What would you like to see in Pro Evo 2009 ???

[laddybookoat]

For me i would like to see online as good, as everyone says fifa is. More sponsers & teams also leagues, bring back the old creation mode for changing faces etc. Downloads such as transfers etc, better tackling and shooting............... thats all i can think of for now !!

[zapatistab]

Other than the obvious...I would like to see more teams that reflect the region the game is released. For example, MLS and or Mexican League teams for the North American Release.

Or one universal game that contains tons of teams. I think having a J-league team vs a Mexican League team would be a lot of fun with friends or online.

[PESFan92]

Theres already a thread like this::)

http://pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=56620 :rolleyes:

[Dante79]

more teams, better online play, realistic master league( I mean lets play the real leagues and not have teams all mixed up)

[freestyleh7]

LOL i have a wish list infact,

1: More Teams including the teams from lower divisions EXAMPLE: Championship Serie B

2: Official Nike Sponsor For PES 2009

3: Putting Logo's And Writing On Socks

4: Realistic master league (totally agree with dante)

5: A Feature to edit the new kits of licensed teams

6: Kit & Transfer Updates For Online play

7: Better Reaction from the commentators when a goal is scored

8: Reserve Team Players Can be added to the first team (Could Be Handy)

9: Better passing system

9: New Champions League Mode (Including The Official Champions League Ball)

10: last but not least a Classic team system that allows u to pick a past arsenal squad for example something like the 04-05 squad or the 96-97 squad

[lukas9]

I would like to see if you can play inside i would love that.And alot of new stadiums and nike balls and adidas

[Amateur]

What do I want to see in PES09??


Where do I start.. First thing I'd like to have are the Classic Players with their real faces. It's annoying to see Fernando Gago with his real face -while on the other hand- we have The Diego Armando Maradona with some random face.


Secondly, I'd like to see a more flexible Online play. For example I'd like to be able to play with my all-time XI during online play - that'll be awesome! playing with Maradona, Pele, Cruijff, etc, etc.. in the Online Leagues!


And of course, Konami must fix the Online Issues - it's embarrasing in comparison with FIFA's online play... and honestly, it is almost unplayable in Online Mode.


And I almost forgot - I'd like to have 4 New Dribbling Styles to go with the old 4 dribbling styles.


Other things I want to see in PES09 include - lots and lots of New Skills, the old:

Passing Accuracy
Passing Speed
Attack
Defence
Dribble Accuracy
Dribble Speed
Shot Accuracy
Shot Technique
Technique


The old PES Skills are simply to generic for next gen games. This are some of the New Skills I want to see in PES 2009:

1. Short Ground Pass
2. Short Lobbed Pass
3. Long Ground Pass
4. Long Lobbed Pass
5. Through Ball Technique
6. Tactical Awareness
7. Attacking Awareness
8. Defensive Awareness
9. Marking
10. Tackling
11. Sliding Tackle
12. Covering
13. Pressing
14. Defensive Composure
15. Finishing
16. Strength
17. Consistency
18. Step-Over
19. Pull-Back
20. Shielding
21. Flick Ball Up
22. Roulette
23. Nutmeg
24. Lane Change
25. Instep Drive Shot
26. Inside Foot Shot
27. Long Range Shot
28. Outside Foot Shot
29. Chip Shot


And that's about it, I'd like to see some 29 New Skills IN PES09. I want to see changes in the game play, more intuitive/instinctive dribbling, much better tackles, much better and consistent off-the-ball movement from all 11 players.. And as for the League names and Leagues available - honestly I'm ok with the Master League, my only request would be to add. the World Cup to the Master League.

[The Eristic]

Keep the first team limit in ML at 32ish (or maybe have the limit increase as your team becomes more popular and better funded), but allow maybe 15 spots for youth, injured players, and any other players designated as reserves. Optional reserve team games could be played (at the expense of time and fatigue) to develop younger players who might not be quite ready for first team football, and to ease players recovering from injury back into the game.

[cartoon]

GAMEPLAY.

Bring back

[tosi93]

if they cant get enough $$ to sponsor the EPL then screw it, dont sponsor serie a or netherlands league and get the EPL

also i want to be able to have some feature that lets you keep tabs on young players, like a scout would.

[The Eristic]

if they cant get enough $$ to sponsor the EPL then screw it, dont sponsor serie a or netherlands league and get the EPL

also i want to be able to have some feature that lets you keep tabs on young players, like a scout would.

FIFA has exclusive rights to the EPL for a few more years, at least. Besides, as much as I'd like to see the entire EPL in the game, it would be moving in the wrong direction to drop two other big leagues (especially one that nearly makes ML survivable by itself! Where would "WE United" be without cheap and willing Dutch youth that grow into monsters...) in order to pick up a single new one. If they'll just include full-featured editing tools on ALL platforms, it'll be tolerable till 2010 or whenever FIFA's license expires.

As to the second feature, could you elaborate? I mean, what would you like to see beyond "Search -> Quick Search -> Select by Future Potential -> Add to List" and the like?

[Goldbergio]

other than better crowd and pretty much everything else mentioned id like to see a better transfer window, i mean that in the sense of being able to offer players to clubs for both sale and loan. ive had plenty of players ive put up for transfer and nobody wants to know so im having to release them. its not like its crap players either there was ronald koeman and cruyff in there. plus i like to go down the top teams way of doing things i.e loaning out young players to lower clubs so they develop better and quicker

[initforthevi]

For me improvements to Master Leagues and kits etc are always secondary to actual improvements in gameplay. I may be one of the few people who don't really play Master League, I'll just go through a season in the league, that way I can edit or register players as I want.

