View Full Version : The subtle and yet relevant "Details" that you want to see in PES 2010.
Just thought we should make a thread for those "details" that although unimportant to the actual Gameplay, would add something to the game.
Features that have little to no effect on the actual Gameplay.. Untucked Shirts, Low Socks, etc, etc..
Personally I'm not that concerned about Untucked Shirts.. but the "Lower Socks" added a sense of individualism to the Older Versions, something that the newer ones clearly lack.
I think those small features are pretty easy to implement, and judging by all the people who have complained about not having the option of choosing "untucked shirts" or "lower socks" -- many fans do notice and appreciate such subtle features.
So this is The Thread for posting all those subtle features that you want back or think the game could and should have.
I definitely think more stadiums are needed. Not having old trafford or anfield even though both man utd are liverpool are licensed is criminal.
Free training in masterleague
Training mini games
I remember in pes 5 when a player got injured and wasn't a foul, a wee sign came up saying what happened, you kick the ball out of play, and when play resumes the computer AI kick the ball back to you.
Being able to use fixed mode for the goalkeeper
Snow weather effects
Telling us at the end of the match who was man of the match, description sentences on some players
can't thinkof much else atm
On one of the old ones, cant remember which one...there was like loads of training drills, free kick drills etc.
That'd be cool if they had that back.
Like as a sort of manual training tool thing.
This are just some of those Details that I would like to see back in PES. And also newer ones that I think would make cool features.
* I want the return of "Preset Faces" and "Preset Hairstyles".
Back in PES5 and PES6, we had over 200 "preset faces" and over 100 "preset hairstyles". This provided great freedom and variety in terms of Face Editing.. we could chose any Face from any Individual, we could chose any Hairstyle from any individual, we could tweak with the Face Proportions, and we could add "Facial Hair".
We even had Famous Hairstyles such as Roberto Baggio's trademark Ponytail and Carlos Valderrama's trademark enormous Afro.. plus Zinedine Zidane's hairstyle.
Which coupled with the "preset faces" gave me great possibilities, in fact I managed to create pretty accurate versions of Roberto Baggio, Carlos Valderrama, Fernando Hierro, and some others.
How cool would it be to see Carlos Valderrama in Next Gen Graphics!! see his enormous hair bouncing up and down whenever he moves, it would be a great way of "displaying" all the progress in terms of Graphics and Movements and Lighting.
I want that level of freedom back with PES 2010 -- over 200 Preset Faces to chose from, over 100 Preset Hairstyles to chose from, and a couple of Famous or Special Hairstyles. Complete freedom with the Face Editing.
Preset Faces always have and always will look miles better than "Build Faces".
* A New Feature that gives us the option of Tweaking with the Size of the Uniforms.
You want very short shorts, similar to the Classic Ones, you can do it. You want longer shorts like the ones in PES09, you decide that for yourself. Or you could chose in-between those two.
Longer Socks, Medium Socks, Lower Socks...
* A New Feature that gives us the option of placing Logos on the Sides of the Shirts, and on the Socks.
The two things that distinguish an Edited Uniform from an Authentic Uniform.
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Those are the Top 3 Details that I would like to see in PES 2010.
But other than that... It would be cool to have more Types of Textures in the Uniforms.
I definitely think more stadiums are needed. Not having old trafford or anfield even though both man utd are liverpool are licensed is criminal.
Free training in masterleague
Training mini games
I remember in pes 5 when a player got injured and wasn't a foul, a wee sign came up saying what happened, you kick the ball out of play, and when play resumes the computer AI kick the ball back to you.
Being able to use fixed mode for the goalkeeper
Snow weather effects
Telling us at the end of the match who was man of the match, description sentences on some players
can't thinkof much else atm
Yeah I also miss the little comments about the Man of the Match, that was cool.
I think it can be much better, an obvious improvement would be to have the commentators say Who was the Man of the Match and Why, before the end of each match. Like in Real-Life.
It would be even cooler if, for example you go to www.Goal.com/en.. you'll see that after each match they have a review of all the matches, with very detailed Player Ratings, it tells you everything you need to know about the match and the individuals.
We could have something similar in the Master League, but it must a lot more specific and detailed than the Older Ones they used in PES5 and PES6.
Now that Tactical and Strategic play will become more important, we will also need more detailed and specific "Player Ratings" or "Match Reviews".
So that we know how our Next Opponent Attacked and Defended throughout the match, the Strategies they used the most, the strategies they used when they created opportunities and scored Goals.
So that we can take note from that and prepare accordingly. I think this would make a good feature for the future, when Tactical and Strategic play is more important.
It may sound a bit over the top, but it would add a nice touch to the Master League. Plus it would be useful because you could check on your next opponent's style of play, just like in real-life.
Vitumbiko
10-04-2009, 00:21
I remember in Pes 5, when you used to play with classic teams all the players used to wear those small shorts. It kinda makes it feel as if your actually watching a classic game from the 80s and 90s. So I would like to see the small shorts back.
CDDRodrigo
10-04-2009, 00:28
*Really good Classic Teams (no fucking Viola instead of Garrincha for example)
*More hidden players
*More stats
*Master league completely remade
PESFan92
10-04-2009, 02:54
* The ability to import logo's and kit designs using a USB Memory stick on the XBOX360.
*Stadium Creater/Editor.
*Bundesliga
*More Classic players/teams.
* A "Match Preview/Review.
By this i mean say before a game in ML you would have a Preview of the game. Example:
Barcelona vs Real Madrid
The El Classico. Real Madrid travel to the Nou Camp in hot form with a 12 game unbeaten run and 7 points clear of Barcelona at the top. The manager of Real Madrid expects a close and feirce game. Barcelona go into this game in need of a win to keep their title hopes alive. After failing to reach the Semi-Finals of the Champions League last week the fans are hopfull of getting 3 points. Raul is in great goal scoring form for Real Madrid with 6 goals in 3 game and looks to extend his tally. Also, Eto'o, the leading scorer in La Liga, looks to extend his tally from 27 goals today."
