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Miggy
28-08-2008, 12:51
The draw will be made at 17:00 this afternoon.

Bombo 1
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Chelsea (ENG) 124.996 puntos
Liverpool (ENG) 118.996
FC Barcelona (ESP) 117.837
Arsenal (ENG) 110.996
Manchester United (ENG) 107.996
Olympique de Lyon (FRA) 99.380
Inter de Milán (ITA) 96.934
Real Madrid (ESP) 93.837

Bombo 2
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Bayern de Munich (GER) 92.078
PSV Eindhoven (NED) 91.160
Villarreal (ESP) 90.387
AS Roma (ITA) 81.934
Oporto (POR) 81.176
Werder Bremen (GER) 74.078
Sporting de Lisboa (POR) 67.176
Juventus de Turín (ITA) 66.934

Bombo 3
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Olympique Marsella (FRA) 63.380
Zenit de San Petersburgo (RUS) 60.437
Steaua de Bucarest (RUM) 59.398
Panathinaikos (GRE) 52.525
Girondins de Burdeos (FRA) 52.380
Celtic de Glasgow (ESC) 52.013
Basilea (SUI) 51.993
Fenerbahçe (TUR) 51.469

Bombo 4
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Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) 49.932
Fiorentina (ITA) 40.934
Dinamo de Kiev (UKR) 34.932
Atlético de Madrid (ESP) 36.837
CFR Cluj (ROU) 13.398
Aab Aalborg (DEN) 12.748
Anorthosis (CYP) 4.327
BATE Borisov (BLR) 1.980.

Looking at that the ideal draw for us would be

Bremen/Sporting
Celtic/Basle
BATE

ads
28-08-2008, 12:56
Well done to BATE to be honest. First Belarusian team into the CL. Be good to see Barca draw them actually, Aleksandr Hleb and all that.

Cannon ball
28-08-2008, 13:10
Well done to BATE to be honest. First Belarusian team into the CL. Be good to see Barca draw them actually, Aleksandr Hleb and all that.

Same here. Anorthosis aswell, Ketsbaia is their manager.

ads
28-08-2008, 13:11
Same here. Anorthosis aswell, Ketsbaia is their manager.

Yeah true, wonder if he'll abuse the advertisement hoardings if his team score a late winner...

:lol:

Berry
28-08-2008, 13:12
Looking forward to this year's Champions League :cool: If we avoid Bayern Munich, Zenit Petersburg, Atletico Madrid in the draw then we should be fine :)

Cannon ball
28-08-2008, 13:14
Yeah true, wonder if he'll abuse the advertisement hoardings if his team score a late winner...

:lol:

I loved that goal celebration. He really let it all out.

Sweey
28-08-2008, 13:16
Tougest draw for a top seed would probably be Bayern Munich/Porto, Zenit St Petersburg and Atletico Madrid/Fiorentina.

ads
28-08-2008, 13:17
Yeah I only just realised the strength of pots 3 and 4, don't get me wrong, if you reach this stage you're certainly no mugs, but it's shaping up like there'll be a cracking 'Group of Death'

Barry
28-08-2008, 13:20
I'm hoping for Villareal, Panathinaikos and BATE Borisov.


What? Ajax isn't in the draw?

Miggy
28-08-2008, 13:20
Real
Bayern
Zenit
Fiorentina

Please!

ads
28-08-2008, 13:22
Real
Bayern
Zenit
Fiorentina

Please!

:w00t

How great would that be!?


I'm hoping for Villareal, Panathinaikos and BATE Borisov.


What? Ajax isn't in the draw?

:chanlaugh:

Joel
28-08-2008, 13:32
Two years ago we were not even in Pot 1, now we have the most points :smug:

You try to look for an easy draw, but it is really hard to find them this year.

Looking forward to the draw today. Always enjoy them regardless what happens.

Rambo
28-08-2008, 13:33
I'm certain we'll get Roma again.

Miggy
28-08-2008, 13:34
Two years ago we were not even in Pot 1, now we have the most points :smug:


http://www.russiablog.org/roman-abramovich.jpg

50!
28-08-2008, 13:47
Who wants to bet Arsenal get a piss easy group?

Miggy
28-08-2008, 13:48
Who wants to bet Arsenal get a piss easy group?

I bet Liverpool do yet still struggle.

Miggy
28-08-2008, 17:26
Sporting ;)

NikWebb
28-08-2008, 17:34
Psv again :D

Haribo
28-08-2008, 17:37
Real, Juventus and Zenit. :mellow:

EDIT: Celtic :lol:

Miggy
28-08-2008, 17:41
Looking at that the ideal draw for us would be

Bremen/Sporting
Celtic/Basle
BATE

Hahaha. C'mon! Just BATE to go.

Foxhound
28-08-2008, 17:46
Group E

Manchester United
Villarreal
Celtic
AAB Aalborg

Miggy
28-08-2008, 17:47
Group E

Manchester United
Villarreal
Celtic
AAB Aalborg

That's probably how it'll finish too.

NikWebb
28-08-2008, 17:49
ahh pants

Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
At Madrid

not the hardest but not the easiest to get through all four could go through

Miggy
28-08-2008, 17:52
Group A
Chelsea
Roma
Bordeaux
CFR Cluj


Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis


Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
FC Basle


Group D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Atletico Madrid


Group E
Manchester United
Villareal
Celtic
Aalborg


Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucharest
Fiorentina


Group G
Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbahce
Dynamo Kiev


Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
Zenit St Petersburg

Joel
28-08-2008, 17:52
Very happy with our draw.

TOTTI at the Bridge :w00t

NikWebb
28-08-2008, 17:54
Group A
Chelsea
Roma
Bordeaux
CFR Cluj


Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis


Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
FC Basle


Group D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Atletico Madrid


Group E
Manchester United
Villareal
Celtic
Aalborg


Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucharest
Fiorentina


Group G
Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbahce
Dynamo Kiev


Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
Zenit St Petersburg


Shakhtar Donetsk the other team in group C

BATE the other team in group H

Sweey
28-08-2008, 18:33
Tough times for Juventus and Fiorentina! Roma and Inter should be ashamed if they are eliminated from the group phase with all due respect to their opponents.

BATE Borisov's present for getting this far is rape.

Berry
28-08-2008, 19:15
About time Liverpool got a tough group :chanlaugh:

I'm confident Arsenal will win their group, or at least qualify for knockout round.

NikWebb
28-08-2008, 19:21
Arsenal should easily win there group porto are the only team that should challenge them.

Original?
28-08-2008, 20:00
Juventus will struggle, I'd be delighted if we make it through.

Sho
28-08-2008, 21:17
Group A
Chelsea
Roma
Bordeaux
CFR Cluj


Group B
Inter Milan
Werder Bremen
Panathinaikos
Anorthosis


Group C
Barcelona
Sporting Lisbon
FC Basle


Group D
Liverpool
PSV
Marseille
Atletico Madrid


Group E
Manchester United
Villareal
Celtic
Aalborg


Group F
Lyon
Bayern Munich
Steaua Bucharest
Fiorentina


Group G
Arsenal
Porto
Fenerbahce
Dynamo Kiev


Group H
Real Madrid
Juventus
Zenit St Petersburg
We better watch out for Porto in there.

Overall i'm happy tbh.

:happy:

Dragonfly
29-08-2008, 02:39
Roma and Inter should be ashamed if they are eliminated from the group phase with all due respect to their opponents.

Bordeaux could be this season's dark horses (taking PSV's place). Laurent Blanc has done a great job in a short time and I can see them taking Lyon to the two weeks in the league. So, I think it's highly realistic to see them qualify from the group.

I'd love it if Liverpool get knocked out.

We've got a real tough group, though. It's possibly the most even out of the lot. I'm confident we'll qualify though.

AgentZero
29-08-2008, 05:48
Torres against his old club...love it if the bin dippers dont qualify.

ads
29-08-2008, 10:09
'mon Kets

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00376/Ketsbaia_666x390_376661a.jpg

nev1612
19-12-2008, 09:19
Well it's the draw today.

Hopefully there will be a live stream on skysports.com like last time!!

Dundon's
19-12-2008, 09:31
What's time is this thing happening?, it was around the 1 o clock mark last year as far as I can remember.

HH
19-12-2008, 09:59
10 I think

nickpring
19-12-2008, 10:14
The show comes on at 10.30, but, the draw takes place at 11.

