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Nifty1Pound50
12-01-2009, 21:56
Windows 7 beta is now available. I believe it was released on Friday afternoon (Seattle time) but it was a nightmare to get at.
We downloaded a copy in work today for beta-testing purposes and to have a general play around.
I will feed back my thoughts in good time. Just wondered if anyone else was doing similarly?
Rossy Boy
12-01-2009, 22:01
Ive heard about it, and not really a fan of all the touch screen idea they are trying to add.
One of many reviews:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/microsoft/4163510/Microsoft-Windows-7-in-depth-review-CES-2009.html
I'll download it to have a look.
time will only tell if its beter than vista, and im sure it will be
Kevthedrummer
12-01-2009, 23:21
Vista is a decent example of what the internet calls "epic fail". It's not bad, but I can't think of anything good to say about it. Good to see a new OS on the way. It should be a free upgrade for those who bought Vista :rolleyes:
nikicampos
15-01-2009, 00:23
Pics???
Vista is a decent example of what the internet calls "epic fail". It's not bad, but I can't think of anything good to say about it. Good to see a new OS on the way. It should be a free upgrade for those who bought Vista :rolleyes:
It does pose a problem for people like myself still on XP but looking to switch within the next 12 months. Do you go for Vista knowing all its faults and weaknesses or take a punt on 7 being much more reliable in the long term.
It does pose a problem for people like myself still on XP but looking to switch within the next 12 months. Do you go for Vista knowing all its faults and weaknesses or take a punt on 7 being much more reliable in the long term.
XP users would be best avoiding Vista at this stage and hoping Windows 7 delivers on the vast majority of its promises. There are plenty of users still on XP and Microsoft are aware of the fact they simply won't switch to Vista, forcing the release of Windows 7 so quickly (end 2009/early 2010).
nikicampos
15-01-2009, 09:24
For me the main thing is that it has to be fast, responsive and reliable, they should try to make it work better than XP and nice looks like vista.
I just install vista the past weekend to give it one last try, and no, i only used it like one day and then went back to xp, i also tried Ubuntus, kind of cool, but no itunes support and the looks of it seemed rubbish and old fashion, i end it up with XP and downloaded a skin to make it look like vista.
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/1579/64044402zl0.jpg
Kevthedrummer
15-01-2009, 10:20
It does pose a problem for people like myself still on XP but looking to switch within the next 12 months. Do you go for Vista knowing all its faults and weaknesses or take a punt on 7 being much more reliable in the long term.
Well they do say that Vista is now as good as it's going to be, but generally according to most things I've read, windows 7 is the OS Vista should have been and I'm guessing it'll be around for much longer.
No point in getting Vista now if it's going to be down & out by the end of the year.
nikicampos
18-01-2009, 23:25
Does anyone has a safe link to download windows 7???
EDIT: Never mind, i just went to windows.com and download is in progress, i really want to try a new OS, i'm kind of tired of Windows XP, tried Vista a few times and ended up with XP again.
I just hop this beta version works better than vista, if not, going back to old good reliable XP.
wrathchild_uk
19-01-2009, 16:12
i end it up with XP and downloaded a skin to make it look like vista.
Where can you get that skin from? :)
nikicampos
19-01-2009, 18:31
Where can you get that skin from? :)
There are several programs, i tried like 6, and the best result was this, and the best thing is that you can restore your original settings by removing the programs.
VistaMizer
This will make your taskbar, folders, icons and windows look like Vista.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Themes/VistaMizer.shtml
Rainbar
This is the bar with all the gadgets.
http://gavatx.deviantart.com/art/Vista-Rainbar-V4-81263212
One thing I'm loving with Windows 7 is how successfully it has so far lied to installation programs claiming to be XP or Vista so that they would run. This is how compatibility options are supposed to work!