Barcelona 3-2 Real Madrid
"Barcelona came from 2 goals behind to score 3 second half goals to keep thier title hopes alive. Real Madrid took the lead on 5 minutes when Van Nistelrooy pounced on an error from Milito, the lead was then doubled 10 minutes later when Robben linked up well with Gago and placed the ball past Valdes. Barcelona scored on the 53rd minute mark when Henry cut in from the left and unleased a feirce shot to beat Casilias. Messi then equalized 15 minutes later when he linked well with Eto'o and dinked the ball over the on coming Casilias. Barcelona then scorer a last minute winner when Xavi placed the ball for Eto'o to score his 28th goal of the season.
Things like that would make me happy.
* The ability to import logo's and kit designs using a USB Memory stick on the XBOX360.
*Stadium Creater/Editor.
*Bundesliga
*More Classic players/teams.
* A "Match Preview/Review.
By this i mean say before a game in ML you would have a Preview of the game. Example:
Barcelona vs Real Madrid
The El Classico. Real Madrid travel to the Nou Camp in hot form with a 12 game unbeaten run and 7 points clear of Barcelona at the top. The manager of Real Madrid expects a close and feirce game. Barcelona go into this game in need of a win to keep their title hopes alive. After failing to reach the Semi-Finals of the Champions League last week the fans are hopfull of getting 3 points. Raul is in great goal scoring form for Real Madrid with 6 goals in 3 game and looks to extend his tally. Also, Eto'o, the leading scorer in La Liga, looks to extend his tally from 27 goals today."
Barcelona 3-2 Real Madrid
"Barcelona came from 2 goals behind to score 3 second half goals to keep thier title hopes alive. Real Madrid took the lead on 5 minutes when Van Nistelrooy pounced on an error from Milito, the lead was then doubled 10 minutes later when Robben linked up well with Gago and placed the ball past Valdes. Barcelona scored on the 53rd minute mark when Henry cut in from the left and unleased a feirce shot to beat Casilias. Messi then equalized 15 minutes later when he linked well with Eto'o and dinked the ball over the on coming Casilias. Barcelona then scorer a last minute winner when Xavi placed the ball for Eto'o to score his 28th goal of the season.
Things like that would make me happy.
That's a great idea, having Reviews and Previews would really add something to the Master League.. it just gets a bit boring when you play important matches and there's no previews, no reviews, and to make it worst the Commentators do not seem to care about the importance of some matches.
I think I would prefer, instead of having to "read" a Preview, it would be better to make some short scenes.. Like for example Real Madrid vs Barcelona at The Bernabeu, we get a scene of the Stadium, the streets, the people entering the stadium, the players going out into the pitch, the players warming up..
And whilst all that Visual Action takes place -the- Commentators take care of giving us the Preview of the game, who's in-form, who's off-form, all the usual comments made in the build up to a game.
I think Commentaries are extremely important to the in-game action, if the commentators acted realistically -the- gameplay would feel a lot more realistic.
Example, you have Liverpool vs Chelsea -and- in Real Life you know the commentators will always mention Steven Gerrard and how important he is if Liverpool is to succeed against Chelsea.
And with Barcelona there's always plenty of talk about Messi or someone else.
But the PES09-Commentators don't seem to care about it, they never talk convincingly, they never get into the gameplay action, it just haves a negative effect on the realism and emotion that the game could have.
Better Commentaries are definitely The Most important "Detail". It doesn't influences Gameplay in a direct way, not like 360ª-movement would affect it. But are very important in my opinion.
I only want the gameplay back ! ! !
Dunno1982
10-04-2009, 13:24
Other than the gameplay there a plenty of little things i would like to either see implemented or brought back.
I loved the pre season training in Master League where each player could develop in the individual drills & depending on how the player performed that could have an impact on how much XP that certain player obtained.
The socks issue mentioned earlier should definately be brought back, i always liked playing with Roma & annoys me now that Totti's socks are never low now like they used to be.
I have an issue with the way the goalkeepers gloves look, it's as if someone has stuck an air line into them & blown them up - should look a bit more realistic & not just plain white or black, add a bit of colour to them.
Was also a fan of the boot editor, meant so many different styles of boots could be made up & ensure that there is plenty of space to save them on, this would mean that player individuality could be achieved a lot more easily.
As Amateur said about the commentators need to be overhauled & if it was possible to have them give a preview of the game beforehand then i feel it would at to the atmosphere of the match & even if it meant just mentioning the odd player in the preview then i think that would make each match feel different.
But i like the comments that the other guys have made & hope that Konami are listening to us.
I remember in Pes 5, when you used to play with classic teams all the players used to wear those small shorts. It kinda makes it feel as if your actually watching a classic game from the 80s and 90s. So I would like to see the small shorts back.
:lol: No homo, but actually seeing the shorter shorts would be nice. Its kinda silly seeing someone who had enormous thighs (Muller, Linekar) in long shorts. Its like in the basketball games today, the legends wear the baggy uniforms they wear today.
CryingGallas
10-04-2009, 15:57
Yeh more preset features, that would allow the user to change for themselves would be really good! More weather features.
One thing that would be great is in game animations. Such as (FOR EXAMPLE):
1. When Jonny Evans (Man Utd) is walking on the pitch he sometimes has his arms on his hips.
2. Players showing anger at a poor pass (ROONEY).
It doesn't have to be these exact players, but something like that, would make it sooo good, they introduced players putting their arms up to call for a ball and players looking up to cross or shoot, they should add more!!
I only want the gameplay back ! ! !
Amen to that.
