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I'm sickened by the car failure that has cost Massa a much deserved victory. The reliability of the car these days is so poor compared to how it was. Disgusting.
I'm sickened by the car failure that has cost Massa a much deserved victory. The reliability of the car these days is so poor compared to how it was. Disgusting.
Gutted for Massa there, he completely outperformed the McLarens despite being a huge underdog and completely deserved the win.
PESFan92
03-08-2008, 21:09
Wow, surprise after surprise. After the first corner i thought
"Its gotta be down to the fuel loads"
how i was wrong What was it Massa pited on lap 18 and Hamilton pitted at the end of lap 18 tells you the story really. Massa was quick during the race, gutted for him for his engine to go 3 laps before the end. Ferrari need to sort out their reliability issues. I mean after today McLaren are only 11 points behind Ferrari in the constructors' title. Mind you, i don't mind because i've always been a McLaren Fan :)
I'm pleased on how Hamilton has matured over the past year, like now his not taking risks and taking the points.
AgentZero
03-08-2008, 23:13
:laugh: i think it was Hill who mentioned Massa has had a shit run in Hungary, it looked to be over...BAM!
Why don't Ferrari just hand that jammy cunt the fucking title?
Why don't Ferrari just hand that jammy cunt the fucking title?
The same reason why Raikkonen won't fuck off and retire: its more torturous this way.
The same reason why Raikkonen won't fuck off and retire: its more torturous this way.
And five minutes after I posted that I found out he gets demoted. Maybe there is justice in the world. I'd love to see Steve Ryder's face when he saw that news.
CaptainCabinet
07-09-2008, 17:30
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7602830.stm
Shame that.
Now I feel even worse for Kimi :crymore:
Come on Massa! :w00t
And five minutes after I posted that I found out he gets demoted. Maybe there is justice in the world. I'd love to see Steve Ryder's face when he saw that news.
:chanlaugh:
Or heard Martin Brundle complaining about how all FIA and steward decisions are geared to favour Ferrari.
FutebolArte
07-09-2008, 17:53
so massa won then..??,,...
AgentZero
07-09-2008, 23:20
yeah, so does this change the betting ?
Kevthedrummer
08-09-2008, 00:19
that's disgraceful. Politics. Everyone hates us brits. I don't see how he can get disqualified for that given the circumstances.
freestyleh7
08-09-2008, 01:18
No wonder why we lose eurovision.
No wonder why we lose eurovision.
Have you ever considered that our songs are just shite for that one?
Kevthedrummer
08-09-2008, 01:22
who cares about eurovision?
Foxhound
08-09-2008, 05:48
I'm not a fan of Hamilton but I did not see what he did wrong. I won't complain though, as Massa is now 2 points behind.
nikicampos
08-09-2008, 05:58
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7602830.stm
Shame that.
That's bullshit, Hamilton did nothing wrong, fucking stewards, he let Kimi go on by and then he went for him.
Not a very good day for me in sports, i thought Hamilton won, not!!!!, and later on, Tom Brady possible out for the season, for those of you that are into American Football.
I fucking hate ferrari, LOL.
AgentZero
08-09-2008, 10:20
yeah must say that DQ is absolutely horseshit.
James Allen's verdict on the Belgian GP (http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=James_Allen&id=43872)
:>
Basically, Hamilton is a fucking cock. He even said after the race that he waited for Raikkonen to pass in order to immediately get into his slipstream and take the position back straight away (not sure if its in the link above or one of the other reports I've read). That means he never gave up the advantage gained from cutting the chicane. Subsequently, he's penalised as he deserves.
Ferrari are still fucked though :|.
Twenty-five seconds though!? That is obscene, as he never gained that much of an advantage. For such a delicately balanced decision as Allen said in that article, how they can dish out such a high penalty and expect it to be accepted is ridiculous.
Twenty-five seconds though!? That is obscene, as he never gained that much of an advantage. For such a delicately balanced decision as Allen said in that article, how they can dish out such a high penalty and expect it to be accepted is ridiculous.
Well we had to make do with a £50m fine for McLaren when they cheated and broke numerous rules rather than being thrown out of the championship altogether which would've severely compromised them due to the way sponsorship filters down. Ultimately McLaren may have gotten away with paying just £15m which is downright pathetic.
Swings and roundabouts - and the decision from the stewards simply doesn't come close to the above.
Twenty-five seconds though!? That is obscene, as he never gained that much of an advantage. For such a delicately balanced decision as Allen said in that article, how they can dish out such a high penalty and expect it to be accepted is ridiculous.
Thats how much time he would have lost if he had a drive through penalty.
nikicampos
09-09-2008, 01:14
I've read that the computer of McLaren had Hamilton going slower than Kimi at the end of that turn, Hamilton slowed down, the Kimi past him, then Hamilton speed up, that was a clean pass, Kimi cried because he crash and the stewards give the win to Ferrari.
But anyway, that's F1, sometimes goes your way sometime doesn't.
Some exciting 5 more races to see if Masa can finally win or if Hamilton is really that good to be champion in his second year.
No matter if you are Ferrari or McLaren fan, we are in for one great finish.
I've read that the computer of McLaren had Hamilton going slower than Kimi at the end of that turn, Hamilton slowed down, the Kimi past him, then Hamilton speed up
That is very true but due to the superior performance of the McLaren car, doing so didn't give the lead back to Ferrari sufficiently whereas on a track with closer performance between the two, it would have. That's where it fell down for Hamilton as he was immediately into the slipstream but wouldn't have been if he hadn't cut the chicane.
Kevthedrummer
09-09-2008, 13:09
Thats how much time he would have lost if he had a drive through penalty.
I thought that was 8-10 seconds?
I thought that was 8-10 seconds?
Plus the time spent going into, and out of, the pits at a restricted speed limit.
Kevthedrummer
09-09-2008, 13:19
Imagine if this happened in football though, the ref decides 2 hours after the game that a goal was disallowed or something...
Imagine if this happened in football though, the ref decides 2 hours after the game that a goal was disallowed or something...
I know where you're coming from but Formula One is different. The result at the chequered flag is always provisional. There are weight checks done after every race and, obviously as in this case, some things which get looked at after the race because the stewards have so much power.
Anything that's bad for Hamilton gets my vote. I'd desperately love to see Massa win the title, not just because he's up against Hamilton or a Ferrari driver. I remember when he first came into Formula One as a super-fast, error-riden driver and I took a liking to him straight away.
Kevthedrummer
09-09-2008, 13:33
I know where you're coming from but Formula One is different. The result at the chequered flag is always provisional. There are weight checks done after every race and, obviously as in this case, some things which get looked at after the race because the stewards have so much power.
Yeah I understand all that, but things like this are very damaging for the name of F1. It's not doing it any good for the "sport". The whole point that Kimi crashing out makes this whole scenario even more ridiculous, and all the points go to someone who didn't necessarily deserve it, the same person who got let off very lightly for breaking the rules after the previous race. And I'm not saying that my points are justified, but to casual fans, these are the points that make the sport less appealing.
It just makes onlookers very suspicious of corruption and politics which is never healthy for any organization, especially in sport.
edit: and do understand that I am not a massive Hamilton fan, I am a neutral.
Former world champion Niki Lauda has slammed the decision that saw Lewis Hamilton stripped of his Belgian Grand Prix victory as "the worst judgment in the history of F1".
Lauda was left incensed after the race stewards handed Hamilton a retrospective 25-second drive-through penalty for 'cutting a corner and gaining an advantage'.
"This is the worst judgment in the history of F1, the most perverted judgment I have ever seen," said three-time champion Lauda. "It's absolutely unacceptable when three functionaries (stewards) influence the championship like this."
He added: "Hamilton did nothing wrong. He was on the outside, he then let him (Raikkonen) by, which is the rule, and afterwards he passed him.
"There was nothing special in what happened. Hamilton did the right thing in letting him by before again passing him."
The incident concerned, at the end of lap 42 of the 44-lap race and as rain began to fall, allowed Hamilton to move into the lead ahead of Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen.
However, the 23-year-old immediately conceded the lead back to the Finn, prior to conjuring a superb overtaking manoeuvre into the La Source hairpin.
On a greasy track, an enthralling cat-and-mouse game followed that culminated in Raikkonen sliding into a wall and Hamilton claiming victory.
But two hours after the race the stewards intervened, awarding a penalty that demoted Hamilton to third, and as far as Lauda is concerned, also threw the sport into chaos.
http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5h-VlErIXIGdRhYhJC8eDFG0bLTYw
It'd help if those comments didn't come from someone who passionately hates the Ferrari hierarchy which removed him from their backroom about nine years ago.
It'd also help if he didn't love McLaren.
Kubica to replace Raikkonen at Ferrari please.
nikicampos
09-09-2008, 22:08
This was something against McLaren, but anyway, this year, Hamilton will be the champion and if Kovalainen can get a grip of himself and drive like he is suppose to McLaren will get the constructors championship also.
I must admit I was actually happy Hamilton got demoted because he clearly got an advantage cutting the chicane. I'm just happy Kimi was back to his best and he still has an outside chance of winning the title but if things don't go his way this weekend, he will have to support Massa.
It looks like Alonso will be at BMW next season with Kubica, great partnership there.
I'd be happier if Raikkonen started helping Massa out this weekend. Ferrari are doing themselves no favours in the drivers championship by continuing to back both drivers equally considering Hamilton is a threat.
We desperately need a home one-two.
Bad news Sweey:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70498
At least it's better than having Alonso at Ferrari.
