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c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 19:03
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c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 19:04
So then i will kick us off, what do you guys reckon to our CL draw?
I reckon we should beat porto and i remember when we played them a few years back in the QF (4-0) :D
SySTeM_Id
12-12-2003, 19:28
Never seen Porto play. A formidable opponent?
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 19:46
Never seen Porto play. A formidable opponent?
They're a canny team. Definitely beatable for Manure though.
Porto have got some good players (Deco, Derlei, Benny McCarthy), Man Utd should beat them but they shouldn't be underestimated.
c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 19:56
gotta agree with you there they have some good individuals and should not be under estimated but utd should really beat them
Zygalski
12-12-2003, 19:59
Last time Man United drew Porto in the same stage of the Champions League, was a few years back and people were getting worried about them.
United won the first leg 4-0 and David May scored - celebrating like a raving madman! And the second leg was 0-0.
I think all 3 English teams will make it to the next round.
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 21:10
1. Roy is 78 yards away from the referee at Old Trafford and Gary is 65 yards away. If Roy can run at 21mph and Gary can run at 16mph, who will be sticking their vein-bulging forehead into the hapless whistler's face first, assuming Roy does not stop to stamp on an opponent on his way.
2. If one minute of time is taken up in a game for substitutions and one minute for injuries, how much injury time will be added on by the referee if Man Utd are losing at home?
3. Ryan is a Welshman. Express, as a percentage, the number of internationals he has missed on a Wednesday evening compared to the miraculous recoveries he made for the following Saturday.
4. Manchester United are one of the giants of world club football. How many more European Cup Finals have they appeared in than Steaua Bucharest?
(For one extra mark; How many more than Reims?)
4a. How many more times have Manchester United won the European Cup than Nottingham Forest?
5. Phil Neville has 30 international caps. If you take away the number of appearances when he was the only adult male in England who could just about kick the ball with his left foot, how many are left?
6. You are the referee at Old Trafford. How near to a visiting defender does a tumbling Ruud van Nistelrooy have to be to earn a penalty if he goes down in the box? (Note: Round your answers down to the nearest 20
yards.)
6a. Probability. Express the statistical probability of visitors to Old Trafford
being awarded a penalty.
Compare this with the probability of opponents of Manchester United being awarded a penalty home or away, and then discuss if a penalty awarded to Manchester United would be awarded to their opponents in identical circumstances.
7. Mark "The Red" lives in Guildford. How much does it cost for him and his two sons to travel to the Theatre of Silence every other weekend, including limited edition matchday programme, a few drinks and prawn sandwiches all round? How much could he save per week if he watched his local team instead?
(Note: Round your answers down to the nearest thousand pounds).
8. Alex had a hotel room booked in Glasgow for the Champions League Final. How much money did he lose when cancelling his reservation?
9. Ruud is 6ft tall and very strong and fast. How much pressure need be applied to make him tumble over in the opponents penalty area? (Note: Answers must be in lbs per square inch. However, answers such as, 'However much pressure is applied by Ferguson to referees' are accepted.)
10. Alex has won it 1 time, Bob has won it 3. Alex has one, Bob does not. What am talking about? Explain your answer (because nobody else can).
11. Juan is a very lazy boy and often goes missing.
Alex is very cross and wants to sells him. If Juan cost £28m to buy, how much do you think Alex sold him for? How many pennies did Alex lose?
12. What is the total number of chickens counted before they were hatched by Manchester United and their supporters who thought Real Madrid were a pushover.
ha ha, very good. where did you find that?
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 21:14
ha ha, very good. where did you find that?
Just had it e-mailed to me. Canny like.
c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 21:52
yeah brilliant, now go cry about not coming back up at the end of this season
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 21:56
yeah brilliant, now go cry about not coming back up at the end of this season
No, why would I?
I am not a glory supporter, I do not follow the team just because they are playing in the top league.
The daft thing about Man U is, the REAL Man U supporters are some of the best fans in the country. There away following backs this up. The glory hunters and prawn sandwich brigade really let the true Manure fans down.
c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 22:01
yeah yeah yeah say what ya like ive argured this point so much over the years that i dont even bother arguing no more, i support united ive followed them all my life so why should i be bothered about what people say to me?
i was just having a sly dig at sunderland as you did at utd if ya cant take it dont give it, oh and its a thread to discuss utd not for people like you coming in and trying to wind people up
Giggsy11
12-12-2003, 22:03
here.here well said :)
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 22:06
yeah yeah yeah say what ya like ive argured this point so much over the years that i dont even bother arguing no more, i support united ive followed them all my life so why should i be bothered about what people say to me?
i was just having a sly dig at sunderland as you did at utd if ya cant take it dont give it, oh and its a thread to discuss utd not for people like you coming in and trying to wind people up
How many games do you get to like?
Giggsy11
12-12-2003, 22:10
How many games do you get to like?
erm its kinda hard to get to utd games, u either haved to have a season ticket, which is hard enough or be lucky enough that they haven't already sold out on match day, thats why old trafford is always packed.
c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 22:16
i try and go at least once a season, sorry if that not enough but i cant afford a season ticket and 30 odd quid a single ticket is a bit steep for me aswell but one thing i will say is ive nt missed a utd game on telly for the last 2 years, including europe and lg cup
Definitely Maybe
12-12-2003, 22:38
Im not saying its not good enough, its just (and this isnt directed at you), but you often get Man U fans coming on saying "we're the best team in the world ever, such and such is class, such and such is mint, etc", when really they've never seen Manure play before in there life.
c ronaldo
12-12-2003, 22:46
i know what ya mean there tho mate, i watched the stuttgart game the other night in the pub and a mate joined me with his mate. So we were sat there watching it and i ask his mate what team he supports and he says he's a utd fan so i was like fair enough, 10 minutes passes and we are still watching the game and he turns round to me and says "how many a side is this?" :rolleyes: Thats gotta be the funniest question i have ever been asked by a fellow football fan :D
Darth Daft
12-12-2003, 23:54
i know what ya mean there tho mate, i watched the stuttgart game the other night in the pub and a mate joined me with his mate. So we were sat there watching it and i ask his mate what team he supports and he says he's a utd fan so i was like fair enough, 10 minutes passes and we are still watching the game and he turns round to me and says "how many a side is this?" :rolleyes: Thats gotta be the funniest question i have ever been asked by a fellow football fan :D
I know what you mean mate, im from dahn sarf so i quite often see this in the pubs. Best one was a bloke came up to me when we were playing leeds last season when Mikael scored and went "oh who was that who scored?" , "Silvestre" i replied "oh good im glad he scored, he's our new signing isnt he" , hes dead now..... :D
Nobody 'cept united fans quite understand exactly HOW hard it is to get tickets to OT. Assuming that we qualify for CL next season ;) i want to see my first Euro game at OT, no way will i get a ticket face value so i'll have to go to some reseller on the net and we are looking at £90 per ticket and thats before travel and beers. Thank god for pubs with dodgy foreign channels that always show Utd!
Darth Daft
14-12-2003, 07:41
Citeey oh whooah citeey, theyre f*cking $hitty, theyre f*cking $hitty. Outclassed, thought it would be much closer oh well nice easy win.
TOP OF THE LEAGUE, GET USED TO IT.
Giggsy11
14-12-2003, 07:47
David seamans save was brilliant and wright-phillips goal was fantastic, good win though.
MatPhillips
15-12-2003, 21:32
seamans save was good, but all for nought!
Kleberson improving leaps and bounds!
he'll be an irreplacable first 11 regular by next season!!
MatPhillips
15-12-2003, 21:35
who do you guys think Fergie should go for in transfer window????
i think considering Barca's crushing debts, we should make an audacious attempt to sign Ronaldinho again!!!
he's been their only decent player!
Travis Bickle
19-12-2003, 03:35
I'm not a United Fan, the Hatters are the true team. But I've got a few mates that have got season tickets so I've been to alot of games. The amount of cockney twats that are there is embarrassing, it was really bad when football was the in thing around the time united won the champions league. There was one time I was with my mate and about 30min into the game this guy behind him started to leave, and my mate and a load of other mancs just start hurling abuse at him, saying he's wasting a seat (he was a cockney) my mate says he see's him every home game and he leaves every time after about half an hour. That is what gives Man Utd a bad name, I've been to midweek european games and the atmosphere is electric (and I've seen Real Madrid v Barca at the nou camp.) brings a tear to your eye, not as good as Edgeley Park though.
who do you guys think Fergie should go for in transfer window????
i think considering Barca's crushing debts, we should make an audacious attempt to sign Ronaldinho again!!!
he's been their only decent player!
