Spain

[Miggy]

So I looked but couldn't find one. So with the European Championships just round the corner let's discuss how once again Spain are going to fail to live up to expectation.

This is the squad that Aragones is taking with him

La lista de convocados para la Eurocopa es la siguiente:
ARSENAL: Cesc
BARCELONA: Puyol, Iniesta y Xavi
BETIS: Juanito
GETAFE: De la Red
LIVERPOOL: Arbeloa, Reina, Torres y Xabi Alonso
REAL MADRID: Casillas y Sergio Ramos
MALLORCA: Fernando Navarro y Güiza
SEVILLA: Palop
VALENCIA: Albiol, Marchena, Silva y Villa
VILLARREAL: Capdevila, Cazorla y Senna
ZARAGOZA: Sergio García.

No Raúl makes Miguel a happy chappy. :happy:

The big surprises for me are Navarro (He was useless at Barça!), Carzola and Sergio García.

Many can argue that Raúl deserved a call up but I feel that since Aragones got rid we've looked a better team.

I don't want to get ahead of myself but I feel we should be more then capable of at least making the semis for once! Knowing us we wont make it out of the group. It's not an easy group but we're the favourites.

So roll on the 10th of June :)

Fixtures
10/06/08
España Rusia 18:00 horas

14/06/08
Suecia España 18:00 horas

18/06/08
Grecia España 20:45 horas

Our starting line-up will most probably be

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02034.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/20629.jpg http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02501.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02297.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02110.jpg
http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02617.jpg
http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/16531.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02013.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/22097.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12185.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12665.jpg

[Keyser Soze]

No Raul. :(

[Miggy]

Also Bojan isn't in the squad because he did a Bentley-esque thing, felt he was physically drained and needed a rest over the summer so pulled out.

All the better for Barça then :)

[Barry]

He's only 17 anyway. If you look at this squad it's almost a crime if you don't reach the semi-finals, at the least. Cazorla's a surprise certainly.

[Nifty1Pound50]

I actually feel like Spain should win the tournament.

Their best players have come such a long way in the last two years - they now have a genuinely world-class team.

Right through the team - Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Fabregas and Iniesta, up to Fernando Torres and David Villa. For me, those six are amongst the best in the world in their positions at the moment.

I know they've always been labelled "bottlers" (I mean the Spaniards, not those players) - but while other nations' talent has (arguably) stood still a little, Spain's best players have just got so much better.

I'll be backing them for the tournament. Hopefully they'll be a reasonable price due to previous bottling.

[nath_scfc]

Aragones better make sure that Sergio García is going to take his boots, not a five iron.

Apologies for that one in advance.

[Wellzy]

I actually feel like Spain should win the tournament.

Their best players have come such a long way in the last two years - they now have a genuinely world-class team.

Right through the team - Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Fabregas and Iniesta, up to Fernando Torres and David Villa. For me, those six are amongst the best in the world in their positions at the moment.

I know they've always been labelled "bottlers" (I mean the Spaniards, not those players) - but while other nations' talent has (arguably) stood still a little, Spain's best players have just got so much better.

I'll be backing them for the tournament. Hopefully they'll be a reasonable price due to previous bottling.

Also players like Silva from Valencia, I think is definitely one of the best left wingers in the world, or at least has the potential. Im surprised Joaquin has been left out!

I'm supporting Espagne, due to Liverpool's spanish contingent.

[Keyser Soze]

Joaquin has to be one of the most over-hyped players of the century though to be fair.

[Miggy]

Joaquin has to be one of the most over-hyped players of the century though to be fair.

He truly is. Very one dimensional. We don't need wingers any more.

[50!]

No Arteta again? I think hes a class wee player, obviously I'm a bit biased. I can understand when he was in the SPL but hes playing in the Prem now so it just seems Aragones doesn't like him.

[Miggy]

No Arteta again? I think hes a class wee player, obviously I'm a bit biased. I can understand when he was in the SPL but hes playing in the Prem now so it just seems Aragones doesn't like him.

Unfortunately for Mikel there are 4, maybe 5, players just that little bit better then him. We're more then covered in the centre of midfield.

[dotty]

I'm up in the air about Aragones, I think he's done well and Spain have progressed a little but that's mainly due to having some real good upcoming talent in the squad. If Aragones wasn't so arrogant with his squad selection, I could see them doing better.

[Cobinho]

I think Spain will win it too. Got the ability to outplay any side as well as having three strikers in red hot form.

Glorious failures isn't really applicable to this side who have a generation of players between 20-26 that won alot at International youth level.

[Joel]

Spain really have a capable outfit this year. Hopefully they will be able to shake of the bottler mentality and go far this time.

I actually wouldn't mind to see them win it this year. Well, only if Germany does not win it.

[Yossi]

For the back four though, Spain have Ramos and Puyol, but little else. With a keeper like Casillas they may get away with it, but it would be a worry for me if I were Spanish.

Also, could Guti consider himself unlucky?

[Miggy]

Also, could Guti consider himself unlucky?

Far too inconsistent.

[Rambo]

It's ridiculous Raul wasn't chosen, just highlights how much of a cunt Aragones is.

[wrigh2uk]

Spain are the Liverpool of Europe , they've consistently had good squads and always fall way short of the mark

[50!]

Spain are the Liverpool of Europe , they've consistently had good squads and always fall way short of the mark

Liverpool have won a barrel load of European trophies. Spain haven't won anything major. You could maybe say they were a bit like Newcastle, big team, big name players but never manage to win anything.

[wrigh2uk]

Liverpool have won a barrel load of European trophies. Spain haven't won anything major. You could maybe say they were a bit like Newcastle, big team, big name players but never manage to win anything.

Well I actually meant within the term when people always say its going to be their year this year etc.

[Miggy]

It's ridiculous Raul wasn't chosen, just highlights how much of a cunt Aragones is.

:angry:

It's the the racism thing, right?

Let's face it since dropping Raúl Spain have gotten the results and played decent football. Everyone knows Raúl sees himself as some sort of don in the dressing room. Fair enough he's had a good season this year but calling him up again would have been a sign of weakness on Aragones' part.

He wont get the chance to take any penalties either :D it's all good.

[somegooner]

Well I actually meant within the term when people always say its going to be their year this year etc.

Also, many of Liverpool's players are Spanish.

[Usul]

Looking good so far. I expected a lot more from Cesc though.

[Miggy]

Marchena should be no where near the starting 11.

[Usul]

Marchena should be no where near the starting 11.
He shouldn't be in the squad to begin with.

