PES 2009 suggestions [Archive]

Bunford

20-12-2007, 20:26

The things I would like are:

* Fix the online problems
* Fork out for the license to use real English Premiership teams/logos
* Have more club teams and leagues including English Championship, Serie B, Segunda Liga, Turkey, Germany, Portugal, Scotland etc
* Have full editing menus to edit appearances, teams, logos, kits, balls, boots etc
* Allow to use OF details online (not sure if this is possible - but if they get all licenses and do a good job on kits and logos, OF's may not necessarily be such a big issue)
* Include many more stadiums, or at least all international stadiums and all stadiums from major leagues such as EPL, Serie A, Primera etc and link them to correct teams so there's a a better home and away feeling
* Improve the audio element of the game as the menu music etc are rubbish - perhaps a move towards 'real' songs would be best
* Improve the passing controls so less passes are passed to random empty spaces or into a corner/throw in
* Make the free kick controls more accessible and less complex as it is near impossible to score free kicks without using 'certain' known methods - needs to be more random techniques instead of being able to use same techniques over and over
* To create an equal complete new version on all formats, e.g. shirt pull and diving etc on all formats not just specific formats

I may have a few more when I think about it more too.....

FrankGrimes

20-12-2007, 23:09

Guess I'll just buy a PS3 for PES 2009...where are you from in Eire Mr. Grimes...

Up north. And i do not refer to it as Norn Iron.

And yourself.....

ellis12

20-12-2007, 23:19

every premier stadium and licensed shirts for english premier

goalgerd

21-12-2007, 00:04

heres a few things id like in new pro evo

same number of teams as fifa or swos for that matter
more club teams from round the world
new master league with added management aspect
fatigue of players more realistic
more injuries in master league
new commentary from top to bottom
proper licenced music in game and on menus
scenario mode back
full international teams playable
new player moves like short corners( like 2player fk)
players to take corners with either right or left foot(like iss deleuxe on snes)
better free kicks

100 or more stadiums(licenced or unlicenced)
new weather conditions(fog,wind)
weather changes during matches(from rain to sleet to snow)
full pitch damage(divetts,mud)

new edit mode to cover all bases(like pes6 but better)
full player edit
full kit edit(5 kits per team,3player,2 keeper)
full ball edit
full boot edit
full ref edit
full logo badge edit(500 spaces)
online edit updates(new templates balls boots) like fifa
better online modes and leagues(like fifa)

this game is now on next gen consoles so there is no issue of not having the space to make all these changes happen,if swos on the amiga 10years ago could have all those teams

http://database.swos.info/start.html

surely pes can on the ps3 and xbox can match that,my fear is that we will be waiting another 3-4 years to see a full proper next gen version as most companies will only dripfeeed a few changes each year so we all keep coming back for more

this is the first year since iss deluxe that i have bought fifa in the same year as pes and il be honest in saying that for what a next game is meant to be fifa wins hands down(thats a sad thing to say) and pes2008 is the worst pes ive played

lukas9

21-12-2007, 13:43

Lugash

21-12-2007, 19:27

They can't licence the Premier League, FIFA have exclusive rights at the moment, I believe until 2010.

beetwee

21-12-2007, 20:01

How about normal defending (tackling) without cards for every time you tackle or players runnin' right through you.
Referees who do a good job.
Full stadiums
Master league which you can change.Like how many leagues and teams .
And don't look at Fifa gameplay because it sucks If I wanted that I would bought it and now pes sucks so please bring back the old gameplay.

lukas9

21-12-2007, 21:18

They can't licence the England League, FIFA have exclusive rights at the moment, I believe until 2010.

ah i see

FrankGrimes

22-12-2007, 00:14

Last year people suggested new commentators and diving among other things and got them but it doesnt seem to have had much of an effect.

I think that they should completely change the defending in the game. At top player it can be frustatingly difficult to defend when a team is on the break against you or even in normal build up play it is hard to defend. You cant make a tackle because you cant get close enough to the man and if you do try o get close the man will just run past you leaving you for dead.
The only way to tackle is to slide tackle and that has a 30% success rate. Even if you do a good slide tackle the opposition will gather the ball again quickly.

Rocky430

22-12-2007, 09:01

-They should make a youth academy for each club and where you have scouts to search for youth players which you have to train to become the new Kaká :)
-A newspaper
- And also each year you see which players are selected for international matches and you can see if they won or not and there should be world cup, african cup...
- More teams ( licences of course:P)
- And also that every ref and his assistents have a good reputation or bad, for example that the good referees and assistents hardly make onside and offside mistakes and the bad ones really make big mistakes like that they don't flag for offside in which the opponent can score and where the team can really protest.
- More heat in the game, like when Man Utd and Chelsea are playing each other or city rivals play each other there will be fears tackles and more cards and injuries.
- A level A to E of injury proneness, Michael Owen is always injured.
- This might not be necessary but they could make the amount of tape that a player uses different, Cristiano always but alot however Gerrard always puts one layer which at the end of the match has fallen of. So a small, medium and high tape level.
-A division2 for every league in ML so that teams that end last every can actually sort themselves out in division2.

These were my ideas :P

beetwee

22-12-2007, 09:08

FrankGrimes

22-12-2007, 15:11

I couldn't agree more the defending part is totally fucking up the game for me, I gave it a try for weeks now but it doesn't improve and it's frustrating me more everyday.
I'm already thinking of buying last years version.

Do buy it. At least PES 6 was fun and you can actually defend against the COM.

Rocky430

24-12-2007, 22:50

Another thing all the time when i give a cross there's nobody at the first post or second, in real life you see strikers all most killing themselves to be at the first post to try and score a goal or they run to the first post and take a defender with them to create a gap behind them for the other striker at the second post.

Bunford

26-12-2007, 19:36

Another thing that I would like to see on PES 2009 is an upgrade of the scoreboards etc.

I'd like it if it was more realistic, like if you had BBC scoreboards for Premier League, Sky Sports for FA Cup, Channel 5 for UEFA Cup, Canal+ for Serie A etc.

And also, if it had the team names on the BBC/Sky Sports/Channel 5/Canal+ etc scoreboards instead of the team emblems. I know this can be changed via OF's but would be better if it came as standard.

This would all give a more realistic feel to the game.

Noodex

26-12-2007, 21:20

How about normal defending (tackling) without cards for every time you tackle or players runnin' right through you.
Referees who do a good job.
Full stadiums
Master league which you can change.Like how many leagues and teams .

I agree with the tackling and reffing etc. I hate it how it is now.

che_don_john

26-12-2007, 23:37

Online play could be drasically improved by simply not making it so buggering difficult to tackle any player with a market value of over £10million!

luketu

27-12-2007, 13:12

i reckon a shirt pulling option because sometimes i chase a player 50 yards pressing x and it does nothing then my defence parts like the red sea and they score!

LarssonIsGhod

27-12-2007, 13:31

i have always wanted to make a stadium on a football game:D

I coudn't agree more, i think that would be a fantastic idea. I would love to make a brand new stadium for my team

PacMan

28-12-2007, 02:49

Many good ideas here. I'd like to add that set pieces suck in this game. I'd like to at least have different "set pieces" which I can choose by pressing a button before shooting. For example, have X player stay outside the box and then press a button to make him run to the 1st or 2nd post, or press another button to make the two attackers swap positions, etc. Just little things that can make the game a little less frustrating in this respect... I just hate when I get a corner kick and my tall striker is always going back to the edge of the area! Plus, you could actually PRACTICE set pieces this way!! Right now, player positioning is random.

I don't know whether to agree that the defensive system sucks. I think the problem lies in the fact that Ibrahimovic or any skillful player can run rings around your defense for 30 straight minutes. They've pushed it a bit too far this year. If they make the game less arcadey in that aspect, I think defending will improve.

ronin4

28-12-2007, 07:15

First up like everyone I want to see more teams.
In the ISS series it was possible to hit in a cross and have your strikers throw themselves head, or foot first, to try and connect, now im lucky to have someone in the box.
Similarly when i play a through ball and the goaly comes out to collect, i want my striker to be able to stick out a leg to try and just catch the ball before the keeper scoops it up.

You know the best nights in real footy are when results are coming in from other grounds that have an effect on your game. I would like a wee popup on the screen telling you how the Group stands if all games were to finish with present results. So if your in relegation game battle with say Derby. You are playing Liverpool, you know you need to win, but also Derby have got to loose. So while your playing it comes up that Derby are 1-0 down. So you know that if you can get the lead and holdon to it and Derby cant get back in their game, your safe. Just like they do in Live footy. I hope im explaining that clearly, Im just not sure what to call it.

I also think there needs to be more control over development, this thing about training during preseason is pityfull, I want to buy young players and train them into better players during the season, before giving them first team footy. Or drop Xabi Alonso until he can actually run faster than a geriatric!!
On that note I think its about time that when I have developed a young player and his points all improve, i want to be able to come out of Master League and go in to International games and find my club players in the National team with the Master League improvements applied to their skill level. I had this guy called Scharwz in 2006 at club level, he was Italian but he never appeared in the Italy team.
On the subject of Internationals, why the hell do i loose club players in ML because they get International callups, have not Konami noticed we now have International weeks?!?!
I would like to see valuations rise on back of International callups.

There is nothing more soul destroying than playing the ML all season, qualifying for Europe and then finding 2 teams in your group come from the same domestic league as you. I usually go Rangers/Celtic in a British ML, so maybe they are seeded in Europe as Scottish and thats why i get dumped in a group with Man U and Blackburn. If thats the case fair enough, but its getting really annoying, I played Liverpool twice in Europe, twice in league, twice in cup, twice in other cup all in one season, four of those games came one after the other. I humped them every game and saw no evidence of this AI that learns my style.