Foxhound
10-04-2009, 17:13
Third kits, and the ability to have kits combination.
Luis_Garcia
10-04-2009, 19:10
Untucked shirts & Boot Editing
* The ability to import logo's and kit designs using a USB Memory stick on the XBOX360.
*Stadium Creater/Editor.
*Bundesliga
*More Classic players/teams.
* A "Match Preview/Review.
By this i mean say before a game in ML you would have a Preview of the game. Example:
Barcelona vs Real Madrid
The El Classico. Real Madrid travel to the Nou Camp in hot form with a 12 game unbeaten run and 7 points clear of Barcelona at the top. The manager of Real Madrid expects a close and feirce game. Barcelona go into this game in need of a win to keep their title hopes alive. After failing to reach the Semi-Finals of the Champions League last week the fans are hopfull of getting 3 points. Raul is in great goal scoring form for Real Madrid with 6 goals in 3 game and looks to extend his tally. Also, Eto'o, the leading scorer in La Liga, looks to extend his tally from 27 goals today."
Barcelona 3-2 Real Madrid
"Barcelona came from 2 goals behind to score 3 second half goals to keep thier title hopes alive. Real Madrid took the lead on 5 minutes when Van Nistelrooy pounced on an error from Milito, the lead was then doubled 10 minutes later when Robben linked up well with Gago and placed the ball past Valdes. Barcelona scored on the 53rd minute mark when Henry cut in from the left and unleased a feirce shot to beat Casilias. Messi then equalized 15 minutes later when he linked well with Eto'o and dinked the ball over the on coming Casilias. Barcelona then scorer a last minute winner when Xavi placed the ball for Eto'o to score his 28th goal of the season.
Things like that would make me happy.
that also has my vote.
Nooodles
10-04-2009, 23:05
The things i'd like to see added / amended to PES 2010 is:
- Make Right analogue the skill stick again. Many occassions of done tour de france by accident.
- Make AI Harder / Smarter (i think they announced they are doing this)
- Leave Full edit mode in
- More in depth Master League and multiplayer if possible
- In BAL, if you chose SS, don't get stuck as DMF / CMF most games
- In Edit mode, allow custom leagues and multiple divisions. With ENOUGH slots to create players / teams etc. Would be nice to have 4 divisions with 2 leagues in all, or worse, 2 divisions in the league your playing.
- Allow cups in leagues during 2 player games.
- Make cups K/O instead of home/away leg.
--- Leave the "pace" of the game the same. PES 2009 is great for me, PES 2008 was way to fast and the new lob ball in 2009 is perfect.
My thoughts.
the ability to defend well in multiplayer matches or against the ai against fast players by positioning my defender well to close him down .
someone who uses a fast player must not just have the ability to blow by you without doing something special, that said the special dribbling moves must mean i must press more then just one button they must require skill and timing and not just a trick stick and even if the timing was right if i as a defender can read what u are about to do i must be able to do something about it if i act fast enough.
this will make one on one battles against other people and even the computer challenging and worth it.
and executing dribbling moves must mean u will slow down a bit and some players much more than others because only a few players can execute accurate dribbles at high speed ( C. RONALDO ) most players yes and even MESSY slows down to execute cutting dribbles and as soon as the ball is past his opponent explodes with a bursting speed.
i think you must feel that you've done something when you dribble past an opponent especially when it was a good defender and that isn't their at the moment also you must feel great when u defended a great dribbler well.
just like PES games have captured sliding one past the keeper better than any football game they should try and capture the satisfaction of one on one battles whether it's against the computer or against a human opponent.
i wanna see,
*shorter shorts not these basketball short they put in 2009
*grass a little bit higher
*press and camera men around the pitch
*better replays from behind the goal
*stadium staff with their yellow orange jackets
*more stadiums
*being able to swap between home and away kits, a third kit for teams too
*more balls
*match details at half time and at the end of the match
*online multiplayer leagues
*broader commentary more lines for mark lawrenson
*snapshots around the stadium at all times specially at a goal and goal celebrations and when coming out of the pitch
*people making the wave wouldnt be able to see it just being there would be good
*crowd celebrating the goals not just capturing the players celebration
*water bottles and a towel by the goal and on the net
*being able to change the style of the grass cut
those are just some of them
Third kits, and the ability to have kits combination.
That kit idea is exactly what I was going to post, and, the Totti style low socks aswell. I think even a long sleeve shirt with the option of rolled up sleeves would ne nice to have aswell, or even that thing that players do now, wearing them Under Armour tops under the jersey, like Berbatov when he pulls it down over his hands.
Gameplay on the new Pro will be just the same I fear, so aslong as they get it sorted online and change what Ive said, I can live with it.
PS: You should be allowed to change which foot takes a corner/free kick.
PPS: When sliding on a rain soaked pitch, it would be nice to see the dirt fly and get on the players kit and you should have to compensate for the said weather aswell when passing.
ML Newcomers have different boots and maybe added bracelets and short/sock size alterations to make some of them more unique instead of them looking all the same apart from height and head.
Gameplay is the be all and end all but its the little touches that make games feel like the real deal:
* untucked shirts, lower socks ect
* Managers and subs on touchline
* Different goal nets for different stadiums (a must)
* Individual crowd atmosphere (songs ect)
* Coin toss (as ISS did)
* Continuous play so you can take quick free kicks/corners/throw ins. How all players are back in position when play resumes is unrealistic.
* An onscreen newspaper or tv report after game explaining highlights and other match results (this could replace highlights which i mainly bypass)
* a zoomable camera on side and from behind to relace all other angles which are mainly redundent.
* Better celebrations after trophy wins.
* Stats and more stats!!
* Managers and subs on touchline
Realistic managers would be nice, maybe even their names appear when the balls out of play/when player is down on the pitch.