[Miggy]

Friendly against the USA tonight. Iniesta will be missing due to a stomach bug. He was in hospital but is out now, so nothing too serious.

Also seems Albiol will be replacing Puyol at the back. I guess he just wants to show faith in Marchena by giving him another start. That's the only reasoning I see.

On a side note. I had a dream last night we lost to Italy 2-1. :/ Not sure if it was the final or what.

[Usul]

I'd categorize that as a nightmare.

I wonder which striker will start tonight. Both Torres and Villa are injured.

[The Stig]

I'd categorize that as a nightmare.

I wonder which striker will start tonight. Both Torres and Villa are injured.
Torres will start.

An ankle strain forced Torres out of training earlier this week, though Liverpool's number nine could still feature in his country's final warm up game in Santander this evening.

He said: "My ankle is fine. It was just one of those things that could happen in a training match, but it is getting better and better. We will take another look at it later today, but I don't think that I am going to have any problems playing. It is up to the manager to decide, but the most important thing is to be ready for the European Championships."

[Miggy]

Villa might miss the first game against the Russians too. Shame but I guess now we could go with Xavi, Iniesta, Silva and Cesc. Xabi behind them picking up the slack and Torres in front of them banging in the goals.

[Barry]

What is your opinion of Aragones Mig? I always thought of him as lacking in the tactical department as well as in people management.

[Miggy]

He's got character I'll give him that. He also likes to see good football played which is also a plus. But like you said he's lacking with the tactics which could very much be down to age as he's getting on a bit now. People management wise the players seem to like him we all know he has a very special way with treating players.

At the start of the qualifying I wanted him out but we've totally turned it around I it's almost been 2 years since we've lost a game.

[Socrballr9]

Less than an hour until kick-off, this should be fun


for Spain.

[Miggy]

If you play like you did against England, we could get a handful :)

[Socrballr9]

That's what I'm afraid of :(

and we have Argentina after you guys in a few days.

Gotta admire that ambition though..

[Miggy]

Spain starting line up:

CASILLAS; RAMOS, PUYOL, MARCHENA, CAPDEVILA; XABI ALONSO; CAZORLA, XAVI, CESC, SILVA; TORRES.

[Wan]

Cazorla in the lineup he must have a pretty good season with Villarreal eyh?

[Miggy]

Yeah he did but he really isn't very good. He wont feature much.

1-0 :/. Not the most convincing but Xavi's goal was wicked. I'll try find it and post it up.

[The Stig]

Yeah he did but he really isn't very good. He wont feature much.

1-0 :/. Not the most convincing but Xavi's goal was wicked. I'll try find it and post it up.
0-0 would of been embaressing. And I agree Xavi's goal was class.

[Rambo]

http://www.yousportz.com/watch/234e3fad47fa8eabf03a/Watch

Zavi's goal starts at 1:03. Good goal too.

[Calzone]

Wtf was up with Oneywu and Bocanegra? they froze on Xavi's goal. Inbeliveable that they are both considered pros. :no:

[Usul]

Xavinho delivering the goods once again. :happy:

I'm still un-impressed with Mr. Fabregas. I understand it's a friendly, but Senna, Alonso and even De La Red, look livelier.

[Wellzy]

Alonso has had a fairly poor season with us this year. I think Spain will play a similar formation to Liverpool in Euro, to try and get the best out of El Nino. David Villa may have to settle as second string to Fernando.

I really hope Spain do it this year! :D

[Miggy]

Tuesday, 10/6/2008 18:00(17:00 GMT)
Group D
http://www.marca.com/eurocopa2008/img/bandera-espana30x22.gifEspaña Vs Russia http://www.marca.com/eurocopa2008/img/bandera-rusia30x22.gif
http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/imgml/kits/front/122.gif http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/imgml/kits/front/57451.gif


We go into the game having all players available as both Iniesta and Villa have recovered from injury/illness.

The Russian come into the game on the back of a 4-1 comfortable win over Lithuania. Where as Spain struggled to produce against the USA.

Fortunately for us Arshavin will be missing due to suspension. I'm fairly confident we can win this but we all know about Hiddink's teams. They know how to get on opponents tits and this game will more then likely be decided by the one goal.

Our starting line-up will most probably be

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02034.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/20629.jpg http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02501.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02297.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02110.jpg
http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02617.jpg
http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/16531.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02013.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/22097.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12185.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12665.jpg

In charge of the game will be
http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/imgml/officials/referees/260041.jpghttp://img.uefa.com/ml/e8/flags/ioc/small/aut.gif
Konrad Plautz
Age: 43
Assistant referees:
Egon Bereuter
Markus Mayr

[AgentZero]

im sorry lads but its hard to go against guus hiddink, i favour Russia to get out of this group.

[Mr Shhh]

Only problem i think with Spain will be their defending. Apart from that, they look good. Russia will be a toughie no question. Arshavin being suspended is a boost. He is Russia's best player imo and they will miss him.

[Usul]

We will crush the Ruskies. No sweat. :smug:

[Wellzy]

We will crush the Ruskies. No sweat. :smug:

Let's hope so. :cool:

Looking at the side Miggy posted, it is litterally filled to the brim with world class. On paper the best side in Euro, hopefully this time Spain don't slip up. :crymore:

[Yossi]

Let's hope so. :cool:

Looking at the side Miggy posted, it is litterally filled to the brim with world class. On paper the best side in Euro, hopefully this time Spain don't slip up. :crymore:

The defence wouldn't fill me with confidence. Then again, Casillas is behind them.

[Miggy]

Can't wait for this :)

Looks more then likely that Senna will be starting over Xabi. Fair move as he impressed me when he came on in the friendly against the yanks. He's also had a great season with Villareal.

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02034.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/20629.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02501.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02297.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02110.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/16934.jpg
http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/16531.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/02013.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/22097.jpg

http://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12185.jpghttp://www.marca.com/futbol/super-cronica/07-08/img/jugadores/todos/12665.jpg

Vamos España!

[Usul]

Hmm, considering that Cesc is the best midfielder in the World, i'm surprised he doesn't start ahead of Xavi and Iniesta... :rolleyes:

[Miggy]

Hmm, considering that Cesc is the best midfielder in the World, i'm surprised he doesn't start ahead of Xavi and Iniesta... :rolleyes:

He's still young, he'll have his moment.

I'm going to probably miss the start of the game as I have to pick a friend up from the train station.

I'm going to run red lights :realmad: .

[Usul]

He's still young, he'll have his moment.

