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Couldn't see one of these kicking about so I feel it's about time I created a one, things aren't going to plan so far in the second test against the South Africans, although I must admit it's good to watch Freddie bowling as we have certainly missed him.
I also think it's time for a Harmison recall, as whenever I've watched Durham play this season he seems to have sorted himself out and is almost like the bowler we once knew. Although his mental strength is always going to come into question.
Barry I created this thread just for you btw. :cool:
I wanted to see this side for the second test,
Strauss
Cook
Vaughan
Pietersen
Bell
Ambrose
Flintoff
Broad
Hoggard
Jones
Panesar
I don't see the point of this Pattinson guy as he's like 29 with very little experience. Him and Anderson aren't the sort of bowlers who will be able to help win the Ashes back.
Couldn't see one of these kicking about so I feel it's about time I created a one, things aren't going to plan so far in the second test against the South Africans, although I must admit it's good to watch Freddie bowling as we have certainly missed him.
I also think it's time for a Harmison recall, as whenever I've watched Durham play this season he seems to have sorted himself out and is almost like the bowler we once knew. Although his mental strength is always going to come into question.
Barry I created this thread just for you btw. :cool:
I managed to catch a bit of it yesterday after work, good to see Freddie having a hand in the first two wickets.
Well done on creating the thread, it's high time to be honest.
I wanted to see this side for the second test,
Strauss
Cook
Vaughan
Pietersen
Bell
Ambrose
Flintoff
Broad
Hoggard
Jones
Panesar
I don't see the point of this Pattinson guy as he's like 29 with very little experience. Him and Anderson aren't the sort of bowlers who will be able to help win the Ashes back.
I dunno mate, Hoggard hasn't been great recently.
I'd like to see them give Harmison a chance but when all the current fast bowlers are fit, they should play. Thats Sidebottom, Broad, Anderson and Flintoff.
I just think Flintoff offers more than Collingwood, whos shit.
Also in the ODI side, they should give the Essex man Napier a go, he looks handy.
Lovely thread. We definitely needed one of these.
Naiper seems on fire at the moment. He's handy with the bat and ball, a certain for the twenty20 side i would think. Him and Mascharenas Would do wonders for England on the ODI and twenty20 scene.
Personally, i would like to see Adil Rashid give a bowl for England in the Next test. He maybe wayward at times but he seems the business when it comes to leg spin. He looks like a Shane Warne in the making and the Leg spinner England have been looking for.
As for Simon Jones, i think its a bit too early for his re call, give him a few more months in the Domestic ranks and see how he does, he has had a long injury and it will take time for him to get back to how he was in the Ashes.
Once again, lovely thread. :cool:
Agree about Graham Napier, I think he could add something to the set up.
Stella Artois
19-07-2008, 14:31
Also in the ODI side, they should give the Essex man Napier a go, he looks handy.
:cool:
Essex are the dog's bollocks of ODI sides. We're in the FP Trophy final, the 20/20 semi's and have got off to a winning start in the Pro 40 league. Oh yes.
Napier is class, so too is Foster. Him and Read are the best wicket keepers in the country and it's time for one of them to play for England again. We simply don't have any wicket-keeper batsmen, so just player the best wicket-keeper!
Although having said all that a large reason for our success is Danish Kaneria. What a bowler.
I've read it somewhere that Danish Kaneria is hoping to gain citizenship to play for England, is this actually possible?
Would be good having another top spinner to partner Monty.
AgentZero
19-07-2008, 15:40
i think the next ashes will be a thriller...as we have lost a lot of great bowlers/batters recently, the lack of depth and age i think have finally caught up.
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Essex are the dog's bollocks of ODI sides. We're in the FP Trophy final, the 20/20 semi's and have got off to a winning start in the Pro 40 league. Oh yes.
Napier is class, so too is Foster. Him and Read are the best wicket keepers in the country and it's time for one of them to play for England again. We simply don't have any wicket-keeper batsmen, so just player the best wicket-keeper!
Although having said all that a large reason for our success is Danish Kaneria. What a bowler.Phil Mustard all the way. :cool:
I dunno mate, Hoggard hasn't been great recently.
I'd like to see them give Harmison a chance but when all the current fast bowlers are fit, they should play. Thats Sidebottom, Broad, Anderson and Flintoff.
I just think Flintoff offers more than Collingwood, whos shit.
Also in the ODI side, they should give the Essex man Napier a go, he looks handy.Broad's bowling isn't that great if I'm being honest despite his potential, but I'd keep him in the side regardless mainly due to his batting.
I've read it somewhere that Danish Kaneria is hoping to gain citizenship to play for England, is this actually possible?
Would be good having another top spinner to partner Monty.
Adil Rashid i tell you! He is the future.
Ha, yeah Broad is a handy batsman, 75 in the last test was it?
One thing that really annoys me now about the way the game has turned out is the decline of fast bowling, 15 years ago look at how many brilliant fast bowlers were still around.
Who would you say is the best fast bowler around now on the international scene?
Who would you say is the best fast bowler around now on the international scene?Probably Lee or Steyn at the moment, although I think Sharma or Morkel could both be contenders for that crown in a few years time. But the scene at the moment really is absolutely shocking. As I was mentioning to say 15 years ago, look at some of great quickies who were around back then.
Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Waqar, Wasim all just seem to roll off the tongue, there's nobody currently anywhere near the level of those.
AgentZero
20-07-2008, 00:26
Sharma is a gem, his duel with ponting earlier in the year was awesome cricket. Brett Lee IMO.
Brett Lee is the obvious choice but hes the best of a poor bunch.
Zaheer Khan? Anyone?
Steyn has been great at the moment, his pace and swing is phenomenal. Morkel has Bowled well, but about Sharma, I've seen him play almost every game for India, and yes he is a good bowler, i don't see what all the fuss is about? Could someone explain to be please.
Bradman's average obviously speaks for itself, but it's hard to judge really players from that long ago, although from what I've seen he was the best reader of a ball that you could imagine, he seemed to practically pick it before the bowler even had.
But for me this man is the greatest batsmen of all time.
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Lara's the best in my lifetime though who I've seen in their prime.
Obviously PEM will say Sachin. :jester:
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Can't wait for next summer. :smug:
Bradman's average obviously speaks for itself, but it's hard to judge really players from that long ago, although from what I've seen he was the best reader of a ball that you could imagine, he seemed to practically pick it before the bowler even had.
But for me this man is the greatest batsmen of all time.
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Lara's the best in my lifetime though who I've seen in their prime.
Obviously PEM will say Sachin. :jester:
The one and only Sachin Baby! :cool: Although i did not rate him during a brief time.
average of 55.31 in tests and 44.34 in ODI's. A great player, so small yet big outcomes. A clear example of the term, Big things come in small packages.
