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Those sort of display's are almost expected of Carrick now, he's become one of our best players.
The defence was pretty good again, although there wasn't a huge threat tbf. To get the world record we need to keep a clean sheet for the West Ham game and then 60 minutes of the Fulham game, that would be truly amazing.
I can really see us scoring after 58 minutes or so and losing 4-1. That would annoy me more than losing 4-0 as I love Edwin.
AgentZero
02-02-2009, 21:38
inter offloaded Quaresma and Dacourt...i know theyre nothin players but lets hope for an injury crisis now.
Carrick was brilliant today, shame that volley didn't go in.
It's good to Ronaldo smiling again, he actually looks interested now.
Really glad VDS broke another record today, hopefully we can extend it further next week but that is going to a tough game.
carrick was poor against arsenal(didn't track nasri back for second goal amongst other things) but he has been fantastic since then which has coincided with the good run. I love the way he links up with berbatov and he seems to have more grit these days
Is anybody else annoyed that Evra gets a 4 match ban for what was essentially handbags caught on a dodgy CCTV camera, yet Bosingwa gets nothing for stamping on another players back in front of the Sky Sports cameras?
Phatmann
03-02-2009, 21:13
Is anybody else annoyed that Evra gets a 4 match ban for what was essentially handbags caught on a dodgy CCTV camera, yet Bosingwa gets nothing for stamping on another players back in front of the Sky Sports cameras?
It's annoying but a decision on what Bosingwa did was already made on the pitch by the linesman and that can't be changed. Evras 4 match ban seemed harsh but I've not really seen the incident, but as it wasn't during a match it didn't really make any sense.
Foxhound
04-02-2009, 05:51
Is anybody else annoyed that Evra gets a 4 match ban for what was essentially handbags caught on a dodgy CCTV camera, yet Bosingwa gets nothing for stamping on another players back in front of the Sky Sports cameras?
I haven't seen the stamp yet, but was it worse than the Rooney "stamp" against Aalborg?
I'm annoyed to the FA because the Evra incident occurred in April, but it took them months before making a decision.
@ Phatmann
The decision to send Lampard off was already made on the pitch, yet that got overturned. So why not revisit the decision not to send Monobrow off?
@ Skullverine
It wasn't as "bad" as Rooney's, but it was definately more blatent.
Phatmann
04-02-2009, 10:03
I didn't say I agree with it but you're not allowed to look back on a game and give players red cards but you are allowed to take the red cards away. How the ref AND the linesman failed to see such a blatant red card, I'll never know. Linesmen get a lot of stick and you can see why when they miss blatant incidents such as that.
Evras 4 match ban still doesn't make any sense to me. Does anyone know what the official reason for him getting a 4 match ban was?
AgentZero
04-02-2009, 10:39
yeh i must vent my frustration at the inconsistency of penalties handed out. Especially seeing as Evra got a 4 match ban for something outside of the match surely normal civillian punishment would of been sufficient like community hours and/or fine. Whereas Bosingwa getting the four match ban for an in match incident would of been appropriate.
Foxhound
04-02-2009, 13:23
Evras 4 match ban still doesn't make any sense to me. Does anyone know what the official reason for him getting a 4 match ban was?
An FA regulatory commission ruled that Evra had pushed Bethell, struck the groundsman on the side of the head and confronted him again, triggering another altercation with the Chelsea employee.
Evra was allegedly racially abused by the Chelsea's groundsman, causing him to react.
AgentZero
05-02-2009, 00:49
i think ronaldo turns 24 today. Hoepfully he'll round it off with another brace this weekend.
Phatmann
05-02-2009, 08:32
We've got Derby away in the next round of the FA Cup. Let's not mess it up like we did last time we played them away.
Foxhound
05-02-2009, 10:27
I never realized that Tevez & Ronaldo share the same birthday.
wrathchild_uk
05-02-2009, 11:30
So how is that Wright-Phillips is now in trouble for kicking Delap yet Bosingwa got away with his stamp??
So how is that Wright-Phillips is now in trouble for kicking Delap yet Bosingwa got away with his stamp??
So how is that relevant to this thread?
Bosingwa got away with it and the decision was wrong. Get over it.
wrathchild_uk
05-02-2009, 12:03
So how is that relevant to this thread?
Bosingwa got away with it and the decision was wrong. Get over it.
Maybe because others were talking about it above..
sukhy2004
05-02-2009, 15:43
we always struggle away at West Ham, hopefully we can take all 3 points on Sunday, I wouldn't care if it was 0-1 again
Wouldn't be too surprised if United end their run of clean sheets at Upton Park, even if they're looking to play for the 1-0.
Billy Minof
06-02-2009, 13:05
I see United are trying to sign Valencia from Wigan, as a replacement for Ronaldo or just an addition to the squad?
Foxhound
06-02-2009, 13:17
I see United are trying to sign Valencia from Wigan, as a replacement for Ronaldo or just an addition to the squad?
I'd wait and see how well Tosic fit in. If Ronaldo leaves, we still have Nani ( I still have faith in him)
Dragonfly
06-02-2009, 13:22
If you sell Ronaldo, you'll receive a lot of money for him, which you'll probably spend on a replacement of the same quality/potential.
I think this Valencia stuff is all just speculation, from what I heard Madrid are the only team to put in a bid. I hope so anyway, I would rather give Nani a chance.
There's only a few players who could go some way to replacing Ronaldo, top of the list for me would be Ribery and David Silva. These are the one's who are likely to be available.
Billy Minof
06-02-2009, 14:35
I think this Valencia stuff is all just speculation, from what I heard Madrid are the only team to put in a bid. I hope so anyway, I would rather give Nani a chance.
There's only a few players who could go some way to replacing Ronaldo, top of the list for me would be Ribery and David Silva. These are the one's who are likely to be available.
David Silva is a totally different type of player, more of a playmaker.
Ribery is also a different type of player than Ronaldo and someone I would prefer Madrid to sign.
Madrid also didnt put in a bid for Valencia, they wanted him on loan for the rest of the season with the option to buy.
I also like Nani and I think that with a run of games he would be a very good player, if was with someone in Spain like Valencia/Seville he would be awesome.
AgentZero
06-02-2009, 22:56
cant replace ronaldo but if he goes only player id like to see wear that jersey is Ashley Young.
cant replace ronaldo but if he goes only player id like to see wear that jersey is Ashley Young.
Not a bad shout actually, already very well adapted to the English league, the only downside to it really is that if we sell Ronaldo, it's obvious that Aston Villa would want about about £30m for Young.
mufcsean
07-02-2009, 00:36
cant replace ronaldo but if he goes only player id like to see wear that jersey is Ashley Young.
I'd love to see him playing for us but he is hardly a replacement for Ronaldo, but saying that not many people are.
Billy Minof
07-02-2009, 10:48
I'd love to see him playing for us but he is hardly a replacement for Ronaldo, but saying that not many people are.
Why not just go for Messi, he would flourish under Fergie. :ninja:
Nani has bags of potential and deserves a little more time to see if he can fulfill it. He has barely played this season, so it is unfair to say that he ain't up to it just yet. Ronaldo was once the weak forgien winger who delivered very little end product, done one too many flicks n' tricks, ran himself into alleys, but scored the odd goal. That is Nani, now. The difference is that Ronaldo got more games in his early United days, mostly due to our lack of wide players at the time. Beckham had just been sold. And Solskjaer, who was then playing wide-right more often than centre forward, suffered a severe long-term injury. Ryan Giggs, had the left-flank sewn up, and Quinten Fortune was as injury prone as they came. Kleberson, nor Bellion, exactly posed any threat out wide, either, so Ronaldo played.
