BBC/ITV - which Euro 2008 coverage has been the worst?

[50!]

On one side you have Lawro, Motty and Martin O'Neill who seems to have taken the trip as a boozefest. On the other David Pleat and Clive Tyldesley who seem to know very little about football.

[Haribo]

ITV has been worse due to an array managers giving pointless insight, and David Pleat messing up with every sentence he speaks.

On the other hand the BBC has Marcel. I believe that's enough said, for sure.

[Phatmann]

The one that doesn't have Marcel Desailly is the worst.

[Keyser Soze]

The one that doesn't have Marcel Desailly is the worst.
For sure.

[requiem7]

The one that doesn't have Marcel Desailly is the worst.

you wont be seeing him anymore I wouldn't think.

David Pleat is so boring.
And why do the BBC persist with that ginger winging midget?
Now he doesn't mind speaking to the press/public.
Because he's getting paid!

[Dragonfly]

The one that doesn't have Marcel Desailly is the worst.

For sure.

When the match isn't on, all I seem to see on ITV is adverts. It's almost like they come back from adverts only to tell you adverts are about to come on.

[50!]

The one that doesn't have Marcel Desailly is the worst.

They should have brought Leonardo instead of the Irish drunk.

[Ziss]

Whichever has the commentator that shouts the players name, as if he's hit a 30 yard volley, when in fact he's done a stepover?

[Dragonfly]

Whichever has the commentator that shouts the players name, as if he's hit a 30 yard volley, when in fact he's done a stepover?

John Motson? He's really starting to annoy me. I think he shouted out someone's name yesterday when he just received the ball from a throw in. :mellow:

[JoeyM]

ESPN's American coverage is by far the best. We have Andy "game well and trooly ovah" Gray, Tommy "back of the ol' onion bag" Smyth, and today Juan Pablo Angel was one of the pundits. :smug:

[Ziss]

Is John Motson BBC?

This is serious business. I can't be voting for the wrong one and end up having people laugh at me :(

[cadey]

BBC just shades it because of Marcel Desailly and their constant attempts to whind him up.

[Viperized]

Is John Motson BBC?

This is serious business. I can't be voting for the wrong one and end up having people laugh at me :(
Yes he is.

Which is why I've voted for BBC.

[Stella Artois]

Clearly ITV are worse.

You've got Liverpool and United fan Tydesley, a shit bunch of pundits in the studio and adverts breaks every 4 fucking minutes.

[Ziss]

Well I suppose it's "coverage" rather than just "commentary". Quite like the BBC coverage with Linekar, Hansen, Hairline and O'Neill.

I'll vote ITV then.

[The Messiah]

Oh man, I assumed the poll said the best. :doh:

[Dundon's]

I can't believe the shit you're watching on BBC and ITV, it's pure plastic. Same old predictable answers over and over and...

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RTE coverage.

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Here's some real banter, classic RTE panel debate on Roy Keane.

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Now that's a debate.

RTE on Eriksson

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[Calzone]

ESPN > All

[Berry]

Has anybody else noticed on ITV's coverage, David Pleat has got nothing better to talk about than ex- Tottenham players.

It really bores me :mellow:

[nev1612]

ITV is the worst. David Pleat, Jim Beglin & Andy Townsend!! Nuff said

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I hate ITVs football coverage.

I can put up with adverts on Sky Sports, but for some reason on ITV they wind me up.

But the major deciding factor for me is David Pleat. He's just a cunt.

[Miggy]

Is he still calling the Czech Republic, Republic of Czechoslovakia?

[Teekay]

Well at least you can choose from two bad coverages. In Finland the commentary has been absolute shite, but the studio part is actually somewhat interesting. At least they have had some players and coaches in the studio who have something to say.

[Barry]

You can watch re-runs here a day after the game on Eurosport but they have the lousiest of commentators who all lack enthusiasm.

Normal coverage is good though, on the public channels. During half-time I go do something else, I mean I can form my own opinions on the half of football I just saw.