And to finish, what at the end of the day is really one long and winded moan :P ;

I read that the programmers arent happy with PES2008, but didnt have time to do what they wanted. Well thats fine how about next time you spend less time on the following;
Music- seriously who cares??? I switch it off as soon as i first install the game.
Commentary- Until its half decent, its nothing more than a novelty for about 2/3 days, then its off.
Regulating condition- whats the point? Its completely random and has no skill requirements at all.
Next Match- for me the only thing i want to know, is how i faired against them the last time i played and that is not on this page.
Fans pictures- seriously, do i care if the shop is selling a new product? Im not getting the money so why tell me? And whats thats stupid dog about??!
Player popularity with fans- irrelevant. And since when did the fans know anything! I pick the team not them ;)

On the subject of money, why is everything in Points? Why not money?
Why do i play top of the table clashes in front of half empty stadiums?
When Im negotiating with a player and first attempt is rebuked, how about a reason? Is it the transfer fee, the wages, the contract length?

Think that just about covers it for me. Thing is Ive played Konami soccer since it first came out as ISS and it was only National Teams, every new edition will add something new which is good, only for it to be forgotten the following year, sometimes its the one/two option sometimes its the ability to tackle without sliding in, sometimes it the strikers getting in and on the end of crosses.
I bet anything the one addition I like- the more succesful your team is the easier it gets to sign new players- will be missing next year.

Im going for a lie down now :)

Rocky430

28-12-2007, 08:37

The possibilty to get fired by your club if the results aren't good and then you will have to look for another club.

LarssonIsGhod

28-12-2007, 08:38

just like in Fifa, i like your thinking Rocky.

beetwee

28-12-2007, 08:39

Yeah, but then you could ask for a pes2008 and football manager meltdown.

Rocky430

28-12-2007, 18:35

just like in Fifa, i like your thinking Rocky.

thanks

Rocky141

28-12-2007, 22:23

i would like the player cam back !!! :)

the_beauty

02-01-2008, 00:35

* i think they need to completely overhaul the passing system.. i've lost track of the number of times the ball has went to the computer, or to the wrong man or an empty part of the grass - i not only want to see an improved system whereby the player you want to pass to is blindingly obvious but i also want to be able to choose how hard i want to hit my pass.. i really am tired of trying to pass to players an the computer intercepting because its so slow. Passing speed is not a real stat - a player passes the ball how hard he needs/wants to, you are not pre-determined how hard you can pass a ball, shot power should cover maximum pass power but a 10 yrd pass should not be affected by any of this.. basically i want full control over my passing.

*The AI. I personally think they've really got it wrong this year. Instead of a fair contest it seems Konami has resorted to the oldesttrick in the ook by uping all the AI teams players it controls stats. When Wiagn Athletic are knocking the ball around like arsenal you know there's a problem.

*Defending. I think the system they have right now isn't so bad, i like the idea of timing a tackle.. if they made the AI opposition more realistic (rather than a team of ronaldinho's) then it would be perfect. However i have noticed that my players regularily leave opposition strikers unmarked in the box when it is blindingly obvious who there gonna pass it to. My other big big big problem is the headign system. No matter what i do i cannot defend against the COMs headers. Its impossible. I am now on a 11 game run where-by the cimputer has scored a header from a corner in every one of these games.. andi am playing with hyypia and carragher at the back - hardly the worst defense pairing in the world. The heading system needs to be made fairer.. at the moment it just feels like the AI is cheating me rather than playing fair.

*Licesnes - i personally couldn't give a monkeys.. but these are a big draw for casual gamers. If Konami wants to see more they need more licenses, more teams, more real players etc etc etc personally i liked the days of Allejo playing up front for Brazil.

*Master League - they need to overaul this and somehow combine the League mode with it to make for a more realistic experience. They need to overhaul all of the club based game modes to be fair because there just not good enough. And drop World Tour and bring back Scenario mode from the ISS days.. i loved scenario mode.

*Better stadium atmospheres an fans.. there is no way that Old Trafford is going to be half packed for a United - Liverpool game. And i want to see fans drawn more detailed.. it looks so unrealistic on PES 2008 its just horrible.

*Fierce rivalries - as someone mentioned it would be great to have a blood an guts match with your earest rival, they need to look at home to make the games more personally engaging because at the moment playing Chelsea or Everton or United is exactly the same as playing Birmingham, Wigan or Sunderland (my team is Liverpool by the way).

*Finally i want Konami to take there time to make a good game.. if there not happy with it then just wait longer, it will be wirth the wait i'm sure. At the moment i think Konami has lost a lot of its diehard fans with PES 2008,its a shame because they have made the best football games for the last decade easily but have now managed to alienate their own fans with the poorest game of there entire series.. they can make a fantastic game, i hope they take the time do to so.

apart from all this criticism i'm relatively happy

FrankGrimes

02-01-2008, 02:55

On the xbox 360 its impossible not to score from corners. The AI defending is rubbish at times. And other times they are impossible to get past.

For the main part the defending by the AI is horrific and this is on top player. They score own goals for fun and I score 70% of my goals from headers. they cannot defend crosses!

keizy12

02-01-2008, 16:13

i agree i think konami should take the time they need to make the game one of a kind i know fifa and pro are in competition everytime a game is realeased but i have aways faniced pro but this year fifa has really taken a shine on me so i think no matter how long it take to tackle the fans needs :) definatley worth it :)

jmcorp

03-01-2008, 19:02

Pes 2009, seems so last gen, it needs to become current-gen(Xbox 360, Ps3, Pc), right now Pes 2008 even on the 360 plays and looks like a PS2 game, with a lick of paint, these are my pes 2009 suggestions:

-Bump up the graphics: the graphics are so last-gen, the player models are rubbish and doll like, all animate the exact same way, the cloth or what Konami wants us to believe is cloth(more like plastic) needs to be drasticaly improved, it should flow, and sway with great cloth deformation technology(kinda like Fifa's).

-get rid of the invisible box: Konami get rid of the invisible box that stops me intercepting throw-ins, its very unrealistic.

-add more player reactions: konami should add more player reactions, like when the ball goes out for throw-ins or when a player is flagged offside, its just cool.

-improve keeper A.I

-improve ball physics: right its not too bad, but can be improved upon, let the ball roll and bounce and respond in a more realistic way.

choong

04-01-2008, 20:49

either get rid of the crap excuse they have for 'next gen' online gaming, or actually deliver some form of lag free enviroment. i dont understand. how can near enough every other online game ive played has been fine, but pro, is absolutly shit???

another thing is sort out the offside rule, they never get it right.

player ttributes, barca are ridiculously overrated and strikers pretty much always make mincemeat out of defenders when racing.

Goalkeepers, they react so F'IN slow, and when they parry something, they take so long to get back up the rebound is almost certainly going in.

Player selection, Too many times i have coneced goals because the computer have selected me as a wing back when i want to mke a tackle with a centre back.

computer aid, God knows how many penalties the computer has conceded me with its stupid sliding tackles in the box.

Bring the shop back

bring back challenge training

Bring back Random selection

Bring back the old online interface/menues etc

Bring back the old edit mode

get some new fucking skills,Is it just me, or does every pro say '___ New Skills' and there always just different versions of the old ones, for example,you can now feint a shot without turning or do a one time pass with the side of your foot, those arent fucking skills, I personally can do at 20 skills more interesting and im a Centre back.

another thing GET OWEN OFF THE COVER

Damojag

05-01-2008, 22:55

Up north. And i do not refer to it as Norn Iron.

And yourself.....

Haha...my wife is from there...I tend to piss her off by saying that...or demanding her to say "How now brown cow"

I'm from Mayo myself

St.Zwailla

05-01-2008, 23:35

-GK`s to have long trousers ...

p.s fifa is still trash :)

xbox 2 :)

keizy12

07-01-2008, 14:47

i want to b able to make a stadium in a football game :D that is what makes your club unique :)

ads

07-01-2008, 14:52

Anything to stop the fanboys bitching...

Skrittak

07-01-2008, 15:17

- Slow the damn game down, the ball and run speed is appalling. I tend to take great pleasure in dictating the play and pace of the game, Premiership 90mph football is great to watch but I don't want to play it unless i want to rather than be forced to.

- Through balls, the direction finding is a bit bad. It seems to have changed now whereby your player will try and feed it automatically into the path of your runner. It seems pretty impossible to play the ball into the channels, especially lofted through balls - which tend to get cut out via defenders heading it away. In my experience diagonal lofted balls tend to be cut out more than straight ones and placed less intelligently, which is a bit wrong?

- Dribble ability needs to be toned down a bit, having some mug constantly skip past you with careless abandon is ridiculous.

- More stadia, what's the count for '08 - 6? Ridiculous, just sums up how rushed the game was.

- Graphics are frankly rubbish close up and the slowdown just shouldn't be happening especially for a game that doesn't even look that good.

- Serious investment in the network service

- Perhaps a link up with Sports Interactive to use some of their database (i'm not saying i want all the conference clubs in pro evo, just some depth and proper stats would be nice). For example Sheva, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo and the like are still superb players. Realistically they are fat, old and slow - although still with genuine class. Tone them down a little :|

- Take the time to actually play test the game properly.

- Slow the game down!!!!!

zeemeister

07-01-2008, 15:53

Bring back PES!!!

I started a league with Barca, I know they are the best in the game but beating Madrid 5-1 on top player difficulty is just ridiculous they managed 5 shots while I took 22.

It seems that I tend to pulverise the good opposition but only manage 1 goal wins against lower teams.

I think slowing the game down and making dribbling and ball control more difficult will make PES as challenging as it once was.

Sørenv

07-01-2008, 17:49

Hi guys. My first post - i have alot of stuff, so please bear with the length:-) and please comment!

In my oppinion Konami should focus on the following in the next release:

More opertunities for short passing during free kicks. (currently the player (still) doesnt even care how much you gauge the short pass)
Also, why add the "quick take" free kicks, when they are so rarely used... the player should be able to get the ball and take the free kick quickly, manually.

