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Game play:
Speed is too fast. Speed is too much of a factor on the game. 360 degree movements? 16 – way movement. Better passing. Shooting meter fills up too quickly. Return of home and away in exhibition matches. Faster reaction time when loosing the ball to an opponent. Goalkeepers should distribute the ball faster. Better free kicks. Better ball physics. 3 free kick takers lining up. Head Injuries. Variation in injuries. Stop automatic sliding. More movement of the ball. Manual passing like in FIFA09. Better finesse shooting button. Simulate injuries. More variation in computer selected teams when attacking and more challenging for human player to work an opening. How about 3 game speeds to choose from? Arcade, Normal & Simulation. Arcade is faster than normal & simluation is slower.
Referees:
Need to make bad calls. Interact more (ball being able to hit them). Opposition gets more cards.
Artificial Inteligence:
AI needs to stop cheating. Excessive AI. Less random momentum shifts. Higher level of difficulty.
Sounds/Audio:
Possibility to insert created team’s names.More slots for chants. Cut off the sound when kicking the ball. Return of after match player comments. Licensed music. National anthems. Fans at home should be louder. User as commentator. Crowd chants should be a little longer. ESPN (latinamerica) commentators, or some argentinian, not mexicans please.
Animations:
Cameramen, police, substitutes. Better tackling animations. Controllable goal celebrations. Cut scenes from players/coaches during negotiations. Untucked shirts. Option to turn off cut scenes and replays. No sandbags behind goals. Goalkeeper’s gloves should be official ones.
Tactics:
Possibility to customize tactics. Grid reference on players positions on the formations. Players played out of position should detract teamwork.
Licenses:
More licenses. Bundesliga, Russian League. Scottish League, MLS, Mexican, Argentinean, Brazil, Chile and Columbian leagues. More European “minor” teams. More national teams from Africa and the Americas. Australian League, Second division leagues. More national teams from Asia. New Zealand. Seria A and La Liga. Portugal league. Greek superleague
Online:
Community mode for customizable leagues. Use of Master League team at online matches. Too slow. Co-up online. Save the latest score before disconnection together with the time of disconnection and post it.
A pre-match option to disable all replays during match. A new ranking system, based on the ELO rating. A match option where both players get a random team with random daily forms (arrows), together with a seperate ranking list solely based on the results of these random matches. Network Multiplayers.
Editing:
More options. Editing Stadiums. Better kit editing. Use of preset player’s faces/hair. Option to switch between home or away shorts, shirts and socks. 3 to 4 kits per team. More slots to create teams. Sock lengths and shorter shorts. More stadiums. Create your manager. Different sized pitches.
Become a Legend:
Possibility to various training exercises. More control over contract negotiations, loans. Being able to request to be taken off a game. Equalize AI for both teams. Improve ranking system. Better AI for teammates. Challenge training
Trophy list:
What type of trophies, are they achievable?
Camera:
Zoom able for side and vertical views.
Players:
Differentiate between hidden and classic players. Individual expressions for some players. Add a first touch attribute. Conditional arrows aren't needed anymore. Special abilities also are too general.
Master League:
Better transfers. Being able to use the other league B section. Manager mode. More difficulty levels. Real currency. Bigger player database. Include Champions League an European League. Include the possibility for randomized database.
Weather:
Will weather play a major role? Will it change during matches? Snow.
Competitions:
World Cup Qualifiers mode. U-17, U-20, U-23, Olympics, Women. Europe’s Best Vs. Rest of the World. Random selection matches. Scenario matches. Possibility to play against another player on every opposition match. Home teams should have an advantage. Results of other games as popups during the game. 5-A-Side
Others:
Same release dates.
If your idea is not here, please let me know so that it can be included. I tried to get most of them, but I might have missed yours. Please state which section it should be in (i.e. Animation, Game play). Also try to make it no more than one sentence long.
Nice Trevi, it'd be cool if you could keep updating this and then possibly make it a sticky.
In all honesty, today was a very slow day at the office, so it might be difficult for me to keep updating it. But I would make it a lot easier for me if any idea not covered in the first post gets posted here so that I can update the first post with it.
Nice summary Trevi
Add the Greek superleague under the Licenses if you can as my contribution.
you know how in 08 it was body balance and in 09 it was about speed(as u said), dont overpower one, make them balanced.