Saviola will be a good buy. Although he is yet to flourish in the Spanish league, he should do well at Old Trafford.
MatPhillips
19-12-2003, 23:51
how much is Saviola worth? Barca got him for £20million from River Plate didn't they?
Considering the shite impact he has had at Barca, I'd say he's worth £10-15m.
Gettin ready to watch the spurs v man u match. Can't see spurs gettin anything out of it.
Just beat us 0-1 or something don't go all stupid on us and win 5-0 please!
At least you'll be on top of Arsenal.
Anyway...
Come on you Spurs!!!!!!!!!
MatPhillips
23-12-2003, 17:22
you played well in the second half, we struggling in parts. still won tough, thats what matters at the end of the day. TOP O' THE LEAGUE! :D
sheringham316
25-12-2003, 01:40
What a waay to end the year :D:D
OI! DEFINATELY MAYBE shut the fuck up aboot utd. yer only jealous coz your team is in the Nationwide where all the shit teams play like fucking bradford city i have followed utd. all my life i'm from yorkshire and last season i was a season ticket holder so that pissed on your bonfire hasn't it dick ed
oh yeah and incase you're wondering i have missed one match this year against Blackburn coz i was on holiday in monte carlo u fuking maccam bastard
soz aboot the language but it duz my head in wen people call us glory supporters
t1000v2.0
28-12-2003, 06:42
You and me both....then you feel the need to justify supporting United...so that no can label you a glory supporter...Mill, sod it, scum like that ain't worth it.
Definitely Maybe
28-12-2003, 08:17
Hmm, someone from London and someone from Yorkshire (both Man U fans) coming on slagging me off.
Like I have said before, the real Man United fans are some of the best in the country. Manures away support is testiment to this.
The Glory supporters however, really let you down, and you should be ashamed of them.
P.S., its "Mackem", not Maccam.
MatPhillips
02-01-2004, 18:22
this is a United thread, so can we at least stop the united bashing in this part of the forum???
so anyway...Fulham want £15 million for
Louis Saha??? is he worth it?
adams9802
26-01-2004, 14:10
So what do you mancs think of the impending doom witht the legal fight between JP and Sir A? Sounds like it is getting pretty serious and Fergie might not get a new contract....
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 19:55
i think if J.P McManus has any business sense he will realise how bad a move getting rid of sir Alex would be. shares would plummet and it might ruin United, so his money he invested goes straight down the pan.
adams9802
26-01-2004, 19:57
But I think bussniss sense has nothing to do with this, its personal and I think JP is out for blood. He earnestly wants to destroy Fergie
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 20:03
i know that, they have both taken personel issues to work with them, but what i'm saying is McManus should sort it outside of Manchester United, if he takes the drastic action of ousting fergie his business investment will probably cost him more than Fergie wants for the horse!
adams9802
26-01-2004, 20:07
fucking rock of Gibralter! If this does happen I could see Fergie getting a job at Chelski......I would sorely miss the Wenger -Fergie battles if he did go though:(
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:10
Fergie would be great at any attacking club.
Real, AC Milan, Chelsea, Bayer, Barca, Newcastle etc....
He's tactics are class.
Unfortunately in the market he's inconsistent.
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 20:12
do you think so? a couple of years ago United were more attacking than Arsenal, they were like a battering ram, he's mellowed in the last 2-3 seasons and gone defensive.
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:15
Wonder why.
From 2001-02, the most goals scored to 2002-03, the least goals conceded. Proved quite a success tho.
On the other hand, Liverpool have turned more attacking, and this is their result.
adams9802
26-01-2004, 20:17
I would say inconsistent is a bit light. I mean he payed 19 mil for Ruud which was well worth it. But the millions that have be burned at OT are unbeliveable. I think alot of the reasons for the attack going down:
Yorke/Cole partnership went to hell
Keane has less mobility thus can't go forward very much. I mean he can still shoot and pass, but he has to get up the park to do so!
Giggs hasn't been his best in the last 1or 2
Veron the new playmaker couldn't play well enough to get into Swansea
adams9802
26-01-2004, 20:18
Wonder why.
From 2001-02, the most goals scored to 2002-03, the least goals conceded. Proved quite a success tho.
On the other hand, Liverpool have turned more attacking, and this is their result.
Liverpool may try to be attacking but the still suck at it.thy have the second worst bunch of strikers for a big club besides Newcastle.
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:26
Their's are alright.
Shearer, Bellamy, Lua Lua Amoebi..
adams9802
26-01-2004, 20:27
Their's are alright.
Shearer, Bellamy, Lua Lua Amoebi..
Shearer is Awsome
Bellamy needs to buy some new bones
Lua Lua,Ameobi and now ex Newcastle dud Cort couldn't score with a wide open net
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 20:29
Man U drawn against Man City or tottenham. 5th round. what do you all think?
Arsenal vs Chelsea!!!!!!!! one of thems going out
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:32
Mat,
That wasn't a guess right???
Confirmed?
Man Utd win , I'm quite sure.
This time, I'm going for Arsenal...
...going out.
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 20:35
confirmed, i'm trying to get the full draw but EVERYWHERE is crashing!
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:37
Anyway, is Tottenham or Man City playing at home in the replay???
Whoever the home team, I predict they'll win.
(Their standards are around the same.)
adams9802
26-01-2004, 20:38
This is gonna be fun Chelski twice in 7 days:)
...going out.[/QUOTE]
MatPhillips
26-01-2004, 20:41
i think its Spurs at home in replay
Zizou_Zizi
26-01-2004, 20:44
Haha!!!
Nice joke, Adams (not about the outcome, but about ....going out) !
Spurs at home in the replay, I bet they'll win, or Ex time.
rebusrahman
26-01-2004, 23:17
Definitely at WHL in the replay...
When Chelsea play Arsenal in the league match, hopefully man utd should go a point clear by winning in there match. Man City are having a bad run but We still wont under estimate them.
rebusrahman
27-01-2004, 17:38
Is that who Utd have during that Arse v Chelski fixture then?
Zizou_Zizi
27-01-2004, 18:59
Don't know.
Arse vs Chelski at Highbury?
Arsenal 3 - 2 Chelsea
Henry (2) Hasselbaink
Pires Gallas?
My grand predictions seldom go wrong :D
rebusrahman
27-01-2004, 20:09
Better rush down to the bookies and have a flutter then!?!?!
When arsenal have chelsea Man Utd have Leeds Utd at home. What a gift!
Foxhound
28-01-2004, 12:24
i hope manutd will win the cl! this season!!!!
Zizou_Zizi
28-01-2004, 14:48
They will get the top 2.
That means at 3rd place will be Arsenal or Chelski.
SySTeM_Id
28-01-2004, 17:33
yeah, I want a Real Madrid vs. Manchester United Champions League final! That'll be flat-out cool, dawg!
Zizou_Zizi
28-01-2004, 18:58
But somehow it doesn't seem really balanced.
Zizou_Zizi
28-01-2004, 23:13
Anyway who do you reckon will be in the final?
My guess:
English/Italian club vs Spanish club
eg. Juventus vs Real Md
MatPhillips
29-01-2004, 01:25
R.Madrid v Man U, Juve, Arsenal or Milan (if they dont meet on the way)
Zizou_Zizi
29-01-2004, 05:32
Chelsea maybe or Bayern.
I know its already been brought up, but it really annoys me so I thought I'd say my bit. Our fans get so much stick for not coming from Manchester and being glory hunters and it's just so unfair. Don't people realises that your team chooses you? I'm a Manchester United fan because my mothers Irish and over there you either support United or Liverpool. I was pretty much told by my family I was supporting United by my uncles who had supported United all through their barren patch. They weren't glory hunters, and neither am I. Its so upsetting as well because Manchester United means so much to me. I always watch United on the tele even if it means not going out that day, and I would travel to every home game if I could (and I live in crappy London) but I just cant get tickets, and even if I could, I wouldn't be able to afford them, and I know that theres so many United fans who would travel even further to see United play. I know all about the history of United and then all I get is bloody goonners coming up to me giving me abuse when they don't know anything about their club.
