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BonBon

28-01-2009, 02:11

Rourke had this to say bout Jericho “So come Wrestlemania 25 in Houston, I’m going to toss him around the ring like tossed salad. Chris Jericho, you better get in shape,” Rourke promised, or threatened, or whatever you call it when wrestlers don’t particularly care for each other

Jerichos response , “You are out of line. It’s one thing to play a wrestler in a movie, something entirely different to actually be one. Your comments offended me. You made a mistake. It’s the last thing that you and Ric Flair want to do, and that’s offend Chris Jericho.””

By the way, what does Ric Flair have to do with any of this?

According to Jericho, it was wrestling legend Flair who talked Rourke into thinking he could actually be a wrestler.

Rourke admits that Flair is “teaching me some tricks.”

The only thing Flair will admit to is, “Let’s just say, I will be at Wrestlemania, and that’s all I’m saying.”

In wrestling talk, that means, “I am training Rourke, Chris Jericho is in a heap of trouble and whatever other rumors you’re hearing, they’re all true.”

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6233483.html

Baddar

29-01-2009, 12:23

Rourke/WM update;

The Associated Press issued the following press release this evening saying Mickey Rourke won't be appearing at WrestleMania after all:

Mickey Rourke won't rumble with WWE superstar

HOUSTON (AP) — A spokeswoman for actor Mickey Rourke says he won't be taking his role as a professional wrestler into a real-life ring after all.

Paula Woods told The Associated Press on Wednesday night that Rourke will not wrestle WWE superstar Chris Jericho at Wrestlemania 25 in April at Houston's Reliant Stadium.

Woods wrote in an e-mail that the Oscar-nominated actor "will not be participating in Wrestlemania. He is focusing entirely on his acting career."

Rourke portrays professional wrestler Randy the Ram in the acclaimed movie "The Wrestler." He made a surprise announcement about the wrestling event Sunday night on the red carpet before the Screen Actors Guild Awards in Los Angeles.

Rourke had said he was going to toss Jericho "around the ring like tossed salad."

BarnDoor

29-01-2009, 12:57

Could be just bullshit. Remember he said on Larry King he wouldn't wrestle Jericho.

If this is true however, I will cry and not buy Wrestlemania.

Bish

29-01-2009, 13:08

I think it could be bullshit. Guess after Raw next week, might have a clearer view.

Here's that Interview for people who haven't seen it.

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/raw/2009/january22-28/9248574

Baddar

29-01-2009, 13:15

Could be just bullshit. Remember he said on Larry King he wouldn't wrestle Jericho.

If this is true however, I will cry and not buy Wrestlemania.

I suspect it's to slow down the feud a little bit, and it will eventually happen at WM.

Jericho could say during the next couple of Raw's that Rourke is a coward for backing down once he did something about the comments he'd made.

BarnDoor

29-01-2009, 13:26

I'm hoping Jericho will do something extreme to coax Rourke into the match, give it some bad blood. A brawl on the stage during Rourke's Oscar acceptance speech might do it. If not, he could always rape Rourke's mother.

29-01-2009, 14:34

One mention of Rourke from Jericho during the next few weeks, then its probably might still be on.

It has been confirmed that Ricky Steamboat will be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame this year. It is rumored that he will be inducted by Ric Flair.

Steamboat and Ted DiBiase got a lot of votes for last year's internal election regarding the WWE Hall of Fame. Vince McMahon takes the candidates with the most votes under consideration but makes all the picks in the end. The two wrestling legends weren't snubbed last year, but Vince knows he can't put all the best candidates in at once, so they are spread out over years.

Whoooo!

Joel

29-01-2009, 15:31

Can't believe Ted DiBiase isn't a member of the Hall of Fame already. Good news on The Dragon though. Another one who should already be a member.

BarnDoor

29-01-2009, 16:09

Steamboat is long overdue, and Flair inducting him is perfect, those guys had about 5-6 of the greatest matches of all-time (89 trilogy, house show 89 match, Spring Stampede 94, Saturday Night 94). Dibiase is needed, but personally I'd have Rick Rude in there first.

Austin, Steamboat, The Funks....a quality line-up so far. Don't know about Bill Watts though.

Joel

29-01-2009, 16:14

Agreed on Rude. I love Eddie Guerrero, he was one of my favourites, but if he is in on the basis that he died around that time, then people like Rude should have been in it already.

29-01-2009, 16:25

BarnDoor

29-01-2009, 16:31

Guerrero should never have gotten in ahead of Austin, Flair, Steamboat, the Funks, the list goes on. Great wrestler yes, but overrated and only got in so early because he died.

I'm half surprised they're not inducting Owen this year, what with the 10th anniversary coming up.

Joel

29-01-2009, 16:47

I watched some of Vickies speech when Eddie was inducted. Shame to see what she has turned into now. I thought The Rock's speech was kinda funny but alot wasnt really needed like his "Finally!" But Flair would be honoured to induct Steamboat. I thought he wouldve done Austin cos he wanted Flair to induct him.

Kayfabe, HammerHead.

Guerrero should never have gotten in ahead of Austin, Flair, Steamboat, the Funks, the list goes on. Great wrestler yes, but overrated and only got in so early because he died.

I'm half surprised they're not inducting Owen this year, what with the 10th anniversary coming up.

When someone dies while being active, they will always be overrated.

Good shout on Owen. Although I'm not sure if he will ever get in.

29-01-2009, 17:20

Yeah but why do it anyway? Was she really that bored?

Joel

29-01-2009, 18:30

Why not do it? Good money, she doesn't have to take bumps (well, not usually) and like it or not, she is brilliant at her job.

There is no heel in that locker room who gets more heat than Vickie Guerrero.

BarnDoor

29-01-2009, 18:53

Why not do it? Good money, she doesn't have to take bumps (well, not usually) and like it or not, she is brilliant at her job.

Brilliant at being a fat repulsive cunt?

Joel

29-01-2009, 21:16

That more or less is what they want from her, so yes.

30-01-2009, 09:25

Vince McMahon himself has issued an official response regarding today's news of Mickey Rourke pulling out of a proposed match with Chris Jericho at WrestleMania XXV. The WWE Chairman issued the following statement to www.EOnline.com: "I am pleased that Mickey Rourke will be in attendance at WrestleMania to support the WWE Superstars who support him and the film in which he stars, The Wrestler." .

Baddar

30-01-2009, 12:17

That more or less is what they want from her, so yes.

My opinion is that I hate Vickie so much that I love her. Her character is annoying, but her OTT "Excuse Me~! - I have something to say!" is great.

Haribo

02-02-2009, 18:51

Mike Knox is in the Elimination Chamber. :lol:

I pray this match is early on the card, as this is the most obvious victory Cena will ever get. Still, at least we may get JBL/HBK at No Way Out instead of WrestleMania.

Joel

02-02-2009, 18:55

Mike Knox owns for three reasons;

He admits to beating on people for no reason.
His voice.
But most importantly - The beard!

Baddar

02-02-2009, 18:57

I hate him because his character is pretty much the same as Snitsky's, and they're not too dis-similar in appearance either.

Snitsky had a thing with Rey before, now Knox does. And it's boring me. He'll probably be released by the end of the year.

Joel

02-02-2009, 19:02

He's a far better in ring worker than Snitsky.

Haribo

02-02-2009, 21:13

Snitsky had a thing with Rey before, now Knox does. And it's boring me. He'll probably be released by the end of the year.
End of the month, please. :(

Who else will be added to the Chamber? Jim Duggan?

03-02-2009, 09:45

If anyone didnt know, then now you will.

The word going around backstage is that "Stone Cold" Steve Austin will have one final match at WrestleMania. The angle will be close to what they did with Ric Flair last year.

The name being thrown around would be Shane and Austin vs. The Legacy "Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes and Ted Dibiase. The original idea would be "Stone Cold" vs. The Rock building the 25th anniversary of WrestleMania but Dwayne Johnson shot that idea down with his current movie obligations. According to my sources, Vince did pitched the idea of The Rock fighting his "farewell" match at next year's WrestleMania.

SLAM! Wrestling conducted an interview with former WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus at an autograph signing this past Tuesday in downtown Toronto. Stratus was signing copies of Inside Fitness magazine and wrestling memorabilia for her loyal fans.

Stratus discussed her one-off appearance on Raw last month. She said she practiced her "Matrix" move "at least 40 times" prior to the show (which she used against opponent Santino Marella) to make sure she could still do it. Stratus also said it would be hard to pass off wrestling at WrestleMania 25. Stratus said she had not been contacted about appearing, but left the impression that something could come together in the future.

"I would definitely like the chance to finish off what I started with Beth in a one-on-one scenario," Stratus said. "No tagging out, no Santino shenanigans, just one dominant female against the other."

Stratus also said she wouldn't mind wrestling another WWE Diva in Natalya.

"Nattie I think is going to be a major player soon, given the right chance to do what she does best," Stratus said. "Everyone knows how much I respect the Hart lineage, using Bret's sharpshooter in my retirement match, wearing the pink and black boots in Toronto ... it's not a coincidence. So I would be honoured to face someone who is a part of that legacy and I have no doubt in my mind that we could blow away an audience."

It was announced during tonight's Raw that Ric Flair would be appearing on next week's show to respond to Chris Jericho's comments earlier in the evening. This will be Flair's first appearance on WWE television since his requested release from the company this past summer. Flair last appeared on WWE television back in June during a "McMahon Million Dollar Mania" segment.

Orton and Taker' next week Raw

Haribo

03-02-2009, 10:05

I read that about Austin, but it must be bull. There's no way he would lose, nor should the Legacy lose. Besides, Orton's facing Cena.

Still hopeful of a Trish return, and Rock for next year.

Joel

03-02-2009, 13:47

Austin should not come back to the ring and I think he knows this. He had a great career, there is no need to go and ruin it by having a botched match. He ended his career with a match against The Rock - The most popular wrestlers in the Attitude Era. A fitting ending to an awesome career.

Baddar

08-02-2009, 18:59

The UK Broadcasting rights to World Wrestling Entertainment are up soon after 4 years and Sky (Sky Sports) may have a fight on their hands to secure a new deal with WWE. Virgin Media and Setanta Sports are both in line to battle for the rights to air the weekly broadcasts of RAW, Smackdown! and ECW as well as the monthly PPV's and specials. WWE Joined Sky Sports fully in 2002 after many years airing on the UK's fourth terrestrial Channel 4. The demise of WWE on Channel 4 was credited due to a number of things during the live edition of Royal Rumble 2000 Mae Young exposed herself live and soon after Channel 4 imposed a live delay on the PPV's this pretty much lead to a non-renew of contract and an outbid from Sky Sports. The Channel also aired commercials during the PPV which become increasily unpopular with fans.

WWE's tenure with Sky has not always been smooth sailing in 2003 Sky controversially refused WWE Armageddon making it the first WWE PPV not to be shown on Sky in years. Due to a contractual dispute with WWE (although the problem actually goes back as far as December 99' when Channel 4 outbidded Sky for 4 PPV events including Armageddon), Sky refused to broadcast the show, which meant that UK WWE fans weren't able to see it. However several weeks later a new WWE Box Office package was released and it still exists in the same form today in which UK fans pay for several of the PPV's such as Wrestlemania, Summerslam (£15/$30) etc while a nice number are free! in recent years Sky Box Office has began 3 for 2 offers toward the end of the year on PPV's. Sky Sports airs all WWE specials such as Saturday Nights Main event, three hour RAW's and one hour promotion clips from upcoming DVD releases. If that was not enough Sky airs WWE Vintage collection which replaced Heat in the UK in 2008.

