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I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt this season to be honest as he's been due a knee operation for months I believe, he's just had to play through the pain due to our already injury-ridden squad. After surgery and recovery, if he's still as wasteful and non-existent throughout next season, I don't think there's any question Fergie will look to offload him. The only problem is that after paying around £30m for him, we're undoubtedly looking at a heavy loss, unfortunately.
Foxhound
10-05-2010, 06:54
I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt this season to be honest as he's been due a knee operation for months I believe, he's just had to play through the pain due to our already injury-ridden squad. After surgery and recovery, if he's still as wasteful and non-existent throughout next season, I don't think there's any question Fergie will look to offload him. The only problem is that after paying around £30m for him, we're undoubtedly looking at a heavy loss, unfortunately.
If he does leave this summer, I can see him going to Germany, possibly to Schalke. I think that Kuranyi is leaving to a Russian club. We'd probably get around £15m max.
As for United not winning the league, I'm not too disappointed. I didn't predict United to win it at the start of the season. I got 2 out of 3 predictions right, which was, not winning the league, and getting knocked out off the Champions' League at the quarter-final. The only one that I didn't get it right was, winning the FA Cup.
Roll on next season.
NextBigThing
10-05-2010, 10:49
He did assist Giggs to score though against Stoke. The occasional brilliance ain't gonna be enough eh? The fact that we paid 30 million for him.
No the occasional brilliance isnt good enough. Tbh we need someone to score as when Rooney is injured or rested we had no one scoring goals for us. I wouldnt be sad to see him leave during the summer but im happy to give him another year to prove himself.
I would really like to see a creative midfield come in during the summer, my number 1 target would be Modric but it wouldnt be cheap especially after the transfers of Berba and carrick.
Another Striker, i know we got quite a few youngsters coming in so i cant see it happening.
And i would also like to get David Silva.
We wont be buying any huge stars anytime soon though.
wrathchild_uk
10-05-2010, 14:30
The Telegraph's review of our season is quite an interesting read..
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/7693354/Manchester-United-Premier-League-season-review-2009-10.html
Worst player: Dimitar Berbatov
The Bulgarian has appeared crushed by the pressure of being United’s £30.75m record buy. Just 12 goals all season, none in the Champions League or against a top seven team, highlight his dismal campaign. Recent performances have been awful and he has simply failed to deliver.
Brazilian midfielder Anderson, sidelined until next season with a cruciate ligament injury, deserves a dishonourable mention too.
One of the stand out parts for me..
I personally think Carrick has been a bigger disappointment than Berbatov. Berbatov has always found himself in and out of the team as Fergie opts to change between 4-4-2 and 4-5-1, depending on the type of game. Carrick has been out of the team because he's simply been poor.
Still expected more from Berba this season though.
Worst player of the season was Michael Carrick, by a country mile. Berbatov was disappointing, to say the least, but Michael Carrick was a continual liability from the minute this season got under way, and to a much larger degree.
Berbatov was in and out of the team, even after promising displays. That would have affected his confidence. He would also be played as a lone striker, a role he doesn't suit. That affected his abiliy to dictate the game by taking away from his strengths. And he was playing much of the season on a bad knee that requires surgery. None of that excuses the great chances he failed to put away in recent matches but, when things aren't going your way that's what happens.
Berbatov is a good player, no doubt about it. But whether he will ever make the grade at Manchester United is another matter. It's going to be hanging over his head now and it may be too far gone to step out of the disappointment, the lack of confidence, the growing discontent from the supporters, etc. I don't doubt that he'll go somewhere else, sort his knee out and get fully fit, then go on to play week in and week out to brilliant standards. He's got the Diego Forlan about him. It just didn't go his way for various reasons and he may not be mentally strong enough to put it behind him and push on. Or he may simply not get the chance to.
Whats everyones thoughts about Berbatov?
Voiced my opinion enough times this season already... bored of doing it now.
I personally think Carrick has been a bigger disappointment than Berbatov.
Not for me, I was frustrated by his purchase from day one. Overpriced and certainly not the wonderful distributor of the ball he was lauded to be.
The main difference was that I had hopes for Berba. Carrick? Never.
You're probably right, Fick. And ultimately I suppose it doesn't matter which of them secures top spot when they're both first and second on the list of players who need to go in the summer.
I'm hoping every single day that I wake up and see that Harry Redknapp has agreed to take Michael Carrick off our hands, due to his Champions League experience and the fact he is a fan of that balloon Carrick.
wrathchild_uk
10-05-2010, 19:50
It would be even better to wake up and see that Harry's taken Carrick & Berbatov off our hands!
The main difference was that I had hopes for Berba. Carrick? Never.
I didn't have hopes for either, but at least Carrick impressed me his first two seasons! I want no business in buying from Spurs and their overpriced players again, but watch us go over the odds and out of our way for Modric.
I expect Foster and Tosic will both be leaving this summer, then one or two of the reserves (why did we buy De Laet exactly?). Unfortunately it wouldn't surprise me if Carrick and Berbatov both remained.
mufcsean
10-05-2010, 21:17
I think you are right there Guillermo, Foster has more or less talked his way out as has Tosic, Neither are good enough anyway, which is a shame (foster i mean), i always liked him and he can be a good shot stopper on his day but he is too much of a liability.
I would love Berba to leave but that would mean we would have to bring somebody else in and Fergie is being his usual arrogant self and saying he wont pay over the odds for anybody, which is fair enough but you only have to look back over the season to see we need more quality up front.
As for Carrick, I hope he stays, i wasn't a fan at all when he first signed but he had 2 good seasons and not a particulary bad start to this campaign, the second half being a different story all together though, but i still think he is good enough.
As for who or what i hope we bring in, i think its a no-brainer, a quality striker and a playmaker of a midfielder. Basically what we lost last summer.
Personally, I'd like Berbatov to stay.
Even when he's not scoring, some of the touches and the weight of his passes are just jizzworthy.
It's only right to keep Berbatov, as we've said he's been playing through injury for months now. Let's just see how he copes next season after having his knee surgery and resting up. If he underperforms again next season even when 100% fit, then we will then have to reassess his United career.
We're in such a confusing time right now, we seriously don't know if we have money to spend, whether we need to cut players. It's all so grey.
AgentZero
11-05-2010, 12:02
i want berba to stay, coming into a successful United team was always going to be an uphill battle. Team was unlikely to try and accommodate him when what they have is functional. At least now with 2nd place to reflect on we'll be more hungrier/driven and perhaps try to be a bit more daring. As i feel losing ronaldo the thing that hurt us the most above all his goals is the creativity he instils and inspires other players. Losing that kind of outlet in the training grounds kinda reflects on the confidence the team takes on in the game (IMO)
Lord Shrimpeh
11-05-2010, 13:16
Personally, I'd like Berbatov to stay.
Even when he's not scoring, some of the touches and the weight of his passes are just jizzworthy.
Except they very rarely lead to anything so what's the point? We don't win titles by watching Berba flick balls around outside the six yard box for no reason in particular. Just ask Arsenal :ninja:
I want no business in buying from Spurs and their overpriced players again, but watch us go over the odds and out of our way for Modric.
I wouldn't say no to Modric tbh, he's a good player and would fill the AMF role nicely and unlike Anderson, he knows where the back of the net is... Agree though that we'd only pay way over the odds which is unacceptable.
As for who or what i hope we bring in, i think its a no-brainer, a quality striker and a playmaker of a midfielder. Basically what we lost last summer.
Who'd you fancy seeing up front Sean?
As i feel losing ronaldo the thing that hurt us the most above all his goals is the creativity he instils and inspires other players.
Yes... and no. Yes the 40 odd goals were important, but it shows what a greedy shit he was. Rooney has blossomed in front of goal this season and I believe it's because the greedy Portugese bloke is no longer hogging the limelight. If only Rooney had someone consistent alongside him...
Meyyappan
11-05-2010, 19:43
He aint greedy he wanted to succed to make the team better and alex thought his ideas were best too so gave roo another role.