I agree that there is a lot of so called United supporters who don't know a thing about United and just support them as an easy option, and they give the rest of us a bad name. All I can say is that I was born a Red and I will DIE a Red, even if we never see another bit of silverware for 100 years (god forbid!)
sorry but I had to get that off my chest! lol
ChelseaDave
29-01-2004, 05:55
not sayin u lot r glory hunters, coz u probably rnt, just hard to get to games which is understandable (considering amount of japanese tourists that go :) )
anyhoo, i dont like that fact that chelsea have suddenly got a wave of fairweather fans! its annoying and they dont really support the club, they just go to see big name players.
Eg. when i went to birmingham match at home (yes yes, we wernt great) a guy infront of me said why do we call it football & not soccer... ffs, go away if u dont support the team, make room for some1 who does!
good luck in ur fa cup game (as much i hope to see u go out)... we're gonna need it ffs. ARSENAL!? again!? away!? again!? not looking good im afraid :(
ah well COME ON CHELSEA!!!!!
Zizou_Zizi
29-01-2004, 13:54
Similar to Real fans.
Ask someone on the street he'll say he supports ManU,
ask him 2morrow it's Chelsea, ask again it's Real.
MatPhillips
29-01-2004, 20:13
I know its already been brought up, but it really annoys me so I thought I'd say my bit. Our fans get so much stick for not coming from Manchester and being glory hunters and it's just so unfair. Don't people realises that your team chooses you? I'm a Manchester United fan because my mothers Irish and over there you either support United or Liverpool. I was pretty much told by my family I was supporting United by my uncles who had supported United all through their barren patch. They weren't glory hunters, and neither am I. Its so upsetting as well because Manchester United means so much to me. I always watch United on the tele even if it means not going out that day, and I would travel to every home game if I could (and I live in crappy London) but I just cant get tickets, and even if I could, I wouldn't be able to afford them, and I know that theres so many United fans who would travel even further to see United play. I know all about the history of United and then all I get is bloody goonners coming up to me giving me abuse when they don't know anything about their club.
I agree that there is a lot of so called United supporters who don't know a thing about United and just support them as an easy option, and they give the rest of us a bad name. All I can say is that I was born a Red and I will DIE a Red, even if we never see another bit of silverware for 100 years (god forbid!)
EXACTLY!
i gave up arguing this point long ago, as i too started supporting them in their barron spell!
good on ya mate!
Zizou_Zizi
29-01-2004, 21:44
Most people first heard of MU so support them.
I was like that.
But if I'm given the choice now it might not have been them...
MatPhillips
30-01-2004, 21:36
me too. but like i said on here long ago, you cant change your team after 14 years of supporting them can you???? (in my case anyway)
The Vitality
31-01-2004, 01:07
Far too many supporters have absolutely no clue as to what constitutes supporting a club for a reason. Take my friends for example, one supports Man U because his Dad went to college there. Now correct me if I am wrong, but that is not a reason, it's an excuse. Or, another friend who supports Liverpool because his cousin does. Now to me it makes no sense whatsoever to say that. Now my point is, it's very very common in Man U fans for these excuses to be used for supporting a team. It's why I dislike Man U intensely.
And trust me, I am a born and bred Gooner, it will never change. ;)
Yeah and thats great, you were born a bred a gooner, I was born a bred a red devil. Aliright I'm not from Manchester, but how did I know that when I was a toddaler? I had no say in the matter, mainly because of my Irish background. Any one that says you have to support your local team is talking shit. Your team picks YOU! you don't pick them. Even if when I'd got a bit older and United weren't doing well, it wouldn't have changed me supporting United, and it never will. I've always supported United more when things aren't going well and weather we're successful or not has no bearing as to why I support them.
and trust me, I am a born a bred Red Devil, it will never change
The Vitality
31-01-2004, 04:28
Man U did indeed choose you, however, if you life in the south of England, you will see an abnormal amount of Man U shirts. They support them purely because of the success.
adams9802
31-01-2004, 04:35
Man U did indeed choose you, however, if you life in the south of England, you will see an abnormal amount of Man U shirts. They support them purely because of the success.
and isn't that one of the perks of being succesful? I mean I really don't see the issue, I've never really connected with the notion that all mancs or most of them are glory hunters, and if they were who cares. And Man United has always been the best supported club in england.
The Vitality
31-01-2004, 04:41
It may indeed be a perk for the "money men" at Old Trafford, but look at it from this perspective. You are going to Highbury, but when inside the ground there is no atmosphere, when would this happen? It would happen when Arsenal dominate Englsih football for years. Now it would incense me to sit around others who are there purely because at that moment in time we are winners. I could not bare that. And I assure you it happens at Old Trafford.
adams9802
31-01-2004, 04:45
It may indeed be a perk for the "money men" at Old Trafford, but look at it from this perspective. You are going to Highbury, but when inside the ground there is no atmosphere, when would this happen? It would happen when Arsenal dominate Englsih football for years. Now it would incense me to sit around others who are there purely because at that moment in time we are winners. I could not bare that. And I assure you it happens at Old Trafford.
I understand. I guess as gooners it may be hard because no one has ever liked us ;)
The Vitality
31-01-2004, 04:54
I would rather it was like that, than a bunch of morons who know nothing about football ranting about "their" team being the best. ;)
I'll admit that ther are a lot of "man yoo" fans who don't know anything about the club and support them purely because they've won a few trophies, i know quite a few. but they give the rest of us a bad name. There are plenty of die hard reds in london who bleed united and will always be behind the team, just as there are up and down the country.
Zizou_Zizi
01-02-2004, 09:27
They other people like this support Real.
Real fan in name, and some haven't heard of Figo or Raul in their lfe yet.
This is the official Manchester United thread, obviously really big news and discussions can warrant their very own thread, but for small things, such as the signing of unknown young players etc, its probably best we post it here and not in its own thread.
Foxhound
31-07-2004, 13:56
yeah~~ i thought we didnt have a thread like this before.. that i posted in a thread about rangers_fc complained about this and blaa blaa
Foxhound
31-07-2004, 16:13
NY times article about Spector
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/31/sports/soccer/31soccer.html?ex=1091937600&en=7801af31238033fa&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1
A Chance Switch Opened a Path to United
By JACK BELL
Published: July 31, 2004
AST RUTHERFORD, N.J., July 30 - Serendipity smiled on Jonathan Spector two years ago at a youth soccer tournament in Ireland.
John Ellinger, the coach of the United States under-17 national team, was short of defenders. He looked down his bench and saw Spector, a striker.
"There were a bunch of European scouts at the game, including some from Manchester United," Spector said Friday. "They had come to see some forward from Austria. Just by coincidence, I marked him and marked him out of the game."
So instead of asking about the Austrian, United's scouts went home to England hooked on Spector, the 6-foot-1-inch, 180-pound newly minted defender from Arlington Heights, Ill.
On Saturday afternoon, he will play for Manchester United against A.C. Milan in a ChampionsWorld Series tour match at Giants Stadium. "This is a great opportunity for me, playing with one of the greatest teams in the world," Spector said.
Spector, who played for the Chicago Sockers, spent a year at the United States Soccer Federation's residency camp in Bradenton, Fla., before signing with United in September 2003. He avoided work permit and visa problems because his mother is German, and he holds a German passport.
Last season was spent on United's under-19 team, with only one game on the senior team's bench during an English Premier League match late in the season, a disappointing one in which United slumped to a third-place finish.
Sir Alex Ferguson, United's Scottish manager, brought Spector along for the club's second-straight summer visit to the United States and gave him his first start with the senior team, against Bayern Munich last Sunday before a hometown crowd in Chicago.
"It had special significance because not many players get to make their professional debuts in their hometowns," said Spector, who is taking correspondence courses from Indiana University. "I was anxious and excited, but not too nervous."
He played again in Wednesday's loss to Glasgow Celtic in Philadelphia and was called for a foul on Celtic's Chris Sutton in the penalty area. But Ferguson's confidence in Spector has not been shaken.
"He spots danger very well for a young lad," Ferguson told Sky Sports. "He is very quick and is a good athlete. He has only been with us nine months, but in that time he has made great strides."
