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E3 going to start on th 15th this month and I'm already excited bout whats to come from Konami. I'm aware that there will be some official info regarding PES2009 or possibly more pic, gameplay and demo(but I doubt a demo will come b4 GC leipzig). So, what are your predictions about the coming news? For me it would be gameplay videos, the front cover stars and about the licenses.
I really dont know what to expect, but i need something, its tought to survive on little bits of news
I don't know but my feeling is that untill Leipzig they show us videos
I'm dying to see what the gameplay will be like. That's the most important. Then the champions league.
I'm dying to see what the gameplay will be like. That's the most important. Then the champions league.
I agree with Shaun. Most of the forums on here seem to be goin off the mark. Graphics and licensed teams were not the problem in last years installment, in fact I thought the appearance of the game (minus the crowd) was quite impressive.
They need to focus more on improving the gameplay rather than securing licenses. I'd imagine most PES fans would be happy with a far more advanced editing mode so they can customise the game to there own criteria, rather than the licenses.
I don't know but my feeling is that untill Leipzig they show us videos
I'm dying for some gameplay video and if what ur saying is true, then we have to wait till end of August. Konami better get some more improvement this time.
My hopes are that when news comes out they will come with something (NO! I am not talking about CL, i don't care about license) NEW!! That will blow our minds.
I think what EA is doing right now, hyping FIFA and KONAMI being silenced is not a good thing.
So, again i hope they come with something really impressive and i hope it involves gameplay.
My hopes are that when news comes out they will come with something (NO! I am not talking about CL, i don't care about license) NEW!! That will blow our minds.
I think what EA is doing right now, hyping FIFA and KONAMI being silenced is not a good thing.
So, again i hope they come with something really impressive and i hope it involves gameplay.
Agree, I hope I'll be seeing next gen gameplay.
muzza798
13-07-2008, 01:18
a trailer!
My hopes are that when news comes out they will come with something (NO! I am not talking about CL, i don't care about license) NEW!! That will blow our minds.
I think what EA is doing right now, hyping FIFA and KONAMI being silenced is not a good thing.
So, again i hope they come with something really impressive and i hope it involves gameplay.
Maybe Konami are waiting for the right moment to show their game.
Thats's what i am hoping.
Anyone in this Forum goin to the E3??? Just curious.
20Bones08
13-07-2008, 15:33
Anyone in this Forum goin to the E3??? Just curious.
whats the "e3"??
Agree, I hope I'll be seeing next gen gameplay.
I'm expecting a version of PES6 with good graphics -at- best. I don't expect a very good game neither from Konami or EA Sports.
Both PES09 and FIFA09 will be Current Gen. We will have to wait until 2010 or 2011 to see a truly Next Gen Football game.
And as for Seabass.. I have lost a lot of credibility in him, all he talks about are "New Modes" and this and that, and "Diving" -but- in the last 5 YEARS, when was the last time he made clear noticeable improvements to the gameplay??
Not even a single New Player Attribute -the- same exact set of Stats and Special Abilities, the same gameplay, the same Dribbling Tricks (and Dribbling Controls), etc, etc.. And to top it all off, PES08 was actually a step backwards.
I really don't know what to expect from PES09. My guess?? A version of PES6 with good graphics.
I am not going to E3. To far from Europe, but i am going to Leipzig. i know people who work there. I hope to play the game there
whats the "e3"??
E3 is Electronic Entertainment Expo, the name says it all:)
Well whatever the news are, we'll have to wait till Tuesday. 1 day away from E3 :D Theres also press conference from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. At least some coverage to keep us excited.
dam, thats the day i go away so hopefully when i get back there will be plenty of new info on the game for me to digest. heres hoping to some nice long vids!
Ok, the Konami press conference is over but no words of PES2009. I'm a bit dissapointed but then I found out that PES2009 will be the lineup games for the GC in Leipzig August 20th-24th. This is going to be suck bcoz we will have to wait for another month to see what PES2009 will be like. Unless they announce a gameplay video between E3 and GC, I wouldnt be very please, Konami better pull this release off.
Stingrer_I
18-07-2008, 03:48
Maybe they are not saying anything because they don't have anything. This is what Konami has done to me now. I'm so dissapointed with the last few games that I'm actually rooting for FIFA this time.