I wouldn't say no to Modric tbh, he's a good player and would fill the AMF role nicely and unlike Anderson, he knows where the back of the net is... Agree though that we'd only pay way over the odds which is unacceptable.
Modric bombed pretty bad in the attacking midfield role when he first joined Tottenham. I think he is more natural in the central midfield role. That way he isn't the one of the first people to be picked up on and you can influence the game a hell of a lot more in the central postion, rather than further up the pitch.
He's quality on the left too. If you guys got him, I'd cry. But I don't think he is leaving Spurs this right now. They'd be fools to sell him when they just made the Champions League. But they should be fools and sell him to us!
AgentZero
12-05-2010, 01:10
i think perhaps we could only go in the market for another striker, who would peoples (realistic) shortlist would be?
mine would be: Suarez, Huntelaar and try and tempt Carlton Goal.
mufcsean
12-05-2010, 02:00
Well what I want us to bring and what i think we will bring are 2 completely different things.
I would love to sign somebody like Fabiano, Benzema, David Villa, but i think we will go for a cheaper option.
As for a creative midfielder, again there are loads of people i would love to go for, Rafa van der Vaart being one of them, and mata from Valencia has impressed me when i've seen him this season. But i can see us going for somebody who we will get ripped off for, modric for example. Yes he is a very talented player, but, Spurs would hold out for a stupid amount knowing that if Fergie wants somebody that bad from a smaller team he will just keep coming back with bids until he gets them, just as they did with berbatov
AgentZero
12-05-2010, 10:31
lets not discount Gourcuff.
Apparently we've accepted a bid of £4mil raising to £6mill for Foster from Birmingham.
We're also being linked with Milos Krasic.
mufcsean
12-05-2010, 12:50
lets not discount Gourcuff.
Lets, Bordeaux will not let to want him go and were he to leave he would cost a lot of money, money we don't seem to want to spend
who would peoples (realistic) shortlist would be?
Huntelaar and Benzema. A cheeky loan attempt for the latter maybe, as I doubt we'll buy him if Berbatov stays.
After them; Fabiano, Higuain, Dzeko. Or some relative unknown. But I suspect none will be brought in. :erm:
Giuseppe Rossi and Diego Forlan.
i think perhaps we could only go in the market for another striker, who would peoples (realistic) shortlist would be?
mine would be: Suarez, Huntelaar and try and tempt Carlton Goal.
Cole? Interesting choice, but I don't rate him that highly
Giuseppe Rossi and Diego Forlan.
I see what you did there :laugh:
Seriously though and based on recent form, Forlan isn't a bad shout.
AgentZero
12-05-2010, 22:33
my mate pointed out an 'article' that Hargreaves didnt bother to stay for the game due to not being included on the bench.
mufcsean
13-05-2010, 01:13
my mate pointed out an 'article' that Hargreaves didnt bother to stay for the game due to not being included on the bench.
Yeah read that myself, i can understand his frustration as he wanted to be in the England squad, but i doubt he would have gone anyway, and it isn't going to help his united career. van Nistelrooy did the same and he went, He needs to be careful what he says and does now as he could be shown the door.
€18.5m for Borriello is the talk in Italy and I'd be happy with that if it means we get Dzeko. Huntelaar isn't factoring into it anywhere.
Please find whoever started that evil rumour and kindly smash their teeth through the back of their head, would you?
Please find whoever started that evil rumour and kindly smash their teeth through the back of their head, would you?
Its the second time that rumour has come up within the last week. Ferguson is said to like him a lot.
But isn't he a druggy cunt?
But isn't he a druggy cunt?
Yep. He's also 28 next month and has only had three seasons where he's scored over 10 goals - one of those when he was 19. You can see my eagerness to accept such a bid should it materialise.
AgentZero
17-05-2010, 06:07
not too crash hot on that proposal tbh, he never looked that good even prior to Milan.
Apparently you are preparing a 22,5 million bid for Suarez. I think you are making a mistake (he should go to Southern Europe) but I also think that if we accept that for someone who is so important to us then the whole front-office should be fired, despite our financial troubles.
On the other hand, it will restore the natural order of things (I can go to hating him like I really should) and England will have a new player to hate.
AgentZero
19-05-2010, 01:22
Blanc is leaving bordeaux, this is probably the time to step in the chase for Yoann *straws firmly clutched*
Lord Shrimpeh
19-05-2010, 08:14
Fergie has ruled out many, if any, signings this summer
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8691007.stm
This is disappointing but if he has one big money signing in mind could be alright. He's not always true to his word but he said similar last season and was true to his word. Is he becoming Arsene in the transfer market!? Look how that works. Maybe it's a sign that we don't have the funds after all...
wrathchild_uk
19-05-2010, 13:21
Well it looks like that way..saying that this is nothing new as we all remember the period where we signed the likes of Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Kleberson & Miller, instead of bringing in proven world class players.
I wouldn't be surprised if the only signing we make is Joe Cole on a free, i said to my mate last summer that i had a feeling we'd go in for Owen and we did.
We still need a striker, I'd say Benzema, Huntelaar or Dzeko. And a creative midfielder like Modric, Van Der Vaart maybe even J.Cole?
i see foster has signed for Birmingham.
Bad idea that he might just buy one player, i know he bought two player presigned but they aren't first teamers are they?
Lord Shrimpeh
19-05-2010, 19:09
Bad idea that he might just buy one player, i know he bought two player presigned but they aren't first teamers are they?
He said any more players, he has included them. Smalling was technically bought in Jan anyway.
I would have thought he will sign one. I hope for a big money, but I suspect for a free transfer like Cole.
Fergie does seem to be going through a mad phase again. We were poor last season and if anything punched above our weight. If he doesn't add to the squad don't see how we can win anything bar the carling next season.
AgentZero
19-05-2010, 21:46
Well it looks like that way..saying that this is nothing new as we all remember the period where we signed the likes of Djemba Djemba, Bellion, Kleberson & Miller, instead of bringing in proven world class players.
I wouldn't be surprised if the only signing we make is Joe Cole on a free, i said to my mate last summer that i had a feeling we'd go in for Owen and we did.
that period also yielded Ronaldo, who wasnt world class until we developed him. I think faith needs to be restored, not every signing should be seen as a saviour of sorts. Our last big dips in the transfer windows for 'renowned' players have been underwhelming (Berbatov, Hargreaves).
I think Macheda is on the cusps of first team action, be it just regular appearances off the bench. Not to mention Gibson who consensus states is capable of displacing Carrick.
Our last big dips in the transfer windows for 'renowned' players have been underwhelming (Berbatov, Hargreaves).
Hargreaves, really? Can you name me many, if any, bad games he's had for us?
AgentZero
20-05-2010, 02:35
Well its more the fact we spent 20m for him to be on the physio table for the last 2 years.
Lord Shrimpeh
20-05-2010, 08:23
that period also yielded Ronaldo, who wasnt world class until we developed him. I think faith needs to be restored, not every signing should be seen as a saviour of sorts. Our last big dips in the transfer windows for 'renowned' players have been underwhelming (Berbatov, Hargreaves).
I think Macheda is on the cusps of first team action, be it just regular appearances off the bench. Not to mention Gibson who consensus states is capable of displacing Carrick.
I agree we have a good squad and some promising young players but where is the real world class talent? Plus who is going to chip in the goals with Wayne? Doubt it'll be any of the strikers we have currently and we don't have a proper (young!) AMF either.
I think Nani and Valencia are capable of getting 30+ goals between them. Nani just needs to improve his consistency and Valencia should get better and better after an excellent 1st season.
Lord Shrimpeh
20-05-2010, 20:09
I think Nani and Valencia are capable of getting 30+ goals between them. Nani just needs to improve his consistency and Valencia should get better and better after an excellent 1st season.