Nani faces much stiffer competition. Giggs was playing left-flank often enough, right up until last season. Ronaldo owns the right-flank. And, when fit, Park was the unquestionable second choice, and now first choice on the left. Added to that there is now Tosic to contend with. Good players shine through, no matter what, but Nani who is not very indifferent to early days Ronaldo, and had a similar first season, has not got that valuable playing time this season. He has played maybe eight league games. Twenty odd in total, in all competitions, scoring five goals. Ronaldo, in his second season played fifty games, and scored nine.
Nani needs to show more, but it's a harder team to break into now.
You make some excellent points there winger, you really do!
Kinda makes me wonder why he hasnt let nani go out on loan, get some better experience...even if it is abroad
Foxhound
07-02-2009, 14:35
You make some excellent points there winger, you really do!
Kinda makes me wonder why he hasnt let nani go out on loan, get some better experience...even if it is abroad
There's no way that Sir Alex will let him go on loan. He only does that to youngsters.
Nani needs to improve on his decision making. There are times when he should've passed/crossed the ball, instead, he decided to do some tricks or take a shot, which often flies like a balloon.
The Messiah
08-02-2009, 17:22
Booyah! Giggs.
Giggs has been unreal this season. Lovely goal, nice pass from Scholes as well. If we win the league this year those two could prove to be the difference between us and the rest.
Oh, and another clean sheet. Rafael looks better and better each game, him and Fabio could go on to be the best in the world.
Heard Fabio is better than Rafael.
I thought we played well enough to at least get a draw. But that defence of yours looks so hard to break down.
You guys were very impressive, the hardest game we've had in a while. Savio looks like a tidy little player and Behrami impressed me, when he first came over I thought he was one of these flashy gits but he works his bollocks off and is good on the ball.
You guys were very impressive, the hardest game we've had in a while.
Yep. We've had a lot of 1-0 victories recently where the scoreline doesn't really reflect our dominance, but that match was very tight. You could tell most of the United players were knackered trying to keep West Ham at bay.
Delighted with the win and clean sheet. On paper, that was possibly the hardest away game we have remaining, so it's great to be back on top. I'm certain we'll have a little slump at some stage though, so hopefully we'll have a big enough lead by then.
I love Giggs. Gonna shed a tear when he retires. ;[
Mullet Taylor
08-02-2009, 19:33
Giggs has been much better season than Ronaldo thus far
Ronaldo better start owning again during the Champions League
mufcsean
08-02-2009, 22:30
Giggs is just unbelievable. What a lovely finish and what a great ball by Scholes.
Simply outstanding that we have lept another clean sheet. Will we hold the world record if we keep a clean sheet next game?
Rafael was excellent again, can't wait to see him and Fabio on the pitch together.
West Ham made it very hard for us today all credit to them, Behrami in particular. He and Collison were brilliant.
Mullet Taylor
08-02-2009, 22:33
Evra will have something to say about Fabio getting into the side !
Utd are blessed with Left backs though. Normally a bastard position to fill and they have Evra, Fabio and big O'Shea who does the job. Even Silvestre could play left back. Not to mention Heinze.
Can anyone picture Henize in the current Liverpool team ? I wonder if that woulda been for better or worse
Great finish by gigs though. Love seeing him still playing
Vitumbiko
08-02-2009, 23:33
Giggs is just unbelievable. What a lovely finish and what a great ball by Scholes.
Simply outstanding that we have lept another clean sheet. Will we hold the world record if we keep a clean sheet next game?
Rafael was excellent again, can't wait to see him and Fabio on the pitch together.
West Ham made it very hard for us today all credit to them, Behrami in particular. He and Collison were brilliant.
Every one says he is the better one out of the two (Rafael and Him) is that true?
mufcsean
08-02-2009, 23:35
I havent seen enough of him to say whether thats true or not. Though a lot of people say it.
Fabio certainly looked lively on his debut. I think if both are fit at the time, they'll play together against Derby in the FA Cup. At least, I hope they do.
Mullet Taylor
08-02-2009, 23:40
in pes i bought the Silva Twins. One is a better defender and one is a better attacker. I can't mind which was which but is this the case irl ? Is one a better defender/attacker than the other ?
Luis_Garcia
08-02-2009, 23:41
Evra is incredible. Thought I'd share that bit of inside knowledge with you.
Good result for yous guys. But must say Behrami was very very impressive, and Carlton
in pes i bought the Silva Twins. One is a better defender and one is a better attacker. I can't mind which was which but is this the case irl ? Is one a better defender/attacker than the other ?
Again, they can't really be compared yet as Rafael's play a hell of a lot more than Fabio. I do know that Rafael is better going forward than he is a defender, at least at the moment. That isn't too much of a worry though, as you get that with a lot of right/left-backs.
No one knows mate, Fabio is like a ninja, we never see him. Think of him as Sayid from Lost.
It will definetely be interesting to see them both develop though, and will be a thing of beauty to watch them both on the same pitch, and maybe even both the best full backs in the world some time.
Mullet Taylor
08-02-2009, 23:49
How long before Fergie retires ? If Fergie did go, alot of his good work would become undone. New manager would come in, try spice things up etc.... who could even manager Utd ? martin o'neil ? Carlos Queiroz ? Steve Bruce ?
Evra is 27, so you would think he would be first choice for at least another 3,4 maybe 5 years. Fabio may have to be patient, maybe go out on loan next season for some regular football.
mufcsean
08-02-2009, 23:51
How long before Fergie retires ? If Fergie did go, alot of his good work would become undone. New manager would come in, try spice things up etc.... who could even manager Utd ? martin o'neil ? Carlos Queiroz ? Steve Bruce ?
Hopefully not anytime soon.
It wouldn't surprise me if Mourinho took over to be honest.
Mullet Taylor
08-02-2009, 23:53
yeah i was gonna type jose into that list but i dunno if hes hated by United fans
my word i thought Evra was 25. makes no difference but i thought he was younger
I always thought Hughes would replace Fergie but now, for obvious reasons, I can't see it happening.
mufcsean
08-02-2009, 23:57
I hated him when he was at Chelsea but that was becuase he was so good to be honest :lol:
There are a lot of reasons why i can see him coming,
He and Fergie are friends and Fergie would probably recommend him
He said he would love to come back to England and beat Chelsea, we are his bets chance of that :D
He has mentioned he likes us
and probably the best reason, he is a brilliant manager and only a few are better.
I always thought Hughes would replace Fergie but now, for obvious reasons, I can't see it happening.
Me too, on both points
I think Steve Bruce would be a logical and good choice. The work he's done for lesser teams like Birmingham and now Wigan, surely only a matter of time before he gets a real big job. He'd deserve it.
yeah i was gonna type jose into that list but i dunno if hes hated by United fans
I don't see why United fans would go as far as to say that they "hate" Jose. Yes, his run down the line at Porto pissed me off, but he's a fantastic manager, and the PL is worse off without him.
When he left Chelsea, and Quieroz was about to head off to Portugal, I was quietly hoping he'd join up with Fergie. Wasn't ever gonna happen, but that would've been great.
I do think if the United job did become available, Mourinho would be interested. Very interested.
Mullet Taylor
09-02-2009, 00:03
i once heard Jose saying he doesn't want to become an old manager. He wants to retire in mid 50's probably
Fergie still has a few years left on the clock
Would inter let Jose go ?
Steve Bruce for Newcastle !
How long before Fergie retires?
I thought he may have done at the end of last season, but as of now I'm thinking end of next. I'm sure he'll wants to surpass Liverpool's title tally, so maybe 2 more years after this. But no longer.
I'm sure Fabio was the top scorer of a youth international tournament a year or two back. He played left wing then.
For me it'd be Martin O'Neil he's done well at every club he's been at believes in youth development and seems to get on with player and get respect from them also.