Foxhound
12-09-2008, 15:44
When you said bad news, I thought it was about Kimi retiring from F1
Bad news Sweey:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70498
At least it's better than having Alonso at Ferrari.
Panicked it was a reversal of the decision that went against McLaren. Not the world's best news but it could be worse.
nikicampos
14-09-2008, 14:32
I guess now we know who is the master in rain conditions, Lewis Hamilton.
Great race.
I guess now we know who is the master in rain conditions, Lewis Hamilton.
Great race.
Don't you mean Vettel?
And here I was thinking Massa was a good driver, he only managed to take 1 point off Hamilton. Both Ferrari drivers are shit.
Both Ferrari drivers are shit.
I'm thinking its the car. They were highly competetive before Silverstone but McLaren seem to have upgraded their package and Ferrari can't compete. Although both of them could have done a much better job today. Maasa could have probably got third if he could have taken Heidfeld, his overtaking in general is quite poorin my opinion. I also can't see how Raikkonen deserves a new contract when hes been completely off the pace for ages and while I'd hate to see that cunt Alonso in a Ferrari, I can't help but think he'd do a better job.
nikicampos
15-09-2008, 02:35
Don't you mean Vettel?
And here I was thinking Massa was a good driver, he only managed to take 1 point off Hamilton. Both Ferrari drivers are shit.
OOOOhhhh no, don't get me wrong, Vettel race well, he is no master, he started in pole and finished first, but Hamilton from 15th all the way to 2nd and then because he didn't make things right he had to go in for a second pit stop that he didn't need if only he had put intermediates in his first pit stop, but anyway.
Hamilton race was magnificent.
This was a lucky race for Vettel, he will not win another race this year even with rain, he got the opportunity and took it, thumbs up for him.
Wouldn't surprise if, now Vettel has shown how good a young driver he is, Vettel gets offered to race for a big team next year. He certainly is a hot prospect and could compete with Lewis once he gets a more powerful and consistent car.
Foxhound
27-09-2008, 04:17
What's your prediction for tomorrow's race? Will it be one of the most exciting race or the most boring race?
freestyleh7
27-09-2008, 13:43
I'm not to sure, proberly be a exciting race, it's gonna be weird watching a night f1 race.
I think it is cool, but the Valencia race had a lot of promise as well and that was, well, boring.
Starting grid for the Singapore GP:-
1. MASSA Ferrari
2. HAMILTON McLaren
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari
4. KUBICA BMW
5. KOVALAINEN McLaren
6. HEIDFELD BMW
7. VETTEL Toro Rosso
8. GLOCK Toyota
9. ROSBERG Williams
10. NAKAJIMA Williams
11. TRULLI Toyota
12. BUTTON Honda
13. WEBBER Red Bull
14. COULTHARD Red Bull
15. ALONSO Renault
16. PIQUET Renault
17. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso
18. BARRICHELLO Honda
19. SUTIL Force India
20. FISICHELLA Force India
I am looking forward to watching it tomorrow, will be weird watching night-race but it could be the start of many more to come (if it is successful, that is).
Should be a great battle between Massa & Hamilton.
I think it is cool, but the Valencia race had a lot of promise as well and that was, well, boring.
I thought it could rival the glitz of Monaco, turned out it's in some industrial area. :/
I didn't see the qualifying today so I don't know what kind of spectacle night time F1 is, but I'm sure the race will be great to watch.
FOR FUCKS SAKE! :realmad:
PESFan92
28-09-2008, 13:43
Wow, who saw that pit stop from Massa?.....drove away with the fuel nossell thing on his car....that has probably cost him the race now. This is Lewis' race for the taking now, if he doesn't make any mistakes, look out for Alonso too. Who's fault do you think it was?.
Wow, who saw that pit stop from Massa?.....drove away with the fuel nossell thing on his car....that has probably cost him the race now. This is Lewis' race for the taking now, if he doesn't make any mistakes, look out for Alonso too.
Raikkonen will cut the cunt in half, hopefully literally.
Ferrari need to get rid of this fucking ridiculous system. Massa's race looks lost because some spastic switched the system to a green light. Massa didn't do anything wrong.
PESFan92
28-09-2008, 13:49
Raikkonen will cut the cunt in half, hopefully literally.
Ferrari need to get rid of this fucking ridiculous system. Massa's race looks lost because some spastic switched the system to a green light. Massa didn't do anything wrong.
Being a McLaren fan, its all good, but i honestly feel for Massa. He was driving so good this could turn the title right round. Gonna go down to the wire now i think in the championship.
EDIT: Thats unfair, a penalty for Massa. Mind you he was released into the path of Sutil.
Being a McLaren fan, its all good, but i honestly feel for Massa. He was driving so good this could turn the title right round. Gonna go down to the wire now i think in the championship.
I don't think it will go down to the wire if Hamilton gets enough points over Massa today. Hamilton is the more consistent driver which is why Massa desperately needs a Championship lead. In any given race, Massa could struggle and be around fourth or even fifth with Hamilton fighting someone for the win. That's where Massa's problems lie - along with Ferrari continuing to use a semi-automatic system which has provided enough problems previously to have been scrapped long before now.
I am absolutely livid.
Foxhound
28-09-2008, 14:03
That's it. Massa's race is over. What a huge fuck-up in the Pit there.
freestyleh7
28-09-2008, 14:07
Stupid twats, thats massa out the race his getting penalty's now because he is getting frustrated.
Christijan Albers had that last year or two years ago as well at Magny Cours, drove off ignoring the lollipop sign and took part of the fuel rig with him.
Niki Lauda said it was the dumbest thing he ever saw at a F1 race :chanlaugh:
2:22
Stupid twats, thats massa out the race his getting penalty's now because he is getting frustrated.
That penalty for unsafe release was the fault of the cunt who pressed the green light telling Massa to go when a) the bloody fuel rig is still in the car and b) there's someone about to pass his pit box.
I want Hamilton to go head-first into the wall forcing another safety car from which Massa pits before the pit lane closes and ends up second behind the lumbering Trulli when it all shakes out. Never going to happen.
3:10
Raikkonen....words cannot describe.
Alonso won!?
Yep. Him over Hamilton any day for me.
There a very few drivers I like tbh. All smug rich background cunts really.
Massa seems cool enough though, like Barrichello. Must be a Brazilian thing.
Ferrari:
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/facepalm.jpg
nikicampos
29-09-2008, 01:17
Only three more races to go and McLaren is on top of both Championships, i just feel that this is the year for McLaren, last year they let if go in the 2 last races, just hope this year won't happen again.
nath_scfc
31-10-2008, 12:36
Predictions? Hamilton will get it imo. I can see him messing it up at some point, but equally I can see Massa doing the same. If it was someone like Kubica challenging him, I'd be a little bit more worried if I was Lewis.
AgentZero
31-10-2008, 12:39
hamilton better not bottle it.
Hamilton will get it. Massa has to win with Hamilton no higher than about sixth or to finish second with Hamilton finishing no higher than seventh.
Personally I hope Massa wins and Raikkonen, Alonso and Webber team up to take Hamilton off the track - or hopefully worse. I want the life he leads ripped away from him as painfully as possible by any means necessary.
I'm pretty sure Massa either won't finish or will be so far back we'll know Hamilton is the champion long before the end of the race.
i used to know this geeza who listened to 'Sounds of F1' on his Ipod.
like just sounds of F1 cars.
On his Ipod.
Strange kid he was.
Hopefully Hamilton keeps a calm head, he should do it pretty comfortably. Alonso is such a bastard but he's arguably the most talented driver in F1 at the moment.
Foxhound
31-10-2008, 14:30
My heart says Massa but my head says Hamilton.
Hopefully Hamilton keeps a calm head, he should do it pretty comfortably. Alonso is such a bastard but he's arguably the most talented driver in F1 at the moment.
I'd put Kubica as the most talented but Alonso is certainly up there.
nath_scfc
31-10-2008, 21:38
I'd put Kubica as the most talented but Alonso is certainly up there.
Agreed. Stick Kubica in a McClaren and he'd rape the field.
Raikkonen has been like Jarno Trulli this season, absolutely brilliant in flashes but generally shite. Doesn't seem like hes been able to hook his car up on so many occassions.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
The Messiah
02-11-2008, 18:48
Lulz at Massa's dad.
CaptainCabinet
02-11-2008, 18:49
Lynch mob for Glock?
AgentZero
02-11-2008, 18:49
Get In !!!!! Hamilton
What the fuck happened to Glock? He was 15 seconds ahead of them!! How did he lose 18 seconds that lap??!
I want Lewis Hamilton dead. If he gets shot in the head at any point in his life I will laugh and throw a big fuck off party.
Haha. Fair play to Hamilton.
mufcsean
02-11-2008, 18:50
Fuckinhell, how close was that
AgentZero
02-11-2008, 18:50
i did not sleep just to watch that...all worth it
Ferrari and the damn semi-automatic system :fplm: (Singapore particularly)
Well done Hamilton. One of the most dramatic endings i've seen in sport, let alone F1. Have to feel for Massa, but couldn't help but laugh when the Ferrari team were celebrating, not knowing Hamilton was 5th.
Been a good season, more competitive in my view. Guys like Kubica and Vettel challenging. Hamilton's a deserved champion.
Nice to see Facebook has its pulse on the action. "I fucking HATE Timo Glock", an offshoot of the "I fucking HATE Lewis Hamilton" group is already in place.
Where's Tony Montana when you need him?
http://i35.tinypic.com/23t4e1h.jpg
Ouch.
I was jumping up with joy when Hamilton was 6th until Glock fucked up. Anyways well done.