Lara has an average of 52.88 and a ODI average of 40.48 Nowhere near Sachin's standards. Great player, but not as great as the little master. :smug:
Just look at this
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I also cannot wait for the ashes, England need to pick up from that embarrassment in the last ashes. The ashes in my eyes is the most competitive and glorious even that happens within the game even though only 2 teams take part within it.
BARMY ARMY!
Lara has an average of 52.88 and a ODI average of 40.48 Nowhere near Sachin's standards. Great player, but not as great as the little master. :smug:Look at the players Sachin had around him though, Dravid, Laxman etc
Lara never had anything like the support Sachin has had in his career, nowhere near.
Look at the players Sachin had around him though, Dravid, Laxman etc
Lara never had anything like the support Sachin has had in his career, nowhere near.
In the end, its what the individual player does himself, not what the other guy is doing. Lara had a brief time with some good players like Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Gayle.
But you are forgetting, look at the age Sachin Established himself, right at the age of 16. From his first game he's gone on steady hitting big scores in every format. He still is going on strong, but he is starting to get rotated within the ODI side as he is getting old.
lets not also forget he can bowl Off spin, leg spin even the bit of right medium, a good fielder too. He chips in every department, one thing Lara lacks in.
(Yes we are talking about BATSMAN but hey thought i would give a little cheap shot in there.) :smug:
Stats don't lie, and it clearly shows, Sachin with the better average should be given the right as the better batsman. :smug:
In the end, its what the individual player does himself, not what the other guy is doing. Lara had a brief time with some good players like Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Gayle.
But you are forgetting, look at the age Sachin Established himself, right at the age of 16. From his first game he's gone on steady hitting big scores in every format. He still is going on strong, but he is starting to get rotated within the ODI side as he is getting old.
lets not also forget he can bowl Off spin, leg spin even the bit of right medium, a good fielder too. He chips in every department, one thing Lara lacks in.
(Yes we are talking about BATSMAN but hey thought i would give a little cheap shot in there.) :smug:
Stats don't lie, and it clearly shows, Sachin with the better average should be given the right as the better batsman. :smug:That's quite clearly not the case though in a game like cricket, as Lara has had to carry his team at times with the bat, and with the nature of what was Lara's game, at times he had to do things that weren't natural to him just to make sure his team actually stayed in it at times.
Lara for me has also made more defining innings in his career than Sachin who at times just seems to go through the motions for me, when Lara done it, he done it in style. :smug:
Sachin is still class though, definitely the two stand outs of a generation. Followed by Steve Waugh.
That's quite clearly not the case though in a game like cricket, as Lara has had to carry his team at times with the bat, and with the nature of what was Lara's game, at times he had to do things that weren't natural to him just to make sure his team actually stayed in it at times.
Lara for me has also made more defining innings in his career than Sachin who at times just seems to go through the motions for me, when Lara done it, he done it in style. :smug:
Sachin is still class though, definitely the two stand outs of a generation. Followed by Steve Waugh.
Sachin is still better :P
haha, that was a nice little discussion, Next topic.
Should Micheal Vaughn MY LORD! stay as England captain?
Sachin is still better :P
haha, that was a nice little discussion, Next topic.
Should Micheal Vaughn MY LORD! stay as England captain?Memories of singing that pissed at many an England game. :D
That's a tough one actually, as at the end of the day who is there to replace him?
4 more wickets for Harmison today btw. :smug:
Memories of singing that pissed at many an England game. :D
That's a tough one actually, as at the end of the day who is there to replace him?
4 more wickets for Harmison today btw. :smug:
KP can take over even Collingwood if he was a regular. I don't see why Freddie can't give it a bash.
Good bowling from Harmy today. Unfortunately we lost today :(
some good bowling from Carter did not pay off in the end. Personally i thought Trott could have hit a little more than he did but ah well, thats another loss to kent :|
first in the twenty20 now in the pro40 :\
Fucking disgusting.
:laugh: haha, typical England aye.
:laugh: haha, typical England aye.There's just so many things wrong with the setup as a whole at the moment, Moores seems to be afraid as well to get rid of some of the so-called established players as well. Things are in need of a big freshen up, absolutely huge as a matter of fact.
Broad getting 60 odd means he won't get dropped although on his bowling performance he should. Pattinson should go for Harmison but Jones or Hoggard would also be improvements, I would get rid of Bell for Shah who hasn't got a chance yet despite being impressive whenever I've seen him.
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:laugh: unfortunately, i only fill out 2 criteria.
Damn can't play for England just yet.
EDIT: i love the last line :laugh:
Gutting that my mate is working tonight so I can't go to the Durham match.
Decent recovery there from Durham after the top order failed, still don't think it will be good enough like despite Durham's attack.
*Edit*
What a start. :D
Really enjoyed watching Durham tonight, thought they'd fucked it up after the first few overs but the middle order put in a good shift, not to mention Liam Plunkett.
Cracking match.
Durham getting bummed here off Tresco.
Valiant effort again there from the tail after the top order failing yet again.
AgentZero
23-07-2008, 22:49
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4098/ecbleafletmv1gr3.jpgYES! sign me up!
I now want to bat like trezza, his 50 was amazing. Pure class.
Harmi is back in the Test Match squad. :smug:
Graham Napier's favourite singer is Boy George and his hero is Elton John. :wave:
Middlesex Vs Kent.
My money is on Kent as they beat us and whoever beats us have to be the best :mellow:
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:laugh: look at sachins afro!
He's probably wishing he was as talented as Brian Lara.
talent can come is all shapes and forms. These 2 people have the talent of batting. 1 of them has more talent, and that is the one and only little master of Sachin.
Did Sachin have a computer gamed named after him?
I rest my case and I know nothing about cricket.
Did Sachin have a computer gamed named after him?
I rest my case and I know nothing about cricket.
:erm: Please, Yuvraj Singh has his own game. So does Micheal Vaughn. So that counts as nothing my friend, nothing.
I see. Well Brain Lara cricket was the only one I knew off. So that says something as I haven't got a clue about this bat and ball game.
I see. Well Brain Lara cricket was the only one I knew off. So that says something as I haven't got a clue about this bat and ball game.
Oh, it's Cricket. Marvelous game, really. You see, the bowler hurls the ball toward the batter who tries to play away a fine leg. He endeavors to score by dashing between the creases, provided the wicket keeper hasn't whipped his bails off, of course.
What's with all the waiting around though?
that was a joke, it was a quote from Family guy. Guess you did not get it. :erm:
Once again, poor innings so far by England.
Cook batted well for his 75, Strauss settled but did not make use of it. Vaughn was just a big :ohmy:, Can't blame Peitersen as we allways seems to rely on him for runs where its needed but still could have contributed more. Collingwood epic fail once again don't know why Bopara was not preferred. Bell did well, but should have gone to hit a ton so should have Cook.