TURF:
Different types of turf that actually make a difference in game play:
Such as:
Artificial Turf: Ball moves much faster. Good for players who like fast running game.
Muddy: Ball moves slow. Good for short passing players.
Rainy: Unpredictable ball movments as it hits water spots, speed changes.
Snowy: Slippery, possible for players to lose balance!
These already existed in a "older" top selling game, kick off. The field made a huge difference, and playing home did you give a real advantage.
It would be nice if you can upload turf textures to field, for custmization purposes.
Camera: Allow full custmization of camera zoom and angle.
Basically, give players more power to custmize the game which will make up for lack of licenses.
zeemeister
11-04-2009, 21:33
I have wanted the vibration function since PES1. FIFA have implemented it on shots that hit the post but it can be so much more. I mean how cool would it be to feel a crunching tackle and knowing your player is not getting up again or feeling your heart beat as you line up a penalty or be dead calm when you have good mentality or feeling the thud as you hammer a 30 yard screamer. There are just so many ways to implement it and would add that much more atmosphere.
Mullet Taylor
11-04-2009, 22:02
players spitting every now and again :D
I think Konami should make better use of the UEFA Champions League and UEFA Cup.
Maybe have realistic commentaries that can talk a bit about the Champions League history, about the current Title holders, about who are the best players of the Tournament, etc, etc..
Commentaries like:
"Leo Messi scored 2 goals in the 1st game, Bayern Munich allowed him too much space.. they need to close him down earlier"
"Villarreal has made it to the Champions League Final for the 1st time in their history"
"Barcelona are favorites.. but haven't been at their best for the last couple of games"
Commentaries like that will make the Gameplay feel that bit more realistic.
A Quarter-Final or Semi-Final Champions League Match is always important.. the Commentators should reflect that, maybe comment more on the importance of the match, and on the build up to the match.
Just making better use of that Champions League License, better and more realistic commentaries would make it feel more important than the average League Game.
I would like to feel a clear difference between Domestic League Games and Champions League Games. The Champions League must feel more important, and therefore the Commentaries must also be more dramatic.
The Eristic
12-04-2009, 09:12
I want to arrange players in the wall and adjust its angle, not just add/subtract players. I'm sick of my 6'5"-6'7" players always being stuck on the end of the wall that is completely out of the way of the free kick's potential flight paths.
I would love to see 5 a side indoor football being implemented in pes 2010 like in the old "fifa 98 road to the world cup" game on ps1
if the gameplay issues are sorted in the next pes I think indoor football would really suit the pes engine. It would be quality playing leagues and cup events in 5 a side.
Imagine playing 5 a side with a team- Casillas, Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, Henry (given his champions league form)
I would love to see 5 a side indoor football being implemented in pes 2010 like in the old "fifa 98 road to the world cup" game on ps1
if the gameplay issues are sorted in the next pes I think indoor football would really suit the pes engine. It would be quality playing leagues and cup events in 5 a side.
Imagine playing 5 a side with a team- Casillas, Ronaldo, Messi, Kaka, Henry (given his champions league form)
PESFan92
12-04-2009, 17:12
For ML:
Say its the last game of the season and the title or fight for relegation depended on results.
During the game a little box in the corner should appear showing an update for that specific game(s) and then the fans cheering or something because they know the score. Then the commentator saying something like
"Well if it all stays like this the title will go to [teams name]".
If a vital goal is scorerd in the last minute of the game such as the winner of a cup final or a goal to win the title or a goal to keep a team up, before the replay theres a little cut-scene of the bench going crazy and then a shot of the fans going crazy and cheering, players doing much better celebrations after the goal is scored.
Just a couple I thought of.
Luis_Garcia
12-04-2009, 17:43
Those are good points PESFan. It is true that there should be more emotion in the game, like when you score a last gasp winner, the crowd should go mental, and more so the players should go crazy (including goalkeeper), I mean if they even slightly matched my reaction at home it would be good ;) haha.
Also like this, there should be a better crowd reaction to things, like booing players who foul on the other team, cheering every pass if your far in front etc etc.
I want to arrange players in the wall and adjust its angle, not just add/subtract players. I'm sick of my 6'5"-6'7" players always being stuck on the end of the wall that is completely out of the way of the free kick's potential flight paths.
I had not thought of that before, a nice detail, it could add a nice touch of realism. Why have Giovinco and Del Piero in the wall? When you could have bigger and taller players..
Also..
Someone mentioned something about having new options for Corner Kicks, like choosing between Left or Right Foot.
It gets a bit annoying when you have an individual who is equally accurate with Both Feet, but you can only take the CK with his Right Foot.
Dunno1982
13-04-2009, 13:53
I would like to see injuries make more of a difference to matches & especially in Master League mode, the injuries should be more detailed & would maybe like to see players pull up with things like pulling a hamstring for example & when the physios are on treating them then the player can still walk/hobble off the park.
And when said player is receiving treatment on the sidelines then you should be able to still see the physios treating the player instead of the player just sat on his arse & by a miracle he's healed & trots back onto the park.
The length of time players are out for aswell should be looked at, in my history of master league my squads have very rarely suffered a long injury, but things like pulled hamstrings can mean players are out for 3 weeks which means that you should be looking at your squad & playing fringe players or using different formations to suit the rest of the squad.
Dunno1982
13-04-2009, 13:54
I also like the comment about the walls defending freekicks, something which has never crossed my mind before.
MysteryMan
13-04-2009, 13:59
I would like to see injuries make more of a difference to matches & especially in Master League mode, the injuries should be more detailed & would maybe like to see players pull up with things like pulling a hamstring for example & when the physios are on treating them then the player can still walk/hobble off the park.
And when said player is receiving treatment on the sidelines then you should be able to still see the physios treating the player instead of the player just sat on his arse & by a miracle he's healed & trots back onto the park.
