp was there behind him so maybe he would've cleared it?.

I especially liked the moment when Wayne was winding the City fans up, pointing to the arm of his United shirt. Was priceless :chanlaugh:

[vanNistelrooy]

He would have scored too if Giggs hadn't played the ball behind him.

[mufcsean]

What the fuck was Ronaldo doing. Why not just head the ball and find out if the ref blew the whistle afterwords.

Giggs' pass to Rooney at the end was awful, he should have put it in front of Rooney.

Great performance from Evra again. One of our best players this season, Carrick was brilliant again also today.

The referee was awful an'all, no consistency what so ever.

[Mullet Taylor]

On this form, it is clear that Messi is the best attacking player in the world at this moment of this

If that happened last year with Ronaldo, he woulda burried it with ease, then looked to see if a reff blowed for a foul/offside

I'm amazed at Darren Fletcher still getting first team starts. Proper kick in the balls to giggs and John O'Shea.

When is scholes back ?

[mufcsean]

Scholes should be back in the next weeks apparently

[Mullet Taylor]

where was Neville today ? surely he's not injured again. A good thing he didn't play probably but still...think of the amount he costs United.

He'll defo be the first one to retire out of the 3 old boys

Giggs looks most likely to last the longest out the 3, but Scholes might surprise a few people

[mufcsean]

Neville has been shite since coming back, don't know where he is and to be honest i don't care where he is as long as he isn't on the field.

Scholes will last longer than Giggs, wouldn't surprise me at all if Giggs retired at the end of this season, especially if we win something big

[skullverine]

On this form, it is clear that Messi is the best attacking player in the world at this moment of this

If that happened last year with Ronaldo, he woulda burried it with ease, then looked to see if a reff blowed for a foul/offside

I'm amazed at Darren Fletcher still getting first team starts. Proper kick in the balls to giggs and John O'Shea.

When is scholes back ?

Of course he's getting a place in the first eleven. Giggs and O'shea aren't natural centre midfielders. Anderson seems to perform better in a 3 man midfield, which we rarely use.

If Fletcher continues his good form, I hope he will not be dropped to make way for Scholes when he comes back.

As for Neville, I'm glad that he was not in the squad. He's been shite in the big games this season.

[Meyyappan]

What the fuck was Ronaldo doing. Why not just head the ball and find out if the ref blew the whistle afterwords.

Giggs' pass to Rooney at the end was awful, he should have put it in front of Rooney.

Great performance from Evra again. One of our best players this season, Carrick was brilliant again also today.

The referee was awful an'all, no consistency what so ever.

Or Giggs should have had a shot himself

[mufcsean]

Giggs wouldn't have been able to reach the goal from that far out

[AgentZero]

awful red card..surely in the grand scheme of things there would be no reason for ron to handle an attacking cross, unless he was argentinian...but rules are rules and he did get a yellow but im sure webb could of let it slide considering it wasn't as silly as scholes'

[Top Gun]

We've now played last season's top 9, away from home.

Of course he's getting a place in the first eleven. Giggs and O'shea aren't natural centre midfielders. Anderson seems to perform better in a 3 man midfield, which we rarely use.

If Fletcher continues his good form, I hope he will not be dropped to make way for Scholes when he comes back.

As for Neville, I'm glad that he was not in the squad. He's been shite in the big games this season.

If Rafael keeps performing and Neville picks up another serious injury I would expect to see him retire, these injuries have pretty much ruined him unfortunately. Even if he doesn't I expect Rio to be made captain at the start of next season.

[vanNistelrooy]

We've now played last season's top 9, away from home.
Most of which follow a Champions League game too.

"Random" my arse.

[wrathchild_uk]

To be honest i think if Neville hadn't been at the club for so long we wud have let him go by now..

[Meyyappan]

We've now played last season's top 9, away from home.



If Rafael keeps performing and Neville picks up another serious injury I would expect to see him retire, these injuries have pretty much ruined him unfortunately. Even if he doesn't I expect Rio to be made captain at the start of next season.

Portsmouth
Aston Villa
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Everton

Who have i missed??

We have played them too but home so you guys shall be good for the second half.

You guys are my favourites

[TheBishop]

Blackburn. Haven't played Spurs yet but are soon.

[I.N Extasy]

Portsmouth
Aston Villa
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Everton

Who have i missed??

We have played them too but home so you guys shall be good for the second half.

You guys are my favourites

"That was just a dream?"

[Top Gun]

Portsmouth
Aston Villa
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Everton

Who have i missed??

We have played them too but home so you guys shall be good for the second half.

You guys are my favourites

You missed Blackburn and Man City.

Thankfully Ronaldo's ban will stand for the Blackburn game on Wednesday so he will be back for Sunderland.

[skullverine]

My local TV station is finally showing a United league cup game. I'm looking forward to see the likes of Welbeck and Possebon in action.

[Meyyappan]

Giggs wouldn't have been able to reach the goal from that far out

Beckham scored one with the keeper a bit off the line,so why cant giggs?

[mufcsean]

Beckham and Giggs are different players you know? And Beckham did it about 10 years ago, Giggs has never had a powerful shot, and probably wouldn't have been able to reach the goal from the distance he was at.

[wrathchild_uk]

Whats up with sky never showing any of our league cup games..they seem to show Arsenal and Spurs every fucking round..

[greenegg]

Whats up with sky never showing any of our league cup games..they seem to show Arsenal and Spurs every fucking round..

BBC love Manure. I remember one FA Cup campaign you were on TV every round!

[Guillermo]

BBC love Manure. I remember one FA Cup campaign you were on TV every round!

That was probably 2006/7 season where we had a Prem team every match.