Nice to be able to have a slide show on my desktop background too although how this would interfere with games I don't know.
nikicampos
19-01-2009, 19:08
I just like how is faster than Vista, so far so good, with vista i couldn't take it one day, and at least with windows 7 makes me want to try it more, there are some visual things that i don't like, but as long as it works ok, that's fine.
And the fact that this is a beta, and they have at least 6 to 12 months to work on it, i think the final version would be ok, but seems more like an update from vista, it's what Vista should have been.
Funny thing, reminds me of PES 2008 and PES 2009, PES 2009 is everything PES 2008 should have been.
Rossy Boy
19-01-2009, 19:11
Im not really a fan of the way you have the programs in the taskbar, but i suppose i could learn to live with it.
Actually one gripe: how do you get the old-style quick launch bar? Pinning items to the taskbar takes up too much room and I don't like the drop-down quick launch bar.
nikicampos
19-01-2009, 19:38
The quick launch bar was something that i always loved, and they go and take it away, i guess the "new" quick launch is to pin the apps to the task bar and if you want to show the desktop just go all the way down left.
And the new taskbar is way to big, even if i chose small icons, and i have never been a fan of auto hide.
I also don't like the big icons in the left where the network, sound and battery icons are, well they are not big, they are long, and i like to show them all, that the problem for me.
wrathchild_uk
19-01-2009, 20:50
There are several programs, i tried like 6, and the best result was this, and the best thing is that you can restore your original settings by removing the programs.
VistaMizer
This will make your taskbar, folders, icons and windows look like Vista.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Themes/VistaMizer.shtml
Rainbar
This is the bar with all the gadgets.
http://gavatx.deviantart.com/art/Vista-Rainbar-V4-81263212
cheers!
hulkamaphone
20-01-2009, 00:18
Hopefully its better than Vista!!
nikicampos
11-02-2009, 09:21
Trying Windows 7 again as we speak, the thing for me is that i'm tired of XP, need a new look, so, i'm starting to like this new OS, has some pretty new good stuff, visually speaking, and the best part is that runs faster than than vista, for my taste, it still needs some touch up, so i'm planning on sending lots of feedbacks and hopefully some of the stuff gets fixed.
Oh, and if anyone wants to try it, well, bad luck, the time has expired to try this beta version.
nikicampos
20-03-2009, 23:23
Well, it's been more that one month and i'm really happy with win7, it works really good, i like it more than XP now, can't wait for it to come out in the retail version.
Actually one gripe: how do you get the old-style quick launch bar? Pinning items to the taskbar takes up too much room and I don't like the drop-down quick launch bar.
For those of you who are using win7 and like the quick launch bar, here is a tutorial for it, real easy and it really made me happy, i found this today, i'm not talking about pinning programs or else, this is the old good quick launch bar, you can put or remove programs like in XP.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/888-quick-launch-enable-disable.html?ltr=Q
Here is a pic of my pc with the quick launch on.
Cheers.
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8725/win7v.jpg
I.N Extasy
26-04-2009, 16:13
Can anyone point me in the direction of a tutorial which explains how to reduce the size of the taskbar? Or can this be done simply by using a custom visual style, if any are available?
Thank you.
Right-click the taskbar, make sure "Lock the taskbar" isn't ticked any do whatever you wish. Going into Properties, via right-clicking again, allows you to change the size of icons etc.
I.N Extasy
26-04-2009, 17:27
Right-click the taskbar, make sure "Lock the taskbar" isn't ticked any do whatever you wish. Going into Properties, via right-clicking again, allows you to change the size of icons etc.
Thank you.
Installed this last night and must admit I really do prefer it to Vista. Seems to run so much smoother and without taking up as much resources. I won't be going back to Vista that's for certain.
Kevthedrummer
14-05-2009, 09:54
Installed this last night and must admit I really do prefer it to Vista. Seems to run so much smoother and without taking up as much resources. I won't be going back to Vista that's for certain.
where did you get hold of it from?
And does it run software alright, like Photoshop and After Effects?
where did you get hold of it from?