The length of time players are out for aswell should be looked at, in my history of master league my squads have very rarely suffered a long injury, but things like pulled hamstrings can mean players are out for 3 weeks which means that you should be looking at your squad & playing fringe players or using different formations to suit the rest of the squad.
Good points about injury's , also I would like to state that when you play with your team it seems to me that a player can get injured like 4 or 5 times a season which is very unrealistic, the other unrealistic thing is he gets injured for 1 week or tops 2 weeks...
It should be changed that injury to a player would not happen very often and im speaking about 1 player out of 11 now , there would be quite a good chance that a player will not get injured 1 season maybe even 2 if he is lucky but if he would get injured it could be a long injury aswell , maybe 3 weeks , 6 weeks maybe even 10.
1. mix and match kits was great in pes 5 bring it back and also u should have the option to have like real teams have kits like manutd can have red shirt black shorts and black socks or whit shorts white socks and have untucted shirts aswell why take it out
2.more stadiums there needs to be more even if thay have a fake name still put them in like tradbrick staduim(old Trafford) red caudraon(anfield) magpie park (St james park)
3. bring more stuff back in to editing like put a player with a beard if he grew one in rel life.
. sock height adds to the individualism
. Ankle tape height size and even ankle socks like Ronaldo torres or like adebayor
.more boots bring back the reeboks have more nike with colours
4.more cut secens i think like master league there should be like a story mode like u see inside the stadium subs warming up celbrations there is loads in that department
5.injuries is a must there needs to be proper ones with a desription of what it is and say long term injuries season ones and see the docter person take them off the pitch and see to them also has anyone ever had a RED injury in pes 2009 cause i never did once
6. weather conditions there needs to be something in this like snow in the winter and making it have affect rain with puddles and fog and acually play champions league games at night and bring back that cold weather affect where u see the breath come out of players mouth when it was cold
5. thats really all i can think of aprt from the mose important thing game play
Dunno1982
14-04-2009, 10:31
I'd also like the freekick takers to be able to move as soon as they've struck the ball, i hate this kind of frozen state they go into for a few seconds meaning that if it's hit into the wall then the taker still can't collect the rebound.
Also just a small subtle detail, i'd like to see the referee marching the defensive wall back the full 10 yards, maybe once in a while a wall might line up a bit too close & the ref will spot it & move it back, or maybe a wall might be too close but the ref might miss it meaning that perhaps the taker will need a different approach & maybe clip ine into the box instead of having a 30 yard shot at goal - just a small detail which would perhaps add a touch more realism to a match.
zanteive
14-04-2009, 12:46
Third kits, and the ability to have kits combination.
i agree 10000000% we need more kits for each team or the ability to mix them. f.ex shirt from home with short from away and bla bla bla.....
i would like to see the white over socks players wear
well i played BAL today and noticed 2 things:
Lobbed through ball came over bounced over the keeper and the keeper tripped me. No penalty plus my player stops moving like after free kicks. By this time a defender cleared it of the line.
AI was through on goal, went past the keeper and tried a lob from about 4 yards out. The ridiculous part was that he missed as well.
Other than that, the team you play as are always a pile of crap(been mentioned many, many times)
well i played BAL today and noticed 2 things:
Lobbed through ball came over bounced over the keeper and the keeper tripped me. No penalty plus my player stops moving like after free kicks. By this time a defender cleared it of the line.
AI was through on goal, went past the keeper and tried a lob from about 4 yards out. The ridiculous part was that he missed as well.
Other than that, the team you play as are always a pile of crap(been mentioned many, many times)
I noticed a thing to in BAL. I tried a match without holding the sprint button. Then i noticed that he got tired the same fast way as when you're holding the sprint button the whole match. Bad stuff :(:(
Sorry for my english!!
I noticed a thing to in BAL. I tried a match without holding the sprint button. Then i noticed that he got tired the same fast way as when you're holding the sprint button the whole match. Bad stuff :(:(
Sorry for my english!!
Another one:
Change training matches to vary with drills. it gets boring
Off topic Alolo - you like the naruto series?
Master12
15-04-2009, 01:14
this one should be good !!
Another one:
Change training matches to vary with drills. it gets boring
Off topic Alolo - you like the naruto series?
Yes. The best serie ever. Do you watch it? :):)
Just played a few games and the dive option is shit. Just useless, whats the point if the chances of success are like 15-20%? Or they could give special players the ability to dive. I.e Drogba.
Yes. The best serie ever. Do you watch it? :):)
yes in fact i do and agree with, how else would i reognise that it was lee in your avatar?
Hey Hey Hey lads! We have an Anime thread! Its active with a few more people aswell. Might make a few friends also.
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=26691
yes in fact i do and agree with, how else would i reognise that it was lee in your avatar?
You maybe guessed? :happy: :happy:
Let's talk in the Anime thread. :cool: :cool:
how about when its raining the crowd have those all in one jackets on
as in pes 09 one ground is oval and has no roof and looks silly when its pissing down and not a single person has a proper coat nor umbrella
muzza798
16-04-2009, 00:39
For ML:
Say its the last game of the season and the title or fight for relegation depended on results.
During the game a little box in the corner should appear showing an update for that specific game(s) and then the fans cheering or something because they know the score. Then the commentator saying something like
"Well if it all stays like this the title will go to [teams name]".
If a vital goal is scorerd in the last minute of the game such as the winner of a cup final or a goal to win the title or a goal to keep a team up, before the replay theres a little cut-scene of the bench going crazy and then a shot of the fans going crazy and cheering, players doing much better celebrations after the goal is scored.
Just a couple I thought of.
Definetly ive been thinking of that 1 since pes 4. Must be in surely. Its such a good idea.