Dundon's
19-12-2008, 11:06
They're going through the motions now.

Sweey
19-12-2008, 11:12
Chelsea-Juventus :shocking:

HH
19-12-2008, 11:12
Oiii mateyy. Chelski Juve.

Ranieri is back at the Bridge

Rambo
19-12-2008, 11:16
FFS I desperately wanted Real, fucking pissed.

HH
19-12-2008, 11:17
Mourinho got what he wanted then.

Papa
19-12-2008, 11:19
Chelsea v Juventus
Villarreal v Panathinaikos
Sporting Lisbon v Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid v Porto
Lyon v Barcelona
Real Madrid v Liverpool
Arsenal v Roma
Inter Milan v Manchester United

Some good matches there.

Joel
19-12-2008, 11:25
Well I called the Chelsea vs Juventus match since yesterday in the Juventus thread. Not surprised at all. Will be two great games.

Got a real England vs Italy feel to this draw.

Ziss
19-12-2008, 11:26
Anyone else us the Sky Sports website, and notice how they listed Werder Bremen rather than Panithinaikos? :D

Viperized
19-12-2008, 11:39
Great draws all around.

Berry
19-12-2008, 12:37
Chelsea v Juventus
Villarreal v Panathinaikos
Sporting Lisbon v Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid v Porto
Lyon v Barcelona
Real Madrid v Liverpool
Arsenal v Roma
Inter Milan v Manchester United

Some good matches there.

Wow, what a draw :w00t I can't wait to see Real Madrid take on L'Pool & Inter take on United :happy: Should be great entertainment.

I'm happy with Roma to be honest. At least we didn't get Barca or Real :ninja:

L . F . C
19-12-2008, 12:38
I think Liverpool can easily go through. Madrid are not what they used to be.

And if we raise our game like we did against Chelsea, then I expect 2-0 at Anfield and 2-1 to us an the Bernabau.

Joel
19-12-2008, 12:39
A lot can change between now and February, so all teams current form should not be taken into account.

Billy Minof
19-12-2008, 12:48
FFS I desperately wanted Real, fucking pissed.

Make it through to the Quarters and you may get your wish.....bring it on.

Chelsea v Juventus
Villarreal v Panathinaikos
Sporting Lisbon v Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid v Porto
Lyon v Barcelona
Real Madrid v Liverpool
Arsenal v Roma
Inter Milan v Manchester United

Some good matches there.

Really looking forward to all these matches, The Pool eh....very confident. :happy:

Lorenzinho
19-12-2008, 13:13
A lot can change between now and February, so all teams current form should not be taken into account.

That's true. Also, hopefully Juventus will have bought an absolute hero in the January transfer window.

Joel
19-12-2008, 13:45
That's true. Also, hopefully Juventus will have bought an absolute hero in the January transfer window.

You already have one - The man in your avatar. Of course he is no Totti, but he is pretty damn good if you ask me ;)

Looking forward to the games. Just hope we don't give any free kicks away in good positions!

Sweey
19-12-2008, 13:46
Why am I expecting Del Piero to be injured by the time those games come around? SuperGay might be back though and there's always Nedved who clearly doesn't know when to give it up.

Viperized
19-12-2008, 14:07
Why am I expecting Del Piero to be injured by the time those games come around? SuperGay might be back though and there's always Nedved who clearly doesn't know when to give it up.
Who?

Joel
19-12-2008, 14:18
Why am I expecting Del Piero to be injured by the time those games come around? SuperGay might be back though and there's always Nedved who clearly doesn't know when to give it up.

Hopefully Del Piero isn't injured. It would be nice for both teams will be fully fit.

Who?

Trezeguet.

Wan
19-12-2008, 14:58
SuperGay :lol:

Buffon will be back in action by January.

Figо10
19-12-2008, 15:13
Some mouthwatering draws obviously but not the happiest that big teams like Inter or United could be exiting the competition at this early stage while Villareal and Athletico Madrid make the quarters.

At least most ties could go either way, the only exception being the Bayern-Sporting one.

fick
19-12-2008, 15:41
Buffon will be back in action by January.

At the City of Manchester Stadium... :ninja:

Usul
19-12-2008, 17:14
Some mouthwatering draws obviously but not the happiest that big teams like Inter or United could be exiting the competition at this early stage while Villareal and Athletico Madrid make the quarters.
They're both more than worthy.

Villarreal would be a match for any squad, including United, which were not able to get much out of them in the previous round. :rolleyes:

Barry
19-12-2008, 18:38
Lyon - Barcelona looks good, though I fear Barcelona is just too strong. I'd definitely put a sneaky punt on Liverpool, somehow they always scrape through.

Not much that has my interest.

Sweey
19-12-2008, 18:40
Lyon - Barcelona looks good, though I fear Barcelona is just too strong. I'd definitely put a sneaky punt on Liverpool, somehow they always scrape through.

Not much that has my interest.

We both know where the real action is!

Barry
19-12-2008, 18:54
We both know where the real action is!

Right on the money! :D How good is Fiorentina really?

Sweey
19-12-2008, 18:55
Right on the money! :D How good is Fiorentina really?

Away from home, pretty dismal. They made too many changes in the summer and it isn't working yet. Vargas has been particularly disappointing. Gilardino and Mutu need to be watched, as always, and Jovetic looks impressive but just can't get the goals he deserves.

LFCPower
19-12-2008, 19:04
Glad that we got Real, we in it to win it and i belive that they fear us more than we fear them or anyone else,

Phil W.A.F.C
19-12-2008, 19:40
Glad that we got Real, we in it to win it and i belive that they fear us more than we fear them or anyone else,

With Huntelaar on his way and possibly Diarra i think it will be difficult for Liverpool.

Ranieri against his old club, Rafa and many other players going to the home country and Fergie VS Mourinho, this draw has a few connections :ninja:.

LFCPower
19-12-2008, 20:21
With Huntelaar on his way and possibly Diarra i think it will be difficult for Liverpool.

Ranieri against his old club, Rafa and many other players going to the home country and Fergie VS Mourinho, this draw has a few connections :ninja:.

Huntelaar is on to watch like but am telling you now that they will have to be at there very very best because Rafa has this thing in Europe were at times we get battered and come away with the win

Dale C.
19-12-2008, 20:24
Liverpool - out

Arsenal - out

Chelsea - out

Man utd - Through

Looks like a pretty shit draw for english teams if you ask me...not that you did though :D

Berry
19-12-2008, 20:56
Liverpool - out

Arsenal - out

Chelsea - out

Man utd - Through

Looks like a pretty shit draw for english teams if you ask me...not that you did though :D

No way. Out of all the ties the 'big 4' have got, I'd say Arsenal will win, Liverpool may get KO'd by Madrid, Chelsea to win if all their squad is fit and available. Man United's game aint easy either. Inter are a fantastic team, and rise to the occasion. United will have to up their game if they want to get anything out of this match. Jose Mourinho aswell, he has a great record up against Fergie :D It's the tie Jose wanted.

Rambo
19-12-2008, 20:57
With Huntelaar on his way and possibly Diarra i think it will be difficult for Liverpool.

Ranieri against his old club, Rafa and many other players going to the home country and Fergie VS Mourinho, this draw has a few connections :ninja:.

Is Huntelaar ilegible to play? I remember he played in the UEFA Cup for Ajax. Even if he was I don't think Liverpool have anything to worry about.

Berry
19-12-2008, 20:59
Is Huntelaar ilegible to play? I remember he played in the UEFA Cup for Ajax. Even if he was I don't think Liverpool have anything to worry about.

Don explained this earlier: http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1401975&postcount=10056

Dale C.
19-12-2008, 21:47
It's the tie Jose wanted.

Man its weird that he actually said 'I want to play manchester united'


He really is the special one :erm:

Sweey
19-12-2008, 22:07
Mourinho always says he wants to face the best after he's drawn against them. To be fair, sometimes, occasionally, he might suggest it beforehand because it fits his philosophy, even if he doesn't want to face them.

Inter rising to the occasion? That's clearly not right. The last two times they were starting to impress in the CL they got beaten by Milan. Since then they've looked good and then imploded big time.

Juventus are the strongest of the three Italian sides when it comes to European matches.

Miggy
19-12-2008, 22:18
Pleased about the draw. We did them last year with a weaker team so I'm confident we can do it again, especially with the return leg at the Camp Nou.

