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dennyz_0106
26-08-2008, 14:05
Guys recently I have decided to test out a new 4-3-3 formation (it slightly reassembles barca's 4-3-3). But since then, i found out that i couldn't really use it to the full potential consistently. I found that at times, my attacking quarters could just shred my brother's and friend's (I don't play the master league very often) defenses with amazing fluidity. But most of the time my passing in midfield and attack is sh*t, and the attackers and midfielders just don't link up at all. It seems that I all the attackers just stand there not moving. I still can't figure out how to fix this. can anyone help?




p.s This is getting bad because my LITTLE brother is winning me more often

dicky_t
12-09-2008, 00:14
i dont usually play 4-3-3 .simply because when your playing the ball out of defence you never seem to find an easy option to pass too and when you do the next man is so far away the pass to him gets picked off

and their we have the problem with 4-3-3 its disjointed not compact enough for simple passing ,so i use this style of play i use my full back to pass into the midfeild then pass blind foreward into the area where i anticipate my foreward to be usually this is the flank as it is less congested using my pass button then using the foreward i bring it back towards my goal bringing my midfeild into play i pass it inside to my midfeild and then accross to my other central midfeilder this gives time for my foreward to jog back into his posistion and brings my other forewards into play with a simple ball, but what i would say is you must constantly use the simple pass to feet ,dont use through ball untill you are abseloutley sure otherwise the opposistion will just pick your passes off and blitz through your open midfeild .

tomhart9
12-09-2008, 17:12
I use 4-3-3 but with df midfielder to stay back so you have cover when the midfield push up

The Eristic
14-09-2008, 08:50
One of my ML teams uses 4-3-3 exclusively.

Depending on who I'm playing:

Balance (CMF needs to have great stamina, decent pace and passing, like a Machado, Kaiser, Reo-Coker, DMF needs to be a "destroyer", ie, Bradley, Bianchi, Makelele, Mascherano, etc...):

-----CB----CB-------
RB---------------LB-
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-----DMF------------
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-----------CMF------
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------AMF-----------
-----------------LWF
RWF-----------------
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---------CF----------
___________________

Thermopylae (one pure "destroyer" DMF sitting deep, another both solid defensively and EXCELLENT in passing/playmaking slightly ahead, like Alonso, Pirlo, Aaltonen, etc...):

-----CB----CB-------
RB---------------LB-
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-----DMF------------
-----------DMF------
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--------AMF---------
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RWF-------------LWF
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---------CF----------
___________________

That Holding Bastard (you need a scary motherfucker of a DMF to make this one work in Top Player. Someone like a developed Huddlestone, Heitinga, Bos, De Jong, Vanden Borre, who can break up play, pass, create, attack themselves, and still comfortably get the hell back to cover. Your enemies will learn to fear your DMF, because he's damn hard to knock of the ball, his shots from the top of the box readily and routinely break fingers, and he's basically omnipresent. Seriously, I've had some of these cats score 20 a season.)

-----CB----CB-------
RB---------------LB-
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--------DMF---------
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-----AMF------------
------------AMF-----
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RWF-------------LWF
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---------CF----------
___________________

dennyz_0106
11-10-2008, 04:52
Thanks for all the advice. I tried using wingers though, and they always suck. I usuallly get 5.0's and stuff like that. help?

ProEvoISS
15-10-2008, 16:08
Try using wingbacks rather than wingers, so you have a 5 man defence when you don't have the ball and a 5 man midfield when you do. That should give you an easier transition from attack to defence as very few people play with very wide full backs. Example ( as if playing vs a 4-4-2 ) ;

Van Der Sarr

Ferdinand Vidic Neville

Evra Brown

Nani Carrick Ronaldo

Rooney Berbatov

( Used Man Utd because its the most globaly known first 11 I'd think )

With your midfield tucked in tight the majority of players ( I find ) tend to use their right/left midfielders to track Nani and Ronaldo with 1 man to track Carrick leaving them an extra man in central area's, this is where 3 centre halves come in handy. By doing this tho they are leaving wide open spaces for Evra and Brown to bomb on and get 1 on 1 with the opposing full backs, negating the midfield cover is the main tactic in using wing backs. You still have a 3 man midfield while you are defending however when ur attacking you are using 7 players rather than 6 and ultimately this is going to leave someone free at some point.

It's just something I have found usefull in combating the 4-4-2 with a holding midfielder. Other people will have different opinions ofcourse.

The Eristic
15-10-2008, 17:39
Thanks for all the advice. I tried using wingers though, and they always suck. I usuallly get 5.0's and stuff like that. help?

You've got to be really aggressive with them, and learn enough skills to successfully take on defenders. You're not going to get much support unless you have either highly attack-minded fullbacks or two attacking midfielders, so you must learn to take defenders on consistently and either beat them out wide to cross or cut inside to shoot or move a central defender out of position. You need to be using Walcott, Nani, and similar extremely pacey players with tricky feet to be most effective.

Also, at times, it helps to play one WF and one wide SS on the opposite side (or, if symmetry matters to you, two very wide SS's with at least one diagonally wide attack arrow). The range that an SS covers comes in handy when trying pick up any inaccurate crosses and loose balls being sent in by the winger (a WF on the other side will often just camp out at the far post, or near the opposite flank's touchline when the game is being stupid [which is often]).