The Messiah
09-02-2009, 00:05
SAF will try to beat Liverpools record then retire. Moyes will be the manager.
AgentZero
09-02-2009, 01:04
id would rather a familiar face that knows this current crop...hence my choice of manager is Quieroz
Mullet Taylor
09-02-2009, 01:12
i think o'neil should get it. O'neil is very well known for taking players hes already worked with to his new club.... would the Utd faithful be against having Ashley Young on the left and Ronaldo on the right ?
Martin O'Neill, Mourinho, Moyes or Quieroz would be pretty decent replacements.
I'm sure Fabio was the top scorer of a youth international tournament a year or two back. He played left wing then.
He was the captain for Brazil at the Under-17 World Cup and he was the teams top goalscorer with 3 but not the whole tournament. He scored a couple of freekicks if I remember correctly.
AgentZero
09-02-2009, 01:21
brings me to my next poitn...when will Anderson start scoring? I know its rather rare in this United team for cms to score but he's been evry close a few times, i feel like when he does start bang them in itll lift his confidence and maybe we can see glimmer of his potential.
Foxhound
09-02-2009, 07:59
id would rather a familiar face that knows this current crop...hence my choice of manager is Quieroz
Quieroz - Very good Assistant Manager, but shit as a Manager.
Supposedly, Fabio is the better attacker.
brings me to my next poitn...when will Anderson start scoring?
When he learns not to lean back when shooting. I haven't seen such poor accuracy since Jason (pineapple head) Lee...
sukhy2004
10-02-2009, 18:23
Anderson has terrible shooting and finishing! He doesn't know when to shoot either!
Ryan Giggs has signed a one-year contract extension that will keep him at Manchester United until 2010.
The 35-year-old winger, whose previous deal was set to end in June, has made a record 787 appearances for United since making his debut in 1991.
The Welshman's new contract at Old Trafford will run until only a few months short of his 37th birthday.
"I feel fit and I'm enjoying my football more than ever," Giggs told United's official website.
"This is an exciting young team and the spirit is great in the dressing room. I want to be a part of that and achieve even more success," he added.
Giggs is United's most decorated player having won 10 Premier League titles, two Champions League titles, four FA Cups and two League Cups.
His goal against West Ham on Sunday made him the only player to have scored in all 17 Premier League seasons.
He made a club record 759th appearance in May's Champions League final win over Chelsea, surpassing Bobby Charlton.
"Ryan is a true professional of the game; his lifestyle, the way he looks after himself, his desire to always want to win is a credit to him and also an inspiration to any young kid who wants to become a footballer," said United boss Sir Alex Ferguson.
"He is like a young boy in the way that he plays and, although he wants to play every game, he understands that by using his experience when it matters is a benefit to him and the team.
"It would be easy for him to be complacent after all he has achieved but he isn't and that speaks volumes of why the club wanted to extend his services and use that experience."
Giggs retired from international football in 2007 after making his 64th appearance for Wales in order to prolong his club career.
Was only a matter of time after his performances this season. :) :) :)
The Messiah
12-02-2009, 13:43
All we need now is for Tevez to sign.
Who would you rather we tried to sign Tevez, Benzema or Villa?
The Messiah
12-02-2009, 13:55
Benzema for the goals plus he's young or Dong.
mufcsean
12-02-2009, 20:37
Who would you rather we tried to sign Tevez, Benzema or Villa?
Villa would be extremely tempting but Tevez has done so much for us i think it would be extremely unfair, and stupid to be honest, not to sign him.
If you are wondering why i said stupid, we already know he is proven in England, he has a good understanding of the game here and works well with the squad we already have and wouldn't need to forge a new relationship with players.
As much as Tevez has impressed me over the past few weeks I still think the other two would be better options. Villa and Benzema are both something different to what we have, Tevez is too similar to Rooney. Don't get me wrong, I would be happy if we signed Tevez up but I would love it if we signed one of the other two.
Fabio scored for the reserves tonight.
AgentZero
13-02-2009, 01:16
I would love if Tevez signs for us...with hsi fee at least hes proven. Whereas wed taking a hug egamble with Benzema or Villa.
Im a big fan of Gourcuff, i hope that satrts to snowball soon.
Who would you rather we tried to sign Tevez, Benzema or Villa?
United would be better off with Tevez, for his experience of playing with United for two seasons. The other two would probably cost more and still require an adjustment period, which means they're unlikely to have the same success as Tevez in their first season here.
AgentZero
14-02-2009, 21:03
Derby....Rooneys not going to be risked and Anderson is back at training. I hope we have a better showing at Pride park than we did last time around. Expect a Tevez and Ronaldo goal to seal the deal.
Foxhound
15-02-2009, 12:43
If Foster plays, I can see United conceding at least 1 goal.
The Messiah
15-02-2009, 17:02
Nani got some timber on that.
Nice second goal, schweet technique
Phatmann
15-02-2009, 17:23
Gibbo has been great so far. He's the next Darren Fletcher.
The Messiah
15-02-2009, 17:44
Rafael dives in too much.
Phatmann
15-02-2009, 17:46
Has Foster ever kept a clean sheet for us?
The Messiah
15-02-2009, 17:49
I might buy that Addison for my Everton. I like my big black boys.
Ahh that is an absolute peach of a goal!
Ahh that is an absolute peach of a goal!
Totally pure quality
Has Foster ever kept a clean sheet for us?
His debut? At Pride Park? :faceplm:
mufcsean
15-02-2009, 22:26
Giggs and Gibson were brilliant today, Gibson reminds me of Carrick, his passing is amazing and scores some right cracking goals.
Nani wasn't awful today for once which shocked me, lovely goal as well.
Welbecks goal was a beaut, I get more and more impressed with him every time i watch him.
Foxhound
16-02-2009, 08:27
Ronaldo's celebration was very funny.
Gibbo has been great so far. He's the next Darren Fletcher.
Insult to Gibbo? Methinks yes.
Giggs and Gibson were brilliant today, Gibson reminds me of Carrick, his passing is amazing and scores some right cracking goals.
Nani wasn't awful today for once which shocked me, lovely goal as well.
Welbecks goal was a beaut, I get more and more impressed with him every time i watch him.
Based on yesterday, I'd rather Gibbo in the 1st 11 than Carrick. nani as you rightly say had about the best game I've seen him play for us. Shame he has no consistency.
The offside decision against Ronaldo was a beaut. It's probably the first time I can remember such a good decision, made in the right way. It's proof that with proper communication between the ref and his officials that a correct decision can be made.
Phatmann
16-02-2009, 11:58
Insult to Gibbo? Methinks yes.
Based on yesterday, I'd rather Gibbo in the 1st 11 than Carrick. nani as you rightly say had about the best game I've seen him play for us. Shame he has no consistency.
The offside decision against Ronaldo was a beaut. It's probably the first time I can remember such a good decision, made in the right way. It's proof that with proper communication between the ref and his officials that a correct decision can be made.
I didn't intend it as an insult, I just see Gibson as someone who will have a few seasons on the fringe before establishing himself as a first team centre midfielder. I'm a big fan of Fletcher.
I can't agree at all that Gibson should be in the first 11 ahead of Carrick though as Carrick has been superb for us. Even though Gibson had a great game, he still has a lot of improving to do and it wasn't exactly as if he had a great game against a prem side is it? However, I do agree with your point about the refs. At first I was extremely pissed off with the decision but once they'd explained what happened, it seemed fair enough and as you said it showed good communication between the assistant referee and the fourth official. I just wish we saw that sort of thing more often.
I didn't intend it as an insult, I just see Gibson as someone who will have a few seasons on the fringe before establishing himself as a first team centre midfielder. I'm a big fan of Fletcher.