I'm going to probably miss the start of the game as I have to pick a friend up from the train station.

I'm going to run red lights :realmad: .
I wouldn't move off the sofa if God and all his Prophets needed a ride.

[Miggy]

I wouldn't move off the sofa if God and all his Prophets needed a ride.

I may text her and just give her my street address and she can make her own way.

[PESFan92]

LOL Yeah just sayb either:

"Footballs on i can't miss it" or "Im sorry but my car needs an MOT"

[nikos24]

Good luck Spain!

Here's to the both of us qualifying ;)

[AgentZero]

I may text her and just give her my street address and she can make her own way.
big mig, dont forget to keep your house door unlocked or slighty ajar as nothing worse than getting a visitor during the match..

[PESFan92]

big mig, dont forget to keep your house door unlocked or slighty ajar as nothing worse than getting a visitor during the match..

Argh, dont remind me..2006 FA Cup Final, knock at the door, i was quite angry :realmad:

[AgentZero]

you didnt miss gerrards cracker did you?

[PESFan92]

Na, she knocked when we was 2 up :P

Going back to the game tonight. Im going to predict a 2-1 win for the Spanish :)

[Usul]

I may text her and just give her my street address and she can make her own way.
Wait, wait. You didn't mention she was a girl. You should pick her up. :w00t

[Miggy]

Wait, wait. You didn't mention she was a girl. You should pick her up. :w00t

Haha. Yeah, I was going to anyway. It's these little details that girls pay back ten fold.

Usually.

[Usul]

Haha. Yeah, I was going to anyway. It's these little details that girls pay back ten fold.

Usually.
:)

Shouldn't you get going? Game starts soon.

[Dragonfly]

Wait, wait. You didn't mention she was a girl. You should pick her up. :w00t

Is that Hleb in your sig. :laugh:

[Miggy]

:)

Shouldn't you get going? Game starts soon.

Still got an hour and a half. I can't bloody wait. I really hope it's my lucky night ;)

[Usul]

Is that Hleb in your sig. :laugh:
:shifty:

It's a bit risky, but i couldn't contain myself. :laugh:
Still got an hour and a half. I can't bloody wait. I really hope it's my lucky night ;)
That's the beauty of having a fine lady by your side. You get lucky every night...and day. :dribble:

[Miggy]

Don't think we could have asked for a better start.

Happy days. Let's carry it on.

[Usul]

Ahahaha, i can't wait to see what we do with the Greeks. That anti-futbolistic display is pissing me right off.

[AgentZero]

im bombing out with my preds from this group

[Miggy]

I don't want to get ahead of myself I mean we pretty much had the same first game in the last World Cup. See how that turned out.

But what was different about yesterday compared to the game against the Ukraine was that Russia weren't half bad and on many occasions we got lucky. Something we don't normally get in tournaments.

I think for football's sake we should give the Greeks a battering. Seriously unless you're Greek I can't see why anyone would want to watch that sort of football at a major tournament. Sweden didn't impress me that much tbh. I think the Russian will do them.

[Usul]

We better score early against the Swedes because i'm afraid our defense will not hold for long against Larsson and Ibrahimovic.

Marchena has got no chance against either.

[Miggy]

We better score early against the Swedes because i'm afraid our defense will not hold for long against Larsson and Ibrahimovic.

Marchena has got no chance against either.

Yeah apart from Casillas and Puyol I have little faith at the back. Ramos disappointed me.

[AgentZero]

Its scary to think that liverpool might have a dip for villa.

[nev1612]

Get in Nando!!!

[Miggy]

Started off so well then we've changed to a Spanish team who don't know how to keep hold of the ball.

I can't help but think if Puyol was still on the pitch we'd still be 1-0 up.

Albiol and Marchena, Valencia's centre backs :/ We just need to start playing again and just find the space. We're better then this and it's frustrating!

[Miggy]

Villa maravilla!

Disappointed with a few players but hey we can't play like the Dutch all the time. I really hope Puyol is back soon and that it was just a knock.

Seen man of the match for me. Does very little wrong.

[Usul]

Aragones got lucky. How can he make all his substituions half an hour before the end of a match, and take out two of his most creative players in favour of Cazorla? Not to mention leaving one of the worst defensive partnerships of La Liga last season. Had Ibrahimovic still been on the pitch, i bet the outcome would have been disastrous for us. I'd have but Ramos in the middle and would have brought in Arbeloa, or another sideback.

Anyway, we've managed to stir clear of the Dutch, which is rather good news at the moment. :happy:

[Jonny2J]

We? :tongue:

[Usul]

We? :tongue:
What do you mean? :unsure:

[Jonny2J]

What do you mean? :unsure:I always thought you were from Syria and not Spain, or am I wrong? :unsure:

[Adammce05]

Always loved Villa since I got Valencia on a random in Pro 5, love that guy ! would kill to see him go anywhere that isnt Man United or Madrid. Tbh I'd like to see him stay at Valencia and them to become that force they once were, but I think that'll take some ridiculous happening as it stands :(.

Good result for Spain, even if yous did play far from your best, nice penalty given btw when Elmander was it rugby tackled Silva.

[Miggy]

I always thought you were from Syria and not Spain, or am I wrong? :unsure:

If I remember rightly, he was indeed born in Spain or at least lived in Spain for a good part of his life.

[Jonny2J]

If I remember rightly, he was indeed born in Spain or at least lived in Spain for a good part of his life.Now it all makes sense. I do love it when a plan comes together.

Quite surprised I never picked up on that actually. All I remember is he does indeed look like...

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/ScienceFiction/LordOfTheRingsAragorn2_sm.jpg

[Miggy]

Hahaha yeah. Funny you mention Viggo. That guy speaks pretty much perfect Spanish. Puts me to shame.

[BarnDoor]

Now it all makes sense. I do love it when a plan comes together.

Quite surprised I never picked up on that actually. All I remember is he does indeed look like...

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/ScienceFiction/LordOfTheRingsAragorn2_sm.jpg

Difference is we like Aragorn more.

[Usul]

I am indeed a Spanish citizen - Barcelonian to be precise - though i remain a 'proud' Arab. :smug:

I'm also far prettier than Viggo, who does indeed speak fluent Spanish, but that's because he lived in South America for many years, according to Wikipedia.

[Miggy]

Looks like we're going to do a complete overall for the Greece game. Only Iniesta will start who started against the Swedes.