30+?? Our second highest scorer only managed 12 last season. You're living in dream world boi. Valencia got 6 goals last season and 3 the year before... he's improved but it would take a massive improvement. I agree their goal tally will get better but I don't think they can make up for signing someone to support Rooney.
requiem7
20-05-2010, 20:17
Bad idea that he might just buy one player, i know he bought two player presigned but they aren't first teamers are they?
Javier Hernandez is playing for his national team so I wouldn't think he'll be far away from being a 1st team player. We are in a need of a striker that scores goals. Rooney has done a fantastic job but needs support upfront,
Billy Minof
21-05-2010, 09:37
Javier Hernandez is playing for his national team so I wouldn't think he'll be far away from being a 1st team player. We are in a need of a striker that scores goals. Rooney has done a fantastic job but needs support upfront,
Why have you mentioned Javi Hernandez did you mean Javi Martinez? anyway, he is being linked with Real Madrid and has been since after xmas and TBH I can see him going to Madrid aswell as David Silva.
Why have you mentioned Javi Hernandez did you mean Javi Martinez? anyway, he is being linked with Real Madrid and has been since after xmas and TBH I can see him going to Madrid aswell as David Silva.
No, he meant Javier Hernandez, the player they've already bought.
Billy Minof
21-05-2010, 11:23
No, he meant Javier Hernandez, the player they've already bought.
Oh right, well we will be able to see him in action Monday night, see how he gets on against Premiership defenders as I havent seen much of him.
Lord Shrimpeh
21-05-2010, 13:23
Javier Hernandez is playing for his national team so I wouldn't think he'll be far away from being a 1st team player. We are in a need of a striker that scores goals. Rooney has done a fantastic job but needs support upfront,
Manucho is playing for his national team, remember him? Although admittedly Mexico are a better team. We'll see... there's been too many misses in terms of strikers in recent years.
AgentZero
21-05-2010, 13:30
i dunno call me a cynic but those strikers bought all seem like a marketing exercise. Dong, Manucho and Hernandez all have been bought when ironically we've toured around the region. Its almost like footballs version of affirmative action.
Lord Shrimpeh
22-05-2010, 10:58
i dunno call me a cynic but those strikers bought all seem like a marketing exercise. Dong, Manucho and Hernandez all have been bought when ironically we've toured around the region. Its almost like footballs version of affirmative action.
That would not surprise me in the slightest. I think Dong especially was, they probably sold enough shirts to more than cover his salary.
The Messiah
22-05-2010, 22:16
Dong would have made it if he was given the chance.
AgentZero
23-05-2010, 11:51
sorry jin but Dong was gash and he has been even worse after United, the stats do not lie no goals in 26 games for his Chinese team.
Billy Minof
23-05-2010, 12:12
Dong would have made it if he was given the chance.
:huh:
Dong would have made it if he was given the chance.
Where did it all go Wong?
Foxhound
23-05-2010, 16:19
dong would have made it if he was given the chance.
:d
Dong would have made it if he was given the chance.
Dong reminded me of those awful default players you're given at the start of a Master League team.
Only worse.
Lord Shrimpeh
24-05-2010, 22:14
Imagine the headlines if he scored a vital goal though, "Get yer dong out", "Fergie whips Arsene with his Dong"... okay maybe not.
AgentZero
24-05-2010, 22:37
"Dong thrusts United to first"
Lord Shrimpeh
25-05-2010, 13:38
"When Fergie gets his Dong out Arsene is in trouble"
Acquiesce
25-05-2010, 14:17
"It's Dong coming into the box at a ferocious pace.."
The Messiah
25-05-2010, 14:26
Dong goes in hard on Butt.
Acquiesce
25-05-2010, 14:44
Dong Sweey
NextBigThing
27-05-2010, 06:25
Alright. Read the news that Sir.Alex Ferguson is going to buy not more than one player.
If you were him who would the only player be?
AgentZero
27-05-2010, 16:57
Gourcuff
The Messiah
27-05-2010, 17:16
Kun Agüero. We need to bring sexy back.
Bammers05
27-05-2010, 17:55
Mikael Silvestre :ninja:
Dragonfly
27-05-2010, 18:10
Gourcuff
Gourcuff is average at best.
Kun Agüero. We need to bring sexy back.
Ha! You wish!
Hernandez scored against the Dutch last night. He looked nippy against England, it's just a shame he got very little service. Deal's been finalised, rumoured to be between 6-8m. Not expecting much, so anything more than a flash in the pan is a bonus.
One signing for the summer? Mascherano :joel:
Lord Shrimpeh
27-05-2010, 21:55
Torres?? ;) if he got that knee sorted anyway :ninja:
mufcsean
28-05-2010, 02:08
van der vaart is the most likely i feel.
Dragonfly
28-05-2010, 17:40
Van der Vaart and Rooney would be a good combo.
Phatmann
28-05-2010, 19:09
I'm gonna be at Old Trafford tomorrow because my dad and my cousin are playing in a football aid match. I hope they have some decent legends there cos they usually have two - one on each side - which last year were Denis Irwin and Clayton Blackmore but when my dad played at the Emirates last week all they got was Perry Groves for 45 mins. :faceplm:
To anyone who missed it from last year, my dad's assist:
Gnj1u1sVdXw
:smug:
Nice one man :thumbsup:
How come your dad and cousin are involved in that then? Purely voluntary or has your family got links to the club?
Will there be many going to watch?
Phatmann
28-05-2010, 19:25
It's worked out like an auction where you have to bid money for a position. There won't be many watching I don't imagine, just people who know the people playing in the match. Although when I went last year it was midweek I think so maybe there will be more this year with it being on a Saturday. Two brothers from Venezuela flew over just to play at Old Trafford for 45 mins last year. Mental.
Good stuff, yeah to play on the Old Trafford would be a dream come true for any big fans out there.
You never thought of getting in the auction aswell? :joel:
Foxhound
29-05-2010, 13:44
Mikael Silvestre :ninja:
No thanks. We've already got a substitute, Obertan.
It's worked out like an auction where you have to bid money for a position. There won't be many watching I don't imagine, just people who know the people playing in the match. Although when I went last year it was midweek I think so maybe there will be more this year with it being on a Saturday. Two brothers from Venezuela flew over just to play at Old Trafford for 45 mins last year. Mental.
To be fair, I wouldn't consider that mental. When you consider we have fans who travel by bus from the likes of Sweden purely to "attend" matches, travelling to play on the Old Trafford surface is literally a dream come true. I met a bloke at a match about two years ago (in the Trafford pub) who'd flown from Singapore to come to the match, spent about £400 I think it was. Now, that's mental. But you can't fault it, got to love it.
Phatmann
30-05-2010, 00:33
But I didn't even know we had a fanbase in Venezuela! I got back from Manchester about an hour ago, the game was pretty entertaining - ended 7-3 - but there was only one legend there, Arthur Albiston, who played a half for each team.
I have to say, I was really impressed with Manchester; they've really improved the trams a hell of a lot from when I was down there last year and they've even improved the Old Trafford stop. I'd be interested to see how organised the stop is on matchdays. They seem to have increased the number of checkouts at the megastore too. God I love going to Manchester.
AgentZero
30-05-2010, 01:25
if i had the coin, i would play in that game or even just watch it...i am mental.
AgentZero
06-06-2010, 10:18
Really gutted for Rio, also soome of the names being bandied about as signings:
Arteta - Not keen, could be the case of big fish small pond syndrome ala Carrick
Suarez - would be interesting and a worthy punt for a player of his age, but then again could be another case of the Forlan
Ben Arfa - not interested, have a good mix of wingers currently and he isnt better than the 'core 3'
Angel Di Maria - would be a great addition but current mob seems to be sufficient, can see him leapfrog Nani in the pecking order.
Benzema/Higuain - yes please but it seems with the way shits going down at Madrid Mourinho seems to be a fan of both and wont part with them unless he brings in other strikers.
Looking forward to seeing more of this young Mexican in the World Cup, he's scored a few in the warm-ups and looks a bit different to anything we've got atm.