I do find the gameplay improved in 2008 but would love them to improve the shooting so you can score curling efforts from 25 yards, at the moment nearly all my shots, however hard they're struck run along the ground and it looks stupid. If you try and shoot with R2 it's just never powerful enough and the lobs are crazily hard to pull off

Through balls are also difficult to do properly, long balls are OK though admittely difficult until you get the hang of R2

I find the Goalies are much better in this version but obviously the crowd is terrible and I have a real problem with the nets and lack of feeling when you scored coupled with the stupid referee blowing his whistle the minutes the ball crosses the line, can't we just have a ripple of the net with appropriate sound effect??? Replays are dodgy as hell as well, why did they change them, I can never get the angle I want whereas on the old versions it was so simple

So please Konami I would love more features and kits etc but if you have limited time and budget I would much prefer you to keep improving the gameplay - that's what we're all in it for, surely

[kryptic27]

i would jus love to see the old style of gameplay back for pes2009 becoz pes 2008 is a joke all you have to do is pick a team with fast players n ur damn near guaranteed to win this takes all the realism out of the game. i wud also like to have a full complete edit mode with everything editable becoz i dnt mind not having licensed teams n boots n stuff becoz i feel itz a part of the pes experience to be able edit some of the kits n boots n players urself and they should even put in an edit ball section where u can create ur own footballs since konami like to put shit balls in the game y not let us create our own. last but not least it wud be great if they put in an indoor match mode as other ppl have suggested and have indoor tournaments and leagues. there are plenty more things that could be done to make pes2009 go leaps and bounds beyond pes 2008 but itz up to konami to deliver i really hope they do otherwise the future of pes looks very dim.

[freestyleh7]

It makes FIFA 08 look better then PES 2008. Konami Get Off Your Backside !!

[laddybookoat]

Good points by all !!!

[Red Owl]

I would like some attention putting into the Master League for once. Since my first Pro Evo (PES5) the only change of note is the increase of all leagues to 20 teams. First of all, this makes D2 absolutely boring. And secondly, there's so much that could be improved.

- Reasons regarding transfers; I want to know WHY certain players reject me (even if it is just "Too low wages", "Too long/short a contract" or "Too low offer") so I can make an improved bid.
- Injuries to be slightly realistic. I've had one player miss a game due to injured in the past 3 or 4 seasons, I'd quite relish the challenge of having to improvise slightly with my squad.
- Different cups, D1 is useless and boring, it used to be my Youth Team cup until they made everyone's stamina shocking. The European Championship drags on a bit too. Introduce something like a Community Shield equivalent.
- Mid-season transfer window; it would be nice if you could have league games and transfers running parallel, like in the Premier League.
- Make loans more important. Over 4 different PES titles, I've sent out 3 players on loan, and loaned in none.
- Internationals; since Pro Evo originated from ISS Pro, which was only International teams, it seems disappointing that the only significance International games have on Master League is that about 2 players are missing once every 10 weeks. Possibly something like you can choose a country you can also control, and you select the squad and play the World Cup etc [bit far fetched that suggestion, but I'd love it. Ordaz for Spain!]


So to sum up, Konami should change:
- Something, ANYTHING!!!!

[The Eristic]

- Different cups, D1 is useless and boring, it used to be my Youth Team cup until they made everyone's stamina shocking. The European Championship drags on a bit too. Introduce something like a Community Shield equivalent.

Further, on Cups, how about making participation in cups for which your team qualifies optional? Honestly, if I've won the Championship AND D1 four times running, I really don't want to compete in both of them, especially since my team is in a youth development phase at the moment (The extra six cup matches in a six week period do little for the kids other than raise their fatigue, which raises another question: why don't cup matches aid in development as much as league matches? Cup ties are often against much better sides than league games.). I'd also like to be able to play in the UEFA Cup equivalent, but I'll have to actually throw matches to get into it, which is stupid.

I was also thinking about how ML needs three divisions or something, with D3 Leagues being made up of all the rest of the club teams. It would make the game a lot more challenging and involved, and would also make negotiations more realistic, as you would be able to try to trade for or loan in/out nearly every player in the game, instead of being forced to outright purchase players in non-league teams.

[Red Owl]

Further, on Cups, how about making participation in cups for which your team qualifies optional? Honestly, if I've won the Championship AND D1 four times running, I really don't want to compete in both of them, especially since my team is in a youth development phase at the moment (The extra six cup matches in a six week period do little for the kids other than raise their fatigue, which raises another question: why don't cup matches aid in development as much as league matches? Cup ties are often against much better sides than league games.). I'd also like to be able to play in the UEFA Cup equivalent, but I'll have to actually throw matches to get into it, which is stupid.

I was also thinking about how ML needs three divisions or something, with D3 Leagues being made up of all the rest of the club teams. It would make the game a lot more challenging and involved, and would also make negotiations more realistic, as you would be able to try to trade for or loan in/out nearly every player in the game, instead of being forced to outright purchase players in non-league teams.

I borrowed PES6 for the PSP off my mate, and that went down to D3, I think there were 8 teams in the league, then 10 ish in the D2 league and then 20 in D1. Perfect, with a few more teams maybe added.

[skyline19]

- Ronaldos free kick motion

- No more keeper assisted goals

- Better slide tackling

- Create your own league

- Premiership!

- Bundesliga in the game

- More nice footwork

- A realistic Master League

[wan109]

I would like a great Master League and a greater gameplay.
Instead of that, I don't mind.

[The Eristic]

How about Created Player Career ML? You create a player, then, playing fixed as that player, you have to get signed to a team and work your way up the ladder, till, by the end of your career, you're playing for one of the world's biggest clubs and trying to lead (or have already led) them to glory.

[laddybookoat]

Alot of good points and views about things they would like to see in Pro Evo 2009, i wonder if Konami ever check this site ??? :O

[SAMGRACE009]

I think we need to see more flexibility with editing.

[schouw234]

I think we need to see more flexibility with editing.

Many good things have been mentioned, here is something I think would make a big diffence:

More realistic defense: the backline works better together, they support eachother, and closes the dangerous areas. So you don't find the right back out on the sideline when the ball is in the box ect.