The Keeper should be quicker back on his feet after making a save.. In real football keepers often launch quick counter attacks in this manner. which brings me on to next subject; keeper throwing the ball. In the game the keeper always makes a slow lob with the ball when making a long throw. He should be able to make a harder throw and utilize the option to spin it, maybe even combining this with the "long throw" ability.

For online play, it would help if it was possible to set your location, so matches can be set up with people from your own country...

Also i was told that this time th choice of captain would have an impact, but i can not find any info on that anywhere in the game or manual.

But most important of all fix the master league:

Why can there only be 4 leagues? That is just not good enough! Furtheremore the league will (after some years) be infested with weird teams like Djursgaarden FC or Basel or something, even though it is "La Primera".

Regarding negotiation it has helped with the numerical indication of how much a player wants to join your team. But in order of a real negotiation to take place, it is required that you get an answer like: the player would like a higher (or maybe much higher) salery or the club would like a higher transfer fee. Otherwise its not a negotiation, but a guessing competetion. Sorry for my kinda of topic comment, but it leads me to my conclusion: improvement is still needed in the negotiation part of the game.

Other teams does not develop enough. it is my experience that the game stagnates when played 7-8 years+ into the future. A small remark, but a big problem.

How about geting each club some talent scouts or young players, instead of the current common poll that arrives each year in the winter break. Furthermore the computer teams almost never utilizes this poll, even though the players in it is better that the one on their teams... I believe this also adds to the previously mentioned stagnation of the game.

In general I think it would be nice to have alot more transfering going on?

Nice they have added the popularity-meter and different levels. but i got to super in 2 years, and so did all my friends.. it should be more difficult?

also get a real currency, instead of konami money.

Finally i think it would be a good idea to give the game the following twist or maybe just an option: When a master league game is started, the development curves of the players should be randomized. Kinda like the dungeons in diablo... In this way its not always the same players that keep dominating the game:-)
Maybe it should not be completely randomized, but inside some kind of margin with respect to the predetermined curve - what do you think?

Best regards Søren Vodsgaard

beetwee

08-01-2008, 08:12

Think you got all good points there.
I agree the most with you about the Master League, I don't understand why you can't create your own divisions(how much and how many teams).

FrankGrimes

08-01-2008, 19:39

Im getting a bit bored with the same classic teams since PES 2. The same 7 classic teams every year. I know these are the most historic footballing nations but how about some more classic teams and maybe a few classic club teams like Classic Man united, Liverpool, Celtic or Real madrid.

LarssonIsGhod

08-01-2008, 19:58

mattlarge

08-01-2008, 20:04

Licenses would be the tits but i dont know what chance Konami have ot getting these.
They desperately need the Premiership license, and hopefully then we can see some Championship teams.

The stadia, as impressive as they look, there needs to be plenty more of them.

Two-footed lunges. To unleash the anger ;)

Henry-Pires/Cruyff penalty. For a laugh.

Scenarios, for example, 'at half time England are 2-0 down to West Germany in the 1966 World Cup Final. Win the game and the cup for England!' etc etc...

Good rivalries, with better crowd/atmosphere, spectacles, and the occasional flare thrown on the pitch/crowd trouble. Makes it more realistic i guess...

Tom Oddie

09-01-2008, 13:37

They have to give us more choice on tactics. For example ill take a corner and my smallest player will be in the box whilst my big centre back is staying back, you should be able to change who stays where for set pieces and who goes on the post etc.

Tom Oddie

09-01-2008, 13:38

Crowds aswell the atmosphere is always shite, the grounds are always empty aswell even in big games whys that ?

LarssonIsGhod

09-01-2008, 13:50

Two-footed lunges. To unleash the anger ;)

That would so much controversy. Especially with the England Leagues current crack down on two footed lunges. And look at the reaction diving caused.

I remeber this is football had both diving and two footed challenges and they were great fun, but really didn't add much to the game

fick

09-01-2008, 14:50

dan90mufc

21-01-2008, 11:52

I think the pitches need to look more realistic also definately some more licenses i love pes but i do play fifa more often because of the the licenses

ritchie13

21-01-2008, 13:18

Be able to sign new players from the get go on master league

Rkid005uk

23-01-2008, 13:38

Change master league.

Have better statistics on player performance during your season.

Get some decent fuckin background, professional sport looking, like Sky SPorts or somit. Its 2008!!!! Konami are so out of touch with the footballing world. SO so Japanesse!

citx

23-01-2008, 15:24

getting booked for those stupid tackles.

The game was rushed to be completed : \

d.f.w

15-02-2008, 22:18

in heated games like man u v arsenal you should have the ability to do a deliberate foul. and maybe the option to push after the play has stoped.

The Eristic

16-02-2008, 09:03

Argumentum ad populum via much of what's already been posted.

ML needs more depth and variety, certainly. Real-time chemistry levels in in different areas should be viewable as you field different combos, instead of just the generic and overarching stats like "Teamwork". I also agree that negotiations need more, well, negotiation to them (counter offers, more specifics, etc).

The dreaded AI deification needs dealing with immediately. For instance, very few players should be able to make it through Liverpool's midfield and defense with the disgusting ease and regularity that such occurs (maybe if the defenders would actually mark players instead of standing around or even running away from their marks), and you can't seriously tell me that the CBs of Saudi Arabia and Austria can outrun and shutdown Cruiff, Van Basten, etc, of Classic Netherlands every single time the latter goes on the break. Frustrating.

That sort of incessant harassment by the AI is very unrealistic. Defenders don't always charge like hell as soon as the ball lands at their opponents' feet. Forwards don't always manage to blaze past everyone and dribble like Maradona or have sticky feet like Cruijff or bend it like Bergkamp. There's no real time to develop and implement real tactical play on either side. You must either charge or be charged. It's not too bad when playing in the EPL, because that's how the league plays much of the time. In Spain, Netherlands, Italy, and international play, however, it's really annoying.

scoles_1

23-02-2008, 12:25

I posted about what i wanted to see on this years game last year, and obviously none happened!! so i'll say again what i thinks needed.

It seems as though nobody has mentioned much about gameplay when there is so much to improve. i love editing the game but first and foremost gameplay and atmosphere of the game needs drastic improvement.

Firstly, why does L2 or left trigger do nothing? why not if ive got the ball with c.ronaldo can i not hold down L2 and press X producing a little flick instead of a standard pass, players like Ronaldinho Robinho Zlatan Ronnie Nani and others should be able to do special flicks or tricks with the L2 button and X or right stick for a combo. It doesnt need to be extreme and arcady like fifa but i want to replicate ronaldos tricks and step overs but can't. seeing as seabass sed in an interview he wants to recreate evrything he sees in a real game, i dnt understand y i cant.

Through balls need power bars i want to control where theyre going, tricks if timed perfectly should completely fool defenders and wheres a rabona cross. . .no1 shoots like it!!

Shooting when its raining should skid along the floor and keepers should find it more difficult in those conditions also the shirts should be soaked, like on drakes when he gets wet, the pitch should cut up like the tracks on motorstorm, players get muddy, water fly off the net when its hit with a powerful strike. this all imporves the atmosphere and realism of the game. certain pitches should become boggy with the rain, if i play wigan it becomes hard to dribble on the rain soaked soggy surface.

strong defenders need to be stronger, owen shouldnt be able to have any chance of taking on rio or terry his movment and passes to him shoul create his goals.

Dives have been implemented poorly, ronaldo should be targeted by some refs but others should be fooled like in real life. if its very crowded around the player who goes over the decision should be harder and sometime the ref should signal he think its a dive when its a foul.

Keepers obv need improbing but thats clear. players should show more emotion when hitting the post or being hit with a hard tackle. there should be hundreds of tackle, fould, shot header, keeper animations, its next gen, i shouldntsee the same one twice for 20-30 games. Animations this year are so poor. . .the heel trick and stepovers looks so slow, ronaldo is on the front cover y was he not mo captured? his free kcik tech, dribbling, step overs.

Lower teams like Birmigham should play very defensively against better teams and not play 4-4-3 like some do when im man u. . .that would never happen.

The computer should not be able to keep up with ronaldo when the defender is kevin kilbane, its ridiculous.

HUman error should come into it, evry 30 games my keeper should slice his kick to the striker or def play a poor backpass, ref, lino's make poor decisions. . . .the game just needs completely re-doing!!!

theres so much more to say but its becoming a rant!! Sort it outt konami!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gooner26

23-02-2008, 15:58

What are your suggestions to improve PES for next year or what new ideas do you have for the game?

I'll start off.

Fix the online service.
Change the master league completely.
More club teams, english championship and more european leagues including Germany, portugal, Turkey and Scotland.
more editing options.

Im sure there are plenty of others you can think of.

Yeah I'll agree with you there Frank. We need more leagues-Scottish, German, Portuguese etc. I personally don't think the current online service is too bad, apart from the few annoying probs I've had, but they're fixed now. I do prefer the PES6 online service though.
I would also enjoy a more comprehensible editing mode. But the thing I would like the most (listen up Konami) is BETTER CROWD GRAPHICS as at the moment they are pretty horrific.
And as FrankGrimes so rightly said, I bet you can think of plenty of others.

Gooner26

23-02-2008, 16:02

CMON YOU GOONERS! (even though you drew with Birmingham) :(

Gooner26

23-02-2008, 16:44

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

Bammers05

23-02-2008, 16:47

Triple-posting :no:

RangersFC

23-02-2008, 22:33

- The Scottish Premier Leauge .
... ALL TEAMS INCLUDED

- 2 v 2 Online

hallmark

04-04-2008, 03:45

Hopefully someone out there is listening.

I'm speaking for a handful of US players in this post. This game has always been great, but with a few tweaks, it can be nearly perfect.