Feel for Massa, he was quality this season but was robbed of a world title because of his teams mistake.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooow.
mattlarge
02-11-2008, 19:24
http://i35.tinypic.com/23t4e1h.jpg
Ouch.
That guy who looks like the Devil, delivering the bad news to Massa's Dad, lol.
Well done Lewis, top championship victory.
Glocks tyres were dead on that last lap, given he was also on slicks in the wet...
'Is it Glock? ITS GLOCK!' #1 piece of sports commentary :)
Lynch mob for Glock?
Yes please. :fplm:
No doubt we'll get clueless F1 fuckers from the UK coming out of the woodwork now.
I tend only to watch the final day of F1, and I'm glad I did.
Not going to say much more but "wow" at how that ended, as I am fucking clueless myself.
Ferrari's reaction when they were told Hamilton finished 5th was one of the funniest things I have ever witnessed.
Keyser Soze
02-11-2008, 19:29
Just fucking chuffed for Lewis really, you could see how much it meant to him.
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197 cfo.gif
I'm torn between my dislike for Ferrari and Hamilton. Thus resulting in a huge feeling of indifference towards both Hamilton's victory and Ferrari's party crash.
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197 cfo.gif
lol
I'm torn between my dislike for Ferrari and Hamilton. Thus resulting in a huge feeling of indifference towards both Hamilton's victory and Ferrari's party crash.
I'm with you Barry. Although at least Alonso didn't win it.
Guess we should get ready for more "I'd make Senna proud by being better than him" comments.
Lorenzinho
02-11-2008, 20:11
Is that GIF a clip of when they got told Hamilton finished 5th?
nikicampos
02-11-2008, 20:12
Yes, Hamilton World Champion, it's been so long (close to 10 years) without a championship, it feels great to have won this extremely intense race just 20 seconds until the end.
McLaren forever.
Lewis Hamilton on the way to be one of the greatest of this sport.
He's still got a long way to go yet but if someone like Schumacher has tipped him for greatness, you have to listen.
Hamilton has been successful all his career so far in racing so there's no doubting his ability or talent as a driver.
nikicampos
02-11-2008, 20:28
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197 cfo.gif
I laughed so hard when i so them on tv, and this .gif is just great to send to all of my Ferrari friends.
AgentZero
02-11-2008, 23:14
ahahahahh i think they saw Nicole Szchzingerburger celebrating and were like wtf!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Acid-Hydralisk/1386821hamilton-f1.gif
mufcsean
02-11-2008, 23:32
:lol2:
I thought Massa was very gracious in defeat, he comes across as a great guy. I actually would have preffered for him to win in the end as I don't think he will ever get this close again.
P.S, thank God the coverage is moving to the BBC.
AgentZero
02-11-2008, 23:37
for the record both Toyotas lost 17 seconds in the last lap. So you need to add Fischicella in that gif.
The last time a Brazilian got fuckeded over this badly by the English was at Stockwell Underground Station.
That is two days in a row you have stolen a joke from Sickipedia.
nikicampos
03-11-2008, 01:32
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Acid-Hydralisk/1386821hamilton-f1.gif
So stupid that .gif, if it hadn't been raining the last 5 laps, Hamilton would have been the champ still, but instead it rain, so the toyota's did the oposite of helping Hamilton, they stay on the track to try to fuck Hamilton's championship, they were the only ones that didn't pit in the last 4 laps, and if you can see, even drivers with intermediates were having problems trying to keep the car on track, so, the toyotas had slicks, of course they were going to loose 17 secs a lap.
for the record both Toyotas lost 17 seconds in the last lap. So you need to add Fischicella in that gif.
Trulli you mean. :fplm:
So stupid that .gif, if it hadn't been raining the last 5 laps, Hamilton would have been the champ still, but instead it rain, so the toyota's did the oposite of helping Hamilton, they stay on the track to try to fuck Hamilton's championship, they were the only ones that didn't pit in the last 4 laps, and if you can see, even drivers with intermediates were having problems trying to keep the car on track, so, the toyotas had slicks, of course they were going to loose 17 secs a lap.
If it hadn't rained? If Ferrari hadn't used a semi-automatic system Hamilton wouldn't have had a chance if you want to look at it that way. You honestly think they stayed out because the team's first concern was Hamilton?? Jesus :no:
I suppose Vettel passed Hamilton without needing to, right? :fplm:
Loving the GIF 50!, particuarly as it was the first thing a number of people said. Glock to McLaren in 2010 when they get rid of Kovalainen no doubt.
AgentZero
03-11-2008, 09:07
Trulli you mean. :fplm:
:fplm:...farrrrk there goes my cover.
nikicampos
03-11-2008, 09:15
If it hadn't rained? If Ferrari hadn't used a semi-automatic system Hamilton wouldn't have had a chance if you want to look at it that way. You honestly think they stayed out because the team's first concern was Hamilton?? Jesus :no:
I suppose Vettel passed Hamilton without needing to, right? :fplm:
Loving the GIF 50!, particuarly as it was the first thing a number of people said. Glock to McLaren in 2010 when they get rid of Kovalainen no doubt.
WFT are you talking about, are you high????
What i was saying is that Hamilton didn't needed any help and in fact he didn't get it, that stupid gif is saying that McLaren paid Glock for the win, if you can't see or understand that if you have slicks in rain you won't be able to do the same time, even the cars with intermediates were not handling well in some parts of the race, and, the toyotas stayed out to try win more points, that's called strategy, they choose not to pit.
People here need to read first before posting stupid comments.
Oh, and also, learn some basics in Formula 1.
WFT are you talking about, are you high????
What i was saying is that Hamilton didn't needed any help and in fact he didn't get it, that stupid gif is saying that McLaren paid Glock for the win, if you can't see or understand that if you have slicks in rain you won't be able to do the same time, even the cars with intermediates were not handling well in some parts of the race, and, the toyotas stayed out to try win more points, that's called strategy, they choose not to pit.
People here need to read first before posting stupid comments.
Oh, and also, learn some basics in Formula 1.
Learn some basics in F1? :chanlaugh: surely its you that needs to?
You're the one who stated that the Toyota's stayed out "to try and fuck Hamilton's championship" and I clearly stated they had other things to think about so it is YOU who needs to learn about strategy and attempting to win more poiints. They weren't thinking about him, so get over yourself.
Glock let Hamilton past - but why would you care?
I love it - Toyota were thinking of Hamilton when they stayed out and tried to ruin his title bid but they weren't thinking of him when he "swept past Glock"*
*like bollocks did he.
AgentZero
03-11-2008, 09:21
bottom line is Hamilton came fifth due to toyotas gamble going wrong.
nikicampos
03-11-2008, 18:22
.......
Glock let Hamilton past - but why would you care?
.......
OMG, you are still high, what i meant was, that in any case, the toyotas didn't helped hamilton but fuck him by staying out trying to get more points.
And please, how blind and ignorant are you by saying "Glock let Hamilton past", have you ever heard of "dry" tires, well, Glock had them on, and as you can see, it's impossible to keep the same time with dry tires when it's raining, Glock didn't let Hamilton pass, Glock was unable to keep the pace, that's it.
End of story.
OMG, you are still high, what i meant was, that in any case, the toyotas didn't helped hamilton but fuck him by staying out trying to get more points.
And please, how blind and ignorant are you by saying "Glock let Hamilton past", have you ever heard of "dry" tires, well, Glock had them on, and as you can see, it's impossible to keep the same time with dry tires when it's raining, Glock didn't let Hamilton pass, Glock was unable to keep the pace, that's it.
End of story.
Dear God get some sense.
Glock did nothing to help himself whne it came to that final lap. Perhaps you haven't seen HIS final lap like I have. If you're so far up McLaren's arse how are you meant to see sense?
I'm fully aware of what dry tyres are like on a wet track and clearly have stated such in previous posts so stop coming out with drivel.
The fact you're simply trying to be patronising shows the cracks in your own warped viewpoint. Keep your head buried in the sand, it makes no difference to me if you want to remain an ignorant idiot.
Whether I know more about Formula 1 than you is irrelevant considering I know a hell of a lot and have watched it for 18 years. Regardless of what you do - or clearly don't - know, I know enough.
If you want to speak to a child so you can continue your laughable patronising style, go look in a mirror. For your own sake.
AgentZero
03-11-2008, 21:16
on a sidenote i didnt know Hamiltons brother had cerebral palsy...i thought he was doing his pimp limp a bit too hard.
nikicampos
04-11-2008, 02:01
Dear God get some sense.
Glock did nothing to help himself whne it came to that final lap. Perhaps you haven't seen HIS final lap like I have. If you're so far up McLaren's arse how are you meant to see sense?
I'm fully aware of what dry tyres are like on a wet track and clearly have stated such in previous posts so stop coming out with drivel.
The fact you're simply trying to be patronising shows the cracks in your own warped viewpoint. Keep your head buried in the sand, it makes no difference to me if you want to remain an ignorant idiot.
Whether I know more about Formula 1 than you is irrelevant considering I know a hell of a lot and have watched it for 18 years. Regardless of what you do - or clearly don't - know, I know enough.
If you want to speak to a child so you can continue your laughable patronising style, go look in a mirror. For your own sake.
FI, i have watched Formula 1 for 23 years since i was 5, so, stop crying you Ferrrari fan that wants to try and say anything against Hamilton, he is a worthy champion, that's it.
And of course the last lap of glock was the slowest, just because is when was raining more.
What's all this crap with Ferrari fanboys and anti-hamilton idiots, trying to say that Glock let him pass so he could be champion, so stupid.