Apparently we have bid for Simon Kjaer and so have Man City. But their president says we havent reached their valuation.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/06/10/1968833/manchester-united-manchester-city-go-to-war-as-palermo
wrathchild_uk
10-06-2010, 23:36
Just been reading on goal.com that Joe Cole has signed for Arsenal, i hope this isn't the case as he'd be a great signing for us! (if as reported we don't have any money to spend)
Kjaer and Cole would both be excellent signings. Not sure if we need a centre back though if we have Vida, Rio, Brown and Evans all fit.
AgentZero
11-06-2010, 02:43
hopefully the Joe Cole to Arsenal rumors arent true as hes a player id love to have at United but live in the hope he did mention he is waiting till the world cup ends to sort it out. If he plays well could be earning a larger salary.
Ultimate777
11-06-2010, 06:40
Utd might require Kjear as a replacement for Vidic if he considers a move after the world cup
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/39373/Agent_adds_to_Vidic_intrigue_a s_future_remains_undecided.asp x
I'm personally gutted that Nani is going to miss the world cup he was starting to really shine towards the end of last season and was banking on him to be one of the stars of the tournament.
Please. Be. Fake. :|
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/files/2010/04/manchesterunited_1011-home.jpg
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/files/2010/04/manchesterunited_1011-away.jpg
chelsea11
17-06-2010, 01:30
^ Don't think so mate. Have a look in the New Season, New Kit thread. There in it. The home one actually looks alright though, that picture does it no justice at all. It's a retro feel to it. The away, on the other hand, is fucking horrible. Looks like a Bolton home kit.
mufcsean
17-06-2010, 01:58
Our kits are still to be unveiled so everything that is out now on the internet could be fake, i did see a picture of that white kit on a site the other week, it showeed a dummy with the white kit on, it was in one of the exec suites at OT so i am guessing that the white one is correct, which is a shame as it looks like a 90's Japanese clubs kit
Couple of days old now, but we sold Tosic to CSKA. Not happy :<
Those kits will be 100% real. Unfortunately. Not as if I'll be buying either of them anyway so it doesn't matter.
As for Tosic, we obviously sold him for a reason. Saying that, I'm still mourning the loss of Guiseppe Rossi, felt like our son had died when we sold him.
AgentZero
17-06-2010, 11:30
May I ask how many of you lot believe the Red Knights Consortium wont be as malignant as the Glazers?
On another im loving the new home kit, cant wait to get my mitts on one.
I'm loving Hernandez already! Just won me £40 :D
AgentZero
18-06-2010, 07:21
yeah chicharito looks sharp, a younger sharper owen?
AgentZero
19-06-2010, 14:56
need help, im designing the shirts for my futsal team (social league) and im going with those two tone baseball shirts, white chest/back, red sleeves.
Incorporating a graphic on the front, weve decided its going to be the picture of eric kicking that hooligan. But need a puntastic/zingy statement for the back.
Some that have been forwarded are "Eric loves his mum", "Eric-Style can not be defeated", "French martial arts experts" and "malice at the palace"
as you have noted, theyre fairly dry so suggestions will be welcomed.
The word "Seagulls" would suffice.
AgentZero
19-06-2010, 16:56
The word "Seagulls" would suffice.
"Seagulls hate sardines" :w00t
AgentZero
22-06-2010, 02:12
heh keep up coming lads, were out for a pint on friday so ill forward it by then. But also, not impressed with Evras leadership abilities. If hes behind the french revolt as they make out he is then im hoping fergie isnt considering him for captaincy anythime soon IMHO.
Please. Be. Fake. :|
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/files/2010/04/manchesterunited_1011-home.jpg
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/files/2010/04/manchesterunited_1011-away.jpg
They look horrible..
AgentZero
23-06-2010, 03:04
i was actually excited when Cole chose us over other teams but then we deny having nay interest. His wage demand must be ridiculous, but didnt SAF try and pluck him out as a 16yr old for 15M??
Meyyappan
23-06-2010, 05:33
Ya.......maybe he thougt he could be the nex giggs a million a year...
Lord Shrimpeh
23-06-2010, 13:05
Cole isn't coming http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8755088.stm I wonder if we'll get anyone this summer... I think he was definitely worth signing for whatever salary. Cheaper than if we paid a few million for him and would only need to give him a year contract at first to try him out
i would have liked for us to sign cole.
Play a 4-4-1-1 with cole sat behind Rooney with Valencia and Nani on the wings.
wrathchild_uk
23-06-2010, 14:06
Cole isn't coming http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8755088.stm I wonder if we'll get anyone this summer... I think he was definitely worth signing for whatever salary. Cheaper than if we paid a few million for him and would only need to give him a year contract at first to try him out
I thought he'd be the only signing we make this summer and now can't see us getting anyone. Of course we've signed Smalling and Hernandez but it would have been nice if we signed a couple of proven players but that seems unlikely.
Got to admit; Hernandez looks very exciting.
Lord Shrimpeh
23-06-2010, 21:04
Got to admit; Hernandez looks very exciting.
He's was good in the match against France but the jury is out on whether he can be a top striker... if we can let Rossi go, then is he really better?
wrathchild_uk
23-06-2010, 23:11
Yea but Rossi hadn't played for Italy before he joined us, where as Hernandez has already played for Mexico several times now. Its hard to judge until he's played in the prem anyway.
AgentZero
24-06-2010, 06:10
super sub role for mejico is working for him, i imagine he'll be used in the same fashion for united, if he were to be used in his first season.
Lord Shrimpeh
25-06-2010, 13:20
Yea but Rossi hadn't played for Italy before he joined us, where as Hernandez has already played for Mexico several times now. Its hard to judge until he's played in the prem anyway.
I'd like to say that Italy are a better team than Mexico but erm... :unsure:
I'd like to say that Italy are a better team than Mexico but erm... :unsure:
Hahhaaaa!
I'd like to say that Italy are a better team than Mexico but erm... :unsure:
Well maybe few years ago..
I know this question has been asked several times before - but why did Ferguson let Pique go back to Barcelona for so cheap? Was it simply due to the fact he couldn't guarantee him first team football?
Yeah pretty much - it's a shame... well, it is for United.
Just think, even when Rio and Vidic play, he could be playing up front in place of Berbatov just like he tends to do now and then for Barca ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsj_NzcJ7oE
Lord Shrimpeh
27-06-2010, 17:36
Pique and Rossi would have been great, why they were let go was a mystery. Think of all the crap Fergie has signed since then.
But then think of all the successes you've had without them....
I know this question has been asked several times before - but why did Ferguson let Pique go back to Barcelona for so cheap? Was it simply due to the fact he couldn't guarantee him first team football?
He was ultra pony when he was given a go for us. I guess he just didn't adapt over here.
Also I swear he's grown a hell of a lot since we sold him on (as in height, not in muturity).
Dragonfly
27-06-2010, 19:40
He was ultra pony when he was given a go for us. I guess he just didn't adapt over here.
Also I swear he's grown a hell of a lot since we sold him on (as in height, not in muturity).
And physical build. He looks much more muscular than I remember him at United. A Spanish workmate told me of a story where a young Pique was introduced to Van Gaal. The then Barcelona manager pushed him over and told him to bulk up. :lol:
Playing for Barcelona, at home, under Guardiola, not the same as playing for a foreign club, abroad.
I know this question has been asked several times before - but why did Ferguson let Pique go back to Barcelona for so cheap? Was it simply due to the fact he couldn't guarantee him first team football?
The fee wasn't officially disclosed, but i read it was around five mil.
I have no idea why he'd do such a thing, but i'm guessing it was because Pique asked nicely and Fergy is not such a bitch after all.