We want:

- a Master League/Franchise mode for multiple players. I can't understand why this hasn't happened yet.
- more realistic stamina. Two games in one week should not be such a destructive thing to players at the top level.
- no more duplicate players. The programming is so very flawed. The players in the game should be subset into club teams (or free agency), and then flagged onto national squads. There is no need for dupes and you don't need to eat up more team spots with national squads.
- more licensed teams club teams. More leagues. Give us the big Euro leagues, the MLS, Brazil, Argnetina, Russia, Turkey...give it all to us!! Why not? I'd pay triple the current price for a game with all of those teams. And if that's not possible, give us lots more space to create these teams.
- no more regurgitated newcomers in Master League mode. It's great that random 17 year olds come into the league with varying skill levels. Good idea there. But it sucks that half of them use the names of the recently retired players. Better random name generator, please.
- free kicks to be tweaked. Dangerous free kicks hit the back of the net quite a bit more frequently in real life than they do in the game. Please make this slightly easier.
- a more realistic schedule. This is a lot to ask, but we are in the next generation now, no? Mimic the exact scheules of the leagues, the world cup, and the international tournaments. Make this part of the Master League. Surely this can't be impossible.
- throw ins to be more realistic. What is with the invisible barrier? Is there a distance rule that I'm unaware of?

thanks

nmedb

04-04-2008, 05:44

First off they have to add championship teams and second division teams from europe. They also need to add more stadiums. where in the hell is Old trafford, Stamford Bridge and Emirates ea can put 100 stadiums in NCAA football so there is no reason it cant be done.

The Eristic

04-04-2008, 08:55

- no more regurgitated newcomers in Master League mode. It's great that random 17 year olds come into the league with varying skill levels. Good idea there. But it sucks that half of them use the names of the recently retired players. Better random name generator, please.

I was under the assumption that those players with the names of retired players WERE said retired players reborn.

I'm in Georgia, btw. Probably the only person in the state who plays PES. :^/

Probably the only American Villa fan, too (well, excepting their owner, of course). ;^)

dicky_t

05-04-2008, 00:41

firstly i would like to see a NEW GAME NOT AN UPDATED PLAYER STATS ,i dont think the game engine on PES is that bad ,its intense and very addictive ,altho against the AI ,the computer players the game tends to be a bit lack luster

ive already listed some of these in moans on the PS3 section but ,a realistic crowd would be nice ,espicially sound files ,liverpool fans singing "you`ll never walk alone" would add atmosphere ,also a realistic player engine would also help ,i`m sick of playing against players who seem to be superhuman espicially when they sprint for 3 miles non stop also i would like to see the shooting take a backward step to older versions as its far too easy to score on this version ,sometimes i dont even aim and its in the back of the net

an improved ref ,one who firstly gets out of your way when your driving the ball out of defence instead of casually bumping you off the ball with no consequences

online ,they cant even get this right on a 1 player mode theres no way i`m asking for a multiple master league or anything else

why cant i have a 2 player master league ,theres no way id end up with all the best players in world at just my club

id like to hear john champion get annoyed at mark lawrenson and hear him choke him or vice versa

finally id like to see two simple words in the online phrases when a game is completed "well played"

it seems sportsmanship never reached the shores of japan

p.s. i wont be buying PES9 as it will be just be an update

Duggano7

05-04-2008, 11:23

improve goalkeepers. konami should release a patch with new boots on it that you get updates for. more scan stuff n scan from memory stick. edit shit length like tucked out just at the front, or just at the back or tottally out. same with sleeves you should be able change the lengh of the sleeves manually. edit boots, gloves should be able to have a drawing tool that you can draw straight on the shirts, shorts, sock, gloves, n bootsm, even back of shirts. indoor mode, n 5 a side mode mud on cloths, plus hair gets wet and so on, and different types of injurys, cuts n so on. thats it from me. now that would be a good pes.

SAMGRACE009

05-04-2008, 22:59

There are a lot of big things that need to happen that I am sure Konami are already working on. A small thing that I'd like to see included would be facial import for PS2.

seany93

05-04-2008, 23:15

konami are not gona bother with making anything special out of the ps2 version any more because they have more options with the next gen consoles. That is why PES 6 and PES 2008 are so similar on PS2

FrankGrimes

05-04-2008, 23:52

maybe they shouldnt bother with a ps2 version and concentrate more on the other versions.

skullverine

06-04-2008, 04:17

It would be cool if they'll use the sixaxis technology. Like, pushing the controller up&down to determine the power of the throw-in

wan109

06-04-2008, 13:43

Master League should be more enjoyable and the gameplay too.
Maybe add a new exciting feature like "Be The Ref" or "Be The Linesman" lol.

PESFan92

06-04-2008, 20:34

I've just come up with a couple idea's,

- Cage Style Football - something like 5 a side football in cages, would be so cool i think, if they done it right.

- More BIG stadiums, i think the thing that lacked in PES2008 this year was stadiums i was excited about the fact they would add a few extras, maybe even Wembely or Emirates..But i was so disapointed. I would like the more BIG stadiums in Europe to be added this year.

-Better Licenses, The teams that finish in the top 2 in the England League should be licensed IMHO. Or maybe even get the rights for maybe 4 or 6 licsensed teams, would be a huge step forward

- More Teams and League's. What happend to Bundesliga? i would like to this back in for 2009, Also the Scottish & Portuguese League's would be nice :)

- Stadium Create/Edit, I would love to this addition. The actual posibility you could create some stadiums, maybe even stadiums for teams in League 1 or 2 would be awesome. But not crappy, box stadiums they should give you options:
Base
Stands
AdBoards
Wall Design
Ect
Ect.

So you can create individual bits for the stadium.

-Boot Edit. Bring this back please(period).

On a side note:
People asking for Licensed English League, Balls, Stadiums, Will be in for a bit of a shock!:shocking:(Well Maybe Not:happy:) FIFA have exclusive rights of the Premier League till 2010, KONAMI have to BUY their licensed from clubs. and they are only allowed a maximum of 2 Licensed teams in the Premier League. But you never know, Maybe in 2010 or 2011 KONAMI might buy the Rights for the Premier League and FIFA will have Teams like Man Red, North London :D.

- Better Referre's, This needs to be improved massively, The game should flow, and not keep stopping for Free Kicks, every couple minutes.

- AI Free Kicks, I'm Sure this bugs most people. Every time they take a free kick they always seem to go in(no matter if you have a player on the line) or hit the bar. KONAMI need to work on that.

-AI Attacking. Every time they come forward they just seem to "Score when they want" Its really annoying.

Ok maybe not a few idea's but i needed to get it of my chest. I'm Of to revise for my GCSE's

ThierryHenry14

06-04-2008, 21:04

Better gameplay and better editing..
and all the other usual suspects...

wan109

07-04-2008, 08:03

I've just come up with a couple idea's,

- Cage Style Football - something like 5 a side football in cages, would be so cool i think, if they done it right.

- More BIG stadiums, i think the thing that lacked in PES2008 this year was stadiums i was excited about the fact they would add a few extras, maybe even Wembely or Emirates..But i was so disapointed. I would like the more BIG stadiums in Europe to be added this year.

-Better Licenses, The teams that finish in the top 2 in the England League should be licensed IMHO. Or maybe even get the rights for maybe 4 or 6 licsensed teams, would be a huge step forward

- More Teams and League's. What happend to Bundesliga? i would like to this back in for 2009, Also the Scottish & Portuguese League's would be nice :)

- Stadium Create/Edit, I would love to this addition. The actual posibility you could create some stadiums, maybe even stadiums for teams in League 1 or 2 would be awesome. But not crappy, box stadiums they should give you options:
Base
Stands
AdBoards
Wall Design
Ect
Ect.

So you can create individual bits for the stadium.

-Boot Edit. Bring this back please(period).

On a side note:
People asking for Licensed English League, Balls, Stadiums, Will be in for a bit of a shock!:shocking:(Well Maybe Not:happy:) FIFA have exclusive rights of the England League till 2010, KONAMI have to BUY their licensed from clubs. and they are only allowed a maximum of 2 Licensed teams in the England League. But you never know, Maybe in 2010 or 2011 KONAMI might buy the Rights for the England League and FIFA will have Teams like Man Red, North London :D.

- Better Referre's, This needs to be improved massively, The game should flow, and not keep stopping for Free Kicks, every couple minutes.

- AI Free Kicks, I'm Sure this bugs most people. Every time they take a free kick they always seem to go in(no matter if you have a player on the line) or hit the bar. KONAMI need to work on that.

-AI Attacking. Every time they come forward they just seem to "Score when they want" Its really annoying.

Ok maybe not a few idea's but i needed to get it of my chest. I'm Of to revise for my GCSE's

Nah, I prefer indoor football or futsal.

muzza798

08-04-2008, 01:37

1.At least top 4 teams of each big footballing europian country and as many others on top

2.Have an option file for the 360 - that really annoyed me

3.Shooting needs to be way more fun and exiting as i always seem to end end up being in the same senarios where the keeper pulls off the same save everytime and i never see any different wonder goals and they all seem to look the same.

4.Completely copy FIFAs way of doing the career mode with you making money from tv deals and season tickets and have board members who will sack you! That would make it interesting. Have coaches and scouting staff.

5.Stop making Man Utd so unrealistically better than everyone else. They made Wes Brown better than jamie carrager!

6.More boots from Nike,Addidas and others

7.Stop making any other games and put all your funding into this

8.Stop the online jitters and have 2v2

9.There is too big a difference between the ok and good players. Ok players are useless and can make no imprint into the match.

10.Bring back Pes shop!!!!!

11.Have real money

12.Crosses always are won by the defence and so are corners

13.They absolutley need the crowds to be way way more emphatic,louder and realistic.

14.Have a newspaper that reviews your games

15.All set pieces need to be re-thinked like throw-ins

16.Use more stadiums that are closer to the pitch.

17.GET SOME DECENT COMMETATORS! Jon champion is ok but does mark lorencen actually say anything and their script is so lap luster and dull. make it sound as if their having a conversation!

