Engalnd team

[lfc nut]

i thought id start this thread so that people can say wot they think bout the england team e.g there startin 11 , how they performed.

my startin 11 would b

GK james
RB G.Neville
CB Rio
CB Campbell
LB Cole
RM Beckham
CM Gerrard
CM Scholes
LM Dyer
CF Owen
CF Rooney

[Mumpleaser]

That's a good team in my opinion. I always worry a little though when I see James in goal!! He is our best option, but he just seems a little too adventurous and/or relaxed when he plays! The rest of the squad just ooze quality. I just don't know why we can't seem to win a major tournament. I think it must be a mental thing/organisation thing because the raw talent is there. Could it be the league schedule? The fact that they hardly ever get to meet up and play as a team?

You can have all the stars in the world, but if they don't know how to play together, it won't work.

F***in love England though! We may not have won anything for a while, but we are still very good.

[Zygalski]

That is pretty much the team I think is best too. Is that for a flat or diamond midfield?

Maybe Robinson will challenge for being keeper though as I think he is good and young (although I am a little biased by how great he is in PES2!).

I think England can do well when everyone plays well, such as beating Germany 5-1 and so on.
But they need to have everyone fully fit (unlike in WC02), especially Beckham, Owen and Gerrard. And maybe a left footed midfielder would improve the situation.

The average age of the team is quite low (now that Seaman and Sheringham are gone) so once more of them gain some European experience then the future should be bright.

I do think the English Premiership has too many teams in it and reducing the number (by maybe 3 or 4) would help England and the English teams in Europe a whole lot.

[Marshy]

GK James
RB G.Neville
CB Rio
CB Campbell
LB Bridge
RM Beckham
CM Parlour
CM Scholes
LM Gerrard
CF Defoe
CF Beattie

[Zygalski]

Maybe they are predictable in always playing 4-4-2.
How's this for an alternative?
Maybe it's more adaptable.


---------------------------------James-------------------------------

-----------------G. Neville------Ferdinand------Campbell---------------


------Dyer------------------------Butt-----------------------A. Cole--

-----------------Beckham----------------------Gerrard----------------


---------------------------------Scholes-------------------------------

---------------------Owen---------------------Rooney----------------

[Mumpleaser]

Isn't there a right back in the whole of England that is better then Gary Neville? He's always good in Man U, but always seems a little nervous(?) or unsure during England games.

Any ideas who can fill his boots?

[Gooner_Harmer]

Originally posted by Zygalski
Maybe they are predictable in always playing 4-4-2.
How's this for an alternative?
Maybe it's more adaptable.


---------------------------------James-------------------------------

-----------------J. Terry------Ferdinand------Campbell---------------


------Beckham------------------Butt-----------------------A. Cole--

-----------------------Dyer----------------------Gerrard----------------


---------------------------------Scholes-------------------------------

---------------------Owen--------------------Vassel----------------

My team is slightly different to yours.

[Mumpleaser]

Good to see Butt in there. He is a highly underrated player that does well in almost every match he plays in.

I am also a Vassel fan mostly because I love his speed. He is a lot faster than Owen and Rooney put together.

Is J.Terry really good enough to start for England? Not a statement, just a question!

[Zygalski]

I do agree with the use of Terry or another CB who is either good or playing well.

It would be good to play any 2 out of Owen, Vassell and Rooney with the odd one coming on as sub and causing panic for the opposition.

I don't think Beckham can play at wing back any more.
He is more useful at getting in those through balls and crosses which is why he would do better in the middle.
Plus if he is running up and down all the time, he will be less effective at what he does best (passing and kicking people!).

Someone like O'Shea could play wing back on the right so who is English and like that? Parlour maybe?

This formation brings up another problem, doesn't it?!

[Gooner 4 Life]

Englands best team would be:

Robinson

Mills Terry Campbell Cole

Joe Cole Gerrard Dyer

Scholes

Rooney Owen


Great combination of youth and experience, and also alot of class.

[lfc nut]

no rio or beckham ? interestin ;)

[Zygalski]

Maybe he don't like United.
Lucky Scholes got in then!

Not sure about Mills though.

[lfc nut]

lol mayb he dont

i wouldnt pick mills either but thats just my opinion :)

[Phatmann2003]

GK:Robinson
RB:G.Neville
LB:Barry
CB:Terry
CB:Ferdinand
RM:Beckham
LM:Jenas
CM:Scholes
CM:Gerrard
CF:Owen
CF:Vassell

[Zygalski]

Need some replacements for my team up in the 5th post.
Terry in for Neville.

Jenas in for Dyer? Or who else there?

[Gooner 4 Life]

The reason I didnt put Rio in is because I dont think hes earnt his place. His form this year for united hasnt been 30m worth,.

[Zygalski]

Rio was an automatic choice for most people, however well or badly he was playing for Leeds.

He has contributed to improving United's defence from 'very dodgy' to 'very dodgy but the best in the league table'.

He may not be worth that much but that was only the amount Leeds were willing to sell him for so you either take it or leave it.
He is at a good age and with more potential yet so it was a good gamble to take.

Would you say Buffon is worth his value?

[Gooner 4 Life]

Buffon is easily worth his value. He has saved them so many times, won them cups, got them to finals, that hes probably made more money for Juventus than they paid for him. Hes class.