And does it run software alright, like Photoshop and After Effects?I got it from the Microsoft website. The only software I've had problems with so far is AdMuncher. But Firefox can take care of that for now.
nikicampos
18-05-2009, 03:03
I just install the RC and on a visual level there are no changes, only the logout image, which is awful, hopefully performs better than the beta, but on the good side, i like it a lot more than vista, so, i can't wait to get the release version hopefully by the end of this year, although, if the RC expires in june of 2010, does this means the release version will be out until 2010, also, the shutdowns begin on march, anybody here knows something about the release date????
Kevthedrummer
18-05-2009, 09:25
I just install the RC and on a visual level there are no changes, only the logout image, which is awful, hopefully performs better than the beta, but on the good side, i like it a lot more than vista, so, i can't wait to get the release version hopefully by the end of this year, although, if the RC expires in june of 2010, does this means the release version will be out until 2010, also, the shutdowns begin on march, anybody here knows something about the release date????
no, but they'll definately have to have it released before the shutdowns. Otherwise I imagine they will update the licences on the RC and extend them until it's released. Supposed to be out by the end of this year.
nikicampos
21-05-2009, 01:18
Does anyone here knows how much Windows 7 will cost, i would like to get home edition.
nikicampos
30-05-2009, 13:21
People should really try this OS, i was really sick and tired of how XP looks (although it performs great), the only thing i loved about vista was that it had a great look and nice little innovations, and now, with 7 i have both, it runs great, stable, and looks amazing, can't wait for the final version.
Windows 7 in the EU will not automatically install IE8 thanks to Opera and the EU Commission (tossers) which means it will be impossible to upgrade to Windows 7 while retaining all settings. IE8 will be distributed on a separate CD and a clean install of the OS is necessary. Bad news for me as I'm using the beta of Windows 7 and could have theoretically upgraded it to the full version in some fashion.
Original?
13-06-2009, 18:49
Windows 7 in the EU will not automatically install IE8 thanks to Opera and the EU Commission (tossers) which means it will be impossible to upgrade to Windows 7 while retaining all settings. IE8 will be distributed on a separate CD and a clean install of the OS is necessary. Bad news for me as I'm using the beta of Windows 7 and could have theoretically upgraded it to the full version in some fashion.
Good move theoretically, however, it remains to be seen as to whether it will be enough to undo the inertia of IE.
Good move theoretically, however, it remains to be seen as to whether it will be enough to undo the inertia of IE.
It isn't a good move Original?
I understand the whole need for IE not to be integrated within the OS but the way in which the EU Commission have handled this and the fact they didn't successfully do so long before now has nicely screwed things up for plenty of us. IE does not do a single bad thing on my system despite being integrated - I don't use it for web browsing unless using pages requiring ActiveX - and I don't see why people like me should be punished for the failure of others, mostly the Commission in this case.
There are a couple of articles about the whole thing on www.bit-tech.net
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/06/13/opera-says-ie-removal-not-enough/1
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/06/12/microsoft-to-ship-windows-7-in-eu-without-i/1
Badgerman
14-06-2009, 16:10
I love me some Opera.
Tabbed browsing and the mouse tricks were made for me. I understand that the Firefox folks phave a major knob on for their browser, but Opera satisfies my needs sufficiently.
I don't see why they couldn't have sneaked in some work around though, sucks for those of you on the Beta but eh, Beta for a reason I guess.
I reckon that Macs probably are still easier to use, not that I know how to use mine at all, but I've noticed than Windows has gone the shiny shiny route.
I look forward to it being adopted in the work place in 5 years time.
nikicampos
02-07-2009, 06:15
Windows 7 upgrade is now on pre-order online in bestbuy.com, the release date for now is set for October 22, 2009, the upgrades can be from XP or Vista, and for a limited time the price is 50 dlls for the home premium and 100 dlls for professional, the retail price is 120 and 200, so right now there's a 70 and 100 dlls rebate.
