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I said I care about them? The only thing that I care about is them turning up against Liverpool, which clearly they haven't.
Lord Shrimpeh
22-03-2009, 20:44
We should never focus on liverpool's results though just our own. I think we'll get back onto winning ways against Villa though the league is a close call now. I did the BBC predictor thing today and worked it as coming down to goal difference...
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EDIT: Long ball Liverpool are 3 up at half time. Sure the press will blow them for this, although two goals came from hoofs upfield and Gerrard scoring what must be his tenth penalty in successive games. Fucking Villa, sure they'll turn up when they come to OT.
Long ball Liverpool? Quality! If the defences are too shit to deal wth a goalkeeper kicking the ball upfield then they shouldn't play football.
Game on!!
AgentZero
23-03-2009, 23:39
So Rooney escapes further wrath of the FA.
Long ball Liverpool? Quality! If the defences are too shit to deal wth a goalkeeper kicking the ball upfield then they shouldn't play football.
Game on!!
If by your first remark you're suggesting you don't play long ball, look again. I can't quite get my head round how top flight teams can't defend long balls, but lately they can't.
AgentZero
24-03-2009, 10:41
it almost felt like fulham was taking potshots at edwin as pre-meditated game plan.
Are the defenders not closing down quick enough or something?
If by your first remark you're suggesting you don't play long ball, look again. I can't quite get my head round how top flight teams can't defend long balls, but lately they can't.
To be fair, I don't think that it's just punt and hope for the best. They seem to have practiced this tactic in training and there are kicking it to a target, rather than just randomly.
Reina is the best keeper in the league, and maybe in Europe, at distribution of the ball. You can see how quick he is to start attacks and get the opposition off guard. And the way he kicks the ball ( deep but with pace ) makes it a problem for defenders if they don't deal with the ball before it bounces.
I can understand a Chelsea fan defending long balls, but an Arsenal fan? ;)
Nah, just messing :cool:
sukhy2004
26-03-2009, 02:53
United have looked so sluggish in midfield, Fabio needs to play and drive the team forward!
Foxhound
26-03-2009, 05:29
United have looked so sluggish in midfield, Fabio needs to play and drive the team forward!
Fabio is still unproven at this level, so I doubt that he can make a huge difference.
I think Nani has to play against Villa. I know that he's been inconsistent this season but, we have no other options. I don't want to see Tevez as the lone striker.
Capello told off Wayne Rooney infront of the England squad, for his actions on Saturday :lol:
I used to hate it when my mom disciplined me infront of my friends.
Your comparing your mother to Fabio Capello :shocking:
No offence, but I Wouldn't like to meet your mother :erm:
AgentZero
26-03-2009, 13:32
i would, she would have awesome connections in the footballing world.
It wasn't really a telling off. He jokingly called Rooney ''A crazy, crazy man''.
Mullet Taylor
27-03-2009, 00:05
typical timing for an international break :(
The title race was really starting to heat up
As Evra said though, that was the first time since hes joined Utd, have they lost back to back league games.
Everyteam go threw a wee shitty period, Utd's had to come sooner or later. Problem now is, if Utd continue to let in goals and Ronaldo isnt doing what hes doing last season, who is going to step up ? I can't see it being Berbaaa
sukhy2004
27-03-2009, 00:20
Fabio is still unproven at this level, so I doubt that he can make a huge difference.
I think Nani has to play against Villa. I know that he's been inconsistent this season but, we have no other options. I don't want to see Tevez as the lone striker.
I still think we should just gamble on him, especially for the Villa game.
Nani has been so bad this season, rather see Fabio play on the left! Tevez up front by himself is always a bad idea, hopefully Berba will be fit
Billy Minof
27-03-2009, 02:05
Tevez up front by himself is always a bad idea, hopefully Berba will be fit
Id be hoping that he wasnt fit mate, he has done sweet FA all season and has been a real disapointment IMO, the odd flash here and there but Tevez/Rooney is alot more dangerous, I know Rooney is injured but I think that Wellbeck or someone would be more dangerous than a half fit Berbatov or they could play Ronaldo off of the striker like he has done in the past, true though that Tevez up top on his own doesnt work.
Id be hoping that he wasnt fit mate, he has done sweet FA all season and has been a real disapointment IMO, the odd flash here and there but Tevez/Rooney is alot more dangerous, I know Rooney is injured but I think that Wellbeck or someone would be more dangerous than a half fit Berbatov or they could play Ronaldo off of the striker like he has done in the past, true though that Tevez up top on his own doesnt work.Doesn't he have the most assists in the Premiership this season?
Doesn't he have the most assists in the England League this season?
Yep, he's been involved in more of our goals this season (scorer or assist) than any other player.
Meyyappan
27-03-2009, 11:07
Doesn't he have the most assists in the England League this season?
Isnt that robin van persie with 12 assists?
AgentZero
27-03-2009, 13:34
Isnt that robin van persie with 12 assists?12? The Premier League website has him at 9.
Foxhound
29-03-2009, 09:50
I don't know what people want from Berbatov. If he stays up the field, he's branded as lazy. If he drops deep, people are saying he should've stayed up the field. I do agree with some people that says he shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place even though is from is far from the best.
AgentZero
29-03-2009, 10:04
need another west ham momen, where he created a goal from nothing. That in itself was more pleasing.
I don't know what people want from Berbatov. If he stays up the field, he's branded as lazy. If he drops deep, people are saying he should've stayed up the field. I do agree with some people that says he shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place even though is from is far from the best.
I call him lazy frequently, but it's usually for a laugh with mates when we see him walking ever so casually about, he'll break into a little jog when chasing the ball, then 5 yards later cut back down to a walk. :lol:
People just expected better from him though, point blank. He's not exactly playing like £30m at the moment, whereas Tevez on the other hand is really showing desire by scoring goals, and being involved in many goals. Maybe Berbatov himself is placing too much pressure on his own shoulders to play well. It's a strange situation since he's already adapted to the Premier League.
Foxhound
29-03-2009, 13:37
True. I guess he needs more time to adjust/adapt to Man United's playing style.
sukhy2004
30-03-2009, 19:22
Even if Berba is playing terribly I'd rather see him up there as a focal point for Tevez, Ronaldo & Fabio (hopefully) to work off, because Tevez can't hack it up front by himself especially with Ronaldo playing so horribly
Macheda scored a hat-trick for the reserves tonight, can't wait to see this guy in the first team.
Phatmann
30-03-2009, 23:53
Macheda scored a hat-trick for the reserves tonight, can't wait to see this guy in the first team.
He's not the first of our youth strikers to score loads in the reserves though. Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, Frazer Campbell, Danny Welbeck, Giuseppe Rossi. Unfortunately none have made it in the first team due to not being given much of a chance or not being good enough. I'd love for them to be given more of a chance in the first team but it's more likely that Macheda will get a few league cup games, maybe a few league games, then go on loan to someone, probably an Italian team, then making the move permanent. I'm not much of an optimist am I?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINkgkDUJZ8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eredcaf e%2Enet%2Ff6%2Fole%2Dmacheda%2 Dpetrucci%2D236040%2Findex2%2E html&feature=player_embedded
His 3rd goal was Solksjaeresque.
Foxhound
01-04-2009, 07:42
I heard that Anderson was injured while training with Brazil, and is likely to miss against Villa.
I had a nightmare last night where we lost 4-2 at home to Tottenham and Rooney got sent off :(
sukhy2004
01-04-2009, 09:14
^^that's just horrible.....
AgentZero
01-04-2009, 12:48
I had a nightmare last night where we lost 4-2 at home to Tottenham and Rooney got sent off :(
conceeding 4 goals at home twice would be horrible. I think we're all raumatised somehow from the liverpool game.
Billy Minof
01-04-2009, 13:29
I don't know what people want from Berbatov. If he stays up the field, he's branded as lazy. If he drops deep, people are saying he should've stayed up the field. I do agree with some people that says he shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place even though is from is far from the best.