18.Make the physics better like when players bump into eachother or when their running.

19. Make the cut scenes better and more realistic like what would happen in a real game.

20. Have real rules like 3 match susspencions and 5 yellows = 1 match ban etc

21.The fatigue is way over the top as every match your whole teams gets completely drained.

AND FINALLY Give the fans real chants from each big club like "You'll never walk alone" etc to make the player feel like he needs to win for the fans.

haz32

13-04-2008, 23:28

Online ML
Proper editing again
Create stadiums
More leagues/teams (unlicensed or not, who cares)
Referee stats ( biased refs?)
Proper rivalries ( COM fouls more, defends tightly)
No cheating COM
Bigger ML, 4 divisions

strigoivii06

13-04-2008, 23:54

Compatibility between user regions or an universal region users.

scouse_god

14-04-2008, 14:23

They need to improve the online system, if they could do updates so transfers are updated online, this could be a patch sent out online when the transfer window ends!

Better free kicks, u cant pass short at all its to easy to get someone to stand in the way!

Better keepers, as its annoyin now when they cant even hold a simple shot, and they cant close down people properly

Amateur

14-04-2008, 17:55

I've just come up with a couple idea's,

- Cage Style Football - something like 5 a side football in cages, would be so cool i think, if they done it right.

- More BIG stadiums, i think the thing that lacked in PES2008 this year was stadiums i was excited about the fact they would add a few extras, maybe even Wembely or Emirates..But i was so disapointed. I would like the more BIG stadiums in Europe to be added this year.

-Better Licenses, The teams that finish in the top 2 in the England League should be licensed IMHO. Or maybe even get the rights for maybe 4 or 6 licsensed teams, would be a huge step forward

- More Teams and League's. What happend to Bundesliga? i would like to this back in for 2009, Also the Scottish & Portuguese League's would be nice :)

- Stadium Create/Edit, I would love to this addition. The actual posibility you could create some stadiums, maybe even stadiums for teams in League 1 or 2 would be awesome. But not crappy, box stadiums they should give you options:
Base
Stands
AdBoards
Wall Design
Ect
Ect.

So you can create individual bits for the stadium.

-Boot Edit. Bring this back please(period).

On a side note:
People asking for Licensed English League, Balls, Stadiums, Will be in for a bit of a shock!:shocking:(Well Maybe Not:happy:) FIFA have exclusive rights of the England League till 2010, KONAMI have to BUY their licensed from clubs. and they are only allowed a maximum of 2 Licensed teams in the England League. But you never know, Maybe in 2010 or 2011 KONAMI might buy the Rights for the England League and FIFA will have Teams like Man Red, North London :D.

- Better Referre's, This needs to be improved massively, The game should flow, and not keep stopping for Free Kicks, every couple minutes.

- AI Free Kicks, I'm Sure this bugs most people. Every time they take a free kick they always seem to go in(no matter if you have a player on the line) or hit the bar. KONAMI need to work on that.

-AI Attacking. Every time they come forward they just seem to "Score when they want" Its really annoying.

Ok maybe not a few idea's but i needed to get it of my chest. I'm Of to revise for my GCSE's

Well, those things you mentioned are cool.. but that won't make the game any better. It's all in the game play and stats system - Konami needs to replace it, Konami needs to improve the game play, and also replace the old stats and special skills system.

Unless Konami changes the things mentioned above - PES will feel more or less like the same game but with better graphics. Now, the old PES versions were quite good on the PS2, but this is the PS3 and PES should be much better on the PS3.

The PS3 can manage a much better "game play" and a much better, more specific, more complex "stats and special abilities system". The licenses, the indoor games, more leagues, more teams, etc, etc.. that won't make PES much better, those are just details, and details should come after the foundation.

Amateur

14-04-2008, 18:12

Well, those things you mentioned are cool.. but that won't make the game any better. It's all in the game play and stats system - Konami needs to replace it, Konami needs to improve the game play, and also replace the old stats and special skills system.

Unless Konami changes the things mentioned above - PES will feel more or less like the same game but with better graphics. Now, the old PES versions were quite good on the PS2, but this is the PS3 and PES should be much better on the PS3.

The PS3 can manage a much better "game play" and a much better, more specific, more complex "stats and special abilities system". The licenses, the indoor games, more leagues, more teams, etc, etc.. that won't make PES much better, those are just details, and details should come after the foundation.

By the way, I noticed that FIFA is also taking the lead on "Classic Players". Before we had FIFA with more licenses, and PES with the classic players feature. But now, FIFA haves both more licenses, and they have the Classic Players with their REAL FACES and with their REAL NAMES. Why is that?? Has FIFA also bought official licenses to have them classic players with real names and faces??

A PS3 Football game without the "Bundesliga"?? I hate to acknowledged it, but given the fact that both FIFA and PES are equally bad, with the slight difference that FIFA haves better classic players, more licenses, and more leagues - It seems, FIFA is taking the lead.

FrankGrimes

21-04-2008, 19:19

An cool addition would be a fileshare on xbox 360 where you could share your goals and other replays with your mates through a fileshare type service like that of Halo 3.
It would be good fun sending your mates videos of your best goals.

Baudinet87

28-04-2008, 02:54

First of all, I would like to say, I have loved Pes since PES 1 on the PS2, until PES2008 on xbox360.

-I hope on PES2009 that in the master league you spend money on players, rather than the points.

-I wish more stadiums are on it, maybe 4-5-6 of the best stadias from each of the major footballing countries, so from England you would have Wembley, Old Trafford, Emirates, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and St James Park. From Spain, Nou Camp, Bernabeau, Mestalla, Riazor etc.
And only once these stadiums are incorporated should random Japanese and south american stadiums be included, since Europe is the target market for PES.
A stadium editor or creator would be pretty cool.

-Also, something I noticed yesterday. When in the master league, I don't know about you guys, but I usually select my team based on the condition arrows (I dont actually know what they are called). And I had just signed Rafeal Sobis (who is awesome btw) and he had scored 10 goals in 5 games, and his condition arrow became blue, downward pointing. I don't know if Konami have any formulas to calculate this conditioning, but I think it would be cool if a person is currently on a high streak, their arrows would be yellow or red, and likewise vice versa if they have had a bad period, therefore making it harder to get out of a bad set of results because of the negative confidence throughout the team.

-Also player ratings from games should be improved. I was playing a game last week in which I made a sub around the 80 minute mark, and he had one touch in which he scored, because of this goal, he had the highest rating on my team... Totally unrealistic.

Akshay

28-04-2008, 07:32

IT SHOULD THE GAME PLAY OF PES 5 AND PES 4 PLUS ALL THE REAL NAMES ETC.....
AND
it SHOULD HAVE A VERY GOOD COMMENTARY

Original?

28-04-2008, 22:24

One aspect I feel they've never capitalised on is the Classic players/teams, I feel this area should be expanded dramatically. I'd like to see 'real' classic sides, like England 66, Holland 74, Italy 82 and classic club sides. Then throw in a scenario mode, with classic challenges.

ade279

29-04-2008, 03:47

i have a long list of things to say which i think are really worth konami listening to and im sure everyone would agree!

personally the part of the game i play the most is the master league and i have a few questions:

WHY WAS THE ABILITY TO SAVE A MASER LEAGUE TEAM WITH IMPROVED & DEVELOPED PLAYER STATS TO USE AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE REMOVED???? i used to build up a good team and play the mater league endlessly to try and improve the worlds youngsters in anticipation of playing my friends teams at some point! now there is no real point to player development in the ml as you cant use the improved team online or against friends so u just improve them to keep playing in the same league over and over! you should be able to do both!

the training schedules like free kicks and dribbling should be brought back whilst still having the option to train players like you can on pes2008 but perhaps the pes2008 method would have less of an effect on improvements.

the leagues should be harder and other teams should have the ability to improve their players as much as you can so that the playing field never becmes unfair when your yougsters become world beaters. also the computer should buy young players and be able to scout good youth for the future not just buying the kaka's and C.ronaldos of this world.

The caption mode is a smart idea but instead of still pictures saying fans go crazy over new product there should be cut scenes showing the tour bus parade or new signings at a press conference being pictured in their new shirts or award ceremonies for MVP or golden boot, all not just for your players but others in your league!

i regret to say this but like "fifa" yuk can believe that came out my mouth, the game should have overall a more inclusive manager mode which allows for board interactions, sackings, players should play in international touneys in the summer and in international weeks rather than single players going missing at random times in the season!more teams in the champs league, you reach semis too quickly! players should leave clubs on frees more often or bids tooo high should be harder to turn down! players should be offerd to you for certain prices and be on transfer list not just released!

Please bring back ratings and player reports after the game like passes made and stuff. i took pleasure in seein that my midfield got 25 passes or more each and made several runs during the game and seeing what area they covered! along with this more in depth anlysis of game like action zones and stuff would make the game wayy more realistic!

commentary is a no brainer should be better than fifa's!
kit selector should be availiable before ml games its just common sense!
music should be able to be selected from personal playists saved on ps3 or xbox! more celebration scenes not just the same ones everytime!

bring back pes shop and new players to buy from round the world!
show evidence in game where achievements are completed!
bring back mode that remembers all head to heads with all your friends cant remember what it was called but we neva had arguments over whos won the most games!

Player slips when wet, and track marks from slides.
More recent celebrations not just 10 new ones and more dramatic when last min goals are scored not just jump the adboards and do a lacklusture punch, stuff like removed shirts and bookings, running and huggin the manager (which their appearances shuld adjustable) .
More freekick techniques and also varied corner kick tecniques not just beckhams and then everyone elses!

more detailed edit mode: ability to assign preset faces to others with game created faces, tucked in or out option brought back and they should b affected by shirtpulls in game, short sleeves rolled up sleeves! bboot boot edits and all ps2 editing facilities moved to next gen! i dont see why patchmakers can make editing exciting and konami cannot!

i love this franchise soo much and it hurts how rubbish this edition is, i could go on for 8 years but im hopin id have less to moan about by then!