Spector's grandfather, Art, was one of the original members of the Boston Celtics, playing in the 1946-47 season of the old Basketball Association of America, the forerunner of the National Basketball Association.
Spector said he really does not miss playing striker. "As a defender I can see the whole field, and I might have a bit of an edge because I still think I have a striker's mentality - I know when they're going to make their runs," he said.
Spector is among a handful of American players with United. They include the starting goalkeeper Tim Howard and the under-19 players Kenny Cooper and Giuseppe Rossi. Rossi is the son of the former coach of Clifton (N.J.) High School, Fernando Rossi, and played with Parma's under-19 team before recently signing with Manchester United.
7RONALDO7
31-07-2004, 19:10
I think Spector has done very well, especally in the Pre-Season Friendly's, I think he will be one of few who will make it in the First team, also I think Eagles and Bardsley will also make it!!
MattShez
31-07-2004, 22:11
I dont like Richardson, ive seen him play in the reserves once, every1 seems to have a high opinion of him but i think he is crap! am i the only 1 who doesnt like this kid?
7RONALDO7
31-07-2004, 22:14
Yep........................... .............(like the only one who hate's GTA SA!! LOL JOKE!!)
MattShez
31-07-2004, 23:38
Dont keep bringing that up, people are entitled to thier own opinions!
Foxhound
01-08-2004, 06:31
which reserve players will have the chance to play in 1st team football next season?? i think Spector and Eagles will have the chance.. maybe Spector can replace one of our CBs in the future
7RONALDO7
01-08-2004, 22:07
I think Eagles, Spector and Bradsley will make it, im not sure Djordjic of Richardson will thought but i'm no the boss, so they might!
7RONALDO7
01-08-2004, 22:08
Dont keep bringing that up, people are entitled to thier own opinions!
MattShez, do you ever READ?
I said it was JOKE, but you don't know what that is though do you?
Lord Shrimpeh
01-08-2004, 22:41
I think Richardson or Eagles should back up Giggs, they have impressed me more than the rest. I think they should be brought on in the Carling Cup and at the end of matches we're winning easily so that we can see more of them.
Foxhound
02-08-2004, 07:41
Ruud and Saha return for United
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson should be spoilt for choice up front in the Vodafone Cup on Tuesday.
Ruud van Nistelrooy is set to face his former side PSV Eindhoven at Old Trafford as is Louis Saha.
Both stayed behind to work on their fitness while United were away on a three-game 10-day tour of the United States.
And in their absence £7m buy Alan Smith staked a claim for regular start with a string of impressive displays.
While van Nistelrooy and Saha have been pencilled in for the start of the tournament, Darren Fletcher and Quinton Fortune are likely to face Urawa Red Diamonds on Thursday.
Ferguson said: "The thing uppermost in my mind is how van Nistelrooy, Saha, Fletcher and Fortune are.
from teamtalk
Foxhound
02-08-2004, 12:17
forlan's new haircut!
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2004350909,00.jpg
and compare his hair to...
http://my.core.com/~pauleod/intro.jpg
Tenacious D
02-08-2004, 12:25
i love th sig^^^^ about forland so where do u lot think man u will end up dis year???
Foxhound
02-08-2004, 12:34
i dunno.. hopefully we will win the epl
me: just like SAF i wanna see MU win the epl rather than CL
MattShez
02-08-2004, 19:26
Man u will hopefully win the prem, if not second (hopefully not that bad) plus i hope they do really well in the CL since its been a few years since we were in the Semis
Papa Lazarou
02-08-2004, 20:48
Do You Think Forlan will be a Man U player for much longer? He said he wants to stay now and personally i want him to!
am i the only guy who thinks he's a decent player?
Er yeah u are. He's had 3 (count them; 2001/02, 2002/03, 2003/04) seasons to prove himself and hes never been consistent in any of those seasons. Yeah he aint had many games but the truth is he loses the ball too often and his first touch and finishing abilities are not good enough for our standards.
I bet if wenger had bought him, he would have converted him into a natural right winger by now.
so do you think wenger is a better manager than fergie at this present moment of time cause i do. i think fergie is past it. his big signing this summer is alan smith. alan smith is SHIT.
Papa Lazarou
02-08-2004, 22:27
FERGIE PAST IT!!!
How can you say that. It is clear form the past two seasons of Transfers (Howard Ronaldo etc) that Fergie has a c;ear plan and knows exactly what he's doing he is building another team of young players like the giigs, scholes, beckham, nevilles era
I have all faith in Fergie and beleive me then future is bright for United with Fergie
FERGIE IS UNITED
Foxhound
03-08-2004, 07:12
Chadwick completes Hammers switch
West Ham have completed the signing of Manchester United winger Luke Chadwick on a free transfer.
The former England Under-21 international was unable to win a regular place in the United midfield despite a handful of impressive appearances as a teenager.
Chadwick spent all of last season on loan with Burnley, scoring five goals, and has also had spells with Royal Antwerp and Reading.
His three-month stint with the Royals at the end of 2002-03 season first brought him under the guidance of current Hammers boss Alan Pardew.
Pardew told the club's official website: "I am delighted to have signed a player with great potential.
"Luke did well for me when I took him to Reading and I expect him to become an exciting and important part of the squad.
"He is certainly a player the fans will enjoy watching."
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,867213,00.html
Foxhound
03-08-2004, 07:21
right wing against chelsea?? who's gonna play there?? CR is away for the shi**y U-23 olympics.. Fletcher is suspended.. so i think Smith will get the call
Lord Shrimpeh
03-08-2004, 23:27
I doubt he'll play Smith after he said he would only play him as a good old fashioned centre forward. I think Fergie needs to buy a right sided midfielder, if CR is out till nov and even then he gets given rests.... Joaquin would do nicely
Foxhound
04-08-2004, 06:57
finally!!! we won a pre-season match.. against PSV.. silvestre scored the winner!! but sad to see RVN didnt score against his old club
Foxhound
04-08-2004, 07:09
1 - Tim Howard
2 - Gary Neville
3 - Phil Neville
4 - Gabriel Heinze
5 - Rio Ferdinand
6 - Wes Brown
7 - Cristiano Ronaldo
9 - Louis Saha
10 - Ruud Van Nistelrooy
11 - Ryan Giggs
12 - David Bellion
13 - Roy Caroll
14 - Alan Smith
15 - Kleberson
16 - Roy Keane
17 - Liam Miller
18 - Paul Scholes
19 - Eric Djemba Djemba
20 - Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
21 - Diego Forlan
22 - John O'Shea
23 - Kieran Richardson
24 - Darren Fletcher
25 - Quinton Fortune
26 - Phil Bardsley
27 - Mikael Silvestre
29 - Jon Spector
30 - Luke Steele
31 - David Jones
33 - Chris Eagles
35 - Ricardo
37 - Kenny Cooper
38 - Tom Heaton
39 - Paul Tierney
___--
why Pique doesnt has a jersey number?? he should get #8
Where did you get them from?
Foxhound
04-08-2004, 09:16
redcafe.net
Are they confirmed or are they just guesses?
Foxhound
04-08-2004, 10:16
i edited my post.. so i guess they are guessing
are you happy that scholes has retired from international football?? i'm not so happy! but we must respect his decision
7RONALDO7
04-08-2004, 10:40
Im kind of glad really, because this means that he can consentrate more on United!
7RONALDO7
04-08-2004, 10:41
finally!!! we won a pre-season match.. against PSV.. silvestre scored the winner!! but sad to see RVN didnt score against his old club
Yeh, i went, good match, I also got to see Boca stuff Red Diamonds free!!
Lookin 4ward 2 the new season - cant wait!!!
Aint sure what Fergie is goin 2 do on the right side of our midfield though
No Ronaldo - no Flethcer who is he gonna play there???
Also - does ny1 know what squad no. Pique is gonna have???
7RONALDO7
04-08-2004, 23:59
My Dad's mate knows someone close to United's transfer manager's (David Gill etc) and he saw him at the match between United and PSV and he said to my Dad that The transfer manager has said that United have left the number 8 shirt for A BIG SIGNING!!!
This is because everyone was saying that United cannot compete with Real Madrid and Chelsea In the Transfer Market!!!!
This Is about 70% TRUE but I hope it is 100% true!!!
Assuming it's not complete bullshit, it's either Hesselink, van Bommel or Marquinho.