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Is he still calling the Czech Republic, Republic of Czechoslovakia?

Of course. The guy doesn't have a fucking clue Mig as i'm sure you know.

It's the mispronunciation (? :laugh:) of players names that annoys me too, I remember when I used to watch matches on TV of Newcastle in Europe (those were the days) and we had David Ginola on the left and Keith 'Jillespie' on the right. I hate him.

It's like he pronounces names the way they used to appear on the older versions of ISS.

[Ziss]

The one that I don't get is Romania's "Rat". Unless it is pronounced "Rats"?!? :erm:

[Dom_1892]

Pleat cannot prounounce bollocks all.

[Ziss]

Does he say "Ballacks full"?

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The one that I don't get is Romania's "Rat". Unless it is pronounced "Rats"?!? :erm:

Yeah I wondered that myself man, strange one that.

[dotty]

Hard one looking at peoples opinions i think the BBC picture quality is better for me anyway

BBC + Marcel Desailly, picture quality
- Alan Hanson and Mark Lawrenson (Who sounds like a gay who has been served a bad Mojito)

John Motson should take a run and fuck his voice is annoying and he always goes on about fucking England.

ITV + Pundits aren't up themselves cunts. I can do with the commentary more so than BBC
- Pic quality, ad breaks

[Wellzy]

BBC > ITV

I mean anyone who has Gavid Peacock on their coverage must be desperate. As for Andy Townsend, don't get me started.

[DJ_Smurf_2004]

ITV has to be the worst, not simply because of the bad coverage, but adverts adverts, f***ing adverts!!!!

With BBC, you also get more because there arnet any adverts... plus, Linekar and co. are funny :D

[wrathchild_uk]

For sure BBC is better..least there pundits are actually in Switzerland!

Edit: currently watching ITV's coverage of the Portugal v Germany game and theres already been 2 adverts in quick succession...

[greenegg]

BBC is better but both have their share of cunts. It would be awesome if you could do a Dream Team of Pundits and Commentators for a tournament. I like Lawro, Hansen, Lineker and Shearer but Motson annoys me. If Barry Davies went back to the Beeb and Motty left that would be ace.

Last time I heard Barry Davies commentate was on Big Train :laugh:

[Ziss]

ITV hands down.

"Nuno Gomes flicked it on at the nearpost" - no, it was Deco, but that's forgivable I guess.

"Pepe who's already scored from a corner in this tournament" - I remember him running it from the halfway line?

DO YOU FUCKING RESEARCH, YOU DUMB FUCKS.

[Papa]

ITV should not be allowed near football.

[dotty]

BBC for the win now haha ITV arseholes!

[Teekay]

Oh my god, the Finnish commentator just thought for a moment that Emmanuel Petit was on the pitch for Portugal :laugh:

[50!]

