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Original?
19-02-2008, 10:38
Toshiba drops out of HD DVD war
The Blu-Ray Disc booth at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas last month
Sony's Blu-ray has won the backing of the biggest film studios
Toshiba has said it will stop making its high definition DVDs, ending a battle with rival format Blu-ray over which would be the industry standard.

Following a review of its business, Toshiba said it would stop production of HD DVD players and recorders.

The HD DVD format has suffered as major US film studios backed the Blu-ray format, which is being developed by electronics firm Sony and partners.

Analysts said the move would allow Toshiba to focus on other products.

"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba president Atsutoshi Nishida said.

Toshiba said the tipping point came last month when Warner Bros' followed a number of other film studios in deciding to release its movies only in the Blu-ray format.

"If we had continued, that would have created problems for consumers, and we simply had no chance to win," he said.

Toshiba will continue to supply retailers with machines until the end of March this year.

After that, Toshiba will continue to provide technical support to the estimated one million people worldwide who own HD DVD players and recorders.

A number of studios, including Universal, Paramount and DreamWorks, signed up to produce movies in HD DVD, but Toshiba's withdrawal is expected to reduce the number films available in the format.

Video rental firms, including Blockbuster and Netflix, have said they will phase out the Toshiba-backed format.

And last week, Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, announced it would only sell high-definition DVDs in the Blu-ray format at its 4,000 US stores.

The HD DVD versus Blu-ray battle has been likened to the VHS versus Betamax war of the 1980s.

It would appear to be all over, I know Mig posted in the other thread but just to make sure.

Miggy
19-02-2008, 11:02
Now we just have to wait for the discs to drop in price.

pategato
19-02-2008, 11:21
The good times for PS3 start now.

Jonny2J
19-02-2008, 14:39
The good times for PS3 start now.In what way?

Kevthedrummer
19-02-2008, 14:53
In what way?
It's the most affordable blu-ray player, which will have the whole HD market for the next X ammount of years. If people want a HD movie player, chances are now they will go for a PS3 until the standalone ones become more affordable. Plus it's a PS3. It does everything you need, and if people want an "all in one" entertainment system, they will be choosing it over the 360 now.

Don Sweey
19-02-2008, 14:56
But how high is demand for high defiition movies and media? Due to the exorbitant price of both media and drives/players, I'm not interested in it and I can't be the only one. I also won't be buyng a player - I'll eventually buy a Blu-Ray drive for my PC but only when the price is reasonable. The lack of competition will delay the fall in price which isn't good for consumers.

May I also add as a general note how disappointed I am with the capacities offered by both Blu-Ray and the dying HD DVD.

Kevthedrummer
19-02-2008, 14:59
But how high is demand for high defiition movies and media? Due to the exorbitant price of both media and drives/players, I'm not interested in it. I also won't be buyng a player - I'll eventually buy a Blu-Ray drive for my PC but only when the price is reasonable. The lack of competition will delay the fall in price which isn't good for consumers.
Well at this stage the demand isn't that high. I haven't got a source for this but I heard that the DVD will probably beat blu-ray in the long run anyway, simply because it's so afordable. But remember dvd's when they were around £20 on release? I suspect the prices will fall eventually, but I doubt it will be as soon.

What's your disappointment with the capacities? Dual layer blu-ray discs can store up to 80GB can't they?

Don Sweey
19-02-2008, 15:14
What's your disappointment with the capacities? Dual layer blu-ray discs can store up to 80GB can't they?

Nope, only 50GB.

Kevthedrummer
19-02-2008, 15:47
Nope, only 50GB.

dual layer? They will eventually have double sided dual layer blu ray discs which will total around 140GB. We learnt all this in a lecture a few weeks ago.

EDIT: Ah yes, wrong I am. 25 single layer, 50 dual layer and obviously 100 double sided.

Barry
19-02-2008, 16:29
Not a victory for the consumer. Blu-Ray has no competition in the close future (perhaps HVD) . However as there isn't a really big market with HDTV's I don't see a real increase i sales, perhaps people that were sitting on the fence have been convinced now.

But wait...http://www.betanews.com/article/Toshiba_denies_rumors_HD_DVD_n ot_dead_yet/1203352277

Jonny2J
19-02-2008, 19:34
It's the most affordable blu-ray player, which will have the whole HD market for the next X ammount of years. If people want a HD movie player, chances are now they will go for a PS3 until the standalone ones become more affordable. Plus it's a PS3. It does everything you need, and if people want an "all in one" entertainment system, they will be choosing it over the 360 now.So nothing to do with the quality of gaming then?

FutebolArte
19-02-2008, 21:20
uh xbox 360s are last gen.... ps3 the true next gen... I have a wii, 360, and ps3.... and only the ps3 is truly a next gen system

Lorenzinho
19-02-2008, 21:24
Haha yes ok whatever. Show us the specs to prove that.

Miggy
19-02-2008, 21:26
Ya bunch of fan boys.

Master system ftw!

Zoolander
21-02-2008, 04:29
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Viperized
21-02-2008, 10:09
Hahaha. What film is that clip from?

Original?
21-02-2008, 11:06
Haha yes ok whatever. Show us the specs to prove that.

According to 'specifications' the overall system power of the PS3 is 'double' that of the 360, though in practice harnassing said power has not been done/properly attempted. The specs however do support such a claim.

Miggy
21-02-2008, 11:12
Hahaha. What film is that clip from?

Robocop.

Kevthedrummer
21-02-2008, 17:19
So nothing to do with the quality of gaming then?

Nope. Absolutely not. Not yet at least.

Original?
21-02-2008, 19:19
Nope. Absolutely not. Not yet at least.

I see you've changed your course of argument! :tongue:

Kevthedrummer
21-02-2008, 19:27
I'd say Johnny changed the course of the arguement :tongue:

50!
22-02-2008, 17:58
Leading retailers are cleverly [or under-handedly?] renaming HD DVD players in order to shift their stock.

Now that the HD DVD format is no more, Play.com and others are renaming HD DVD players as ‘Upscaling DVD’ players to make them a more attractive buy. After all, not many will be investing in HD DVD players these days – although I know some people who are planning to cash in big time on the price drops for both the movies and players. After all, a HD movie is a HD movie, regardless of format.

On Play.com, the ‘Toshiba HD-EP30 HD DVD player’ has become the ‘Toshiba HD-EP30 HDMI Upscaling DVD Player with HD DVD High Definition Playback’.

Prices have also been hacked from £120 to £80 and you get two decent HD DVD movies thrown in – 300 and The Bourne Supremacy. You can probably expect that to drop even further in the coming weeks


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