I'm really thinking about buying it right now, i could be saving 70 dlls, i'll will end up buying it anyway the only thing is that the rebate is only good until the 11th of july.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat185500050 009&type=category
Windows 7 has been released to manufacturing and TechNet and MSDN subscribers will be able to get it on 6 August. The company also confirmed the rumours surrounding the Family Pack edition of Windows 7 which will cater for users with up to three PCs in their homes.
Microsoft's Brandon LeBlanc said last night that the OS has been released to manufacturing (RTM) and he also confirmed the availability dates for subscribers to the software giant's numerous programmes.
Developers and IT professionals with Microsoft Connect, MSDN and TechNet subscriptions will get the final version of the OS on 6 August, while businesses with Volume Licence agreements will be given Windows 7 a day later. Microsoft Partner Program Gold/Certified Members will be able to download the RTM on 16 August, while Action Pack subscribers will get it another week later on 23 August.
Sadly, beta testers have been left out in the dark. In the past, Microsoft has rewarded testers who have reported a certain number of bugs with a free copy of Windows. With Windows 7, LeBlanc said that the pre-order scheme "was done with our beta testers in mind," but the offer was open to everyone and not just to beta testers who reported bugs.
LeBlanc did point out that the Release Candidate scheme will continue running until 1 June, although the OS will shut down every two hours from the beginning of March.
After LeBlanc confirmed the existence of a Family Pack, Microsoft UK later said that it wasn't sure whether the Family Pack would make it to the UK because of its ongoing feud with EU antitrust regulators, which means it is unlikely to offer upgrade editions of Windows 7 in Europe until 2010 at the earliest.
"I can't confirm whether we'll make that [Family Pack] available in the UK," said John Curran, director of the Windows Client Group, in an interview with PC Pro. "It was designed as an upgrade SKU."
From www.bit-tech.net.
Fuck. The. E. U.
TheAlchemist
22-08-2009, 20:27
Does anyone here knows how much Windows 7 will cost, i would like to get home edition.
£149.98 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCMTC/ref=s9_newr_gw_tr03?pf_rd_m=A3 P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=035R6SE5J4SZZEGGEZC6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128473&pf_rd_i=468294
£149.98 on Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002DUCMTC/ref=s9_newr_gw_tr03?pf_rd_m=A3 P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=035R6SE5J4SZZEGGEZC6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128473&pf_rd_i=468294
He's not in the UK. United States I believe.
News from earlier this month that Windows 7 will ship with IE in Europe. Nice.
Microsoft said it would not separate its Internet Explorer (IE) Web browser from versions of Windows 7 shipped to the European Union when the new operating system launches worldwide in October.
Microsoft said it had abandoned plans to strip IE from the package to avoid breaching EU competition rules, but would instead present customers with a "ballot" option, allowing them to choose whether to install IE or another browser.
Microsoft said the option had been tentatively welcomed by the European Commission, and received positive feedback from computer makers.
The Brussels-based EU executive, which wields broad anti-trust powers, had called on Microsoft to open Windows to different Internet browsers in order to fend off litigation.
"I'm pleased to report that we will ship the same version of Windows 7 in Europe in October that we will ship in the rest of the world," Microsoft deputy general counsel Dave Heiner said in a message on the firm's website.
"We're now confident that shipping Windows 7 with IE in Europe, as we will in the rest of the world, is the right thing to do for our partners and for our customers."
Under the new plan, people who buy computers with Windows 7 pre-installed will be presented with the ballot screen when they first connect to the Internet.
It will let new Windows 7 users select and then install Web browsers of their choice to replace IE on their computers, according to Heiner.
Microsoft said it could revert to shipping a Windows 7 E version, without IE included, in the European Union depending on feedback from the European Commission.
"We recognize that there are still several steps ahead in the Commission's review of our proposal and that we are not done," Heiner wrote.
"We will fully engage in that process with the hope that our proposal will be accepted."