3 settled batsman and not 1 ton, Should have got 1 in minimum, Freddie must do it as we all know Ambrose won't :rolleyes:
I'll say something that hasn't been said before: Forza Andre Nel. Unfortunately, England are getting away just like I expected they would. Currently 202/6.
I hate Michael Vaughan.
I'll say something that hasn't been said before: Forza Andre Nel. Unfortunately, England are getting away just like I expected they would. Currently 202/6.
I hate Michael Vaughan.
In my eyes he is one of the best technical batsman's around. He's lost it now and i think captaincy should be passed on to someone else. Maybe KP.
EDIT: OH and don sweey i did not know you were into the game. Who do you support or "follow"?
In my eyes he is one of the best technical batsman's around. He's lost it now and i think captaincy should be passed on to someone else. Maybe KP.
I hate "KP" more than Vaughan. Glad he got a grand total of 4. Just a shame they didn't break his fingers.
EDIT: OH and don sweey i did not know you were into the game. Who do you support or "follow"?
That'd be telling.
I hate "KP" more than Vaughan. Glad he got a grand total of 4. Just a shame they didn't break his fingers.
That'd be telling.
:| hes probably the only England Player who will get into the World XI
that'd be telling
Huh? I did not quite understand that, could you please dumb it down.
Freddy. :cool:
:cool:
Loving that hes back in the team.
Really enjoyed watching Freddy last night, shame play stopped early as I think we could have maybe taken another wicket. Was a good afternoons play.
We'll see what happens today...
And the skipper goes again! Great catch by Amla i must say. Hopefully Straussy and KP can stay in and tick the total.
As for India today, Sehwag was brilliant, had Mendis in control. Although he did pick up 6 wickets. :mellow:
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Just when it looked like they were back in it, Flintoff and Peitersen give their wickets away. :no:
That's how it's done KP. :lol:
Looks like Vaughan is handing over the captaincy.
Looks like Vaughan is handing over the captaincy.
He needs to as well to be honest. A superb innings from Graeme Smith yesterday.
As for the other test series going on, what an astonishing collapse by Sri Lanka. From 130-5 to 136 all out in under five overs.
I can't stop laughing. Stop crying you big girl. :lol:
I actually found it quite sad watching the Vaughan press conference earlier, in fairness he has done a terriffic job but I do think it was a case of him jumping before he was pushed.
With the exception of one or two individual performances I think we were poor against South Africa, but huge credit has to go to Graeme Smith for his knock yesterday.
Lets hope KP can do the job and hopefully retain the ashes. I think its time to call up Shah and Maybe Samit Patel.
As for India :cool:. Lovely win,
Indian Spinners>Sri Lankan's
Baju + Kumble> Mendis and Ball thrower.
Lets hope KP can do the job and hopefully retain the ashes. I think its time to call up Shah and Maybe Samit Patel.
As for India :cool:. Lovely win,
Indian Spinners>Sri Lankan's
Baju + Kumble> Mendis and Ball thrower.
I would have Shah in my side. Bell should go, I'm not convinced he can score the runs when we really need them like Collingwood did the other day. Whenever he gets a century it seem's to be off of the back of another player getting one. Jones, Harmison and Broad should be back in too.
Lets hope KP can do the job and hopefully retain the ashes. I think its time to call up Shah and Maybe Samit Patel.
As for India :cool:. Lovely win,
Indian Spinners>Sri Lankan's
Baju + Kumble> Mendis and Ball thrower.
Harbhajan Singh is a spoilt, over-rated little shit in all honesty. On the other side, Muralitharan's action is extremely dodgy.
England...retain the ashes? Are you forgetting Australia snatched them back in supreme style?
I would have Shah in my side. Bell should go, I'm not convinced he can score the runs when we really need them like Collingwood did the other day. Whenever he gets a century it seem's to be off of the back of another player getting one. Jones, Harmison and Broad should be back in too.
Jones definitely deserves a recall although I suspect there are some concerns over his long-term fitness. Harmison is useful - but only at home.
Kevin Pietersen announced as the new England captain
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Tubes is God
04-08-2008, 13:34
it would be nice if he would now show some responsibility and be a bit more thoughtful towards the team by not throwing his wicket away trying to show off and bring up his ton with a 6.
Pietersen is that type of player though, that's why he's a fans favourite, he's a showman (at times) and tries to please the fans.
94 is still a good knock.
Here is to a new era. I feel good things to come with this England side. What i don't like is Bopara in for Vaughn! What is going on! yes Bopara has been great for his county recently, but Shah would have been a miles better choice as he has also been racking it up in the First Division whereas Bopara has been doing it in the 2nd Division.
Good choice in calling up Samit Patel to the ODI squad, not too sure about dropping my local lad Tim Ambrose and bringing in butter fingers (Matt Prior). Hes atrocious in my Opinion with the bat and Gloves. Yes Timmy has not done well with the bat but hes done a hell of a better job with the gloves than the David James of Cricket.
Don sweey, Baju is a good bowler, he proved it in that game. Look at his stats they don't lie. 62 test 255 wickets. thats around 4 a game. 161 ODI's and 181 wickets i can't be bothered to work out the average, but a good sum in both aspects of the modern game.
Don sweey, Baju is a good bowler, he proved it in that game. Look at his stats they don't lie. 62 test 255 wickets. thats around 4 a game. 161 ODI's and 181 wickets i can't be bothered to work out the average, but a good sum in both aspects of the modern game.
He started off superbly but after an injury where he was out for a long time, he came back as a less aggressive bowler and got plundered for runs more often than not.
AgentZero
05-08-2008, 14:08
:laugh: pietersen england captain
Last summer when I went away England lost the test series to India, and this summer I go away and England lose to South Africa. I suppose I pick the right time to go on holiday.
Good choice in calling up Samit Patel to the ODI squad, not too sure about dropping my local lad Tim Ambrose and bringing in butter fingers (Matt Prior). Hes atrocious in my Opinion with the bat and Gloves. Yes Timmy has not done well with the bat but hes done a hell of a better job with the gloves than the David James of Cricket.
Shouldn't have dropped Mustard for Ambrose in the ODI side in the first place. Not only do we have a massive hole to fill in the opening department, but Mustard was starting to play well towards the end of the series in New Zealand.
greenegg
05-08-2008, 15:30
KP is the wrong choice as Captain. He is at his best when he doesn't have any worries other than going out and playing well with the bat. I suppose the Captaincy may make him a little less erratic. Personally I would have gone for Strauss. Plus I think it's right for the Captain to be the same for tests and one dayers.
KP is the wrong choice as Captain. He is at his best when he doesn't have any worries other than going out and playing well with the bat. I suppose the Captaincy may make him a little less erratic. Personally I would have gone for Strauss. Plus I think it's right for the Captain to be the same for tests and one dayers.