Goals for a start.....30m and scoring 8 goals from a striker to me is a failure and BTW he is lazy thats why people say it, he is still a very good player though I just think he needs to do more at a bigger club.
sukhy2004
03-04-2009, 20:03
wow.....united are in trouble at the weekend, no berba, no rooney, no scholes, no vidic, there's going to be a jet-lagged tevez up front, you've got a false winger in park, who has almost no ability on the ball, and there's a an out of form ronaldo in the team.....if we win the game against Villa I will be surprised. Hopefully we do win, but I can't see it happening.
Original?
03-04-2009, 22:02
He's not the first of our youth strikers to score loads in the reserves though. Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, Frazer Campbell, Danny Welbeck, Giuseppe Rossi. Unfortunately none have made it in the first team due to not being given much of a chance or not being good enough. I'd love for them to be given more of a chance in the first team but it's more likely that Macheda will get a few league cup games, maybe a few league games, then go on loan to someone, probably an Italian team, then making the move permanent. I'm not much of an optimist am I?
I think you've missed out the part where he will do relatively well for the club in question. I could see him doing very well at a mid-table Serie A team, before bigger clubs become interested.
Foxhound
05-04-2009, 11:20
Villa will be a tough one. With injuries and suspensions to important players, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends as a draw. The bench will be one of the weakest we've seen this season. I'd play Ronaldo and Tevez in the front, with Park and Nani on the wings, Carrick and Fletcher in the centre midfield.
Can't put into words how shit we are the last few weeks.
I'll be surprised if we even finish 2nd.
Awful defending from United. Terrible commitment from Ronaldo as well. If I were you lot I'd sell him in the summer to Real for £75mil or so and use the money to buy Kaka or someone.
Ronaldo was pathetic against Fulham and that just really angered me when he lost the ball and then just stood there.
That's a fucking superb strike from Macheda.
I'm going to behead Andy Gray. Take a bow so you can abuse him? Plank.
By all accounts, Macheda has been getting better and better since joining the club. Anyone confirm, aside from the obvious that he wouldn't be playing otherwise?
uA - 1905
05-04-2009, 17:52
wowzer
Macheda scored a hat-trick for the reserves tonight, can't wait to see this guy in the first team.
:lol:
Don't think I've ever had quite a change of emotion in the space of 15 minutes like this.
Awesome games for the neutrals. The result doesn't have an effect on Chelsea, so I was purely watching the game for entertainment and I got that.
2 brilliantly taken goals is what settled it. Good result for us as well, 6 clear of Villa now.
Great game and an awesome last 10-15 minutes. When the pressure is on at the end of the season, our league can be awesome.
Well that was great timing to turn the match off :faceplm:.
How did Macheda do apart from the goal?
:lol:
Don't think I've ever had quite a change of emotion in the space of 15 minutes like this.
:lol:
I was thinking in a few seasons maybe, not that i'm complaining.
Kudos to Fergie for giving a guy in form a chance, would have been easier to throw Park on as he has the experience.
Luis_Garcia
05-04-2009, 18:29
Such a bad mood.
Macheda popped up, nice guy, scored a beauty, hugged his family. Quite like the guy, problem is the scenario its in.
I HATE Ronaldo. Through and through. Despise the guy.
Was woeful again and scored a brace. How I do not know. How he can remain with his cocky demeanor, hardly beat anyone all day, cost his team a goal, cunt.
Well done for digging deep united, but my god do I hate them.
Well that was great timing to turn the match off :faceplm:.
How did Macheda do apart from the goal?
He played well, despite a few bad touches. He took his goal very well and I take it that was his family he ran to? Nice touch.
Great finish to the match, I was actually comtemplating just knocking it off, Im glad I didnt.
Cannon ball
05-04-2009, 18:40
Dang......
Luis_Garcia
05-04-2009, 18:42
Great finish to the match, I was actually comtemplating just knocking it off, Im glad I didnt.
I was contemplating knocking one off with 15 minutes to go. Now I care for nothing.
mufcsean
05-04-2009, 19:18
:lol:
Don't think I've ever had quite a change of emotion in the space of 15 minutes like this.
Me too, i was really pissed off and couldn't believe how bad we were then i nearly bloody exploded when Macheda scored that.
We really didn't deserve the win and i feel sorry in a way for Villa, but, in another, more important way, i don't give a fuck about them, if we had lost today it wouldn't have surprised me at all.
Carrick was brilliant in the last 20-25 minutes, Flecther too.
Ronaldo is a lazy fucker, he needs to stop watching everybody playing around him and make a fucking tackle for once. Though his goals were superb.
Macheda is a legend, even if he never ever plays again he is a legend forever at OT. Though i'm sure, nay positive he will play again.
Wow, just wow.
As Haribo and Sean have already said, the change in emotion was epic as fuck. I really thought we were down and out after such a poor performance, then up pops Ronaldo who doesn't beat a man all game with the trickle into the bottom corner. Should have seen me celebrating, I didn't think it went in initially, only after it rolled round the back of the net did I really start leaping. :lol:
My mate text me when Macheda came on and said "Macheda to win it". Fuck my life did he ever. I was shocked at the 5 minutes that went up but obviously delighted. Macheda's overall play when he came on was very good to be fair to him, he turned several defenders inside out and did more in those 10-15 minutes than the majority of the team did in 90. When he made that amazing turn in the box, I was standing in anticipation, then when it curled in, oh christ almighty, it's the type of stuff that literally makes you squel like a girl. :w00t
Fucking love it, do I feel sorry for Villa ? Not at all. Actually, it worked out superb for me, I have Gabby Agbonlahor in my Fantasy League team, as well as Ronaldo as my captain - bitches! :lol:
Still buzzing, just had a kick about with mates as well then. I was constantly pretending I was Macheda when I had the ball. Dreams are made of this.
Awesome games for the neutrals. The result doesn't have an effect on Chelsea, so I was purely watching the game for entertainment and I got that.
As a neutral I just watched it for the football, the quality of football was awful. It supported the view that English football is behind tactically and technically. Some of the goals were good but since I wasn't bothered in the outcome too much I cant say I was entertained.
As has been said though credit must go to Fergie for trying an unproven player in such a high pressure situation. Even if his tactical approach to the game was wrong in the first place. Regardless of the Macheda goal those who support Utd must have been left with more questions than answers regarding thier title defence, they are not looking like a title winning team.
AgentZero
05-04-2009, 22:04
my heart can not take this...should stop eating all those fried chickens.
Keyser Soze
05-04-2009, 22:14
Awesome games for the neutrals. The result doesn't have an effect on Chelsea, so I was purely watching the game for entertainment and I got that.
Oh come on maaan! I'd be extremely dissapointed with any Chelsea fan who were pleased to see that goal go in. First Liverpool's stoppage time winner and then that, I think I threw up in the back of my mouth.
With that being said, take a bow son. What a feeling that must have been for Macheda, knowing you've potentially won the game/league for your team within the space of 10 minutes.
AgentZero
05-04-2009, 22:22
Hope we can cling on to this lad. I would like to see more from him, take notice Berbatov.
wrathchild_uk
06-04-2009, 00:25
Does anyone know of any sites that show the goals from todays game??
uA - 1905
06-04-2009, 00:26
goalsarena.com
and footytube.com has the motd highlights in very good quality
AgentZero
06-04-2009, 00:39
goalsarena.com
and footytube.com has the motd highlights in very good qualityhavent seen the untied one posted yet.
uA - 1905
06-04-2009, 00:44
yeah usually they post it the day after.
AgentZero
06-04-2009, 00:52
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3461/67970712.png (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=67970712.png)
uA - 1905
06-04-2009, 01:43
havent seen the untied one posted yet.
you can see it now
Foxhound
06-04-2009, 04:39
I really thought that Villa would win the match. How happy was I when proven wrong. It's great to see Macheda scoring the winner, in front of the Stretford End as well. His goal could potentially decide on which team is going to win the league. I hope to see more of him in the near future.
:lol:
Don't Think I've Ever Had Quite A Change Of Emotion In The Space Of 15 Minutes Like This.
99?
AgentZero
06-04-2009, 13:42
15 mins mate, not 2.
15 mins mate, not 2.
I'm pretty sure 2 fits into 15, and the 2/3 minutes in Barcelona more emotional!
Foxhound
06-04-2009, 14:49
Does anyone here see the resemblance of Macheda and Totti?
Original?
06-04-2009, 17:55
Does anyone here see the resemblance of Macheda and Totti?