Villareal have a good chance of progressing and so do Atlético. Overall it was a good draw for the Spanish clubs.

LFCPower
19-12-2008, 22:29
liverpool and man u will go throu, arsenal should win, chelsea have got a hard one but they win,

there will be 2 out of 4 english teams in the semi, for people who write liverpool off keep doing so as that gives us the momentum to keep proving everyone wrong, like when we win the league for the 19 time

Miggy
19-12-2008, 22:32
Is there anyway Madrid and Liverpool can both go out this round?

ATH10
20-12-2008, 00:45
Gutted mate.

Dundon's
20-12-2008, 01:11
Liverpool - out

Arsenal - out

Chelsea - out

Man utd - Through

Looks like a pretty shit draw for english teams if you ask me...not that you did though :D

Are you on drugs?

mufcsean
20-12-2008, 01:22
Really didn't want Inter but I must say I think they will be great matches, looking forward to The Liverpool - Real match aswell.

Phil W.A.F.C
20-12-2008, 02:08
Is Huntelaar ilegible to play? I remember he played in the UEFA Cup for Ajax. Even if he was I don't think Liverpool have anything to worry about.

He would be eligible because Ajax havn't played in the Champions League this season. Why wouldn't Liverpool be scared? With that shit basterd Carragher at the back Liverpool would be scared of Dean Windass.

L . F . C
20-12-2008, 09:35
He would be eligible because Ajax havn't played in the Champions League this season. Why wouldn't Liverpool be scared? With that shit basterd Carragher at the back Liverpool would be scared of Dean Windass.

I suppose Titus and co are much better in your opinion?

Dale C.
20-12-2008, 10:52
Are you on drugs?

Why on earth would I be on drugs?

Thats just what i think is going to happen, calle me crazy.... Drugs are for idiots, remember that


Kids, call frank!

CaptainCabinet
20-12-2008, 11:03
Is there anyway Madrid and Liverpool can both go out this round?

We can but hope.

Phil W.A.F.C
20-12-2008, 12:15
I suppose Titus and co are much better in your opinion?

I wondered how long it would be all blown back on Wigan, you never fail to suprise me :erm:.

LFCPower
20-12-2008, 16:01
He would be eligible because Ajax havn't played in the Champions League this season. Why wouldn't Liverpool be scared? With that shit basterd Carragher at the back Liverpool would be scared of Dean Windass.

Are you on Smack or somthing, Carragher has been one of the worlds most consitant players for the last 5/6 seasons and he makes one or two mistakes and people write shit about him.

apart from terry name anther english centre back whos in the same league as him

Berry
20-12-2008, 16:02
Rio Ferdinand?

LFCPower
20-12-2008, 16:09
Rio Ferdinand?

Hes good but makes alot more mestakes than terry or Carra

Miggy
20-12-2008, 16:12
Rio Ferdinand is a superior defender to Terry and Carragher. More so Carragher. He was immense for United last season.

Berry
20-12-2008, 16:12
Rio Ferdinand is a superior defender to Terry and Carragher. More so Carragher. He was immense for United last season.

Exactly. Sorry LFC but you're wrong.

In my opinion Terry and Rio are both better than Carragher.

Wan
20-12-2008, 16:12
More than Carra? Are you sure LFC?

LFCPower
20-12-2008, 17:02
I watch Carra week in and week out and its just what i think, other people may think different, i belive what i say but am going to defend Carra to the def for the amount of times hes kept us in games and his never say die attatude,

nickpring
20-12-2008, 17:07
I'm not too disappointed that we drew Juventus to be honest, it's going to be a great contest, but, I think we'll have the edge over them. It could've been a lot worse than that as well.

Haribo
20-12-2008, 17:35
Are you on Smack or somthing, Carragher has been one of the worlds most consitant players for the last 5/6 seasons
Consistently shit, yes. :faceplm:

God I hope Real Madrid hammer Liverpool. They may have annoyed me in the whole 'Ronaldo saga', but they can never annoy me more than Liverpool. Get them eliminated before they can start thinking of "6 times" in this campaign.

Phil W.A.F.C
20-12-2008, 18:15
Are you on Smack or somthing, Carragher has been one of the worlds most consitant players for the last 5/6 seasons and he makes one or two mistakes and people write shit about him.

apart from terry name anther english centre back whos in the same league as him

Rio Ferdinand pisses on em both mate, let's be serious.

Wan
20-12-2008, 18:20
I hope we can beat Juventus at home, 'cause we'll not beat them on away. :faceplm:

Sweey
25-02-2009, 21:38
Sporting Lisbon :erm:

Dale C.
25-02-2009, 21:42
ahh this is the one I was looking for


Bayern munich are sikk bluddd

Bish
25-02-2009, 21:47
I remember at the start of the season, Wenger tipped Bayern to be darkhorses for the cup. They could go far, not sure if they have enough to win it though.

Miggy
25-02-2009, 21:48
Sporting still have a chance!!

Just the six goals they need.

Sweey
25-02-2009, 21:49
I remember at the start of the season, Wenger tipped Bayern to be darkhorses for the cup. They could go far, not sure if they have enough to win it though.

Klose-Toni backed up by Ribery is frightening though. Unless you're Hoffenheim, its before Chirstmas and Ibisevic is scoring tons.

AgentZero
25-02-2009, 22:32
Dunno if Chelsea can cling on to Juve. The start was impressive but the lack of quality on the bench wont do them any favours. Mancienne playing out of position wasnt too bad.

Joel
25-02-2009, 22:36
Dunno if Chelsea can cling on to Juve. The start was impressive but the lack of quality on the bench wont do them any favours. Mancienne playing out of position wasnt too bad.

We will be a lot more fre in the second leg due to nott having to worry about conceding an away goal, and the fact that Juventus must attack us.

Of course Juventus are a very talented side and are capable of beating us 2-0. It is going to be interesting, but I'm happy with what we achieved tonight.

And I'd kill to have Ribery on my wing next season.

Figо10
26-02-2009, 03:16
Incredible scoreline for Bayern.

Other than that all ties still look alive, though Barcelona and Liverpool look to be in strong positions to qualify. Numerous clean sheets but hopefully it'll be more open in the second leg.

Best goal of this matchweek's gotta be Juninho against Barca. Reminiscent of Figo against Barthez in 2002-03. Valdes :lol:

The Eristic
26-02-2009, 03:56
Best goal of this matchweek's gotta be Juninho against Barca.

Absolutely.

Everyone on the FSC boards were going on about how "class" Ronaldo's FK against Blackburn was, while myself and a few others contended that, while a good shot on goal, it was more lousy goalkeeping by Paul Robinson than anything else.

Juninho, on the other hand, demonstrated what a "class" free kick from that sort of angle really ought to be. Outrageous, especially that final dip. :shocking:

Miguel SC
26-02-2009, 14:18
Sporting is such a joke, they don't deserve to play in such a high level.

Figо10
26-02-2009, 14:40
Sporting is such a joke, they don't deserve to play in such a high level.
12 group stage points would have required a pretty good performance in Europe. Probably the most one-sided tie in the first knockout round, but I wouldn't have bet on Bayern with my eyes closed for the first leg.

Mullet Taylor
26-02-2009, 14:42
Incredible scoreline for Bayern.

Other than that all ties still look alive, though Barcelona and Liverpool look to be in strong positions to qualify. Numerous clean sheets but hopefully it'll be more open in the second leg.

Best goal of this matchweek's gotta be Juninho against Barca. Reminiscent of Figo against Barthez in 2002-03. Valdes :lol:

i think figo's goal was better cause it was in open play

poor fabs, that tie was the final nail in his man utd career

Figо10
26-02-2009, 14:46
i think figo's goal was better cause it was in open play

poor fabs, that tie was the final nail in his man utd career
He probably thought so until Ronaldo turned up at Old Trafford :no:

HH
10-03-2009, 21:05
Its turning out to be an interesting night.

Liverpool leading, Juve leading, Bayern Leading.

Sweey
10-03-2009, 21:22
Bayern are long gone. Juventus need a second as quickly as possible on the basis a Chelsea goal will require them to get three. One mistake and they're in deep shit as it stands.

Real Madrid can't do anything right. Hate them, hate Liverpool but I wanted Real through from the tie so someone could do them over in the quarter-finals while Liverpool imploded.