* "Lizazaru" (Bixente Lizarazu)
* "Kakarrr" (Kaka)
* "Dirk Kurt" (Dirk Kuyt)
* "Drogbarrr" (Drogba)
* "Adrianianho" (Adriano)
* "Mack-cher-arno" (Mascherano)
* "Riqwelme" & "Rick Elm" (Riquelme)
* "In-ga-zee" (Inzaghi)
* "Ronald-deano" (Ronaldinho)
* "Pearlo" (Andrea Pirlo)
* "Poil" (Carles Puyol)
* "Inn-esta" (Iniesta)
* "Do-Roy" (Johan Djourou)
* "Rays" (Reyes)
* "Roque Junior" (Roque Santa Cruz - entirely different nationality and player)
* "Vieira" (Vieri)
* "Sevilia" (Sevilla - the club)
* "Yung-berg" (Ljungberg)
* "Marcus Da Beasley" (DaMarcus Beasley)
* "Ayorla" (Ayala)
* "Gilar-dinho", "Gilardini" and "Gilardine" - all in the space of 90 minutes (Alberto Gilardino)
* "Marqwez" (Rafael Marquez)
* "Heintzer" (Gabriel Heinze)
* "Shev-shenko" (Shevchenko)
*Tivez (Carlos Tevez)
* "Louie Garcia" (Luis Garcia)
* "Jockin" (Joaquin)
* "Shimbomba" (Chimbonda)
* "Piteet" (Petit)
* "Barbel" (Babel)
* "Di Natoni" (Di Natale)
* "Matzerazzi" or "Matszeratsi" (Materazzi)
* "Maatassn" (Mathijsen)
* "Ongolaar" (Engelaar)
* "Youfalazy" or "Oojfaloosi" or "Oofalumpi" or "Uffalazzy" (Ujfalusi)
* "Pie Shield" (Plasil)
* "Petra Check" (Petr Cech)
* "Hennry" (Thierry Henry)
* "Botswinga" or "Buttswinger" or "Bosswinger" or "Bawsinger"(Bosingwa)
* "Matthew Flimeanie" (Matieu Flamini)
* "Barzarli" (Barzagli)
* "Tannuci" (Panucci)
* "Canomaresi" (Camoranesi)
* Yakan Hakim (Hakan Yakin)
* "Shonko" (Sionko)
* "Gomesh" (Gomes)
* "Zavvi", "Chavvi", "Shavvi" (Xavi)
* "Pavlencho" (Pavlyuchenko)

* "The Republic Of Czechoslovakia" (Czech Republic)
* "Athletic Madrid" (Atletico)

Pleat Favourites:
'Full-back(s)', 'Width', 'Endeavour', 'Cracker-jack shot', 'Naughty boy', 'Evening all', 'Heavyweight', 'Ebb and flow', 'What a game in prospect', 'I believe...', 'That's very, very poor officiating '"He's comparable to George Best - the incomparable George Best." Another favourite topic is the 'width' provided by 'fullbacks' getting forwards. This is mentioned at least once every game. 'Shoot on sight',

Guess who?

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Guess who?

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/site_imagery/david_pleat_140byline_Wcup.jpg ?

[Dragonfly]

I can't wait for the day Andy Townsend's TV breaks. Super Hans needs to get on the case.

Also, I hate the pronunciation of Zhirkov, which sounds like Jerk Off.

[Kevthedrummer]

this seems like a good idea lads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FlIlXbMEp0

[Keyser Soze]

How can you mistake Senna for Silva? :/ Repeatedly.

[The Messiah]

And Villa.

[Ziss]

How can you mistake Senna for Silva? :/ Repeatedly.
I was going to comment on this.

Sky Sports should cover the next international competition IMO.

[dotty]

Di Natalie? shut up Motson!

[50!]

Cape-DiVilia was really annoying me.

[Original?]

Motson should be fired.

[dotty]

Is it me or are the second set of commentators for both channels a lot better than the main commentary teams?

[Yossi]

After getting sick of John Motson's "Capdevilia", "Pujol" and "Massimo Alber...er, Albertini", I decided to watch through Sky and get Radio Five commentary instead. Graham Taylor's "Paccuni" and the main commentator's (don't know who) "Gweeza" sent me back to the main BBC commentary, only to be greeted by Motson saying "Gweeza" as well :/

[Haribo]

Motson also seemed to think "Di Natalie" scored his penalty.

[50!]

After getting sick of John Motson's "Capdevilia", "Pujol" and "Massimo Alber...er, Albertini", I decided to watch through Sky and get Radio Five commentary instead. Graham Taylor's "Paccuni" and the main commentator's (don't know who) "Gweeza" sent me back to the main BBC commentary, only to be greeted by Motson saying "Gweeza" as well :/

I gave up on 5Live after the first game when they spent the entire second half talking about England.

[somegooner]

If that presentation bothers you, you shouldn't watch Arabic commentary.

[Barry]

Silva and Villa were mistaken for each other here as well. Though usually they get it right, even difficult names seem to be no problem.