They do look similar, though Macheda looks like his older brother! It's hard to believe he's 17...
This Porto game will be good, I've got a feeling about it. Hopefully we might see some of Macheda towards the end, he may even start to be honest since we'll probably give Tevez a rest. He looked absolutely knackered by the end of last match, and considering he had just played international as well, another game 2 days later is a big ask from the nutter.
Anyone here a member on RedCafe or Red Issue ?
Just wondering really.
Prediction: Manchester United 2-0 Porto.
PS: Anderson will score his goal for the season against Porto, his old club. :ninja:
This Porto game will be good, I've got a feeling about it. Hopefully we might see some of Macheda towards the end, he may even start to be honest since we'll probably give Tevez a rest. He looked absolutely knackered by the end of last match, and considering he had just played international as well, another game 2 days later is a big ask from the nutter.
Anyone here a member on RedCafe or Red Issue ?
Just wondering really.
Prediction: Manchester United 2-0 Porto.
PS: Anderson will score his goal for the season against Porto, his old club. :ninja:
Just aslong as you lot can keep going in the England League, Ill be happy. I made a crazy post the other day and I dont want it to come back at me.
But I think 3-1 in the Porto game will do the job, that Villa match will hopefully have gave you's that bit of confidence.
This Porto game will be good, I've got a feeling about it. Hopefully we might see some of Macheda towards the end, he may even start to be honest since we'll probably give Tevez a rest. He looked absolutely knackered by the end of last match, and considering he had just played international as well, another game 2 days later is a big ask from the nutter.
Anyone here a member on RedCafe or Red Issue ?
Just wondering really.
Prediction: Manchester United 2-0 Porto.
PS: Anderson will score his goal for the season against Porto, his old club. :ninja:
It's a bit crazy that you had to play your game on Sunday, when you have a Tuesday game. I never noticed that. Usually if you're playing on Tuesday, you'll play on Saturday.
Foxhound
07-04-2009, 06:52
Anyone here a member on RedCafe or Red Issue ?
Just wondering really.
Prediction: Manchester United 2-0 Porto.
PS: Anderson will score his goal for the season against Porto, his old club. :ninja:
I frequently browse RedCafe. If I found something from there that's worth mentioning, I usually post it here.
If Anderson does score, don't forget the 5 quid you promised. :rolleyes: I'm joking.
It's a bit crazy that you had to play your game on Sunday, when you have a Tuesday game. I never noticed that. Usually if you're playing on Tuesday, you'll play on Saturday.
Apparently the FA/Sky asked Fergie if they wanted to move the Villa game to the Saturday but he refused.
Anderson can't even score when fit, so I doubt he can get a goal while injured. :erm:
He couldn't hit the target if his life depended on it. Can't Fergie put him on some sort of individual shooting practice? If his shooting was more accurate, he'd be a cracking player.
AgentZero
07-04-2009, 11:57
This Porto game will be good, I've got a feeling about it. Hopefully we might see some of Macheda towards the end, he may even start to be honest since we'll probably give Tevez a rest. He looked absolutely knackered by the end of last match, and considering he had just played international as well, another game 2 days later is a big ask from the nutter.
Anyone here a member on RedCafe or Red Issue ?
Just wondering really.
Prediction: Manchester United 2-0 Porto.
PS: Anderson will score his goal for the season against Porto, his old club. :ninja:
i did...but its hard since your only allowed to be in the newbies section until they recognise you. So i gave up
Acquiesce
07-04-2009, 12:00
United to win 2-0, Evra to score, 85-1, Will Hill.
United to win 2-0, Evra to score, 85-1, Will Hill.
Weren't you telling everyone to put their house on Madrid winning the Champions League :lol:
Molonono1
07-04-2009, 14:12
prediction:2-0
arsenal beat em 4-0 in the group stages at the emirates but i cant see porto playing attacking football tonight
I would go with 2-0 United. Getting the first goal is key, really. If Porto approach the game defensively, as I'm anticipating, we just need to break them down early and it should be a straight-forward victory.
does anyone go on the manutd offcial fourm
Acquiesce
07-04-2009, 17:13
Weren't you telling everyone to put their house on Madrid winning the Champions League :lol:
shhhhussshh:sheep:
Great attacking first half, rare to see at this stage of the competition.
So far Porto looking the more threatening side, wouldn't see surprised if they get another in the second half, the way United's defence is making mistakes.
Weren't you telling everyone to put their house on Madrid winning the Champions League :lol:
Actually it was our garage he was telling us to put on it :D
Original?
07-04-2009, 21:42
prediction:2-0
arsenal beat em 4-0 in the group stages at the emirates but i cant see porto playing attacking football tonight
Best Prediction 2008.
Billy Minof
07-04-2009, 21:52
best Prediction 2008.
2008?
Luis_Garcia
07-04-2009, 22:04
That Hulk lad had a great turn of pace on him.
AgentZero
07-04-2009, 22:47
it seems we cant concentrate for a full 90. Kept drifting in and out of the game. Porto deserved the draw
Billy Minof
07-04-2009, 23:05
it seems we cant concentrate for a full 90. Kept drifting in and out of the game. Porto deserved the draw
I agree, also, what did you make of the Porto penalty shout in the second half?
uA - 1905
07-04-2009, 23:10
He's not going to admit it but it was a blatant peno.
AgentZero
07-04-2009, 23:38
not a pen...:ninja:
Billy Minof
08-04-2009, 00:19
not a pen...:ninja:
:ohmy:
Foxhound
08-04-2009, 05:28
BBC are reporting that Evans is out for the Sunderland game. Hopefully, Rio is fit to play by then.
Molonono1
08-04-2009, 10:17
porto completely surprised me i thought they would play defensively but they completely destroyed us in the first 25 mins.they fully deserved their draw
AgentZero
08-04-2009, 12:11
by far the more entertaining team was porto. Slick passing and movement, something that we see to have lost along with our confidence in defending. I think we've been found out.
wrathchild_uk
08-04-2009, 13:01
I think the last few matches have really shown our lack of quality in defence, were really crying out for a top defender who can come in when either Vidic or Ferdinand are out. cus at the moment we simply cant defend when they dont both play..
Evans looked really good earlier in season, but ever since that 4-1 your defence has been poor.
Everyone at school says Sergio Ramos is moving to Man U soon :unsure:... He would be a terrific signing if that was true. Is he in love with Madrid though?
AgentZero
08-04-2009, 13:23
Yeah i was jerking off to Evans' performance against chelsea at the bridge amongst many others during that unbeaten run. We need more Irwins and less Cafu's
Sickening.
The performance just as much as the result. Ronaldo can just fuck off to Madrid if he's going to be a twat again, he was absolutely shit again last night and everyone in the stadium saw it. Instead of the Viva Ronaldo chant, I heard a few "Fuck Off Ronaldo" chants, and I can't really defend him anymore. His sheer laziness last night was unparelleled, he literally did nothing. There was several times when he would get tackled cleanly, only to complain and then slowly walk 30 yards back whilst being offside the entire time hindering any form of attack we'd try to build. Some guys next to us shouted "Ronaldo makes Berbatov look like he's on wizz" :lol:
Wasn't nice seeing Scholesy play like that though, not sure what he was playing at, just an off game I guess. Defence was obviously a fucking mess, Evans looked nervous constantly, and Sheasy just looked blank, almost as if he needed to be directed, and unfortunately we had no one to direct.
Rooney played well though, was quite a threat on occasions, and tried his very best to win every ball. I thought it was in when he lobbed the goalkeeper from the corner of the box, amazing vision to even look for it, then great skill to be able to execute it that well. Tevez was good when he came on obviously, was always up the arses of the Porto defence and tracked back more than once whenever he'd lost the ball (take not Ronaldo). The goal was so unexpected to be honest 5 minutes from time, was mental how Rooney flicked it on and Tevez powered through - the keeper had no chance at all in fairness.
Lack of concentration though kicked us right in the bollocks at the end, our defence was a mess again and we deserved to be laughed at. Can't blame Neville for the last goal though because I think we'd have all done the same, try and cover the area you believe the ball will go. It was just unfortunate Sheasy flicked it over everyone's head, gutted.