More realistic attack: the way they move and think, when they are offball

Master League improvements:
Especially the manager part, improve transfers and the way to make an offer. why they reject ect. No MAX of what you can offer if you got the money. real young talents would be nice as well. Konami could take a look at football manager, and maybe add som few things.

Penalty:
you should be able to shoot with the anside of the foot, which made the precision better, but as well eaisier for the goalier to save if he chooses the right side. So you can choose a precision or hard shot.

Goalkeepers: they should be smart enough not putting the ball into their own goal with the ball in their hands. It happens sometimes when they save it on the goal line. And they should be better on crosses.

League: when you play for.eaxmple Priemere League it should result in that you could enter Champions League or Uefa, and transfers should be availeble here as well.

Bundesliga, names ect. but not the most important, because it can be changes by oneselves

Gameplay: I have mentioned some gameplay things and I think konami would work to optimice it, so I do not think it is a think they will over see:)

If these things are changed it would be a much more realistic and fantastic game, and I hope some of these things will appear in the new game : )

[pegg007]

Apart from the obvious, i'd love to see the Bundesliga on there, preferably in replace of the Ligue One. The French league is so poor, Lyon dominate year in, year out and they're the only representatives in the Champions Leauge. Whereas the German League is up and coming, just look at Stuttgart this year, quarter finalists in the Champs League! Talents in that League such as Ribery, Diego, Van Ver Vaart, Podolski, Kompany etc need to be in their respective teams on PES09!

Anyone agree?

[Red Owl]

Apart from the obvious, i'd love to see the Bundesliga on there, preferably in replace of the Ligue One. The French league is so poor, Lyon dominate year in, year out and they're the only representatives in the Champions Leauge. Whereas the German League is up and coming, just look at Stuttgart this year, quarter finalists in the Champs League! Talents in that League such as Ribery, Diego, Van Ver Vaart, Podolski, Kompany etc need to be in their respective teams on PES09!

Anyone agree?

Bundesliga, definately. But why replace Ligue 1? PES shouldn't be so bad as to have to only accomodate a certain amount of leagues - look at FIFA it goes down to League 2 I believe.

[.:jester:.]

aint there alredy a million threads on this alredy? lol

[Red Owl]

aint there alredy a million threads on this alredy? lol

Don't think there's too many possible discussions for a Future PES forum...

[ehsank2]

i would like to see handball penalty after 7 years in pes 2009..and also agree with all.

[Shanealdo11]

I think all real team badges should be locked so you can then buy them in the PES shop, as well as sponsors and logos.

Kits can also be locked as well as players!!!

[Shanealdo11]

I think all real team badges should be locked so you can then buy them in the PES shop, as well as sponsors and logos.

Kits can also be locked as well as players!!!

and real team names and commentary

[Jess C]

Restructuring the Champions League (or King's Cup because I always change the name) is also a must if Konami want to revitalize the Master League.


#1 - I give you a scenario of eight random league and cup champions from four different leagues...

Manchester United - Arsenal
Juventus - AC Milan
Barcelona - Real Madrid
Bayern Munich - Werder Bremen

The idea of championship qualification (be they league or cup) fulfils the criteria of only competition winners qualifying for a Champions League place, maintaining its prestige while also adding importance to the domestic cup competitions, difficulty in qualification (limited spaces) and participation (teams like Ream Madrid and AC Milan trying to squeeze you out of their elite group). I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I'm sick of facing teams like Aston Villa and Middlesborough in a competition that's supposed to be 'reward' for the previous season's hard grafting. This format ensures a healthy rotation of top quality teams entering the competition to prevent the experience from going stale (e.g. Man United/Juventus/Barcelona/Bayern may win the League/Cup one season, Chelsea/Inter Milan/Valencia/Stuttgart the next) while the elimination of a qualification round means there's zero risk of an uneven ratio of teams-per-league. There’s no reason for domestic rivals to clash in the group stage.


#2 -Imagine them split into two groups of four (two league and cup champions per group) with two home and away legs in each tie...

Group A
Manchester United
AC Milan
Barcelona
Werder Bremen

Group B
Arsenal
Juventus
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich

Two groups provide an even distribution of quality throughout the competition. The quality of each side should break the predictability of knowing who’ll qualify from every group. The prospect of two home and away legs between each side (twelve matches for a single side - the same number any team plays en route to the semi-finals of the UEFA Champions League) emphasises the idea of a League of Champions, giving a fair and thorough assessment of how your team ranks when matched with the best the Master League has to offer as well as prolonging the competition over the course of a season. Home & Away form MUST be a factor in deciding a tied group, it's the European way...


#3 King's Cup Final

Group A winner v Group B winner

Nothing really needs explaining here, the two group winners meet in a titanic clash of epic proportions, however, such an occasion needs the appropriate stadia. My suggestion would be allowing us to customize a list of up to ten stadia in the game with 50'000 capacity or higher (Emirates, Allianz Arena, Dragao, Jose Avalade, etc...), or whatever your choice, to be set out at random to host finals for the next ten seasons. Having a fixed destination for every final would be far more realistic than a random, ugly, under-capacity stadium which fails to do the occasion justice.


#4 The Master’s Cup (or European Championship - yes, I do steal these names) - The format would mimic the current Champions League format, eight groups of four teams, home and away leg with the top two qualifying to the knock out round. Qualification would require a top five finish (or lower depending on Champions League qualification). For Example...

1st Manchester United - KC (League Champions)
2nd Chelsea - EC
3rd Arsenal - KC (Cup Champions)
4th Liverpool - EC
5th Everton - EC
6th Tottenham - EC

1st Juventus - KC (League Champions)
2nd AC Milan - KC (Cup Champions)
3rd Inter Milan - EC
4th Roma - EC
5th Fiorentina - EC
6th Udinese - EC

1st Barcelona - KC (League Champions)
2nd Valencia - EC
3rd Villareal - EC
4th Real Madrid - KC (Cup Champions)
5th Atletico Madrid - EC
6th Sevilla - EC

1st Bayern Munich - KC (League Champions)
2nd Borussia Dortmund - EC
3rd Bayer Leverkusen - EC
4th Hamburg - EC
5th Stuttgart - EC
6th Werder Bremen - KC (Cup Champions)

As you may or may not have guessed by this post, I hold a complete abhoration for the pointless qualification stage we’ve been subjected to on previous Master Leagues. I mean honestly, what’s the point a there’s only four league’s that exist? So, in my opinion, seeding should be based on League position, which would be...