Reina
Arbeloa, Albiol, Juanito y Fernando Navarro
Xabi Alonso, De la Red y Cesc
Iniesta Sergio García
Güiza

Güiza up top on his own. Reasonably strong squad we've got when you look at that. Capable of beating the Greeks at least.

[AgentZero]

i just hope it doesnt become a dour game like the germans v austria

[Miggy]

Xabi Alonso was the stand out player for me last night. Imagine if that shot from the half way line went in :laugh:

He's shot that hit the post was lovely too.

Overall I was a little bit disappointed, these are players that should be wanting to make an impression. Still don't understand what Sergio Garcia is doing in the squad.

So onto Sunday and I'm still not overly confident. I think the last time we beat Italy in a match that wasn't a friendly was some time back in the 1920's.

[Usul]

Mig, hazme un favor y postea ahi:

http://www.pesmaniacs.com/forum/showthread.php?p=188115#post18 8115

We need you to come out of retirement. :)

[AgentZero]

get in guiza!? wildcard for the fantasy league.

[Adammce05]

Xabi Alonso was the stand out player for me last night. Imagine if that shot from the half way line went in :laugh:

He's shot that hit the post was lovely too.

Overall I was a little bit disappointed, these are players that should be wanting to make an impression. Still don't understand what Sergio Garcia is doing in the squad.

So onto Sunday and I'm still not overly confident. I think the last time we beat Italy in a match that wasn't a friendly was some time back in the 1920's.

Alonso was quality last night, is it true that he's signed for Juve ? According to the commentator he's agreed terms etc :(:(.

Definitely an excellent player to come in for you guys but.

[Miggy]

Over the bloody moon! We can actually get past the quarter finals of a tournament.

We need to improve if we want to get past the Russians but I'm not even thinking about them yet I just want to enjoy this.

SAN IKER!!!
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/63/fullj.0ab282963181d34a1e392c33 469ee33a/0ab282963181d34a1e392c33469ee3 3a-getty-fbl-euro-2008-esp-ita-match_28.jpg

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[nev1612]

Couple of great saves by Casillas!!

It's annoying me how all the papers are saying that Fabregas put them through to the Semi's as if he is the hero when Casillas basically won it for Spain!

[Usul]

Casillas is the 'Hero', not fucking Fabregas, though i take nothing from the lad.

He handled the pressure admirably.

[Keyser Soze]

Couple of great saves by Casillas!!

It's annoying me how all the papers are saying that Fabregas put them through to the Semi's as if he is the hero when Casillas basically won it for Spain!
That's the English media for you. It was always going to happen.

Casillas is a fucking incredible keeper.

[Mr Shhh]

I can see Fabregas now playing ahead of Iniesta, who in my opinion, has not been at his best. Still, great penalty to take under pressure.

[Miggy]

I'd personally start Cazorla over Iniesta. The kid has really impressed me and totally proven me wrong, he's far from out of his depth at international level.

[Stella Artois]

Couple of great saves by Casillas!!

It's annoying me how all the papers are saying that Fabregas put them through to the Semi's as if he is the hero when Casillas basically won it for Spain!

Technically he did. ;)

Still can't see how he's not in the side. Still, the less he plays the better for Arsenal I guess.

[Barry]

Technically he did. ;)

Still can't see how he's not in the side. Still, the less he plays the better for Arsenal I guess.

Last time I heard Aragones pulled the old 'not as good for Spain as he is for Arsenal'. To be honest and going by this tournament, what is Sergio Ramos still doing in the side?

[Miggy]

Last time I heard Aragones pulled the old 'not as good for Spain as he is for Arsenal'. To be honest and going by this tournament, what is Sergio Ramos still doing in the side?

Only better player then Ramos that can play right back would be Puyol but then we need to him play centre back because there's no one better. Also you can't help but think after the season Ramos had that he might actually get into gear soon. Although it's still yet to be seen. Arbeloa is the other option :/

I think it's time to start Iniesta on the bench. He may be a better sub because apart from the Russia game he's been no where near his best.

[Dragonfly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFTWURxmb4

:lol:

[Miggy]

Squad for Estonia and Belgium.
Casillas, Reina, Albiol, Arbeloa, Capdevila, Juanito, Marchena, Navarro, Puyol, Sergio Ramos, Xabi Alonso, Capel, Cazorla, Cesc, Xavi, Iniesta, Iraola, Senna, Güiza, Torres y Villa.

Albiol has a slight injury so not sure if he'll be replaced yet.

No real surprises, with Torres back Bojan has gone back to the U-21s. Haven't seen much of Iraola so I'm still questioning his call up. Not a fan of Capel either but he's useful to have when we want to change things.

Torres is on fire at the moment lets hope he do it for Spain.

[Wan]

How's Guiza at Fenerbahce?

[mufcsean]

Is David Silva injured, if so how long for?

[CDDRodrigo]

Yeah, wat's up with Silva?

[Wan]

Is David Silva injured, if so how long for?

Another two months if I'm not wrong.

[Miggy]

Cesc, Xavi and Iniesta = Awesomeness. Iniesta's goal was silky motherfucker.

Entertaining game so far.

Torres went off injured and could be a doubt for the game against Atleti :D He's just not destined to play Champions League football in the Calderon.

[Dragonfly]

You guys look shaky at the back. You could concede a second at any time.

[Miggy]

Wont happen.

[Barry]

Belgium have picked up their game for sure.

[Miggy]

Yeah.

I'll be happy to come back with a draw. They're dangerous, got quite a bit of pace.

Villa Villa Villa, Villa MaraVilla!
:D:D:D:D:D

[Usul]

We fucked them at the last minute. Cruel, yet highly satisfying.

They were worthy opponents.

[Bish]

Belgium have got a good young squad, definitely improved after last few years. Spain should coast this group now. Iniesta's goal was so silky!

[Barry]

This Belgium will be a great squad in the future, so much talent. Defour, Dembele, Witsel, Kompany, Fellaini...

[I.N Extasy]

Yeah, great goal by Iniesta. It has been pointed out by someone else before, in the Barca thread I think, but I feel the need to say it again: whenever (most of the time at least) Iniesta scores, you know it has to be something special.

[Miggy]

Squad for the friendly against England

- Porteros: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid) y José Manuel Reina (Liverpool/ING)
- Defensas: Raúl Albiol, Carlos Marchena (Valencia), Álvaro Arbeloa (Liverpool), Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Juanito (Real Betis), Gerard Piqué, Carles Puyol (Barcelona) y Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid).
- Medios: Xabi Alonso, Albert Riera (Liverpool), Sergi Busquets, Xavi Hernández, Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona), Santiago Cazorla, Marcos Senna (Villarreal) y David Silva (Valencia).
- Delanteros: Daniel Güiza (Fenerbahce), Fernando Llorente (Athletic), Fernando Torres (Liverpool) y David Villa (Valencia).