Ultimate777
28-06-2010, 11:15
The fact that Rio and Vidic were ahead of him for the forseeable future was probably a big factor in him engineering a move. Also he struggled to adapt to the food and whether . Many times he came out saying he wasnt use to the diet at Utd and got homesick. It was a choice of sitting on a cold bench in the rain at United, or playing regular football in a wamer climate for his boyhood club. Didnt seem very mobile or as strong with his stint at united. Obviously he has improved through getting more games, the potential was always there. However he seems to have gained a step in pace , reading of the game and is more agile ever since playing for barca. I also think he is more perfectly suited to Barcelona's "build from the back" approach
Do you guys think Evans will be better than him?
AgentZero
28-06-2010, 11:19
I dont think fergie could of promised Gerard first team football, Evans was willing to bide his time and probably was another reason why it was easier to let Pique go back.
AgentZero
28-06-2010, 11:39
Do you guys think Evans will be better than him?Dont think so, i wish he would but Gerard has fairly good skills on the ball for a centrehalf
Ultimate777
28-06-2010, 11:48
Do you guys think Evans will be better than him?
Evans played a lot of football last season but he'll be well aware that his performance level dropped significantly in the last few games before Vidic/Rio came back towards the end of the season and he been partly blighted by injury. His tackling, awareness and physically are his main qualities. He has a good balance of strength vs. agility.
I think their both playing in the right leagues suited to them. Evans is more grafting rugged and getting stuck in type defender that is more accustomed to the premiership. While Pique is more of a play at your feet more graceful type of attacking defender although in can mix in the tough tackles now due to bulking up. But when he was at United size was defintely an issue as well his lack of pace.
Though that doesn't make him a better player or more talented than Pique . I think right now Pique is better than Evans though. I think mainly because hes upped his game and is definitely more of a goal-threat than most central defenders while at the same time being solid at the back. He has a really useful knack of getting on the end of set-pieces. His play on the ball and distrubition is better than Evans too. I propably rate Evans on par in terms of tackling and heading though. Evans is more of a solid defender rarely caught out of position, but not the better footballer In terms of overall ability. Pique has more about him but both highly talented defenders in their own right. Evans just need to work on his consistency and maybe in a few years time he can considerd first team material but I dont see him ever gaining the world player status attention like Pique could he if continues to develop his game. If he doesnt become more consistent, I can see him just remaining a decent squad cover player ala a O'shea or Brown.
Foxhound
28-06-2010, 14:08
Playing for Barcelona, at home, under Guardiola, not the same as playing for a foreign club, abroad.
The fee wasn't officially disclosed, but i read it was around five mil.
I have no idea why he'd do such a thing, but i'm guessing it was because Pique asked nicely and Fergy is not such a bitch after all.
I thought Millito-Puyol was Barcelona first choice pairing, up until Millito got injured? Which is when Pique became a regular starter.
Or was it all in my imagination?
Pique was never very good for us tbf, plus Evans looks like he will be good enough to be a starter in the future.
Another goal for Hernandez last night! Plus this,
http://i46.tinypic.com/9qg00m.jpg
:D
AgentZero
28-06-2010, 23:31
hahah yeah loved that, i think Heinze is one massive aggro c*nt, he was a rabid animal against Korea and then he had a go at the cameraman. Dude gott take some chill pill
Ultimate777
29-06-2010, 14:34
I dont get the hate towards some players when they leave the club. The fans hate ince, Beckham, Tevez, Ronaldo, Heinze, Ruud just because they had to cheek to want to go to another big club. Ok iince came out with some unsavoury comments but he done a fantantic job at United. Becks I can partly understand to a degree. Ronaldo simply wanted to move to his dream club that has mother always supported. Ruud was messed around in his last season, the same with tevez. Heinze lost his place, and Liverpool happened to be interested, but argentinans dont share the same rivary mentally so you can expect him to be a bit indifferent. Other than that he didnt do too much wrong, and went to Real.
He's been brilliant this tournamount always wears his heart on his sleeve putting himself about that Heinze.
Hernandez is looking sharp, I was impressed the way he took the two goals in such big games so cooly. Hopefully that will translate whens he's here at United because he'll need to be strong mentally to take his chance unlike that bottler Berbatov
Tevez is obvious isn't it though? Manchester City?
sliced-bread
29-06-2010, 14:48
Although saying that, Tevez did turn down Liverpool because he "didn't want to move to such a big rival of Man Utd".
:rolleyes:
Phatmann
29-06-2010, 19:15
I dont get the hate towards some players when they leave the club. The fans hate ince, Beckham, Tevez, Ronaldo, Heinze, Ruud just because they had to cheek to want to go to another big club. Ok iince came out with some unsavoury comments but he done a fantantic job at United. Becks I can partly understand to a degree. Ronaldo simply wanted to move to his dream club that has mother always supported. Ruud was messed around in his last season, the same with tevez. Heinze lost his place, and Liverpool happened to be interested, but argentinans dont share the same rivary mentally so you can expect him to be a bit indifferent. Other than that he didnt do too much wrong, and went to Real.
He's been brilliant this tournamount always wears his heart on his sleeve putting himself about that Heinze.
Hernandez is looking sharp, I was impressed the way he took the two goals in such big games so cooly. Hopefully that will translate whens he's here at United because he'll need to be strong mentally to take his chance unlike that bottler Berbatov
Since when did the fans hate Beckham? Did you not see the Milan games last season? where Beckham was applauding our fans whilst wearing a green and gold scarf? There are very few United fans who hate David Beckham.
Don't think many hate Ruud either. Heinze wanted to go to Liverpool, and Tevez went to City. So pretty understandable surely?
Phatmann
29-06-2010, 21:11
Also I felt Heinze left us at a time where we had the perfect combination at left-back where Heinze would play in a lot of the away games, or games where we needed to be tighter at the back, and Evra would play in home games, or games where we wanted to be a bit more attacking. Then he left and we've not really ever got round to getting a back-up left-back, although Fabio will probably do for now.
Lord Shrimpeh
30-06-2010, 08:30
Tevez would probably have been fine cept for his behaviour since joining City! Also all the stuff about wanting to stay at United and feeling he was getting forced out seemed a bit fake to me.
Foxhound
04-07-2010, 09:34
It seems that Rio is out until November. I doubt that he will ever return to full fitness. :/
Source: the daily mail
Yeah, apparently Fergie has confirmed this.
Time for Evans to step up now, he definitely has the quality but needs to improve his consistency. Weirdly he seems to have his best games against the big teams.
Unless we end up playing Smalling. :huh:
I'm really getting worried City will finish above us next season..
Dragonfly
04-07-2010, 13:35
Smalling and Evans to start and Vidic off to Madrid.
Lord Shrimpeh
04-07-2010, 21:18
Smalling and Evans to start and Vidic off to Madrid.
Doesn't fill me with confidence...
chelsea11
04-07-2010, 21:30
I'm really getting worried City will finish above us next season..
I think everyone is getting worried about this. Eventually, sooner rather than later that is, they will find the right mesh of players and click. It'll be hard for any team to counter them and do better.
Let's hope that isn't for another year or so though.
I don't think there's any chance of Fergie selling Vidic though, so it's just a case of whether Evans is good enough to play the majority of games and still challenge for the title. Not too sure about that though tbh. You could drop a few points due to it.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2s9x0dd.jpg
We've been linked with quite a few people in the last 24hrs.
Sneijder, Balotteli , Khedira and Benzema.
"The interest from Manchester United in Sneijder is real, but I didn't look into it in an attempt not to fall into temptation," Moratti told Sky Sport Italia, adding: "Offers for [Mario] Balotelli and Maicon have been too low."
Inter are looking to extend his contract to 2015.
I hope we bring in a creative player.
I hope you bring Wesley Sneijder to the Premier League. I've loved his game since his days at Ajax.
He's coming here. Swap deal for Mascherano.
Kuyt is grooming him as we speak! ;___;
Well we're swapping Wes Brown for Maicon + Lucio.
As Ziss will know, we should've gone for Sneijder years ago; we sure as hell won't get him now. It's obvious that every man and his dog will be linked with a move for him.