Which is why Strauss could not take captaincy, we needed the player in all formats and to be good enough as a definate spot. The only choices were KP, Flintoff and Bell.
Bell would be a no as hes too quiet and does not seem the type, Freddie is a no as injurys play a huge role and KP is left. I personally think it was a good choice as he has captained before and did a good job in my opinion.
I had a soft spot for Vaughn, and i will always love him as a batsman, i always thought he was the right man for my generation to watch to learn test cricket. Peitersen is not the role model for me, i tend to look at Prince as i'm a left hand batsman. Hayden is the player i look at for the big hits, but is it only me that loves the game to be played in the way Vaughn and prince go about?
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I'm happy Harmison is back but the batting looks quite weak unless Flintoff and Ambrose get their games together.
cricket fans are crazy!
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I'm happy Harmison is back but the batting looks quite weak unless Flintoff and Ambrose get their games together.
Flintoff will, Ambrose is the best we will get from the choices available, Prior can't catch and the rest of them can't do one or the other. Ambrose is the best we will get for the moment. Can we just not get a batsman to keep, like Dravid did for a while for India.
Didn't Dravid make lots of wicketkeeping mistakes? England have technically been there already at least twice.
Didn't Dravid make lots of wicketkeeping mistakes? England have technically been there already at least twice.He's an Indian cricketer so he can't do any wrong in the eyes of PEM. ;)
Haha, Well, no not at all, i did not say Dravid was a good keeper, i just said he was a keeper for us at one point.
Just take it Jonny, Little master>Lara. Face the fact. ;)
Some great bowling so far, Harmison and Anderson the pick of the lot (not that there was alot to choose from :P). There seems some more team spirit as KP takes captaincy and it looks a much better England side, although i should not speak just yet as the game is not over.
Cook needs to learn how to catch i tell you!
Best wicket today, Anderson's to Kallis or Harmison to Amla. HAHA! also where was Morkel off to :laugh:
Sounds like we've had a cracking start under KP.
Let's see how the batting goes, can't be long before the final wicket falls.
Sounds like we've had a cracking start under KP.
Not really. South Africa couldn't give much of a shit now they've won the series.
Not really. South Africa couldn't give much of a shit now they've won the series.
Well you can only (try to) beat whats in front of you mate, granted South Africa have already won the series but they didn't just lay down and take it up the arse today, it was a good performance from England.
Its also a rivalry between captains, so we can assure you that Smith was trying his bollocks off.
Smith might be but half of the others are thinking about their alcohol consumption after they return home.
This test will show virtually nothing and I think Pietersen is the wrong choice as England captain and will gloat considerably when he fucks up. I detest his arrogance and will happily watch him fail.
Who would have be your choice? I think that Strauss is definitely a better captain but he didn't fit the criteria. There wasn't really a stand out candidate.
No, there wasn't a stand-out candidate but its the same situation South Africa were in when they appointed Smith aged just 22.
I suppose the difference there is that he was already a hugely talented batsman, had captained South Africa at under-19 level and had a battling mentality. I'm not sure if England have a direct equivalent.
No, there wasn't a stand-out candidate but its the same situation South Africa were in when they appointed Smith aged just 22.
I suppose the difference there is that he was already a hugely talented batsman, had captained South Africa at under-19 level and had a battling mentality. I'm not sure if England have a direct equivalent.
Are you saying that KP is not a talented Batsman! :ohmy:
Are you saying that KP is not a talented Batsman! :ohmy:
I'm saying England should've done what South Africa did and appointed a young player who has 10-15 years of international cricket ahead of him like South Africa did.
I'm saying England should've done what South Africa did and appointed a young player who has 10-15 years of international cricket ahead of him like South Africa did.
I see.
Decent lead for England, good to get a wicket early and especially Smith. This looks like its shaping into a small chase for England if any, just need to get Prince and Kallis early and then there should be no real threat, i hope.
AgentZero
09-08-2008, 11:21
good knock by harmison, love it when the tail wags.
Poontang Pie
17-08-2008, 19:31
Eagles! I went up to Lord's for the match. Nice day out it was, anyone else been there?
:huh: What a Performance by England. Perfect Bowling by Broad, he did not try anything fancy and just banged it in at a good line and length and kept frustrating the batsman. Deserved his 5 maybe even more. Flintoff and Harmy did well to skittle the rest of them.
Prior :huh: well i take my hat off to you sir. I always thought Ambrose (even though he is poo himself) was the best Wicket Keeper we have at the moment, but you have proved me wrong. He came back as he worked on his keeping with the time off, and now looks like a solid wicket keeper. That Catch was amazing! :D. Also you seem quite handy with the bat. Two good knocks in the past two games well sir, You deserve your place as England's No1 Keeper.
All in all good play by England and good captaincy by KP. Congratulations England. Bring on the last 3 ODI's! :D
As for other Cricket news, India not doing badly, Good fifty by Kholi, hopefully Dhoni and Raina can see us through to a good total and see off Mendis.
In county cricket news, Mustauq Ahmed has retired from cricket as he has picked up a Knee injury. Killed his chance of "playing for England and become the first choice spinner"
WHEY! 4,000th post! Quite fitting for it :D
Graeme Hick is to miss his own farewell to English cricket through injury.
The 42-year-old Worcestershire legend was due to bow out of county cricket following Sunday's final game, the Pro40 play-off against Glamorgan.
But he aggravated the elbow injury that has plagued him all season in Sunday's defeat to Middlesex at Kidderminster.
And he has now pulled out of his side's final Championship clash this week, also with Middlesex, to bring his glittering county career to an end.
The Zimbabwe-born batsman scored 136 first-class hundreds, accumulating more than 64,000 runs in all forms of the game.
In 11 Championship games this season he averages just under 46, to leave Worcestershire eight points from promotion to Division One with just this week's one game against Middlesex remaining.
Hick told Setanta Sports News: "Unfortunately with my elbow not being right, I didn't really enjoy the fielding side of it.
"I don't feel like I did my job properly on Sunday [when he scored 14 from 26 balls].
"I'm not 100%. I made my decision as if it were mid-season and whether or not I felt I would do myself, and the rest of the guys, justice on the field.
"The decision was made without the added emotion of it being my last game."
Hick was always one of my favourite cricketers, shame he never done it for England unfortunately and I've always held something against Atherton for that declaration.
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/737/durhampd9.jpg
:smug:
Congratulations to Durham. Was meant to post that yesterday but forgot :erm:
England are, once again, a laughing stock. 23-6 from 18.5 overs, still trailing West Indies by 51 runs.
EDIT: 26-7
Phatmann
07-02-2009, 18:47
England are, once again, a laughing stock. 23-6 from 18.5 overs, still trailing West Indies by 51 runs.