ADD a first touch attribute so players like cesc are more effective because they get more time to pass because of their brilliant first touch
EDIT: also make the AI harder without cheating
achieved by R.E.A.L AI
(Record, Evaluate, Adapt and Learn)
ok i got that from fight night round 4 but the principles are the same just different sport
http://blog.fightnight.easports.com/archive/2009/06/16/r-e-a-l-ai-in-fight-night-round-4.aspx
anotherstani
23-06-2009, 21:46
Long time player, first time poster.........
How about sorting the crowds out? give the game some atmosphere, get the crowd behind the team and really get the excitement going!!! last minute winner and the crowd goes crazy!! so much the camera shakes!! score a goal away from home and silence the crowd, get one back and the game turns as the crowd gets behind the team. This actually happens in real football so to make the game more realistic this feature should be added.
stop the auto sliding!!! this is such a disappointing feature...... I dont need to say anymore as I know everybody knows what I am talking about.
Im sorry to say this but maybe you should play FIFA and pick up some of the 'little touches' to make the game more attractive!!
Scenarios, bring them back.
injuries - lets see and hear the bone crunching tackles! it happens so lets see it.
but please do something about the crowd and sound fx!!
Stani out.
1. How long have you been playing PES? Since 1996(ISS)
2. What are the aspects you like most about PES? No two goals are the same, unlike FIFA.
3. What are the aspects that you don't like about PES? auto sliding, online play, sometimes I have to physically wrestle with my joypad to get my player to run in the direction I want.
mufcsean
23-06-2009, 22:09
Very good idea putting all this into a list.
Master League:
Better transfers. Being able to use the other league B section. Manager mode. More difficulty levels. Real currency. Bigger player database. Include Champions League an European League.
konami announced today that the ML will include the Champions League and the Europa league
Ralleh007
23-06-2009, 23:03
very good idea putting all this into a list.
Konami announced today that the ml will include the champions league and the europa league
great! :d
FIORE_FAN
24-06-2009, 08:05
Game mode
• A good friend of mine and I really, really reeeeaally miss being able to play a season with our favorite team co-up online!!! (Gears of War'ish). Us playing on the same team against the cpu in a regular season/tournament, just like if we were playing on the same console - just online instead.
• A 5-A-Side online (and offline for that matter) mode, instead of a full 11 vs. 11. Should be played on a smaller pitch - which would encourage every player to play both defensive- and offensively - thus making every player feel like a part of the game during the entire match.
Gameplay
• Make manual passing like in FIFA09 (Aim with the left stick and press the pass-button) - (sorry - but it works sooo much better than the current manual passing with the right stick. Or at least make it optional)
• Please make the "Finesse shooting button" so, that you have to press and hold it before and during your shot. Right now you press shoot and then quickly have to press the finesse shooting button. It's difficult and most of the time, you don't make the accurate finesse shot. A finesse shot is a calculated move and therefore you should be more in control of it!
1. How long have you been playing PES? Since the first ISS Pro Evo on Playstation1
2. What are the aspects you like most about PES? Variety in goal scoring • Individual play-likeness (in animation) (ex. Beckham & Roberto Carlos freekick style, Z. Zidane look like his real counterpart etc.) • The simulation'ish feel to the game • Being able to win with almost every team by editing the right tactic for the team • The old deep edit-mode • And lastly; just the old feel of the game - no two games were the same.
3. What are the aspects that you don't like about PES? Goalkeepers can't pass the ball straight away - they seem to freeze for 3 seconds!?! • The invicible barriers on goalkicks and throw-ins • The arcady feel it has gotten in '08 and '09 (which is the reason why I didn't buy PES for the first time ever in '09!!) • The somewhat bad animations (especially on the goalkeepers!!) • Not being able to fully edit now that PES hasn't got licenses • 8-way movement.
el_renstine
24-06-2009, 08:47
i think the red, orange, green, blue and white arrows aren't needed anymore, they are too random and dont do justice to how well a players playing. id like to see a combination of bars that can relate to how well the player is playing to their potential like "match fitness" and "confidence" that shows how well the player is playing.
the special abilities also are too general, i find that these stats dont differentiate between good and world class players. could we have an option of having a different level of special ability stars
PES has lacked a depth of injuries the only way a player can be injured is through getting tackled, what about training injuries and the likes of michael owen who got hamstring injuries everytime he ran. i feel that "injury proneness" doesnt justify this. i would like to see something along the lines of "tackle endurance" which could be how well a player copes with being kicked about, and then "injury proneness" could be included as a how likely a player is to pick up an injury through other means like owen getting hamstring injuries all the time
requiem7
24-06-2009, 09:12
Not being able to fully edit now that PES hasn't got licenses
You would think they could make it easier to edit the teams on the pc platform.