[Phatmann]

Hopefully Pique can make his debut. What do you expect the starting line-up to be Miggy?

[Bish]

Very strong squad, 1 or 2 players out (Fabregas). I'm glad your putting a strong team out, good for England to be tested against the best team in the world right now.

[Billy Minof]

Hopefully Pique can make his debut. What do you expect the starting line-up to be Miggy?

Thats a very tough question when its a freindly match, he will probally start his strongest team and make wholesale changes or else mix youth and experiance or else start with non starters to see how they play against a strong nation and then if needs be he can bring on the big guns.....as I said near impossible to say.

[Miggy]

Depends on René. I hope he starts the strongest team which would be

Casillas
Ramos----Puyol---Marchena---Capdevila
Senna
Iniesta----Xavi----Silva
Villa
Torres

But I'd like him to give both of the young Barça boys some playing. Let England see how good Busquets is going to become. Although I already know that his diving will annoy some already.

[Phatmann]

I wonder if any of the Man Utd or Chelsea lads will go in extra hard on tackles against Torres.:shifty:

[The Messiah]

Mig, Busquets is the Spanish Darren Fletcher.

[Miggy]

He's so not. Fair enough he hasn't got the physique and looks of Pique but he's got the talent.

[Bish]

I would have taken that as a complement.

[Billy Minof]

I would have taken that as a complement.

As would I, but you know the Barca boys, they think there players are the best even there reserves and how dare you compare them to a Man United player with countless titles to his name and a full International already established.

[Miggy]

:rolleyes:

[Adammce05]

As would I, but you know the Barca boys, they think there players are the best even there reserves and how dare you compare them to a Man United player with countless titles to his name and a full International already established.

Full international for Scotland, get the fucking parade.

Busquets will be alot better than Fletcher.

Your just bitter and cant accept that Madrid are shit this year.

[Usul]

:lol:

In your face, Minof.

When i say they are World Class material, it's because they are. :smug:

Busquets is a great midfielder, and i think he's already started to tone down the theatrics, as he hasn't done it in the past few matches.

[Billy Minof]

Full international for Scotland, get the fucking parade.

Your just bitter and cant accept that Madrid are shit this year.

And your just jealous of Flether and his trophy cabinate, he has more league titles than the whole of Liverpool put together.

You will see how shit Madrid really are in less than 3 weeks time.

:lol:

In your face, Minof.

When i say they are World Class material, it's because they are. :smug:

Busquets is a great midfielder, and i think he's already started to tone down the theatrics, as he hasn't done it in the past few matches.

You think they are now or you think they will be as of now they are not but they are still young.

[Usul]

When i say world class material, i mean that they are unprocessed goods and have yet to be molded into the great players they are going to become. They need more experience, and more muscle mass. Truth is that Busquets is a lot better than most already, and that's a fact. Just watch him play tonight, and you'll see what i'm bragging about. The last player to come out of La Masia, that impressed me this much, was Lionel, and Iniesta before him.

You think Guardiola lines him up ahead of the likes of Keita, Hleb and Gudjohnsen, because he's a local?

Think again.

Busquets is awesome.

[Miggy]

España Turkey tonight. Should be a really good game. It's going to be a test for us but I'm hoping to at least get 4 points from the 2 games.

[Miggy]

Starting line ups
CASILLAS; SERGIO RAMOS, ALBIOL, PIQUÉ, CAPDEVILA; SENNA, XABI ALONSO; XAVI, CAZORLA; FERNANDO TORRES Y VILLA.

VOLKAN DEMIREL; GONÜL, UZULMEZ, EMRE ASIK, HAKAN BALTA; MEHMET AURELIO, EMRE BELOZOGLU; TUNCAY, ARDA TURAN; SENTÜRK Y NIHAT

I think we'll win but it'll be a hard fought win.

[Miggy]

1-0 down so far at half time. This one up top isn't working, Torres is left alone on most occasions. Silva and Senna would be my first choices to come off, they just haven't done enough. Turkey are closing down really well though, we've had a few chances and are from out of this.

Edit: 2-1 to Spain Xabi and Riera. Totally turned it around. Fair doos to Turkey they don't sit back.
Great great result. That's 18 points out of 18. 9 straight wins for Del Bosque.

[Usul]

Unbeaten in 31. :smug:

5 more and we beat the World record.

[Miggy]

We haven't lost since 2006.

[Amateur]

Between Busquets and Bojan, who do you guys think is better?? Or will be better?

[zeemeister]

@amatuer It would not be sensible to compare a midfielder to a striker both players are fantastic prospects but not the finished article just yet.

[Amateur]

Bojan may be a striker, but at times he shows that he can also play in deeper positions. I think this guy will be a great player very soon.. if injury doesn't struck.

Anyways..

I really can't think of anyone good enough to beat Spain right now. They have experience, technique, tactical awareness, speed, control, integrity, a good bench, etc, etc.. They have everything to win World Cup 2010.

Xavi and Iniesta are very remarkable players in my opinion, very versatile. And Fernando Torres and David Villa have great chemistry, most of the time.

Marcos Senna is one of my worries with Spain, he is a very important player, and it will be hard to replace him. I don't think Xavi Alonso haves what it takes to replace him successfully.

Hopefully Senna still haves some good 3 years left in him.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

Bojan may be a striker, but at times he shows that he can also play in deeper positions. I think this guy will be a great player very soon.. if injury doesn't struck.

Anyways..

I really can't think of anyone good enough to beat Spain right now. They have experience, technique, tactical awareness, speed, control, integrity, a good bench, etc, etc.. They have everything to win World Cup 2010.

Xavi and Iniesta are very remarkable players in my opinion, very versatile. And Fernando Torres and David Villa have great chemistry, most of the time.

Marcos Senna is one of my worries with Spain, he is a very important player, and it will be hard to replace him. I don't think Xavi Alonso haves what it takes to replace him successfully.

Hopefully Senna still haves some good 3 years left in him.

I think Xabi Alonso will be the perfect replacement for Marcos Senna. I can't see Senna having 3 years of International football left in him to be honest.

[Miggy]

Bojan may be a striker, but at times he shows that he can also play in deeper positions. I think this guy will be a great player very soon.. if injury doesn't struck.