EDIT: 26-7
Fucking hell! That's a shambles!
Did anyone watch Australia v New Zealand last week? Was a great match with New Zealand taking the first of the series on the very last ball. I'm not a massive cricket fan but I enjoy watching the ODIs and the World Cup. Never really got into county cricket.
greenegg
09-02-2009, 17:23
The Ashes looks like it will be competed by two out of form Countries. I fear it will be shat.
AgentZero
12-02-2009, 08:25
hopefully by then we will have Stuart Clark and Bret lee back this current bowling attacking is shite.
Clark, BLee, Johnson, Siddle and Krejza is what i hope we take to England. But i reckon a few years in cricketing wilderness is probably what this team needs.
The Messiah
18-02-2009, 16:12
Is Sir Allen Stanford a proper "Sir" or did the nonce just give himself that title?
Edit: No matter. It's only a shitty Commonwealth nation "Sir".
Powell and Edwards :smug: I honestly believe that they would have saw out those four overs if they were to be played.
I knew once it hit 10pm (6pm in the Caribbean) that the game would have been stopped, as that's the time the sun says good night over there.
Urhm, lets get this thead back into use.
England looked good this test after that shambles in the first test. Pitch is abit crappy with the middle line but we look like were getting back into a groove. Sad to see Ian Bell dropped but Shah is a quality batsman so it looks like its the best choice.
Freddie needs to get bat to ball as he seems off it, although his dissmissals are argueably unplayable due to the bounce it gave.
Freddies out :(
Getting heated up with the IPL as hes injured so should he take part even though hes not fit for his country.
Phil W.A.F.C
27-02-2009, 20:14
Strauss has done well since he took over as captain, hit a ton yesterday. Felt sorry for Cook only being six short of notching a test hundred.
good time to declare? I think so, the ball seems to be swinging so Sidebottom and Anderson should have a good day of bowling.
Phil W.A.F.C
28-02-2009, 00:37
Go on Ravi lad. What a guy. Should be a good day for the bowlers.
Another day when cricket is a laughing stock - and its fully deserved.
Ugh. I wish England would've declared a little earlier than they did. The same happened in the fourth test, and you knew unless something amazing was produced by the bowlers, it'd be heading for a draw.
A little more risk would've been nice. Declaring on something like 450 wouldn't have really hurt the cause too much.
Ugh. I wish England would've declared a little earlier than they did. The same happened in the fourth test, and you knew unless something amazing was produced by the bowlers, it'd be heading for a draw.
A little more risk would've been nice. Declaring on something like 450 wouldn't have really hurt the cause too much.
I thought England needed more runs actually - and to get them quicker but Shah had other ideas. West Indies could still collapse, but not being able to enforce the follow-on has almost wrecked England's hopes already. Of course, 61 extras haven't exactly done them any favours.
Speaking of following on, I've lately been shocked by countries (England and Australia) not enforcing it. I mean honestly in the given situations, why not?? Been costly two out of the three times, the exception being the current Australia-South Africa Test.
Watched half of the third one-day international between India and New Zealand on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Was thoroughly entertaining because of the high scoring.
AgentZero
06-06-2009, 00:00
:faceplm: to the Netherlands ... BAHAHAHAHAHAA...
I actually wanted the Netherlands to win at the end, I find it so hard to like the England cricket team atm.
nath_scfc
06-06-2009, 15:15
Oh good God :huh:
I bet cricket is now Barry's number 1 sport. :w00t
I wish Scotland were in England's grouup. :tongue:
We got humped off New Zealand in a 7 over match and they won with an over to spare.
I read this in the newspaper this morning. I'm still smiling now! :laugh:
What a great sport.
:faceplm: to the Netherlands ... BAHAHAHAHAHAA...
Oh dear, oh dear Aussies. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Phatmann
09-06-2009, 14:30
Watching the Aussies get thrashed is great to see. Let's hope they can reproduce this form when it comes to the Ashes next month. Watching the Scotland team trying to field has been the most entertaining part of the Twenty20 so far for me, although they did produce pobably the greatest catch of the tournament. What would it take to stop England from going through? or are we definitely through already?
That catch was unreal. Pretty good catch from Warner for the Aussies last night but wasn't as good.
We're definitely through, I really hope that the Dutch manage to get to the Super 8's.
Phatmann
09-06-2009, 15:00
Yeah, everyone wants the Dutch to go through. It looks like the Windies and South Africa are the teams to beat at the moment. Good to see the Irish beating Bangladesh. :cool:
The Windies just rely on Gayle having a big game, their fielding is not good enough to win it. South Africa and India are the best sides in the tournament, with New Zealand just behind them.
But anybody can win it, all you need is for 1 player to have a huge game and it can be over so quickly.
I still think this is a ridiculous sport, but if one of your country's teams is doing well you can't help but cheer for them.
All these numbers, overs and wickets...it just doesn't make sense. Something like volleyball is easy to follow even if you are a layman because it follows conventional scoring.
Phatmann
09-06-2009, 15:14
If Holland get 151 they go through and Pakistan go out right? Come on Holland! Another 4! D'oh, wicket. :faceplm:
I've never understood why it's taken the Dutch so long to get the hand of cricket...
...especially as the ball looks like a small edam :erm:
The Windies just rely on Gayle having a big game, their fielding is not good enough to win it. South Africa and India are the best sides in the tournament, with New Zealand just behind them.
But anybody can win it, all you need is for 1 player to have a huge game and it can be over so quickly.
Sri Lanka's bowling attack is brilliant too, I'd love to see how it does against India or South Africa.
Can't believe they let that Malinga guy throw the ball but he does do it pretty well. :tongue:
Sri Lanka's bowling attack is brilliant too, I'd love to see how it does against India or South Africa.
Can't believe they let that Malinga guy throw the ball but he does do it pretty well. :tongue:
I will never understand this. I mean, it's as clear as day.
AgentZero
10-06-2009, 08:43
twenty20 is a bit mickey mouse but we lost to the windies and sri lanka...regular cricketing nations. (clutch straws)
Test will be different
I watched a summary of that game of ours; is it the objective of the guy throwing the ball (after quite a hefty run-up - what's up with that?) to hit those poles?
Plus a couple of times the guy behind the poles would just catch it and hit the poles with the ball in his hands!
Savages.
AgentZero
10-06-2009, 11:39
explaining cricket requires much patience.
nath_scfc
11-06-2009, 11:58
Oh man, who saw the epic Sri Lankan fielding yesterday against the Windies. Murali, I think it was.
AgentZero
11-06-2009, 12:46
I will never understand this. I mean, it's as clear as day.
yeah somethings wrong about the way cricket is played there if murali and malinga are considered legit the motherchuckers.