I haven't even played FIFA since FIFA 2003 but I'm more exited about what EA has to offer this time than getting my hopes up just to be spit and slapped in the face by Konami.
Maybe they are not saying anything because they don't have anything. This is what Konami has done to me now. I'm so dissapointed with the last few games that I'm actually rooting for FIFA this time.
I haven't even played FIFA since FIFA 2003 but I'm more exited about what EA has to offer this time than getting my hopes up just to be spit and slapped in the face by Konami.
Yeah, that's the vibe I'm getting from Konami.. maybe they aren't talking because they don't have anything to boast about. That can happen after spending 5 YEARS of merely tweaking PES4.
Honestly, I've been disappointed since PES6 -because- PES6 was just a tweaked version of PES4; same gameplay, same Controls, same Dribbling Tricks, same Graphics, same Stats and Special Abilities, same Everything..
I'm NOT expecting anything NEW from neither Konami or FIFA. I don't expect any breakthrough.. PES and FIFA will probably play like PS2 games.
I just hope Konami can manage to release a version of PES6 with good graphics, at least that's playable.
Pes 6 and 2008 are common. They both rely on pace mostly. (2008 relys more though). Pes 5 had the best balance between attack and defense. I want a tweaked version of Pes 5 with much better graphics, new animations and better controls.
Rkid005uk
18-07-2008, 12:05
Tis a gloomy outlook.
Maybe they are not saying anything because they don't have anything. This is what Konami has done to me now. I'm so dissapointed with the last few games that I'm actually rooting for FIFA this time.
I haven't even played FIFA since FIFA 2003 but I'm more exited about what EA has to offer this time than getting my hopes up just to be spit and slapped in the face by Konami.
You do realise you are literally basing your argument on nothing right? C'mon, the games 3 months away from release, if it was the end of August then I'd understand.
Pes 6 and 2008 are common. They both rely on pace mostly. (2008 relys more though).
Dont agree with you on this, I think once you take your finger off the sprint button you can actually control the game quite well, what it fails to do is restrict how long the sprint button can be used, allowing people to play like headless chickens, refine how the stamina gage works and all will be resolved.
Dont agree with you on this, I think once you take your finger off the sprint button you can actually control the game quite well, what it fails to do is restrict how long the sprint button can be used, allowing people to play like headless chickens, refine how the stamina gage works and all will be resolved.
Dude, how can you say that!! PES08 is a complete failure, it is bad, it needs a complete overhaul. I actually tried to like it -and- still couldn't find anything worthwhile about that game.
And no, it's not all about "refining the Stamina" -the- game; feels dead and lacks feeling in every aspect, the movements are poor, players move ungracefully, the Stats and Special Abilities cannot even manage to cover some Basic Abilities properly, the Controls are the same we've been using for over 5 YEARS now, etc, etc, etc..
In short, the game is; arcadish, ridiculously fast (everything depends on PACE), unrealistic, predictable -and- BORING.
PES08 was actually a step backwards.. Konami should sort it out.
Pes 6 and 2008 are common. They both rely on pace mostly. (2008 relys more though). Pes 5 had the best balance between attack and defense. I want a tweaked version of Pes 5 with much better graphics, new animations and better controls.
Yeah I guess so.. I mean, after playing PES6 for awhile I have noticed that the game is full of AI flaws and poor off-the-ball movement -and- as consequence PACE becomes something very important.
In order to compensate for the poor positioning -you- need to make excessive runs in all situations; Defending, Attacking, etc, etc.. That's the main thing that has become boring to me, I'm just bored of all the excessive (unrealistic) running I have to do in PES6 -and- with the usual "AI cheating" it becomes even more annoying.
I'm not trying to say that it is a boring game, or a bad game. I'm just saying that Maybe by 2004 the game was New and exciting -but- after 5 years of the same game, it's time for Konami to move on and improve.
PES08?? I think PES08 was actually a step-back.. Why?? Because PES08; haves the same exact set of Stats and Special Abilities we had back in PES4, Haves the same Controls, haves the same AI cheating as before, is ridiculously fast, is even more Unrealistic than PES6 -because- PES08 haves even more flaws than the PS2 versions of PES.