Chelsea, Inter Milan, Valencia, Borussia Dortmund

Liverpool, Roma, Villareal, Bayer Leverkusen

Everton, Fiorentina, Atletico Madrid, Hamburg

Tottenham, Udinese, Sevilla, Stuttgart

This would give the player incentive to focus on the league even if the title race has already been decided, with a higher league position resulting in an easier path through the group stage as well as financial rewards varying depending on final league position. Once again no qualification stage means no risk of upsetting the teams-per-league ratio, thus the resulting draw wouldn’t feature two teams from the same League. After that the rest pretty much writes itself...

Group A
Chelsea
Villareal
Hamburg
Udinese

Group B
Valencia
Liverpool
Fiorentina
Stuttgart

Group C
Borussia Dortmund
Roma
Everton
Sevilla

Group D
Inter Milan
Bayer Leverkusen
Atletico Madrid
Tottenham


#5 Closing notes - I understand that the whole point of this game is realism, but in a mode as unique as the Master League realism is a relative term. The specialness has gone from the mode’s premier competitions and after five years a change must be made to refresh it. Oh, and for the love of GOD there MUST be a European Super Cup.

[amenzza]

i would like to see some sort of appealing for cards (when one team crowds round the referee to add pressure for him to give a card)

maybe cards for descent?

option to start a fight on the pitch..... player to player....then teams get involved... etc..etc...

not major things.... but i would find the game more enjoyable lol.

[jimijazz83]

Like millions of other on millions of different threads I can think of numerous things I would love to see in PES 2009. And like others said bringing back features from previous versions, passed off as new and amazing is just taking the p*ss out of the loyal fans who buy the game.

I mean this is supposed to be a next-gen version of the game and the features from PES 2008 where shocking. I have seen Amiga and Mega Drive games with more data in them.

So here is what is easily feasible and I would welcome in the next installment:

1. More teams: explains itself, maybe some more brazilian teams, the german league, argentinian teams. Who really wants MLS teams just because Beckham plays for the Galaxy? Do you want Gateshead or Dagenham and Redbridge in it? It's the same standard!

2. More kit templates.

3. More real boots and ability to bulid your own.

4. More balls and again a template to design your own.

5. Being able to choose what kit you wear in cup and league games. I am sick of being Barcelona for example and always playing in my away kit at home. Half the time the two kits will clash as well.

6. Euro qualification in league mode. How hard can it be to achieve this? I mean the concept was applied in FIFA 97 on the Mega Drive for god's sake!

7. Better keepers. I don't know why they feel the need to change them all the time for better animation. What keeper do you know that tries and save a ball going to his left by diving backwards as if they were in the Matrix films? Simple animation that gets results!

8. Get rid of the pants angles i.e penalties. What where they thinking?

9. Stop lying to the fans! Plain and simple!

I know one thing for sure is that I am going to borrow or rent the game before I buy it. If it fails to deliver then they have just lost a loyal fan who has played the game since the first ever version!!

[DJ_Smurf_2004]

Ok, well there is quite a bit of work to be done to make it impressive like back in the good ol' days of earlier PES games.

1: LINESMEN! I think the ones in the currect versions are maybe sat out of view having a cup of tea and some biscuits and just randomly sticks his flag up when someone is attacking..

2: Better Commentary! Stupid " One Liners " getting repeated every match... its just silly!

3: More Crowd Chants! Possibly from actual Team Fans from across the world. For Instance, When playing at " The Red Cauldron " (omg! lol) have the crowd singing YNWA every once in a while.

4: Better Reactions! From the commentators that is... and the crowd!

5: More Commentary! I know it runs along the line of my Number 2, but i think more commentary on players and teams is needed. I know in PES2008 the commentator will say " One more goal and he'll top the most goals " or something along those lines but it needs more... I actually scored another when the commentator said that and it was back to the " one liners ".

6: BETTER EDITING! How hard can it be to allow more than 2 logo's on a kit and where to place them?? Pathetic excuse for editing IMHO

So there's my little list. I hope people agree with me about them :)

[iago94]

I think they should have more leagues.
Manager Mode (Master league) like FIFA 08 manager mode.
Registered Teams,kits,stadiums, better commentators, boots, balls, harder difficulty, They should make more players look like they actually do not just players for big teams. Realistic stats. (on pes 2008 Bacary Sagna (arsenal) dribble speed:64).

[DJ_Smurf_2004]

They wont have registered teams until 2010.... but thats only a possibility as Konami will have to buy the licenses to the team names, badges and kits etc

[requiem7]

how about a decent editing option.
fucking konami cunts.

[dan80]

other than better crowd and pretty much everything else mentioned id like to see a better transfer window, i mean that in the sense of being able to offer players to clubs for both sale and loan. ive had plenty of players ive put up for transfer and nobody wants to know so im having to release them. its not like its crap players either there was ronald koeman and cruyff in there. plus i like to go down the top teams way of doing things i.e loaning out young players to lower clubs so they develop better and quicker


i know what you mean i have never sold a player only released them or trade and they should put the option of putting young players on loan

[DJ_Smurf_2004]

I was just about to mention the transfer window lol... I think they need to revamp the Master League completely myself... A proper £ system ( € for european games and $ for America).. better layout, More transfers and better deals, 20 teams instead of 16, injuries that occur in international matches (never had an injury of any of my players when they " fail to represent "... basically revamp it all...