Worthy champion? :chanlaugh:
Glock and Hamilton are friends which you've clearly failed to realise. I'm not a crying Ferrari fan or a fanboy - the very notion that you've resorted to such childish, retarded suggestions proves what a sorry individual you are. You can't make a single post in a discussion without resorting to personal comments. That says it all really.
I'd cry for you if I wasn't laughing so hard.
Have too agree with Don. Hamilton makes too many stupid errors and seems to lack clinical nature required that all 'champions' of the past had. Please note I do not include Hill as if you get the best car from day one, it's inevitable you'll win something.
F1 has been on the slide for the last few years. Too many anal rule changes & too much bullshit from the money men. I had hoped this year would see the beginnings of a new era in the sport, but nay.
Looks like Aussie V8's for me again next year.
AgentZero
04-11-2008, 10:36
Have too agree with Don. Hamilton makes too many stupid errors and seems to lack clinical nature required that all 'champions' of the past had. Please note I do not include Hill as if you get the best car from day one, it's inevitable you'll win something.
F1 has been on the slide for the last few years. Too many anal rule changes & too much bullshit from the money men. I had hoped this year would see the beginnings of a new era in the sport, but nay.
Looks like Aussie V8's for me again next year.
Please don't....I didnt know it gets coverage in the motherland.
Kevthedrummer
04-11-2008, 11:05
Worthy champion? :chanlaugh:
Glock and Hamilton are friends which you've clearly failed to realise. I'm not a crying Ferrari fan or a fanboy - the very notion that you've resorted to such childish, retarded suggestions proves what a sorry individual you are. You can't make a single post in a discussion without resorting to personal comments. That says it all really.
I'd cry for you if I wasn't laughing so hard.
No one will ever be right or wrong in this debate.
don't get me wrong here, I'm not taking sides but surely Ferrari have been guilty of just as much. Technically drivers aren't "supposed" to allow other drivers to pass, (obviously unless they're being lapped) but it happens all the time. Actually I really can't be arsed to get into this...
I'll just say that personally I am pleased Hamilton won, yeah he makes mistakes and he's a little inconsistent, but he has been on the recieving end of some very controversial decisions and has been basically hated by most in the sport for being a bit daring and different, even if a little immature and he's actually made the sport a whole lot more interesting (imo).
For him and his family to be booed is a disgrace too.
No one will ever be right or wrong in this debate.
don't get me wrong here, I'm not taking sides but surely Ferrari have been guilty of just as much. Technically drivers aren't "supposed" to allow other drivers to pass, (obviously unless they're being lapped) but it happens all the time. Actually I really can't be arsed to get into this...
I'll just say that personally I am pleased Hamilton won, yeah he makes mistakes and he's a little inconsistent, but he has been on the recieving end of some very controversial decisions and has been basically hated by most in the sport for being a bit daring and different, even if a little immature and he's actually made the sport a whole lot more interesting (imo).
For him and his family to be booed is a disgrace too.
Exactly. If it wasn't for that ridiculously harsh 25 second penalty he recieved, he would have been champion anyway.
Agree with everything in that post.
Exactly. If it wasn't for that ridiculously harsh 25 second penalty he recieved, he would have been champion anyway.
Agree with everything in that post.
It wasn't a harsh penalty. Even the likes of James Allen and Martin Brundle agreed that the penalty was justifiable as Hamilton overtook from a position he would never have been in had he not cut the chicane in the first place. Believe me, it takes a lot for Brundle to agree with something like that.
As the matter was so long ago - rather than in the penultimate race of the season - it shouldn't be considered with the way the championship ultimately ended for the simple reason that it had an effect on both drivers - it had to for the simple reason that it happened.
AgentZero
04-11-2008, 11:47
well them (Hamiltons) being booed...what would you expect? He won the championship in massa's home GP and in let me say 'confusing'circumstances around glock.
Kevthedrummer
04-11-2008, 11:55
well them (Hamiltons) being booed...what would you expect? He won the championship in massa's home GP and in let me say 'confusing'circumstances around glock.
they were booed before the race too.
Please don't....I didnt know it gets coverage in the motherland.
Motor's TV is a blessing. ;)
For him and his family to be booed is a disgrace too.
Agreed, that was not necessary. Same with the racisism issue in Spain. The guy might be (lucky) muppet, but no need for what happened.
around glock.
I'm sure there's a joke about "Hamilton thinks about racing around the Glock" in there somewhere...
AgentZero
04-11-2008, 12:31
they were booed before the race too.
oh didnt know about that.
nikicampos
04-11-2008, 20:40
Worthy champion? :chanlaugh:
Glock and Hamilton are friends which you've clearly failed to realise. I'm not a crying Ferrari fan or a fanboy - the very notion that you've resorted to such childish, retarded suggestions proves what a sorry individual you are. You can't make a single post in a discussion without resorting to personal comments. That says it all really.
I'd cry for you if I wasn't laughing so hard.
Hahahahaha, Hamilton is the Champion, that's all that matters, guess I'm laughing at all of you Ferrari fanboys who got owned by Hamilton.
I can see why you are so angry, Ferrari thought they had the championship 3 laps to go, but no, you have no idea how hard I laughed at you people when Hamilton pass "his friend" Glock, in fact, I'm still laughing.
All I care is that Hamilton will have the number 1 the next season, the number 1 is for the Champion, if you didn't knew that, LOL.
Cheers.
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197 cfo.gif
Hahahahaha, Hamilton is the Champion, that's all that matters, guess I'm laughing at all of you Ferrari fanboys who got owned by Hamilton.
I can see why you are so angry, Ferrari thought they had the championship 3 laps to go, but noooooooooooooo, you have no idea how hard I laughed at you people when Hamilton pass "his friend" Glock, in fact, I'm still laughing.
All I care is that Hamilton will have the number 1 the next season, the number 1 is for the Champion, if you didn't knew that, LOL.
Cheers.
http://fotos.subefotos.com/a984babe3db3feffe4e295c5e18197 cfo.gif
Firstly, the image doesn't work for me so you're a bit of a loser there.
Secondly, I'm not a fanboy unlike yourself.
Thirdly, why do YOU care so much that Hamilton has number 1 on HIS car?
In addition you laughed at "you people". What people would that be? I never thought Massa had the title as the race wasn't finished and if Ferrari were foolish enough to celebrate just like Italy at the Euro 2000 final, that's their problem.
Its so fucking hard to get through to idiots.
All I care is that Hamilton will have the number 1 the next season, the number 1 is for the Champion, if you didn't knew that, LOL.
And 22 is for worst team in the field. :lol:
AgentZero
04-11-2008, 22:59
And 22 is for worst team in the field. :lol:which they wouldnt have gotten had those massive penalties not incurred.
also Lewis' pay rise is set to eclipse Tiger Woods'
which they wouldnt have gotten had those massive penalties not incurred.
also Lewis' pay rise is set to eclipse Tiger Woods'
Penalties they fucking deserved I remind you. Should've been thrown out of both championships in 2007 but the FIA, "favouring Ferrari" once again allowed McLaren to get off with just a fine, and one which isn't crippling to the top teams.
nikicampos
05-11-2008, 00:02
Firstly, the image doesn't work for me so you're a bit of a loser there.
Secondly, I'm not a fanboy unlike yourself.
Thirdly, why do YOU care so much that Hamilton has number 1 on HIS car?
In addition you laughed at "you people". What people would that be? I never thought Massa had the title as the race wasn't finished and if Ferrari were foolish enough to celebrate just like Italy at the Euro 2000 final, that's their problem.
Its so fucking hard to get through to idiots.
Fuck, you are an idiot, the number 1 means he is the champion, thats why, fucking loser, Hamilton is the champion, accept that.
WTF is your problem???
Seems to me like you have a stick up your ass and that's why you are so angry at Hamilton, i just don't see what's your problem, for someone who says that don't care, you are a little bit to angry because the stupid massa didn't win.
Its so fucking hard to get through to idiots.
Right back at you.
PESFan92
06-11-2008, 09:47
This debate has gone on long engough. Hamilton & Massa both deserved the title, i would have liked to see Massa win it infront of his home fans and the town he was brought up in but but being British I'm happy Lewis won it. Al the confusement in the last corner wasn't down to them being friends. Vetel and Lewis are friends but on track they are rivals. Its the same with Glock, the lap before the last he done a 1:28s lap. He was driving with slick tyres onwet tarmac, he had no grip and then Hamilton just went past him.
Both teams and drivers made mistakes, but its not important to dwell on them. Whats important is to look back on them and make sure you improve on them.
Fuck, you are an idiot, the number 1 means he is the champion, thats why, fucking loser, Hamilton is the champion, accept that.
WTF is your problem???
Seems to me like you have a stick up your ass and that's why you are so angry at Hamilton, i just don't see what's your problem, for someone who says that don't care, you are a little bit to angry because the stupid massa didn't win.
Ooh I missed this, cheers PESFan92.
Booking for abusive language and I'm free to extend it if I wsh due to it being aimed at an admin. I love the rules in this place.
The debate is done - the results came back that you're stupid.
I'm sure that'd make you the "fucking loser". Meh.
nikicampos
06-11-2008, 20:24
Hahahah, you are the one angry, you are the fucking loser, and the stupid one, Hamilton is the Champion no matter what you say.
If you want to ban me for using your same words and the same insults that you are throwing to me, then fine, i'll come back with a different IP as a different user, but you are nothing but a double face, booking me for the same words you are using against me.
And let me remind you that you started this, but being such a bad loser and a fucking idiot, there, the polls have come, Obama is the President, and you are the fucking loser and the idiot.