[Zygalski]

Would have expected him to do better on Wednesday night though.
I'm not sure about this but how was his World Cup?

[Gooner 4 Life]

How could Buffon do any bettr on wednesday, he made a world class save from Inzaghi, didnt conceede in normal time, + saved 2 pens, what more do you want!

[lfc nut]

buffon is well worth his value ! and i thought he was supurb in the final

[real11]

Best keeper by far

[Zygalski]

It could be argued that Dida was the better keeper in the final as he did better in the penalty shoot-out.
He wasn't bad for his value.

What more do I want? To win the match maybe?

[real11]

Dida is a great penalty saver but overall is still way behind Gigi

[Voltz]

Yeah but Buffon still isn't worth that much! It's ridiculous, no one is worth that much, but especially a goalkeeper when you can still get a good quality goalkeeper fairly cheap who is young and can get better. All that money they spent on Buffon could of gone into improving other things at the club, which may have helped them to win the Champions League!

[Gooner 4 Life]

Yeah but Buffon still isn't worth that much! It's ridiculous, no one is worth that much, but especially a goalkeeper when you can still get a good quality goalkeeper fairly cheap who is young and can get better. All that money they spent on Buffon could of gone into improving other things at the club, which may have helped them to win the Champions League!

Buffon is a young keeper. Juventus didntt really need that much when they bought buffon only a keeper. And waste of money, coming from a spurs fan whos team spent 8.5m on a 28 year old poor defender and 4m on a 30+ poor german. Look at ur own team 1st.

[Zygalski]

Gooner 4 Life, someone else is allowed to have an opinion without having to be ridiculed about the status of their own team.
Try to stick to the point being made.

If you need to change the subject like that, it suggests you don't have much of a case for defending your point of view which I don't believe.

You began by making a good point but went downhill by choosing to attack rather than defend.

[Gooner 4 Life]

like kevin keegan

[rebusrahman]

Originally posted by Zygalski
Maybe they are predictable in always playing 4-4-2.
How's this for an alternative?
Maybe it's more adaptable.


---------------------------------James-------------------------------

-----------------G. Neville------Ferdinand------Campbell---------------


------Dyer------------------------Butt-----------------------A. Cole--

-----------------Beckham----------------------Gerrard----------------


---------------------------------Scholes-------------------------------

---------------------Owen---------------------Rooney----------------

I must agree with this team, Zygalski. We're sure to beat anyone...especially if we're fielding 12 players!!!!

[real11]

Originally posted by Voltz
Yeah but Buffon still isn't worth that much! It's ridiculous, no one is worth that much, but especially a goalkeeper when you can still get a good quality goalkeeper fairly cheap who is young and can get better. All that money they spent on Buffon could of gone into improving other things at the club, which may have helped them to win the Champions League!

No player is worth what Juve paid for Buffon but they paid it. His value should not be held against him as " for the worlds most expensive keeper......he should be the best". This can be laid at Ferdinand, Crespo, Mendieta, Veron, Heskey, Collymore......
The fees paid were surely due to the selling clubs' wise dealings.

[Mumpleaser]

Yeah, get rid of Butt and we've got a lean mean attacking machine! But then we'll only have a 3 man defence. Can that be done?!!

Ask Sven!:p

[rebusrahman]

Reckon that I would keep Butt and jettison Gerrard for the time being going on form. Also would play 4-4-2 and have a tight-ish diamond. But England need to have 3 formations that they can rotate with at will. El Tel's Xmas tree, the above and 3-5-2 for my money. But we've never really been comfortable with 3 CBs

[Zygalski]

Oh well, my master plan for england success has been spoilt by those damned kids again.
Well-spotted.

OK then, take out Dyer and shuffle Cole back into a back 4.
Sorted.

[rebusrahman]

Still not sure on Gerrard due to current form and maybe a suspect attitude at the mo

[Adriano49]

i thought id start this thread so that people can say wot they think bout the england team e.g there startin 11 , how they performed.

my startin 11 would b

GK james
RB G.Neville
CB Rio
CB Campbell
LB Cole
RM Beckham
CM Gerrard
CM Scholes
LM Dyer
CF Owen
CF Rooney

Compare that team to the current team
Im sure with englands team now they cna win the world cup, they are top quality
And England having Player of the year Lampard :D

[Dan]

your about 2 years to late mate:(

[Cannon ball]

This should be Englands team:

3 5 2 Formation

GK:James

CB:Ferdinand

CB:Campbell

CB:Terry

RM:Wright-Philips

CM:Beckham or Butt

CM:Gerrard

OM:Lampard

LM:A. Cole or J. Cole

CF:defoe

CF:Rooney

[robertprosser]

GK Cudicini he his now qualified to play for england
RB G.Neville
CB Rio
CB Campbell
LB Cole
RM Beckham
CM Gerrard
CM Lampard
LM Scholes
CF Owen
CF Rooney

[Phatmann2003]

GK: Robinson
RB: Gary Neville
LB: Ashley Cole
CB: Terry
CB: Ferdinand
RM: Beckham
LM: Joe Cole
CM: Gerrard
CM: Lampard
CF: Rooney
CF: Owen

[Jonny2J]

GK: Robinson
RB: Neville
LB: Cole
CB: Woodgate
CB: Ferdinand
RM: Wright-Phillips
CM: Lampard
CM: Gerrard
LM: Downing
CF: Owen
CF: Rooney