Big signings indeed...
Unless of course your 'inside info' is about 8 months old and the original target was Robben.
Flipper the Priest
05-08-2004, 00:18
Gerald Sibon?
BTW Man U have signed some German keeper. Please talk about it in here and DO NOT OPEN A NEW THREAD
Full story......
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=217827&cpid=22
Gerald Sibon?
Heerenveen isn't he?
Sheffield Wednesday at one point too I remember!
Flipper the Priest
05-08-2004, 00:42
He's at PSV.
He was playing the other night.
Foxhound
05-08-2004, 11:13
he's our second german GK we signed right?
MattShez
05-08-2004, 12:49
Hes only 15 aswell! Ive been watching some of the matches on MUTV, just think, im his age!
My Dad's mate knows someone close to United's transfer manager's (David Gill etc) and he saw him at the match between United and PSV and he said to my Dad that The transfer manager has said that United have left the number 8 shirt for A BIG SIGNING!!!
This is because everyone was saying that United cannot compete with Real Madrid and Chelsea In the Transfer Market!!!!
This Is about 70% TRUE but I hope it is 100% true!!!
I have heard rumours about the number eight thing aswell - and i was just thinking...weren't Man Utd linked with Joaquin a few months back????
It would make sense aswell seeing as we have a weakness on the right of midfield.
Ny1 have any thoughts bout this or who it might be???
Weakness on the right side of midfield? Surely you couldn't have forgotten Cronaldo and his wikiid trikz?
Squad numbers are left out all the time, it's not a hint at a possible transfer.
Foxhound
06-08-2004, 06:51
how come OGS doesnt have squad number??
Weakness on the right side of midfield? Surely you couldn't have forgotten Cronaldo and his wikiid trikz?
Squad numbers are left out all the time, it's not a hint at a possible transfer.
No - I havent 4got about Ronaldo
But he is out 4 a while cos of the olympics though 4 portugal so we dnt really have ny1 2 play on the wing.
Foxhound
07-08-2004, 11:14
who's gonna win the charity match?? will it be ManU or Arsenal?? i think its depends on ManU starting line-up.. if we play with our reserve team, we will get a beating by arsenal
BTW, SAF said that our german GK has great talent!
http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsId=90534&itype=466&icategoryid=603
7RONALDO7
07-08-2004, 12:31
BTW, SAF said that our german GK has great talent!
iNewsId=90534&itype=466&icategoryid=603[/url]
He is only 15 isn't he? United, agian thinking about the future!!
No - I havent 4got about Ronaldo
But he is out 4 a while cos of the olympics though 4 portugal so we dnt really have ny1 2 play on the wing.
What?
Foxhound
07-08-2004, 13:21
No - I havent forgot about Ronaldo
But he is out for a while cause' of the olympics though for portugal so we didnt really have any one to play on the wing.
better...
yeah we didnt have anyone to play on the right wing!! i hope fletcher will play @ CMF and move Scholes on the right wing
the team against Arsenal in the communtiy shield on sunday will prob be-:
Howard
O'Shea silvestre Brown G.neville
Richardson Scholes Keane Eagles
Saha Smith
DARK JAK
07-08-2004, 14:29
the team against Arsenal in the communtiy shield on sunday will prob be-:
Howard
O'Shea silvestre Brown G.neville
Richardson Scholes Keane Eagles
Saha Smith
walk over for arsenal then :D
walk over for arsenal then
hah we see
i know this is the man utd thread but the arsenal team to play man utd tmoorow will be
lehmann hah (dodgy)
Lauren cygan (hah) toure a.cole
Ljunberg Gilberto Pires van persie (who? lol)
Reyes Bergkamp
Foxhound
08-08-2004, 05:55
we wont have saha! he's injured!! i think we will play 4-4-1-1 or 4-5-1
i think its gonna be like this
howard
g.nev..brown..silvestre...o'sh ea
eagles..keane...miller...giggs
.........scholes...
...........smith
Foxhound
08-08-2004, 08:21
JOE KINNEAR has told Andy Reid that he can do better than Tottenham — and has recommended him to Alex Ferguson, writes JANINE SELF.
Winger Reid, 22, slapped in a transfer request last week after Nottingham Forest rejected a £3million offer from Spurs.
But Forest boss Kinnear, who values Reid at £5m, reckons that his star is destined for one of the Premiership’s bigger clubs.
And he has mentioned Reid’s name to Old Trafford boss Fergie.
Kinnear said: “I spoke to Alex two days ago and he asked me who is my best player and I told him it was Andy.
“I said ‘He’s good enough to get in your team.’ He really is one for the future and there are not too many around like him.”
Reid’s transfer request has been refused by Forest and the player will be in the team which kicks off against Wigan today.
And Wigan boss Paul Jewell has told his side, who just missed a top six spot last season, to look at Forest if they need a warning how success can rapidly turn to disaster.
Forest’s dramatic decline from play-off hopefuls to relegation candidates within 12 months emphasises the dangers facing his side.
Jewell said: “Just because you did well last year doesn’t mean you turn up and everything will happen.”
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interesting eh?? if we sign him.. we can use him as LW cover.. i wish he will not end up like bellion
Foxhound
10-08-2004, 07:46
i think SAF should go with this:
howard
g.neville brown o'shea spector
eagles djemba² keane giggs
.....scholes
.................smith
Darth Daft
10-08-2004, 09:01
i think SAF should go with this:
howard
g.neville brown o'shea spector
eagles djemba² keane giggs
.....scholes
.................smith
Brown is injured man. O'shea has turned into, like the shittest defender ever and its a big ask of Spector to play full back in Europe for the first time.
Id drop Keane into defence for the first leg, and have a midfield and upfront pairing of
Fletcher, Eagles, Scholes, Giggs.
Smith, Forlan/Saha if fit
Foxhound
10-08-2004, 10:09
source (http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,870885,00.html)
Speculation is mounting that Manchester United are getting ready to make a late transfer plunge to bridge the gaping hole in their strikeforce.
With leading scorer Ruud van Nistelrooy out for the first month of the season and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer set to miss the whole of the campaign, Sir Alex Ferguson is expected to make an 11th hour bid to bring in new blood.
Everton and England hitman Wayne Rooney would seem the obvious choice, but United could turn their attention elsewhere because of the Goodison Park club's demands for a £30m-plus fee.
Ferguson is more likely to play a waiting game for the 18-year-old, a make him his main target during either the January transfer window or next summer, with Rooney said to be keen to switch to Old Trafford an demanding a get-out clause in his next contract should he agree to stay on at Everton.
Arsenal's Sylvain Wiltord is the latest name to be linked with United while in the meantime Ferguson has blocked all transfer talk involving Uruguayan striker Diego Forlan.
He was said to be ready to move to Spain last week but instead finds himself favourite to partner new-boy Alan Smith as United begin their competitive season on Wednesday night with a Champions League qualifier in Romania.
"Solskjaer is a miss which is why I'm not inclined to let Diego go," said Ferguson. "There has been a lot of coming and going in the last couple of weeks regarding clubs in Spain trying to get him in on the cheap.
"But nothing has really excited us to let him move so since what has happened to Solskjaer and now van Nistelrooy it means he won't be going out now."
Darth Daft
10-08-2004, 14:47
squad travelling to Romania
UNITED'S TRAVELLING SQUAD
Goalkeepers: Howard, Carroll, Ricardo
Defenders: G Neville, P Neville, O'Shea, Silvestre, Spector, Bardsley, Fortune
Midfielders: Giggs, Bellion, Keane, Miller, Scholes, Djemba-Djemba, Richardson, Fletcher, Eagles.
Forwards: Smith, Forlan
glad Millers going, hopefully he's fit. Not many different combos available to Sir Alex in that lot though :(
this one could be tough. :eek:
did u see the team that was on sky yesterday of the outfield eleven man utd could field at the moment?? it was worthy on champions
Foxhound
11-08-2004, 07:27
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=306648&cc=4716
we are considering to buy a striker!!! i hope Morientes could be one of them!
Darth Daft
11-08-2004, 11:56
i heard were only thinking of a small outlay though, we dont really need another striker, i think a loan deal would be the best option.
Wether we'd get anyone of decent quality on loan at this late stage, im not too sure of, no point going out getting another striker if theyre not going to be good enough.