Dunno1982
16-04-2009, 08:18
how about when its raining the crowd have those all in one jackets on
as in pes 09 one ground is oval and has no roof and looks silly when its pissing down and not a single person has a proper coat nor umbrella
Do you not just mean Konami having Steve McLaren in the game then???
except for the highlights after the game it would be very cool to see the play of the game.
that play of the game wouldn't always have to mean a goal it could even be a saved shot by a goalkeeper or a great pass.
I want more stadiums. And I don't care how small, or shit, they look. I like that on FIFA you have stadiums like Old Trafford, The Emirates etc., and then there's still a selection of smaller, generic ones to use.
Playing an FA Cup tie with a big side against a League 2 team in a tiny, almost park-like stadium is awesome.
Blade1889
16-04-2009, 13:41
I'd like:
Different goal nets at different grounds
Far more stadiums
Better snow and weather effects
Muddied kits when it's raining
Penalty effects - If a player has a poor record or it's a last min penalty make the controller vibrate as if he's nervous and make it harder to score.
Better goal celebrations and trophy celebrations
Far Far Far louder cheer when you score!!! And make the crowd look more realistic
MysteryMan
16-04-2009, 17:39
I'd like:
Different goal nets at different grounds
Far more stadiums
Better snow and weather effects
Muddied kits when it's raining
Penalty effects - If a player has a poor record or it's a last min penalty make the controller vibrate as if he's nervous and make it harder to score.
Better goal celebrations and trophy celebrations
Far Far Far louder cheer when you score!!! And make the crowd look more realistic
Thats some nice points
Here il add some more to them
- No black screen in matches where it just skips forward , instead make it like your watching a game on TV , if you get a corner show people in the box wrestling etc... show player going towards the corner and setting the ball then taking few steps back etc.... Do everything like this in every ocasion , maybe when you get a free kick you have a option to immediatly press a button that would make the 2nd player go up to shot the ball no need to stop the game and choose from menu eh?
- Far more boots ,... shirt styles like tucked untucked etc.. neck warmer put it back please...
- Much more depth in commentary , make him say things regarding facts like if you play brasil - italy he should talk about the history and say this is a classic game , brasil 5 times world cup winner vs .... blabla ... and say other facts like if the match is important .... how many points the teams got and what place they are at in the league for example.... in CL knockout let them say exactly what the score in previus match was and whats needed for each team to win .... if for example its 1-1 and 1-1 make him say like if it stays like this we are going to extra time , then lets say 5 minutes till end he would say : Only 5 minutes left , are we going to extra time?
If some team is playing very well for a few minutes he could say : Team XXX is on fire they are playing incredible in the past minutes , if team XXX2 doesn't do anything soon we could see a goal soon... There are like THOUSANDS of these type of commentary that would make the game have much much more depth and be very realistic... seriously
- With far louder crowd when a team scores also better crowd cheering , if for example the home team scores the crowd explodes and stands up raises hands etc...
If away team scores they aren't that happy except a few..
Sometimes make the crowd boo the away team like they do sometimes but not alot , it would be more like random... also make the crowd sing similar things as real crowd like Liverpool crowd could sing you will never walk alone if liverpool is doing good etc...
- Make players more unique , please for GOD SAKES MESSI NEVER DOES STEP OVERS , change the dribble styles and make them have more depth in the fact that a different dribble style has different player style of play , so if Messi has a unique dribble style he never does step overs but goes on more like a conventional dribble and body feints while Ronaldo has a dribble style where he does alot of flicks , tricks , neat passes etc..... Riquelme with his unique style of sole of the foot etc... make at least 10 unique player styles of dribbling and play and passing and such...
- Make upgrade to player stats and besides the stats make some more such as weak foot accuracy , conditioning etc... and name them passing , shooting outside the box , dribbling etc.... and 1-10 , the more its raised the more the player prefers to do that, for example you can make someone like messi have 7 maybe 8 dribble which means he prefers when he gets the ball to go on a run inside the box , yet he has a high passing preference aswell so if he is marked well he will pass alot aswell its all depending on whats happening yet still he would prefer to do things like he does in real life...
For example another player like Ronaldo will prefer to shot from distance more so .... and so on so on so on....
Xavi will prefer to pass the ball alot and such...
I could go on but im bored of writing.
short term stamina so you can't sprint forever
FIORE_FAN
17-04-2009, 14:08
One of my friends and I really miss being able to play co-up online during a season (Gears of War-ish). Let's say I started a season/tournament of the English League - then I could take it online, and have my friend (just one - that's enough) to join my side, so we would be playing 2 vs the cpu - just as you would have done alone, had you started a season.
That feature alone would have my friend and I buying the game on release, no matter how bad the reviews!!!
forestfan80
17-04-2009, 20:59
give penalties for handballs
*Really good Classic Teams (no fucking Viola instead of Garrincha for example)
*More hidden players
*More stats
*Master league completely remade
I like your points but aren't there already quite a few stats in the game? Oh you dont mean player stats but game stats.
The classic player one is a very good point. I'm sick of them putting in average players for the national teams ahead of great players. Don't get me started on Konami removing some of the teams best players (Scirea, Rummenigge, Rivelino, Bobby charlton, Tardelli) in the last game.
Another point people have mentioned is the weather effects. I remember reading a preview of PES2009 and the guy mentioning there are weather effects in the game that effect the ball movement. I was excited and then very disappointed to find that this wasn't the case. The rain does have a slight effect on the gameplay but I can't quite put my finger on it. Anyway the inclusion of this sort of feature will do wonders for the game i feel. It wouldnt have to be a dramatic mud bath but just so that the rain gives the ball that little more bit of pace and sliding is longer.