I've heard at least 3 ways to pronounce Deco though, glad he's out of the tournament. Dekko, Day-co, Decoow....too silly to mention really.

[Ziss]

On second thoughts, could he have been saying "da Silva"???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Senna

[hitmanuk2k]

ITV's commentators are shocking. During the Russia game they started praising the referee for changing his mind about the foul on the assistants guidance that it was not a free-kick. No, you dumb shits - he changed his mind because the linesman said the ball went out of play.

[TheAlchemist]

Is it me or are the second set of commentators for both channels a lot better than the main commentary teams?

I Agree.

Jim Beglin(sp?) is the best of the lot.

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I did think, after watching this last La Liga season and most Revista shows, that Guiza's name was pronounced 'Wheetha', as with most Catalan names beginning with a 'G' that the 'G' was kinda silent, like from the back of the roof of your mouth if you get me?

So why the fuck was John Motson calling the poor lad Gweeza and Geeza?

I know it's only a small thing but I guess in a way it can be looked at as ignorance toward foreign players, do these chaps every mispronounce English players names? :no:

[Cannon ball]

I know it's only a small thing but I guess in a way it can be looked at as ignorance toward foreign players, do these chaps every mispronounce English players names? :no:

They're getting paid ridiculus money, the least they can do is learn how to say somebodys name properly.

[Benjam]

ITV are much worse, Tyldesley called 1 of the Italian players Zidane last week, and they have Gary Neville as a pundit...Nuff said

[Ziss]

Player down the left wing plays it back to another Turkish player, who then plays it out to Kazim-Richards on the right".

"It's Kazim-Richards back to [Turkish Player], oh and it's back to Kazim-Richards!"

How did one player get from one side of the pitch, in two seconds, right infront of our eyes without us noticing?

Fucking terrible commentry.

[wrathchild_uk]

Was funny when Motson couldn't say Galatasaray...its probably a good thing that he won't be commentating after the euro's!

[ChewittWFC]

BBC just shades it because of Marcel Desailly and their constant attempts to whind him up.

Actually Desailly has some good points to make and i'm sure alot more people would think he's a decent pundit if he was more fluent in the English language.

Has anybody else noticed on ITV's coverage, David Pleat has got nothing better to talk about than ex- Tottenham players.

Pleat is a prize A cunter, he droans on and on every game about absolutely nothing. Regularly fails to finish his sentences and just tails off with a murmur and his constant mispronounciation of player names is comical to say the least. Also he hasn't done it so much this tournament but did it all the time for the champions league, when the commentary gets handed to him as the game kicks-off he ALWAYS says "well, err good evening ladies and gentlemen". Fuck off Pleat you curb crawling scummer.

ITV is the worst. David Pleat, Jim Beglin & Andy Townsend!! Nuff said

There's nothing wrong with Jim Beglin at all.

I mean anyone who has Gavid Peacock on their coverage must be desperate.

What the fuck are you on about, Peacock is one of the finest, most underrated pundits around and it's a real shame he's fucking off to Canada to be a priest once he's done at the Euros.

Personally ITV is the worst by a country mile, bar Andy Townsened they've just hired a load of premiershit managers and old players such as the ghastly Gary Neville who really aren't suited to being a pundit.

[Cannon ball]

I remember when Croatia played Germany, on ITV, and the commentator (can't remember who it was, Peter Drury, I think) kept calling Joachim Low "Yogy Love". It got annoying.

[Ziss]

Terry Sheddingham?

Cesc Fagregos?

[Phil W.A.F.C]

David Pleat does my fucking nut in. Fuck me, he really does my head in. He chats shit for 90 minutes and gets the players names wrong. Botswinga who the fuck is he David? In the UEFA cup Chimbomba, who the fuck? Thats my say on it.

[Dragonfly]

I remember when Croatia played Germany, on ITV, and the commentator (can't remember who it was, Peter Drury, I think) kept calling Joachim Low "Yogy Love". It got annoying.

J Low.