Dom_1892

01-05-2008, 17:31

Hello people, this is my first post but I have quite a few Ideas I would like to share with you.

First and foremost, please dont give the game a complete overhaul. It is fine the way it is. The only changes it needs each version is a few tweaks.

These should include:

Indirect-Free kicks: These should be given Inside the box for back-passes etc. I would love the chance just to get a player like Van Bommel to smash one in the top corner.

More skills: The new ones are ok, but It would be better If you had a little bit freedom. For instance, if you get the ball with a player like Ronaldo or Ronaldinho, You should be able to use the left and right triggers to flick up and start juggling the ball.

Dirty Tactics: As someone earlier stated, It would be great If you could use two footed lunges on players. Aslo, If you could use your elbow or even nut a player who has just fouled you. This would make the game more realistic if tempers flared.

Shooting variety: I think it would be great if you had more options when shooting. You should be able to choose whether to drive, place or swerve the ball and put it exactly wher you want it.

Better keepers: Greats like Cssillas and Buffon should never spill the ball. Only when you are playing against teams like Andorra and San Marino should this happen.

Also, There should be a lot more licenses. They should strip FIFA off them as it is a poor game. Imagine PES with the licence Fifa has ;).

ticman67

05-05-2008, 21:23

I love online play and was gutted to find last years ps2 better than 08 on the PS3.
I cant understand why you dont have online tournaments like on last years ps2 and my main gripe is why you cannot pre edit your online inplay comments.I used to love "Gerrarrrrrrd,you beauty" coming onscreen whenever i played online.
Also the ball hitting the crossbar and giving a goal?whats that all about??

bakes121

07-05-2008, 03:03

fish-guts

07-05-2008, 08:13

I think the improvement should be:
- Realistic Transfer in ML
- Complete Statistic in League (Goal, Assist, MoM, Penalty, Most Cards, etc)
- Kit Selection (it's disappear on PES 2008)
- Full Licensing (hard, but "imppossible is nothing")
- Custom Team (Dream Team) in Friendly Match (like FIFA 97 did)
- Player Career Mode (adopt "New Star Soccer", or near-like FIFA 2008)

FrankGrimes

07-05-2008, 21:08

all sounds good but have'nt heard anything about 2009 coming out in the near future

there will be a 2009 dont worry. konami wont miss their chance to milk the fans who loved the old classics and will always buy PES no matter what.

requiem7

07-05-2008, 21:21

there will be a 2009 dont worry. konami wont miss their chance to milk the fans who loved the old classics and will always buy PES no matter what.

not sure if people will rush to buy the new game unless it has been improved. I know a few diehards including myself who think seriously about buying the new version.
the online part of it needs drastic work to make it playable.

tomogol

07-05-2008, 21:52

At number 1: full licensed Premiership
2:full licensed Bundesliga
3:if possible more official international kits

The Eristic

08-05-2008, 03:47

I was thinking, can't free agents be signed at any time? Why, then, must we wait till a window in ML to sign newcomers and "unbelonging" players? I know they wouldn't be eligible to play until the next window, but why be forced to wait around when somebody you want or need has sprouted up?

On that note, it seems that teams like Man U and Barca virtually always have negotiations going on with promising newcomers on the first day of negotiations in ML. How does that work? o_O

alabama619

08-05-2008, 07:52

I never play online because I cant be bothered to play against uber-l33t players who play this game non-stop, so the online aspect doesnt bother me.

I think PES2008 is a very good game, the best football game around, but here are some improvments to make for 2009:

>> Better free kick system
>> More editing options (Sleeve length etc)
>> More personalised players, so the players act more like they do in real life
>> Better commentary. There are only about 7 sounds which the commentator just repeats. The commentators are the ones who bring the game to life, changing thier tone of voice and volume when something good happens. At the moment, Henry could recieve the ball, is 1-on-1 with the keeper in the 90th minute of the world cup final, if he scores it will be the winner, and the commentator just says "Henry" as if he has recieved the ball anywhere else.
>> Stats which make a bigger difference. Some players such as Walcott are twice as fast as any other player, yet setting his speed to 99 doesnt make him fast enough.
>> Better control system for keyboards. Currently the controls are too complex and its hard to do alot of things, such as skill moves on a keyboard

michaelo

08-05-2008, 12:34

Fix the lag problem, 2 on 2 lan. Make the players stop like they are on baywatch. make it more realistic and stop scoring dodgy "cutbacks" so damm easy!

FrankGrimes

10-05-2008, 22:24

not sure if people will rush to buy the new game unless it has been improved. I know a few diehards including myself who think seriously about buying the new version.
the online part of it needs drastic work to make it playable.

I'd probly still buy the new PES if it was a cross between nintendogs and Halo 3 and came out for the Dreamcast.

You cant put some guys off PES no matter what.

michaelo

11-05-2008, 17:37

for the first time since ISS came out on the PS1 i will be more cautious! The last two versions have been awful!

muzza798

12-05-2008, 03:57

VITAL IMPROVEMENTS

1-MASTER LEAGUE - Copy fifa's franchise mode with bored room/player meetings,REAL MONEY!, real tournament scheduals and rounds,you can be sacked, newspaper reviews about your performances, make the competition better in the league, have it so other teams sign loads of players..i could go on

2-GAMEPLAY - where do i start. refs should throw in some "bad decions" and the comentators could show the replay and whether it was wrong which would add some spice to the "do or die" matches. imagine holding onto a 1-0 lead but the other team scores a borderline offside goal and its disaloud even though it was jus about ok. i think it would make it realistic.

the players need to run more loosly and ragid and players shouldbe able to bump into players. i see i like im running down the wing i clatter into a player we both sloth around like "whats just happend?" and then i carry on running after the loose ball. ramdom stuff like that would be good.

cut scenes should be alot lot better. i played the fifa 08 demo recently and thought pro evo was about 10 years behind in this area. i wouldnt care if replays went on for too long like my idea about dodgy decisions. it would be good to look back on it cos like you could see the player shouting about how it was fine jus as the ref blows the whistle an then it could go to the overview. and players should argue and confront eachother alot more. the should be a stat like "temper" and if they get taken out by a yellow card or higher foul, then you could have the option of them hitting out like B button for "push and argue" or "fully confront" where anything could happen. coupled with "dodgy decisions it could really get realistic out there. also there should be better introductions to te stadiums and the comentators should give full on previews to the teams and stats. would massivly help.

3-FANS - there needs to be a clear differenciating noise from the fans as it seems to be 1 long roar throughout games whereas it should be more refined and noiser when you are near the box and the crowed should all stand up and move diferently and then pretinely cheer and celebrate when theres a goal. also crowed songs for every team. every team has 1 so why not put them in. 90th minute champions league final and liverpool fans sing walk alone, would be amazing. so also when ur passing it should be quieter and individual voices should be heard now and again. they should really concentrate on improveing the fans in all areas as it would mean more to win. hands on hips aswell. im just watching sky sports news and can spot loads of things that couls be implemented.

4-COMMENTATORS - worst part about pro evo. there are plenty of sky sports commentators that are well known and dont have an EA contract so get one of them in. honestly play ea's NBA 08. the comentators talk about everything from all the players to the fans and teams and it makes it feel so much more real life. u could be playing and the guy could say about how many goals this season gerrard has and what his average is and how well they rate him and actually remember thins he did in the match like a 50 yard pass.

5-PHYSICS- sit down with a not pad and watch a premiership match. there are so many things players do. from scracthing their noses,roughling their hair, giving eachother high fives from a good clearing header. u see what im getting at. these things would make it feel like a living match and would make the players come alive. also having things like horendessly bad shirt pullings would be cool and things like bumping into players and not instantly loosing the ball would make it feel like a real "anything could happen" game. slipping up on the pitch would be annoying but deep down would feel good cos you know it makes it realistic and random. ripped shirts leading to cut scenes of them changing it. alot more touching of players should be there. picture a corner coming. there should be jossling on a massive scale like tugging and bumping.

6-SHOOTING-quick and simple. there should be alot more shot types and expand on fifa's ball physics they have where ball spin etc plays a part. goalkeepers. i dont mind te fact they dont catch everything cos it would be impossible looking at he ones they do parry but when they do parry and give it away there should be alot more physics for it like the should be many different ways of them pushing the bal away like bouncing of al parts of the body to random areas and a variety of saves and i want dives of the centry stretching the whole body to be met with aplause from the fans and an emphatic cry from the comentators not 1 of the 4 different save types they have met with a mild change in the roar system and no coment atall from jon champion.

7-PES SHOP AND MEMORIAL MATCH - where the flying £uck did they go! im sorry but i aint gonna sit there for 50 hours doing the world cup with every national team to get all the classic plays, no way. u must bring that back cos i liked saving my money and buying what i wanted. u lot plz aggree with me on that. and memorial match! pes 6 was my fav game of all time because of it. i played my master league up till 2033 becaue of it. me and 1 of my friend used to always play it and it was fun buying players to play him with. aguero being my favourite.

8-STATS-with the absence of the classic players due to no shop the stats system fell apart. classic plays = players who had red 90s all the way down and i could pick em up for next to nothing if the were going on the free. whereas on 2008 i had to shell out 60k just to get rooney who was fully developed and was hovering around the low - mid 90s. man utd are heavily overated and simple comparisons like they say giggs is faster than ronaldo. wtf are they on? and jamie carra is crap and thats just not true and i could go on and on about how they dont know whhat their doing when it comes to stats. and i wanted my players from pes 6 back as i fell inlove with them all. by far my fav game of all time up there with all the gta's, cod 4 and gun

8-ONLINE-tut tut tut. i know there budjet is pretty thin and it was mostly spent on developing gameplay but wtf. no tournaments, no 2v2 or higher and even with a good conection it was glitchy. thee most glitchyest game ever. 2v2 tournament with prizes would be good if you could set them up.