I think also that they should introduce the " cutscenes " that they made in PESM (Pro evo manager)

Being able to interact with your players is key. Knowing about how they feel about up and coming matches. Match fitness. Team Morale. Its all important to the game and i think if they introduced a system like this then PES will reign supreme forever!

[Red Owl]

I was just about to mention the transfer window lol... I think they need to revamp the Master League completely myself... A proper £ system ( € for european games and $ for America).. better layout, More transfers and better deals, 20 teams instead of 16, injuries that occur in international matches (never had an injury of any of my players when they " fail to represent "... basically revamp it all...

I think also that they should introduce the " cutscenes " that they made in PESM (Pro evo manager)

Being able to interact with your players is key. Knowing about how they feel about up and coming matches. Match fitness. Team Morale. Its all important to the game and i think if they introduced a system like this then PES will reign supreme forever!

It is 20? Although I can only speak for the PS3 version, is it less on others?

And yeah I agree about everything being re-vamped.

[DJ_Smurf_2004]

Yeah there is still only 16 teams available to compete in any league on the PS2 version.....

Also i hope they bring the next installment of PES on PS2....

[Molonono1]

back to the old editing system
more licensed teams
everything dj smurf said

[dan80]

i think there should be a better master league like real amount of games 38 insted i think there is about 43 games in master league

[Archibald92]

i think that in Master League has to be 2.divisions in all leagues not only in that where are you playing!! Goalkeepers need to have better skills...and of course COMMENTARY NEED to be different not only other commentators but commentary style has to be different!!!

PES 2009 have to be difficullt!!!

And of course it will be nice that when you have GAME OVER or SEASON END you can recieve offers from other team to be a coach of that team ! and then in the season start Club president gives you a season target!!

Sorry for my bad english!

[scoles_1]

Nobody has actually mentioned the rubbish gameplay! players have no weight to them, there are very little animations for tackles, you have no control over passes, the cpu are stupid, and the game is far too easy. The weather needs to affect the game and the crowds need give the game atmosphere!

I want the game to look like i am watching a real game, the occasional lunging tackle, missed fouls from refs, ronaldo's quick feet not just lame stepovers, defenders have weight and strength to them and better shot techniques!

I babbling cos theres so much gameplay-wise that needs changing before all the editing etc is fixed. i hate that i can run down the pitch on top player with my defender and score, its far to easy. i want teams to play to their stregths, not wigan play 4-3-3 agains united in the league, they should be playing 4-5-1 on a crap pitch that i cant pass the ball around on or dribble on well! i thought pes on ps3 would mean not buying a game until the next one came out. . instead its gathered dust and never gets played!

If pes dont hurry up and fix all that they need to fifa will definately catch up, after 5 years of trying to copy pes its slowly getting there. . . . id hate to see the day!!!!

oh and celebrations are the worst. . .and where is the different types of goals and nets? just soooo basic, next year needs to be a big improvement!

[cadburyho]

I think improving the gameplay further, Konami really need to look at the finer details. For instance, when will they realize that the players they created are not wearing any underwear. See for yourself. When a player bents down to place the ball at the corner, there is absolutelty no outline of an underwear. Do you think it is possible to run that fast without an underwear?

[Jess C]

I think improving the gameplay further, Konami really need to look at the finer details. For instance, when will they realize that the players they created are not wearing any underwear. See for yourself. When a player bents down to place the ball at the corner, there is absolutelty no outline of an underwear. Do you think it is possible to run that fast without an underwear?

...Didn't realise you paid that much attention...

[doncoleone]

I know it has been mentioned briefly, but in fear of sounding arrogant, I find the game very, very easy. Even on 'Top Player' difficulty setting, against the hardest teams with a far weaker side; it's a joke how simple it is. They need to make it much tougher, I would love it if it was very difficult to break down a defence.

Also, I usually play 30 minute games with a friend of mine - the score at the end of the match is quite often ridiculous - way too many goals are scored. Defences need to be more realistic, they rarely defend deep enough. Players such as Cristiano Ronaldo can break through the full back's zone with such ease, cut to the by-line and either score themselves or set up a teammate with such ease that the game itself soon becomes very tedious.

Furthermore, in light of this previous point, there are too many 'formulas' in breaking down a defence and scoring a goal. I thought that the new and improved 'AI' system was meant to learn from it's mistakes. Did anyone find this so? Personally, I found the system very poor, I could still score the same goal countless times. Konami needs to recognize that its loyal fans deserve a better and more accomplished experience fit for the 'beautiful game' and not the weak imitation that was released last year.

Indeed, I understand that the licensing issues make it very difficult for The Barclays England League and all the other official names to be included in the game, this doesn't concern me and Konami should invest as much money in drastically improving what it was that made us all fall in love with Pro in the first place - the gameplay. Frankly, last year was not good enough.

In Seabass We Trust

[requiem7]

I know it has been mentioned briefly, but in fear of sounding arrogant, I find the game very, very easy. Even on 'Top Player' difficulty setting, against the hardest teams with a far weaker side; it's a joke how simple it is. They need to make it much tougher, I would love it if it was very difficult to break down a defence.

Also, I usually play 30 minute games with a friend of mine - the score at the end of the match is quite often ridiculous - way too many goals are scored. Defences need to be more realistic, they rarely defend deep enough. Players such as Cristiano Ronaldo can break through the full back's zone with such ease, cut to the by-line and either score themselves or set up a teammate with such ease that the game itself soon becomes very tedious.

Furthermore, in light of this previous point, there are too many 'formulas' in breaking down a defence and scoring a goal. I thought that the new and improved 'AI' system was meant to learn from it's mistakes. Did anyone find this so? Personally, I found the system very poor, I could still score the same goal countless times. Konami needs to recognize that its loyal fans deserve a better and more accomplished experience fit for the 'beautiful game' and not the weak imitation that was released last year.

Indeed, I understand that the licensing issues make it very difficult for The Barclays England League and all the other official names to be included in the game, this doesn't concern me and Konami should invest as much money in drastically improving what it was that made us all fall in love with Pro in the first place - the gameplay. Frankly, last year was not good enough.