Anyways..

I really can't think of anyone good enough to beat Spain right now. They have experience, technique, tactical awareness, speed, control, integrity, a good bench, etc, etc.. They have everything to win World Cup 2010.

Xavi and Iniesta are very remarkable players in my opinion, very versatile. And Fernando Torres and David Villa have great chemistry, most of the time.

Marcos Senna is one of my worries with Spain, he is a very important player, and it will be hard to replace him. I don't think Xavi Alonso haves what it takes to replace him successfully.

Hopefully Senna still haves some good 3 years left in him.

Busquets will replace him fine.

[Amateur]

Busquets will replace him fine.

Dude, Busquets isn't as big and powerful as Senna.. maybe he is quick and good tactically, but players can push him aside.

Marcos Senna on the other hand, you cannot get past him by just pushing him. He makes really good use of his physique, which coupled with his tactical ability makes a very good holding midfielder.

And besides that, 2010 isn't that far anyways, maybe Senna haves what it takes.

But I hope Busquets or Alonso can replace him successfully, if required.. it would be a shame if Spain's chances are limited because of not having a quality defensive mid.

I have seen a fair lot of Barcelona this season, but I have refused to pay attention to "Busquets". He seems to be shaping up into a great player, from what I've seen he is reliable on the ball.

Is he similar to Fernando Redondo?? With whom would you compare him?

[Miggy]

The kid knows how to tackle and he's best position is the holding midfield. He gets the ball and it's a straight away pass to Xavi or Iniesta. I don't think it matters about his physique in that position so much, they're job is just to pick up loose balls and hassle the opponents midfield.

[Amateur]

Cool.. one less thing to worry about. I'll try to pay more attention to Busquets from now on.

[Usul]

Alonso can replace Senna. In fact, he should not play in central roles. He may be an excellent passer of the ball, but usually doesn't make the best choices. His instinct, from what i've seen of him, seems to be to pass it to the back, and that tends to kill the build-ups and counter-attacking plays. He'd be far more useful at the back, IMO.

Busquets would do a fine job. He'll probably start ahead of Toure tonight, so just watch and you'll see that he's got what it takes.

[Usul]

I guess Alonso is shit everywhere. :lol:

Why is it that Del Bosque has changed a system that has given such great results in the past? Cesc Fabregas on the right while Silva, Mata and Cazorla are rotting on the bench? He takes off Cesc just as the guy was starting to play well? I want this cunt out of the job now. We started playing badly the second he took on the job.

[uA - 1905]

If Aragones and Del Bosque are the best Spanish managers then you are in deepest of shits.

[Usul]

The problem is that every manager that is remotely capable already has a job.

[CDDRodrigo]

Is Mérida the new Zidane?^o.O

http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL1321026-9842,00-JOGADOR+DO+ARSENAL+FAZ+GOL+DE+ PENALTI+A+LA+ZIDANE+E+ESPANHA+ BATE+A+NIGERIA.html

[Bammers05]

Is Mérida the new Zidane?^o.O

http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL1321026-9842,00-JOGADOR+DO+ARSENAL+FAZ+GOL+DE+ PENALTI+A+LA+ZIDANE+E+ESPANHA+ BATE+A+NIGERIA.html

I hope so :cool:

[Miggy]

No.

Although we are through to the knockout stages now.

[Miggy]

Porteros
Iker Casillas Fernández (Real Madrid CF)
David De Gea Quintana (Club Atlético de Madrid, SAD)
Diego López Rodríguez (Villareal CF SAD)
José Manuel Reina Páez (Liverpool)
Víctor Valdés Arribas (FC Barcelona)

Defensas
Raúl Albiol Tortajada (Real Madrid CF)
Alvaro Arbeloa Coca (Real Madrid CF)
César Azpilicueta Tanco (Club Atlético Osasuna)
Joan Capdevila Méndez (Villarreal CF, SAD)
Carlos Marchena López (Valencia CF, SAD)
Gerard Pique Bernabéu (FC Barcelona)
Carles Puyol Saforcada (FC Barcelona)
Sergio Ramos García (Real Madrid)

Centrocampistas
Xabier Alonso Olano (Real Madrid CF)
Sergio Busquets Burgos (FC Barcelona)
Francesc “Cesc” Fabregas Soler (Arsenal FC)
Andrés Iniesta Lujan (FC Barcelona)
Javier Martínez Aguinaga (Athletic Club)
Marcos Antonio Senna Da Silva (Villarreal CF, SAD)
David Jiménez Silva (Valencia CF, SAD)
Xavier Hernández Creus (FC Barcelona)

Delanteros
Santiago Cazorla González (Villarreal CF, SAD)
Jesús Navas González (Sevilla FC SAD)
Juan Manuel Mata García (Valencia CF, SAD)
Pedro Rodríguez Ledesma (FC Barcelona)
Daniel González Güiza (Fenerbache SK)
Fernando Llorente Torres (Athletic Club)
Alvaro Negredo Sánchez (Sevilla FC SAD)
Fernando Torres Sanz (Liverpool FC)
David Villa Sánchez (Valencia CF, SAD)

Good to see Valdes there. He deserves it. Pedro too.

[Sweey]

Your defence doesn't convince me. The rest looks pretty good though.

[Bammers05]

No Almunia :ohmy:

[StringerBell]

I like the selection the only surprises was what other Gk's were coming. Well actually scratch that I didn't know if Negredo would be coming - glad he is.

Edit Almunia? lol

[Miggy]

Defence, apart from Pique and Puyol :smug:, is our weakest line. Marchena can do one. I imagine all those defenders will be going. We're pretty limited with options when I think about it.

[Barry]

If you stick Pique and Puyol in the middle I can see it work. The sides are relatively weak, I've seen Spain for a while now for obvious reasons and Sergio Ramos never struck me as particular fear-inspiring for attackers or defenders. He's handy on the ball, if a little overconfident. His cross comes and goes, like most full-backs. He should be doggedly chasing his man on defense to compensate for a lack of defensive positioning and vision, but he doesn't. Bit of a diva, if you will.

I like Azpilicueta from the sparse games I've seen him in. Albiol and Arbeloa are not heavyweights in the land of defense but you could stick Puyol out right and Albiol in the middle with Pique for whatever reason.

Not going to comment on attack and midfield, it's too imposing.

[Billy Minof]

Good to see Valdes there. He deserves it. Pedro too.

Definatly, Pedro has improved alot since the begining of the season and Valdes apart from the odd howler is a good keeper, his distibution of the ball has improved alot also and he starts most of Barca's attacks, good shot stopper also.