At least now with 2-2, we've got to go all guns blazing next leg in Porto. No sitting back, it has to be well calculated attacking play. Let's just hope Ronaldo wants to be on the pitch next time.
I'm getting increasingly worried about our performances, as they aren't improving in the slightest. Porto played well, but another team could have put 4 past us like Liverpool did. I thought we'd get a kick up the backside after that thrashing, then again after the Fulham humbling. I thought the International break would also do us good, but we were back to playing woefully within 20 minutes against Villa. I expected the Macheda winner to finally give us the confidence boost required for our play to improve but it hasn't.
I've no idea where it's going to come from.
AgentZero
08-04-2009, 22:24
hmm increasingly i feel ROnaldo gone could be beneficial as he thinks hes bigger already.
CRISSGRAN
09-04-2009, 00:31
Yeah I know, Ronaldo is a twat. I mean look at Messi tonight, much better than Ronaldo could hope to ever be, constantly running, beating folk, 2 goals. He doesn't get tackled, dive, then moan that he is hurt etc he just gets up and starts chasing etc
mufcsean
09-04-2009, 01:42
Evans looked really good earlier in season, but ever since that 4-1 your defence has been poor.
Everyone at school says Sergio Ramos is moving to Man U soon :unsure:... He would be a terrific signing if that was true. Is he in love with Madrid though?
Oh my god did you really just say that. Mind you, it's a more reliable source than goal.com
My thoughts on Tuesdays game, Congratulations to Porto, they deserved at least a point. They outplayed us for the first half an hour and the rest of the game was evenly matched in my opinion.
Since that game against Liverpool our defending has been absolutely disgraceful, i know we have had injuries and suspensions since then but the players who have come in are very experienced players, bar Jonny Evans, but he has enough experience and has played a lot this season.
Also since that dreaded day, our passing has been awful, i don't think i have seen us give the ball away so much, even Scholes and Carrick who are usually our better passers were awful.
Like I said though, well done Porto, they came to attack us and we couldn't cope with it, Hulk, Fernando and Rodriguez were brilliant.
And i think that the Tevez/Hulk incident was a penalty, i definitely would have asked for one the other way around.
P.S. - Ronaldo needs to get his act together, i am absolutely sick of seeing him give the ball away and stand there watching the opposition attack, he is a fantastic footballer going forward but doing that is not enough.
At least Ronaldo might feel like he has a point to prove when we go over to Portugal.
I feel like we're really missing Hargreaves.
At least Ronaldo might feel like he has a point to prove when we go over to Portugal.
I feel like we're really missing Hargreaves.
Ronaldo is the type of person who would think that he played well.
I still expect you guys to progress though. If both you and Arsenal meet in the next round, for some reason I think Arsenal will reach the final.
Ronaldo is the type of person who would think that he played well.
I still expect you guys to progress though. If both you and Arsenal meet in the next round, for some reason I think Arsenal will reach the final.
It doesn't matter who gets to the final, as Barca will spank whoever it is. Arsenal I could see getting a rimming more than us, you or the bindippers.
PESFan92
10-04-2009, 02:11
It doesn't matter who gets to the final, as Barca will spank whoever it is. Arsenal I could see getting a rimming more than us, you or the bindippers.
I'm going for a Man Utd - Barca Final.
It seems to me the draws and matches are fixed. I personally wouldn't be surprised if Man Utd beat Porto 3-0.
sukhy2004
10-04-2009, 04:22
wow, Ronaldo's performance was just awful, I can't get over the fact that he was so terrible in the Porto game, his passing is awful and he constantly makes the wrong decision when in possesion. Those ridiculous stepovers annoy me so much! he slows the play down so much, just to do a flick to another player, he just pisses me off, I hate the guy!
I'm going for a Man Utd - Barca Final.
It seems to me the draws and matches are fixed. I personally wouldn't be surprised if Man Utd beat Porto 3-0.
I'd be surprised if we manage to beat anyone, let alone 3-0.
I don't understand why Ronaldo has to do a stepover/flick before he passes the ball. The defenders can just hunt him down. But when he's in top form, which he isn't right now, he can be unstoppable.
Last season he seemed to track back a lot when United weren't in possession, but now he can't be bothered, it seems.
He must think he's more important than the team, I'd be running off with reported 75m in the Summer. Then I'd bring Ribery in.
How can any player be valued that high though :faceplm:?
wrathchild_uk
10-04-2009, 15:09
Apparently Brown and Rafael should be back next weekend...its a shame that we'll probably be out of europe by then.
Foxhound
10-04-2009, 15:51
What about Rio? Is he fit to play tomorrow?
mufcsean
10-04-2009, 16:35
What about Rio? Is he fit to play tomorrow?
I read he might be back for Tuesday
That's decent, our CL game is on the Wednesday mind.
Couldn't get tickets for Sunderland away, they're only allocating us 1,500 tickets. :faceplm: Whereas Boro will be giving us 3,000 thankfully. I really don't know how we'll do tomorrow though after everything that has happened. Whether the players will still be fatigued and whatnot, I almost expect Fergie to rest 2-3 key players like Ronaldo, Scholes and maybe just give Giggs a cameo so he's fit for Wednesday. We're in need of Hargreaves really so we can replace Carrick in the centre, no idea what has happened to his passing lately.
Macheda to play tomorrow too. ;)
Foxhound
10-04-2009, 16:55
I read he might be back for Tuesday
Ah. I guess, it's Vidic and O'shea at centre back then.
sukhy2004
10-04-2009, 17:11
we need Fabio to play! This team is crying out for someone who wants to drive forward with the ball! Please Fergie play Fabio on the left wing against Sunderland! or at right back! or in central midfield! or just play him in attack with Macheda!
Luis_Garcia
11-04-2009, 16:58
Starting to really dislike this kid.
Foxhound
11-04-2009, 17:06
Macheda again! :huh:
Love him. Berbatov was ineffective throughout the match, and Macheda made immediate impact right after he came on. At first, I thought the ball deflected off a Sunderland's defender.
I heard that he's got a song already. I don't know the lyrics, but I'm pretty sure it's to the tune of the Vidic's song. I've never had this much hope of a youth player to succeed since Rossi. Let's hope that he's got the patience to wait for more first-team opportunities in the future.
How bad was the dive by Neville? I couldn't watch the first half because the family were watching a singing competition.
Lord Shrimpeh
11-04-2009, 20:10
Berbatov has done bugger all all this, Macheda would replace him if he wasn't so young. I think we should sell Berba in the close season and buy Tevez.
I'm sure Berbatov has scored the only goal in some 1-0 wins for you all (definitely against Middlesbrough).
If you had watch Tottenham, you shold have known the type of player you were getting and what his style was. Getting rid of him after one season would be a bad decision and Ferguson would no doubt lose some pride.
Phil W.A.F.C
11-04-2009, 20:37
They aint gonna sell Berbatov, he's quality, they're all forgetting he's had two week out with his ankle. I didn't watch it today so i can't comment on his performance but he has been out with injury.
I could literally suck Macheda off right now, the guy has won us 6 points in a week.
*bows*
Macheda woah
Macheda woah
He came from Lazio
He scored a wondergoal
Gash song thought right, definitely need a new one soon.
They aint gonna sell Berbatov, he's quality
Wish he'd start showing it.
Mullet Taylor
11-04-2009, 21:45
i mind ferguson talking about Berbatov making the same impact as Cantona did...abit of a slap to the face of Eric tbh, Cantona is a legend, whereas Berba is just a lazy cocky balding lookin fella. Obviously he is a quality player but his moments of magic and few and far between i reckon.
just noticed Foster was in goal earlier, havent seen the game but why do i get the feeling the goal will be something to do with him ?
wrathchild_uk
11-04-2009, 22:24
I could literally suck Macheda off right now, the guy has won us 6 points in a week.
*bows*
Macheda woah
Macheda woah
He came from Lazio
He scored a wondergoal
Gash song thought right, definitely need a new one soon.
[EDIT]
accourding to the Manutd.com forum they were singing
"Hey Macheda you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind, MACHEDA"
AgentZero
12-04-2009, 00:45
i fucking hate how we looked so rattled after the sunderland goal. Did we sack some defense coaching staff or something? FUCK!