In Seabass We Trust
The single player does get boring after a while. Its just the Ai is more predictable than a human player.
As for scoring the same goals. How about scoring different type goals?
I find more satisfaction scoring long range shots or volleys and diving headers.

[.:jester:.]

tbh on top player it can be quite hard, obviously if you run down the wing with one player and cut it back its always gonna be easy. bt if you take long range shots and start passing around then you'll see the AI start to learn what you do and learn how to defend it. personaly id rather score a 30 yard screamer winning 1-0 than score a dozen cut backs in the box.
i think konami are getting there, but it doesnt mean im happy with this years edition. there is steal a ton of work to do and hopefuly it will be finished by 2009, if not then pes is never gonna be finished properly.

[borrissey]

What would you like to see in Pro Evo 2009?

Apart from the obvious of better online play. Id like to see:

A goal celebration where you press a certain button to get the player to take his shirt of and celebrate and then you get booked. And a celebration that lets you jump in the crowd and also gets you booked. More goal celebrations running up to the bench the manager etc.

More international teams.

Have 4 commentators and rotate them around. Keep John Champion, Jonathan Pearce, John Motson, simon Brotherton maybe.

Have the managers on there and be able to edit them.

Get rid of that dodgy penalty camera angle. Make penalties better have some keepers putting there hands out stretched like Van der Sar. Have the cheeky chip penalty.

Put the quick freekick like it was on Pro Evo 6.

Put the situation where if a player went down injured you knew by an icon on the screen and could kick the ball out if you wished to, then the opposition throw the ball back. It was like that on Pro Evo 6.

National anthems and teams lining up for them.

Each teams starting line ups and formations before game with commentary.

Better and more crowd chats and noise.

2vs2 online, and offline.

More realistic keepers when you play the ball to them at their feet, you can just click and hold the long pass button, and he perfectly excecutes a long kick. Not every keeper is as good at kicking.

Certain players rolling around, play acting when fouled.

Better play on system.

No wall when there are freekicks from 40-50 meters....you never see that in real football.

Finetuning running with ball, they run too fast now. Only certain players should be able to do this.

What does everybody else think???

[Big Sammy123]

better editing and more leagus.

[KIngFabregas]

hi all the members i would like to see better aditing , better face cam , and also the difficult of top player to be more difficult and also other surprises. we all love surprises dont we

[cheekyboy]

I'd like to see referees who get outta the f**k**g way in an online match! God if I had a penny for every time iv'e been putting an awesome move together and the dumb ass ref knocks my player over i'd be rich!

[requiem7]

I'd like to see referees who get outta the f**k**g way in an online match! God if I had a penny for every time iv'e been putting an awesome move together and the dumb ass ref knocks my player over i'd be rich!

true. indeed, how come the baldy barsteward doesn't get knocked over?

[Dom_1892]

Seabass should come onto this forum and look at what the fans want. After all, we make or break the game.

[Amateur]

I know it has been mentioned briefly, but in fear of sounding arrogant, I find the game very, very easy. Even on 'Top Player' difficulty setting, against the hardest teams with a far weaker side; it's a joke how simple it is. They need to make it much tougher, I would love it if it was very difficult to break down a defence.

Also, I usually play 30 minute games with a friend of mine - the score at the end of the match is quite often ridiculous - way too many goals are scored. Defences need to be more realistic, they rarely defend deep enough. Players such as Cristiano Ronaldo can break through the full back's zone with such ease, cut to the by-line and either score themselves or set up a teammate with such ease that the game itself soon becomes very tedious.

Furthermore, in light of this previous point, there are too many 'formulas' in breaking down a defence and scoring a goal. I thought that the new and improved 'AI' system was meant to learn from it's mistakes. Did anyone find this so? Personally, I found the system very poor, I could still score the same goal countless times. Konami needs to recognize that its loyal fans deserve a better and more accomplished experience fit for the 'beautiful game' and not the weak imitation that was released last year.

Indeed, I understand that the licensing issues make it very difficult for The Barclays England League and all the other official names to be included in the game, this doesn't concern me and Konami should invest as much money in drastically improving what it was that made us all fall in love with Pro in the first place - the gameplay. Frankly, last year was not good enough.

In Seabass We Trust

I don't find what you said as arrogant, not at all.. It's the plain truth, PES 2008 is too simple, too easy, too boring, a ridiculous effort from Konami. I can basically score any goal with Ronaldo.. And yes, the defense is laughable as when we are in a defensive situation (without possession of the ball) we are left as mere spectators--we can see what the opponent is going to do, we can easily predict it, but we -as defenders- cannot stop gifted opponents such as Cristiano Ronaldo.

The disadvantages between defenders and attackers is ridiculous, defenders are just not equipped to stop attackers.. and that makes a boring game as 50% of the time we are left defending. Bottom Line is that if Defending is made more realistic, the game will be much better because real-life defending isn't boring--you are always trying to predict your opponent, reading the game, and pulling the right move at the right time--that is definitely NOT boring.

The ONLY Football games I have played that actually had decent defending were PES5 and PES6. Simple controls, a very limited set of Defensive Skills -but- it worked effectively as I could stop any player for most of the time. PES6 gave me the feeling that I was properly equipped to defend against gifted opponents. On the other hand, PES 2008 gives me the feeling of being a mere spectator watching what the opponent is going to do next.

I personally think PES6 had a very enjoyable defensive play, it felt like defending, it gave me plenty of options, positioning was decent for most of the time, I had to time things properly and the responsiveness was spot on. Along with the feeling that scoring goals had, and the passing and movement of the game -defending and defensive play- was one of the MAIN things that made PES6 so addicting. I could actually defend for the whole 90 minutes and STILL have fun playing it.

PES 2009?? Defenders should have a LOT more defensive skills/stats, and more defensive controls should be introduced. Bottom Line is that Konami HAVES to re-invent their OLD GEN SYSTEM of "Stats and Special Abilities".