This aspect of the game was featured in a This Is Football game. Might have been 2004. The gameplay wasn't great but my word, last ditch slide tackles in the rain were
The Eristic
18-04-2009, 09:18
Oooh, "Hidden" players separate from "Classic" players. Generally, I'd rather not have Classics in my MLs, but I certainly want all the unlockable currently active players who happen to not be on a licensed team in the game.
Oooh, "Hidden" players separate from "Classic" players. Generally, I'd rather not have Classics in my MLs, but I certainly want all the unlockable currently active players who happen to not be on a licensed team in the game.
Right now theres 6 pages and theres a bit of a mix current players mixed in with classic players. Seperate them out into 2 different categories would be handy
give penalties for handballs
Thats a tough one. While I'll like it to be included, It would have to be 100% spot on, anything else and I would just get frustrated at the decisions. I think that was in PES3 but it was very hit and miss.
A couple of other factors that I want changing/editing:
First: Remove the computer interfering with your slide tackles that result in red cards. If this is Teamvision in motion then lord help us, its disastrous. I'm sick of having my whole gameplan collapse when the CPU gets one of my players sent off
Second: Re-introduce the option to select your referee in exhibition mode. Quite frankly I hate the lottery of having a random ref doing the games. Me and my mates are very slide happy (hard but fair :P) and the amount of times we get booked for great tackles (you know the one where the player hooks his leg round to get the ball) is unfair. Sometimes the ref lets play run on and then other times with the exact same slide animation he gives a yellow card. A bit annoying in my eyes
indeed unlike in fifa where they do blow up for handballs
Equipped with the champions league license, it would be good to see the addition of classic champions league final matches with classic teams. e.g. Would love the ability to play with the 99 Man Utd team against Byern Munich, or the 2005 final Liverpool vs Ac Milan.
*Make ur coach like u make ur BAL player. I'm not a fat old looking doofus... Are you?
*More modification to players such as shirts, socks and wristbands.
*Keepers with higher AI... 2009 has the worst goalies ever!
*Able to change hairstyles during ML.
*Bundesliga and Superliga.
*"Go for the goal" back in the music library ;-).
CDDRodrigo
19-04-2009, 14:03
*"Go for the goal" back in the music library ;-).
Brilliant. I would like "Dream Team" too. :w00t
muzza798
19-04-2009, 14:20
-To have "You'll never walk alone" fully licensed for LFC.
-Real nets ffs
-Variation in shooting a la PES 6
Having proper team chants for all big teams...
Manager animations on the sideline
Subs warming up before they come on
Get yellow carded if your goal celebration is taking off your shirt
Indirect frees inside the box
National anthems before international games.
Accidental double post.
those also have my vote.
Having proper team chants for all big teams...
Manager animations on the sideline
Subs warming up before they come on
Get yellow carded if your goal celebration is taking off your shirt
Indirect frees inside the box
National anthems before international games.
i meant those also have my vote
muzza798
19-04-2009, 14:49
Get yellow carded if your goal celebration is taking off your shirt
Would love to do that. It would be even better if when you rotate the right analog stick he waves it around in a circular motion.
great animations for struggles during positioning for headers or when two players are trying to reach the ball.
uh ??? why was i booked ?
For double posting. And now you've done it again. Read the rules before you post next time. :)
muzza798
19-04-2009, 14:59
red card
armandoiskin
20-04-2009, 00:31
More control in BAL ie. if youre the teams captain you can choose which players to buy for your club.DLC in the form of classic players likeness and commentary name.Basically take the top 100 voted greatest players in history,and put each in the ps store XBL or some form of konami shop and charge say 99 pence or cent per player.Overhall the shooting,its terrible.More stadiums.Different crowd reactions for different countries,ie La liga V the England League.If youre playing away say in Turkey for instance in a Champions league or Uaefa cup match the crowd should be on your back and boo every decision that goes against the home team.More skills like fifa,different nets,i like the baggy ones but compare the Neu Camp to the Olympic stadium Rome ,some are square,some are not.OH and there are not that many diving headers in any game of football.
CDDRodrigo
20-04-2009, 01:27
More control in BAL ie. if youre the teams captain you can choose which players to buy for your club.
So you wanted to be Raúl? :lol:
More control in BAL ie. if youre the teams captain you can choose which players to buy for your club.
Jajajaj. This should never be allowed, no offense, but I don’t understand how this would be beneficial to a club.
armandoiskin
20-04-2009, 17:39
When i play BAL i select low transfer frequency so in most cases alot of the players around you get old and become less dependable,and the club will not sign anyone.So the option to scout for upcoming young players would be good.The Raul comment was funny.
I don’t think that is something a captain should do. That is the manager’s job.
In some cases, a captain of a team may have some input in who is brought into the club, its probably known as 'having an influence'.
You are right that is something that is more common than one would think, but in my opinion that is not necessarily helpful to the club. I do believe that in most cases it is actually a negative practice.
Yeah well, actually doing it and being a good thing is a different matter. Sometimes its a good thing, sometimes it isnt. Id say most of the times, its bad.
But back ontopic, whats the point in putting this into BAL? Might aswell play ML and assign one player to yourself for the entire campaign.
PESFan92
20-04-2009, 20:25
I thought of these as i was playing ML:
1) Say before a match on ITV or BBC or Skysports or anywhere you have the pundits talking and discussing about certain things. What would really be great is if they done something like this on ML. Like before games there would be some pundits talking about the game and pointing out key players. Then say Half Time they would do Half Time Analysis. Then Full Time they would do "Full Time Analysis. Or at least have Options to turn them On or Off in the Settings.
2) Then after this or something it cuts to your team doing some pre-match training/warming up and say in the top corner theres like a box saying
"Time Left Before Kick-off"
At the start of training/warming up you get the Stadium almost empty but the away supporters are all at the away end and chanting and that. Then as the kick-off gets nearer the stadium becomes more full. Depending on how well your teams doing.