EDIT: Bloody hell, Bayern 4-1 up in the second leg.

Original?
10-03-2009, 21:36
Bayern are long gone. Juventus need a second as quickly as possible on the basis a Chelsea goal will require them to get three. One mistake and they're in deep shit as it stands.


Lucky cunts, entirely undeserved. The free kick wasn't a free kick, the ball didn't cross the line and Lampard's shot took a ridiculous deflection. The opposite of our beautifully worked goal.

Miggy
10-03-2009, 21:39
I'd be ashamed to be a Sporting fan right now. That's just taking the piss. 9-1 agg.

Papa
10-03-2009, 21:41
I'd be ashamed to be a Sporting fan right now. That's just taking the piss. 9-1 agg.

I have a soft spot for them. Not so soft anymore!

No I'm kidding, I'm not so fickle but still it really is embarrassing.

Bish
10-03-2009, 21:45
Lucky cunts, entirely undeserved. The free kick wasn't a free kick, the ball didn't cross the line and Lampard's shot took a ridiculous deflection. The opposite of our beautifully worked goal.

What a surprise.

As for Sporting, shameful.

Miggy
10-03-2009, 21:46
Lyon 10 - 2 Werder. Thats the record to beat right?

Bish
10-03-2009, 22:16
Sexy pen from Del Boy. Still didn't see what Chiellini did wrong.

Ghost
10-03-2009, 22:31
Sporting :lol:

Sweey
10-03-2009, 22:34
I turned off the Juve game at half time. Fucking sick that I have to pin my hopes on Roma (weak in Europe) and the continental version of Inter Milan - a pile of shite.

I'm going to want to kill any stupid pundit who claims Bayern Munich aren't a threat to the English sides. No other team would've stuck 12 past Sporting.

Twelve...fucking hell.

Come on Barcelona/Bayern/Roma/Inter

In fact, can I predict now that Inter will be inept again tomorrow?

Papa
10-03-2009, 22:36
Just the 4 they need now.

Slightly feeling ashamed. These are 2nd in La Liga :/

Sporting are third in Liga Sagres.

Mjällharth
10-03-2009, 22:38
Some morbidly big scorelines today indeed.

Miggy
10-03-2009, 22:38
Well at least Villareal came away with a brilliant result. I'd feel sick to the stomach if we lose La Liga to Real Madrid.

Bring on tomorrow night :)

Original?
10-03-2009, 22:42
Fucking horrible, Chiellini did nothing wrong... Pleat is a retarded cancerous cunt, he spreads across the entire coverage and infects everything he comes into contact with. The ironic aspect of the tie is that Chelsea will be applauded and Juventus will still be regarded as the typical Catenaccio Italians. Over the two legs Juventus were the better side, but fortune smiled upon Chelsea but I defy anyone to suggest they played particularly well. It goes that way sometimes, but it is going to annoy me that the press will not portray the real way the game unfolded.

Giovinco showed more talent in his cameo than the majority of Chelsea did in the whole match, Drogba, Cole and Mikel are also disgusting human beings.

[Edit] Robbie Earl is another idiot on ITV payroll.

Bish
10-03-2009, 22:46
I only saw the 2nd half but from what I saw, Juventus looked slightly the better side, even after the sending off. Fine margins yet again play a part in Europe.

I'm looking forward to watching Bayern in the next round, not many will be overly pleased to play them.

As for tomorrow, I'm a bit more optimistic with the likes of Walcott and Eduardo back in the fold. If we score, it should be enough.

Cobinho
10-03-2009, 22:46
Both Liverpool and Chelsea deserved thier victories they were the better teams. I thought 3/4 would go through before and I maintain this Inter should knock Utd out.

Sweey
10-03-2009, 22:48
I only saw the 2nd half but from what I saw, Juventus looked slightly the better side, even after the sending off. Fine margins yet again play a part in Europe.

I'm looking forward to watching Bayern in the next round, not many will be overly pleased to play them.

As for tomorrow, I'm a bit more optimistic with the likes of Walcott and Eduardo back in the fold. If we score, it should be enough.

You'll get lots of chances. All a matter of whether you put any way or not and there's no guarantee Roma will although Totti is somehow fit. Not sure if I should watch Roma, Inter or avoid all of the games like I did tonight since half-time.

Waterloo Road will keep me occupied for an hour tomorrow.

Original?
10-03-2009, 22:53
Both Liverpool and Chelsea deserved thier victories they were the better teams. I thought 3/4 would go through before and I maintain this Inter should knock Utd out.

How can you say that? Chelsea and Juventus were neck and neck all the way and the decider was fortune, that's the way things go. It's delusional comments like yours and the coverage in the English press that annoys me.

Joel
10-03-2009, 22:55
Sexy pen from Del Boy. Still didn't see what Chiellini did wrong.

Horrible tackle on Drogba first and then was rude to the referee. But maybe being rude to the referee is only bad when Ashley Cole does it, I'm not sure.

Fucking horrible, Chiellini did nothing wrong... Pleat is a retarded cancerous cunt, he spreads across the entire coverage and infects everything he comes into contact with. The ironic aspect of the tie is that Chelsea will be applauded and Juventus will still be regarded as the typical Catenaccio Italians. Over the two legs Juventus were the better side, but fortune smiled upon Chelsea but I defy anyone to suggest they played particularly well. It goes that way sometimes, but it is going to annoy me that the press will not portray the real way the game unfolded.

Giovinco showed more talent in his cameo than the majority of Chelsea did in the whole match, Drogba, Cole and Mikel are also disgusting human beings.

[Edit] Robbie Earl is another idiot on ITV payroll.

I agree that Juventus played the better football, but neither team created many clear cut chances. On another night it could have been a very different outcome.

If we're going to name disgusting human beings, then surely Chiellini and Molinaro should fall into that category!

I wish things could be different and we didn't have to meet at this stage. I respect your club and with Ranieri and Tiago there, I do hope that you do well. All the best to you in Serie A, except when you play Roma!

Bish
10-03-2009, 22:59
Horrible tackle on Drogba first and then was rude to the referee. But maybe being rude to the referee is only bad when Ashley Cole does it, I'm not sure.


:D Easy mate, I was literally asking what he did cos I didn't actually see what happened.

Was pleased for Essien to get his goal. Having him and Carvalho back immediately makes Chelsea look a real force again.

uA - 1905
10-03-2009, 23:00
I wonder if the scoreline had been different if the 'referee' didn't award the first two goals to Liverpool.

Cobinho
10-03-2009, 23:01
How can you say that? Chelsea and Juventus were neck and neck all the way and the decider was fortune, that's the way things go. It's delusional comments like yours and the coverage in the English press that annoys me.

Well Chelsea were better in the first leg. This allowed them the opportunity not to force the issue. Which is why they went with a 4 instead of 3 in midfield. The game played out how Hiddink would have liked. Even in the spells Juve put the under pressure it was usually areas Chelsea would have liked. Chelsea clearly had an extra gear in them.

Miggy
10-03-2009, 23:03
I wonder if the scoreline had been different if the 'referee' didn't award the first two goals to Liverpool.

I don't know the goals looked like they were going to come no matter what. Casillas had made a few good saves before they got the first. Madrid were fucking shit bar Iker and Diarra.

Original?
10-03-2009, 23:06
Horrible tackle on Drogba first and then was rude to the referee. But maybe being rude to the referee is only bad when Ashley Cole does it, I'm not sure.

I agree that Juventus played the better football, but neither team created many clear cut chances. On another night it could have been a very different outcome.

If we're going to name disgusting human beings, then surely Chiellini and Molinaro should fall into that category!

I wish things could be different and we didn't have to meet at this stage. I respect your club and with Ranieri and Tiago there, I do hope that you do well. All the best to you in Serie A, except when you play Roma!

Chiellini's second card was officially for the challenge, that's not right. What did he say to the referee? If he was sent off for that, three or four Chelsea players should have been booked for the penalty incident alone. Cech should also have been sent off, intentionally handling outside the area is a red not a yellow card, either it wasn't a free kick or was a sending off. The referee was atrocious tonight.

Cole is a horrible human on account of his diving and detestable personality.

Molinaro was petulent on Essien I can't, and don't wish to, defend that. The first Chiellini challenge on Drogba was a booking, the second was excellent however. Drogba's 'challenge' on Giovinco was a perfect example of why he's a cunt.