A good squad all in all but I cannot see it coming to fruition this summer, Xavis injury will affect the team alot as will Torres's and also take into account the amount of football the Barca players have had to play over the past 2 seasons without much of a break and they are the core of the team......just my 2 cents but I cannot see them winning it for the above reasons.

If you stick Pique and Puyol in the middle I can see it work. The sides are relatively weak, I've seen Spain for a while now for obvious reasons and Sergio Ramos never struck me as particular fear-inspiring for attackers or defenders. He's handy on the ball, if a little overconfident. His cross comes and goes, like most full-backs. He should be doggedly chasing his man on defense to compensate for a lack of defensive positioning and vision, but he doesn't. Bit of a diva, if you will.

I like Azpilicueta from the sparse games I've seen him in. Albiol and Arbeloa are not heavyweights in the land of defense but you could stick Puyol out right and Albiol in the middle with Pique for whatever reason.

Not going to comment on attack and midfield, it's too imposing.

Ramos will definataly be RB and will do well, he is required at Madrid to provide the width but with Spain it wont be his primary objective and you will see the best of him....Arbeloa will play his share of games also at RB or LB and has never left the side down.
---------------Casillas------------
Ramos---Pique----Puyol---Arbeloa

[Phatmann]

No love for Capdevila? :(

[Bish]

No Almunia :ohmy:

Just wait for Capello to drop that bombshell tomorrow.

[Joel]

Why are some managers announcing their final team, while others are just announcing the preliminary team?

Spain are officially the European Brazil. They don't have the greatest defence, but they probably won't need it to get far anyway.

[Barry]

Definatly, Pedro has improved alot since the begining of the season and Valdes apart from the odd howler is a good keeper, his distibution of the ball has improved alot also and he starts most of Barca's attacks, good shot stopper also.

A good squad all in all but I cannot see it coming to fruition this summer, Xavis injury will affect the team alot as will Torres's and also take into account the amount of football the Barca players have had to play over the past 2 seasons without much of a break and they are the core of the team......just my 2 cents but I cannot see them winning it for the above reasons.



Ramos will definataly be RB and will do well, he is required at Madrid to provide the width but with Spain it wont be his primary objective and you will see the best of him....Arbeloa will play his share of games also at RB or LB and has never left the side down.
---------------Casillas------------
Ramos---Pique----Puyol---Arbeloa

We've been over the Madrid defense a few times already huh? :D

I suppose Arbeloa is consistent in being mediocre, he makes few out and out mistakes but I wouldn't rely on him to guard someone like Robben, Messi, Ribery or Ronaldo (provided he plays on the wing.....doubtful at best).

[Usul]

No love for Capdevila? :(
He's dreaming if he thinks Arbeloa is going to be in the starting line-up.

No doubt in my mind that Del Bosque is going to use the same defensive line we conquered the Euro with.

I'd take Azpilicueta instead of Arbeloa. He played very well against us and is, by far, superior at man-marking. Arbeloa sucks balls. He truly does. His main weapon against fast wingers is to put his hand in their face. He does it every time and it will cost us dearly, i'm sure.

I would drop De Gea, Reina, Marchena and Arbeloa, Martinez, Guiza and Negredo.

Not sure which one i'd take out of Navas, Mata and Cazorla.

He'll probably pick Cazorla merely because he's been part of the squad so far.

[Dragonfly]

I never realised Pique's final name is Bernabéu.

I think if Spain press like Barcelona, they can leave Pique and Puyol at the back with Senna supporting and the full-backs supporting the attack.

How's Antonio Lopez been doing in the league? I've always been a fan, so I'm surprised not to see him have a look in.

[Usul]

I think he was injured for a long time. Could still be.

All i know is that Arbeloa is overrated and totally unsuitable for the style we've been playing in this past couple of years.

In fact, there is no doubt in my mind that Madrid brought him back for two reasons;

- He's a product of their academy.
- He played for the national squad.

They could not allow the national squad to have so few Real Madrid players.

Same goes for Alonso and Albiol. They were the cheapest national squad players they could afford. Albiol is okay, but Alonso is so overrated.

[Joel]

Reina should definitely be on the plane. Casillas is the only Spanish keeper superior to him.

[Usul]

Valdes has been incredible this season. Reina could be third choice.

I don't trust him anyway. I've seen him make retarded mistakes with incoming highballs.

[Billy Minof]

Valdes has been incredible this season. Reina could be third choice.

I don't trust him anyway. I've seen him make retarded mistakes with incoming highballs.

Casillas hasnt been at his best this season and although his place isnt in doubt im just saying that his form has dropped and he has looked dodgy a few times too many, Valdes and Reina should defiantly be the other 2 though.

[Joel]

Valdes has been incredible this season. Reina could be third choice.

I don't trust him anyway. I've seen him make retarded mistakes with incoming highballs.

Valdes showing that he makes retarded decisions himself right there...

Yeah, Reina's more reliable.

[Sweey]

Very much so.

[Usul]

Porteros: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid), José Manuel Reina (Liverpool), Víctor Valdés (Barcelona).

Defensas: Joan Capdevila (Villarreal), Carles Puyol (Barcelona), Gerard Piqué (Barcelona), Raúl Albiol (Real Madrid), Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid), Álvaro Arbeloa (Real Madrid), Carlos Marchena (Valencia).

Centrocampistas: Xabi Alonso (Real Madrid), Sergio Busquets (Barcelona), Xavi Hernández (Barcelona), Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona), Cesc Fábregas (Arsenal), Javi Martínez (Athletic).

Delanteros: Jesús Navas (Sevilla), David Silva (Valencia), Juan Manuel Mata (Valencia), Fernando Torres (Liverpool), David Villa (Barcelona), Pedro Rodríguez (Barcelona), Fernando Llorente (Athletic).
Not too bad. :smug:

[Miggy]

Martínez is a big surprise. Talented kid though.

Over the moon for Valdes and Pedro. Barça dominating things again :smug:

[Usul]

We play the Saudis today.

[Miggy]

Casillas; Sergio Ramos, Puyol, Piqué, Arbeloa; Busquets, Xabi Alonso; Iniesta, Xavi, Silva; y Villa.

Not bad at all.

[Usul]

I know it's just a friendly but Arbeloa and Alonso should not be in the starting line-up. I can't believe Arbeloa is going. He's barely average.

Not taking Senna was a mistake as well.