Recently WWE announced 'This Week in WWE' and 'WWE Vintage Collection' will be moved to Eurosport in all its European territories excluding the UK further sign that Sky might win the rights. Setanta Sport are becoming a bigger threat to Sky signing many large football broadcasting contracts and not to mention being the UK home for UFC. Virgin Media on the other hand seem to be the less likely candidate although they did express interest several years back in fight Sky for the rights but that was when the company was known as NTL before Virgin purchased them in 2006.

Whoever gets the broadcasting rights to WWE has a heck of a lot of programming on their hands plus replays! only time will tell.

Credit To:
(Written By: Ben Kerin - Wrestling-Radio.com)

Ugh. Hope it stays on Sky.

BarnDoor

11-02-2009, 10:34

As suspected with the Texas theme, the Von Erichs will be in this year's HOF.

Austin, Steamboat, Funks, Von Erichs...fantastic and deserving line up this year.

Rambo

12-02-2009, 10:58

Ugh. Hope it stays on Sky.

I'd go ape shit if Shitanta gets the rights.

12-02-2009, 19:00

I dont think theyd get it cos Setanta havent looked at developing a HD service, which of course doesnt go well with the WWE HD selling point.

But if Setanta give swap their UFC coverage for WWE with Sky, id think it'll be good. Sky would handle it good.

BarnDoor

13-02-2009, 10:26

I see the WWE has a Savage DVD coming out in June. Its 3 discs, so it doesn't look like they're going to do a Warrior job on him. Still, without his cooperation, and Vince's obvious vendetta, I can't see it being entirely favourable.

Jonno394

13-02-2009, 10:51

It might include the bonus home made dvd he made with stephanie.......

13-02-2009, 10:56

Id buy for that. "Oooooo Yeeeea!"

Haribo

14-02-2009, 23:36

Couple of possible rumours:

-Stone Cold is pencilled in to appear on at least 2 RAW shows between No Way Out and WrestleMania. Could just be because of his Hall Of Fame induction mind.

-The first house show after WM has Jeff Hardy/Triple H/John Cena vs. Matt Hardy/Edge/Randy Orton scheduled for a 6 man tag match. Sounds like all 3 one-on-ones are going to happen at Mania then.

Baddar

16-02-2009, 12:52

Just a note;

I don't want anyone spoiling No Way Out in this thread until at least the end of Raw tonight. Use the NWO thread for comments on that, please.

19-02-2009, 21:42

New York Magazine caught up with Mickey Rourke last night at a fashion show in New York City and asked him about his involvement at WrestleMania. "We're gonna go in support. Vince McMahon, Roddy Piper, and Ric Flair have been such a part of the movie," Rourke said. "So whatever support I can give back to all those people from WWE, I'm gonna do that." When the reporter asked Rourke why he backed out of his rumored match with Chris Jericho, NYMag.com writes that Rourke's publicist jumped in and said, "We don't need to talk about that."

Regarding Hogan vs. Cena at WrestleMania, I was informed about the possibility of such a match on Monday night from a source within WWE, which is where all the Internet rumors on Hogan started. It has not yet been confirmed, but there has definitely been some back-and-forth between Hogan and the company about the wrestling legend doing the match.

If Hogan doesn't go through with the match, Cena will simply face Edge for the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania. But if Hogan ends up going through with the match, Edge will square off against Big Show as they already have a program in place.

As far as a Chris Jericho vs. Mickey Rourke match is concerned, WWE definitely wants to go through with it, but it remains to be seen whether Rourke himself comes through. Right now, Rourke is publicly saying he's not doing the match, but company officials expect him to change his mind following the Academy Awards. If Rourke goes through with the match, a boxing match is expected to take place with Ric Flair in his corner. However, WWE has a back-up plan in place should Rourke not go through with the match.

During the build towards WrestleMania, Chris Jericho will continue to run down a wrestling legends. WWE is looking to do some sort of scenario where Jericho takes on several legends in a match at WrestleMania.

hmm

BarnDoor

20-02-2009, 21:51

I think Terry Funk will be one of the legends, given that he will be in the Hall of Fame. A proper retirement match for Funk at Wrestlemania, in Texas, would be fantastic and richly deserved. Infact, Funk vs. Jericho in a Hardcore/Texas Deathmatch would be great in its own right.

AgentZero

20-02-2009, 22:03

man mickey rourke is one ugly fucker. How is wrestling these days?

Baddar

22-02-2009, 10:47

I'm fed up of this Hogan shit.

First, he's on good terms with the company, something happens, so he most definitely is not, and won't ever be appearing again, and now it seems they want him to do WM.

He just comes across as a bit of a dick to me. I certainly don't jump out of my seat when his music hits any more.

If I could have Hogan vs. Cena or Trish vs. Beth at WM, I would most definitely pick the latter.

Haribo

22-02-2009, 11:14

If I could have Hogan vs. Cena or Trish vs. Beth at WM, I would most definitely pick the latter.

I can't believe there's rumours of Trish facing McCool at WM. :huh:

Papa

22-02-2009, 14:34

I'm fed up of this Hogan shit.

I personally can't stand Hogan. Crucify me if you must, wrestling fans but I just find him pathetic and not very entertaining.

22-02-2009, 14:37

Alot of us dont anymore.

Bish

26-02-2009, 12:06

Surprised TNA have been forced to let Petey Williams and Sonjay Dutt go. WWE should look at bringing in both of them.

Joel

26-02-2009, 22:14

How wwre they forced, Bishop? I haven't read any stories on it, so I don't know what is happening.

Bish

26-02-2009, 22:27

How wwre they forced, Bishop? I haven't read any stories on it, so I don't know what is happening.

My mistake. Petey Williams' leaving is part of the storyline apparently with Beer Money Inc, he's supposed to be returning to TNA in a month.

Sonjay Dutt has left though, 2 sides couldn't agree a deal.

Baddar

27-02-2009, 14:42

I can't believe there's rumours of Trish facing McCool at WM. :huh:

I haven't read anything about that, but I know that if Trish was going to have a match against anyone, it would DEFINITELY be Beth.

For me, a dream scenario would be Beth going over, and the two of them hugging/showing respect for each other in the ring. It'd be a great way to turn Beth face. I'm not saying they need to, but if they did, I'd like it done that way.

Haribo

05-03-2009, 23:59

Couple of WrestleMania rumours:

-Hogan will be facing Chris Jericho

-There will be a 25-diva battle royal, featuring past and present female superstars. Sunny seems to lined up, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Trish. :)

Joel

06-03-2009, 00:16

Mae Young will definitely be in it. Debra should also be in it, which leads Stone Cold to come out and give her another beating.

Joel

06-03-2009, 16:34

I still find this hilarious:

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BarnDoor

09-03-2009, 21:33

The Hall of Fame 2009 was shaping up to be flawless, and then they add Koko B. Ware. Tasty brainbuster aside, he was fucking useless and about as popular as cancer, and I don't know how the fuck he's in it ahead of Rude, Dibiase, 1000 other wrestlers. Fucking Frankie was more deserving before he snuffed it.

Bish

11-03-2009, 14:19

Apparently the surprise entrant in that Women's Battle Royal is Wendi Richter, who was part of the original screwjob.

12-03-2009, 19:58

Isnt getting any younger and is getting increasingly out of shape, despite claiming he has lost weight. I think theres a better role for him these days. Maybe just a color commentator.

WWE Intercontinental Champion John Bradshaw Layfield, 42, has been telling people backstage that he will likely be retiring from the ring by May. His back problems that caused him to originally retire in 2006 have resurfaced and his retirement from WWE appears imminent. Layfield is not listed in the May house show bookings that have been released.

As noted earlier, Layfield recently claimed he would be doing something historical that would shock the wrestling world at Wrestlemania XXV. Regarding his claim, it's been speculated that JBL will retire as the Intercontinental Champion, something nobody with the exception of Trish Stratus as WWE Women's Champion at the 2006 Unforgiven pay-per-view has ever done.

In a strange pairing, Layfield will be teaming up with Vladimir Kozlov against the team of Undertaker and Shawn Michaels next week on Raw. It's interesting to note that in a blog post yesterday, Jim Ross actually speculated on a Layfield vs. Kozlov feud. While this is only speculation, Dave Meltzer believes the strange pairing could indicate a quick Kozlov/JBL break-up, allowing JBL to go to his home state of Texas at WrestleMania XXV as the babyface and face "The Moscow Mauler" with the Intercontinental Championship on the line. It would cast JBL in the right atmosphere for a retirement ceremony/moment.

Considering CM Punk is already tied to the Money in the Bank Match, he will definitely not be facing JBL at WrestleMania — so there's not many candidates left. With the exception of Kozlov, the highest slotted candidate not already accounted for on the lineup at "The 25th Anniversary of Wrestlemania" is Rey Mysterio. However, nothing has been done to even start anything in that direction, and time is running short. Following next week's show, there will only be two weeks left to build towards WrestleMania.

Bish

12-03-2009, 22:59

His original back problem was down to his tits weighing him down. I actually thought he was an alright co-commentator.

12-03-2009, 23:03

:chanlaugh: Those things are huge, cant help but stare at them for a good 5 seconds to see if they had grown from the last time he wrestled.

So did I. Who better to commentate than someone who has faced the some of the best and has been around for a long time.

BarnDoor

13-03-2009, 11:14

JBL is repulsive to look at, he should have stayed retired.

Joel

13-03-2009, 11:46

Yeah, he really shouldn't have returned to the ring. He was doing a great job on commentary and since returning to the ring, he has not done anything worthwhile.

Going into his hometown as face, beating Kozlov and then announcing his retirement from the ring, would be a nice ending for him.

BarnDoor

14-03-2009, 11:33

Funniest news I've heard in ages - Andrew 'Test' Martin has died, aged 33. Probably of 'roid cancer, who gives a fuck. He was a talentless cunt who I always hated, so just let us all be thankful he's burning in hell.

Joel

14-03-2009, 11:43

Oh shit. That's unexpected. It's got to be roids though.

The other day I was thinking of signing him in my EWR. Think I'll pass on that now.

He only done two good things - Stacy Keibler and Kelly Kelly. For that, I'll give him a RIP.

Haribo

14-03-2009, 11:45

I always did think of him as a cunt. Managed to date both Keibler and Kelly just for being a suped up arrogant 'roid user. I expect Scott Steiner and Batista can't be too far off.

Joel

14-03-2009, 11:50

I remember hearing something about Foley not liking him and saying that Stacy could do a lot better.

BarnDoor

14-03-2009, 12:25

Difference is Scott Steiner belonged to one of the greatest tag-teams of all time, has talent and we like him. Test never had any, and we always hated him.

Joel

14-03-2009, 16:51

I love how fake people are. Over at WF they are so many people saying how they are so upset and that they were a fan of his. Yet prior to his death there was never talk about him and I doubt the thread made when he got released was big.

A load of bollocks.

Bish

14-03-2009, 20:51

Fuck, that is a surprise. Apart from his big boot to the face, I didn't find him that entertaining or talented though.

I expect Scott Steiner and Batista can't be too far off.
I'm hoping for Batista.