I don't begrudge Chelsea the win, I do however get annoyed at the coverage and the plastic fans who will bathe in the victory.

Well Chelsea were better in the first leg. This allowed them the opportunity not to force the issue. Which is why they went with a 4 instead of 3 in midfield. The game played out how Hiddink would have liked. Even in the spells Juve put the under pressure it was usually areas Chelsea would have liked. Chelsea clearly had an extra gear in them.

Chelsea were not the better side in the first leg, they were again lucky not to concede on a number of occasions. The entire tie was immensely close and only someone who didn't watch the entirety of both legs would argue otherwise unless they were delusional or on the payroll of the British press.

Charlie
10-03-2009, 23:10
Madrid were fucking shit bar Iker and Diarra.

I agree, Diarra was the only outfield player trying, and Casillas could only keep so many out. He is fantastic though.

Bye, bye Madrid.

EDIT: Marcelo was good when he came on.

EDIT 2: There was was call for the ITV commentator to kind of disrespect Diarra, when he was talking about his birthday.

Joel
10-03-2009, 23:10
:D Easy mate, I was literally asking what he did cos I didn't actually see what happened.

Was pleased for Essien to get his goal. Having him and Carvalho back immediately makes Chelsea look a real force again.

Haha, I was a bit snappy there, I apologise.

Yeah, was great to see Essien playing, let alone getting on the score sheet. It's so nice seeing him in the first team again. Missing him for half of the season has sucked, so I can only imagine how bad it was for you guys missing Eduardo for a year.

I hope we don't drawn on the same bracket side as Liverpool this year. Not because I'm afraid of them, but because I am tired of that fixture in Europe.

Drawing Inter would be nice, but I don't think they'll make it past United.

-Bonzo-
10-03-2009, 23:13
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Ale_Bitter.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2008/05/lemon.jpeg

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/images/herbs/bitter-melon-bsp.jpg

Cobinho
10-03-2009, 23:16
Chelsea were not the better side in the first leg, they were again lucky not to concede on a number of occasions. The entire tie was immensely close and only someone who didn't watch the entirety of both legs would argue otherwise unless they were delusional or on the payroll of the British press.

Well I say they were better in the first leg. And I say they controlled the way the second leg played out. To me they were the better team and it seemed however hard Juve tried they would always have an answer.

Sweey
10-03-2009, 23:27
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/01/Ale_Bitter.jpg

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2008/05/lemon.jpeg

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/images/herbs/bitter-melon-bsp.jpg

I've found you again you pathetic shit. We'll meet again...

Dale C.
10-03-2009, 23:34
I've gotta say, Hats off to Bayern Munich.

Is 12-1 a record? If not, whats the highest aggregate win at this stage?

TheAlchemist
11-03-2009, 03:45
I've found you again you pathetic shit. We'll meet again...

What is that last one?

Peppers or suming?

EDIT: just read the address. What the hell is bitter melon?

Eric Clyde
11-03-2009, 04:09
This may not be right coming from someone whose team is not in the Champions League but Sporting Lisbon deserved to be laughed at.

Figо10
11-03-2009, 05:21
Top class performances from Bayern and Liverpool, though Bayern might still run into trouble facing the likes of Chelsea or Inter in the last eight. 12-1 on aggregate is astonishing though, that with Toni and Ribery out.

Klose and Gerrard joint top scorers with 7 goals for now.

Best goal tonight - Joao Moutinho against Bayern. Podolski's first and del Piero's penalty looked good too. Great to see Essien back in the first team and on the scoresheet.

mufcsean
11-03-2009, 06:37
I have been at work since 7pm and have just got home about half an hour ago and could not believe my eyes when i saw those scorelines.

A few questions.

Where Liverpool amazing or were Madrid absolute dogshit?
Did Dossena really score, my head won't accept it?
How did Sporting get battered 12-1 on aggregate, where they really that bad or again were Bayern just amazing?
Are there any highlights of the games on tv tomorrow daytime?

The Eristic
11-03-2009, 08:42
Where Liverpool amazing or were Madrid absolute dogshit?
Did Dossena really score, my head won't accept it?
How did Sporting get battered 12-1 on aggregate, where they really that bad or again were Bayern just amazing?
Are there any highlights of the games on tv tomorrow daytime?

1: A bit of both. Liverpool were REALLY having at Madrid. Almost shockingly aggressive, given Rafa's penchant for caution. From the kickoff, they always looked like they were going to just plain do RM, hard. Torres had a divine touch in maybe the 4th minute that put him through on goal, only to be desperately saved by Casillas. Two or three other last ditch saves (even a quality left-footed dipping blast from Mascherano) before the first goal, too. Without Iker, Madrid would've been spanked as badly as Sporting. If Liverpool would get up and play like that in the league with any consistency, they'd have the title.

2: Yeah, I did a double take on that one, too.

3: After the own goal plus Schweinsteiger's immediate (literally) reply to Moutinho's goal, Sporting might as well have left the field. Weren't even trying.

4: Dunno about TV on your side of the pond, but there's always http://www.footytube.com/category/videos/champions-league/

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 10:02
i dont get it. They issue a warning to Arsenal fans to be wary when travelling to the Stadio Olimpico, yet this is where the final sha'll be held.

Bish
11-03-2009, 14:05
i dont get it. They issue a warning to Arsenal fans to be wary when travelling to the Stadio Olimpico, yet this is where the final sha'll be held.

I know mate. If there's any sort of trouble from the Ultras tonight, UEFA would surely have to consider switching venues. They've already warned Roma fans the team wil be chucked out if they do racist chants, which they apparently did against Inter recently.

Imagine what sort of trouble there would be if Roma reached the final.

Sweey
11-03-2009, 14:11
Roma in the final...not with fucking Mexes at the back.

At the moment Boavista look like they could dominate Italian sides in Europe :faceplm:

CDDRodrigo
11-03-2009, 18:07
Brilliant Bayern.

I just GOT TO SEE Inter x Man Utd today. For my luck, TV will show it here.

Joel
11-03-2009, 20:01
Souness needs to fuck off with his blind hatred towards Totti.

Bish
11-03-2009, 20:07
Fuck, Mexes isn't playing. :realmad:

Same team that started the 1st leg, Eduardo and Walcott waiting to come on if needed.

Joel
11-03-2009, 20:12
You think Arsenal will play the formation that UEFA assumes, Bishop?

Oh God. According to Souness, boos turn on Jose Mourinho.

This guy needs to find a managerial job fast.

Bish
11-03-2009, 20:18
You think Arsenal will play the formation that UEFA assumes, Bishop?

Oh God. According to Souness, boos turn on Jose Mourinho.

This guy needs to find a managerial job fast.

I haven't seen UEFA's one, but I would imagine it will be the same as in the 1st leg with Nasri playing centrally and roaming, with Bendtner playing as a left winger. But it may change depending how the game is going. Hopefully Denilson and Diaby can do a similar job as they did in the 1st leg, if they do we'll have a great chance.

HH
11-03-2009, 22:23
Jesus Baptista! :faceplm:

nev1612
11-03-2009, 22:39
Jesus Baptista! :faceplm:

Shocking that wasn't it!!

I remember when he played for Arsenal against us in the Carlling cup and didn't miss any like that then the bastard!!

HH
11-03-2009, 22:42
:lol:

Commentators were ripping into him. "Arry' Redknapp's wife wouldve scored that!"

Joel
11-03-2009, 22:48
Next round draw should be this:

Man United vs Liverpool
Arsenal/Roma vs Barcelona

Bayern Munich vs Villarreal
Porto vs Chelsea

It has to be done.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 22:50
Woh woh woh, It's only fair we get Porto.

Joel
11-03-2009, 22:53
Hmm...Well you can have Porto, but you still have to play the winner of United and Liverpool.

We will have Villarreal, which means Roma/Arsenal vs Bayern.

HH
11-03-2009, 22:54
Have Bayern proved themselves as a top contender in this competition? I mean up there with United, Liverpool, Barca. It may have only been Sporting Lisbon but any time a team scores 5 or more in both ties would open a few eyes.

Joel
11-03-2009, 23:03
Have Bayern proved themselves as a top contender in this competition? I mean up there with United, Liverpool, Barca. It may have only been Sporting Lisbon but any time a team scores 5 or more in both ties would open a few eyes.