Phatmann
11-06-2009, 12:53
It's something to do with the fact his elbow isn't bent when he bowls it; his arm is straight. That's for Malinga anyway, not sure about Murali. All this cricket has me excited for the inevitable thrashing of the Aussies in the Ashes next month. Bring it on! :ninja:
yeah somethings wrong about the way cricket is played there if murali and malinga are considered legit the motherchuckers.
They're only considered legitimate because the rules keep getting relaxed. I think these days a 15 degree arm flex is allowed during bowling - that's ridiculous. Both of them clearly chuck the ball as do a fair few others. In the IPL alone two young Indian bowlers had their actions reported and I know for certain one of them didn't play again in the tournament. I hear there is/was talk of increasing the allowed angle which will make the game even more laughable.
Cricket is one of the worst run sports on the planet - far worse than football.
AgentZero
11-06-2009, 12:57
It's something to do with the fact his elbow isn't bent when he bowls it; his arm is straight. That's for Malinga anyway, not sure about Murali. All this cricket has me excited for the inevitable thrashing of the Aussies in the Ashes next month. Bring it on! :ninja:
itll be close as were both rubbish at the moment. Expect the attack to be Lee, Johnson, Hauritz, Clarke, Siddle. Batters need to improve but quietly confident
Phatmann
11-06-2009, 13:16
I'm guessing Andrew Symonds won't be called back for the Ashes? Will there be any big players retiring after The Ashes? because I seem to remember a few big names retiring last time round (e.g. McGrath and Warne.)
AgentZero
11-06-2009, 13:20
Mcgrath Warne Langer and then 12 months later Gilchrist. SYmonds is as good as gone the fool, Midge (johnson) will take his place as the all rounder and well bring in another seamer to the squad...maybe even a 2nd spinner.
I watched a summary of that game of ours; is it the objective of the guy throwing the ball (after quite a hefty run-up - what's up with that?) to hit those poles?
Plus a couple of times the guy behind the poles would just catch it and hit the poles with the ball in his hands!
Savages.:lol: Possibly the funniest post I have ever read on this forum.
And by all accounts Vaughan is going to retire today.
muscularmatt
29-06-2009, 16:30
England ladies just dicked on (or vaged on i dunno) the Aussies, is it
just me or in the women's game is everyone apart from england
really really shit??
AgentZero
12-07-2009, 02:30
surprised not mention of ashes havent been raised...but then again i guess i wouldnt want to talk about it after yesterdays session. Chuffed about Haddins century as hes the only player to have played with our now defunct state team.
I thought England would get a draw quite comfortably, but this is now laughable. :lol:
Lucky, undeserving fuckers :>
A bit ridiculous Australia couldn't get the last wicket in 69 balls though.
AgentZero
12-07-2009, 23:08
jammy fuckers..
Australia could have bowled for 10 more overs and they still wouldn't have got that final wicket.
AgentZero
13-07-2009, 02:53
that rain is quite the trump card:ninja:
Mitchell Johnson was brought on this tour for shits and giggles, right?
AgentZero
20-07-2009, 12:14
this test is effectively over. And yes much like Bopara Johnson was brought it to take the piss. Bring on Edgebaston, hopefuly a fit Stuart Clarke will replace johnsons slinger-shocker.
Brett Lee might be back - he'd have ensured a win in the opening match.
Mitchell Johnson to smash 150+ and get Australia a miraculous win? Even he doesn't think so.
CaptainCabinet
20-07-2009, 17:22
I pray for a Monsoon to engulf the country for the next month. Ta God.
I'll see what I can do CaptainCricket.
Never really been convinced about Bell, no doubt he has talent but he's never really taken his chance. Not really anyone else they could turn too though and least he has some experience.
I pray that Onions gets picked for tomorrow.
AgentZero
31-07-2009, 22:55
fuck that swing man! Koertzen is one piece of work....maybe we should riot and pillage untill the ICC sack Koertzen worked for India and that 'other' umpire.
fuck that swing man! Koertzen is one piece of work....maybe we should riot and pillage untill the ICC sack Koertzen worked for India and that 'other' umpire.
Err don't you mean their arch-enemies and Darrell Hair?
AgentZero
01-08-2009, 02:15
nah i meant the riots that happened in India when they toured here and had some bad decisions go against them. I think it was Bucknor
nah i meant the riots that happened in India when they toured here and had some bad decisions go against them. I think it was Bucknor
I know not of this. My bad.
Saw the Australian team putting their bags in a vehicle outside their hotel this morning but couldn't stop for a potential chat as I was already late for work - which is a very regular occurrence.
Fantastic start from England. They're definitely in the box seat now.
Phatmann
07-08-2009, 12:30
I think we're all praying for rain over the next 4 days now.
I've been going on and on and on and on and on and on and...you get the idea...about Australia not picking Stuart Clark for the earlier tests. He's doing so far exactly what you'd expect him to do in a normal test - tie up an end and create pressure. Why the flip wasn't he picked earlier in the series?
On the other side, Harmison on English soil should be interesting. He's always dangerous in home Tests.
EDIT: Clark's got his second, 63-5 now.
72 for pissing 6 at lunch.
Rain, please.
AgentZero
07-08-2009, 15:36
5/21 not bad for siddle..team rep blatantly lied about playing 4 seamers
AgentZero
09-08-2009, 01:25
wahey! Mitchell Johnsons turns up to bowl.
Well this is an embarrassment.
AgentZero
09-08-2009, 13:10
if we cant get this innings victory ill be pretty cut.
Phatmann
09-08-2009, 17:25
Broad and Swann batted valiantly although that was most likely because the pressure was off today. Overall an embarrassing test but it sets up a cracking finale at the Oval. I've heard people calling for Bopara and/or Bell to be dropped and have heard Mark Ramprakash mentioned as a replacement. Thoughts? I don't follow county cricket too much so haven't seen much of him for a few years but apparently he has the highest batting average in the country at the moment. Anyone think he'd be worth bringing in?
Robert Key would probably be more worthwhile to bring in. Mark Ramprakash should have had a shitload more opportunities than he was given. He might even turn down a call at this stage in his career.
Two years ago I think he ended the season with an average in excess of 100.
EDIT: This season his average is presently 100.75
Phatmann
09-08-2009, 17:57
Blimey, you can see why his name has come up then.
Another name I heard mentioned was Jonathan Trott. Can you tell me anything about him?
I think he's the Warwickshire batsman they recently handed a central contract to. He was in the squad for the Test they've just lost so that's a likely selection. Born (and raised?) in South Africa. He's got a pretty decent First Class batting average of 45 or something I believe.
AgentZero
10-08-2009, 00:29
rampie hasnt played a test in what 8 years?
AgentZero
24-08-2009, 11:17
Fuck cricket!!!!!!
I only take an interest when we win.