That's the problem. I'm not. I do agree that Gibson will be a fringe player, but from what i've seen of him so far I think he'll be superior to Fletcher. For me, Fletcher is a ball chaser. Nothing more. A short Carlton Palmer if you will.
I can't agree at all that Gibson should be in the first 11 ahead of Carrick though as Carrick has been superb for us. Even though Gibson had a great game, he still has a lot of improving to do and it wasn't exactly as if he had a great game against a prem side is it? However, I do agree with your point about the refs. At first I was extremely pissed off with the decision but once they'd explained what happened, it seemed fair enough and as you said it showed good communication between the assistant referee and the fourth official. I just wish we saw that sort of thing more often.
I'd prefer Gibson in the 1st 11 than Carrick. I don't think he's good enough to hold a place at present, but I'd certainly prefer him to our £16m mishap. Again it's just my personal opinion, but I don't think Carrick is the best candidate for our midfield. His 'world class' passing is a rarity, he always wants too long on the ball, I've lost count of the times he's lost the ball, or our attack has lost impetus due to him wanting 5-6 touches before passing. For the role he plays and the price we paid, it's just not good enough.
The next question will be "who do you think should be in there?"
For me I'd like Hargreves (when & if ever fit again :rolleyes:, as his more direct style suits our play better.
I don't really know what you're on about fick. Carrick's been fantastic this season, and would be first choice for me in central midfield at the moment.
I think people are getting a bit carried away with Gibson. Yes it was a good performance yesterday, but he hasn't impressed me that much in other games he's played. It wouldn't surprise me if he was shipped off in a year or two to a top Championship team.
You're knocking Carrick? On his season so far? Really?
I think we'll come to miss Hargreaves in Europe. Can't see us winning that; especially with the football Barca are playing.
Phatmann
16-02-2009, 13:04
I don't really know what you're on about fick. Carrick's been fantastic this season, and would be first choice for me in central midfield at the moment.
I think people are getting a bit carried away with Gibson. Yes it was a good performance yesterday, but he hasn't impressed me that much in other games he's played. It wouldn't surprise me if he was shipped off in a year or two to a top Championship team.
He seems to have a lot of potential which could see him be a first team regular if he gets chances like Fletcher did but unfortunately I think you're probably right and he'll end up like Jonathan Greening or Danny Pugh.
I don't really know what you're on about fick. Carrick's been fantastic this season, and would be first choice for me in central midfield at the moment.
Personal choice mate. I just don't see it. Watching him dawdle on the ball just makes my blood boil.
You're knocking Carrick? On his season so far? Really?
I think we'll come to miss Hargreaves in Europe. Can't see us winning that; especially with the football Barca are playing.
Yes, yes and yes. Good point about Europe, but I feel Hargreves would just be a better defensive/ball winnner in the EL as well. It's a tempo thing. As i've alluded to, Hargreves plays a higher tempo, pass & move game which fits better with the players around him. I also like the way he covers when the full backs push on, he's more flexible than Carrick in many ways.
He seems to have a lot of potential which could see him be a first team regular if he gets chances like Fletcher did but unfortunately I think you're probably right and he'll end up like Jonathan Greening or Danny Pugh.
Sadly, you're probably right. Would be a shame as he seems to have some potential.
When everybody's fit then the centre midfield should have Carrick with somebody else, he's the only one who's guaranteed a place for me. Scholes would usually go with him but I understand he can't play every game so it should also change between Fletcher, Hargreaves and Anderson. Gibson and Possebon still have a lot to do to get near any of these guys.
Rafael is going to be unreal, he still needs to improve the defensive side of his game but that should come with age. Needless to say going forward he's much better than Brown and Neville. Hopefully Fabio can make the same sort of impact.
This must be the best bunch of youngsters we've had in a decade. Fabio, Rafael, Evans, Gibson, Possebon, Welbeck, Campbell and from what Solskjaer has been saying Petrucci and Macheda will make the step up next season.
PS, Ryan Giggs should get a knighthood.
mufcsean
16-02-2009, 23:23
When everybody's fit then the centre midfield should have Carrick with somebody else, he's the only one who's guaranteed a place for me. Scholes would usually go with him but I understand he can't play every game so it should also change between Fletcher, Hargreaves and Anderson. Gibson and Possebon still have a lot to do to get near any of these guys.
Rafael is going to be unreal, he still needs to improve the defensive side of his game but that should come with age. Needless to say going forward he's much better than Brown and Neville. Hopefully Fabio can make the same sort of impact.
This must be the best bunch of youngsters we've had in a decade. Fabio, Rafael, Evans, Gibson, Possebon, Welbeck, Campbell and from what Solskjaer has been saying Petrucci and Macheda will make the step up next season.
PS, Ryan Giggs should get a knighthood.
Correct.
Gibson is very good but Carrick is playing absolutely amazingly. One of the best and most consistent playerss, not only for us but in the league.
AgentZero
17-02-2009, 11:08
Carrick is criminally underrated. Worth every penny of his 18M fee, more so than Bentley anyways.
Billy Minof
17-02-2009, 11:13
Will Ronaldo join Madrid?
AgentZero
17-02-2009, 11:16
well i like to think no. The very earliest i can see him leave is a year before his contract ends which will be in 2012..so 2011. But at that stage things could be different.
Will Ronaldo join Madrid?
Not fussed. Won't complain as long as we get a good fee...
Before I get slaughtered for putting down another Utd favourite I'd just like to remind people this is not the first time I've voiced this opinion.
AgentZero
17-02-2009, 11:23
Well its inevitable really, the guys has been hunkering for his supposed dream move for a while and the only reasons hes refused both times was of his determination to keep working under Fergie. Who himself must be contemplating retirement, when he goes i dont think we'll be able to keep Ronaldo. I hope the core of the team stays as itll be a tough transition away from Sir Alex.
Not fussed. Won't complain as long as we get a good fee...
Ditto. To think we could have possibly got Robinho and a barrell full of cash for Ronaldo too...
Aaronarid
17-02-2009, 20:42
When everybody's fit then the centre midfield should have Carrick with somebody else, he's the only one who's guaranteed a place for me. Scholes would usually go with him but I understand he can't play every game so it should also change between Fletcher, Hargreaves and Anderson. Gibson and Possebon still have a lot to do to get near any of these guys.
Rafael is going to be unreal, he still needs to improve the defensive side of his game but that should come with age. Needless to say going forward he's much better than Brown and Neville. Hopefully Fabio can make the same sort of impact.
This must be the best bunch of youngsters we've had in a decade. Fabio, Rafael, Evans, Gibson, Possebon, Welbeck, Campbell and from what Solskjaer has been saying Petrucci and Macheda will make the step up next season.
PS, Ryan Giggs should get a knighthood.
If Chris Hoy is deserving of one, then why not.
mufcsean
17-02-2009, 22:01
Will Ronaldo join Madrid?
One day, but as already said, as long as we get a shit load for him i'm not overly bothered.
The Messiah
18-02-2009, 21:13
He's been popping the balls around like back in the day.
Must have been watching tapes of Lucas the Great in his spare time.
AgentZero
18-02-2009, 23:40
need to go the full game against Blackburn and Edwin will get the European record.
mufcsean
18-02-2009, 23:55
Scholes was absolutely brilliant today, did he misplace one pass? What a goal by the way.
The passing for the second goal was extremely impressive. Glad to see Rooney get a goal, first touch aswell :lol:
Unbelievable we didn't concede again. Hope we manage to keep another clean sheet against Blackburn but i think it will be easy no matter how well we have been playing.
Scholes has been unreal.
Scholes was absolutely brilliant today, did he misplace one pass? What a goal by the way.
Understatement gents. It was like winding the clock back 10 years. I'd go as far as to say that ranks up there in his best performances. Fulham being shit did help a bit though!