But much love for Macheda
Kiko,Kiko
off to work he goes
he run so fast
then scores last gasps
kiko,kiko,kiko,kiko
...ill get my coat
mufcsean
12-04-2009, 02:04
i mind ferguson talking about Berbatov making the same impact as Cantona did...abit of a slap to the face of Eric tbh, Cantona is a legend, whereas Berba is just a lazy cocky balding lookin fella. Obviously he is a quality player but his moments of magic and few and far between i reckon.
just noticed Foster was in goal earlier, havent seen the game but why do i get the feeling the goal will be something to do with him ?
Because they usually are :faceplm:
How shit was O' Shea today.
Lovely goal by Scholes and Macheda is amazing, i don't know what else to say, we really need to pick our game up as our defending is awful at the moment
NextBigThing
12-04-2009, 09:36
neville dive was bad really bad no contact and late dive
Nifty1Pound50
12-04-2009, 10:43
Berbatov looks so disinterested it's untrue. I know, when he was at Spurs, everyone said that was part of his game - but he also combined it with some dynamic performances. Watching him at United, it's hard to see where the brilliance is going to come from.
He makes the £18m Tottenham paid for David Bentley's services look like a bargain, at times.
I'm amazed that Ferguson hasn't sat him down and told him to get his act together. He's not really a Fergie player. The big name signings Ferguson makes are always passionate. Berbatov genuinely looks like he doesn't want to be involved.
The fact that the two strikers who generally play alongside him/instead of him are both extremely hard workers just highlights this further.
I dunno, he seemed pretty passionate when scoring the winner against Bolton.
I too have played with players like him, and trust me they're passionate. Anyway, I don't think Berba is the player who's commitment we should be questioning...
AgentZero
12-04-2009, 10:51
i think Fergie needs to bench him for a few games. Tevez and Rooney surely cant be worse.
The guy has been out for a fortnight, and gets a surprise inclusion and everyone bashes him? Like (I think it was Joel) said, he's scored some important goals for us this season, and to be honest we played better yesterday with him than we have the past 3 or 4 games without.
AgentZero
12-04-2009, 11:02
well he was rushed in then, right? So im all for him earning his spot after an injury layoff.
Berbatov helps the team out in his own way, the problem with this is that football is a team sport. So when hes behaving the way he does it seems like he is not bothered when that may not be the case. Hes like an artist he expresses himself on the pitch moments of magic will be followed by some moments of nothing, you have accept it, since these sort of players don't change.
Personally I don't think hes done that bad this season but I'm very happy to see that Man Utd fans are dissapointed. You lot deserve each other.
AgentZero
12-04-2009, 11:25
touche' mofo. But we can only have one spot for a lazy, egocentric player in the team and its been filled by Cris.
Dragonfly
12-04-2009, 12:23
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01379/federico_macheda_1379386c.jpg
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/5113067/Federico-Macheda-is-Manchester-Uniteds-latest-bright-teenager-at-Old-Trafford.html
AgentZero
12-04-2009, 12:34
id be lapping it up too if i were like that four years ago.
Kiko! Love the guy already.
KIKO! Bought a shirt against Porto of Macheda from one of those side-street vendors outside the pubs.
By the way, is anyone a member of Red Cafe ? A member on there (Ralphie) has a spare ticket to Porto away and I was wondering if anyone could ask the pricing, flight costs and what hotel our fans are staying at on my behalf if it isn't too much bother. Thanks to anyone kind enough. ;)
CRISSGRAN
13-04-2009, 13:13
He looks like a decent player just hope all the glitz doesn't go to his head, last thing they need are 2 Cristiano attitudes at the club. Hopefully the more experienced players will keep him grounded, the way Messi is at Barca, just loves to play, no scandals.
mufcsean
14-04-2009, 02:41
http://toneyandco.myshopify.com/products/kiko-macheda-tee
Very much want :dribble:
Very nice, not sure I could depart with £35 for a Macheda shirt though. Looks flash though, could probably get away with wearing it on a night out since Kiko isn't too famous yet.
uA - 1905
14-04-2009, 03:39
Jesus christ that shirt
Surely there'll be some cheap ones going with Kiko on at car boot sales, places like that?
I wouldn't pay £35 for a black shirt with some writing on :no:, soz.
mufcsean
14-04-2009, 12:49
No i wouldn't pay that for it either.
Apparently Porto's manager is banned for tomorrow's game, and that includes any sort of interaction with staff or players from now until after the game.
Sounds like bollocks mate, even if he's banned for tomorrows match, it will purely be from attending the dugout. There would be no way at all anyone could prevent him from talking to his players or staff, he's probably even taking a training session with them as we speak.
Rio's fit to start, thank God. He makes a huge difference to the defence and keeps Vidic in check.
Anderson and Rafael both back in the squad too, these two could add a hell of a lot of energy to the side for the rest of the season.
Foxhound
15-04-2009, 05:00
Rio's fit to start, thank God. He makes a huge difference to the defence and keeps Vidic in check.
Anderson and Rafael both back in the squad too, these two could add a hell of a lot of energy to the side for the rest of the season.
Brilliant news. Now that Anderson is traveling with the squad, I hope that he will score a goal.
AgentZero
15-04-2009, 09:57
shooting on target is first, nevermind a goal.
Billy Minof
15-04-2009, 10:00
Sounds like bollocks mate, even if he's banned for tomorrows match, it will purely be from attending the dugout. There would be no way at all anyone could prevent him from talking to his players or staff, he's probably even taking a training session with them as we speak.
I agree, he is only banned from the dugout though as I was watching SSN this morning and they mentioned it.
Rio's fit to start, thank God. He makes a huge difference to the defence and keeps Vidic in check.
Anderson and Rafael both back in the squad too, these two could add a hell of a lot of energy to the side for the rest of the season.
Rio should make a difference but he is only back from injury, Porto are quick and this could do more than good to Uniteds Season if he were to pick up another injury, also good to see Rafeal back, as for Anderson, I feel he is a waste of space, a good battler but adds very little to your attack.
Great goal by ronaldo. Summit like 36-37 metres out.
hopefully we can kill the match off early in the second half.
wrathchild_uk
15-04-2009, 20:57
Brilliant news. Now that Anderson is traveling with the squad, I hope that he will score a goal.
He was almost through on goal before..thought for a split second he was gonna score..
Dig that out you son bitch.
Why oh why must United do this to me everytime? :(
AgentZero
15-04-2009, 21:57
what? win away in portugal. So good to finally have a steady defensive performance.
Phil W.A.F.C
15-04-2009, 23:17
From 39.7 yards out that goal was unbelievable. As good as Messi is, i don't think he could of scored that.
AgentZero
15-04-2009, 23:40
yeah look at those tiny legs, i dont think it could generate half the power.
Isnt anyone else concerned that we have the Arsebanditos in the run in to the league and 2 semi final legs in a few weeks. Id place more concern on not conceeding the prem rather than the champions league.
sukhy2004
16-04-2009, 03:13
From 39.7 yards out that goal was unbelievable. As good as Messi is, i don't think he could of scored that.
Probably not, but Ronaldo wouldn't be able to score a goal like Messi scored against Getafe :cool:
Meyyappan
16-04-2009, 05:31
In all fairness it was a world class goal(a moment of magic) without which utd would have been out.The Arse Banditos shall tire u out as hell,u have the lucky chance of meeting them at wembley,twice at old traffic road and once at the emirates.
And when is the fa cup final played before the league ends?
Foxhound
16-04-2009, 06:04
He was almost through on goal before..thought for a split second he was gonna score..
The one against Blackburn in the Carling Cup? I thought he would go for glory, but instead, he chose to pass the ball for Tevez to score his third (I think).
I couldn't watch the match last night because I had to study for my Physics paper 4 exam. Gutted that I missed, on which people describe, a great goal by Ronaldo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0V7H56Ugag
wrathchild_uk
16-04-2009, 12:11
The one against Blackburn in the Carling Cup? I thought he would go for glory, but instead, he chose to pass the ball for Tevez to score his third (I think).
I couldn't watch the match last night because I had to study for my Physics paper 4 exam. Gutted that I missed, on which people describe, a great goal by Ronaldo.