I still cannot believe that Konami screwed up the gameplay of the game--that's what made PES in the first place.

[muzza798]

I don't find what you said as arrogant, not at all.. It's the plain truth, PES 2008 is too simple, too easy, too boring, a ridiculous effort from Konami. I can basically score any goal with Ronaldo.. And yes, the defense is laughable as when we are in a defensive situation (without possession of the ball) we are left as mere spectators--we can see what the opponent is going to do, we can easily predict it, but we -as defenders- cannot stop gifted opponents such as Cristiano Ronaldo.

The disadvantages between defenders and attackers is ridiculous, defenders are just not equipped to stop attackers.. and that makes a boring game as 50% of the time we are left defending. Bottom Line is that if Defending is made more realistic, the game will be much better because real-life defending isn't boring--you are always trying to predict your opponent, reading the game, and pulling the right move at the right time--that is definitely NOT boring.

The ONLY Football games I have played that actually had decent defending were PES5 and PES6. Simple controls, a very limited set of Defensive Skills -but- it worked effectively as I could stop any player for most of the time. PES6 gave me the feeling that I was properly equipped to defend against gifted opponents. On the other hand, PES 2008 gives me the feeling of being a mere spectator watching what the opponent is going to do next.

I personally think PES6 had a very enjoyable defensive play, it felt like defending, it gave me plenty of options, positioning was decent for most of the time, I had to time things properly and the responsiveness was spot on. Along with the feeling that scoring goals had, and the passing and movement of the game -defending and defensive play- was one of the MAIN things that made PES6 so addicting. I could actually defend for the whole 90 minutes and STILL have fun playing it.

PES 2009?? Defenders should have a LOT more defensive skills/stats, and more defensive controls should be introduced. Bottom Line is that Konami HAVES to re-invent their OLD GEN SYSTEM of "Stats and Special Abilities".

I still cannot believe that Konami screwed up the gameplay of the game--that's what made PES in the first place.

i got to season 2033 on pes 6 and it was by far my favourite game of all time follwed by GUN and COD4. you are so right about the defending, i just completely forgot that defending was so good.

1 other thing is memorial match. me and my m8 played 150 odd matches and i won 108 of them and it was so fun because we'd by players in the master league to play eachother with and that is what i most miked.

also shooting. on pes 6 shooting was quality. the amount of long rangers in excess of 50 yards was funny. i think we should give pes 6 more credit.

Personally i am a defender. i was a defender for my saturday league team and with m8s when playing singles i always defend and its my stregnth (maybe because i support liverpool) but if you could actually put up a strong line of defence it would be amazing. for emample on pes 2008 if you cant attack your oppenent then your screwed cos u most certainly cant defend against them.

i am not joking with this comment-- if they dont bring back pes shop i might actually throw myself in the way of a 18 wheeler. on pes 6 i had 18 players who all had stats in excess of 97+ no joke. most of them i bought from the shop and im sorry shingo but i dont want to $$ucking be bulgeria in the euros or whatever so i can unlock players which should be available from the start and that is what i hate most.

[weleh]

can we play next PES on LAN for PC?
is it possible?

[dragonblue_31]

Please, make Adriano's stats and all the brazilian and Inter fat bastards all 99. And only 3 teams, Brazil, Inter and Barça.

[Hunter]

Please, make Adriano's stats and all the brazilian and Inter fat bastards all 99. And only 3 teams, Brazil, Inter and Barça.

:mellow:

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[Elavius]

what a shit game that would be.. expand yourself try a different country or club

[dragonblue_31]

what a shit game that would be.. expand yourself try a different country or club

Isn't the teams everyone like to play online? What the point of playing smaller teams? You always, and i mean always being ripped off...

[Elavius]

the point of playing the smaler teams is to give yourself a challenge whats the point of winning evertime... unless your just a massive ego??

[Madara_Blade]

more teams

Get players faces right e.g. Quaresma

better online mode

[dragonblue_31]

the point of playing the smaler teams is to give yourself a challenge whats the point of winning evertime... unless your just a massive ego??

What I'm trying to say is, it's frustrating when you play online with smaller teams, as I do, most of the times dominating the whole game with an average ball possesion of 60/62% with 18/19 shots on goal and loose match because glitches, bad programming, over rated players. If I wanted to win every time, I'll always choose Brasil, Inter or Barça, and just press square, right?

[Elavius]

what kind of glitches? i find i play better as a smaller team you just adapt the way you play

[cartoon]

I do not want to see the computer playing cheat again !!!

Very important !!!

FREE KICK AND CORNER KICK

I very sure that , 100 per cent computer will score from these 2 type of set pieces.

Crazy , cheating . . .

[Elavius]

i agree its so hard to keep a clean sheet it smells fishy

[skullverine]

power bar when taking penalty kick.

[Ellfc]

I would like to see more handballs or handball appeals for penalties etc. I haven't seen a single handball on PES 2008, let alone an appeal. And these things happen on multiple ocasions every week in real football. I just want more appeals, basically, which would either get a yes or no from the ref, with players surrounding him and things like that.
Also, I want them to get rid of the force fields. I want to put my player in front of theirs if they get a throw-in, to force another option, like real football. and I think they should get rid of the force fields around the keeper, eg if you run into the path of the ball when he boots it out then it should hit you, and not go past or through you. These two things would make it a much more realistic experience.
Ell

[I.N Extasy]

I would not like to see the game at all, for I fear it will a disappointment, like its predecessor.

[Fearlesspimp]

I would like to see players in the master league who retire come back with a different name for example if Zidane retires he comes back as Dizena (an anagram of his name).... i hate the fact that the same player comes back.

anyone agree?

[blob123]

can we play next PES on LAN for PC?
is it possible?

Yes Yes..
Don't know why it isn't there in the first place

[muzza798]

get rid of the ML and replace it with Manager Mode and have a youth team in the ML.