9-GENERAL STUFF- crappy players should have a playable level of quality, even the pes united players just to make it more playable and good players should be even better than what they are now so long as the crapper ones actually can run,pass and shoot. master league overhaul. player happyness. realistic transfer window activity. scores from other games at the bootom of your screen as you play. litter on the pitch. cut the crap out of the team tactics and redo it by looking at football manager games.

change the layout of everything in the master league as its the same every year

fifa and pes join forces and have the best of both worlds

dan80

22-05-2008, 19:34

I've just come up with a couple idea's,

- Cage Style Football - something like 5 a side football in cages, would be so cool i think, if they done it right.

- More BIG stadiums, i think the thing that lacked in PES2008 this year was stadiums i was excited about the fact they would add a few extras, maybe even Wembely or Emirates..But i was so disapointed. I would like the more BIG stadiums in Europe to be added this year.

-Better Licenses, The teams that finish in the top 2 in the England League should be licensed IMHO. Or maybe even get the rights for maybe 4 or 6 licsensed teams, would be a huge step forward

- More Teams and League's. What happend to Bundesliga? i would like to this back in for 2009, Also the Scottish & Portuguese League's would be nice :)

- Stadium Create/Edit, I would love to this addition. The actual posibility you could create some stadiums, maybe even stadiums for teams in League 1 or 2 would be awesome. But not crappy, box stadiums they should give you options:
Base
Stands
AdBoards
Wall Design
Ect
Ect.

So you can create individual bits for the stadium.

-Boot Edit. Bring this back please(period).

On a side note:
People asking for Licensed English League, Balls, Stadiums, Will be in for a bit of a shock!:shocking:(Well Maybe Not:happy:) FIFA have exclusive rights of the England League till 2010, KONAMI have to BUY their licensed from clubs. and they are only allowed a maximum of 2 Licensed teams in the England League. But you never know, Maybe in 2010 or 2011 KONAMI might buy the Rights for the England League and FIFA will have Teams like Man Red, North London :D.

- Better Referre's, This needs to be improved massively, The game should flow, and not keep stopping for Free Kicks, every couple minutes.

- AI Free Kicks, I'm Sure this bugs most people. Every time they take a free kick they always seem to go in(no matter if you have a player on the line) or hit the bar. KONAMI need to work on that.

-AI Attacking. Every time they come forward they just seem to "Score when they want" Its really annoying.

Ok maybe not a few idea's but i needed to get it of my chest. I'm Of to revise for my GCSE's

i agree with you on the freekicks it seems that any player always scores normally 9/10 times

d.f.w

22-05-2008, 21:54

when ever i play The big games in my ML like Arsenal v Chelsea, Arsenal v Man u, Arsenal v Spurs Te atmosphere is the same as Arsenal v Derby. It would be great to have more pushing an option for 2 types of slide tackles . 1 which that has the intention of getting just the ball which has a low risk factor or 2 a crunching slide tackle that has a higher risk factor. also if there was some sort of meter that went up in those games with the more hard tackle' that go in. and if it reaches a curtain point u get a push around.

A similar idea is to have an agression meter for each player the higher it gets the more likely it is for that player to do something stupid of the ball like a push or something.

I feel all of this would make the bigger games much more fun and intense and most of all true to life.

kong_pascoal

23-05-2008, 03:30

teams of america del sur....

how ,Boca Juniors,São Paulo, Palmeiras,Colo-colo,e etc

tomogol

23-05-2008, 11:17

Diving must be more useful

Jess C

02-06-2008, 09:47

Restructuring the Champions League (or King's Cup because I always change the name) is also a must if Konami want to revitalize the Master League.

#1 - I give you a scenario of eight random league and cup champions from four different leagues...

Manchester United - Arsenal
Juventus - AC Milan
Barcelona - Real Madrid
Bayern Munich - Werder Bremen

The idea of championship qualification (be they league or cup) fulfils the criteria of only competition winners qualifying for a Champions League place, maintaining its prestige while also adding importance to the domestic cup competitions, difficulty in qualification (limited spaces) and participation (teams like Ream Madrid and AC Milan trying to squeeze you out of their elite group). I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I'm sick of facing teams like Aston Villa and Middlesborough in a competition that's supposed to be 'reward' for the previous season's hard grafting. This format ensures a healthy rotation of top quality teams entering the competition to prevent the experience from going stale (e.g. Man United/Juventus/Barcelona/Bayern may win the League/Cup one season, Chelsea/Inter Milan/Valencia/Stuttgart the next) while the elimination of a qualification round means there's zero risk of an uneven ratio of teams-per-league. There’s no reason for domestic rivals to clash in the group stage.

#2 -Imagine them split into two groups of four (two league and cup champions per group) with two home and away legs in each tie...

Group A
Manchester United
AC Milan
Barcelona
Werder Bremen

Group B
Arsenal
Juventus
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich

Two groups provide an even distribution of quality throughout the competition. The quality of each side should break the predictability of knowing who’ll qualify from every group. The prospect of two home and away legs between each side (twelve matches for a single side - the same number any team plays en route to the semi-finals of the UEFA Champions League) emphasises the idea of a League of Champions, giving a fair and thorough assessment of how your team ranks when matched with the best the Master League has to offer as well as prolonging the competition over the course of a season. Home & Away form MUST be a factor in deciding a tied group, it's the European way...

#3 King's Cup Final

Group A winner v Group B winner

Nothing really needs explaining here, the two group winners meet in a titanic clash of epic proportions, however, such an occasion needs the appropriate stadia. My suggestion would be allowing us to customize a list of up to ten stadia in the game with 50'000 capacity or higher (Emirates, Allianz Arena, Dragao, Jose Avalade, etc...), or whatever your choice, to be set out at random to host finals for the next ten seasons. Having a fixed destination for every final would be far more realistic than a random, ugly, under-capacity stadium which fails to do the occasion justice.

#4 The Master’s Cup (or European Championship - yes, I do steal these names) - The format would mimic the current Champions League format, eight groups of four teams, home and away leg with the top two qualifying to the knock out round. Qualification would require a top five finish (or lower depending on Champions League qualification). For Example...

1st Manchester United - KC (League Champions)
2nd Chelsea - EC
3rd Arsenal - KC (Cup Champions)
4th Liverpool - EC
5th Everton - EC
6th Tottenham - EC

1st Juventus - KC (League Champions)
2nd AC Milan - KC (Cup Champions)
3rd Inter Milan - EC
4th Roma - EC
5th Fiorentina - EC
6th Udinese - EC

1st Barcelona - KC (League Champions)
2nd Valencia - EC
3rd Villareal - EC
4th Real Madrid - KC (Cup Champions)
5th Atletico Madrid - EC
6th Sevilla - EC

1st Bayern Munich - KC (League Champions)
2nd Borussia Dortmund - EC
3rd Bayer Leverkusen - EC
4th Hamburg - EC
5th Stuttgart - EC
6th Werder Bremen - KC (Cup Champions)

As you may or may not have guessed by this post, I hold a complete abhoration for the pointless qualification stage we’ve been subjected to on previous Master Leagues. I mean honestly, what’s the point a there’s only four league’s that exist? So, in my opinion, seeding should be based on League position, which would be...

Chelsea, Inter Milan, Valencia, Borussia Dortmund

Liverpool, Roma, Villareal, Bayer Leverkusen

Everton, Fiorentina, Atletico Madrid, Hamburg

Tottenham, Udinese, Sevilla, Stuttgart

This would give the player incentive to focus on the league even if the title race has already been decided, with a higher league position resulting in an easier path through the group stage as well as financial rewards varying depending on final league position. Once again no qualification stage means no risk of upsetting the teams-per-league ratio, thus the resulting draw wouldn’t feature two teams from the same League. After that the rest pretty much writes itself...

Group A
Chelsea
Villareal
Hamburg
Udinese

Group B
Valencia
Liverpool
Fiorentina
Stuttgart

Group C
Borussia Dortmund
Roma
Everton
Sevilla

Group D
Inter Milan
Bayer Leverkusen
Atletico Madrid
Tottenham

#5 Closing notes - I understand that the whole point of this game is realism, but in a mode as unique as the Master League realism is a relative term. The specialness has gone from the mode’s premier competitions and after five years a change must be made to refresh it. Oh, and for the love of GOD there MUST be a European Super Cup.

aj1981

06-06-2008, 11:42

I would love to see a world club championship in this.

Asia: AFC – Champions League
Africa: CAF – Champions League
North America: CONCACAF – Champions League
South America: CONMEBOL – Copa Libertadores
Oceania: OFC – Champions League

these teams can have like 2-4 of best team of their continents being computer generated in a mini cup of their competition to complete in the world championship final where the Europe: UEFA – Champions League - is done as normal by you playing, if you are not the Uefa champion this will just be be COM generated as per normal.

Also good thing about this is the same meaning can be applies to each different region in the country - Asia can be play as normal, where the rest of the continents is COM generated, same for North America(USA).

Chelseaboy19

15-06-2008, 08:49

I've just come up with a couple idea's,
-Boot Edit. Bring this back please(period). if your talking about the original boot editing style from pes 2, then i would say say yes. in pes2 you could change the colour and design of boots for individual player's, without having to overwrite default boot choices as was the case in pes6 and pes2008.

but if you talking about the boot editing style from pes 6\2008, i would have to say no because when you wanted to change a player's boot type, you couldn't do that individually like in pes2, so you had to overwrite a boot type, which meant that every other player who also uses the same boot type would have also their boots changed.