Nah i was on about last night...Anderson played a one-two with someone on the edge of portos box and he ran through on goal but the return pass didn't get to him.
AgentZero
16-04-2009, 13:22
Nah i was on about last night...Anderson played a one-two with someone on the edge of portos box and he ran through on goal but the return pass didn't get to him.
he squeezed a through ball in between 2 defenders to get to evra in the first half was of http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/148/wsmile.gif (http://img24.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wsmile.gif) quality
Meyyappan
16-04-2009, 15:20
The one against Blackburn in the Carling Cup? I thought he would go for glory, but instead, he chose to pass the ball for Tevez to score his third (I think).
I couldn't watch the match last night because I had to study for my Physics paper 4 exam. Gutted that I missed, on which people describe, a great goal by Ronaldo.
Are you doing your S.C or H.S.C?
http://i44.tinypic.com/29f2dxx.gif
First time I've seen the goal. Brilliant. Although he shoots enough so one of them has to go in.
Foxhound
16-04-2009, 15:58
Are you doing your S.C or H.S.C?
I've got no idea what that stands for but, I'm doing
Cambridge International Examination (CIE)--> International A And AS Level.
I've just finished watching this: http://www.skysportsdvdshop.co.uk/images/cache/cd8a707b38c21e29133004f98b2219 1a.jpg
Man, that was very enjoyable to watch. It tells the story of his early life up until that night in Moscow. It makes me to appreciate him more every time I see him in the United line-ups.
uA - 1905
16-04-2009, 19:35
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2839_180497920103_780240103_64 80252_1066353_n.jpg
It's a shame you only got fucked literally.
Acquiesce
16-04-2009, 19:40
Picture caption thread big dog, it will do well!!!
Picture caption thread big dog, it will do well!!!
Think it speaks for itself!
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2839_180497920103_780240103_64 80252_1066353_n.jpg
It's a shame you only got fucked literally.
The look of terror on Anderson's face. :lol:
wrathchild_uk
16-04-2009, 20:57
In the words of Alan Pardew he's absouletly raped him.. :ninja:
AgentZero
16-04-2009, 23:00
what a menace that Bruno Alves was...strong in the air and has a quality boot.
mufcsean
17-04-2009, 01:29
what a menace that Bruno Alves was...strong in the air and has a quality boot.
I don't think he lost out on one single header the whole match, he certainly is a no nonsense defender who likes to get the job done.
AgentZero
17-04-2009, 01:32
Wouldn't be surprised if big clubs come a calling soon. Arsenal could do with someone of consistency like him.
mufcsean
17-04-2009, 01:33
Wouldn't be surprised if big clubs come a calling soon. Arsenal could do with someone of consistency like him.
It's funny you should say that, i said exactly the same yesterday.
AgentZero
17-04-2009, 01:39
:ok:great minds think alike...although i wiki'd him and hes 27 so not too many years left for the big money move.
mufcsean
17-04-2009, 01:50
:ok:great minds think alike...although i wiki'd him and hes 27 so not too many years left for the big money move.
This is getting a it weird. I did the same as i dont really know much about him.
AgentZero
17-04-2009, 02:01
Weird, maybe coincidence...i think so...what else do we do when we need info..either google or wiki. Also love the fact that theyve crept into common lexicon as a verb.
Wouldn't be surprised if big clubs come a calling soon. Arsenal could do with someone of consistency like him.
Yeah, that back pass last week was sensational.
Yeah, that back pass last week was sensational.
:lol: Exactly what I just thought.
AgentZero
17-04-2009, 13:09
Players are good as their last game..and his last game he was a menace.
mufcsean
17-04-2009, 16:33
Yeah, that back pass last week was sensational.
:lol: Yeah that was bad but apart from that one mistake he was very impressive over the 2 ties.
What are everybody's predictions for Sunday, I think Everton will give us a really good game, i think we will win it by one goal.
Phatmann
17-04-2009, 16:36
Man Utd 2-1 Everton. Macheda to come on after 65 mins and score the winner. Saha to get injured if he isn't already.
Near enough every mate I talk to now predicts a score, and it finishes with "Macheda to come on and get the winner". :lol: I love it.
As for performers, I can see Darren Fletcher playing since he's been our most consistent midfielder in the past month or so. Up front, I expect Tevez to be playing to be honest, not sure who with though considering Rooney played out wide against Porto.
sukhy2004
17-04-2009, 21:40
I think Fergie will put this team out to face Everton -
VDS
O'Shea--Rio--Vidic--Evra
Ronaldo--Carrick--Scholes--Park
Rooney--Tevez
Foxhound
18-04-2009, 03:29
Some players will be rested. The line up may be similar to the Carling Cup squad, so it'll be Tevez and Welbeck up front. I'd like to see Tosic to play as well. Macheda will probably be on the bench.
Predicted score line, 2-1 or 1-0
Mullet Taylor
18-04-2009, 04:25
I'm looking forward to see how Vidic and Rio handle Afroman and Cahill. Cahill is such a goal poser in the box, the many headers this guy wins for a small fella is unreal. United aren't out of the woods yet in terms of playing sexy football again. I can't see them thumping Everton.
I have a feeling Edwin is going to have an iffy game, last week against villa, Everton always had a man right infront of Brad Friedel which caused him alot of problems. If everton will score it'll be from a setpeice
I want United to win though, i'd just love to witness them win 4 trophies. Something not been done in britain since Celtic in 67 ? ( Scottish League, Scottish Cup, Scottish league Cup & European Cup. i know its all changed since then but still, celtic hold the record ! )
i fancy big O'Shea to seal the win for Utd. When i read Hunter praising Darren Flecture i cringed, i don't rate him at all. Hes just been so lucky this year with injuries to Hargreaves. I think Liam Miller has more ability than fletcure in the middle of the park but Miller never got a chance. Darren does get stuck in but thats all there is to his game imo
Ok, now I'm slightly concerned;
Foster, Rafael, Ferdinand, Vidic, Fabio, Gibson, Anderson, Park, Welbeck, Tevez, Macheda.
First time the twins have started in the first team together? Should be pretty interesting.
I'm very surprised by the lineup. I have a feeling it could work though.
Don't think I've ever seen Gibson. :huh:
This will be very interesting to see. Wish I could be there but I'm managing my money with a focus on our 2 leg tie against Arsenal in the Champions League.
Cannot wait to see Fabio though, I just hope he lives up to the expectations. Will be wonderful to see if our youngsters play well together.
Will be also interesting to see how Mike Riley copes with the event as he's had nothing but stick all week. I just hope it doesn't all get to his head in the negative way of him refusing to give us decisions to try and prove a point.
On the bright side of not being able to get there, at least I can just relax in a comfy seat and "be an armchair fan" for today! Bottle of cold Carlsberg at the ready. :cool: Would prefer a cider with weather like this, but of course I just have to be satisfied with what's stocked in the fridge.
CaptainCabinet
19-04-2009, 17:29
Will be also interesting to see how Mike Riley copes with the event as he's had nothing but stick all week. I just hope it doesn't all get to his head in the negative way of him refusing to give us decisions to try and prove a point.
There's your answer.
Ferguson's reaction was great.
Lord Shrimpeh
19-04-2009, 18:43
Well the lottery of the penalties could have resulted in anything. I thought we played well and matched Everton but we weren't strong enough to win it. Fergie with his team selection only gave us 50:50 chance at best. Berbatov really pisses me off, he's been shit and lazy all season. I think we should sell him. I don't think I've ever gone off a united player so quickly. Even Saha I gave more chance to.
wrathchild_uk
19-04-2009, 18:51
Well i think that penalty from Berbatov pretty much sum's him up...
Foxhound
19-04-2009, 18:53
Why didn't Tevez take the first penalty? I'm disappointed with the defeat, but Everton deserved to go through. Vidic seems to be back to his best. Poor penalty from Berbatov.
The youngsters did well, I thought. It was nice to see Welbeck and Macheda linking up.
Oh, Riley has to be the worst referee in the PL. He fucked up lots of decisions for both teams after the huge penalty call from Welbeck.