The Commission, Europe's top competition watchdog, opened the new front in its epic anti-trust battle with Microsoft in January.
Microsoft recently declared its next-generation Windows 7 operating system ready for delivery to computer makers.
16/10
It is nearly here!
A review on the website of The Independent, a newspaper in the UK, though originally by New Zealand's Herald newspaper.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/review-microsofts-windows-7-1803948.html
31/10
Right, so I've been using the final version of Windows 7 Ultimate for nine days now and its every bit as good as I expected it to be from my many months using the beta. I'm yet to experience the full power of XP Mode but that will come in time. Excellent OS.
Anyone with a uni email that ends in ac.uk can get windows 7 for £30
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/education/studentoffer/
Its only Home Premium though - still at least £40 off the price at some places but no XP Mode. They saved that for us special folk.
Shinlung
31-10-2009, 12:41
So far, I'm quite content with XP. And so long as it supports the latest hardware, I'm not about to put it to rest. My only worry though is that, as a gamer, I'd be left in the lurch with all the jargons flying thick and fast, eg. DirectX 11, DDR3, SSD, etcetera etcetera.
So far, I'm quite content with XP. And so long as it supports the latest hardware, I'm not about to put it to rest. My only worry though is that, as a gamer, I'd be left in the lurch with all the jargons flying thick and fast, eg. DirectX 11, DDR3, SSD, etcetera etcetera.
I wouldn't worry. DirectX 10 isn't even supported by a large number of games and though DX11 is better, it'll take time for it to become mainstream. DDR3 isn't an issue really and nor are SSD drives - I certainly don't have one and a lot of people won't until the cost comes flying down. Only a few games aren pushing high-level processors and RAM, the market has advanced more quickly than games requirements have which is a good thing for people who don't want to upgrade.
The only thing with XP is that Microsoft are very keen to pull support for it which is something they couldn't do when Vista came as it just wasn't good enough. Windows 7 is though and with the integrated XP Mode in Professional and Ultimate editions they're being very clever.
Shinlung
31-10-2009, 15:29
Thanks Mr. Sweeny. That's very reassuring. With the right hardware, who'd need XP Mode unless you're still at the bottom of the learning curve,right.
TheAlchemist
26-11-2009, 01:19
Been thinking of an upgrade recently. D'you gus rekon this is a good deal:
http://www.byfarthecheapest.com/products/Windows-Anytime-Upgrade-%28WAU%29-Windows-Home-Premium-to-Ultimate7-English-UPG.html
It isn't bad but you're not going to use half of Ultimate's exclusive features.
Acquiesce
27-11-2009, 12:49
Thanks Mr. Sweeny. That's very reassuring. With the right hardware, who'd need XP Mode unless you're still at the bottom of the learning curve,right.
:laugh:
requiem7
27-11-2009, 17:14
:laugh:
I'm not a PC and Windows 7 wasn't my fracking idea.
In tests it says if you have Vista you don't need to get Windows 7. Not a Microsoft quote.
The performance difference between Vista and 7 is minimal.
So unless you are building/getting a new PC I would stick with what you have got.
vision810
28-11-2009, 09:13
I've been using Windows 7 for a month now and I have to admit it's not bad. My pc still hasn't slowed down at all. I prefer Windows 7 a lot to Vista.
Shinlung
29-11-2009, 08:35
Until someone gives me a compelling reason to upgrade, I'm still hanging on to XP sp3. Which could be the latest game or something red hot that doesn't run on XP.
Waiting and watching.
CRISSGRAN
01-12-2009, 01:16
I'm not a PC and Windows 7 wasn't my fracking idea.
In tests it says if you have Vista you don't need to get Windows 7. Not a Microsoft quote.
The performance difference between Vista and 7 is minimal.
So unless you are building/getting a new PC I would stick with what you have got.
Well i'm a PC tech and I gotta say... there is a huge diff between them, perfomance wise. Vista is just so memory hungry for pointless little touches, 7 doesn't have that problem.
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