EDIT Quotes from his MySpace page from a few weeks ago:
“They say nobody retires from wrestling.

“I can't tell you how much I hate to see guys keep working long after they should be dead or permanently disabled.

“You have to ask yourself what is your health worth? To me? You can't put a price on it!

“So what are you wrestling for? One man's greed so he might throw you a bone?

“I loved wrestling, it was good to me. I'm still young, I'm in the shape of my life, I've got some money tucked away.

“I never got into wrestling to be rich and famous.”

Joel

14-03-2009, 21:19

He's definitely a hypocrite. I remember he layed into the WWE when Eddie died. He was saying, oh don't join the WWE, it doesn't pay well, blah blah blah. Then he joined them to be apart of the new ECW.

He always came across as a dick to me and I'm not going to say any different, because he is dead now.

Kelly Kelly said on her myspace how he was the world to her, how he was her best friend and questioned God why he took him away from her. I wonder if she gave a damn about him when she had Big Dave's cock in her mouth?

mattlarge

14-03-2009, 22:31

Test is dead?!

How and when?

Jonno394

15-03-2009, 09:01

another one bites the dust eh?

Did i just see a tumbleweed roll on by?

Eric Clyde

15-03-2009, 14:39

No, I stopped it.

http://cache.boston.com/images/bostondirtdogs//Headline_Archives/BDD_tumbleweed_head_perfectuk. jpg

Baddar

19-03-2009, 14:45

March 17, 2009
DETROIT, MI - Former UFC Heavyweight Champion, Tim Sylvia was involved in a fight at a bar in downtown Detroit Michigan with 7 foot, 320 pound WWE Superstar, Glen 'Kane' Jacobs (pictured above).

No details are currently being released on how the fight started. A witness says the two were arguing and Tim Sylvia instigated the fight. Jacobs quickly took Sylvia to the ground and repeatedly punched him in the face. The bartender along with a bystander helped pull Jacobs off Sylvia. Sylvia was said to have suffered a broken nose and a black eye.

The police were notified but since the fight was not prolonged and neither man wanted to press any charges, no arrests were made. Sylvia was driven by a friend who was with him to the hospital to treat the broken nose. Glen Jacobs left the scene with his wife shortly after.

It's so unbelievable that it makes you think "storyline" straight away, but early indictations are that this is legit, and did happen.

UFC/WWE doesn't really mix, and I know they've referred to WWE as "fake wrestling" before, so you wouldn't expect them to run a story together. Plus, Kane's already in a match at WrestleMania.

So, all I can say is...

GO KANE~! - HOW FAKE IS IT NOW?!

Eric Clyde

19-03-2009, 15:36

Also referring Kane to his real name which I don't see all the time with these reports. I think Kane is a fat piece of shit now but good on him.

Bish

19-03-2009, 15:57

Even for a UFC fighter, why start on Kane? He's still an athlete.

Well Done to him. Would have been good if he gave him a chokeslam and then did his evil, paedo laugh afterwards.

Joel

19-03-2009, 19:40

http://msnsport.skysports.com/wwe/ - Sky Sports have their own little WWE page now :chanlaugh:

19-03-2009, 19:56

They had MVP and Kennedy on SSN. Maybe to get the fans in the UK excited for this sole match?

Papa

19-03-2009, 20:12

So how much of the Wrestlemania card do we know?

Joel

19-03-2009, 20:23

So how much of the Wrestlemania card do we know?

Confirmed:

World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H (C) vs Randy Orton

WWE Championship
Edge (C) vs Big Show vs John Cena

Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels

Jeff Hardy vs Matt Hardy

Money In The Bank Ladder Match
Kane vs CM Punk vs Mark Henry vs MVP vs Shelton Benjamin vs Kofi Kingston vs Christian vs Finlay

Tag Team Championship Unification Match
Miz and Morrison vs The Colons (Carlito and Primo)

Miss WrestleMania
25 Diva Battle Royal

Rumoured:

Chris Jericho vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper and Jimmy "Superfly" Snucka (with Ric Flair in their corner)

Intercontinental Championship

John Bradshaw Layfield (C) vs Rey Mysterio

Dan

19-03-2009, 20:42

John Bradshaw Layfield (C) vs Rey Mysterio

Is this just a case of getting Rey on the card or is something actually rumoured to go down? Because shirley he should be in the MITB match?

Joel

19-03-2009, 20:48

Yeah, Mysterio should have been in that match. They opted for Kane instead :mellow:

Well, I called it a rumour, but it was kind of announced on Raw when Michael Cole said that Rey is issuing a challenge to JBL at WM for the title. I think it's just to get both Mysterio and JBL on the card. Also, the IWC has been crying for an IC title match at WM for ages now, so it'll please them.

Eric Clyde

19-03-2009, 20:49

Is this just a case of getting Rey on the card or is something actually rumoured to go down? Because shirley he should be in the MITB match?

On RAW during Rey Mysterio's match Michael Cole said that Mysterio had issued a challenge to JBL for the Intercontinental championship at WrestleMania.

EDIT: Joel beat me to it. :(

Haribo

19-03-2009, 21:27

Surprised R-Truth wasn't put in the MITB either. I don't really care for him, but he seems to be extremely over (with the kids at least) and he could do some good in a ladder match. Plus he was on the WrestleMania poster.

Wonder what they're planning on doing with ECW. As of now they don't have a match sole branded, and you'd expect the title to be defended. Swagger/Bourne or Swagger/Dreamer Extreme Rules plz.

Haribo

20-03-2009, 14:22

Well, to add to that above paragraph:

Regarding plans for the ECW Championship at WrestleMania XXV, well, there aren't any.

Unless plans change just before the show (or they do a dark match), ECW Champion Jack Swagger will not be defending his belt at the pay-per-view.

Vince McMahon lost faith in Swagger after his lackluster outing with Finlay at last month's No Way Out pay-per-view. While McMahon still wants to push him, they don't feel he's ready for live television quite yet.

Had McMahon decided on letting Swagger compete at WrestleMania, his opponent would have been Evan Bourne. As a result, he will be left off the card too.

In another sign indicating the company has no plans on having an ECW Championship match take place at WrestleMania, company officials opted to make next week's edition of ECW on Sci Fi an "All-Divas" special promoting the 25-Diva Battle Royal instead of building towards something regarding the ECW Championship at the event. Following next week's show, there will only be one week to go and almost no time to build up an ECW match at WrestleMania. WWE wanted to make use of next week's episode of ECW to at least promote something relevant regarding WrestleMania, hence the "All-Divas" special.

Maybe it's a fake and the leaker gets fired. :shifty:

But I doubt it.

Joel

20-03-2009, 14:38

If this is true then I'm a little annoyed. I'm a fan of Swagger and I believe that the ECW Title should be defended at all PPV's like the other titles. Why can't we have a Swagger vs Dreamer Extreme Rules for the title? There should also be a Bourne vs Kidd match as it has the makings to be awesome. It's not as if the card already too many matches.

World Heavyweight Championship
Triple H (C) vs Randy Orton - 25 minutes

WWE Championship
Edge (C) vs Big Show vs John Cena - 20 minutes

Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels - 25 minutes

Jeff Hardy vs Matt Hardy - 15 minutes

Money In The Bank Ladder Match
Kane vs CM Punk vs Mark Henry vs MVP vs Shelton Benjamin vs Kofi Kingston vs Christian vs Finlay - 20 minutes

Tag Team Championship Unification Match
Miz and Morrison vs The Colons (Carlito and Primo) - 10 minutes

Miss WrestleMania
25 Diva Battle Royal - 10 minutes

Rumoured:

Chris Jericho vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper and Jimmy "Superfly" Snucka (with Ric Flair in their corner) - 10 minutes

Intercontinental Championship

John Bradshaw Layfield (C) vs Rey Mysterio - 10 minutes

Now add in;

Swagger vs Dreamer - 15 minutes

Kidd vs Bourne - 10 minutes

That all comes upto 2 hours and 50 minutes. They then have an hour for entraces, build ups and any other shit they want to do.

Haribo

20-03-2009, 15:33

Aye, Vince really is making a mockery of the ECW title even more than ever. The brand only has one singles title and is their equivalent of the the WWE/World Heavyweight, but it's treated with about as much prestige as the Divas title. Swagger/Dreamer doesn't need to be a long match, even 7 minutes would do, and having Dreamer win would add a special moment to the PPV.

Of the timings you put I expect the two 'world' titles to be 5 minutes shorter each. Same with MITB. I presume you just did a rough estimate though and didn't think about it in great detail. Last year's WM had just shy of 2 hours wrestling for a 4 hour PPV.

EDIT: JBL/Rey's confirmed on SmackDown tonight I think.

Joel

20-03-2009, 15:44

Yeah, I was just throwing out times that allows those extra two matches to be added.

Dreamer winning would be a nice moment though. Although Swagger winning would be more beneficial to WWE. We can forget it though, Vince won't allow it to go ahead. Neither Kidd vs Bourne.

Haribo

20-03-2009, 16:05

Seems as though the Hardy/Hardy bout has been made extreme rules. It was needed, and should therefore be a great contest.

BarnDoor

20-03-2009, 16:48

Fink will be the last entrant into this year's Hall of Fame apparently. Richly deserved.

Joel

20-03-2009, 17:00

Fink will be the last entrant into this year's Hall of Fame apparently. Richly deserved.

Agreed. I was wondering whether he was ever going to make it in at all, as he should have been in there ages ago. Still think a spot was wasted on Koko. Could have gone to Rick Rude, man.

BarnDoor

20-03-2009, 17:44

There were enough big stars inducted as it is this year so I'd be happy to see Rick Rude enjoy a greater focus, perhaps next year with Dibiase.

Baddar

20-03-2009, 19:46

Yeah, they're purposely spacing them out. Otherwise, if they put all the known deserving ones in straight away, we'll end up with sucky HoF ceremonies.

Bish

23-03-2009, 13:27

Another one:
WRESTLER Steve Doll, best known for his WWE run as Steven Dunn in the tag team Well Dunn, passed away earlier today in Tennessee.
Doll, 44, had been on life support and his family made the decision to remove him from his ventilator.

He was hospitalised two years ago after suffering a type of seizure related to an intestinal blockage.

Doll began his career in 1984, training with Rick and John Davidson.

He eventually made his debut in Shreveport, Los Angeles, in May 1985 against Dick Slater.

Having worked for Pacific Northwest Wrestling from 1987 to 1992, he formed a tag team with Rex King called the Southern Rockers in 1989.

They tagged together for over a decade, including their WWE run as Well Dunn — King went by the name of Timothy Well.

The team, managed by Harvey Wippleman (Bruno Lauer), were used primarily on the undercard and feuded with The Bushwhackers on several episodes of Monday Night Raw.

Doll also had brief stints in WCW and the United States Wrestling Association, as well as numerous southern independents.
I remember Well Dunn well. Least it doesn't seem to be drug related.

BarnDoor

23-03-2009, 15:28

Very good news indeed, I remember reading he was ill a while back. A truly shit tag-team.

Joel

23-03-2009, 16:20

I actually can't remember this guy, or the tag team he was in.

We need some more installments in the Down and Out Club, Barndoor.

Bish

23-03-2009, 16:28

I agree, what happened to Percy Pringle joining the club?, amongst others.