Phatmann
07-07-2010, 19:08
I'm a bit disappointed we haven't put a bid in for Kjaer, who seems to be off to Wolfsburg now even admitting that he hoped for a bid from us. £12m for a 21 year old centre back would've been great business considering Rio's injuries.
The Messiah
08-07-2010, 23:31
Hargreaves injured again? Oh lord. Game over man, game over.
mufcsean
08-07-2010, 23:44
Hargreaves injured again? Oh lord. Game over man, game over.
Whilst i'm not surprised I am dissappointed. As you say, he should just give it up.
Also heard Sneijder has turned us down :(
AgentZero
09-07-2010, 01:05
Sneijder was never going to join us lets be frank, its not that he doesnt want it its more that he'd get a bigger contract offer at Inter if teams are reportedly going after him. His agent has been all talk because any new contract he gets a cut also. Just be flattered they refer to United as the other big club.
mufcsean
15-07-2010, 02:34
http://store.manutd.com/stores/manutd/artwork/english/banners/new_home_kit_tlm_xl_3.jpg
http://store.manutd.com/stores/product_images/mufc-69900.jpg?width=400&height=400&quality=95
http://store.manutd.com/stores/product_images/mufc-69908.jpg?width=400&height=400&quality=95
http://store.manutd.com/stores/product_images/mufc-69914.jpg?width=400&height=400&quality=95
Quite nice actually. Will have to see it in the flesh first though before buying.
Foxhound
16-07-2010, 10:56
I like the home kit but, it's a shame that it's only used for 1 season.
score for tonight? im thinking 2 or 3 -1 to us.
AgentZero
17-07-2010, 00:46
pretty upbeat about the upcoming season, i really do hope some of fergies new fledglings get some serious game time (Gibson, Macheda, Hernandez, Evans, Smalling & Obertan)
Phatmann
17-07-2010, 00:59
pretty upbeat about the upcoming season, i really do hope some of fergies new fledglings get some serious game time (Gibson, Macheda, Hernandez, Evans, Smalling & Obertan)
You watching the game AZ? First half has just ended, United 1-0 Celtic, Berbatov scored. Obertan has looked pretty lively on the right wing, Diouf has been OK, Smalling hasn't had much to do. Scholes is pinging some great 40 yard balls, in particular towards Obertan.
EDIT: Smalling gives away a pen, Samaras scores, 1-1. :faceplm:
EDIT: 3-1 win for United. Welbeck and Cleverley with the other goals, both set up by Berbatov. Cleverley's took a big deflection.
AgentZero
17-07-2010, 13:03
nah gaff didnt watch the game live, had to rely on a highlight reel from MUTV.
It was pleasant to see Berba boss the game, practically had a hand in all the goals. Highlights didnt show much about the defensive side but im sure it wasn't bad.
But yeah Obertan looked well lively and hopefully will give Antonio/Nani a run for their respective monies. Also new kit is lush, looks real smart cant say the same about those nike Keeper kits and their Zebra patterns on the sleeves
Vidic has agreed to a new long term contract.
Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6650873/)
mufcsean
24-07-2010, 01:41
Vidic has agreed to a new long term contract.
Source (http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6650873/)
Probably the best news we could have hoped for during this transfer window, I doubt we could have replaced him with any big name defender.
Hopefully he actually signs it in the not too distant future.
I have a feeling that Berbatov will be much better this season. It's also his last chance to prove himself and we know he has a potential. I also hope Obertan and Gibson will be getting more chances.
Phatmann
26-07-2010, 00:01
I don't know how many of you are watching the match against Kansas City but we are looking embarrassingly poor in defence so far. We went 1-0 down to a goal that was caused by Rafael playing the goalscorer way onside, then we equalised when one of their defenders brought Berbatov down in the box - the defender was then sent off - and Berbatov scored the resulting penalty. However, a minute after the equaliser, Kansas score from a free header from a corner and at HT they go in 2-1 up in spite of being down to 10 men. Rafael has been shocking so far and is getting raped every time by Ryan fucking Smith. Yes, the guy who looked promising for about 5 minutes then failed at Millwall, Southampton, Crystal Palace, Leicester, Derby etc.
Just put it on now, should be a good second half at least!
just got home from work to find this.. We're playing piss.
Edit: embarrassed to say the least :/
I was wrong. Jesus.
From pre-season so far I've got a few pointers. Welbeck looks quality, hope he's given a good chance in the first team this season. Cleverley has looked good, already looking better than Gibson! Not been impressed with Macheda or Diouf really, Obertan just looks like Nani v2.
Defence looks terrible, Evans looks like a one man team at times, Rafael and Fabio keep getting found out and De Laet......sigh. Smalling looks waaaaay out of his depth, needs to bulk up. But he's young I spose.
That's just from what I've seen so in the past three games, I'm aware we're missing our first choice defence. I hope these games don't have any bearing on what's going to happen this season.
mufcsean
26-07-2010, 01:21
I was wrong. Jesus.
From pre-season so far I've got a few pointers. Welbeck looks quality, hope he's given a good chance in the first team this season. Cleverley has looked good, already looking better than Gibson! Not been impressed with Macheda or Diouf really, Obertan just looks like Nani v2.
Defence looks terrible, Evans looks like a one man team at times, Rafael and Fabio keep getting found out and De Laet......sigh. Smalling looks waaaaay out of his depth, needs to bulk up. But he's young I spose.
That's just from what I've seen so in the past three games, I'm aware we're missing our first choice defence. I hope these games don't have any bearing on what's going to happen this season.
Fergies already said that Welbeck and Cleverley will go out on loan again this season, hopefully to PL sides. A shame i must admit, Welbeck looks sharp but I understand why Fergie wants him elsewhere for a year to develop as his chances will be limited. It's Cleverley I am more disappointed about, he had a very good spell at Watford last year and has scored some crackers, got their player of the season aswell, despite missing a lot of it through injury. He has real potential to be a great player for us, he is naturally talented and very versatile. He reminds me of Fletcher when he first came through, but better.
I missed tonights game but from what i've read I'm glad i did. I must say though from the other 2 games we have looked poor defensively. Fabio had a poor game the other night, Smalling didn't do anything to impress me. Kuszczak still doesn't fill me with confidence at all, if we don't get somebody else in to replace VDS and install him as our number 1 we will be in the same problem we were after Schmeichel left, it took us until VDS came really to replace him.
Phatmann
26-07-2010, 18:38
I was wrong. Jesus.
From pre-season so far I've got a few pointers. Welbeck looks quality, hope he's given a good chance in the first team this season. Cleverley has looked good, already looking better than Gibson! Not been impressed with Macheda or Diouf really, Obertan just looks like Nani v2.
Defence looks terrible, Evans looks like a one man team at times, Rafael and Fabio keep getting found out and De Laet......sigh. Smalling looks waaaaay out of his depth, needs to bulk up. But he's young I spose.
That's just from what I've seen so in the past three games, I'm aware we're missing our first choice defence. I hope these games don't have any bearing on what's going to happen this season.
Cleverley was alright last night but against Celtic he was dreadful; he couldn't pass the ball to anyone on his team. I don't think De Laet was that bad. Compared to Rafael, De Laet had a great game. However, I agree that Evans was the only defender out of the lot of them to come out looking good. Smalling really needs to improve a hell of a lot this season considering Rio's current condition.
Why are we spending £12m odd on an average defender, even if he's young and we have to train him up why are we wasting that sort of money rather than chancing some of the youths already at the club?
Berba's penalty was classy :D
True. I hope he doesn't effect Evans development. He's got everything needed to be a starter.
Gill's said we've got the money for a big signing this summer, still yet to see him. With Ozil only valued at £12m by Werder Bremen i'm sure he's a bargain we can't miss out on. Tonight though i have a feeling United will put out another half hearted joke of a performance, but i guess it's these sorta of games that the likes of rafael and diouf need to become possible starters.
Chewis_Afc
28-07-2010, 16:50
I would love us to get Ozil and then possibly another fullback.