Unbelievable we didn't concede again. Hope we manage to keep another clean sheet against Blackburn but i think it will be easy no matter how well we have been playing.
It doesn't seem to matter what we do with the back 4 at the minute. I have noticed though that Vidic seems to be controlling the back line more so now than Rio... could this be the reason for our recent fantastic defensive form..?
Hate to say it but Fergie is so smart. He knows exactly the right time to play/rest the likes of Giggs and Scholes, and when to bring in players like Fletcher, Anderson when the game suits them.
Billy Minof
19-02-2009, 11:55
Hate to say it but Fergie is so smart. He knows exactly the right time to play/rest the likes of Giggs and Scholes, and when to bring in players like Fletcher, Anderson when the game suits them.
He is or will go down as the greatest manager ever in England.......I dont like him but you have to respect him, every time the team looks like its finished ala Cantona/Keane/Schmichel retiring he builds it up again and its a credit to him, he is one of the few managers that has evolved with the game and as you say, his use of players is immense.
Loved this yesterday when that Zamora shot went just wide,
http://i41.tinypic.com/vxhp45.gif
Billy Minof
19-02-2009, 14:54
Loved this yesterday when that Zamora shot went just wide,
http://i41.tinypic.com/vxhp45.gif
lol, he just wanted to laugh out loud.
Loved this yesterday when that Zamora shot went just wide,
http://i41.tinypic.com/vxhp45.gif
How long is his neck, looks like a Diplodocus.
Kuzzy in net. Clearly going to concede. :faceplm:
The Messiah
21-02-2009, 18:27
We need to step up the game, man.
Foxhound
21-02-2009, 20:01
Great free kick from Ronaldo. I was disappointed that the build-up of Blackburn's goal was due to a Nani and Scholes mistake.
Gotta be disappointed United lost the run to a goal like that instead of a cracker, but another functional victory in the end. Could've done better with the finishing. Central defence has to be a worry for the trip to Milan though.
Great moment for Ronaldo, United will need a moment or two like that against Inter.
The 'Milan' you talk of go by Inter it's AC that go by Milan just so you know :p
They're both playing decent watched some of the Inter match today looked shakey at times.
mufcsean
21-02-2009, 21:58
As soon as i saw Kuszczak in the starting line up i knew we would concede, why was Vidic not starting? He is banned for Tuesday right?
Great goal by Ronaldo though he was lucky to still be on the pitch, he is really frustrating me lately with all this kicking out. He needs to grow up.
Nani's crossing was awful yet again today, the only half decent thing he did all game was the pass that luckily fell to Rooney.
Hope Evans injury wasn't too bad as we'll need him for the Inter game.
AgentZero
21-02-2009, 22:21
fucking kusczak...edwin himself can still have the record at Newcastle, Evans limping off was not a good sign
Surely Pedersen should have been booked if Webb thought he'd dived? Could have easily been a penalty.
Rooney looks shit hot.
mufcsean
21-02-2009, 23:44
Surely Pedersen should have been booked if Webb thought he'd dived? Could have easily been a penalty.
Rooney looks shit hot.
Well he didn't dive and Webb probably knew that, but after ruling the Evans goal out he was never gonna give them a penalty.
That cunt Ronaldo gets away with it again. Can anyone tell me why?
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 00:18
That cunt Ronaldo gets away with it again. Can anyone tell me why?
You support Barca, don't pretend like you don't know why, or that your players don't get away with it.
You support Barca, don't pretend like you don't know why, or that your players don't get away with it.
Sorry, Sean. I really should know :rolleyes:
Another kick out and the bastard gets nout done, dives and gets booked and then eventually takes a free kick and scores the winner. I dont want to even get started about the denied pen.
Typical.
Mullet Taylor
22-02-2009, 01:08
Gerrard dives lots of times aswel but thats swept under the rug cause hes one of the best English players atm
Maloney enjoys a tumble now and again aswel
Diving is apart of todays game sadly ( Celtic Vs Porta UEFA cup final 03 comes to mind ! ) . Only way to stomp it out fully would be to ban the player after video evidence is shown, otherwise Diving will continue
I'm starting to feel sorry for Ronaldo, i know why hes started kicking out at players, he is constantly getting hacked and stomped about because hes that good and hes had enough, but today he was very lucky Webb let him off the hook
I was gutted Sar got injured ( no way in hell would fergie rest his number 1 goalie, sar clearly had a slight knock and why risk him ? ). kusczak & Foster aren't the answer when Sar retires, Utd will need to go for another expierenced head i reckon
Da silva...rio...o'shea...evra
guess that'll be the back for against Inter ?
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 01:19
Da silva...rio...o'shea...evra
guess that'll be the back for against Inter ?
I would certainly think so yes. We are without
Vidic
Neville
Brown
Evans
if it isn't the line up you posted i think we could see Fletcher at right back.
Phil W.A.F.C
22-02-2009, 01:23
Vidic came on for Evans though didn't he?
Mullet Taylor
22-02-2009, 01:29
vidic is ssuspended for the game
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 01:31
Yes but he is suspended as he was sent off in the Club World cup and he now has to serve a one match ban in Europe.
Mullet Taylor
22-02-2009, 01:35
abit of a joke tbh. luckily United have one of the best squads in the world so im confident they'll handle it
Foxhound
22-02-2009, 02:13
I don't think that Evans will be out for the Inter match.
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 02:55
I don't think that Evans will be out for the Inter match.
Well Fergie thinks he will be out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7904057.stm
Foxhound
22-02-2009, 06:22
Well Fergie thinks he will be out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7904057.stm
Yeah, but how many times have we heard that <insert player's name> is doubtful for the next match, but, that player ended up playing the full game anyway?
I'm not saying Sir Alex is lying though. I'm just a wishful thinker.
AgentZero
22-02-2009, 08:15
Sorry, Sean. I really should know :rolleyes:
Another kick out and the bastard gets nout done, dives and gets booked and then eventually takes a free kick and scores the winner. I dont want to even get started about the denied pen.
Typical.
Let me, pedersen went down fairly cheaply himself.
Sorry, Sean. I really should know :rolleyes:
Another kick out and the bastard gets nout done, dives and gets booked and then eventually takes a free kick and scores the winner. I dont want to even get started about the denied pen.
Typical.
You been listening to George Burley? That cunt wouldn't stop going on about it.
HAD Ronaldo got booked for kicking out, I doubt/hope he wouldn't have been stupid enough to dive whilst on a yellow card.
Phil W.A.F.C
22-02-2009, 12:31
Yes but he is suspended as he was sent off in the Club World cup and he now has to serve a one match ban in Europe.
Of course, silly me.
Let me, pedersen went down fairly cheaply himself.
what? compared to C ronaldo's earlier dive i dont think so, that brazillan twin clearly had his hand on pederson and pulled him back, pederson was allowed to go down at that moment
I dont know about this but the analyst's said that the defender should have backed off pederson at that moment or get a good tackle, it was clearly a penalty, Howard webb should be talked to about it, cause he is a crappy refree.
Man utd were just lucky
Let me, pedersen went down fairly cheaply himself.
I think so too, but still a pen and a booking/sending off for Rafael possibly?
You been listening to George Burley? That cunt wouldn't stop going on about it.
HAD Ronaldo got booked for kicking out, I doubt/hope he wouldn't have been stupid enough to dive whilst on a yellow card.
I never listen to George Burley, and I think Ronaldo would be the kind of stupid cunt who would still dive despite being booked. I will say that I was suprised that he was booked for diving as, apart from himself, Gerrard doesnt get booked for diving either.
If that was a penalty then it may as well be a no contact sport with players running round with tags hanging out their shorts.