BarnDoor

23-03-2009, 16:29

All in good time boys, but for now:

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Joel

24-03-2009, 14:06

I haven't read the spoilers so I don't know the outcome of this, but hopefully tonights ECW tag match with Swagger and Kidd vs Bourne and Dreamer leads to a fatal 4 way match for ECW Title at WMXXV.

Haribo

24-03-2009, 18:46

I haven't read the spoilers so I don't know the outcome of this, but hopefully tonights ECW tag match with Swagger and Kidd vs Bourne and Dreamer leads to a fatal 4 way match for ECW Title at WMXXV.

If only they had that much sense. After scrapping the 'all-divas ECW', I thought we may get developments for an ECW title match. Seems not.

Tag team titles unification now has a lumberjack stipulation.

Joel

24-03-2009, 18:58

The List

Top 10 Favourite Wrestlers
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

Top 5 Favourite Tag Teams
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)

Top 3 Favourite Stables/Factions
1)
2)
3)

Top 3 Favourite Managers
1)
2)
3)

Favourite Play-By-Play Commentator

Favourite Colour Commentator

Greatest WWF/E Heavyweight Champion

Greatest WWF/E Intercontinental Champion

Greatest WWF/E Tag Team Champions

Greatest WWF/E PPV

Greatest WWF/E Match

Greatest WWF/E Gimmick Match

Biggest Match in WWF/E History

Biggest Moment In WWF/E History

Most Memorable Moment In WWF/E History

Greatest Promo In WWF/E History

Greatest Catchphrase In WWF/E History

Greatest Moniker In WWF/E History

Greatest Entrance In WWF/E History

Greatest Finisher In WWF/E History

---------------------------------------------------------------

I used WWE as I think that is what most people watched, but feel free to use other promotions if you wish. Also if you want to add anything to the list, go ahead.

The List

Top 10 Favourite Wrestlers
1) The Ultimate Warrior.
2) Stone Cold Steve Austin.
3) Rick Rude.
4) The Rock.
5) Shawn Michaels.
6) Bret Hart.
7) Mr. Perfect.
8) Undertaker.
9) The Texas Tornado.
10) Randy Savage.

Top 5 Favourite Tag Teams
1) Demolition.
2) Rockers.
3) Edge & Christian.
4) Hart Foundation.
5) Twin Towers.

Top 3 Favourite Stables/Factions
1) Corporation.
2) DX (Late 90's).
3) The Brood.

Top 3 Favourite Managers
1) Bobby Heenan.
2) Slick.
3) Debra.

Favourite Play-By-Play Commentator
Jim Ross.

Favourite Colour Commentator
Bobby Heenan.

Greatest WWF/E Heavyweight Champion
Hulk Hogan (Ironic huh?).

Greatest WWF/E Intercontinental Champion
Bret Hart.

Greatest WWF/E Tag Team Champions
Demolition.

Greatest WWF/E PPV
WrestleMania X-7.

Greatest WWF/E Match
Randy Savage vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (WrestleMania III).

Greatest WWF/E Gimmick Match
Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon Ladder Match (WrestleMania X).

Biggest Match in WWF/E History
The Ultimate Challenge: Ultimate Warrior vs Hulk Hogan (WrestleMania XI).

Biggest Moment In WWF/E History
Hulk Hogan body slamming Andre The Giant at WrestleMania III.

Most Memorable Moment In WWF/E History
The blood streaming down the face of Austin, whilst he is in Bret Hart's Sharpshooter at Wrestle Mania XIII.

Greatest Promo In WWF/E History
Austin at King Of The Ring 1996.

Greatest Catchphrase In WWF/E History
"I'm the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be" - Bret Hart.

Greatest Moniker In WWF/E History
The Peoples Champion - The Rock.

Greatest Entrance In WWF/E History
Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XII.

Greatest Finisher In WWF/E History
The Stone Cold Stunner.

BarnDoor

24-03-2009, 21:01

I'll stick with WWF for now, but I'll do a WCW one as well later. Probably do the WWF later this evening, got to think about it first.

Joel

24-03-2009, 21:03

Before I made my list I said, "I used WWE as I think that is what most people watched, but feel free to use other promotions if you wish. Also if you want to add anything to the list, go ahead.".

I didn't watch enough WCW, ECW and other promotions to make questions, so if you want to add things related with them, then feel free to do so.

BarnDoor

24-03-2009, 21:03

Sorry I just saw that so I edited my post.

Bish

24-03-2009, 21:59

Top 10 Favourite Wrestlers
1) The Ultimate Warrior
2) Raven
3) Sid
4) Bret Hart
5) Mr. Perfect
6) Owen Hart
7) Ted Dibiase
8) Ric Flair
9) Mick Foley
10) Rick Rude

Top 5 Favourite Tag Teams
1) Demolition
2) L.O.D
3) Hart Foundation
4) Acolytes ( bit less when became APA)
5) Money Inc.

Top 3 Favourite Stables/Factions
1) nWo
2) Ministry of Darkness
3) The Corporation

Top 3 Favourite Managers
1) Bobby Heenan
2) Slick
3) Jimmy Hart

Favourite Play-By-Play Commentator
Tony Schiavone

Favourite Colour Commentator
Bobby Heenan

Greatest WWF/E/WCW Heavyweight Champion
WWF - Bret Hart
WCW - Sting

Greatest WWF/E Intercontinental Champion
Mr. Perfect

Greatest WWF/E/WCW Tag Team Champions
WWF - L.O.D
WCW - Steiner Brothers

Greatest WWF/E/WCW PPV
WWF - Royal Rumble 1992
WCW - (Haven't been able to see as much as I'd like but so far) Fall Brawl 1996
Greatest WWF/E/WCW Match
WWF - Royal Rumble Match 1992
WCW - (Again, like above) War Games 1996 - WCW vs nWo

Greatest WWF/E/WCW Gimmick Match
Undertaker v Mankind - King of the Ring 1998

Biggest Match in WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - Ultimate Warrior v Hulk Hogan - Wrestlemania VI
WCW - 'Hollywood' Hogan v Sting - Starrcade 1997

Biggest Moment In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - Vince on Raw, Shane on Nitro
WCW - Hulk Hogan turning heel and forming nWo at Bash of the Beach 1996

Most Memorable Moment In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - Montreal Screwjob/Bret spitting on Vince
WCW - nWo formation

Greatest Promo In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - Ultimate Warrior's 'cockpit' one
WCW - nWo (quite a few)

Greatest Catchphrase In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - ''Everybody's got a price'' - Ted Dibiase
WCW - ''"What about me? What about Raven?!"/Quote the Raven. Nevermore''. - Raven

Greatest Moniker In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - The Excellence of Execution - Bret Hart
WCW - Da Man - Goldberg

Greatest Entrance In WWF/E/WCW History
(in general)
WWF - The Undertaker
WCW - Goldberg

Greatest Finisher In WWF/E/WCW History
WWF - Tombstone - The Undertaker/ F5 - Brock Lesnar
WCW - Diamond Cutter - DDP/ Spear/Jackhammer - Goldberg
TNA - Canadian Destroyer - Petey Williams

Fuck me that took a long time.

Joel

24-03-2009, 22:45

Some awesome choices by Bishop there, especially Warrior :smug:

I think I need to watch some of his matches again. The three against Rude mainly. I love on the joke of a DVD they made for him, how HHH says, "He was so unprofessional". Guess he was still upset about Warrior totally no selling the pedigree and squashing him completely :lol:

BarnDoor

26-03-2009, 14:28

Understand that when I say WWF/WCW/ECW, I'm putting them in the federation I believe they were most prominent in:

Top 10 Favourite WWF Wrestlers (in no particular order)
1) Randy Savage
2) Rick Rude
3) Hulk Hogan
4) Bret Hart
5) Curt Hennig
6) Steve Austin
7) Jake Roberts (pre-1996 abortion years)
8) Ted Dibiase
9) Mick Foley
10)

Top 10 Favourite NWA/WCW Wrestlers (in no particular order)
1) Ric Flair
2) Sting
3) Vader
4) Arn Anderson
5) Sid
6) Ricky Steamboat
7) Scott Norton
8) Lex Luger (a guilty pleasure)
9) Harley Race
10)

Top 10 Favourite ECW Wrestlers (in no particular order)
1) Mike Awesome
2) Tazz
3) Raven
4) Saturn
5) Sandman
6) Sabu
7) Terry Funk
8) Rob Van Dam
9) Jerry Lynn
10) Rhyno

Top 5 Favourite WWF Tag Teams
1) Demolition
2) Twin Towers
3) The Acolytes (before they became the APA)
4) Legion of Doom
5) British Bulldogs

Top 5 Favourite NWA/WCW Tag Teams
1) The Steiner Brothers
2) The Outsiders
3) Arn and Tully
4) The Freebirds
5) Vicious and Delicious (look it up)

Top 5 Favourite ECW Tag Teams
1) The Dudley Boyz
2) The Eliminators
3) Public Enemy
4) The Unholy Alliance
5) Sabu and RVD

Top 3 Favourite WWF Stables/Factions
1) Nation of Domination
2) Ministry of Darkness
3) The Heenan Family

Top 3 Favourite WCW Stables/Factions
1) NWO (no Wolfpac bullshit)
2) The Four Horsemen
3) Raven's Flock

Top 3 Favourite ECW Stables/Factions
1) The Network
2) Dudley family
3) BWO

Top 3 Favourite WWF Managers
1) Slick
2) Bobby Heenan
3) Jimmy Hart

Top 3 Favourite NWA/WCW Managers
1) Harley Race
2) Arn Anderson
3) Rick Rude

Top 3 Favourite ECW Managers
1) Joel Gertner
2) Cyrus the Virus
3) Sinister Minister

Favourite Play-By-Play Commentator

Favourite Colour Commentator

Greatest WWF/E Heavyweight Champion

Greatest WWF/E Intercontinental Champion

Greatest WWF/E Tag Team Champions

Greatest WWF/E PPV

Greatest WWF/E Match

Greatest WWF/E Gimmick Match

Biggest Match in WWF/E History

Biggest Moment In WWF/E History

Most Memorable Moment In WWF/E History

Greatest Promo In WWF/E History

Greatest Catchphrase In WWF/E History

Greatest Moniker In WWF/E History

Greatest Entrance In WWF/E History

Greatest Finisher In WWF/E History

I'll finish it later.

Hunter

26-03-2009, 16:03

Good idea this, although my memory for specific things can be shocking at times so we'll see how it goes. I'll probably edit it later on once I can remember everything. I've added another one at the bottom which popped into my head (Favourite WWF/E Belt). :cool:

Top 10 Favourite Wrestlers
1) The Rock
2) Stone Cold Steve Austin
3) Triple H
4) Mick Foley (loved Mankind)
5) Rob Van Dam
6) Kurt Angle
7) Undertaker
8) Chris Jericho (was amazing during my childhood)
9) Edge (whenever I watch it nowadays, Edge is a quality heel)
10) Shane O'Mac (I used to love him, "which way did he go?") :lol:

Top 5 Favourite Tag Teams
1) Road Dogg & Mr. Ass
2) Dudley Boyz
3) Hardy Boyz
4) Edge & Christian
5) Rock 'N' Sock Connection :lol:

Top 3 Favourite Stables/Factions
1) DX
2) The Corporation
3) NWO

Top 3 Favourite Managers
1)
2)
3)

Favourite Play-By-Play Commentator
Good old JR, Jim Ross.

Favourite Colour Commentator
The old school Jerry Lawler before he dumbed down a bit.