Hope we can win the league back. Also really want Hernandez to do well.
The Messiah
29-07-2010, 02:35
Lovely one two there & ball watching.
AgentZero
29-07-2010, 08:53
Old Tom Cleverley put that chance away. Also big love for Chicharito and his finishing.
Bit pissed off really. Stayed up to watch us play shit and lose. Hernandez scored a good goal against us and wasnt really given enough time when on our team (he played first half Chiva's second half for us). Everyone else played pretty shit tbh. Couldnt pass the ball or keep control, defence all over the place. Smalling was shit but made up by scoring a goal, fabio and de laet were very average.
Things are not looking good at all. We are pretty crap without Rooney.
Things are not looking good at all. We are pretty crap without Rooney.
Pre-season means nothing. You're Manchester United. You're going to be challenging for the title until the end of the season.
AgentZero
02-08-2010, 01:14
FFS all the doom and gloom already, i super optimistic that we'll play well this season without relying heavily on Rooney ala last season.
Also Anderson's been in a crash and was pulled unconscious before it (his Audi R8) burst into flames, only sustained minor injuries thankfully.
I'm not overly optomistic. But I'm very excited about seeing all of our youngsters!
i super optimistic that we'll play well this season without relying heavily on Rooney ala last season.
Good luck with that.
Ultimate777
02-08-2010, 21:04
We'll cope just fine without rooney. Did you see him smoking, drinking and pissing the walll like a lout in the paper? Hernandez and Berbatove have been looking sharp this pre season and I expect them to be taking things to another level.
Im excited for the season to start. Hopefully fergie mixes it up and gives youngsters a chance.
And i dont understand that Anderson story as if he was unconscious surely he would have been kept in hospital longer than a few hours? I think its the papers going a bit over the top.
AgentZero
03-08-2010, 00:32
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3104/oshea.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/oshea.jpg/)
had a nice chuckle, what a legend.
This group of youngsters is the best we've had in years. Can't wait to see them in action! I think we will challenge for the title, but getting these players experience will be just as important.
Lord Shrimpeh
03-08-2010, 08:29
I'm excited about the youngsters but don't want us turning into an Arsenal. You never win anything with kids after all.....
Another Hernandez goal :D
Looks so confident, needs to carry it into the season though.
it was a good finish tbh. gutted i couldnt watch the match though, stupid work :|
AgentZero
05-08-2010, 12:12
away kit doesnt look as dodgy as i anticipated.
Quality finish by England's Michael Owen.
AgentZero
06-08-2010, 12:59
Dare i say the defence currently is the most vulnerable and inexperianced in recent times?
Lord Shrimpeh
06-08-2010, 15:21
Yeah the defence hasn't been performing well at all yet. I'm not sold on smalling and Rio obviously is on his way out. We need to sign someone but I'm not holding out for that!
I dont get the hate towards some players when they leave the club. The fans hate Ince, Beckham, Tevez, Ronaldo, Heinze, Ruud just because they had to cheek to want to go to another big club.
I do not hate David Beckham, Cristiano Ronaldo or Ruud van Nistelrooy. Nor do I know any supporters who do. They are legends at Old Trafford. David Beckham is practially Jesus Christ to many of us. Becks grew up supporting the club. Played in the youth ranks. Broke into the first team. And played a huge role in us becoming and staying a dominant force in his time with the club. He was an amazing player in his Manchester United days and would fight for every ball until the very last minute of every game, or until he died from exhaustion! Ronaldo and Ruud are not on the same level as Old Trafford icons, partially due to being foreign and supporting different clubs. But they're still very much loved all the same for their contributions to the team, especially Ronaldo.
Ince and Tevez talked too much trash about the club and the gaffer, as well as moving to Liverpool and Manchester City, respectively. Tevez spent two years at the club and was instrumental for about half of each season. He was rubbish to begin with. And was phased out for much of the second. We loved him because of his work rate and his desire. But that never gave him free reign to talk nonsense and claim a divine right to first team football. I will admit to being gutted when he left. And to being surprised at how well he done for Manchester City. I always knew he was a good player but he was never that frequent of a goal scorer anywhere else. But he talked himself out of our hearts more than anything else. Shame.
Ince, well, he really only fell foul of Fergie to begin with. It was only when he moved to Liverpool and celebrated like a maniac when scoring an equalising goal against us at Anfield where the supporters turned on him. You have to admit that is somewhat asking to be singled out. No one will deny him his due as a dominant force who was pivotal in our establishment as a top side. But neither will we forget him being a c*nt thereafter.
Heinze is the biggest c*nt of the lot though. He requested a transfer to Liverpool. He actually demanded to be allowed to leave Manchester United to sign for Liverpool. Catch yourself on like if you think that is anything other than a slap in the face to every Manchester United supporter who ever lived. It's a small list holding the names of players who could do that and still be adored. Heinze was never close to being so. He was again loved for his work rate and commitment, and for chopping opposition players in half. He was neither at the club for long enough nor aided us towards enough silverwear to merit iconic status.
I'll only comment on players from my generation. But the likes of Ryan Giggs, Paul Schols, Gary Neville, Roy Keane, David Beckham, Peter Schmeichel, Steve Bruce, Eric Cantona, Dennis Irwin, and Ole Gunner Solskjaer can practically do no wrong. They could be playing for Liverpool and I'd love them no less. Hell, Andy Cole and Peter Schmeichel played for City and I was hoping for them (the player) to do well and referring to them as greats even at the time. Yes, I refer to Andy Cole as a great player for our club. Teddy Sheringham, too. Both scored many, many important goals in their time.
Billy Minof
07-08-2010, 12:43
Great post. :)
mufcsean
07-08-2010, 23:07
Spot on.
Heard Fergie was at Craven Cottage today watching Fulham play Werder Bremen, Mesut Ozil? Please
Billy Minof
08-08-2010, 11:13
Spot on.
Heard Fergie was at Craven Cottage today watching Fulham play Werder Bremen, Mesut Ozil? Please
I doubt he did well considering the scoreline.
AgentZero
08-08-2010, 12:17
Clearly missing the contributions of a regular scorer in the midfield, cleverley and gibson have shown sign of a goal scoring knack. Scholes has barely made double figures as of late, something like 4 and 3/4 average goals since 05/06
Spot on.
Heard Fergie was at Craven Cottage today watching Fulham play Werder Bremen, Mesut Ozil? Please
Hopefully it was just Ozil he was watching.
I doubt he did well considering the scoreline.
In Etuhu's pocket all match apparently.
Hernandez has just bagged his first official goal for us :)
He really does look like a good signing, albeit against a laboured looking Chelsea defence. Valencia & Scholes have been excellent so far as well.
Edit: Berbatov in good pass/move/goal incident! :shocking:
Here's hoping he does that more than once this season...
Great goal Berbatov. Great win for us. Scholes ran the show.
LOL.. Hernandez's goal was hilarious!
edit:
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Billy Minof
08-08-2010, 19:27
In Etuhu's pocket all match apparently.
Apparently Madrid are also interested in him and have agreed to sign him next summer for free but nothing official. I dont know what all the hype is about TBH, he played well in the early games of the WC but when he was needed he was no where to be found and also faded in and out of games too much even when Germany were dominating games.....
Stormrider
08-08-2010, 19:30
The Berba + Chicharito combo looks good. My magic 8 ball says they're both going to shine for us this season :). Scholes was fantastic today as well and he's still got it after all these years. I take back what I said about him many months ago :blush:
That Hernandez fella looking very dangerous...
AgentZero
08-08-2010, 23:27
Javier is reaching cult figure status.
Apparently you lot are now the most successful team in England. Yesterday's win brought you up to 59 trophies against Liverpool's 58.
Billy Minof
09-08-2010, 12:58
Apparently you lot are now the most successful team in England. Yesterday's win brought you up to 59 trophies against Liverpool's 58.