I wouldn't call it a dive, but Pedersen went down far, far too easily. If Rafael was pulling him back, his whole body wouldn't have flopped forward in the way it did.
If that was a penalty then it may as well be a no contact sport with players running round with tags hanging out their shorts.
I wouldn't call it a dive, but Pedersen went down far, far too easily. If Rafael was pulling him back, his whole body wouldn't have flopped forward in the way it did.
What about if it was in Blackburns penalty box?
What about if it was in Blackburns penalty box?
I would feel the exact same, although we probably would have been given a penalty (wrongly).
i think it was a penalty, Benitez statements have been justified.
Foxhound
22-02-2009, 14:16
It wasn't a penalty because Pedersen went down too easily. The ref was right not to book him as it was not a dive.
The Messiah
22-02-2009, 14:21
What about if it was in Blackburns penalty box?
Ronaldo/Rooney would have rifled it in as it was too good a chance to go down.
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 14:33
Ronaldo/Rooney would have rifled it in as it was too good a chance to go down.
Na Ronaldo would have gone down, Rooney would have gone for goal though.
The Messiah
22-02-2009, 14:38
Na Ronaldo would have gone down, Rooney would have gone for goal though.
Not when he's on a yellow. :smug:
It was a penalty imo. If you're running at top speed and then all of a sudden you feel someone grab your shoulders, you're going tobe obstructed. Did he go down easily? I'd say yes. Was there enough illegal contact to hurt his chances of getting a clean strike on goal? Yes.
Oh, and I've defended Ronaldo a lot in the past months, but he's disgraceful. I laugh at vanNistelrooy (or Bry10, or Zissou, or whatever his latest name change is) calling Drogba scum a few months back, when his team holds one of the biggest cheaters in todays game.
AgentZero
22-02-2009, 14:49
I think Howard Webb was smart enough to notice that had rafael pulled him back vigoursly he would of fallen backwards not forwards.
mufcsean
22-02-2009, 14:52
I think Howard Webb was smart enough to notice that had rafael pulled him back vigoursly he would of fallen backwards not forwards.
Thats a good point, why would Rafael pulling him back cause him to fall forwards?
Also, he didn't exactly pull him anyway, his hand goes on top of his shoulder as he tries to get around him and it happens in a split second.
Foxhound
22-02-2009, 14:53
I think Howard Webb was smart enough to notice that had rafael pulled him back vigoursly he would of fallen backwards not forwards.
He should have learn how to do that from Gerrard.
1 question. Did the disallowed goal by Evans made it to the papers in the UK?
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumb_135/1175307364Vt7kg0.jpg
Too early?
Foxhound
23-02-2009, 13:10
Travelling squad
Goalkeepers: Van der Sar, Foster, Kuszczak.
Defenders: Ferdinand, Evra, O'Shea, Evans, Fabio, Eckersley.
Midfielders: Giggs, Park, Carrick, Nani, Scholes, Possebon, Gibson, Fletcher, Ronaldo.
Forwards: Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez, Welbeck.
From manutd.com
My prediction of the back 4: O'shea-Rio-Evans-Evra, if Evans can't make it, I'd move O'shea to partner Rio and play Fletcher at RB. This reminds me of the Milan game.
wrathchild_uk
23-02-2009, 15:25
This reminds me of the Milan game.
Yep i was thinking the exact same thing..this is why the Vidic ban is so frustrating ..i don't think he should be banned though personally.
Travelling squad
Goalkeepers: Van der Sar, Foster, Kuszczak.
Defenders: Ferdinand, Evra, O'Shea, Evans, Fabio, Eckersley.
Midfielders: Giggs, Park, Carrick, Nani, Scholes, Possebon, Gibson, Fletcher, Ronaldo.
Forwards: Rooney, Berbatov, Tevez, Welbeck.
From manutd.com
My prediction of the back 4: O'shea-Rio-Evans-Evra, if Evans can't make it, I'd move O'shea to partner Rio and play Fletcher at RB. This reminds me of the Milan game.
Let's hope you get fucked over again then :lol:
It's still a tough tie to predict. Inter have been awful in Europe for a while, but you just have a feeling that it will all fall into place for them.
There's not much to say about you, except that you are winning every game you are playing at the moment, not letting in goals and playing well.
But if there is one manager that can screw up your blue print to win the four trophies, then it's definitely Jose Mourinho, better known as The Special One.
Let's hope you get fucked over again then :lol:
We won that game 3-2 though. :happy:
God help us if O'Shea and Evans are both out.
The fact that both Evans and O'Shea have made the trip, suggests at least 1 of them will be fit.
Inter have Samuel out as well.
Ronaldo/Rooney would have rifled it in as it was too good a chance to go down.
:chanlaugh:
Na Ronaldo would have gone down, Rooney would have gone for goal though.
Of course he would, Sean ;)
After last night (Liverpool/City), things are lookin increasingly well for you. Ive said before, anyone but Liverpool which is why Ill have on the red of United in the clash at Old Trafford. The last time I wore it, right enough you were beat at Anfield, but the time before that O' Shea scored a peach.
What a day.
I think because it's looking like it's us or Liverpool, a few of the neutrals are going for us.
Not looking forward to tomorrow's game. Too many players missing at the back for my liking.
I think Chelsea will finish second, title is won already.
AgentZero
23-02-2009, 20:26
i wouldn't be surprised if we went out in 3-5-2. Soccernet mentions Rafael failed to board the teamflight...did he do a homealone and went with the wrong party? or didnt wake up?
The Eristic
23-02-2009, 21:01
i wouldn't be surprised if we went out in 3-5-2. Soccernet mentions Rafael failed to board the teamflight...did he do a homealone and went with the wrong party? or didnt wake up?
Supposedly due to an undisclosed or unknown injury.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/feb/23/inter-manchester-united
Meyyappan
24-02-2009, 07:05
We won that game 3-2 though. :happy:
God help us if O'Shea and Evans are both out.
You lost 3-0
You lost 3-0
No, in the game where we had a defensive injury crisis (missing both Rio and Vidic) we won 3-2. Vidic was back for the second leg.
No, in the game where we had a defensive injury crisis (missing both Rio and Vidic) we won 3-2. Vidic was back for the second leg.
...and was dump :-/
AgentZero
24-02-2009, 11:08
well 3 years have passed and several silverware later id like to think were a stronger team.
What channel is the inter game gunna be on?
Is there any website that can tell me?
http://www.onthebox.com/
ITV1
Hopefully one of them will be back and we can play,
Fletcher--Rio--O'Shea/Evans--Evra
I really don't fancy putting Eckersley in the line-up.
Foxhound
24-02-2009, 14:40
I get the feeling that if one of Evans and O'shea can't play, Park will start at right back.
The Messiah
24-02-2009, 18:23
So who don't we think will not turn up? Ronaldo, Ibrahimović or both?
Ibrahimović willl score.
Ronaldo will roll around and do fuck all that helps us get a result.
I predict 2-0 or 2-1 to Inter.
I guess you lot would be hoping for a score draw tonight?
If man utd score, would they park the bus? Have man utd ever done that?
We parked the bus against Barca, but if we hadn't we'd probably been torn to shit.
I'm hoping for a goal. Don't think we'll win. Can see Inter getting a goal or two without playing too well, so a 2-1 loss wouldn't be the end of the world, as we're more than capable of putting a couple past anyone at Old Trafford.
So who don't we think will not turn up? Ronaldo, Ibrahimović or both?
Both.
Giggs will score the first goal and Adriano will equalise. 1-1 final score.
I predict Rooney to be our star man in trying to make things happen. Ronaldo will frustrate, and Berbatov will go AWOL. Just another standard game really.
Rooney isn't starting. Both Evans and O'Shea are.