Man U, Barca and Liverpool.
Chelsea and Bayern.
Arsenal/Roma.
Villarreal.
Porto.

That's how I rank it.

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:04
Roma are going out and that series of bumbling passes just provided me with further evidence.

The only hope they have is penalties but the personnel will miss half of those if they manage to make it that far. Half of them look battered for want of a better expression.

Man U, Barca and Liverpool.
Chelsea and Bayern.
Arsenal/Roma.
Villarreal.
Porto.

That's how I rank it.

I'd put Porto level with Villareal and then you'd be spot on.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:05
I'd put us second tier. We're a lot weaker defensively then Man United and Liverpool. Even Chelsea.

50!
11-03-2009, 23:06
No doubt we will be subjected to yet another enthralling Chelsea-Liverpool semi.

Joel
11-03-2009, 23:12
No doubt we will be subjected to yet another enthralling Chelsea-Liverpool semi.

If I was offered that right now, I'd take it, as it means we're in the semi finals. But I really hope it doesn't happen.

Penalties are getting closer in Rome.

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:13
I'm bricking it on Roma's behalf.

Montella to miss if it goes to penalties?

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:14
Montella! When did he go back to Rome?

He's going to score a chip...

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:16
pens...blimey

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:17
I'm going to say Arsenal will win this...got a feeling.

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:18
I'm going to say Arsenal will win this...got a feeling.

I'd second that. If you're as tired as half the Roma players are, you're liable to miss. I'm not even sure Totti is going to score.

As much as I like Diamoutene, I really hope he isn't down for taking one. When will Roma realise they've only kept a clean sheet because Mexes didn't play?

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:18
i dunno dont fancy the young kids for the pens.

Original?
11-03-2009, 23:22
I'm not even sure Totti is going to score.


Just saw a shot of his face... he will score.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:23
Pizzaro meant that. Awesome pen.

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:25
what a horrible pen by Vucinic.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:26
Worst.Pen.Ever.

Original?
11-03-2009, 23:27
I think Baptista should have gone for more power. :unsure:

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:27
Totti will miss :faceplm:

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:28
Montella was cool as fuck.

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:28
here comes the roma miss

Original?
11-03-2009, 23:29
Totti will miss :faceplm:

I am now very concerned... :no:

[Edit] Why... we should keep the faith.

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:31
uh oh
Roma is going to choke first.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:31
Here come the players that didn't really want to take one...

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:33
One Italian team left in Europe: Udinese :faceplm:

God we're fucked now.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:33
Oh dear. Not even close with that one.

Original?
11-03-2009, 23:34
I would have had Doni take one before Tonetto, no joke.

Miggy
11-03-2009, 23:35
Doni was pretty shite with the penalties.

Joel
11-03-2009, 23:38
Tonetto...What a total douche. Actually, I blame Vucinic. Had he been serious, Totti, I mean Roma would have been in the quarter finals.

Sweey
11-03-2009, 23:41
Tonetto...What a total douche. Actually, I blame Vucinic. Had he been serious, Totti, I mean Roma would have been in the quarter finals.

Totti will slap him up good in the dressing room. Around about now.

Bish
11-03-2009, 23:41
Fucking.......Hell.

I'm obviously delighted but that was the worst we've played all season. Don't think either team deserved to win the tie. We had some luck as Roma should have had a penalty. Can't really say anything good about any of our players. I was pleased Denilson scored his pen otherwise I would be really laying into him.

Former Samp player misses the crucial pen....

AgentZero
11-03-2009, 23:41
yeh mirko's pen was worse than Tonetto's

Joel
11-03-2009, 23:45
Totti will slap him up good in the dressing room. Around about now.

Hopefully they unleash the beast on him! Then again, if the beast had scored that simple tap in, they wouldn't have had to go through all of that.

I say set the Ultras on Baptista, Vucinic and Tonetto.

Nifty1Pound50
12-03-2009, 01:08
All four English clubs through. And, just about, they all deserved it.

While Liverpool and Manchester United were easily the better in their respective ties, Chelsea and (in particular) Arsenal struggled past their opponents.

Like Bishop said, neither Arsenal nor Roma deserved to qualify based on tonight's game of football - however, we beat them and I'm over the fucking moon about it (not that I need that sort of drama on a weekday with work the next morning).

Rather than stoke the fire about the best league in the world, what it does categorically prove is that the English game is suited to beating the Italian game. Regardless of performance - three English clubs beat three Italian clubs in three two-legged ties. The fact that Arsenal played some of the least incisive football I've seen them play in the last few years and still managed to beat a half-decent Roma side over two legs (albeit from 12 yards) says a lot.

I'm sure, after ensuring another English-dominated quarter-final draw, UEFA will be extremely quick in enforcing the under-18 transfers and 6+5 rules to try and hinder England's dominance.

Not that I'm against either of the rules - however, it's fairly obvious to anyone with a footballing brain that the introduction of these rules is first-and-foremost to halt the speed with which the Prem is establishing itself as the most dominant league in world football. I agree with the proposal, but the justification behind them both is unbelievably flawed.

uA - 1905
12-03-2009, 01:08
Doni is a shit keeper so it's no surprise the he was shit at the penalties.

Dragonfly
12-03-2009, 01:18
I'm sure, after ensuring another English-dominated quarter-final draw, UEFA will be extremely quick in enforcing the under-18 transfers and 6+5 rules to try and hinder England's dominance.

Not that I'm against either of the rules - however, it's fairly obvious to anyone with a footballing brain that the introduction of these rules is first-and-foremost to halt the speed with which the Prem is establishing itself as the most dominant league in world football. I agree with the proposal, but the justification behind them both is unbelievably flawed.

I was saying that to someone earlier in the day. However, I don't feel comfortable when people say this show the strength of English football, as Wenger did after the match. It shows the strength of the Premiership's top four, which doesn't entirely represent English football.

Miggy
12-03-2009, 01:19
Bingo. I've mentioned it before, with the top four consistently being the same lot the past 5 years it's no wonder they're so strong in Europe. Practice really does make perfect.

Do you really think Everton or Villa would get so far if they qualified next season?

Amateur
12-03-2009, 01:25
The Champions League is like watching the FA Cup now, great..

To make it even better, Referees are now favoring English sides.

Foxhound
12-03-2009, 09:42
Stabbing of visiting fan in attack by ‘Ultras’ confirms club’s worst fears
The violence that has marred the Italian game flared again in Rome last night as two Arsenal fans were injured when the coach taking them to the Stadio Olimpico was attacked by Roma supporters before the match. One of the Arsenal supporters was stabbed in the leg, according to reports. One Roma fan was arrested.

The coach carrying Arsenal supporters, who had travelled independently but had tickets, came under a hail of stones thrown by a group of Roma “Ultras” as it was approaching the stadium. Windows were smashed and at least one Roma fan entered the vehicle, in which a flare was let off. The two wounded Arsenal fans were “lightly injured”, police said, and had refused an offer of transport to hospital for treatment. They received on-the-spot aid from paramedics.

Arsenal said last night that in addition to the coach incident there were two other attacks that left fans with head injuries. “We deplore the incidents as the safety of our supporters is our highest priority,” a statement from Arsenal and the Metropolitan Police, which sent officers to Rome, said.

In a separate incident, police said two Arsenal fans, described as “completely drunk”, were arrested for vandalism on Via Veneto in the city centre. The supporters were taken to a police station, where one attempted to escape but was caught. A policeman was injured in the scuffle with the fan. Police also said that an Arsenal supporter was stopped from entering the stadium after he was found to be carrying a small hammer. He is likely to be charged with carrying an offensive weapon, but had not been arrested.
Arsenal had stated their fears before the match of the possibility of incidents outside the stadium because of the Ultras’ reputation for violence. Sixteen Manchester United supporters were stabbed in the city when the English side faced Roma twice in the Champions League two years ago.

Uefa had threatened to relocate this season’s Champions League final on May 27 away from the Italian capital if trouble persisted. Extra police were drafted to ensure the safety of the 3,000 Arsenal fans, with police vans surrounding the bars in areas where Roma’s Ultra fans meet before and after matches. The North London club sent booklets to fans last week asking them to be vigilant.