So yeah!
fvsCjJtz4fs
AgentZero
02-11-2009, 12:04
alright i cant wait till it begins again down here. Have the WINDIES touring!!! last time they were down had a right old banter with one of their players in the PMsXI match .. poor 3rd man doing f*all.
i dont like cricket...oh no!
muscularmatt
10-12-2009, 02:13
How about that Windies performance in Adelaide??
England are making a habit of this! (escaping from a deserved defeat)
muscularmatt
20-02-2010, 05:04
Can't believe this thread is so dead. Anyone been watching any cricket atall???
Well, this has been dead as Berbatov's goal tally.
Since England have been on an amazing run surely some people have some opinion? In honesty, we look the strongest i have ever seen us play. Our Bowling looks strong and for the first time ever, we actually look good with the bat having to not to rely on KP or Collingwood to save the day. Most likely we will have the West Indies in the semi finals, hopefully, we actually have a full 20 overs played against them as usually, we have a habit of getting done over by a rule which is balls.
England look strong thanks to the two South Africans and one Irishman in their team. Cricket is farcical until this sort of thing gets outlawed.
Australia look pretty good too but Pakistan have snuck through the back door so could be a threat. Interesting to see which out of West Indies, India and Sri Lanka will make it through tomorrow.
muscularmatt
11-05-2010, 00:41
Well in my eyes, you can't really gauge anything from watching T20 to how good a side really is. The shorter the form of the game you play, the more luck and irrelevant conditions will play. But there you go, I'm not the best guy to talk to about 20 overs, mainly because I think it's a load of bollocks.
Now if we want to talk about proper cricket, whether that be limmited overs or the test game, that's another matter. England have the potential to be world leaders, but are some way off realising that. Some really decent young players coming through now, and Strauss has looked great as captain and more importantly, hasn't let his batting form go to pot for it, as most England captains tend to.
KP, as he always now seems to be known, I'm starting to lose patience with, particularly at test level. Everyone harps on about how talented he is, but his attitude is awful. Yeah, some of the time he'll bail us out with a really good innings from the upper-middle order, but most of the time he'll race up to about 30 like it's 20 over match and then get out cheaply. He's been doing this his whole career, and I forgave him it when he was younger, for that very reason. But now, at his age and after the amount of caps he's won, he needs to start showing ALOT more maturity out there with the shot selection. Don't get me wrong, limmited overs, he's one of the best in the world, but he hardly adjusts his batting style atall in a test match.
Matt all we were talking about was T20. The squads are entirely different compared with Test and 50-over cricket for virtually every side.
Accurate comments regarding England at the 'proper' levels.
AgentZero
11-05-2010, 12:23
taking back our little trophy at years end with another whitewash, ta.
England look strong thanks to the two South Africans and one Irishman in their team. Cricket is farcical until this sort of thing gets outlawed.
Australia look pretty good too but Pakistan have snuck through the back door so could be a threat. Interesting to see which out of West Indies, India and Sri Lanka will make it through tomorrow.
yeah, but the bowling has to play a part. Swann has bowled really well and so has Bresnan. The bowling looks aggressive as well as being quite economical at times.
AgentZero
12-05-2010, 01:02
we have a dual international in our one. Dirk Nannes of holland played for them in the last world cup but when we came-a-calling he switched.
we have a dual international in our one. Dirk Nannes of holland played for them in the last world cup but when we came-a-calling he switched.
Yes but at least he's clearly Australian but had to go the Holland way as he came to the game so late.
Semi-finals should be interesting.
AgentZero
12-05-2010, 10:29
id love for it (should we make the final) against the old enemy
I don't really know what's going on but I do remember that glorious Holland victory over England. I even watched the recap of that game! That's determination.
What patriotism.
What an innings from Michael Hussey! 60 off 24 for himself, a partnership of 53 off 16 to win the game, needing 35 from two overs and doing it with a ball to spare. Brilliant!
What an innings from Michael Hussey! 60 off 24 for himself, a partnership of 53 off 16 to win the game, needing 35 from two overs and doing it with a ball to spare. Brilliant!
One of if not the best ends to a game i've ever seen. Such Class batting from Hussey honestly its amazing. The reaction of the Pakistan's players was priceless to as they were getting slapped back and forth with no response.
England will have them though!
AgentZero
15-05-2010, 02:32
Bring it on ma'fakkkas!
muscularmatt
15-05-2010, 03:10
taking back our little trophy at years end with another whitewash, ta.
Probadobably.
It is sad really that I find myself not giving a shit about this World T20, even though England are in the final I'm still like, meh. I don't mean to be this snobby I just can't help it.
I just think it takes up too much time in what is already a packed calendar.
AgentZero
15-05-2010, 03:17
mate better that the ODWC, that takes 2months to complete.
muscularmatt
15-05-2010, 04:05
It's just a shame we can't sort of pause time itself for a year and a half and have some kind of Test World Cup. That'd be fucking kickarse
Dear lord what are you doing Australia? :faceplm:
salvation for the Oz. All open again come on england! :)
Congratulations to England. Perhaps one day they might be able to win without having a multi-national side ;)
Congratulations to England. Perhaps one day they might be able to win without having a multi-national side ;)
:lol: Would you have said "Congratulations Australia, you should have won it with a full Australian side though ;)" comment if Australia had won?
In essence, Lumb and Keiswetter played most of their cricket in England, and if you are learning the better half of your game in England, why not play for that country, its the country in which you were raised to play the game to your capability.
KP is different, as he had choices and he chose England, i doubt any team would reject him a place from their team now.
As for Morgan, its a shame Ireland are not a test nation, but once again, as he has spent most his time playing in the English county's developing his game, it would be fair to play for England.
:lol: Would you have said "Congratulations Australia, you should have won it with a full Australian side though ;)" comment if Australia had won?
In essence, Lumb and Keiswetter played most of their cricket in England, and if you are learning the better half of your game in England, why not play for that country, its the country in which you were raised to play the game to your capability.
KP is different, as he had choices and he chose England, i doubt any team would reject him a place from their team now.
As for Morgan, its a shame Ireland are not a test nation, but once again, as he has spent most his time playing in the English county's developing his game, it would be fair to play for England.
Yes because I've always considered Nannes to be Australian. Essentially he shouldn't be playing for them after playing for Holland but England have that situation and the other to a greater extent.
It should work as football does - once you represent a nation that's it irrespective of their level. That way at least Morgan and Kieswetter would be ineligible for England.
At least Nannes was born in Australia. Lumb, Kieswetter, Pietersen and Morgan certainly were not born in England.
Meh.
Yes because I've always considered Nannes to be Australian. Essentially he shouldn't be playing for them after playing for Holland but England have that situation and the other to a greater extent.
It should work as football does - once you represent a nation that's it irrespective of their level. That way at least Morgan and Kieswetter would be ineligible for England.
At least Nannes was born in Australia. Lumb, Kieswetter, Pietersen and Morgan certainly were not born in England.