7RONALDO7
11-08-2004, 22:28
It's not even going to be Rooney as he is Injured aswell, I hope it will be Morientes as well, un-nicked!!
Since Morientes played today he'd be cup tied, so I doubt you're getting him.
Foxhound
12-08-2004, 09:42
highlights of the match
http://www.totalsport.ro/img/db/news/3935/dimu.wmv
i'm impressed by dj2 performance
i think thats what he meant when he said we are yet to see the 'real' dj2
7RONALDO7
12-08-2004, 10:41
Yeh DjDj had a good game, I also thought That Liam Miller played well in the 30minutes or so he was on, He set up the own Goal etc!
Lord Shrimpeh
12-08-2004, 14:20
What do you think of united apparently bidding for Vassel? We need a striker as a stop gap until Ruud + Saha comes back and its pointless buying a star when they will want to be played all the time and we already have a surplus, especially if we're gonna buy Rooney. However I think we should go for someone like Morienties on a short term loan if possible, it doesn't matter about being cup tied as Ruud + Saha will hopefully be back (or at least Saha) for the group stage. Vassell would just replace Forlan as last choice striker and I dunno how much impression he could make anyway.
http://fs.football365.com/Teams/Aston_Villa/story_121769.shtml
Foxhound
12-08-2004, 16:29
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,872036,00.html
vassel going nowhere!!
also, MU has announce their premiership squad jersey number
Lord Shrimpeh
12-08-2004, 19:34
Its much the same link as I had. Why does it matter about squad numbers? They can still buy a new player, perhaps not Darius but Fergie did say he may have to bring in a new striker.
yea i heard its gonna be j.Defoe of tottenham to Man utd 10million
Darth Daft
16-08-2004, 00:19
Itll be Beattie for less than 10m. You heard it here first!
beattie na doubt its gonna be defoe
zidet_the_tall
16-08-2004, 00:33
beattie is going to newcastle and defoe to man u
We definately need a new striker, there is no doubt about that. Ole will probably never play again and there is no way that Bellion and Forlan are of good enough quality to play for Manchester United.
We've got a lot more to worry about than just strikers. Our 1st 11 is more than capable of beating any team in this league and most teams in Europe. However I dont think anyone can really remember the last time we had our 1st choice 11 available at the same time.
As much as I dont want to say it, players like Bellion, Forlan, Fortune, Kleberson etc just aren't good enough to win the Premiership. Our squad is the least talented of all the teams in the top 3 without a shadow of a doubt.
Lord Shrimpeh
16-08-2004, 19:06
I think the last time we had our first 11 fit was when we were 4 points ahead at the top of the premiership. In my view we should wait and buy Rooney and get a loan in the mean time. We also need quality back up in midfield and defense, especially for Scholes he seems the only creative player we have in central midfield.
Foxhound
17-08-2004, 08:13
we are unlikely to sign a striker
as said by soccernet
If things are that bad I think Fergie could do worse than bring a couple of the youngsters into the first team. Their displays were very encouraging in the US tour. Ronaldo could be back early as Portugal aren't faring too well in the Olympics (though he has 2 wc qualifiers for Portugal too) Bellion has shown promising flashes during matches, but I really think Diego Forlan has to be moved on now, as much as he is well thought of by the fans he clearly isn't United quality. Encouraging news about Saha though, some newspapers claim he may be fit this Saturday for the Norwich game.
Mike.
7RONALDO7
18-08-2004, 00:42
Burnley 1-3 Manchester United
Did anyone see this match, it was on MuTv, Paul Scholes scored a GREAT goal!!!!!
Bellion, oh no, this guy has shown the worst 1st touch OT has ever seen. No way the kid is even Premiership quality.
I really hope I'm wrong
7RONALDO7
18-08-2004, 00:45
What about Forlan, he is worse!!!!!!!
And Bellion is Sh*te!
Lost seraphim
18-08-2004, 05:48
If things are that bad I think Fergie could do worse than bring a couple of the youngsters into the first team. Their displays were very encouraging in the US tour. Ronaldo could be back early as Portugal aren't faring too well in the Olympics (though he has 2 wc qualifiers for Portugal too) Bellion has shown promising flashes during matches, but I really think Diego Forlan has to be moved on now, as much as he is well thought of by the fans he clearly isn't United quality. Encouraging news about Saha though, some newspapers claim he may be fit this Saturday for the Norwich game.
Mike. Even if Ronaldo flies back to England early, I think Fergie will rest him for a while
Burnley 1-3 Manchester United
Did anyone see this match, it was on MuTv, Paul Scholes scored a GREAT goal!!!!!
Chris Eagles' goal was quality too, I'm really impressed with how he has come on over the past few months. Guiseppe Rossi looked quite lively up front too, unlucky his goal was offside, that was a neat finish.
Looking forward to seeing Gerrard Pique soon, I've read good things about him.
Mike.
Lord Shrimpeh
18-08-2004, 22:33
What about Forlan, he is worse!!!!!!!
And Bellion is Sh*te!
I think Forlan is better than Bellion, at least he occasionally scores and he has scored some important goals too. He is still crap though. I never thought there could be a worse striker than Forlan but somehow Bellion is. He ain't that young so he won't improve, he is the pace and acceleration but everything else is crap. I think scoring on his debut is the only thing he has ever done for United, mores the pity.
Portugal are out the Olympics now but I don't think Ronaldo will be coming back soon :( I dunno why he needs a rest, he had quite a lot of time between Euro 2004 and the Olympics and he can't be short of match practice.
united desperately need to buy a midfielder. we dont have a good enough midfield to contend for the title. players like flecher, djemba, phil neville, fortune couldnt dream of getting into the team in 1999, so why are they playing now. this clearly shows we are heading downhill. we needed to buy ronaldinho but didnt. that isnt the problem. the problem is we didnt buy anyone instead.
united desperately need to buy a midfielder. we dont have a good enough midfield to contend for the title. players like flecher, djemba, phil neville, fortune couldnt dream of getting into the team in 1999, so why are they playing now. this clearly shows we are heading downhill. we needed to buy ronaldinho but didnt. that isnt the problem. the problem is we didnt buy anyone instead.
MY GOD ur right lol.... when they let becks and veron go i was almost crying , well not really.... they havent really filled the gap since
Foxhound
19-08-2004, 05:50
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics_2004/football/3578264.stm
good news guys!!! hopefully we will see CR soon!!!! maybe as a sub against norwich
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics_2004/football/3578264.stm
good news guys!!! hopefully we will see CR soon!!!! maybe as a sub against norwich
I dont think Fergie will play him on his first match back. As mutch as I want to see him play Sir Alex willl prob rest him 4 the weekend cos think about it - its only Norwich. We hardly need a full team to beat them ;)
I just hope we can put a few past norwich to give us good goal difference and put us in a remotely good place in the table. I know its early days but we still need to be up there at the top
Portugal may want to hold on to Ronnie because they have two upcoming World Cup qualifiers - I wouldn't expect Sir Alex to play him till after then as he has had practically no rest since last christmas. Fergie has hinted that he may be rested till late October. Hope I'm wrong, United are missing him badly.
Mike.
Lord Shrimpeh
19-08-2004, 12:05
Didn't he have rest between Euro 2004 and the Olympics? Thats probably as much rest as any of the team had.
tomdaman2
19-08-2004, 12:36
You guys are right we do need another midfileder in the sqaud that can create more chances like beckham. Also we shud not play o'shea in centre mid he is rubbish. Any of u goin norwihc game?
Foxhound
19-08-2004, 14:19
- its only Norwich.
you can't underestimate a premiership newcomer.. remember wolves and pompey?? they made a shock win against us in the last season
7RONALDO7
19-08-2004, 14:37
I remember When Norwich Were in the Prem and United use to beat them ALL the Time!!!!
Didn't he have rest between Euro 2004 and the Olympics? Thats probably as much rest as any of the team had.
I think he only had one or two weeks, I think he went into training with the Portuguese squad again pretty much straight away. Given the fact that as a youngster Fergie will wrap him in cotton wool - I don't think Ronnie has had anywhere near the break that Fergie wants. Remember he had two months break in the middle of last season. I could see Fergie reluctantly throwing him back into the team early, especially if our results don't improve. Saha should be there or thereabouts for Norwich though, so that's a plus. It'll be interesting to see how Saha and Smith play together.