Greatest WWF/E Heavyweight Champion
I'm assuming this is asking "favourite" as opposed to "greatest", so The Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin, difficult choice.

Greatest WWF/E Intercontinental Champion

Greatest WWF/E Tag Team Champions
Road Dogg & Mr. Ass

Greatest WWF/E PPV (in no order)
Royal Rumble 2000
Summerslam 2000 ? (where Shane O'Mac faced Steve Blackman)
One Night Stand (the first PPV was great)
Over The Edge ? (Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Dude Love springs to mind)
I know I'm missing loads, but my memory is shit, there will be more I want to add, such as the ones including TLC's etc.

Greatest WWF/E Match

Greatest WWF/E Gimmick Match
The TLC series between The Dudley Boyz, Hardy Boyz and Edge & Christian.
Hell In A Cell - Undertaker vs. Mankind
24/7 Hardcore Rule

Biggest Match in WWF/E History

Biggest Moment In WWF/E History

Most Memorable Moment In WWF/E History
Mankind being thrown off the top of the Hell In A Cell onto the announce table, a truly "OMG" moment.

Greatest Promo In WWF/E History
I wouldn't be able to remember just one, although I loved a lot of The Rocks, as did everyone, he was that good. The Rock singing as Elvis Presley was priceless too. "Found a new place to dwell, it was right at the end of Jabroni Drive, at Smackdown Hotel." :chanlaugh:

Greatest Catchphrase In WWF/E History
"If you smell what The Rock is cookin'"

Greatest Moniker In WWF/E History
The Rock - The People's Champion (nice twist with The Corporate Champion too)

Greatest Entrance In WWF/E History
Undertaker's is immense, sheer entertainment value.
Stone Cold Steve Austin's, where the glass shattered and he walked through looking all bad-ass. (Epic as fuck).

Greatest Finisher In WWF/E History
The People's Elbow for the entertainment factor.
The Pedigree.

Favourite WWF/E Belt
http://www.umasda.com/dotnet/images/BeltCollection/DSC00005.JPG

I know I have picked several things instead of one on this list of questions, but it's way too difficult to choose just one sometimes.

Joel

26-03-2009, 17:28

Nice addition with favourite looking title.

https://secure.internet-host.net/rb/images/icwhitead.jpg

Warrior and Michaels used to change the colour of the strap for this title. Loved it.

Bish

26-03-2009, 17:31

I loved the white belts, and the yellow one Warrior had for his IC belt.

Random news, Juventud Guerara is pissed off because apparently Konnan took a shit in his gym bag whilst he was wrestling over at AAA, Juventud later accused him and got beat up.

Phatmann

27-03-2009, 16:25

I haven't been a regular wrestling watcher for a long time so I'll stick to my 10 favourite WWE wrestlers for now.

Top 10 Favourite Wrestlers
1) Kane (before he was unmasked)
2) Mankind
3) Shawn Michaels
4) The Rock
5) Diesel
6) Ken Shamrock
7) IRS
8) Bret Hart
9) Goldust
10) Bam Bam Bigelow

Haribo

27-03-2009, 22:24

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/baronvonmavis/1235949580938.jpg

:lmao:

Joel

28-03-2009, 15:03

Austin :lol:

Shawn Michaels went up another legendary level with his antics on Smackdown.

http://i41.tinypic.com/sybbl1.gif

BarnDoor

28-03-2009, 15:12

Looks a bit like Hakushi from afar.

Joel

28-03-2009, 15:22

Couldn't remember Hakushi, but googled him and you're right. Not too long ago I was watching SummerSlam 1995 (an awful PPV, btw) and he opened the PPV defeating 1-2-3 Kid.

Hunter

29-03-2009, 17:01

Anyone fancy meeting Bret Hart ?

http://www3.waterstones.com/wat/images/nbd/l/04/9780091932855.jpg

LINK (http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayDetailEvent.do?searchTy pe=1&author=Bret|Hart&auid=1005)

Dan

29-03-2009, 17:50

As if that's only just coming out here. I forgot all about it.

I still have to buy Jericho's which is meant to be a good read, but I'll definitely pick up the Hitman's when I have a bit of extra cash.

Baddar

29-03-2009, 20:02

Ugh. Would've been nice to see him come closer to Cardiff. :(

Joel

29-03-2009, 23:08

x83M3_RdbJY

:lol:

Hunter

30-03-2009, 11:15

:chanlaugh:

Surely that's a complete piss-take, only thing that's putting doubt in my mind is that it's on American TV.

Papa

30-03-2009, 11:53

:chanlaugh:

Surely that's a complete piss-take, only thing that's putting doubt in my mind is that it's on American TV.

It's from the Onion which is a satirical magazine so I think it's fairly safe to say it's a piss-take.

Bish

30-03-2009, 12:26

Outthink The Fink
http://www.wwe.com/play/games/outthinkthefink/

I got 19/25 ;)

Papa

30-03-2009, 12:35

Outthink The Fink
http://www.wwe.com/play/games/outthinkthefink/

I got 19/25 ;)

I got 7, of which I knew 3 and the rest were guesses!

Bish

30-03-2009, 13:26

A few of mine were guesses too.

Joel

30-03-2009, 13:54

16/25 for me.

Haribo

31-03-2009, 17:45

Former ECW World champion and long-time WWE announcer Tazz left World Wrestling Entertainment last night after calling the matches for this Friday's edition of Smackdown.

He is now officially done with the company as his WWE contract expires today.

More soon.

Surely that's nonsense?

Joel

31-03-2009, 17:55

Lol?

Maybe JBL will lose the IC Title then commentate with JR.

Haribo

31-03-2009, 19:04

Apparently he's upset by how much Vince shouts at him during commentary, similar to why Foley and Coach left.

Why have anyone under contract until just before WrestleMania? Even if they're not renewing it you'd think it would expire the week after WM. (I am right in thinking 'Mania is considered the end of the wrestling calendar year, despite feuds continuing?)

If I were Tazz I'd want to stay and do Sunday, even for free. Of course I don't know the exact situation, but I'd want my final broadcast to be on the "grand-daddy of them all".

Joel

31-03-2009, 22:40

It's a strange situation. Hopefully more information will come out soon.

JsGU71cJ4no

Brilliant.

Edit:

http://i39.tinypic.com/30w7f9g.jpg

Test, Batista, Jericho...

I call Edge next.

Joel

01-04-2009, 14:08

Oh boy.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/9719878?cid=2009EP-00

Hunter

01-04-2009, 14:25

:chanlaugh:

I bet Hornswoggle pops out, turns out, Finlay's the father.

Haribo

01-04-2009, 15:30

Test, Batista, Jericho...

I call Edge next.

Jericho's married with kids though. For the time being at least. :lol:

Are they going for a storyline where Vickie doesn't know whether it's Big Show or Edge's child, then it turns out to be Chavo's? All with Eddie's seal of approval of course.

Joel

01-04-2009, 15:33

Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be Chavo's. That'd be crossing the line. I doubt Chavo would agree to this either.

Just let it be Batista's.

Anyone caught Santino Marella's dance on Raw? Oh dear God.

Joel

01-04-2009, 22:52

It was an April Fools joke played by John Cena, btw.

Haribo

11-04-2009, 10:49

Kane met with WWE Officials in Stanford this past week and he has officially declared that he will be retiring in June. He does not plan to renew his contract with WWE when it expires in late June. When asked about his post-wrestling plans, he has been telling many stars backstage that he is considering a run for political office.

Undertaker/Kane at Great American Bash?

11-04-2009, 10:52

Hope so, it would be fitting to a decent career. Ive enjoyed his antics but more with the mask.

Just hope he doesnt fuck up his post wrestling life.

Joel

11-04-2009, 18:50

Kane is not the same from when he first came in, but I'll still miss him, tbh.

Shame he always turned down another title run. Really would have liked to see him with the strap properly.

Baddar

11-04-2009, 19:26

Where did that bit of Kane news come from?

11-04-2009, 19:58

Yeah true on Kane's title history, he was really dominant in his heyday. But still, he's a one time champion and that counts for alot for his career. Future HOF candidate?

Haribo

12-04-2009, 12:47

http://www.wrestlinggonewrong.com/video/lawler_jbl_dicks.html

:lol:

CRISSGRAN

13-04-2009, 13:17

I think it was supposed to be DECKS! Cm punk back into the corner. Wrestling is absolute pish now, no passion or surprises anymore just tired same old shite. Wrestlemania 25 was probably the worst in a long while, oh and thanks to the PG rating there will be no blood shown anymore even at PPV's.

Joel

13-04-2009, 15:27

eYXOglEZesg

Awoo Woo Wee Wee Woo.

13-04-2009, 20:08

Bit of a rumour for the upcoming Draft.

Mark Henry & Tony Atlas have been rumored for a move to RAW while The Hardy's and Miz/Morrison are rumored for a split. At last word, Matt Hardy was expected to head to RAW while Jeff will be staying put on SD!. Four WWE Divas are also set for moves including both champions.

Sweey

13-04-2009, 20:35

13-04-2009, 20:47

Cena and Batista are arguably the two biggest main eventers in the WWE, in terms of challenging for the top titles, something that Rocky and Austin were doing aswell. I cant recall Cena or Batista doing something otherwise and I personally think its dented their popularity with most fans. I think when Jeff and Edge do something apart from title runs, it does alot for them, they arent thrusted into the title spotlight and are allowed to do more.

Papa

13-04-2009, 20:54

Right, got a question for some of you.

I didn't watch wrestling in the late 80s/early 90s when it first broke into England. I actually only started watching WWF (as it was then) in the mid to late 1990s when Stone Cold Steve Austin was on his way up and feuding with Shawn Michaels and the rest of D Generation X. This is when Farooq was leader of Nation of Domination which included The Rock - probably late '96/early '97?? EDIT: Los Boricuas or something like that were around too.

Anyway, I watched wrestling up until the Raw/Smackdown split which I believe was around 2002. Since then I've once or twice tried to get back into it but for me the likes of Batista and John Cena are frankly dire personality-wise compared to Austin and the whole scenario they had back then.

My quesiton is: does it even compare to back then right now? Would I find it easy to get back into? The whole thing seems a bit tired to be from afar - the same old PPV names which was bad enough back when I still watched, etc. but I could be wrong.

Pretty much my exact situation. I watched Wrestlemania and some other PPV with my brother and really could not be bothered with these new wrestlers. They seem to have no personality whatsoever. Even the ones I liked when I watched it had got worse (Kane without a mask, Hardy Boys split up, I'd put Edge and Christian here too but I understand they wanted to give Edge a push and Christian was always holding him back). I don't like the whole draft idea either, just splits up the wrestlers limiting the possibilities for decent matches. So I suppose I'd ask the same question as Sweey.

13-04-2009, 21:00

Id say the wrestlers with the best traits and personalities or ones who can really hype a PPV by themselves are Randy Orton, HHH, Edge, Undertaker, HBK. The last two dont look asif they are going to be given many title oppurtunities so their storylines are a bit down.

Joel

13-04-2009, 21:18

Undertaker's storylines are alway carbon copies, but Shawn's storylines are usually good. Both wrestlers always bring the best out of their opponenets though and that is why I regard them very high.