[Joel]

I know it's just a friendly but Arbeloa and Alonso should not be in the starting line-up. I can't believe Arbeloa is going. He's barely average.

Not taking Senna was a mistake as well.

Arbeloa does a job though. He is reliable. Who should have been going instead of him?

What's wrong with Alonso?

I know you're a Barca fan, but this is Spain. If you're supporting Spain, support ALL of their players.

[Cannon ball]

Casillas screwed up there. Interesting to see how Spain respond.

EDIT: David Villa!

[Usul]

Arbeloa does a job though. He is reliable. Who should have been going instead of him?

What's wrong with Alonso?

I know you're a Barca fan, but this is Spain. If you're supporting Spain, support ALL of their players.
I've always disliked Alonso. He's a great passer and a good shot, but i'm afraid that's not enough for a player in his position.

As for Arbeloa, i would have preferred one of our rising young talents.

You don't see me criticizing Casillas, or Ramos, whom i hate with a passion.

[Mullet Taylor]

What possible reason was there to leave out Senna ?

[Joel]

Busquets apparantly.

[Miggy]

Senna's the wrong side of 33 these days. Injured a fair few times this season.

We could really do with bringing in another Brazilian defensive midfielder.

Game against Poland in a couple of hours. You can watch it live here

http://www.rfef.es/index.jsp

[Miggy]

6-0.

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:cool:

[Appswah]

wow. Wonderful goal.

[Dragonfly]

I literally let out a sexual moan at the site of that.

[mufcsean]

WOW. I don't think it's fair to be that good.

[fick]

Bloody show-offs!

[nath_scfc]

How serious is Iniesta's injury being reported as over in Spain, Mig?

[Top Gun]

:D That's just a pisstake!

[Miggy]

How serious is Iniesta's injury being reported as over in Spain, Mig?

Should be fine. But he's seems pretty fragile these days. I just hope he can manage at least 7 games.

[Usul]

Apart from Germany, i don't see any real threats so far. :smug:

[Usul]

This is what Arbeloa had to say to a radio show recently:

"Nadie duda de que somos mejores que Chile y que les podemos ganar"

(No one doubts that we are better than Chile and that we can beat them)

"no es soberbia ni prepotencia. España no se siente inferior a nadie y si hacemos las cosas bien somos uno de los mejores equipos del mundo. Tenemos confianza y vamos a superar ese escollo y pasar a octavos"

(It's not arrogance. Spain isn't inferior to nobody and if we do things well we're one of the best teams in the world. We have a lot of confidence and we're going to overcome this obstacle and reach the quarter finals)

That's a big if, punk. Specially if you're on the pitch.

Someone has to remind this fool that he ain't in Madrid and should shut the fuck up and know his damn, bitch ass place. Dumb muthafuka. This is what i was talkin about. He's shit and he talks shit. They should never have taken this punk bitch along.

[Billy Minof]

This is what Arbeloa had to say to a radio show recently:

"Nadie duda de que somos mejores que Chile y que les podemos ganar"

(No one doubts that we are better than Chile and that we can beat them)

"no es soberbia ni prepotencia. España no se siente inferior a nadie y si hacemos las cosas bien somos uno de los mejores equipos del mundo. Tenemos confianza y vamos a superar ese escollo y pasar a octavos"

(It's not arrogance. Spain isn't inferior to nobody and if we do things well we're one of the best teams in the world. We have a lot of confidence and we're going to overcome this obstacle and reach the quarter finals)

That's a big if, punk. Specially if you're on the pitch.

Someone has to remind this fool that he ain't in Madrid and should shut the fuck up and know his damn, bitch ass place. Dumb muthafuka. This is what i was talkin about. He's shit and he talks shit. They should never have taken this punk bitch along.

Whats the problem?

[Bish]

He's just annoyed someone like Xavi didn't say it.

[Usul]

Xavi would never say that. :smug:

[nev1612]

Best penalty ever?????

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[Cannon ball]

Anyone watching the Spain-England U-19's semi? Its been a good game so far, Spain look a class above England. I seriously think Spain will come to dominant International football for years to come now.

EDIT: That third Spanish goal was just jizzworthy.

[Dan]

If we let Pacheco go I'm going to pull a Moaty.

[Usul]

He's like a young Villa.

[requiem7]

Saw this goal on youtube. What a strike.

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[Miggy]

Shame we didn't beat the French in the final though.

[Usul]

Arbeloa is shit. I'm surprised he's a pro. I've seen better amateurs.

Alonso is mediocre. Can't believe he gets picked ahead of Fabregas, Senna, Cazorla, Arteta, etc, etc. He's got no pace whatsoever, no dribbling skills and is shit defending.

Del Bosque is seriously a useless and stubborn cunt. Without the likes of Iniesta we wouldn't win a thing with that fat bastard at the helm.

[Cannon ball]

Do you think the rivalry between Madrid/Barca is threatening to disrupt the Spanish team? I know its always been there, but with Mourinho, there's much more controversy.

[Usul]

Nah, Xavi and Iniesta are too nice to allow that to happen. Plus, the rest of the squad know they ain't shit without them.

[uA - 1905]

Del Bosque is useless, I'd have told the Spanish FA if they had asked. Totally clueless at Besiktas. Same goes for Rijkaard.

[Cannon ball]

I just noticed that Rijkaard is now in charge of Saudi Arabia.

[Usul]

How the mighty have fallen...but he's filthy rich.

Jut to answer your previous question:

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They're still tight. :lol:

[Haribo]

Arbeloa really is a piece of shit.

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[Barry]

That was so awful. Just awful. If you look at the replay, even Iniesta is like "huh?". That's when you know your dive is godawful.

[Michu]

He dived over Iniesta's feet as well which makes it even more hilarious

[IronCity]

Chelsea fans will be happy to know Torres can't score for Spain either. Did anyone see that fail to the left of goal?

[Chilli81]

Dress warm, del Bosque! :cool:

MÜLLER & GÖTZE vs Austria (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9WKHWvbiN0)

[Usul]

I wish Del Bosque would fuck off already.

[Ghost]

We'll take care of that Usul :shifty:

[Usul]

As much as I'd like to see Del Bosque fail and be shown for the arrogant and incompetent cunt that he is, I'll take a Cristiano sore-cunt-looser face over it any day. Those are always priceless football moments to cherish.

[CDDRodrigo]

Spain will win it again anyway.

[Usul]

Spain 0 - 0 Finland, after the first half.

The Fins have actually managed to get through it without committing a single foul. An impressive display of discipline.