Yeah I don't rate Mike Riley as a ref at all. I think he's really shit.
edit: oh yeah, good match :D
Phil W.A.F.C
19-04-2009, 18:57
Fergie's cracking up? Park,Gibson,Anderson and Welbeck your midfield in a semi-final of the F.A Cup. Ronaldo didn't travel and Rooney faked an injury. Berbatov strolls up to a penalty like it's already in the back of the net. Rio takes a penalty over a player that has took them this season in Tevez. It's beyond me.
Cannon ball
19-04-2009, 18:58
So much for showing respect to a big club, eh?
Why didn't Tevez take the first penalty? I'm disappointed with the defeat, but Everton deserved to go through. Vidic seems to be back to his best. Poor penalty from Berbatov.
The youngsters did well, I thought. It was nice to see Welbeck and Macheda linking up.
Oh, Riley has to be the worst referee in the PL. He fucked up lots of decisions for both teams after the huge penalty call from Welbeck.
That would surely go to Rob Styles, but there's a big queue behind him. Riley was obviously influenced by what was said during the week.
I'm glad all the talk from the media about Utd winning everything can stop now. Even Fergie was ruling it out. The FA Cup clearly wasn't a priority, Wednesday's game is much more important for Utd.
mufcsean
19-04-2009, 19:05
Awful Penalty by Berbatov, that summed his season up for me.
Should have been a penalty on Welbeck, Teddy summed it up well, if he wasn't fouled why on earth would he have gone down, it was open net
Oh, Riley has to be the worst referee in the PL.
That's a bit harsh on a fellow Man Yoo fan, isn't it?
Van Der Sar should've been on there, not Foster. I thought the back four were strong enough. Fergie got it wrong today though. Good to see Everton win.
That's a bit harsh on a fellow Man Yoo fan, isn't it?
He's about as much a United fan as Jin.
Good performance from the majority of the team, especially the centre back partnership. Immaculate throughout (bar Rio's pen..). On another day Macheda or Wellbeck would have punished the defence with a goal, but Everton were just as impressive in defence. I did think Fergie got the team wrong, as that XI would stand a better chance of beating Pompey on Wednesday than Everton.
Berbatov's a fucking disgrace.
Foxhound
19-04-2009, 19:21
That's a bit harsh on a fellow Man Yoo fan, isn't it?
If he was a fan, he would always give decisions on United's favour, regardless how dodgy it looks, wouldn't it?
As for Berbatov, he's got a lot to do to win the fans over, because he hasn't proved the fans that he's well worth 30 million. Well, if he's interested to do so.
He couldn't give two shits, a mistake signing him up in the first place, for that amount of money. Ridiculous.
He's been shit every time I've seen him playing. He doesn't fit into the United side, doesn't have that urgency to work for the team and buzz around and give the defenders a nightmare. United have the funds to get Tevez on a permanent deal yet? I know who I'd rather have in my team :faceplm: Tevez is immense, he's perfect for United.
If he was a fan, he would always give decisions on United's favour, regardless how dodgy it looks, wouldn't it?
Well if he is actually mad about Man U, then he would be biased towards them. But he wants to keep his job though doesn't he?
Lord Shrimpeh
19-04-2009, 19:39
The problem with tevez is he doesn't always come up with the goals and is a bit too similar to Rooney. I can see why Fergie bought Berbatov as there is room for a player like him.... it's just he doesn't give a shit and is crap. Machenda is much better, we should sell Berba get Tevez permanently and see how Machenda comes on.
If he was a fan, he would always give decisions on United's favour, regardless how dodgy it looks, wouldn't it?
He can be a fan and still be professional. I wouldn't want him to make decisions in our favour, we can win without that. Plus he would get sacked. So would be kinda pointless. He'd win us one match and then be in the dole queue.
Foxhound
19-04-2009, 19:44
He can be a fan and still be professional. I wouldn't want him to make decisions in our favour, we can win without that. Plus he would get sacked. So would be kinda pointless. He'd win us one match and then be in the dole queue.
Please excuse my post earlier. It's 2.45 in the morning & I can't think properly.
Luis_Garcia
19-04-2009, 20:16
Without Vidic and Ferdinand, yous guys would have been stuffed. Fergie's surely shown no respect to Everton by playing a withdrawn team full of youngsters in the semi-final? Or maybe he's cracking up? Nope if the situation was reversed and Rafa was in his position then of course, but not Sir Alex.
Macheda is much better than Berbatov? Wow.
Berbatov used the exact same penalty technique in the Carling Cup Final against us last year and he scored. That's just the way he takes them, it's not about him not being bothered, it's just he is confident enough to think that he is going to send the keeper the wrong way.
Tbh, this is how Berbatov played for Spurs, so Ferguson should have known what he was buying.
Can't say I am upset though. It'd be disrespectful to say that we have an easy final with Everton in it, but our chances are a lot higher of winning the trophy now.
wrathchild_uk
19-04-2009, 20:32
Also i'd rather us get knocked out now than potentially lose the cup to Chelsea in the final..
Without Vidic and Ferdinand, yous guys would have been stuffed. Fergie's surely shown no respect to Everton by playing a withdrawn team full of youngsters in the semi-final? Or maybe he's cracking up? Nope if the situation was reversed and Rafa was in his position then of course, but not Sir Alex.
What are you on about man? He looked calm and collective all afternoon..
http://i44.tinypic.com/21o4rjs.jpg
Also i'd rather us get knocked out now than potentially lose the cup to Chelsea in the final..
Yeah, that's believable..:erm:
uA - 1905
19-04-2009, 20:35
Also i'd rather us get knocked out now than potentially lose the cup to Chelsea in the final..
jesus wept
Macheda is much better than Berbatov? Wow.
Berbatov used the exact same penalty technique in the Carling Cup Final against us last year and he scored. That's just the way he takes them, it's not about him not being bothered, it's just he is confident enough to think that he is going to send the keeper the wrong way.
Tbh, this is how Berbatov played for Spurs, so Ferguson should have known what he was buying.
Can't say I am upset though. It'd be disrespectful to say that we have an easy final with Everton in it, but our chances are a lot higher of winning the trophy now.
Berbatov has been pretty much dog shit this season. He wasn't like this at all for Spurs, similar style maybe, but it was clear that he was putting in effort, and this was reflected by his goals and his importance to the team. Maybe it's because he can't handle the rotation system up front, or maybe it's just because he's bottled the big time.
As for the penalty, fuck my life. If there was ever a moment that would enrage a United fan, that was it. Fair enough Rio missed, but being a CB and stepping up I can accept that. Berbatov being a striker practices shooting at the goal everyday, and has done for his entire life. Then to stroll up to the ball and basically flick it with his toe towards Howard is an insult to the fans who travelled down to Wembley. I don't care whether he's that confident he'll send the keeper the wrong way - the penalty was absolutely shit, end of. It was placed in no particular direction, there was literally no power on it, and it just further gives everyone ammunition to slate his lack of effort.
I just don't understand our penalty taker choices though, Rio and Vidic ? I mean, did no one else have the balls to step up to the plate. I'm just delighted for Vidic that he scored and furthermore put in a monstrous performance.
You say he put in more effrot at Spurs, but I don't agree. He never tracked back to help the defence or did he ever run around the pitch like Rooney, he's always had this style. He is probably struggling not being the main man anymore.
I can understand why you Man United fans would be fed up with this, but the truth of the matter is, this is Berbatov, there isn't much different than him at Spurs and him at Man United, except at Spurs he was more comfortable, as he was the main man, which allowed him to score the goals.
That, plus he doesn't have Robbie Keane partnering him anymore. That was one of the best partnerships in the league when they were at Spurs, Man Utd don't really have someone like that who he can link up with. Keane used to always be on the end of Berbatov's flick ons, through balls, they knew where each other were at all times. Rooney and Tevez like to drop deep and run all over the place. Berbatov is having to do a lot of work by himself.
He may still come good.....next season.
That, plus he doesn't have Robbie Keane partnering him anymore. That was one of the best partnerships in the league when they were at Spurs, Man Utd don't really have someone like that who he can link up with. Keane used to always be on the end of Berbatov's flick ons, through balls, they knew where each other were at all times. Rooney and Tevez like to drop deep and run all over the place. Berbatov is having to do a lot of work by himself.
He may still come good.....next season.
Exactly.