Meh.
But if you were trained and raised to be the talent you are by a certain country, surely you feel that you should play for them as its the least you can do for the country?
AgentZero
18-05-2010, 00:35
tail firmly between my legs, the whole international scene for any sport is beyond ridiculous anyway in this day and age. Our greatest gold medal hopeful in Vancouver was a Russian, who had to be fast tracked to citizenship via serving in the army reserves.
muscularmatt
18-05-2010, 00:52
Meh.
Don't care about the rest of the post, but this sums up how I feel adequately.
Even though I shouldn't laugh - I was only about 5 yards away from the bloke who got knocked out of his wheelchair when Collingwood hit a six today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6-VA7W6afk
Great second innings so far for England.
muscularmatt
30-12-2010, 20:18
Anyone care about this anymore, then?
muscularmatt
07-01-2011, 02:04
Well fudge ya. Massive congrats to all the boys and the army down there, this really is a historic moment in sport. Unfortunately most of you younguns won't care because you'll be too busy playing on your xboxes and listening to hip hop whilst sending a txtage to some hoe.
Did Wales win the Ashes then?
Well done England on winning a 2 team tournament that took months to finish and ending up with a tiny pot of dirt.
Don't be dissing the Ashes, Bish!
Australia were terrible though. Definitely the worst Australian side I have seen in my lifetime.
And I know bad. My parents are from the West Indies!
Did Wales win the Ashes then?
Well done England on winning a 2 team tournament that took months to finish and ending up with a tiny pot of dirt.Ignorance is bliss eh? ;)
Phatmann
07-01-2011, 20:30
It's the England & Wales cricket team isn't it? even though it is almost always referred to as England.
Yup, bang on. Its referred to as England but its governed by the England and Wales Cricket Board. Its no wonder we've been shit in the past with Wales sticking their oar in.
muscularmatt
07-01-2011, 23:22
So strictly speaking, Wales did win the ashes didn't they???
Not one Welsh player though in the team.
Well done England on winning a 2 team tournament that took months to finish and ending up with a tiny pot of dirt.
:laugh:
Australia were terrible though. Definitely the worst Australian side I have seen in my lifetime.
A valid point being overlooked due to the fact that we actually won them in OZ.
So strictly speaking, Wales did win the ashes didn't they???
No. "Wales" & "win" never appear in the same sentence for any sport but rugby. And even then, rarely.
Yeah Matt, Wales definitely won the ashes.
AgentZero
09-02-2011, 04:12
im glad i was overseas for much of the Ashes...horrible stuff
muscularmatt
09-02-2011, 04:30
Yet the Aussies won the ODI series 6-1!?! Wtf is going here? Just as soon as you think it's safe to start supporting England...
Yet the Aussies won the ODI series 6-1!?! Wtf is going here? Just as soon as you think it's safe to start supporting England...
Aussies have always been great at ODI's, its just their test team which has taken a huge dip. We were bound to lose the One day games plus with Anderson and Broad out for the first few, its not surprising.
In honesty India have this world cup sewn up in my opinion, Flat pitches in india are batsmans paridice where the ball doesn't bounce and pace is only an advantage to the batsman. Spinners will only get something from it otherwise its a tournament for batsmen. Currently India have the strongest line up.
We have a decent line up, only issue is we have that tendency to collapes so easily and at the worst moments possible too. KP has been off it recently too. I see Swann as per usual being our main man due to the pitch being so flat.
So for any hope Swann must do the business.
AgentZero
10-02-2011, 02:28
i cant imagine what will happen to the Indians if they dont make the final.
i cant imagine what will happen to the Indians if they dont make the final.
effigies fo' sho'!
Anyone interested in the cricket then :erm:
muscularmatt
25-07-2011, 00:05
I am, hugely. I just never post on it because no one else seems to give a shit. I'm guessing you're alluding to England's enviable position ahead of the final day's play?
I am, hugely. I just never post on it because no one else seems to give a shit. I'm guessing you're alluding to England's enviable position ahead of the final day's play?
Correct. The india team is crumbling due to the lack of practice they had given them before this game and I can only see this game going our way.
muscularmatt
25-07-2011, 00:14
With our playing surfaces being so different to the ones on the subcontinent, it still doesn't feel like a 'proper' victory over the world number 1, does it? If we could beat them out there, then we'd be the shizzle.
EDIT - And yeah, course we'll win this test. Having to bat a whole day on very foreign soil already one wicket down and with one of your best batsman injured is a big ask for any side.
Jonno394
31-07-2011, 18:39
What a day to order Sky Sports! Brilliant batting display by Bell, Morgan, Prior and Bresnan.
The decision just before tea (Bell run out) was ridiculous and I was glad to see the Indian team reverse their appeal, but would Strauss have reversed it had the boot been on the other foot?
Bell was definitely out, but the circumstances surrounding it just did not sit well at all, had the decision remained, the rest of this test and series would have been played with a lot less respect and a lot more bad blood.
Kumar is a great character to watch bowl and interact with the England team. Great performances so far for a first tour of England.
The Indians don't deserve to be No.1 in the world. The fielding display so far this series has been horrible and the bowling is lacking. England will hopefully win the series by two tests and, deservedly, take the title off of them.
Fair play on the Bell incident though.
Jonno394
31-07-2011, 18:51
They're still one of the best teams in the world and they're number one in the world for a reason, these performances are not a norm for them.
I don't take anything for granted when it comes to England playing them.
The fielding and bowling has been lacking for a while now, it's usually just their amazing batting line-up which saves them. Will be interesting to see how they cope when these players begin retiring.
muscularmatt
01-08-2011, 01:23
You're forgetting the fact that they (India) are playing on very foreign soils. English and Indian pitches are vastly different. They'd wipe the floor with us out there.
You're forgetting the fact that they (India) are playing on very foreign soils. English and Indian pitches are vastly different. They'd wipe the floor with us out there.
I wouldn't be so sure. This Indian side is on the slide.
Jonno394
01-08-2011, 15:55
This has been an abysmal day for Indian batting!
Matt: If India smashed England out there then surely England and the fans could claim the same thing India and their supporters are right now "pitches are different etc.." it's just a way of looking for an excuse imo.
The whole idea of a tour is you go to a foriegn country, play on their pitches and adapt your game play to the conditions. If you can't do that and can only win on puitches you are used to, then what does it say about your game?
muscularmatt
01-08-2011, 16:09
Have we won yet? I've been away from the telly for ten minutes...
Jonno394
01-08-2011, 16:20
Nah, tendulkar has just got his fifty though. Got BBC live online updates in the background at work. I finish at 5 but I think we'll have bowled them out by the time I get home (6pm) so i'll probably miss the good stuf.
I wait for pakistan and Inda criket match its realy interested :)
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