Make online more interesting other than ranked 1v1s with proper ranks, tournaments and other innovitive features.

I once spent 75mins 'inside' the actual stadium with my goalie and the ball in an online match. that needs to stop.

[Dannyholt]

• Better Keepers
• More options on the edit mode
• More Licenses
• More kit templates
• Playable on online
• Create you own leagues online and have the options to have it public/private and many other options
• Realistic stats of players, sack who did it for PES2008
• Create you own league in offline
• More Teams, dont remove teams to add new ones, thats LAME
• Bundersliga in the Game
• More slots for Players face, via image
• Thousands of empty slots for the face makers to add new faces, same for kits, balls, gloves ect...
• Better passing

[Elavius]

you cant get rid of the master league... if you want more of a mangerial feel go buy a managing game!!

[jon_blade]

Bring back the "Tilt" camera that has been in EVERY game apart from 2008 (??). This allowed you to angle the pitch slightly which in my opinion was the best angle you could have. I may be in the minority, but the standard angle doesn't feel real for me - I mean I have never watched a match where the cameraman is running down the pitch in line with the players. He is stationary, moving the camera from a static position and that is what the "Tilt" does.

[Tommybn123]

To add to all said before I would like to see more tricks and skills like rainbow flicks which could personalise players and make the better players like messi and c.ronaldo able to do things that other players can't do just like real life and the ability to amke ur own tricks in an edit mode would be amazing but i don't see that happening ;-)

[milly_willy]

1. Players weight, speed e.t.c actually affect the gameplay.

2. Weather conditions affect gameplay e.g rain - passes are harder to control, players find it harder to balance, makes first touches bad e.t.c

3.Gameplay

4.Kits, leagues e.t.c

5.Offsides... it would actually be good if the linesman did get offsides wrong now and then instead of getting them perfect every time. This would make game play better but could get annoying if your onside and get called off.... but at least its realistic

6.master league - manager needs to be better e.g loans and also using currency and not points.

7.free kicks - basically every player can score a free kick, and when ever the comp gets one 7/10 times they will score. This needs to be sorted out.

8.sounds - commentator, crowed e.t.c need to be improved

9.animations - better tackles, throw-ins, movement of players better, shooting, passing e.t.c

10.throw ins - no invisible bubble holding your player back to come closer...

11.More skills

12.Make the pitch bigger

13.Could take part in warm ups before the match if you wanted, a bit like in fifa 08 when your just one player and one on one with the keeper but its before a match and you practice corners, free kicks, one on ones e.t.c

14.better referees - you get the smallest tap in the penalty box and your awarded a penalty it's like wtf??

15.online fixed

16.updates - have a download for offline and online where people can get all the latest transfers.

17.players stats - these are really unrealistic

That's about it but most important is the gameplay, so if that's improved it would be great

[2-Face]

1. Players weight, speed e.t.c actually affect the gameplay.

2. Weather conditions affect gameplay e.g rain - passes are harder to control, players find it harder to balance, makes first touches bad e.t.c

3.Gameplay

4.Kits, leagues e.t.c

5.Offsides... it would actually be good if the linesman did get offsides wrong now and then instead of getting them perfect every time. This would make game play better but could get annoying if your onside and get called off.... but at least its realistic

6.master league - manager needs to be better e.g loans and also using currency and not points.

7.free kicks - basically every player can score a free kick, and when ever the comp gets one 7/10 times they will score. This needs to be sorted out.

8.sounds - commentator, crowed e.t.c need to be improved

9.animations - better tackles, throw-ins, movement of players better, shooting, passing e.t.c

10.throw ins - no invisible bubble holding your player back to come closer...

11.More skills

12.Make the pitch bigger

13.Could take part in warm ups before the match if you wanted, a bit like in fifa 08 when your just one player and one on one with the keeper but its before a match and you practice corners, free kicks, one on ones e.t.c

14.better referees - you get the smallest tap in the penalty box and your awarded a penalty it's like wtf??

15.online fixed

16.updates - have a download for offline and online where people can get all the latest transfers.

17.players stats - these are really unrealistic

That's about it but most important is the gameplay, so if that's improved it would be great

You quite summed it up. I don't see everything happening in the next PES. but the PS3 is a powerful machine. They can't come up with another excuse. the next PES has to be the bomb. if not then Seabass Should find a new job. (just joking, he can stay)

[shaun7]

• Better Keepers
• More options on the edit mode
• More Licenses
• More kit templates
• Playable on online
• Create you own leagues online and have the options to have it public/private and many other options
• Realistic stats of players, sack who did it for PES2008
• Create you own league in offline
• More Teams, dont remove teams to add new ones, thats LAME
• Bundersliga in the Game
• More slots for Players face, via image
• Thousands of empty slots for the face makers to add new faces, same for kits, balls, gloves ect...
• Better passing

That's pretty much what I want. About edit mode, if they bring back the old edit mode I would be very happy.

[cescf4bregas]

Bring back the "Tilt" camera that has been in EVERY game apart from 2008 (??). This allowed you to angle the pitch slightly which in my opinion was the best angle you could have. I may be in the minority, but the standard angle doesn't feel real for me - I mean I have never watched a match where the cameraman is running down the pitch in line with the players. He is stationary, moving the camera from a static position and that is what the "Tilt" does.

totally agree...tilt camera was brilliant and something I had to use in previous Pro Evo's..tilt is like real football coverage

[monkeyjim]

For me i would like to see online as good, as everyone says fifa is. More sponsers & teams also leagues, bring back the old creation mode for changing faces etc. Downloads such as transfers etc, better tackling and shooting............... thats all i can think of for now !!

I like to see a dog run on the pitch like in that game years ago. That silly dog.

[Vitumbiko]

More licenses

Better player Motions

And New Tricks (Would like to see a trick system like Fifa's)

Stadiums to be realistic as in Pitchs in Spain are wider and the Goal is small and the Prem Pitchs are Normal size and same with the goal