3) You can tell the difference between the Away Supporters and Home Supporters. Like If the away team are winning then they wil be louder than the Home Team or if the Home team are winning then they will be louder than the Away Supporters etc. If the Away Team score a goal the cheer will be quieter than the cheer would be for a Home goal
4) When you import chants there should be menu's like:
"Teams coming out"
Import Chant
"5-20 Minutes"
Import Chant
"20-45 Minutes"
Import Chant
"Half Time"
Import Chant
"45 - 60 Minutes"
Import Chant
"60 - 75 Minutes"
IMport Chant
"75-90 Minutes"
Import Chant
"Full Time"
Import Chant
Then sub menu's like:
"When a goal is scored"
E.G In the England League when they score they chant "Yesss" In the Spanish League they chant something like "GOALLLLLL" or "OHHHHHHHH"
"After a dirty foul or poor decision"
Comments are welcome.
muzza798
20-04-2009, 23:36
I thought of these as i was playing ML:
1) Say before a match on ITV or BBC or Skysports or anywhere you have the pundits talking and discussing about certain things. What would really be great is if they done something like this on ML. Like before games there would be some pundits talking about the game and pointing out key players. Then say Half Time they would do Half Time Analysis. Then Full Time they would do "Full Time Analysis. Or at least have Options to turn them On or Off in the Settings.
2) Then after this or something it cuts to your team doing some pre-match training/warming up and say in the top corner theres like a box saying
"Time Left Before Kick-off"
At the start of training/warming up you get the Stadium almost empty but the away supporters are all at the away end and chanting and that. Then as the kick-off gets nearer the stadium becomes more full. Depending on how well your teams doing.
3) You can tell the difference between the Away Supporters and Home Supporters. Like If the away team are winning then they wil be louder than the Home Team or if the Home team are winning then they will be louder than the Away Supporters etc. If the Away Team score a goal the cheer will be quieter than the cheer would be for a Home goal
I like the datail there but it would be difficult to nail down the comentary thing with the analyisis, though they did say they have better comentary this year. If they royaly fuck up this year im am gonna be so pissed off. The way i see it atm is that its going to be great.
The blending of (hopefully) incredible gameplay mixed with ML and BAL not to mention Online will be fucking imense. Especially BAL. The concept of BAL in PES is great compared with EA's shambolic Be a Pro as in PES your simply a player with no control over anything which makes you feel like your just another player whch really imerses you into the mode. The thing that let it down was the AI. This year with gameplay similar to PES's of old (in terms of quality) and addition to the mode we should expect to be treated to a great mode and a great game.
StringerBell
20-04-2009, 23:58
Body hair and perspiration ;)
borrissey
29-04-2009, 14:52
Show the players and manager walking down the tunnel at half time, then show the players coming back out of the tunnel for the second half. Both to a big roar from the home fans.
Have more goal celebrations, more late goal, important goal celebrations, rival goal celebrations. Such as a late winner running upto hugging the home fans. Taking off your shirt then getting booked. Running upto the bench and celebrating.
After a replay of a shot, chance show a brief animation of the manager, players fans etc, reactions.
Every match show the line ups for both sides and formations before kick off.
Commentators, two with the game then two you can pay for on download. On the game because pes has the licence for the Champions league have the real life commentators for it either Clive Tyldesley, Jon Champion, Peter Drury, David Pleat, Jim beglin.
http://s58.radikal.ru/i160/0810/f0/0a75c9bb804c.jpg
Honestly, how f*cking hard is it to put in longer ankle tape?!
http://i.bnet.com/blogs/cristiano_ronaldo_football_her o.jpg
A third option for sleeve length. Ronaldo's sleeves are long but he rolls them up.
Oh, three kits per team, alternating shirts, shorts and socks, choosing your GK kit and under armour.
muzza798
30-04-2009, 01:29
Nets,nets,nets,nets,nets,nets, nets,nets and fucking nets.
McCarthy_BAL
30-04-2009, 10:33
I just made a thread for this but might aswell post it here as its a subtle thing i would like changed.
Its Nothing Major but, in BAL when you win a trophy or a big match and things like that, at the end of the games theres like a longer ending to the game, ie. all players gathering etc or when you win a trophy the ceremony and all that, but if you play a major part in the game and get subbed off, your no where to be seen. no subs come out, just the eleven playing.
I just think it would be better to show all subs at the end of games and at ceremonies when winning a trophy.
Again Nothing Major but would think it would look better so if that can be suggested for 2010 i would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Dunno1982
30-04-2009, 10:56
I just made a thread for this but might aswell post it here as its a subtle thing i would like changed.
Its Nothing Major but, in BAL when you win a trophy or a big match and things like that, at the end of the games theres like a longer ending to the game, ie. all players gathering etc or when you win a trophy the ceremony and all that, but if you play a major part in the game and get subbed off, your no where to be seen. no subs come out, just the eleven playing.
I just think it would be better to show all subs at the end of games and at ceremonies when winning a trophy.
Again Nothing Major but would think it would look better so if that can be suggested for 2010 i would be much appreciated.
Thanks
I have something along the lines of the ceremonies, i think in each part of the game whether it is Master League, BAL, or just a simple league or cup campaign i think it would be better if there was an option to name a club captain as it has sometimes happened to me when my captain is completed fooked for a final but has played in most games or has to be subbed off in the final & then that player is unable to go up & lift the trophy in the cut scenes so the ability/option to nominate a club captain would avoid that.
Can a mod put this in the "Official Konami PES Feedback Zone."
- Definately need more stadiums and different nets.
- Crowd noise really needs to be increased especially when an important goal is scored, makes the atmosphere so much better!
CryingGallas
27-06-2009, 01:54
Oh man I agree with you Amatuer, hair moving, whilst playing the game would be absolutely amazing!
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