The Messiah
24-02-2009, 19:22
It looks like we're parking the Ferrari & hoping to nick a goal on the counter.
No Tevez either? Shit, I only expected to go this defensive in midfield if our back 4 was completely diminished.
The Messiah
24-02-2009, 19:54
Inter look nervous. Lets bum them in the face.
Inter look nervous. Lets bum them in the face.
:chanlaugh:
Yeah, we're definitely getting the better of them I'd say. I'm surprised at how well Ronaldo is doing though, I would have expected him to have been raped by Inter's ganging up on him but he's holding his own so far.
Inter look nervous. Lets bum them in the face.
I'm siding them in this tie (only because they're Italian and even that's stretching it with them) but :chanlaugh: at that.
wrathchild_uk
24-02-2009, 20:36
I think we could do with Rooney coming on for Berbatov..i think his pace would cause that Rivas a few problems.
AgentZero
24-02-2009, 22:12
Satisying performance. The whole of the first half was ours, lucky Adriano is short of confidence the old one would of blasted that.
mufcsean
24-02-2009, 23:38
We really should have won that game, and Rooney should have come on a lot earlier.
We really should have won that game, and Rooney should have come on a lot earlier.
Spot on.
Was texting my mate at about the 70th minute mark saying we need to bring Rooney on. He definitely shook Inter up when he came on, and being booked for his challenge was ridiculous - it was a perfect tackle and he couldn't have won the ball more cleanly. We looked slightly stale in parts of the 2nd half and no doubt Rooney would have livened it up more if he was to be brought on earlier. Who knows though, he may still have been carrying the slight injury, he was perhaps not 100% fit.
I was very impressed with Park tonight though (minus that little hiccup before he got subbed). He was moving constantly, and done a good job running at Inter, but also keeping the ball. If the run at the RB wasn't on, or if he was being pressured, he would simply turn around and play it back to Evra or to Carrick/Fletcher in order to keep possession.
Just disappointed in our lack of clinical finishing to be honest. Scoring free-kicks is obviously difficult, and Ronaldo testing the goalkeeper on a few occasions is good stuff but surely we had to add a bit of variety to them ? Maybe a cross from one or two of them, especially since we got about 5+ free kicks in dangerous areas.
Foxhound
25-02-2009, 07:14
I didn't get to see the game. I didn't even hear the alarm clock. 0-0 is satisfying, I guess. I wish it was a score draw though.
Quite a dire second half for United. After the hour mark I was just waiting for the game to end to be honest.
A decent enough performance from the backline though to keep a clean sheet, can't remember an occasion when Inter came close, except Cambiasso from the corner.
AgentZero
25-02-2009, 22:22
remember the last time Mourinho came to Old trafford for a UCL game??
I just hope we can put them away early on. 1 goal lead would have me shitting bricks.
Good performance, I'm pretty confident with Vidic and especially Rooney back we will be able to beat them.
Mullet Taylor
26-02-2009, 14:47
i heard evans took two injections to play in the game. I hope this doesn't turn into a trend, can't this have long term damage to the player ?
AgentZero
26-02-2009, 19:46
a lot of players have taken pain killing injections in the past. Its just like taking a panadol to curb that headache.
mufcsean
27-02-2009, 00:31
i heard evans took two injections to play in the game. I hope this doesn't turn into a trend, can't this have long term damage to the player ?
A lot of players do it, i seem to remember Gerrard doing it for like a month, it cant be good for them in the long run but at least it shows how much they want to play.
Rafael out for a month. Harsh timing as he really deserves to play in the CC Final.
Mullet Taylor
27-02-2009, 21:56
safe to say he'll play in many more finals before he retires :d
This is apparantly what our away shirt will look like next season,
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm139/Ander8on/UnitedAway0911.jpg
It's a tribute to the FA Cup winning team of 1909.
This is apparantly what our away shirt will look like next season,
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm139/Ander8on/UnitedAway0911.jpg
It's a tribute to the FA Cup winning team of 1909.
I like it. I think its better than the white/blue/red one from this season.
Bit too much red in for an away kit no ?
AgentZero
28-02-2009, 04:49
whoa...im not a fan. Skeptical about its validity considering AIG is broke phi broke.
Foxhound
28-02-2009, 07:20
This is apparantly what our away shirt will look like next season,
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm139/Ander8on/UnitedAway0911.jpg
It's a tribute to the FA Cup winning team of 1909.
Isn't it supposed to be the home kit that has the V design, with the colours inverted.
Anyway, if it turns to be the new away kit next season, it looks a lot better than the current white away kit.
Bit too much red in for an away kit no ?
Yup. You can safely say you'll never see those shorts again!
AgentZero
28-02-2009, 10:36
heres a thought? since its 40 yrs on from the first cup triumph. Should we if we make it to the final of the champions league don the blue kit as oppose to the red?
We won't get there :( Too many games I feel, but I guess we'll see.
Can someone please post up that vid of Rafa going on a rant about Fergie. I fancy revisiting that moment where he pissed Liverpool's chances of winning the league against the wall.
Might as well make the most of today's result (fucking Lampard though!). Could well be crying in my pillow after tomorrow's game.
http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff131/MBalooToo/sexy_party.gif
Wouldn't worry too much about Chelski to be honest. If they need a last minute winner to beat Wigan at home it says a lot about them. Don't think getting someone in for the short-term is what they need, but we'll see.
The Messiah
28-02-2009, 17:32
This is apparantly what our away shirt will look like next season,
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm139/Ander8on/UnitedAway0911.jpg
It's a tribute to the FA Cup winning team of 1909.
The PL badge needs to be gold.
I think he's right though, then everything will match lol
The PL badge needs to be gold.
:lol:
Don't think I mind the shirt but the shorts aren't particularly nice though - definitely too much red. Might look smart with white shorts.
PS: It's in the bag. ;)
Nice of Boro to find a bit of form though, as we're yet to visit the Riverside.
Anyone know how far away that match is?
As far as I know it's late April. Around the time we have City and Arsenal at home. :erm:
Luis_Garcia
28-02-2009, 18:36
Boro didn't find any form, they were absolutely awful today. We just didn't put away our chances that we had, as well as missing 2 sitters (you'll see on MOTD) Our defense is the problem at the moment, although the first goal was an unlucky own goal, on second inspection, it was because it wasn't headed away when it should have been. But lucky nonetheless
I conceede the title to yous guys
Boro didn't find any form, they were absolutely awful today. We just didn't put away our chances that we had, as well as missing 2 sitters (you'll see on MOTD) Our defense is the problem at the moment, although the first goal was an unlucky own goal, on second inspection, it was because it wasn't headed away when it should have been. But lucky nonetheless
I conceede the title to yous guys
You know what they say about the best teams, even after being battered they always sneak the win. ;)
Luis_Garcia
28-02-2009, 19:15
Thats a good point actually, Boro didn't play well and still won. Stuff of champions that ;)
Keyser Soze
28-02-2009, 19:47
Wouldn't worry too much about Chelski to be honest. If they need a last minute winner to beat Wigan at home it says a lot about them. Don't think getting someone in for the short-term is what they need, but we'll see.
Because United never get jammy? Fucking irony. :lol:
Don't think Liverpool were ever a factor and was just a matter of time until they fizzed out as per usual. I still think the lead is too strong for you to fuck up now but we'll see.
AgentZero
28-02-2009, 21:07
nice for boro to give us this leg up. Lets just not royally fuck up when we travel to Tyneside.
Foxhound
01-03-2009, 06:02
I think the kit would look better if all the red bits is in black, worn with black shorts.
AgentZero
01-03-2009, 09:54
no just lose the red shorts.