I fail to understand how some people say that PES08 "just needs a tweak here and there" or "just needs to sort out the Online Play".
PESFan92
18-07-2008, 16:42
PES2008 was "Bad", it wasn't awful there was just some bugs. If you take PES5, the only thing that annoyed me on that was the fouls if you just ran up to a player and touched him, you get penilized. They improve the fouls in PES6, and alowed the game to flow better
I then expected PES2008 to be better than PES6 because well its "Next-Gen" however they didn't improve. Its a good game to play. FIFA08 on the other hand is a really good game. But PES2 & 3 beats them both, i've been addicted to PES2 & 3.
Those were the days when KONAMI where at their prime. The best Years where 2002, 2003 for Football. COME ON KONAMI you have proved on "Last-Gen" that you have the ability to make a brilliant football game. Lets just go back to basics with a touch of extra spice. I really don't want to go over to FIFA this year, because i have been a PES fan ever since i can remember, and it would disapoint me to have to play & enjoy FIFA.
Why do people keep comparing FIFA with PES. Again, FIFA was crap from the beginning only the last to FIF'as have had major improvements.
The thing is there is something going on between KONAMI and Sebass. Seabass wanted to delay the game but KONAMi wanted to release it. That means they are not on the same line. Seabass just needs to expands his team and KONAMI don't want to spend any money. KONAMI should listen to Seabass and not get involved every time they wanna make some money.
The team has to grow and KONAMI needs to grow up.
Why do people keep comparing FIFA with PES. Again, FIFA was crap from the beginning only the last to FIF'as have had major improvements.
The thing is there is something going on between KONAMI and Sebass. Seabass wanted to delay the game but KONAMi wanted to release it. That means they are not on the same line. Seabass just needs to expands his team and KONAMI don't want to spend any money. KONAMI should listen to Seabass and not get involved every time they wanna make some money.
The team has to grow and KONAMI needs to grow up.
Agree, I somehow couldnt accept the fact that the father of PES series is sooo unequipped with innovations for the last couple of years. And as a game developer, who doesnt want a bigger team? It started to sound like Konami had something to do with the release date as they need annual income. If its true, I hope Konami realize that this is destroying their franchise.
Stingrer_I
18-07-2008, 18:30
You do realise you are literally basing your argument on nothing right? C'mon, the games 3 months away from release, if it was the end of August then I'd understand.
Then you just proved my point, not that I even made one. If you can read what I say then you should know that I'm simply saying that I'm not going to anticipate anything or get exited because the last few years I've been dissappointed by what Konami ultimately releases.
Like most people here, I'm not expecting anything until I actually see something.
Has seabass expanded his team then?
Has seabass expanded his team then?
No, but it would be a great idea, takes allot of stress away
No, but it would be a great idea, takes allot of stress away
Yeah, more members means more research and more modules will be done for the same amount of time as previous series need. I hope he gets more members to develop PES. It needs serious improvements for next-gen title.
No, but it would be a great idea, takes allot of stress away
considering the amount of formats that pes is now on I should imagine so, but for the same reason it probably wont make any real difference.
considering the amount of formats that pes is now on I should imagine so, but for the same reason it probably wont make any real difference.
That was the reason he stated. Seabass said in an interview that pes had to come out on different platforms with the same team he still has when he was making iss on the snes.
So the the team is still the same.
AnonymousGuy
19-07-2008, 18:14
Why so serious? (www.stretch.ragingfist.net)
That was the reason he stated. Seabass said in an interview that pes had to come out on different platforms with the same team he still has when he was making iss on the snes.
So the the team is still the same.
I am sure that he meant the core of his team is the same (designers); or do you suppose that it is the same people writing code for all formats? it will of got bigger but equally dispersed, but obviously do not know for sure but logic would indicate as such.
I am sure that he meant the core of his team is the same (designers); or do you suppose that it is the same people writing code for all formats? it will of got bigger but equally dispersed, but obviously do not know for sure but logic would indicate as such.
When i read the interview I have the feeling he is saying that with all these platforms out there, our team is too small for me to focus on next gen. That's what i am thinking, what he actually meant. i see no other reason to just accept that he couldn't get everything out of pes 2008.
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