Hahahah, you are the one angry, you are the fucking loser, and the stupid one, Hamilton is the Champion no matter what you say.
If you want to ban me for using your same words and the same insults that you are throwing to me, then fine, i'll come back with a different IP as a different user, but you are nothing but a double face, booking me for the same words you are using against me.
And let me remind you that you started this, but being such a bad loser and a fucking idiot, there, the polls have come, Obama is the President, and you are the fucking loser and the idiot.
Do my posts appear angry? If they do, I fear for your sanity. I'm neither a loser nor a fucking idiot and my posts do not suggest otherwise. Tell me, what does this have to do with Obama? Nothing.
Your threat to come back with a different IP, your posting style and your inability to behave like an adult deem you fully worthy of a long-term ban. If you're pathetic enough, as you appear to be, to return here with a different IP and username so be it. Clearly you need to grow up and get a life in that case.
McLaren and Hamilton fans - proving themselves ridiculous, childish and generally insecure once again.
EDIT: Thanks for the PM too.
Foxhound
30-01-2009, 12:56
Out of the new cars revealed for the 2009 season, McLaren looks the best.
AgentZero
30-01-2009, 13:17
piccies??? if this season is anything like the last..should be a cracker!
Foxhound
30-01-2009, 13:42
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8205/093ot7.jpg
http://media.paddocktalk.com/assets/albums/41_vodafone_mclaren_mercedes_m p4-24_-_overhead_view_-_a4__300dpi.jpg
But, most of the cars looks shit because of the small rear wing.
Phil W.A.F.C
30-01-2009, 23:26
That Ferrari one looks sexy. Aslong as that little silver McClaren becomes top trumps and the end of the season then it can look as sexy as it want's to.
nikicampos
31-01-2009, 00:30
The McLaren always looks the best.
AgentZero
31-01-2009, 05:29
wish toyota didnt have the red and white livery though as I think the silver mclaren thing has nothing on its red and white cars..in terms of aesthetics IMO.
This year's Formula One title will go to the driver with the most race wins rather than most points, the sport's governing body has announced.
In a dramatic move less than three weeks before the start of the new season, the International Automobile Federation (FIA) has opted to change the format, which, if used in 2008, would have seen Felipe Massa crowned champion.
The governing body's World Motor Sport Council has agreed to the proposal put forward by Bernie Ecclestone's Formula One Management.
The allocation of points will remain the same as last year's 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 sequence.
The rest of the standings, from second to last place, will also be decided by the current points system with the constructors' championship unaffected.
"If two or more drivers finish the season with the same number of wins, the title will be awarded to the driver with the most points," the FIA said in a statement.
The WMSC rejected an alternative option from the Formula One Teams' Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing first, second and third to 12, nine and seven points respectively.
The FIA have also agreed to introduce a voluntary budget cap from 2010 of £30million per two-car team as the sport seeks ways to further tighten its belt.
The aim is to make it easier for new teams to enter F1, as well as allow existing teams to participate on much reduced budgets should they so choose.
Explaining the WMSC's thinking behind the budget cap, FIA president Max Mosley said: "It has been carefully costed.
"The cars will be much less refined in detail, because the teams will not be able to spend huge sums on minute advantages.
"But from the grandstand or on television they won't look or sound any less 'Formula One' than the current, ultra-expensive cars.
"They will also be more interesting to the technically-minded because of the special features which will allow them to compete against teams with much bigger budgets.
"And don't forget that £30million is still a huge amount of money in the real world."
Although a cap would appear difficult to police, Mosley added: "We went into all this very carefully some time ago.
"We involved forensic accountants from Deloitte and Touche as well as financial experts from the current teams.
"The vast majority of payments are traceable and any benefits in kind can be valued.
"There were a number of meetings, and it became clear we could do it. The problem was getting the current teams to agree a figure."
I dunno about this. So technically, a driver can win 6 races, for example, and crash out of all the other races. Whereas another driver can win 5 and finish 2nd, 3rd in all the others, finish with loads more points and still lose the championship.
I didn't think it needed much changing. Bit coincidental it comes after Hamilton's championshp win? Maybe, maybe not. But, if it encourages more exciting races, as more drivers will be pushing to win races rather than just accept a position within the points, then it could make it more entertaining. Would need more evenly matched teams though.
I dunno about this. So technically, a driver can win 6 races, for example, and crash out of all the other races. Whereas another driver can win 5 and finish 2nd, 3rd in all the others, finish with loads more points and still lose the championship.
I didn't think it needed much changing. Bit coincidental it comes after Hamilton's championshp win? Maybe, maybe not. But, if it encourages more exciting races, as more drivers will be pushing to win races rather than just accept a position within the points, then it could make it more entertaining. Would need more evenly matched teams though.
If that's how it is - and that's my understanding - it could all go horribly wrong at some point.
As for Hamilton, he can fuck off and die. Forza Jenson Button - after Ferrari of course ;)
Shame there are no Dutch drivers this season - how else will we embarass ourselves on a big sports event this year?
Shame there are no Dutch drivers this season - how else will we embarass ourselves on a big sports event this year?
Cricket's Twenty20 World Cup in the summer?
FutebolArte
17-03-2009, 18:05
let's see if ferrari will stick with the lollypops this year...
Cricket's Twenty20 World Cup in the summer?
I meant a sports event that anyone actually cares about :w00t
If that's how it is - and that's my understanding - it could all go horribly wrong at some point.
I'm thinking the same. This decision will come back to haunt them.
I can imagine it being a closely contested battle in terms of points but the championship ending prematurely because it's impossible to catch up with number of race victories.
It's improbable, but say Hamilton has 4 more wins than Massa, 13 more points and 3 races left. Championship over. :faceplm:
Its worse than that though...imagine someone, for this example Massa, wins six of the first ten races but crashes out of the other four and Hamilton, Raikkonen, Alonso and Kubica all win one plus one of those four finishes second or third in every race. Massa would be five clear with about seven or eight races left and therefore one of the others would need pretty much a miracle to overhaul him despite doing consistently well.
I do think wins need to be counted in some form but perhaps in a larger points advantage in the first place like it used to be. I've never liked 10 points for first and 8 for second.
If they'd had this rule when Schumacher was driving it'd be over really quickly.
They should have just done this:
The WMSC rejected an alternative option from the Formula One Teams' Association to change the points awarded to drivers finishing first, second and third to 12, nine and seven points respectively.
Why do they have to ruin it?
What ever happened to the 1 point to pole position sitter proposition? I like to see more people throwing caution to the wind in qualifying rather than going tactical on the fuel.
Michael Schumacher and Jean Todt have left Ferrari today. Three guesses where they'll end up.
AgentZero
17-03-2009, 22:03
Mercedes Benz-Mclaren?
Just seen pics of soem of the launches...and must say the FW31 is one sexy looking car.
Mercedes Benz-Mclaren?
I do hope you were being sarcastic.
AgentZero
17-03-2009, 22:18
yes, yes i was. We all know now that Brawn has his own racing outfit.
yes, yes i was. We all know now that Brawn has his own racing outfit.
Does he?! Since when? :ninja:
Like I said, clearly causing Schumacher and Todt to leave, Forza Button (after Ferrari).
AgentZero
17-03-2009, 22:30
Any news of any/more sponsors jumping on board? Heard also they too will use Mercedes engines.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who think it's a shit rule, no doubt that old bastard Ecclestone had a say in this.
Mclaren struggling in testing so far, great to hear.
S'alright matey, I agree the rule is fucking stupid. I can only guess that they want to avoid the whole 'racing for position' rather than just for the win. Does mean the smaller team have fuck all worth racing for though.
The only way the new system would work is if every team were on a level playing field as with A1GP.
AgentZero
18-03-2009, 12:41
i enjoy the a1gp...its crude and exciting at the same time.
Kevthedrummer
18-03-2009, 14:26
Surely the championship should be won by consistency rather than winnings. This is a ridiculous idea. They may have shot themselves in the foot just as the sport was gaining huge popularity again.
Though with evening out the budgets etc we might see more decent racing...
Surely the championship should be won by consistency rather than winnings. This is a ridiculous idea. They may have shot themselves in the foot just as the sport was gaining huge popularity again.
Though with evening out the budgets etc we might see more decent racing...
But they're not.
Teams who adhere to the £30m per season limit are less restricted in terms of design etc. but teams who don't want to adhere to it for 2010 don't have to - they just don't get that benefit of lesser restrictions on certain elements.
If anything, that's going to make the sport even more absurd.
Formula One looks set to ditch controversial plans to award the championship to the driver who wins most races after the governing FIA performed a late U-turn.
"If, for any reason, the Formula One teams do not now agree with the new system, its implementation will be deferred until 2010," FIA said in a statement.
The Formula One Teams' Association had earlier accused the FIA of acting outside the rules when it decided to change the points scoring system at a meeting in Paris.
FOTA added that the teams had "unanimously agreed to question the validity of this decision".
"It is too late for FIA to impose a change for the 2009 season that has not obtained the unanimous agreement of all the competitors properly entered into the 2009 Formula One Championship," the statement added.
FOTA had proposed changing the scoring structure to a 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 points format from the existing 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 but the FIA's world motor sport council rejected that.
The FIA said the `winner takes all' proposal, which was subsequently approved, had been put forward by commercial rights holder Bernie Ecclestone after he told the sport's governing body the teams were in favour of it.
FOTA said teams were prepared to work with the FIA to devise a new system for the 2010 season.
The rule change received a mixed reaction when it was announced. World champion Lewis Hamilton said he had doubts about the new system.