Mike.
Hopefiully Saha and Smith will have a good partnership up front
They r both fast so they should cause the other teams defence some problems and we all know that smith has a good shot on him (the Community Shield Volley ;) ) and Saha didnt get in2 the French national squad for nuthin so hopefully they should b able to do a good enuff job until Nistelrooy is back.
1 question - WTF did Fergie buy Bellion for??? He is nowhere near gud enuff 2 even challenge for a place in the Man Utd squad and he hasnt shown ny signs of improvement. He will barely even make a mark on the reserve team let alone the first team!!!
Hopefiully Saha and Smith will have a good partnership up front
They r both fast so they should cause the other teams defence some problems and we all know that smith has a good shot on him (the Community Shield Volley ;) ) and Saha didnt get in2 the French national squad for nuthin so hopefully they should b able to do a good enuff job until Nistelrooy is back.
1 question - WTF did Fergie buy Bellion for??? He is nowhere near gud enuff 2 even challenge for a place in the Man Utd squad and he hasnt shown ny signs of improvement. He will barely even make a mark on the reserve team let alone the first team!!!
Bellion is seen as a long term investment, he has excellent potential and Sir Alex is very pleased at the rate at which Bellion is learning the top level game, if his interviews are anything to go by. Personally I think Bellion is coming along OK.
Mike.
Papa Lazarou
20-08-2004, 19:26
Diego Forlan Has Left United...and i for one am sad to see him go. i felt he had alot of potential
qwerty12
20-08-2004, 20:25
Smith and Saha are too similar to play in the same team. I think you need a holding forward like Scholes or Nistelrooy. Someone to lay the ball off for them to chase then the holding player can find a good pos. in the box, and we all know how good Scholes and Nistelrooy are at that...
Foxhound
21-08-2004, 05:39
some part of me agree that forlan is gone but some part of me doesnt!! why did we sell forlan when we are short of strikers??? i think we need to sign a striker before the transfer window closes! we need Rooney or a Ruud type of striker
Lord Shrimpeh
21-08-2004, 12:50
Forlan was never gonna be very good. I'm glad he has gone, Saha will be back next week and then we'll have two strikers fit. In a few weeks we'll have Van the man back and we'll buy Rooney in January, sorted! As long as we beat Norwich...
7RONALDO7
21-08-2004, 13:08
I hope Ronaldo will play today agaisnt Norwich as I cannot wait to see him skin the defence to shreads!!!!!
Foxhound
21-08-2004, 15:30
thanks for all your goals that you scored for ManUtd!!
hope you success at spain
thanks for all your goals that you scored for ManUtd!!
hope you success at spain
lol but i reckon forlan will do well for his new club
Lord Shrimpeh
21-08-2004, 19:29
Full Time
Man Utd 2 - 1 Norwich
Bellion 33 McVeigh 75
Smith 50
wat a goal by alan smith :eek: early contender for goal of the season... great to see c.ronaldo running rings around their defenders :D
Yeah that was a terrific goal from Smithy! Great strike! We were hanging on a bit towards the end, but at least today we had a bit more cutting edge to our performance. We still have a long, long way to go before we're back anywhere near our best though.
adams9802
21-08-2004, 20:21
wat a goal by alan smith :eek: early contender for goal of the season... great to see c.ronaldo running rings around their defenders :D
I'm suprised to see Fergie throw him in there like that...I wonder if he's gonna rest the poor lad at all? Methinks he might pick up an injury if he's not rested.
I'm suprised to see Fergie throw him in there like that...I wonder if he's gonna rest the poor lad at all? Methinks he might pick up an injury if he's not rested.
man utd were under bit of pressure so he chucks on ronaldo to do some skills not just step-overs and to relieve presure.
Foxhound
24-08-2004, 09:11
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=308037&cc=4716
do you think rvn will lose his place and become out-of-favour??
i doubt rvn will lose his place due to his prolific record
tomdaman2
24-08-2004, 19:30
Ruud wont lose his place he is a natural goal scorer and had done alot for the club.
According to Skysports, Darren Fletcher and Kleberson will both return against Dynamo Bucharest tomorrow - Ronaldo is also expected to start. Good news too about Solskjaer, his Doctor has said he will be able to play again in about a year's time :( , but at least his career isn't finished :)
And yes that was a great goal by Alan Smith! Bellion took his well too.
Mike.
yea ferguson reckons Kleberson will be brilliant this season
7RONALDO7
25-08-2004, 14:18
I dont like Kleberson at all, he is the only Brazillian who cant head or shoot!!!
DeanMc15
25-08-2004, 14:50
lol i agree. No wonder united havnt got any money 2 spend when we are paying for players like Kleberson. South americans always seem 2 struggle in the premiership.
Foxhound
25-08-2004, 14:51
i hope we will win this match.. i think SAF will rest CR for the epl match on saturday
DeanMc15
25-08-2004, 14:56
yes i agree cos he only came back from the olympics on friday and he needs a rest after his excellent performance in euro2004
Man utd have tabled a 20million bid for rooney same as wat newcastle offered toffes prob reject it
Harry-Kewell
25-08-2004, 19:17
Man utd have tabled a 20million bid for rooney same as wat newcastle offered toffes prob reject it
Source?
7RONALDO7
25-08-2004, 19:20
Yeh, it's true, Sky Sports have confrimed it!!
It will become an Auction(sp) With United and Newcastle, It's likely Rooney will chose United over Newcastle!!!
NEWS JUST IN: Newcastle will increase there bud to 22Million tommorow!
Mc Clean
25-08-2004, 19:24
why is Newcastle and United wasting their time on Rooney! they can buy better, more exprienced players . . . . . .
you see man utd were blantintely interested since euro 2004, everton will prob push newcaslte and man utd to make a higher offer, i reckon maxium they would pay is £27 million
Mc Clean
25-08-2004, 19:29
27million!!!!!!!!!! i swear that is unbelieveable, he aint even that good!
i know £27 million too much, but i hear that everton are looking in region of that much
7RONALDO7
25-08-2004, 21:41
Are we every going to get rid of Bellion? 2/2 goals!!!!
Smith has been playing well, again, also Ronaldo was great, asuall, did anyone see his skill at the end of the first half? and people say that he is only just a one trick pony!!!!!
Lost seraphim
26-08-2004, 00:54
why is Newcastle and United wasting their time on Rooney! they can buy better, more exprienced players . . . . . .
he could........and it'd be so easy, but if Fergie would've bought someone more experienced over someone like C. Ronaldo, he would've deprived the entire world of bringing out such an exceptional talent
he could've bought better ppl at the time of young beckham, giggs, scholes, and the entire core crew of man utd, but Sir Alex didn't, he chose to bring up his own superstars, that's why I respect him so much, and that's the beauty of a club like Man Utd compared to a club like Real Madrid
Foxhound
26-08-2004, 06:14
http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=98952&itype=466&icategoryid=120
the news is true..
Smith played really well last night
Foxhound
26-08-2004, 06:31
highlights
high quality: http://www.gsp.ro/files/public/video/manutddinamohigh.wmv
Ronaldo skill
http://www.shokz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ronaldo.zip
Darth Daft
26-08-2004, 18:07
Decent Champions League group for us, i think Lyon will be the toughest match.
Gonna try and get tickets for Prague v Utd right now
dem bitches are hot! :)
Hows the 'Welcome Back Karel' banner coming on, Darth?
qwerty12
26-08-2004, 19:22
What do you guy's think of the draw? Like Darth Daft said; Lyon will probably be the toughest games. Although I think we will walk it and finish top unbeaten with a couple of draws. Or is that wishfull thinking? I think not!
Mc Clean
26-08-2004, 19:34
u dont know m8, but like always manU always get the easy groups and show it too
It's a good draw but I don't think there is such a thing as an "easy draw" anymore, just look at those Swiss guys who beat Liverpool on Tuesday. You take any team for granted and you're gonna get burnt. Lyon will put us up against Giovanni Elber again, and he certainly did some damage when we played Bayern a few years ago. Sparta will re-unite us with Mr Poborsky (who now looks the player United hoped he'd be for them) and going to Turkey is never easy either. I think United will progress but I don't think it's going to be quite as easy as some think.