To answer Don Sweey's and Papa's question - no. It doesn't compare to back in the late 90's eayly 00's. This is because they don't have Austin's or Rock's anymore. These two were able to connect to the fans and basically get them to do anything. If you watch Rock's promos, you can see that he would say that the fans will be chanting his name and instantly they start a Rocky chant. No one in the business right now can do this.

Then there is also the fact that WWE targets children a lot more now a days. To be honest, this is the market that makes Vince the most money, so can you really blame him?

Also something that is missing is a solid mid card and tag team divison. When Rock, Taker, Austin and HHH were feuding over the title, you had other great things to look out for, such as awesome Intercontinental title matches with Jericho, Benoit, Angle, etc. They were tag team matches that involved Hardys, Dudleys, E&C, Acolytes etc. Then there was the element of fun with the hardcore divison.

You don't get this now, because WWE writers only care for main eventers and they don't always deliver.

The main problem for all of this is that there is simply no competition. TNA is not going trouble WWE anytime soon and they are the only other company that is relatively global.

13-04-2009, 21:23

Good points, I was thinking the same, just couldn't put them the way you did. But do you think the WWE will ever have another generation like that? Or even a Rock/Austin leading the brand?

Joel

13-04-2009, 21:26

Not for a long time. For this to happen they will need serious competition, which makes them target young males (17-29) again.

In the mean time, I'll carry on loving Layla.

Edit: And the Bella twins.

13-04-2009, 21:30

You would've thought with the way Cena and Orton have come up that they wanted those two to do a similar job. I think they havent handled Cena very well since his first real title chase.

Haribo

13-04-2009, 21:51

Bella twins? Oh dear.

I don't see the need for this PG change. Back in the attitude era, the main audience was still children, but had a lot of adult content geared towards an adult audience. I would accept the removal of swearing, gimmicks like Val Venis the pornstar and less emphasis on the bodies of divas to make it more child friendly. However, they've taken it much too far with the removal of blood, renaming the FU to Attitude Adjustment (both horrible), and even renaming One Night Stand. I noticed at WrestleMania Austin didn't even give a middle finger salute, yet an hour earlier in the event I heard Roddy Piper screaming "get the fuck out!" Two weeks ago Ric Flair was bleeding profusely. Where's the continuity with it all?

The main reason people like Cena are disliked among the adult community is because he's at the forefront of this PG turn, with his very immature jokes (only a child would like), and he (on screen at least) brought in the spinner belt. God, just looking at that belt makes me angry.

13-04-2009, 21:54

Attitude Adjustment? :faceplm: Whats the STFU called then? STAA? :faceplm:

Joel

13-04-2009, 22:09

John Morrison and I can see past the Bella's big chins.

I remember when Scarface used to say Melina looked like a pig or something. The fuck was he smoking?

BarnDoor

13-04-2009, 22:56

Original?

13-04-2009, 23:24

If it was a trade off for hiring wrestlers with ability it could be a good move.

CRISSGRAN

13-04-2009, 23:27

Attitude Adjustment? :faceplm: Whats the STFU called then? STAA? :faceplm:

lol it's just being called by it's actual real name, the STF. Why they added a U at the end... I really didn't see the point in the first place

CRISSGRAN

13-04-2009, 23:34

You think that's bad - any matches on 24/7 with blood turn black and white during the parts where blood is present, while all matches with blood on future DVDs will suffer the same fate.

If they want to put across the idea that they are really hurt though, as they usually do, I just don't see the point in this... people bleed quite easily, especially from the head. If you are "punched" a hundred times in the head, ud expect to bleed at somepoint. At wrestlemania Matt Hardy had a little blood on his head, I don't know if you noticed but almost immediately a trainer ran down with a towel to wipe it away as it's, "not allowed"

Bish

14-04-2009, 14:46

I'm actually looking forward to Lockdown on Sunday, despite the last few PPVs being shite. It's in Philadelphia so they have to put on a good show to please the locals. Every match in the cage.

Sting v Mick Foley, expecting Foley to have a big spot in that one. Lethal Lockdown match looks good (basically War Games for people who don't know). MEM v Jarrett, Joe, AJ and I've just read the surprise entrant is Christopher Daniels. Suicide is fighting on the same night so make of that what you will.

Joel

14-04-2009, 14:53

Yeah, Lockdown is shaping up nice. Tag Title match will be good as well.

Hopefully Foley jumps off the top of the cage, Sting moves, Foley crashes down on the canvas, allowing Sting to get his baseball bat and reenact that scene from Casino.

I'd be great to see Daniels back on our screens. Don't understand why it has taken this long.

Baddar

16-04-2009, 15:51

A 9-year-old wrestling fan jumped off his Brooklyn apartment roof wearing a homemade parachute - a fatal imitation of his favorite video game character, friends said.

Damori Miles' broken body was found on the ground outside the Albany houses about 7 p.m. Tuesday.
Wrapped around his body was the string and plastic bag he use to craft his makeshift parachute, police sources said. The boy died at Interfaith hospital an hour later, police said.

"It's terrible. The kids try to imitate what they see and they think they can fly," said family friend Sumore Murrel, 29.
She said the third-grader was supposed to have a play date with her two children Shakar 11, and Kevin, 9, Tuesday night, but never showed.

"His older sister came knocking on the door looking for him at 7:30. She had no idea he was dead. None of us did," Murrel said.

Instead, the little boy had left his 10-floor apartment on Bergen Street and walked up to the building's roof.
Shakar Murrel, Damori's best friend, believed his pal jumped off the roof to imitate his favorite PlayStation2 video game "Smackdown Raw."

"He tried to do a swan dive (?) like Jeff Harding (?) does in Smackdown. That was his favorite game. He played it all the time. That was what he was trying to do. If I would have seen him up there I would have told him not to do it."
The roof door was still unlocked and open Wednesday morning, and the alarm that was supposed to go off was broken, neighbors said.

"I was sitting inside and I heard a thump. I looked out my window and saw the boy on the ground. He was on his back and his clothes were ripped off. There was foam coming from his mouth. It was horrible," said Chiquita Jones, 25.
"The door to the roof should have been locked. Damori didn't have to die," she said.

Damori's mother told detectives she had gone to the store and came home to find her son on the ground, police sources said.
Sumore Murrel said she wasn't sure her kids were going to be playing the video games anymore.

"I need to keep a better eye on what they are playing or watching. Kids are so impressionable," she said

Ugh.

16-04-2009, 15:59

:faceplm: Wouldn't you say its only a small amount of kids that actually try to do this? All my cousins watch WWE and TNA on some occasions(which is sometimes more exciting with the frequent high-flying) and they know best not to do those things. They may try the odd submission move, but havent we all?

Eric Clyde

16-04-2009, 16:26

Haribo

20-04-2009, 23:05

Jericho vs Steamboat at Backlash. Very happy with that. :)

Joel

21-04-2009, 13:43

The match should be really good. Hopefully Steamboat gets the 3 and then he can leave the ring on a high note.

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/tnawrestlingphotos.com/cache/tna-knockouts/the-beautiful-people/velvet-sky/IMG_5039.jpg_650.jpg

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/tnawrestlingphotos.com/cache/tna-knockouts/the-beautiful-people/velvet-sky/IMG_5018.jpg_650.jpg

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/tnawrestlingphotos.com/cache/tna-knockouts/the-beautiful-people/velvet-sky/IMG_5003.jpg_650.jpg

http://http.cdnlayer.com/tnawrestling/tnawrestlingphotos.com/cache/tna-knockouts/the-beautiful-people/velvet-sky/IMG_4983.jpg_650.jpg

Credit: TNA Website.

Don't know how Helms is with her, but he's a lucky guy.

BarnDoor

21-04-2009, 14:15

Bobby Lashley in TNA. Truly the end is nigh for them

Joel

22-04-2009, 17:57

Reports are saying that Jeff Hardy has rejected a contract extension, has handed in his notice and will be finishing up in 2-3 months. They say he is burned out and wants to do other things rather than wrestle.

If this is true, it sucks man. He brings so much life to the crowd. It'll be a huge blow to WWE.

If Matt wins the I Quit match this Sunday, the reports would be all but confirmed true.

ih8puppies

22-04-2009, 19:57

Pretty much my exact situation. I watched Wrestlemania and some other PPV with my brother and really could not be bothered with these new wrestlers. They seem to have no personality whatsoever. Even the ones I liked when I watched it had got worse (Kane without a mask, Hardy Boys split up, I'd put Edge and Christian here too but I understand they wanted to give Edge a push and Christian was always holding him back). I don't like the whole draft idea either, just splits up the wrestlers limiting the possibilities for decent matches. So I suppose I'd ask the same question as Sweey.

I third that motion. You just can't compare to the J.O.b squad. As said in conversations Ive had with friends who used to watch, buying out WCW effectivley killed the competition so they had to create there own, hence Smackdown v Raw v ECW. Just doesnt feel the same as watching Nitro on the friday on 5, then Raw on the saturday.
But bring back The Rock and we'll talk.

CRISSGRAN

23-04-2009, 12:17

The days of The Rock vs Austin, Bret Hart vs Roddy Piper, Macho Man vs Flair and even Malenko vs Finlay are long long gone now and they are never coming back. TNA is just about dead now, I mean putting the belt on Foley rather than pusing your young versatile talents. Giving the old guys all the breaks and screen time, over booking the endings for almost all main even matches... It's all the mistakes that killed WCW all over again, F*ck Russo, F*ck Booker T, Jarret, Nash etc I respect what all of these wrestlers did in the past, but they should be getting over the younger guys more, and I'll admit some of them have, Booker T however... Hasn't even tried.

Haribo

24-04-2009, 13:03

Raw & Smackdown/ECW tickets for Sheffield in November go on sale in the morning. I'm tempted. :/

Joel

24-04-2009, 13:14

Do it! You'll have a good time.

I'm planning on going to the DX Revenge Tour at the O2 in November.

Haribo

25-04-2009, 11:20

I am majorly pissed off. Got Row 2 ringside(!) for Raw, then kept getting a "communication error" on the final stage of confirming. Continually tried until time ran out and they wiped the order clean. Twats.

Got row 6 in a similar position, and it was accepted first time. Twats x2.

Joel

25-04-2009, 12:03

That's a shame, but they are still great seats. Don't wet yourself when Michael Cole comes out now ;)

Haribo

25-04-2009, 13:12

On row 2 I would have been close enough to grope him. :(

Papa

25-04-2009, 13:24

Joel, what is this DX tour you speak of? I was always a big fan of them.

Also, who is that TNA girl you posted above? :wub:

Joel

25-04-2009, 14:04

The DX tour is basically a Raw house show (not live broadcast), where Triple H and Shawn Michaels will be in their DX gimmick for it. So they'll come out to the DX theme, do their "Are you ready", "suck it" and the like. It's in November at the O2 arena. Tickets when on sale this morning.

The TNA girl is called Velvet Sky (her real name is Jamie Szantyr). She's wrestled in the independent scene a lot under the name, Talia Madison. She's currently dating Gregory Helms (The Hurricane). And she's banging hot from head to toe!

25-04-2009, 14:20

DX Tour, very interesting. If I get a pair of tickets, wanna link up :naughty:

Haribo

25-04-2009, 16:34

Should I take a poorly made sign? Just to fit in. :/

Still rueing missing out on the 2nd row!