[I.N Extasy]

Simpson won't be playing tonight. (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6623442) How's he faring at Blackburn?

There's a possibility that Scholes will play a bit tonight. (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6623475) Ferguson says he's training well.
I'd like to see him given some play time. I hope he gets back to his former self, we'll need his experience in our side this season. He also provides that bit of a spark which is a bonus.
Fingers crossed he doesn't fuck anything up if he ever plays tonight.

Oh, and Ronaldo won the Ballon d'Or by the way.

[greenegg]

That was probably 2006/7 season where we had a Prem team every match.

Maybe but so what, we see Prem teams week in week out. The FA Cup is about the Minnows and the Magic. Fair enough if ManYoo had Curzon Ashton or Excretia, you know some abomination of a team.

[AgentZero]

this results gives fergie a bit of a headache upfront...should tevez be benched still?

[mufcsean]

Tevez was brilliant tonight. Anderson was outstanding though.

What was Foster doing for Macarthys second?

[skullverine]

That was Tevez' best performance in United shirt so far. That build-up to his 3rd goal was brilliant. Credit to Anderson because he wasn't selfish.

Neville was at fault for two of Blackburn's goals.

[Wan]

Agreed. With this kind of performance, he deserves more first team actions.

[Meyyappan]

Good on you guys i think you will get the mickey mouse cup back

[vanNistelrooy]

Gary Neville :faceplm:

[Baddar]

Good on you guys i think you will get the mickey mouse cup back

Never means much when you're out, does it?

Always means something when the media are masturbating over the Arsenal youngsters. Was nice to see them get their annual beat-down though, I must say.

[Dragonfly]

Your third goal was beautiful watch. Excellent football!

You cunts.

[Figо10]

Nike To Push Ronaldo Towards Inter?

The sports giant, who sponsors the player, wants him to join Zlatan Ibrahimovic at Inter as they attempt a marketing coup...

Inter may find it easier to make a move for Cristiano Ronaldo after one of the club's sponsors, American sportswear giant Nike, backed the plans.

The Nerazzurri have been linked with the Manchester United ace and 2008 Ballon d'Or winner as Jose Mourinho looks to bring in his fellow countryman.

Ronaldo failed to move to Real Madrid in the summer, despite mega offers coming his way. Perhaps the reason behind the Primera Division side's failure is because their shirt makers are Adidas. Ronaldo wears Nike football boots and so there was a problem.

Nevertheless, Il Corriere Dello Sport claims that Nike are trying to push Ronaldo to sign for Inter and a mega sponsorship deal for both club and player is on the cards.

The sports company want to pair Zlatan Ibrahimovic with the Portugal international in an attempt to create a dream pairing at the club as both players are sponsored by them.

Nike are looking at the potential benefits in terms of a marketing strategy as they sponsor the Nerazzurri and it would be a major coup if the company had two Nike sponsored players playing for a team who also carries the famous swoosh logo.

The Italian club's main sponsor Pirelli has pumped more money in to help with their plans for Ronnie and, if Nike begin to push, the United star could soon be wearing the black and blue jersey.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/1707/inter/2008/12/04/995787/nike-to-push-ronaldo-towards-inter

Might be missing something here, but the last time I checked United are still sponsored by Nike? :unsure:

[TheBishop]

Never means much when you're out, does it?

Always means something when the media are masturbating over the Arsenal youngsters. Was nice to see them get their annual beat-down though, I must say.

The reason the media go on about our youngsters is because it is so rare to see players of that age, playing the football they do and being given a chance, playing for a big club, to show what they can do. Which other top club in Europe would you see something similar?

[fick]

The reason the media go on about our youngsters is because it is so rare to see players of that age, playing the football they do and being given a chance, playing for a big club, to show what they can do. Which other top club in Europe would you see something similar?

I was under the impression Arsenal play their youngsters in cup games due to a shit depth of squad. Doesn't matter how you dress is up, choices are limited.

Not bashing Arsenal, but it was nice to see Burnley take yet another scalp. Love the underdog winning in cup games.

[Baddar]

United, Liverpool and other PL teams play youngsters in the Carling Cup/early rounds of the FA Cup. Not to the extent of Arsenal, but they still play them.

Rafael, Possebon, Evans and Gibson all played a part last night and all are relatively young.

My point wasn't that the media wrongfully praise them, it was the "Mickey Mouse Cup" comment, from an Arsenal fan who is more than happy to see his youngsters do well in the competition and talk them up, but then disregard how worthy it is the second they go out.

[arsenald]

i respect arsene, but i believe this year arsenal NEED to win something!!

he should be going out to win trophys now, and be fielding his top players, if needs be.

lets face it were aint gonna win the league, CL looks unrealistic .....
these smaller cups we should be trying to win...

[TheBishop]

United, Liverpool and other PL teams play youngsters in the Carling Cup/early rounds of the FA Cup. Not to the extent of Arsenal, but they still play them.

Rafael, Possebon, Evans and Gibson all played a part last night and all are relatively young.

My point wasn't that the media wrongfully praise them, it was the "Mickey Mouse Cup" comment, from an Arsenal fan who is more than happy to see his youngsters do well in the competition and talk them up, but then disregard how worthy it is the second they go out.

Fair enough. I don't agree about calling it the Mickey Mouse Cup either, just look at the recent winners. Man Utd, Chelsea, Spurs. Though I do believe the Carling Cup is more important for teams who aren't guarenteed a place in Europe through the league.

@ fick. Come to think of it, your right. The youngsters basically are our reserve players who are challenging for 1st team places. But in previous seasons, it hasn't been the case but because we have so little experienced players in our squad now, it seems the case now.

I do too like underdogs winning, just not against Arsenal. :(