I like your style....;)
AgentZero
11-08-2010, 00:34
Anyone know whats going on with Possebon? After the Braga disaster he seemed to have fallen off the horse fairly badly.
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/11/article-1281539922635-0AC381C0000005DC-992944_636x327.jpg
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/837768-mesut-ozil-manchester-united-transfer-confirmed-by-official-website
:doh:
Phatmann
11-08-2010, 19:57
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/11/article-1281539922635-0AC381C0000005DC-992944_636x327.jpg
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/837768-mesut-ozil-manchester-united-transfer-confirmed-by-official-website
:doh:
Isn't that just that thing where he's played against us at some point or something? I'm pretty sure if you change a few numbers at the end of the link you can get all sorts of players. You used to be able to anyway, as I remember it being brought up in this thread.
I wish :(
Though I hear we have signed another striker, some young Portuguese lad called Bebe.
The Messiah
11-08-2010, 22:35
http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/11/article-1281539922635-0AC381C0000005DC-992944_636x327.jpg
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/837768-mesut-ozil-manchester-united-transfer-confirmed-by-official-website
:doh:
This reminds me of Robinhogate.
In other news, Hernandez scored against the Spanish tonight, and apparently Craig Cathcart has signed for Blackpool. So much for his bright future.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs319.snc4/41302_420294642745_7724542745_ 5389714_2164894_n.jpg
lol...Reported £8mil on him!?
And Hernandez's goal against spain was well taken!
Manchester United have signed striker Bebe from Vitória de Guimarães for an undisclosed fee, subject to a medical.
The 20-year-old only moved to Guimarães five weeks ago from Portuguese third division club Estrala da Amadora.
Christ, he sounds like another Smalling.
Lord Shrimpeh
12-08-2010, 14:50
Fergie only met him the day before signing him apparently and did it on queiroz's recommendation. Ali Dia anyone? Like his hair though, plus he used to be a tramp so will probably rival rooney for the quickest downer of a bottle of white lightning
He's played for portugal!
...at the homeless world cup.
CDDRodrigo
12-08-2010, 15:12
Awesome signing.
Ow god, how I love sarcasm.
AgentZero
13-08-2010, 01:55
Wellbecks joined the black cats on a season long loan, is it the beginning of the end for Danny? And also what happened to that Norwiegan lad, Joshua King?
ThaReaper01
13-08-2010, 08:24
Wellbecks joined the black cats on a season long loan, is it the beginning of the end for Danny? And also what happened to that Norwiegan lad, Joshua King?
Loaned to PNE.
King played very well setting one up and scoring one in PNE's last game. And its definitely not the end for Welbeck. Ferguson loves him and hes been loaned out to an EPL side so he can bulk up.
After a shaky opening 10 mins, we've really got hold of this game. Lots of possession but sadly no final touch. Rooney looks more active, but appears to have brought his scoring boots back from South Af
Score in spoiler for those who might not want to know...
(33 mins) But Berba remembered where his are! 1-0
(42 mins) Fletcher!?!?! 2-0 Getting to be a habit.
HT 2-0
Half time & not bad. Berba looking half decent, midfield playing fairly well albeit against a Newcastle side looking to hit on the break.
Pop quiz: Guess who was the first Newcastle to receive a booking?
Hmm.. It was a alright first half. I really want us to pile on the pressure by scoring a few more to show we're up for a fight this season.
Btw whats up with Barton's paedo 'stache.
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/PA-93001011.jpg
He says he won't shave it off until Newcastle score their first goal this season...
oooh great play shame berba couldnt finish it!
He's been pretty effective in the build up. Some good movement too.
Nice to see Scholes carry on the good distribution he started in the Chelsea game.
Edit: Hernandez on for Rooney... (64 mins)
86 mins... Giggs 3-0 :)
Scholesly really has been class at times tonight.
FT 3-0
Really pleased with some parts of tonight's game. Some of the pass & move & ball retention was excellent.
Only real negatives were Nani and his passing. At times it was woeful.
Scholes really ran the show once again.
Giggsy's goal was great.
Can't complain seeing as we usually have poor starts.
Berba looks like he means business this season. Scholesy is quality in games like these.
AgentZero
17-08-2010, 00:02
surprised me Rooney was sacrificed, last competitive goal was in March....
AgentZero
18-08-2010, 01:03
me thinks time for a new poll,
"Will Berbatov have his breakout season with United?"
or
"Will Rooney be second fiddle this season?"
i dunno think of some
Anderson keen to grab chance to shine at Manchester United after injury
Manchester United midfielder Anderson is hoping that he can reignite his career at Old Trafford.
Out since February with a cruciate ligament injury sustained against West Ham United, there have also been rumours that the Brazilian was on his way out of the club.
However, he is delighted to be back training with the first team squad after completing his rehabilitation from the injury.
"I'm so happy and excited to be back again after six months without football," he told his club's official website.
"I've been really excited to be back. I've been so happy ever since I got back to Carrington and I just can't wait to play again.
"I'm feeling good. I've been training for two weeks and I'm very happy. I think maybe very soon I'll come back again and start playing normally with the rest of the team.
"I have had no problems at all with the injury. I'm just running and training now really hard, so I can come back and train normally with the team."
And more winners' medals are the aim for Anderson this season, after a strong pre-season in which the Red Devils have looked sharp.
"I think the new season will be very difficult because a lot of teams are becoming strong," he added.
"But in pre-season we have looked very strong and I think we will come again this season and we will aim to win everything."
source (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2010/08/18/2076052/anderson-keen-to-grab-chance-to-shine-at-manchester-united-after-)
so... welcome back anderson:happy:
Mullet Taylor
19-08-2010, 13:05
ha i thought anderson had just pissed off Fergie and was frozen outta the side. I heard Anderson had a car crash, maybe that'll be the wake up call for him not to take things for granted !
Scholes and giggs, wonder if they two and ferguson will all retire at the same time ?
I just cannot watch United if Anderson is playing. He frustrates me so, and when he takes another shot from 30 yards that had no chance of going in even if Steven Gerrard would have kicked it, a piece of me dies inside.
As for Rooney, no way he'll be second fiddle. I think Ferguson took him out because the game was obviously in the bag, and the season is long. About the Newcastle game, it grated on me that Newcastle gave so much space to Scholes, he had a field day out there and I swear he could walk all over the middle sections of both halves without there being any remote pressure.
Mullet Taylor
19-08-2010, 13:23
i know its a loooong way to go, but does it look like newcastle will be in a ralegation dogfight this year ? didn't they trouble at all ?
i know its a loooong way to go, but does it look like newcastle will be in a ralegation dogfight this year ? didn't they trouble at all ?
For the 1st 10 minutes Newcastle looked the better side. In all honesty if they play like they did for some spells against us then I could easily see a mid table finish.
If Carroll had buried that header at 0-0 (like he should have done) then it could have been a very different game.
requiem7
19-08-2010, 18:09
me thinks time for a new poll,
"Will Berbatov have his breakout season with United?"
or
"Will Rooney be second fiddle this season?"
i dunno think of some
Berbatov has been superb he just lacked the goals. Looks like he's hitting the target now. United have a lot more to offer but it was a good start.
mufcsean
19-08-2010, 23:54
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6651518
Shame really, looked a very promising player a season or 2 ago.
AgentZero
20-08-2010, 04:22
yeah shame Possebon couldnt cut the mustard, attitude issue was also a concern about him re: loan to braga fiasco.
Always looked handy, his potential was clearly stunted by that horror tackle from Pogatetz though.
Need to see a few more games before answering the poll. I seem to remember a similar type of optimism at the start of last season. Wouldn't mind if it is though, as Berbatov at his best is one of a few players I genuinely love watching.
requiem7
20-08-2010, 21:23
Anderson is back in training. United need a result against Fulham to make up for last season.
Anderson is back in training. United need a result against Fulham to make up for last season.
and the season before :/
Hopefully Anderson can really up his game when he gets back to match fitness
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