Bish

04-05-2009, 17:23

If I can be serious for a moment, here's a decent article by Lance Storm. I agree with pretty much all of it.
http://www.stormwrestling.com/050109.html

04-05-2009, 17:32

Decent read so far. He has valid points. And im sure we arent the first to cry out for these things. I even think top bosses in the WWE realise this too, but can they really risk what they've built now? I mean, sure they've fucked up their system, but it was all due to them moving onto a new era. That you cant blame them for doing.

Eric Clyde

04-05-2009, 19:01

That was a good read and I do agree with him on most of the stuff. I would also like to add to that, although this is mainly aimed at WWE. Tag team division has went right down the shitter. The rivalries between The Hardys, Edge & Christian and The Dudleys were great and leaded to great matches. What tag teams have we got now? The Colóns and Cryme Tyme. London and Kendrick and MNM were decent but as soon as Paul London and Joey Mercury were punted then that was it for them. The Miz and Morrison had a good run but ended with similar (except they are both with the company still), however I still liked John Morrison better as Nitro and in MNM.

Unless Shelton Benjamin is going to get a push (personally I would like to see him feud with John Morrison as I thought their last match on SmackDown! was entertaining) I think they could have continued withe the World's Greatest Tag Team a bit longer to keep things lively in the tag division. Now they pick two wrestlers out of a hat and put them in a match with The Colóns.

TNA's tag divsion looks decent with LAX, Motor City Machine Guns, No Limit, Lethal Consequences, British Invasion, The Dudleys and Beer Money, Inc. yet TNA is a smaller company than WWE.

I think that is all I can say on the subject but I miss the days WWE had some entertaining tag teams, feuds and matches.

Bish

04-05-2009, 19:53

04-05-2009, 19:59

I think Shelton should take his career and do something with it quickly, he been in with the WWE for a long time now. That in itself you have to give him credit for because its a cut-throat company. But I remember something like 2 years ago when him and another wrestler (I think it was Carlito) were looking as though they were being given the push they deserved. He has more abiltiy that Cena and Cena was given a gimmick that people loved and hated, either way he going to become popular.

Joel

04-05-2009, 20:31

You're only as good as the reaction you get.

I'm a big fan of Benjamin's wrestling ability, but many times he has come out and the crowd are just dead. No response.

I think it's a bit unfair to say WWE never does anything with him. They put him over HHH, Flair and he won a match against Orton in 2004. They have game him many titles. They have gave him matches where he can look great - Michaels in 2005. But Benjamin's problems thus far is that he doesn't know hoe to work the crowd, be it face or heel. If he could get that right, he'll be huge and WWE will have no choice but to recognise him.

04-05-2009, 20:38

Wouldn't it be a bit late though?

Also, did anyone spot the difference in Carlito's style? I
remember tuning in like a year ago he took my attention.

Bish

04-05-2009, 20:50

Joel

04-05-2009, 21:29

Wouldn't it be a bit late though?

Also, did anyone spot the difference in Carlito's style? I
remember tuning in like a year ago he took my attention.

Too late for what? Aa Benjamin push? Nah, he's 33, so time is still on his side.

Not sure what difference you mean with Carlito. If you mean highflying, then he was doing similar moves in his last face run in 2006.

Thats the problem though. The fans are dead for practically everyone except the main event wrestlers. Middle card wrestlers mean fuck all to fans these days. The kids in the arenas just want to see the Cena's, Batista's.

I agree 100%. That's why I don't think WWE can be blamed solely for some wretlers not being pushed. Bookers can put the wrestlers towards our attention, but it is fans attending to get them over by giving them a reaction.

It sucks what has happened to the mid card and tag division, but again, as a business, WWE is probably doing the right thing, by targeting the kids, as they are the ones who WWE make the most money from. It sucks for us old school fans, but that's just how it is at the moment.

BarnDoor

04-05-2009, 22:55

Apparently their gonna release a 'Rise and Fall of WCW' DVD. They approached Eric Bischoff to appear on it, he rejected the chance and rightly so.

I'm very glad he's not doing this - apparently he doesn't want to be part of WWE's infamous revisionist history. No doubt we'll get negative comments across the board, people commenting on stuff they have no idea about and Jim Ross generally being a fat repulsive cunt.

Regardless of what the WWE try and tell us, here's some simple facts:

1) Fuck the backstage politics (which were just as prominent in the WWF) - WCW up until March/April 1999 was fantastic.

2) From late-1992 to late-1994 and mid-1996 to early-1998 WCW was the better promotion.

3) If it wasn't for WCW you wouldn't have had the Attitude era.

BarnDoor

06-05-2009, 16:30

Shit how come no one told me that the Shawn Michaels: Heartbreak and Triumph DVD includes the legendary unaired Main Event match where the Rockers win the titles from the Hart Foundation in two out of three falls, but it never counted for a variety of reasons, depending on which you believe? I'll have to get this now and try and add the match to my copy of Main Event 1990, it'd be nice to have the full event.

Jonno394

06-05-2009, 16:33

Anyone close to death? It's been a while since a "legend" died.

BarnDoor

06-05-2009, 16:35

Well some fat cunt called Buddy Rose died last week, but you wouldn't know him. Certainly you're right, a proper death we can all laugh at is long overdue. We should start a betting pool. My money's on Tugboat/Typhoon/Shockmaster/Fat Cunt.

Joel

06-05-2009, 18:19

So someone from WF posted Zack Ryder's IMDB page.

He's starred in quite a few movies :huh:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2012133/

BarnDoor

10-05-2009, 12:23

Why the fuck are Triple H and HBK the main feature of the cover of the Allied Powers: The World's Greatest Tag Teams DVD? They're weren't even a tag team until their shit reformation a couple of years back. It just sickens me, bullshit like this. Edge and Christian really shouldn't be on it either, ahead of Demolition, the Road Warriors, the Steiners, etc.

10-05-2009, 12:37

The same feeling I got when I saw the cover of this years SvR game. Fair enough, there arent many great tag teams today, but those two hardly qualify to be the best in the WWE. I can only think that the little kids who will be looking to buy this will be scared by the looks of Demolition as they probably will have never seen them before.

But the actual show is decent enough but from what ive read, 'MnM' are presenting the whole DVD. But I still might get this.

BarnDoor

10-05-2009, 12:46

I won't get it as I have the matches worth seeing already. I wouldn't have even minded so much if they'd have put the Hardyz on the cover. The Rockers even. But DX is a joke.

10-05-2009, 12:59

The Hardy's would be my choice except they had to fuck up their stories. They should have just crammed the best stables together. The Steiners or the LoD should have been a dead certains for the cover though.

BarnDoor

10-05-2009, 13:04

Steiners I suppose I can understand since Scott's in TNA. Road Warriors though there's really no excuse for. Hell, even The Rockers gives you your beloved Shawn Michaels. British Bulldogs, Hart Foundation - need I go on?

Joel

10-05-2009, 13:30

I agree on the DX thing - they're not even in the best 50 tag teams. But it's Vince's son in law and good friend of the family, so it's not really a surprise. Also, the sad truth is, a lot of this generation would buy something with DX on the front cover, a lot more than Demoltion, Steiners, Hart Foundation, etc.

Also, don't be bad mouthing Edge or Christian. They were very important to face tag teams in the Attitude Era, such as the Hardys and Dudleys.

Joel

11-05-2009, 17:41

http://www.wweshop.com/displayimage.asp?product=W0021 7X.JPG

http://www.wweshop.com/displayimage.asp?product=00677 X.JPG

Don't know what it is, but the WCW Heavyweight Title, always has looked better than WWE's edited World Heavyweight Title to me.

Haribo

17-05-2009, 20:00

It looks like WWE is changing the name of the June Great American Bash PPV to "The Bash." Comcast employees were notified on Friday to update their marketing material to reflect the new name.

- 411mania.com / PWInsider.com

Good grief. :faceplm:

BarnDoor

17-05-2009, 20:30

Vince won't be content until he eradicates any memory of WCW.

Haribo

18-05-2009, 20:37

- WWE sent out a survey on a new PPV which would feature all-submission matches. They are asking fans to vote on a name for the show out of the following: WWE Submit & Quit, WWE Total Submission, WWE Submission Sunday and WWE Breaking Point.

Cringe. Totally unnecessary. Have they never heard of making the odd submission match for a PPV? Extreme Rules having one would be a start.

Total Submission is clearly the best of them btw.

Baddar

20-05-2009, 15:11

Submission Sunday would be the best of the bad bunch if it wasn't for Cyber Sunday.

And we're already seeing Cena-Big Show in a submission match at Extreme Rules as noted. That's going to be a yawn-fest, no doubt. There's a small possibility that Cena could "pass out" to a camel clutch, but there's no way he's tapping, and I'd say there's about an 85% chance of Show tapping to the STF.

Eric Clyde

23-05-2009, 14:30

Umaga talks - I laughed. :D

I thought he was going for a chair but as soon as I saw him grab the mic I thought 'oh no'.

Joel

23-05-2009, 15:36

Umaga talks - I laughed. :D

I thought he was going for a chair but as soon as I saw him grab the mic I thought 'oh no'.

I don't get why the commentators didn't act surprised. They acted like Umaga has a talk show.

Eric Clyde

23-05-2009, 15:54

I'm surprised at that too. Also sorry but I just realized I posted that in the wrong wrestling thread.

Haribo

27-05-2009, 23:02

Cringe. Totally unnecessary. Have they never heard of making the odd submission match for a PPV? Extreme Rules having one would be a start.

Total Submission is clearly the best of them btw.

Breaking Point won, and will replace Unforgiven. I guess this spells the end of the Scramble matches. Couldn't Cyber Sunday/Night Of Champions go instead? :(

All I'll think be able to think about is RVD's theme.

28-05-2009, 00:17

Cyber Sunday shouldve gone a Long time ago. I Think the hardcore fans already have thoughts that all votes are rigged.

Joel

28-05-2009, 00:20

Agreed. Cyber Sunday should have definitely gone. All it does is fuck up the calender, as they are two PPV's in October.

Extreme Rules should replace Night Of Champions to stop the 2 PPV's in June problem.

28-05-2009, 00:40

Plus wasn't it called Taboo tuesday? I thought sounded much more interesting. Sounded a bit naughty. Oh and it was on a weekday.

Haribo

28-05-2009, 00:53

Cyber Sunday shouldve gone a Long time ago. I Think the hardcore fans already have thoughts that all votes are rigged.

I'm not sure about rigged, but they certainly give a nudge wink in the right direction. Stone Cold being guest referee was always a shocker.

I prefer the name Taboo Tuesday, but that's ancient now. Get with the times, man! It's all about the PG. Bouncy castle Carnage to replace Armageddon next.

Joel

28-05-2009, 01:13

I actually thought it was cool to have it on a weekday. Just a little different than everything else.

28-05-2009, 01:22

But of course like guillermo said, PG standards, we can't have the kids of today watching violence on a school night!

The day Vince realizes that it's a shit move altogether. I will start getting into WWE again and I hope Cena packs it all in for a real acting or rap career.

Baddar

30-05-2009, 20:37

Joel

30-05-2009, 20:48

Not a big loss at all. He never progressed, due to injuries, a bad move to Raw and a horrible face run.

Bish

30-05-2009, 21:04

I've heard Raven, Shane Douglas and Victoria are joining/rejoining TNA. And Tazz isn't allowed on screen till July due to some clause in his old WWE contract.

Joel

30-05-2009, 21:08

I've heard Raven, Shane Douglas and Victoria are joining/rejoining TNA. And Tazz isn't allowed on screen till July due to some clause in his old WWE contract.