"I think it's a shame what's happening to Formula One," said the 24-year-old Briton in a statement.
"It's hard to believe that these recent decisions will improve things for the trackside spectators and TV viewers, who should always be our number one priority, but I guess we'll have to wait and see."
Source (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/20032009/58/fia-set-scrap-new-points-system.html)
Its only first practice but:
Williams driver Nico Rosberg clocked the fastest laps of both practice sessions as the new Formula 1 season burst into life in Melbourne.
Toyota, Brawn GP and Williams - who all fought off a Thursday protest about the legality of their cars - shone the brightest on an intriguing afternoon.
England's Lewis Hamilton, the world champion, struggled in his McLaren to finish 16th then 18th.
Red Bull put in a strong second session while Ferrari had a mixed day.
Ahead of the richly-anticipated opening action of the 2009 season, motorsport's governing body, the FIA, had rejected a protest made by Ferrari, Red Bull and Renault about the legality of a key part at the back of the cars used by Williams, Brawn GP and Toyota.
It had been claimed their rear diffusers do not conform to new F1 regulations, but stewards rejected the complaint.
And it was those cars that were fastest around Melbourne's Albert Park street circuit, with the traditionally more successful teams suffering.
In the first session, Rosberg came through to take the fastest time - one minute 26.687 seconds - from Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonen on his last lap of 19, while team-mate Kazuki Nakajima finished second.
The German ran even quicker in the second session, clocking 1:26.053, while Japan's Nakajima finished up seventh.
New team Brawn GP also backed up their impressive performance in testing with a strong showing.
The former Honda team led by owner Ross Brawn were tipped as pre-race favourites and, on this early showing, there is every indication that may be justified.
Veteran Rubens Barrichello, at 37 the oldest driver on the grid, finished fourth and second in the respective sessions with a fastest time of 1:26.157.
England's Jenson Button - widely identified as the pre-race favourite by bookies - finished sixth and fifth with a fastest time of 1:26.374.
:huh:
Foxhound
28-03-2009, 07:04
I've never seen a F1 car having so few sponsors. I'm talking about the Brawn team.
I hope that Vettel does well this year. I'm impressed with his performances last year.
Yeah I like Vettel. Only a matter of time I feel before a move to a bigger team.
Button on pole? This Brawn car must have nitro boosts.
I like Button, he's got this coolness about him. I hope he does well this year.
I like Button, he's got this coolness about him. I hope he does well this year.
He's not a spoilt, arrogant fuckwit which is nice. Come on Ferrari! :faceplm:
Yeah Button is easily one of the most likeable guys in F1. Glad to see he's going to be able to challenge this year.
Any chance of getting a betting event up for who will win the Championship?
Foxhound
28-03-2009, 14:17
Quite disappointed with Ferrari's result. Ah well, at least Mclaren had a poorer result.
AgentZero
28-03-2009, 23:07
I've never seen a F1 car having so few sponsors. I'm talking about the Brawn team.
I hope that Vettel does well this year. I'm impressed with his performances last year.
Virigin signed with them and i have a feeling after Australia the livery will feature a HUGE virgin logo.
So far im lovin the regulation changes as its made qualifying exciting and packed the bunch up a little.
Hamilton could start at 20 as hes needs to fix his gearbox or something,
Hamilton will start 18th after his gearbox change (which initially demoted him to 20th), but now the Toyotas' rear wing has been deemed illegal so they now start on the back row.
AgentZero
28-03-2009, 23:12
ahhh...well there you go. Webber looked surprisingly fast, lets hope they get the relaibility issues sorted. Place will go mad if Webber wins.
Raikkonen is fucking useless!! Ferrari should take the blame for Massa's end too. The Vettel/Kubica incident was ridiculous too.
Fantastic result for Brawn GP!
AgentZero
29-03-2009, 09:09
brawn GP inherited a terriffic result. Kubica looks well pissed off at Vettel, lets hope its the beginning of a new rivalry.
Foxhound
29-03-2009, 09:39
Raikkonen is fucking useless!! Ferrari should take the blame for Massa's end too. The Vettel/Kubica incident was ridiculous too.
Fantastic result for Brawn GP!
Yeah. Ferrari had the same problem last year -> reliability, and it looks like it will remain the same this year.
Vettel didn't do anything wrong, in my opinion.
What a result for Brawn! And what about Hamilton! How did he manage that!
I look forward to watching the race this afternoon, now.
AgentZero
29-03-2009, 10:11
Yeah. Ferrari had the same problem last year -> reliability, and it looks like it will remain the same this year.
Vettel didn't do anything wrong, in my opinion.
i think he did. Kubica had the line because he braked early, didnt yield
mattlarge
29-03-2009, 11:00
Vettel looked for a gap which wasnt really there, but Kubica turned into him, so its 6 of one and half-a-dozen of the other.
Pleased for Button to get only his 2nd ever GP win. This Brawn car looks like being awesome this season. Really pleased for Hamilton too, starting 18th, 3rd place is a great result.
So Alonso has got 5th place now because Trulli got sanctioned. I find this sport a bit of a joke at times.
What a result for Brawn! And what about Hamilton! How did he manage that!
I look forward to watching the race this afternoon, now.
By being a fucking cunt that's how. He did nothing special and the deployment of the safety car the first time around aided him. Being so far back, he was out of the way when accidents occurred.
Vettel looked for a gap which wasnt really there, but Kubica turned into him, so its 6 of one and half-a-dozen of the other.
Vettel was in the braking zone so its Kubica's fault for not giving him enough room. It was too late to close the door.
It'll be very interesting to see how the "diffuser" hearing in April affects the results of this race and Malaysia next week. I think the Kers system is pretty stupid along with the tyres having to be 2 treads apart. Much more tactical nonense going on and less proper racing.
It'll be very interesting to see how the "diffuser" hearing in April affects the results of this race and Malaysia next week. I think the Kers system is pretty stupid along with the tyres having to be 2 treads apart. Much more tactical nonense going on and less proper racing.
I think the view with KERS is to aid the money-saving aspects of the current changes. Weighs far too much in my view though.
I'll be absolutely gutted if the rear diffuser on the cars in question is found to be illegal as it'll shift the balance directly into favour of Ferrari, McLaren and BMW making things predictable again.
I think the view with KERS is to aid the money-saving aspects of the current changes. Weighs far too much in my view though.
Apparently Williams are making one that won't weigh anything.
Sebastian Vettel has been demoted 10 grid places for next weekend's Malaysian Grand Prix after his late crash with Robert Kubica in Melbourne.
Harsh.
When did Hamilton overtake Trulli btw? When I checked on the racetrack Trulli was ahead (this was when Rosberg was being overtaken by them). Then a couple of laps later when the safety car's out, Trulli is ahead but apparently Hamilton was supposed to be infront? :unsure:
Harsh.
When did Hamilton overtake Trulli btw? When I checked on the racetrack Trulli was ahead (this was when Rosberg was being overtaken by them). Then a couple of laps later when the safety car's out, Trulli is ahead but apparently Hamilton was supposed to be infront? :unsure:
Hamilton supposedly overtook Trulli after the safety car came out so had to yield the position. Not that it mattered in the end.
nikicampos
29-03-2009, 20:35
I guess he over took him in the lap before the safety car, then, Trulli was found guilt of passing Lewis Hamilton whilst behind the safety car and was giving a 25 second penalty dropping him to 12th place, that's why Hamilton has 6 point now.
Toyota’s Jarno Trulli has lost his third place in Sunday’s Australian Grand Prix after stewards penalized him for passing under the safety car in the closing laps.
Trulli ran off road near the end of the race, thus losing a place to McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton, but then repassed the world champion once he had rejoined the circuit.
What a great race, glad to see that we will have a lot more teams trying to win the championship, great result for Hamilton, he got there with luck and good driving, amazing result for Brawn, i bet they wont have problems finding sponsors now.
Sebastian Vettel has been demoted 10 grid places for next weekend's Malaysian Grand Prix after his late crash with Robert Kubica in Melbourne.
What the fuck it's wrong with the stewards i think if someone has to pay for the mistake is Kubica, not Vettel, although i think none should be, it was a simple race crash of two cars trying to get the position, that's it, Vettel was in his line, and Kubica tried to get infront of him, Vettel had no where to go, both cars out and that's it, i feel sorry for Vettel.
Was it just down to the crash or the fact he kept driving with his damaged car?, as there supposed to exit the course immediately.
nikicampos
29-03-2009, 21:08
According to this no, it was because of the crash.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/3/9098.html
Vettel penalised and fined for Kubica collision.
Red Bull’s Sebastian Vettel has been handed a 10-place grid penalty for next weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix following an incident in Sunday’s Australian race. Vettel collided with BMW Sauber’s Robert Kubica during the latter stages in Melbourne as the Polish driver attempted to overtake him.
Following a post-race investigation, stewards decided to penalise the young German for 'causing a collision and forcing a driver off the track’. He had been racing in second, behind eventual race victor Jenson Button, with Kubica running a close third.
mattlarge
29-03-2009, 21:17
Vettel has been punished for the accident, Red Bull were fined for letting him continue down the track with 3 wheels.....
The way I see it, and most of the commentators did too for that matter, was that Kubica had the position going into the corner, and yes he didnt do himself any favours by turning straight in as if Vettel wasnt there, but Vettel was never going to get around the corner ahead of Kubica anyway, and he broke very early for the corner, shifting the advantage even more to Kubica.
Either way, both came out with nothing.
Im pleased as a Renault fan that Alonso finished 5th, although Renault havnt looked competitive all weekend, Piquet was doing quietly well until he gassed the cold brakes.