And yes, that skill by Cristiano was brilliant - is it too late for Konami to put it in PES4 :D
Mike.
Mc Clean
26-08-2004, 21:02
It's a good draw but I don't think there is such a thing as an "easy draw" anymore, just look at those Swiss guys who beat Liverpool on Tuesday.
they are Austrian btw m8 - but i understand, all these weird teams now are getting so good . . . . .
they are Austrian btw m8 - but i understand, all these weird teams now are getting so good . . . . .
Yeah it was Graz wasn't it - dunno why I said Swiss! :o
Mike.
Mc Clean
26-08-2004, 21:30
i always get swiss and austria mixed up btw we are eposting this rubbish on the offical ManU thread!
Everton today turned down Manchester United's bid for Wayne Rooney and also rejected a new offer from Newcastle for the England striker.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=308309&cc=5739
Lost seraphim
26-08-2004, 23:51
no worries, Man Utd will bid again, no point in going through all the fuss and not at least put in a good effort to get him, espically if they already knew 20 million would not be enough
Foxhound
27-08-2004, 05:17
thank god we got the easiest group and the group before us, there's no RM
yay!
Tenacious D
28-08-2004, 14:40
Man United drew 1-1 today what do you think of the result lads and the last goal was handball
Foxhound
28-08-2004, 14:46
thanks Smith!! i thought ManU gonna lose so i went online and i went to livescore.. its 1-1!
we didnt do well in defence!
7RONALDO7
28-08-2004, 14:50
We didn't do well all over the pitch, well Smith/saha played well but there were no quaitly balls going in there direction, untill the end!!!
Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!5/6
Foxhound
28-08-2004, 14:52
i like Miller's cross.. one of his cross worked well! where Ronaldo almost scored
7RONALDO7
28-08-2004, 14:54
Yeh, I tought that Ronaldo had a quite game, he needs a rest for about a week or two, but United can't afford to leave him out of the team!!!
Scarface
28-08-2004, 15:00
thanks Smith!! i thought ManU gonna lose so i went online and i went to livescore.. its 1-1!
we didnt do well in defence!
i think a big thanks shud also go out 2 louis saha 4 his handball in the lead up 2 smiths 'goal' in the 94th min :rolleyes:
Tenacious D
28-08-2004, 15:02
i think a big thanks shud also go out 2 louis saha 4 his handball in the lead up 2 smiths 'goal' in the 94th min :rolleyes:
More like Friedel in goal if he did not save half of them it would have been 5 or 6 :cool:
Foxhound
28-08-2004, 15:11
Friedel is the man of the match.. he made a lot of good saves
Scarface
28-08-2004, 15:16
More like Friedel in goal if he did not save half of them it would have been 5 or 6 :cool:
friedel may have had a gud game but handballs were always fouls in my eyes :rolleyes: i just hope the next time (weneva it may b :D ) arsenal r losin we r also given 4 minutes 2 get bk on level terms or even win it. neway, id have been happy noin manure wud drop more points b4 the game so neva mind, expect these thins 2 happen.
Mc Clean
28-08-2004, 15:16
ManU never deserved that!!! how did the Referee miss that hand ball, he was a disgrace 2 day . . . . and scoring in the last minute somes it up! manU are JAMMY!
Foxhound
28-08-2004, 15:18
why did the ref didnt give a penalty after CR was pushed by a blackburn player?
man utd arnt jammy thats just football that man utd scored in 94 mins i knw its early but man utd should not lose points even though they could have lost today
Scarface
28-08-2004, 15:26
man utd arnt jammy thats just football that man utd scored in 94 mins i knw its early but man utd should not lose points even though they could have lost today
its true that a goal is a goal no mata how l8 in the game, and teams have 2 play rite till the final whistle but from all ive herd their shud neva have been 4 minutes added on, and a handball form an attacker shud equal a disallowed goal shud it not!? just like wen anelka handballed it l8 on and put the ball in the bk of the net which wud have made it 2-1 2 city against man u a year or so bk and that was disallowed.
its true that a goal is a goal no mata how l8 in the game, and teams have 2 play rite till the final whistle but from all ive herd their shud neva have been 4 minutes added on, and a handball form an attacker shud equal a disallowed goal shud it not!? just like wen anelka handballed it l8 on and put the ball in the bk of the net which wud have made it 2-1 2 city against man u a year or so bk and that was disallowed.
i see what you mean what goes round comes around i thought that man utd were putting on alot of pressure on blackburn in second half so they deserved at least a goal. But how can the referee not see a handball like that, i mean its worse then pro evos handball decisons. :D
Mc Clean
28-08-2004, 16:03
why did the ref didnt give a penalty after CR was pushed by a blackburn player?
like i said the Referee was a disgrace 2 day,
btw if you like German football Bayern Leverkuson are hammering Bayern Munich 4-0! :eek:
make that bayern leverkusen 4 bayern munich 1
7RONALDO7
28-08-2004, 16:32
United well diserved to atleast get a draw or a win today, not because of our proformance, because of our shots on goal etc!!
Lost seraphim
28-08-2004, 18:44
Arsenal are really destroying Norwich, it's going to be another tough year for Man Utd, even for the new Chelsea I think
Lord Shrimpeh
28-08-2004, 20:06
Arsenal are really destroying Norwich, it's going to be another tough year for Man Utd, even for the new Chelsea I think
Strange things can happen, remember their collapse 2 seasons ago? They could have injuries or anything. However at the mo it looks like another Arsenal championship.. if Chelsea play as they are now I can see them drawing or losing and Man U have a lot of catching up to do. Although I can see Man Utd being the msot likely to challenge Arsenal as this same team led Arsenal at Christmas last year, Chelsea we don't know enough about. Playing as they do at the mo they have no chance, whereas we have proof United can up a gear.
Man Utd match - there were like 100 million chances for united to score, funnily their goal came from a bad calll by the ref. Anyway, they did deserve a goal. And they do look terrible with that handicapped team - RVN, Rio, Heinze, Wes Braun, Keane. The combination of silvestre and Oshea was a disgrace. I think that old Fergie has lost it with his choices - he desperatly needs someone to replace keane. Kleberson is totally shite. I don't really think they can pull it this year.
Strange things can happen, remember their collapse 2 seasons ago? They could have injuries or anything. However at the mo it looks like another Arsenal championship.. if Chelsea play as they are now I can see them drawing or losing and Man U have a lot of catching up to do. Although I can see Man Utd being the msot likely to challenge Arsenal as this same team led Arsenal at Christmas last year, Chelsea we don't know enough about. Playing as they do at the mo they have no chance, whereas we have proof United can up a gear.
i didnt write this but i agree with you arsenal will go through a tough run like man u did they can get injuries though.
Got a question here :D
being honest how far do you think Man u will get in the Champions League this year?
My thoughts are that they will get to Quarters or possibly Semi's , i dont see them winning it even tho i want them to
*.::.NiKe.::.*
Foxhound
29-08-2004, 05:45
http://www.talksoccer.net/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1093613668&archive=&start_from=&ucat=1&
its just a rumour
It will happen, I'm sure. Fergie wants Rooney and I think the board will cough up the money Everton want, United ain't exactly short of a few quid!
As for the CL prospect, I would hope that by the start of it United have something resembling their strongest team out there. (With or without Rooney) Remember Europe is a clean start, so United are in with a good shout IMO.
BTW, it's reported that Anderlecht's Vincent Kompany is a transfer target for United again.
Mike.
ruud_v_n10
29-08-2004, 13:16
yep Manu are gonna pay 25m for him and if they agree on this rooney is uniteds.even though rooney is willing to join MU , they must hurry as the transfer window closes tuesday
Scarface
29-08-2004, 13:19
yep Manu are gonna pay 25m for him and if they agree on this rooney is uniteds.even though rooney is willing to join MU , they must hurry as the transfer window closes tuesday
speakin as an arsenal fan, ideally i dont want this 2 happen but i think his almost yours. newcastle can hardly offer the same as u, and once rooney wants 2 leave, not moyes or ne1 else can stop him. i think it will end up bein around £24m plus a player (possibly kleberson or bellion).
ruud_v_n10
29-08-2004, 13:30
ya thats true, even arsene wenger said that once rooney arrives at MU he will fill in the missing jigsaw, and once thats done they will be ready for competition.
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