They were on last Thursday's iMPACT. So they will appear on Bravo tonight. Well, right now I guess.

Haribo

30-05-2009, 21:23

"World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Mr. Kennedy (Ken Kennedy) as of today, May, 29 2009. WWE wishes Ken the best in all future endeavors," read WWE's announcement.

Bwahaha.

I don't dislike him in any way, but that news is hilarious. An even shorter return than D'Lo. :lol:

Dan

30-05-2009, 22:27

There was some guy on wrestlingforums called Pryo who would always blab on about how awesome he is and how he was the future of the company. I bet he's taking the news well.

Joel

30-05-2009, 22:33

There was some guy on wrestlingforums called Pryo who would always blab on about how awesome he is and how he was the future of the company. I bet he's taking the news well.

Haha. He also worshiped JBL. They're both gone now :lol:

Baddar

31-05-2009, 12:30

I watched some of iMPACT! for the first time in ages last night. Firstly, how fucking lovely is Velvet Sky? When I stopped watching it, the Beautiful People were still babyface and I only got to see snippets of them as heels. Oh, and I saw Victoria's debut. It was semi-decent. The stiff Widows Peak (or whatever it'll be called now...) on Angelina Love at the end of the segment saved it.

And here's a lengthy article on Kennedy's release. Take from it what you will.

The details surrounding the release of Ken "Mr. Kennedy" Anderson from WWE are beginning to emerge.

Although on the surface his release may have come out of nowhere, the reality is that the departure was quietly building for some time.

Mr KennedyAs we reported earlier this week Kennedy injured his wrist while taking an RKO from Randy Orton in the main event on Monday's Raw... the same match that marked Kennedy's long awaited return to the WWE.

What was unclear at the time was the fact that Orton was working snug on Kennedy due to the fact that the returning wrestler had dropped him on his head while giving a suplex earlier in the match. Orton appeared to be selling the move by banging on the mat and shooting Kennedy a look across the ring
. However, the reality is that Orton was livid with the way he had just been treated and was infact pounding the mat in frustration.

In retaliation Orton worked stiff with Kennedy for the remainder of the match, including the RKO which hurt Kennedy's wrist. Orton's frustration likely carried over into the locker room. He likely got into the ear of WWE officials after the match and voiced his concerns about Kennedy.

But this wasn't the first sign of trouble for Kennedy within the WWE. A man who once was believed to be the future of the company, even from on high, Kennedy just never could seem to get it together.

In countless interviews Kennedy would put his foot in his mouth, even if unintentional.

Kennedy was very vocal about how great WWE's Talent Wellness Policy was in one particular interview in August of 2007. While he admitted to using steroids while working on the independent scene, he stated that the Wellness Policy got him to clean up his act and that he hadn't taken them since.

Just twelve days after that interview was published, an article in Sports Illustrated linked Kennedy, along with nine other WWE talents, to Orlando-based Signature Pharmacy. The pharmacy was raided by law enforcement agencies earlier that year for illegal distribution of steroids and other prescription drugs to clients.

According to documents obtained in the raid, Kennedy received shipments of Anastrozole, Somatropin and Testosterone between October 2006 and February 2007.

Kennedy claimed that they were for a torn latissimus dorsi muscle that he suffered in 2005.

In the weeks leading up to the Sports Illustrated article Kennedy was involved in a major storyline where he was to be revealed as the illegitimate son of WWE Chairman Vince McMahon. However, those plans had to be scrapped when Kennedy was suspended for 30 days for violating the company's Wellness Policy.

This past August Kennedy dislocated his shoulder during a match against Shelton Benjamin at a WWE house show. The injury kept him sidelined until this past Monday on Raw.

While out of action Kennedy stated that the injury may in fact be a career ender. Some within the company felt that he was milking it for more than it was worth.

Also during this time Vince McMahon was said to have lost faith in Kennedy. The once supposed future main eventer for the company had fallen out of favor. Too many missed opportunities... too many blown chances.

All of which brought us current to last Monday's events. Similar incidents happen frequently in the wrestling industry while workers get a bit snug and start "throwing potatoes." That, in itself, is hardly a reason for dismissal. In Kennedy's case it was simply the straw the broke the camel's back.

Eric Clyde

01-06-2009, 08:03

I only just found out about Mr. Kennedy about 10 minutes ago on another forum and I'm pretty shocked since it seemed he was making a come back but at the end of the day it isn't surprising since he is too injury prone.

Look out for him appearing on TNA. ;)

01-06-2009, 14:24

Sure he was a half decent character but neverr
really impressed my with his ability. For him to win the MITB and lose it was funny, kinda summer up his career.

Joel

01-06-2009, 14:41

Sure he was a half decent character but neverr
really impressed my with his ability. For him to win the MITB and lose it was funny, kinda summer up his career.

The mad thing is, if he didn't pick up the injury that put him out after winning MITB, he'd have been the one to cash in and beat Undertaker for the title, rather than Edge.

Baddar

01-06-2009, 14:43

The latest is that Kennedy isn't even injured. He's posted a Facebook video swinging his arms about, looking cockily at the camera, proving he isn't injured.

It isn't confirmed, but most wrestling sites are reporting that he was fired because he worked too stiff against Orton and slammed him down on his previously injured shoulder during the match, and Orton complained to Vince about it. This, along with many other things has apparently led to his firing.

Joel

01-06-2009, 14:53

Orton is getting a lot of pull backstage. Maybe too much.

BarnDoor

01-06-2009, 15:12

Orton sounds like a right cunt, as suspected. Reminiscent of 90s Michaels perhaps.

Baddar

04-06-2009, 18:32

Many wrestling sites (not WWE.com at the moment) are saying that WWE has re-signed Chris Masters. He'll be heading to development and re-debuting on TV "soon" apparently.

I quite liked Masters. I saw more potential in him than I did Kennedy, anyway. Let's hope he's cleared himself of the problems that got him fired the last time.

04-06-2009, 19:04

Bishop will be delighted :ninja:

Bish

04-06-2009, 19:09

Bishop will be delighted :ninja:

Well I can relate to him, in name and physique.

Dan

04-06-2009, 19:10

I quite liked Masters. I saw more potential in him than I did Kennedy, anyway.

As bad as Kennedy was, that's an insult. I mean, Kennedy was good-ish on the mic at least. Masters just failed miserably at everything.

Joel

05-06-2009, 01:30

I'm not a fan of Kennedy, but he was more than good-ish on the mic. Masters sucked major ass and should not get a second chance.

Joel

09-06-2009, 01:39

Umaga has been released.

He must have done something really bad, as he is one of the best big man workers in the industry.

BarnDoor

09-06-2009, 10:24

You are fucking joking? A fat talentless cunt is how I'd describe him.

Speaking of which, Vickie Guerrero has also handed in her notice. Therefore WWE has lost about 50 stone in a day.

09-06-2009, 10:39

He was a nice guy on top of being quite overweight as you say Barn.

Haribo

09-06-2009, 11:21

Will Vickie actually be leaving, or is it just all kayfabe?

God I hope she goes.

BarnDoor

09-06-2009, 12:27

Apparently she has handed in her notice, as she wants to spend more time with her family.

Joel

09-06-2009, 14:05

I don't agree with Barn. Umaga was able to move around the ring very well, he had a lot of speed for his size. He isn't as good as Joe was a few years ago, not even close, but Joe's level was very high.

Not to mention Umaga played his part in putting on one of the best Last Man Standing matches with John Cena.

Well good luck to Vickie. To be honest, no other heel in the company got as much heat as her. As annoying as she is, she was good for the show as she created a atmosphere.

Hunter is back and there is a 3 hour show next week.

BarnDoor

09-06-2009, 14:19

Umaga might one of the better big men today, but in a field that mainly consists of Mark Henry and fuck knows who else that's hardly anything to write home about. He's not in the league of past big men - Bam Bam, Vader (just the best, no one touches him), Norton, the Giant, Akeem/OMG, Andre, Studd, Yokozuna, Earthquake. Bear in mind that when I say big men I don't usually include 'tall and not fat men' like Sid, Brody, Taker and Nash.

You can smell the shit wafting off a Samoa Joe/Umaga feud even now.

Joel

09-06-2009, 14:45

Baddar

09-06-2009, 14:50

...Therefore WWE has lost about 50 stone in a day.

Ok, well that was funny.

I'm disappointed to see Umaga released though. It wasn't as if the WWE were jobbing him out at all, considering he beat Punk a month before he went on to become champion. I'm sure many stories will come out regarding it. Not all of them true, either.

BarnDoor

09-06-2009, 15:52

I just don't think you give Umaga credit as you hate this era. I reckon if he was exactly the same back in the 90's you'd have added him to that list.

I can't believe you added Andre to that list by the way. All he done was choke people.

I'm talking about Andre in his prime, not the late 80s. But even then he had something about him. And believe me, I would not add Umaga to that list, he's fucking shit. I don't have the Loch Ness Monster in there just because he was in WCW in 1996, or Mantaur just because he was in WWF in 1995-1996. A fat talentless shitcunt will always be just that, no matter what era they wrestle in.

Baddar

09-06-2009, 19:18

The following is from WWE.com:

Batista has suffered a completely torn left bicep requiring surgery that will keep him out of action for at least four months.

Fucking gay. Why bother making him champ? What annoys me more is they'll big-up his return, when we already know the way it's gonna go.

Haribo

09-06-2009, 20:00

Shit. Does that mean 3 months of Triple H/Orton? :faceplm:

I was hoping they could have a triple threat with Flair as ref, and then possibly involve Cena to get a fatal-4-way going at NOC. They need to push a couple to freshen up the Raw main event.

If Joel says The Miz, prepare for a slap.

Eric Clyde

09-06-2009, 20:24

The Miz and my name isn't Joel. :D

Seriously though, I think that was a bad move making Batista the WWE Champion. Orton should have just retained the title. Like someone said they still could have had Batista come out then get ambushed by Legacy and maybe Orton giving him a punt.

I'm definitely more interested in watching SmackDown! at the moment that's for sure although a bit gutted at Umaga. Like Mr. Kennedy he has only recently returned and being involved in the last 2 PPV events only to be released the day after.

Bish

09-06-2009, 20:27

No coincidence that Batista and Cena especially keep on picking up injuries.

Joel

10-06-2009, 01:53

The avatar is for you, Guillermo xxx

I reckon HHH and Orton's feud will end at SummerSlam in Hell In A Cell. I hope neither get the title, as the feud doesn't need it.

So give it to Miz :shfty:

Haribo

10-06-2009, 10:35

Big Show/Cena/HHH/Orton for the title next week.

No Miz. :smug:

Baddar

10-06-2009, 13:11

Is that confirmed? Would've thought MVP would be involved after what he said on Raw...

As much as Big Show doesn't really interest me lately and has no momentum going into it, he's probably the one I'll be pulling for to pull out the shock win, if only because Orton, Trips and Cena wins won't do much by way of changing things and making Raw interesting again.

Failing Big Show (I realise there's no way he's winning) just give it back to Orton, which I suspect that's what'll be happening, with Legacy beating the Colons soon after for their titles. A guy on EWB was talking about Legacy though, saying that we aren't being made to care for them at all. They're just the guys who do Orton's beat downs/get beaten down for him. There's not much else to them and they haven't really been tearing it up when in matches.