AgentZero
29-03-2009, 22:30
was a laugh seeing that red bull with 3 wheels
I'm happy for Buemi, I can't believe the stick he got after the friday practices. But he kept a cool head and drove a solid race when other more experienced drivers threw away points.
Didn't plan on watching this... glad i did though. Might be the first interesting F1 season for some time... here's hoping, anyway.
nikicampos
30-03-2009, 04:44
^^^I guess you didn't watched the last 2 years, championships decided by 1 point, can't get any more exciting than that, and this year promise to be as good.
AgentZero
30-03-2009, 13:05
So i spent the whole day sick in my room and wasting time reading up F1 history. Must say these cars are IMO the best looking
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1089/14fw18.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=14fw18.jpg)
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9448/196720brabham20bt19.jpg (http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=196720brabham20bt 19.jpg)
esp love that Brabham one.
Yeah, I liked that Williams one. Also:
http://www.finecars.cc/typo3temp/GB/aae2a1ba4e.jpg
:huh:
http://pro.corbis.com/images/42-19404257.jpg?size=67&uid=%7BE13714EB-AA0E-4081-B71D-4CAD0E9A4795%7D
I always liked this one
http://www.in.gr/auto/agwnistika/big/in_Ayrton_Senna_12.jpg
Looks like a packet of Marlboro.
Foxhound
30-03-2009, 14:36
Harsh punishment on Vettel there.
Regarding the diffuser, I think it will be banned, and so, Hamilton will be awarded as the winner of the Australian GP.
AgentZero
30-03-2009, 22:14
I always liked this one
http://www.in.gr/auto/agwnistika/big/in_Ayrton_Senna_12.jpg
Looks like a packet of Marlboro.
Agreed, with one of the greatest in there. But whats the deal with F1 and sponsorship from Tobacco and alcohol companies? I swear i saw a Malboro symbol on Ferrari and dont know if McLaren still have Johnny walker
nikicampos
31-03-2009, 08:41
This is by far the greatest car ever, McLaren always has a nice looking car.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6387/formula11.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/733/formula12.jpg
Looks like a pack of cigarettes.
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Looks like a packet of Marlboro.
Looks like a pack of cigarettes.
:cool:
:D Didn't even read your message, great minds think alike :cool: :naughty:
AgentZero
31-03-2009, 22:16
do you guys have the urge to buy a packet of malboros?
Nicest had to be the 6-wheel tyrell...
Although a Marlboro wouldn't go amiss right now.
So Toyota aren't going to appeal the decision to punish Jarno Trulli as it appears that no matter what, the decision can't be overturned. However, the FIA may re-open the investigation at the Malaysian GP this weekend as it is claimed (and it sounds fucking right to me too) that Hamilton purposely slowed down to force Trulli to pass him under the safety car.
The fact is, its exactly the kind of shitty thing you'd expect Hamilton to do. The fucking cock.
nikicampos
02-04-2009, 03:41
^^^LOL, yeah, blame it on the champion, Trulli had to be more careful, now it's Hamilton's fault, what a laugh, this seems to me like a little kid who know he is guilty, why Toyota is not appealing, well, because Trulli and Toyota know they can't win, if in fact Hamilton slowed down, and Trulli couldn't find anything else to do as he has said, then why didn't he gave his position back, he thought he could fool the whole world, but no, he got caught, maybe that's why he didn't looked so happy at the podium, guilt.
AgentZero
02-04-2009, 05:17
So Toyota aren't going to appeal the decision to punish Jarno Trulli as it appears that no matter what, the decision can't be overturned. However, the FIA may re-open the investigation at the Malaysian GP this weekend as it is claimed (and it sounds fucking right to me too) that Hamilton purposely slowed down to force Trulli to pass him under the safety car.
The fact is, its exactly the kind of shitty thing you'd expect Hamilton to do. The fucking cock.
Not im saying you're one eyed but maybe....maybe Hamilton thought it was the correct thing to do to give back the spot he took from Trulli when he went wide.
07:36
^^^LOL, yeah, blame it on the champion, Trulli had to be more careful, now it's Hamilton's fault, what a laugh, this seems to me like a little kid who know he is guilty, why Toyota is not appealing, well, because Trulli and Toyota know they can't win, if in fact Hamilton slowed down, and Trulli couldn't find anything else to do as he has said, then why didn't he gave his position back, he thought he could fool the whole world, but no, he got caught, maybe that's why he didn't looked so happy at the podium, guilt.
Ignorant. Toyota aren't appealing because they can't overturn a 25-second penalty just like McLaren couldn't last season. Learn the rules. Trulli also wouldn't give the position back because he'd had no choice but to overtake Hamilton AND given the nature of the end of the race couldn't just give one place back as the whole pack were bunched.
Shouldn't need to point any of that out to you :rolleyes:
I mean, we are dealing with a team who were happy to steal data and then claim Ferrari were making it up until being given a punishment that never fit their crime. I do recall the plank laying into Ferrari claiming McLaren would never do such a thing and then never apologising for it. The cap fits, just a case of whether where this has come from turns out to be a reliable source or not.
Not im saying you're one eyed but maybe....maybe Hamilton thought it was the correct thing to do to give back the spot he took from Trulli when he went wide.
The radio traffic is what's being investigated. Hamilton "told a reporter he did it on purpose" although one single reporter doesn't exactly carry much weight in my eyes and the FIA wouldn't re-open an investigation over the basis of just that.
11:18
Mwahahaha. I'll expect an apology nikicampos. If you're a decent human being, that is. If you're not, you'll somehow claim this is Ferrari bias even though it has had nothing to do with them at any stage.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/5093115/Lewis-Hamilton-stripped-of-podium-at-Australian-GP-by-FIA.html
Foxhound
02-04-2009, 11:25
Mwahahaha. I'll expect an apology nikicampos. If you're a decent human being, that is. If you're not, you'll somehow claim this is Ferrari bias even though it has had nothing to do with them at any stage.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/5093115/Lewis-Hamilton-stripped-of-podium-at-Australian-GP-by-FIA.html
:lol: That news made my day.
Seems to be so many races being decided after the race has actually happened nowadays. Can we just go back to normal racing. The sport is becoming such a farce.
If Hamilton and McLaren have broken the rules then the punishment is fair.
Buemi has more points than McLaren, Ferrari and BMW combined! :lol:
AgentZero
02-04-2009, 13:41
early days to be excited about Buemi. Even though he drove pretty well.
Contrary to McLaren's denial, the FIA late on Thursday insisted the team and Lewis Hamilton misled the stewards during an inquiry at Albert Park last Sunday.
The reigning world champion has been disqualified from the results of the event, having told the stewards that Jarno Trulli illegally overtook him under the safety car towards the end of the Melbourne race.
A statement issued by the FIA reveals that stewards asked Hamilton and Team Manager David Ryan 'specifically' whether the British driver was instructed to allow Trulli's Toyota to pass him.
"Both the driver and the Team Manager stated that no such instruction had been given," the FIA said.
"The Race Director specifically asked Hamilton whether he had consciously allowed Trulli to overtake. Hamilton insisted that he had not done so," the statement added.
Also released by the governing body on Thursday was a recording of a post-race media interview, in which Hamilton admitted that McLaren told him to let Trulli pass.
The FIA also published audio and text transcripts of radio conversations between Hamilton and the pitwall, where the team told its driver: "Allow the Toyota through now."
The FIA said the stewards feel "strongly that they had been misled" by Hamilton and McLaren "which led to Jarno Trulli being unfairly penalised and Lewis Hamilton gaining third place."
Further punishments range from a reprimand to exclusion but though the latter is deserved for standing by as another team and driver were wrongly reprimanded, they deserve to be thrown out of the Championship.
FutebolArte
03-04-2009, 16:03
lyin louie... tsc tsc tsc...
Foxhound
03-04-2009, 16:43
Ferrari got a 1-2 in the second practice today.
AgentZero
03-04-2009, 23:13
lyin louie... tsc tsc tsc...
theyve sacked the sporting director for advising Lewis to lie. Hes just a puppet really.
theyve sacked the sporting director for advising Lewis to lie. Hes just a puppet really.
Hold on, McLaren come out and say that and you automatically believe it? After everything else they've done up until now? :chanlaugh:
I'm also calling out nikifuckingcampos who didn't have the bollocks to come back into this thread when he was last online and apologise to me for the latest of his pathetic posts in this thread. Learn some respect. Funny how he was also MIA during McLaren's dismal qualifying for the Australian GP.
Seems like the sporting director was maybe slightly more to blame but Hamilton was stupid to go along with it and rightly got punished. Any further punishment would probably be justifiable unfortunately.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_5138644,00.html
Button on pole again, congratulations to him. Ferrari need a slap and a half.
Foxhound
04-04-2009, 14:20
Another poor performance from Ferrari.
FutebolArte
04-04-2009, 14:45
theyve sacked the sporting director for advising Lewis to lie. Hes just a puppet really.
you mean he's got a hand up his ass???
mattlarge
04-04-2009, 19:54
If this is one of Piquets favourite tracks, I hope he puts in a good performance in the race. He has been well off Alonsos pace for the last 2 seasons, and yes Alonso is one of the best in the pack, but if Piquets wants to be driving for Renault, he needs to kick up his performances a few gears.
nikicampos
04-04-2009, 21:50
07:36
Ignorant. Toyota aren't appealing because they can't overturn a 25-second penalty just like McLaren couldn't last season. Learn the rules. Trulli also wouldn't give the position back because he'd had no choice but to overtake Hamilton AND given the nature of the end of the race couldn't just give one place back as the whole pack were bunched.