- Better Referre's, This needs to be improved massively, The game should flow, and not keep stopping for Free Kicks, every couple minutes.

ugh this biggest reason why i can't stand pes5.

weleh

19-06-2008, 01:18

hopefully it might playable on LAN...:-)

Rocky430

19-06-2008, 13:15

1) Ability to get fired so that you need to look for new team if the results are bad
2) More agression on the pitch if rivals play, more cards, injuries, heavier tackles
3) More damage to the pitch its rainy.
4) Real Money
5) Youth Academy
6) More enthousiasm from the crowd
7) If a team if battling against relegation, that it will play much better and suprise big teams.
8) More sompetitions, like belgian league and pourtugese league with the basic leagues aswel so that the Champions league can be fuller.
9) A 2nd division for each league.
10) More accesories for players, for example CR always puts tape that comes out and gerrard just puts one layer.

ThierryHenry14

19-06-2008, 14:46

I don't think PES will ever get the full Premiership licence..

doyin

19-06-2008, 16:05

i would like to see pro evo not copy anybodies face twice or thrice

Rocky430

21-06-2008, 08:23

i Would Like To See Pro Evo Not Copy Anybodies Face Twice Or Thrice

Thrice !!!!!

Fridrihsberg

23-06-2008, 12:52

Like in most games the music is perennially bad. However I have seen a feature in a few games recently where you van upload your own tracks into it so you don't have to listen to rubbish or mute it. I rckon this could work very well on Pro Evo especially since it might drown out the awful commentating. "what a ball in" seconds later "What a terrible ball in".

goalgerd

23-06-2008, 18:56

you are all wasting your time lads,im still playing sensible soccer and it wipes the floor with pes team wise,konami cant be arsed anymore making a decent game

Kiruk

23-06-2008, 22:20

Unlike most people here I think the ref is fine. He's actually right a lot of the time, we've just been spoiled in previous fifa/pes games where we could do whatever we liked.

PESFan92

24-06-2008, 01:34

if your talking about the original boot editing style from pes 2, then i would say say yes. in pes2 you could change the colour and design of boots for individual player's, without having to overwrite default boot choices as was the case in pes6 and pes2008.

but if you talking about the boot editing style from pes 6\2008, i would have to say no because when you wanted to change a player's boot type, you couldn't do that individually like in pes2, so you had to overwrite a boot type, which meant that every other player who also uses the same boot type would have also their boots changed.

On PES6, you can change the boot style & colour for every boot, i don't remember how but on most Option Files i download all the boots slots were different with different colours for each, and every player was assigned with the right boot.

Unlike most people here I think the ref is fine. He's actually right a lot of the time, we've just been spoiled in previous fifa/pes games where we could do whatever we liked.

Im gonna have to dis-agree with you im afriad. Everytime i play PES2008, you hold A(X360) or X(PS3) and the player pressures the one in possession, 7/10 this will lead to a foul and in some cases a yellow card. Same with sliding tackles, you put in a great sliding and win the ball and the referee red cards you.

ChewittWFC

24-06-2008, 02:34

I agree with most of what's been said and i'll steer clear of repeating everyone else with things such as online play, licences etc etc. Here's a few suggestions of my own that don't seem to have come up much so far.

- Online phrases, either give them a total revamp or get rid of them. Simply ghastly phrases such as "it went well" are laughable to be honest. Surely it can't be that difficult to create our own messages to use !?!?

- Get rid of the farking forcefield which seems to stop you going in front of the opposition at throw-ins and goal-kicks, it's utterly ridiculous. It's all to easy for a side to casually pass the ball out from the back after a short goal-kick.

- The ability to send your defenders up for corners was very well recieved on PES 2008 and it'd be good to see this feature developed even more by allowing you to say who you want to stay back for your attacking set-piece and who you want to pull back (ie. Your big CF) when defending a set-piece.

- How about varying the type of injury a player comes off with ? I'm tired of subbing an injured player and having to watch him clutch his hamstring in agony EVERYTIME.

- It would be nice to be able to challenge the GK in the air and have a hope in hell of winning the ball, you seem to be able to make the GK punch the ball in the 2008 version compared to Pro 6 where he'd catch it all the time.

Kiruk

24-06-2008, 05:42

Im gonna have to dis-agree with you im afriad. Everytime i play PES2008, you hold A(X360) or X(PS3) and the player pressures the one in possession, 7/10 this will lead to a foul and in some cases a yellow card. Same with sliding tackles, you put in a great sliding and win the ball and the referee red cards you.

Can agree that he gets out the red card a bit to often (tough when you get used to it, it isn't that big a problem. Haven't gotten one in two seasons). Sliding tackles are all about hitting the ball first, if you don't it's a free kick, maybe a yellow some times when it shouldn't be. When it comes to pulling shirt A/X I only get cards when I do it from behind (often stepping on the players heel or similar) or trip him when he's already past me.

I'm not in any way saying they are perfect, there's still much room for improvement. Just when you get used to it, it's not that bad :)

borsi

24-06-2008, 21:40

I think I would like to see PES use the Euphoria Engine from Naturalmotion into the players movement. It would totally randomize all movements so that it wont look the same everytime. It would be cool if your player gets tackled and as he wobbled hes also trying to prevent himself from falling down, or put it in the goalkeeper at least, he would then give everything he got to not let the ball go in. It would change things to better state or should we say Next-Gen, and it would be reallyyyyy cool since Next-Gen console all features Euphoria.

Link to Euphoria:

http://www.naturalmotion.com/euphoria.htm

Euphoria in a sports game (Backbreaker):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwoVwZIvYhE&feature=related

Kiruk

25-06-2008, 16:49

Isn't that the same they use in GTA? It could probably work, but it would need some modification I think.

borsi

25-06-2008, 20:47

Isn't that the same they use in GTA? It could probably work, but it would need some modification I think.

Yeap its the same, some games that are already using it are, Star Wars: Force Unleashed, GTA 4, backbreaker and indiana jones. If FIFA release their 2009 game and features the euphoria engine while PES not, I think its difficult for Konami to climb back up. I hope Konami use it in PES 2009, it would be the most important decision, the one using it first will set a benchmark in footie games.

ThierryHenry14

25-06-2008, 20:55

Out Fifa and PES , Fifa is more likely to get the rights to use the Euphoria engine rather than Konami..

borsi

25-06-2008, 21:46

Out Fifa and PES , Fifa is more likely to get the rights to use the Euphoria engine rather than Konami..

It's actually not about exclusive rights, every game can use Euphoria, they only need to spend more in terms of game development, thats all, and the implementation to game will be help by the Euphoria technician, in fact making a game will be easier with the help from the Euphoria group, they only need to spend more.

LakoLako

25-06-2008, 23:43

Erm I just wanted to say that everyone goes on about how fifa have this license over the premier league but konami have the rights to la liga,serie a,eredivisie and ligue 1 and fifa have rights over these too so why cant konami buy the premiership licence or do fifa only have exclusive over the premiership not the other leagues.

Also btw i can't see konami buying the rights after 2010 because ea can offer loads of cash for this exclusive deal and konami can't.

borsi

26-06-2008, 01:55

Erm I just wanted to say that everyone goes on about how fifa have this license over the England League but konami have the rights to la liga,serie a,eredivisie and ligue 1 and fifa have rights over these too so why cant konami buy the England League licence or do fifa only have exclusive over the England League not the other leagues.

Also btw i can't see konami buying the rights after 2010 because ea can offer loads of cash for this exclusive deal and konami can't.

Well, for the premier license, as long as edit mode is there, I see no problems :D At least the satdiums are in the game.

Molonono1

26-06-2008, 12:51

the player rating is system is shit

the other day i got a 5.5 when i got 2 goals and 1 assist with scharwz and was involved in everything that happened going forwards

and i notice other teams like valencia who were no.2 in the club rankings get 7.0 or over for all of their players

its just annoying and leves me with no hope of winning the mvp

Elavius

26-06-2008, 12:52

i always win the mvp and i dont often get good ratings.. i won 10-0 a few days ago and the keeper got a 6.0!!! he conceded 10 goals!!!

shaun7

26-06-2008, 19:04

They need to fix the game speed but the most irritating part is the stamina. I hate the stamina system for the 360/ps3/pc versions of 2008. I also want the old edit mode back. At least we can play with all teams almost licensed. Also some gameplay issues like passing and especially the bad defending.

2-Face

30-06-2008, 19:55

Most of the things mentioned here should only be added when things like better passing system, no lag on internet are solved. Since ps2 time the passing system has been shit and I don't think Konami cares much about what we say.

Kiruk

30-06-2008, 21:36

Uhm, what's wrong with the passing system?

I want being able to have a B-squad. Train younger players without having to weaken your first squad. Doubt it will happen tough.

borsi

30-06-2008, 23:21

The passing system for the low pass, high pass and high through pass is ok as well as the cross. Need to work on the ground through pass though, for example player that have higher success and inteligent pass skill should pull off a more difficult and dangerous pass. I prefer better through pass than skilled players for my midfield i.e (fabregas) he should pull off some great through pass, in PES2008 I see no diff between players, only slightly , while in PES 5 or 6, its more dangerous.

2-Face

01-07-2008, 15:01

I think everyone will agree, that sometimes when you pass a direction it passes the other way. Also sometimes when you hold x (on ps) longer it doesn't pass to the player that is further away.

Also what i would like to see is when you shoot at goal, the goalie just stands there and then jumps. in real live the goalie doesn't wait for the ball to go left or right and then suddenly dives that direction.the goalie takes 1 or 2 steps and then dives. There are no spectacular saves since pes1 on ps1. I want to see the goalie make awesome saves.

the keeper should be stronger and scoring should be difficult. Shooting should be easier. Shots that go wide over bring no excitements to the game. i rather see the ball hitting the post or go directly into the goalies hand than to go 100 mtrs over. But when holding "shot" al the way i don't care if it goes over cause then it's to much power on the ball.

Also scoring is all the same. Many people go into the box and score the same over and over and over. Hitting the post more often brings excitement to the game.

Another thing that really pissed me of, that the computer decides if you miss a penalty or not. It's more fun if you everything in your own hands. With pes 2008 when it comes to penalty I either quit or play the game over.

Elavius

01-07-2008, 15:12