The violence came after two Chelsea supporters were stabbed in Turin on Tuesday night before their team’s Champions League game against Juventus. The fans were slashed in the buttocks and were released from hospital after treatment.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/arsenal/article5891530.ece

Seriously, what's with the Roma Ultras & their habit to stab people?

Sweey
12-03-2009, 10:47
Fucks sake. They're stupid, that's what.

Milan are the most competent Italian side in Europe because they changed their style. Juventus have a style that leaves them there or thereabouts but the rest of them either aren't good enough at what they're trying to do (Roma/Fiorentina) or refuse to embrace a new philosophy (the likes of Inter).

Once again, Ferguson showed respect for the game in Italy. He seems to show a good deal of respect in all European matches which is something certain other managers really ought to learn from.

Italian football has talented individuals, that's not where the problem lies. It isn't even centrally a lack of money either although that doesn't help. We don't produce enough quality youngsters because none of the top teams are willing to give them a chance. Money means more foreigners for the most part and that's something I don't want to see in Serie A.

EDIT: Francesco Totti: "It would have been better to lose 3-0. To go out like this is like being stabbed through the heart."

Bad choice of words :>

Bish
12-03-2009, 13:31
I was saying that to someone earlier in the day. However, I don't feel comfortable when people say this show the strength of English football, as Wenger did after the match. It shows the strength of the England League's top four, which doesn't entirely represent English football.

Completely agree. The English Big 4 are 4 of the top sides in Europe (maybe not so much Arsenal this season). These are the same 4 teams that have dominated the English League and the same 4 teams qualifying deep into the Champions League. When you compare the rest of the league to other foreign leagues, there really isn't much difference.

Papa
12-03-2009, 14:06
Mourinho 'assault' investigated

Police are investigating an allegation of common assault made against Jose Mourinho after a Champions League tie.

It has been alleged the Inter Milan manager punched a supporter as he left Old Trafford stadium after his team's defeat by Manchester United.

Police have contacted United to request CCTV footage of the area and have confirmed a complaint has been made.

A spokesman for Manchester United confirmed they are aware of the allegation but made no further comment.

The fan is alleged to have chanted, "You're going home, you're going home" to the former Chelsea manager.

The man later went into Stretford police station, close to Old Trafford, to report the alleged attack.

Old Trafford
The fan claims he was assaulted outside the ground

A Greater Manchester Police spokesman said: "Just before midnight on Wednesday 11 March 2009 a man reported he'd been punched in the face outside Old Trafford.

"Police are investigating this common assault allegation. Inquiries are ongoing."

The allegation came after Mourinho watched his team crash out of the Champions League after Nemanja Vidic and Cristiano Ronaldo scored for United at the start of each half.

Mourinho has come under attack from the Italian media for his failure to get Inter through to the last eight teams in the competition.

The plane taking the Inter party back to Milan left Manchester at 0025 GMT.

The fan, who is not from the Greater Manchester area, did not report any injuries to police after the alleged attack and did not need treatment.

Somehow I doubt. Doesn't really fit with the Mourinho image to be honest.

greenegg
12-03-2009, 15:45
The fan, who is not from the Greater Manchester area

:ohmy:
That comes as a huge suprise.

uA - 1905
12-03-2009, 20:36
:ohmy:
That comes as a huge suprise.

Deserved the punch surely

Hunter
12-03-2009, 22:25
Doesn't do Mourinho's hopes of getting the United job any good if it is indeed true.

On another note, when is the next draw being made ? Soon surely.

Dragonfly
12-03-2009, 22:31
Friday, next week.

Miggy
12-03-2009, 22:31
Next Friday.

Hunter
12-03-2009, 23:09
That's a bit late isn't it ?

Dad is working a few minutes away from the ground in 2 weeks time and was planning to go to a CL game but with this late draw, chances are there won't be a CL game for a good while. :faceplm:

Annoying really, would have been a good laugh. Saying that though, I prefer playing the home leg as the 2nd leg mind.

Billy Minof
12-03-2009, 23:14
That's a bit late isn't it ?

Dad is working a few minutes away from the ground in 2 weeks time and was planning to go to a CL game but with this late draw, chances are there won't be a CL game for a good while. :faceplm:

Annoying really, would have been a good laugh. Saying that though, I prefer playing the home leg as the 2nd leg mind.


So do the Pool. :ninja:

Here are the dates for the Quarter Finals BTW.

07 - 08 April 2009
14 - 15 April 2009

Dundon's
13-03-2009, 00:38
Waiting for the draw is all part of it I guess.

Haribo
19-03-2009, 21:39
How do people think the draw will go? All random I know (or at least, I hope..), but I say:


Villarreal vs Arsenal
Bayern Munich vs Barcelona
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Chelsea vs Man United
Liverpool vs Porto

Cobinho
19-03-2009, 21:45
Lilely that two English side will meet, hopefully Man Utd with another English team. If that Atletico and Villareal are kept apart I will be happy with the draw from a neutral perspective.

Bish
19-03-2009, 21:56
How do people think the draw will go? All random I know (or at least, I hope..), but I say:


Villarreal vs Arsenal
Bayern Munich vs Barcelona
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Chelsea vs Man United
Liverpool vs Atletico Madrid

You mean Porto?

Personally, I'm just happy to still be involved in the competition.

Haribo
19-03-2009, 22:12
Yes, sorry. I was miles away when posting. :faceplm:

Dragonfly
19-03-2009, 22:18
Yes, sorry. I was miles away when posting. :faceplm:

How long is the lead on your keyboard?

Has Man Utd played another Premiership team in the Champions League, yet? I don't think they have, so I would like them to face Liverpool. I hope the following will be the draw:

Man Utd v Liverpool
Arsenal v Villarreal
Barcelona v Porto
Bayern Munich v Chelsea

Phil W.A.F.C
19-03-2009, 22:26
How long is the lead on your keyboard?

Has Man Utd played another England League team in the Champions League, yet? I don't think they have, so I would like them to face Liverpool. I hope the following will be the draw:

Man Utd v Liverpool
Arsenal v Villarreal
Barcelona v Porto
Bayern Munich v Chelsea

Erm, Moscow last year, Manchester United Vs Chelsea, Champions League Final :faceplm:.

Dragonfly
19-03-2009, 22:27
Erm, Moscow last year, Manchester United Vs Chelsea, Champions League Final :faceplm:.

:lol: Sorry, I meant before the final.

Hunter
19-03-2009, 22:52
Any chance we can play Liverpool in the final ? Or is it impossible, not sure how they do these draws anymore. Although Ronnie was saying he doesn't want Bayern since they're very strong, so fair enough.

Sweey
19-03-2009, 22:57
Any chance we can play Liverpool in the final ? Or is it impossible, not sure how they do these draws anymore. Although Ronnie was saying he doesn't want Bayern since they're very strong, so fair enough.

Its a free-for-all. You'd need Liverpool to end up in the other half of the draw. I hope the four English teams end up against one another. Manchester United-Liverpool and Arsenal-Chelsea ideally but not necessarily in the same half of the draw.

Hunter
19-03-2009, 23:09
I would love to get Liverpool in one sense, but playing them in the Final would be mega. I can't even imagine how intense it would be, the amount of media coverage over here as well would be beyond epic proportions. Not to mention the fact both teams entire reputations are on the line as far as the fans are concerned. Also combined with the fact it will truly be heart-attack material. I'm getting giddy just thinking about the prospect, my lord.

Dragonfly
19-03-2009, 23:32
I would love to get Liverpool in one sense, but playing them in the Final would be mega. I can't even imagine how intense it would be, the amount of media coverage over here as well would be beyond epic proportions. Not to mention the fact both teams entire reputations are on the line as far as the fans are concerned. Also combined with the fact it will truly be heart-attack material. I'm getting giddy just thinking about the prospect, my lord.

You've also got me excited at the prospect. I don't care about what happens to us, I want Hunter's dream to be realised. :lol:





Forgive me, St. Chapman. :crymore:

Dale C.
19-03-2009, 23:36
Forgive me, St. Chapman. :crymore:

You are forgiven.

Hunter
19-03-2009, 23:43
You've also got me excited at the prospect. I don't care about what happens to us, I want Hunter's dream to be realised. :lol:





Forgive me, St. Chapman. :crymore:

Great to hear. :cool:

The rivalry is already quite tense, imagine if we were to face off in the Champions League Final. :huh: I could definitely see a lot of trouble occuring, just hoping that it won't get the clubs banned for the future, but then again we could quite easily reference foreign clubs not being penalised for attempted murders e.g. Roma must have stabbed about 50 opposition fans just in the last few years during European competitions. Scum.