It's so easy to say that he is "shit and doesn't care", but you have to look at the whole situation before judging. I expect nothing less from one half of the Best Football Contributors though :smug:
Billy Minof
19-04-2009, 21:56
Its amazing the way a Penalty and change soooo many peoples opinions......I said months ago that Berbatov was shit and he wouldnt fit in at Man Utd and I nearly got gang raped by ye for it now its ye calling him shit and I am going to defend him.........As was said above ye knew what ye were buying in Berbatov but Fergie still cant fit him into the team, I think he is too slow to play with United as with Man Utd its all bang bang bang, 1 touch keep the ball get it wide and cross it in which isnt Berbatovs strong point, also when he was with Spurs he wasnt recieving as much of the ball and wasnt as tightly marked as he is now playing with United and if you dont give Berbatov time and space you kill his game although he isnt doing too bad with ye and as Joel said he may come good next season once he speeds up his game.
Exactly.
It's so easy to say that he is "shit and doesn't care", but you have to look at the whole situation before judging. I expect nothing less from one half of the Best Football Contributors though :smug:
Just doing my job. :smug:
AgentZero
20-04-2009, 00:00
i beleive in berba and i think the best is yet to be seen. 13 goals thus far and something close to 9 assists isnt a 'disgraceful' return.
Also for the pen thing i dont expect the young'ns to step up and take one
as the team ended up with
12 Ben Foster
21 Rafael
5 Rio Ferdinand
15 Nemanja Vidic
20 Fabio Da Silva (Evra)
28 Darron Gibson
8 Anderson
13 Ji-Sung Park (Scholes)
19 Danny Welbeck
32 Carlos Tevez
41 Federico Macheda (Berbatov)
the ones in bold are players that (one expects to) have stepped up should the first team played. No Giggs, Carrick, Rooney and Ronaldo kind lead to Vidic and Rio having to take one.
Gibson has a nice strike, so I thought he'd have taken one. Also thought Scholes would have taken one, but then again, I can't remember the last time he has taken a penalty.
Foxhound
20-04-2009, 05:08
He may still come good.....next season.
Hopefully. It's one reason why I'm not going to join the "Sell Berbatov" brigade just yet.
AgentZero
20-04-2009, 09:38
its ridiculousy to.
uA - 1905
20-04-2009, 09:59
I'd definitely sell him this summer to at least get back some of that 31 million (big LOL). I imagine Real will be looking to buy a striker, Inter as well with Adriano gone mad, perhaps Juve, Milan and Barca as well but not as likely. He's 28, getting lazier by the minute and the sooner you lot offload him more likely you'll get a good price for him.
Gibson has a nice strike, so I thought he'd have taken one. Also thought Scholes would have taken one, but then again, I can't remember the last time he has taken a penalty.
He rarely ever converts penalties. Last one was against Arsenal in 2005 (saved), and I can only remember one more of his in 1998 which he blazed over.
its ridiculousy to.
I joined it September 1st. :faceplm:
nath_scfc
20-04-2009, 10:11
He rarely ever converts penalties. Last one was against Arsenal in 2005 (saved), and I can only remember one more of his in 1998 which he blazed over.
I joined it September 1st. :faceplm:
I remember our conversation about that. Saying you needed Klaas instead.
We rule. :smug:
Billy Minof
20-04-2009, 21:14
Gibson/Anderson/Wellbeck and Scholes should all have taken one...Gibson is a dead ball specialist/Anderson has a strong left peg/Wellbeck is a striker and should have been doing all he could get to get to take one and Scholes is experianced enough and good enough to score from 12 yards but then again there is no excuse for any professional footballer not to score from 12 yards.
mufcsean
20-04-2009, 21:35
Hopefully. It's one reason why I'm not going to join the "Sell Berbatov" brigade just yet.
it was a bad penalty and he has had a poor season but it is silly to sell him.
One difference between Berbatov at Tottenham and Man Utd is that he seems to be playing a bit deeper than he did at us. Often when played with Rooney or Tevez he has dropped back and allowed the other to run beyond. Wheras at Spurs he was more of a target man, we would play balls into him either high or to feet and he would bring others into the game. He is having to play less with his back to goal, this was one of his main strengths.
As for the penalty, thats how he takes them, hes scored many times doing it. He wasn't trying to miss and had he scored nobody would have questioned his technique so I don't understand how anyone would be so critical.
If and when you sell Berbatov I would be surprised if you get half what you paid for him even if its at the end of this season. I'm glad the way things are working out for him though, if anyone deserves to fail its him.
As for the penalty, thats how he takes them, hes scored many times doing it. He wasn't trying to miss and had he scored nobody would have questioned his technique so I don't understand how anyone would be so critical.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, and I can't understand why most Man Utd fans are flaming him for taking it the way he always does :erm:
I agree with this wholeheartedly, and I can't understand why most Man Utd fans are flaming him for taking it the way he always does :erm:
The reason is why most coincedentally support the most successful team of the last 20 years.
AgentZero
20-04-2009, 23:14
The reason is why most coincedentally support the most successful team of the last 20 years.you sneaky sly little devil...well said previous to that post however.
I think the time to judge berba is this time around next year, the first season at a big club is rather tentative for some.
uA - 1905
20-04-2009, 23:27
The reason is why most coincedentally support the most successful team of the last 20 years.
:thumbsup:
Brilliant article I came across the other day here: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/man-united-men-share-in-the-miracle-of-martyrdom-1386539.html
and one more thing: http://i42.tinypic.com/wcoggz.gif :lol:
:thumbsup:
Brilliant article I came across the other day here: http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/man-united-men-share-in-the-miracle-of-martyrdom-1386539.html
and one more thing: http://i42.tinypic.com/wcoggz.gif :lol:
:lol:
One difference between Berbatov at Tottenham and Man Utd is that he seems to be playing a bit deeper than he did at us. Often when played with Rooney or Tevez he has dropped back and allowed the other to run beyond. Wheras at Spurs he was more of a target man, we would play balls into him either high or to feet and he would bring others into the game. He is having to play less with his back to goal, this was one of his main strengths.
As for the penalty, thats how he takes them, hes scored many times doing it. He wasn't trying to miss and had he scored nobody would have questioned his technique so I don't understand how anyone would be so critical.
I said pretty much the same thing on the Sky Sports website, but they never published it.
He does drop too deep, but to be honest although he isn't having the impact some of us would have wanted, we ironically enough seem to play much better with him in the team.
Just seen this on the Cafe:
K0CiS8xtmFo
:chanlaugh:
Evra is now officially my favourite person on the planet.
Hahaha Carlitos' face.
Pat's a bit of a legend.
:lol:
Im sure he didnt get hit that hard, he swells like a peach!
They seem like actually genuinely nice guys. The 3 of them. The whole translation thing is brilliant.
Yeah and that considering Tevez hasnt really caught onto the language already, im sure he has picked up some phrases though. I remember our first season back in the PL and it was Marlon Harewood, Nigel Reo-Coker and Benayoun who were the jokers of the pack saying that they used to take the piss out of Anton Ferdinand and Sheringham.
AgentZero
21-04-2009, 22:37
good vid hunter...yeah love Paddy, says 'No Respect' a lot i remember that cooking thing someone posted.
Wow. Park delivers the best "Oh my God" ever.
good vid hunter...yeah love Paddy, says 'No Respect' a lot i remember that cooking thing someone posted.
(Park points to Evra and Tevez and says they're gay in Korean)
Evra: Translate, translate, what did he say ?
Park: ...You're gay together
(Evra looks shocked, Tevez shakes his head)
Evra: Gay ? Aww naww!
(Evra points to his wedding ring)
Evra: Wife, baby... No respect.
:chanlaugh:
AgentZero
22-04-2009, 01:05
someone tell Tevez to not shoot projectiles at peoples faces unless its Torres or Gerrard. I though at first he was just nursing a cold sore then it dawned on me that giant popper thing was shot in his face. :faceplm:
sukhy2004
22-04-2009, 02:25
that is the best video ever!
AgentZero
22-04-2009, 03:22
Evra:nanon paboy inmida ahhh... easy!!..*procced to give Ji a hand shake*
Park: It means, im stupid
Evra:.......ahhh no, no....is true?...ah no, no respect, no respect
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