If you lose the red shorts though, the whole thing will be white :/
AgentZero
01-03-2009, 11:28
true..but thats what the 1909 kit looked like. White with red V and white shorts.
Since this years alternatives are blue and white, I take it next seasons is back to white (proposed design) and a black one. I personally would love it if we extend this smart blue one for another season but it aint gonna happen.
Also,nike are fairly lazy...theyve just rehashed the old Mexico jersey. Id like a bit more tradition if we are celebrating the 1909 FA cup winners...
cotton shirts,no sponsors (on the chest) and a strong V not a lame, half aroused V.
No Rooney or Berbatov? Not even on the bench. We better not have to chase this game at any point.
Rooney has a virus so thats why hes not included
Phatmann
01-03-2009, 21:01
For the first time this season, Ben Foster really impressed me. He was one of our best players today. Unfortunately, the same can't be said about Welbeck. I still have no idea why he didn't just swing his left at the ball when Scholes lofted the ball into his path. Notice how the only ones to miss the pens were Englishmen? :lol: I called Bentleys miss citing this as the reason.
Foxhound
02-03-2009, 09:09
"Just before the shoot-out I was looking at an iPod and on it were Tottenham's penalties, including one from O'Hara," said Foster.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/4904506/Ben-Foster-attributes-Carling-Cup-penalty-save-to-iPod-preparation.html
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 12:35
Ribery linked with United
Bayern winger could replace Ronaldo if he decides to join Real
Bayern Munich winger Frank Ribery's agent Alain Migliaccio has revealed that the Frenchman could move to Manchester United if Cristiano Ronaldo decides to join Real Madrid.
The 25-year-old has been strongly linked with a summer move to Barcelona but now Migliaccio has thrown United's hat into the ring.
With rumours of Ronaldo's proposed move to Real Madrid refusing to go away, the former Marseille man's representative believes that, should the Portugal international join the Spanish champions, United would look to replace him with Ribery.
The French international star has been in scintillating form of late, highlighted in Bayern's 5-0 demolition away at Sporting Lisbon in the UEFA Champions last-16 first leg where he scored twice and created two more.
"If Manchester United sells Cristiano Ronaldo, Sir Alex Ferguson would like to cover that transfer with Ribery's signature," Migliaccio told Bild.
Meanwhile, Barcelona president Joan Laporta denied that his club had already reached an agreement to sign Ribery at the end of the season.
"We didn't speak with his representative nor with the player's entourage," he told L'Equipe.
"If one day we were to plan it, we would speak directly with his club."
AgentZero
02-03-2009, 12:38
thinking of making a poll request of
Will Nemanja Vidic win the pfa this season?
EDIT: stay away from here with all your nonsense Billy.
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 12:49
EDIT: stay away from here with all your nonsense Billy.
:blush:...I thought ye would be happy to see a very good player interested in going to you when Ronaldo says Adios. :cool:
AgentZero
02-03-2009, 12:51
Ribery is too ugly, in ronaldo not only do we lose a great player but an even better marketing tool.
That particular department will have a hard time if they have Tevez, Rooney and Ribery to work with.
Ribery linked with United
2 years too late...
Ribery is too ugly, in ronaldo not only do we lose a great player but an even better marketing tool.
That particular department will have a hard time if they have Tevez, Rooney and Ribery to work with.
:chanlaugh: Can always direct markenting towards the less fortunate:
"Ugly twats can be famous too"
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 13:24
Ribery is too ugly, in ronaldo not only do we lose a great player but an even better marketing tool.
That particular department will have a hard time if they have Tevez, Rooney and Ribery to work with.
Messi is fair ugly aswell, but I bet ye would take him. :ninja:
2 years too late...
For who?
For who?
With Nani showing willing, I highly doubt we'd look at Ribery anymore.
Did any of you watch the Bayern match when they played Bremen the other day?
Ribery was awesome, such a good player
Better than nani...
Did any of you watch the Bayern match when they played Bremen the other day?
Ribery was awesome, such a good player
Better than nani...
I don't deny that Ribery is a better player, but he's turned us down in the past & I just cannot see us purchasing another wide player.
Anyhoo, Ronaldo says he want's to stay... :erm:
Foxhound
02-03-2009, 14:03
I don't deny that Ribery is a better player, but he's turned us down in the past & I just cannot see us purchasing another wide player.
Anyhoo, Ronaldo says he want's to stay... :erm:
He'll decide in two weeks.
Anyway, if you want to watch the players celebrating in the changing room:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq8gf_SpJIU
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 14:20
Did any of you watch the Bayern match when they played Bremen the other day?
Ribery was awesome, such a good player
Better than nani...
He is always Awesome.....and in the top 5 wingers in the World at this present time.
Anyhoo, Ronaldo says he want's to stay... :erm:
Well he said last season that he wanted to go and he stayed so if he is saying he wants to stay this time he might go. :ohmy:
Well he said last season that he wanted to go and he stayed so if he is saying he wants to stay this time he might go. :ohmy:
:huh: I think I got that.
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 14:45
:huh: I think I got that.
So would you prefer Nani or Ribery to replace Ronaldo?
So would you prefer Nani or Ribery to replace Ronaldo?
I don't think anyone would 'replace' Ronaldo. Nani can't, he doesn't have the arrogance for one. Ribery is an excellent player as I have already alluded to and as much as I would like to see him in the Red side of Manchester I just cannot.
I think Ronaldo will be at OT for another year yet. The allure of trophies is too great for someone with an ego that big.
Billy Minof
02-03-2009, 15:36
I think Ronaldo will be at OT for another year yet. The allure of trophies is too great for someone with an ego that big.
I agree and I think that he would be crazy to leave you at this moment in time even though it would benifit Madrid but it would be a stupid move for him to go when United are by far the best team in the World right now.
wrathchild_uk
02-03-2009, 15:52
Exactly and if he joined Madrid he'd be at a club who change there manager every season so it be pretty unstable. Beckham left Utd and only won the league once so joining Madrid doesn't always guarantee trophies..
AgentZero
02-03-2009, 22:29
made a request for a poll in this thread
Will Nemanja win the PFA?
AgentZero
04-03-2009, 10:02
We better not be complacent against Newcastle. Rooney will be back...another goal?
Foxhound
04-03-2009, 11:59
We better not be complacent against Newcastle. Rooney will be back...another goal?
Maybe. He has a good record of scoring against Newcastle. Is O'shea fit to play? He had a heel problem during the CC Final.
Maybe. He has a good record of scoring against Newcastle. Is O'shea fit to play? He had a heel problem during the CC Final.
Heel problem ? So that's why he played shit. ;)
I'm guessing a 1-0 victory tonight, or at least winning by one goal anyway. Hopefully Rooney will play a part too, either him or Tevez to add a bit of zest and worry the Newcastle defence.
mufcsean
04-03-2009, 12:19
Heel problem ? So that's why he played shit. ;)
I'm guessing a 1-0 victory tonight, or at least winning by one goal anyway. Hopefully Rooney will play a part too, either him or Tevez to add a bit of zest and worry the Newcastle defence.
Yeah I think it will be a win by one goal but i have gone for 2-1 to us, Rooney and Scholes to score.
I'm dreading this evening, absolutely dreading it. I really don't understand you all think it will be by just the single goal, especially when you consider what Liverpool done to us earlier on in the season. Quite frankly we're in the worst mess the club has been in for almost 20 years, and with the current playing staff unavailable it's certainly the worst team we've had since we gained promotion to the Premiership.
God if you guys,Newcastle,play anything like you did against Liverpool then Man United could get a dozen. Especially with no Shay any more.
Mullet Taylor
04-03-2009, 16:31
newcastle could cause a wee upset. newcastle need to treat each remaining game like a cup final and jus try to bully utd tonight.
i reckon a double from rooney thogh
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