Berry
19-03-2009, 23:45
I would love to see that. It's such a huge bitter rivalry, them facing each other in the Champions League final would make the rivalry even tenser and bigger.

:w00t

Dragonfly
19-03-2009, 23:52
Great to hear. :cool:

The rivalry is already quite tense, imagine if we were to face off in the Champions League Final. :huh: I could definitely see a lot of trouble occuring, just hoping that it won't get the clubs banned for the future, but then again we could quite easily reference foreign clubs not being penalised for attempted murders e.g. Roma must have stabbed about 50 opposition fans just in the last few years during European competitions. Scum.

Maybe you could send an email to UEFA asking them, if they are going to fix the draw, can they do it so that there's a possibility of Man Utd playing Liverpool in the final, for the reasons you've made.

Joel
19-03-2009, 23:54
Fuck off with a Man U vs Liverpool final. I want both out next round.

Hunter
20-03-2009, 00:05
Fuck off with a Man U vs Liverpool final. I want both out next round.

Of course you do, because both would beat Chelsea. ;)

Joel
20-03-2009, 00:09
Of course you do, because both would beat Chelsea. ;)

There's a good chance of that, yes. So I'd like a path of Porto -> Bayern -> Villarreal -> BJ for Guus.

Bish
20-03-2009, 00:12
Joel, if I had to pick an english team to play, it would be Chelsea but I'm 100% sure you'd choose Arsenal as well.

I'm not gonna be that nervous about who we draw though. I'm just glad we're in there.

Joel
20-03-2009, 00:18
Joel, if I had to pick an english team to play, it would be Chelsea but I'm 100% sure you'd choose Arsenal as well.

I'm not gonna be that nervous about who we draw though. I'm just glad we're in there.

Yup. Liverpool and Man U just have a lot more European pedigree than Chelsea and Arsenal. Both United and Liverpool fans would make their home tie as hostile as possible, which I don't think neither London club would be able to do.

If we do draw you guys, we may have to bring back Wayne Bridge for one game ;)

Bish
20-03-2009, 00:24
Yup. Liverpool and Man U just have a lot more European pedigree than Chelsea and Arsenal. Both United and Liverpool fans would make their home tie as hostile as possible, which I don't think neither London club would be able to do.

If we do draw you guys, we may have to bring back Wayne Bridge for one game ;)

Thanks for reminding me of that mate. They were 2 exciting games though, and have to admit Chelsea's performance at Highbury, especially in the 2nd half, they deserved to go through.

I dunno about the home atmosphere. Our 1st leg against Liverpool at the Emirates, there was definitely more noise than usual. But defintely not as hostile as regards booing and whistling, which is common at Anfield.

nev1612
20-03-2009, 10:10
Does anyone know of a live stream for the draw??

Ziss
20-03-2009, 11:01
Predictions for the draw? Any leaks of what the draw will be, as with previous years? :)

My predictions are:-

Porto vs Chelsea
Liverpool vs Arsenal
Barcelona vs Bayern
Villareal vs Man Utd

Dragonfly
20-03-2009, 12:04
Does anyone know of a live stream for the draw??

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/13032009/58/follow-draw-quarter-finals-cham.html

fick
20-03-2009, 12:08
Actual Draw:

Villereal - Arsenal
Man Utd - Porto
Liverpool - Chelsea (!!!)
Barca - Munich

That completes the draw...

Good one for us. Bad one for Liverpool & Chelsea!

TH
20-03-2009, 12:10
Few am I glad we got Villarreal.

Man U - Porto

Liverpool - Chelsea

Barcelona - Bayern Munich

Semi - Final

Man u/Porto - Villarreal/Arsenal

Barcelona/Bayern Munich - Liverpool/Chelsea

The Messiah
20-03-2009, 12:10
Feels good man. Porto lol.

fick
20-03-2009, 12:12
Semi final Draw:

Man U/Porto - Villareal/Arsenal

Liverpool/Chelsea - Barca/Munich

Not a bad run to the final for my beloved reds...

Ziss
20-03-2009, 12:13
Best possible draw for us I feel.

TH
20-03-2009, 12:15
My prediction for the semil Finals

Man U - Arsenal

Liverpool - Barca

Then an Arsenal/Barca final again but this time we win :ninja:

Papa
20-03-2009, 12:16
Predictions then?

Villarreal v Arsenal
Manchester United v FC Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barcelona v Bayern Munich

Arsenal v Manchester United
Liverpool v Barcelona

Manchester United v Barcelona

But really the prospective Liverpool v Barca and Barca v United matches could go either way.

Joel
20-03-2009, 12:16
Go fuck yourself, Bruno Cunti.

Oh well, at least the second leg of the tie is at home. We beat them last year when the second leg was at home, so we can do it again. Especially with our boys coming back to form.

Ziss
20-03-2009, 12:16
Arsenal isn't a sure bet, nor are Liverpool.

Oh well, at least the second leg of the tie is at home.
I've always preferred the second leg away. Let's you push and sometimes go gung-ho for an away goal.

fick
20-03-2009, 12:19
Predictions then?

Villarreal v Arsenal
Manchester United v FC Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barcelona v Bayern Munich

Arsenal v Manchester United
Liverpool v Barcelona

Manchester United v Barcelona

But really the prospective Liverpool v Barca and Barca v United matches could go either way.

Have to agree with all that Papa, though still have a sneaking feeling that the bindippers will stuff their way to the final...

Sweey
20-03-2009, 12:19
Go fuck yourself, Bruno Cunti.

:chanlaugh:

Barcelona-Bayern, tie of the round. Definitely watching both legs of that!

Have to agree with all that Papa, though still have a sneaking feeling that the bindippers will stuff their way to the final...

Same here.

Dragonfly
20-03-2009, 12:21
Villarreal v Arsenal
Manchester United v FC Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barcelona v Bayern Munich

Arsenal v Manchester United
Liverpool v Barcelona

Manchester United v Liverpool

Joel
20-03-2009, 12:21
I've always preferred the second leg away. Let's you push and sometimes go gung-ho for an away goal.

I agree with that, as we were allowed to do this in Turin.

However, history tells you that whoever has the second leg at home in the Liverpool and Chelsea tie has progressed.

I'd go nuts for a semi final line up like this:

Porto vs Villarreal
Bayern vs Chelsea

Bish
20-03-2009, 12:23
On paper, looks a good draw. 2nd leg at Emirates a slight advantage, but depends what Arsenal team turns up. If we're at our best, we've a great chance, if we play like we did against Roma in the 2nd leg, we'll go out.

Barca-Bayern is penis tingling. The route to the final looks good for Man Utd. As for Liverpool-Chelsea, the 2nd leg at Stamford Bridge is important, Mascherano suspended for 1st leg, so Liverpool not clear favourites by any means.

Dragonfly
20-03-2009, 12:27
I think whatever happens, there's the potential to witness some great football games this Spring.

Rambo
20-03-2009, 12:28
An Arsenal or Manutd vs Liverpool final me thinks.

Papa
20-03-2009, 12:30
Barca-Bayern is penis tingling

:chanlaugh:

So true. Will make sure to watch that.


As for Liverpool-Chelsea, the 2nd leg at Stamford Bridge is important, Mascherano suspended for 1st leg, so Liverpool not clear favourites by any means.

Liverpool's match before the first leg is an easy stroll in the park against Fulham though, so they'll be rested and high in confidence. Though it is Liverpool in Europe so they don't really need any more boosts in confidence.

Ziss
20-03-2009, 12:30
I'd happily see Man Utd go out now if it meant Liverpool doing so too.

Joel
20-03-2009, 12:38
I'd happily see Man Utd go out now if it meant Liverpool doing so too.

But you have a really good chance of retaining the trophy.

Now I've heard the draw, I just want to get it done and over with. I'm so sick and tired of playing Liverpool in Europe now. Damn Madrid and their shitness!

Papa
20-03-2009, 12:42
1132: Almost unbelievably, Liverpool and Chelsea are about to meet for the 23rd time in the last five seasons having met in Europe in each of their last five Champions League campaigns. Maybe they should just get a room...

Anyone got the win/draw/win stats of those 23?