[Benjam]

Actually Desailly has some good points to make and i'm sure alot more people would think he's a decent pundit if he was more fluent in the English language.

Oh fo' sure

[Kevthedrummer]

do we get to choose tonight as normal?

[Dan]

Nope. The final is only on BBC1 tonight for some reason.

[Kevthedrummer]

good. No one would choose to watch their advert ridden coverage anyway.

[pbchillin]

Desailly reminds me of CJ off GTA; San Andreas...


BBc is better, purely because they don't constantly mention Cristiano Ronaldo, even when Portugal aren't playing.

[PESFan92]

Well on one hand you have Motson who cant even pronounce names:

"Sergio Rar-mos"

"CapDiVilla"

"March-ana"

"Joachim Luv"


The first one annoys me because where in Ramos' name, do you pronounce an "R"

[Yossi]

The best one was when he called Cazorla "Cashurli".

[50!]

Motty's last game tonight, wonder if they might manage to find a decent replacement.

[Dragonfly]

Jonathan Pearce will surely be the number one now.

[Kevthedrummer]

jonathan Pearce Will Surely Be The Number One Now.

"And SIR KILL-A-LOT TAKES OUT CHRISTIANO RONALDO"

[Dragonfly]

Was it just me, or did the commentators seem indifferent or nonchalant when Torres scored? They just didn't sound interested.

[requiem7]

Was it just me, or did the commentators seem indifferent or nonchalant when Torres scored? They just didn't sound interested.

who were you listening to?
I switched to 5live commentary. alot better.

[hazman79]

They're both shit.

In fact pretty much all coverage is wank now, because all the pundits are bland and thick and more or less every ex-player doesn't have the intelligence or sophistication to read the modern game without making crass benin observations that my grandma would make.

Alan Shearer is mindnumbing in the extreme has absolutely no original thought and contributes nothing at all to an already pointless waste of time prior to the game commencing. The pre-final montage for Euro2008, tournemant wankfest narated over by Adrian Chilles should have been immediately followed by kick-off, no pre game 'tactical analysis', no more; 'we've just about run out of superlatives to describe Spains '1 and 2 touch football' thats 'easy on the eye' 'but a bit like Arsenal at times "where they just want to walk it in" bollocks.

John Motson just sounds like a jibbering old fool now and he knows it and Mark 'Lawro' can't be bothered to pay attention properly so he constantly calls it wrong by being fooled by play acting, faneing and cheating that has evolved far beyond his skills of observation. As we all know cheating happens throughout the game now and although it is more blatent in other countries it has become a subtle artform over here.

Enough of the pre-tournament show, Just show the fucking line ups and kick-off. Then bring back Barry Davies

[Kevthedrummer]

They're both shit.

In fact pretty much all coverage is wank now, because all the pundits are bland and thick and more or less every ex-player doesn't have the intelligence or sophistication to read the modern game without making crass benin observations that my grandma would make.

Alan Shearer is mindnumbing in the extreme has absolutely no original thought and contributes nothing at all to an already pointless waste of time prior to the game commencing. The pre-final montage for Euro2008, tournemant wankfest narated over by Adrian Chilles should have been immediately followed by kick-off, no pre game 'tactical analysis', no more; 'we've just about run out of superlatives to describe Spains '1 and 2 touch football' thats 'easy on the eye' 'but a bit like Arsenal at times "where they just want to walk it in" bollocks.

John Motson just sounds like a jibbering old fool now and he knows it and Mark 'Lawro' can't be bothered to pay attention properly so he constantly calls it wrong by being fooled by play acting, faneing and cheating that has evolved far beyond his skills of observation. As we all know cheating happens throughout the game now and although it is more blatent in other countries it has become a subtle artform over here.

Enough of the pre-tournament show, Just show the fucking line ups and kick-off. Then bring back Barry Davies

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I agree.

[Original?]

Bring back Big Ron and his coloured analysis.

[hazman79]

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I agree.

I know sorry dropped my monicle for a second there, now then where an earth was I...