Shouldn't need to point any of that out to you :rolleyes:
I mean, we are dealing with a team who were happy to steal data and then claim Ferrari were making it up until being given a punishment that never fit their crime. I do recall the plank laying into Ferrari claiming McLaren would never do such a thing and then never apologising for it. The cap fits, just a case of whether where this has come from turns out to be a reliable source or not.
The radio traffic is what's being investigated. Hamilton "told a reporter he did it on purpose" although one single reporter doesn't exactly carry much weight in my eyes and the FIA wouldn't re-open an investigation over the basis of just that.
11:18
Mwahahaha. I'll expect an apology nikicampos. If you're a decent human being, that is. If you're not, you'll somehow claim this is Ferrari bias even though it has had nothing to do with them at any stage.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/5093115/Lewis-Hamilton-stripped-of-podium-at-Australian-GP-by-FIA.html
And you just keep on trashing Mclaren you stupid cunt, please don't comment on my post, that's why you banned me last time, because you think you know all the answers but clearly, you don't.
And you just keep on trashing Mclaren you stupid cunt, please don't comment on my post, that's why you banned me last time, because you think you know all the answers but clearly, you don't.
Such language is an automatic sending off, as you know from doing so previously.
I know a hell of a lot more than you do and am quite CLEARLY not saying anything against McLaren or Hamilton that isn't, so so obviously, fully deserved. As this isn't your first such offence, enjoy the prolonged time away from this forum.
Anyone with sense knows who the real cunt is.
Next time, keep turning up when your team have been exposed for lying and cheating or are performing poorly. You're probably nothing more than a glory hunter, following McLaren when they're at the front of the grid and ignoring them when they're not.
AgentZero
05-04-2009, 08:00
saw the Fight for Victory documentary of Damon's 1996 WC. Good watch and it was unfortunate Frank didnt extend his contract.
Foxhound
05-04-2009, 11:10
That's the first time that I've seen a red flag being deployed. I always thought it was weird to start the race at 5 PM, local time. It usually starts around 12 or 1 PM in the past.
Massa looked pissed.
EDIT @1825: the weather is getting slightly better but the sun is setting, so I doubt that they will be able to finish the race.
Ferrari made some absurd decisions and we need to sort ourselves out VERY quickly!
Good drives so far from Button, Glock and Heidfeld. I'm half expecting this to restart.
EDIT: Restart coming...
EDIT 2: Restart not coming...
Foxhound
05-04-2009, 11:55
The win is up there with Schumacher's US Grand Prix, the one where only teams using Bridgestone tyre raced.
As a Ferrari fan I loved that US race because no direct rivals were left and it was a Ferrari 1-2. For racing it was another dark day though as fuck all racing happened.
The win is up there with Schumacher's US Grand Prix, the one where only teams using Bridgestone tyre raced.
We had an hour of good racing here at least.
"Lap 23: Kimi Raikkonen tells his team he's in bother. Not surprising. It's an epic fail from Ferrari - but a brave gamble."
Good summary. :lol:
Foxhound
05-04-2009, 13:13
"Lap 23: Kimi Raikkonen tells his team he's in bother. Not surprising. It's an epic fail from Ferrari - but a brave gamble."
Good summary. :lol:
Instead of sitting down on his ass like most driver did during the race was stopped, he went to the pit and ate an ice-cream :lol:
I heard the commentator said that Button will only get 5 points.
Everyone gets half points because the race didn't reach 75% of its full distance.
I lol'd at Haimlton not realising he was classified seventh and not fifth.
Massa and Raikkonen need to improve quickly. This isn't like previous years where Ferrari and McLaren could, as Eddie Jordan said, spend their way out of trouble. Ferrari need a rear diffuser similar to that of Brawn and Toyota.
mattlarge
05-04-2009, 14:02
Pee'd off that Renault got two finishes but no points.
Alonso had a fantastic start, shame he was running heavy or he could have kept the pace of the front runners.
Good victory for Button, shame its only half points though.
Has Kovalainen finished a lap yet?
CaptainCabinet
05-04-2009, 14:04
I lol'd at Haimlton not realising he was classified seventh and not fifth.
This made my Sunday.
If this rear diffuser is making all the difference, and is legal, why don't the other teams get one?
Has Kovalainen finished a lap yet?
Nope.
If this rear diffuser is making all the difference, and is legal, why don't the other teams get one?
They're contesting its legality at a court appeal next week but Martin Brundle seems to think they'll need to do a hell of a lot in order to change the decision given that its already been ruled on once by the FIA.
They're contesting its legality at a court appeal next week but Martin Brundle seems to think they'll need to do a hell of a lot in order to change the decision given that its already been ruled on once by the FIA.
Do you think when it's confirmed that it's legal, which is looking likely, other teams will surely look into getting one themselves?
And another thing, great goal Palombo!!!:w00t
EDIT I fucking knew it once I posted that they'd equalise!!!
Do you think when it's confirmed that it's legal, which is looking likely, other teams will surely look into getting one themselves?
And another thing, great goal Palombo!!!:w00t
EDIT I fucking knew it once I posted that they'd equalise!!!
:chanlaugh:
The other teams are reportedly already making progress with developing their own - and they need to do so pretty fast.
Kevthedrummer
05-04-2009, 15:00
As a neutral, it's very good to see Button doing well. But I am also very surprised at the number of anti Hamilton/pro ferrari people on here...
What's the deal? Why do you like them so much? To me they have no likability factor about them? Massa is a sore loser and has the face of a spoilt brat most of the time... And Mclaren lying is ridiculous too, the idiots.
pff i dunno. Good entertainment, but usually ruined later in the week
As a neutral, it's very good to see Button doing well. But I am also very surprised at the number of anti Hamilton/pro ferrari people on here...
What's the deal? Why do you like them so much? To me they have no likability factor about them? Massa is a sore loser and has the face of a spoilt brat most of the time... And Mclaren lying is ridiculous too, the idiots.
pff i dunno. Good entertainment, but usually ruined later in the week
Er Massa isn't a sore loser, although Raikkonen is a moody shit. "Cool" as it was for him to go and get an ice cream and say he wouldn't take part in the restart, its not at all professional and I don't want him driving for the team. I'm part-Italian and therefore you'd expect me to love Ferrari which I do.
What is there to like about McLaren exactly? A team which has stolen data from a competitor and now, regardless of how they twist it, instructed their driver to lie and allow an innocent team and driver to suffer a penalty which was thankfully overturned.
Button is a driver who won't become an arrogant cunt if his success continues unlike Hamilton who very early on showed what an absolute dick he is and keeps on getting worse.
The apology for lying which he made the other day is frankly farcical. He doesn't give two shits and if he's going to cry about being called a cheat which is precisely what he is, excuse me for not caring. I mean honestly, all but one of his fellow drivers doesn't like him and they're hardly jealous - Schumacher never had it to that extent even in his "robotic" days.
EDIT: nikicampos gets a further two week ban for trying to re-register.
If Ferrari had stuck Kimi on inters instead of full wets he could have been in with a shout of winning. Glock was brilliant, first one on inters and then when everyone switched to inters, he came in for full wets and got himself second place. Brilliant decision making. Alonso's start was utterly ridiculous and brilliant for such a heavy car. Button reminded me a bit of Schumacher doing the business while his rivals were on outlaps. The race was rather dissappointing, I was still wanting more carnage from the rain.
Moment of the day had to be Ferrari's communications man telling everyone they'll be racing and 2 minutes later you see Kimi with a magnum and a can of coke. :D
The race was rather dissappointing, I was still wanting more carnage from the rain.
I know what you mean. It may have just been because of the pictures, but it didn't look anywhere near as bad as they were making out. Nurburgring a couple of years ago had parts of the track completely submerged in water. I'm happy with the result; it would have been a real kick in the teeth had one of the Brawns or Toyotas aquaplaned into the wall.
Why did Hamilton even think he was 5th? He was 6th before they revised it and bumped up Webber to that position and Hamilton down to 7th.
I know what you mean. If may have just been because of the pictures, but it didn't look anyway near as bad as they were making out. Nurburgring a couple of years ago had parts of the track completely submerged in water. I'm happy with the result; it would have been a real kick in the teeth had one of the Brawns or Toyotas aquaplaned into the wall.
Aye, I can't remember the exact race but there were 4 cars aquaplaning off at the same corner and there was no contact between them at all. Then you see everyone coming into the pits and the teams are struggling to stick wet tyres on both cars and before its had time to sort itself out, theres a fucking Minardi leading the race.
Aye, I can't remember the exact race but there were 4 cars aquaplaning off at the same corner and there was no contact between them at all. Then you see everyone coming into the pits and the teams are struggling to stick wet tyres on both cars and before its had time to sort itself out, theres a fucking Minardi leading the race.
:chanlaugh:
It was manic. Spa in the 90s ranks way above that. This didn't look anywhere near as bad as those sorts of incidents.
:chanlaugh:
It was manic. Spa in the 90s ranks way above that. This didn't look anywhere near as bad as those sorts of incidents.
Spa 98 has to be the best race I've ever seen, 2 mental restart stramash's, Shumacher squaring up to Coulthard and it was in general brilliant to watch.
AgentZero
05-04-2009, 22:46
There were glimpses of brilliant racing from the coverage alone. Alonso and someone at the start, Webber and Lewis, Timo Glock on his inters.
Good to see F1 is enjoyable again...now all this post race politics has to go.
EDIT: I think that (Spa 1998) was Damon's last win.
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