Football manager has grown as its easier to modify. In fact most games that on the pc that have done really well have catered for people who like to modify.
Ariansadeghi
24-06-2009, 10:14
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I want to see the ref doing mistakes! This would bring more realism to the game.
next pro - please include an option to turn off cut scenes and replays for those that wish to be able to do this. cheers
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1. GAMEPLAY
1.1. PHYSICS (weight of players, players need to interact with each other)
1.2. MANUAL PASSING (on both analogue and triangle and x button)
1.3. BETTER MANUAL SHOOTING (shooting is still to easy to master and aimed at five year olds with consistent play)
1.4. PACE (needs to be slowed down, manual passing would allow you to do this as in real football)
1.5. REFEREES Can be used real ones or at least four of them:
1- super ref, all choices right and never makes mistakes, collina JR.
2- hard ref- calles for every little foul and gives a penalty for a small shirt pulling in the box and goes hard with cards.
3- fluid ref- lets the game flow, doesnt call for every push like you have now, stopes the game only when neccesary and goes easy with cards.
4- realistic ref- a combination of the tough and easy refs, sometimes makes mistakes and sometimes makes good calles, can let offside sometimes.
1.6. CONFLICTS - we would like to see some konflikts during the matches (only once or twice in one season) Punching, headbutts, simulating and so.. It would bring some atmosfere to the most important matches
1.7. GOALKEEPERS - They have to be stronger in safes, there should be less chance to score goals from droped balls.
1.8. STAMINA - Players should collapse on the pitch after being to tired
1.9. MIX AND MATCH KITS - from PES 5
1.10 MATCH LENGHTS ( fully customisible mins )
1.11 GAME OPTIONS ( Golden goal, Silver goal, Penalties etc. )
1.12 PENALTY SYSTEM ( Improve system )
1.13 Momentum Shifts (Momentum Shifts should be affected by more aspects like team chemistry, then just randomized)
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2. GAMEMODES
2.1. MASTER LEAGUE - MORE LEAGUES, MORE DIVISIONS, MORE PLAYERS (FM is right example - no need for license), CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, SUPER CUP
2.2. TRAINING MODE - HOW IT USED TO BE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS
2.3. ONE ON ONE LOADING - (FIFA)
2.4. PES SHOP
2.5. PENALTY MODE
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3. AI
3.1. DIFFICULTY
3.2. SCRIPTING (computer AI without the aid of scripting both for and against you. When you win on pes it feels like the computer has let you win.) SOLLUTION> FOUR OF US GENERALY AGREED, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE LESS EFFECT ON THE MATCH, NONE OF US IS HAPPY HOW IT IS AT THE MOMENT
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4. STATS AND LICENCES
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5. GRAPHICS - ANIMATIONS, STADIUMS, DRESS etc.
5.1. NEW ANIMATIONS FOR RUNNING
5.2. MORE STADIUMS FROM EPL ( Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U, Newcastle )
5.3. PITCHES CHOICES ( Depending on weather)
5.4. SNOW ( From PES 5 )
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6. SOUND
6.1. FULL NEXT-GEN COMENTARY (Working with stats, team names and so)
6.2. BRAZILIAN-SPANISH COMENTARY (Gol, Gol, Gol, Gooooooooooooolll!! :-) )
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7. EDITING
7.1. IN GAME STADIUM CREATOR, POSSIBILITY OF UNLIMITED STADIUMS
7.2. IN GAME SHOES AND BALLS STADIUM CREATOR
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8. GENERAL
8.1. MEMORY (Look at what made the ps1 and ps2 games so successful and advance on that)
As compiled by "jenicek68"
Also:
1. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.
2. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.
Instead of just adjusting the amount of players in the wall and deciding whether they jump, run or stand, I have a totally different system.
My idea is that when there is a free kick called against you, you will have half a minute or so to put up your wall.
You will start with no one and you will have to decide how many people you want to put, where to put them and what they will do.
You could also have the option to change angels, like from the keeper's eye, and to hold the post for a better angle like in real life, so you can move the wall to either side.
Also, when the time is up (there will be like a small countdown clock), the ref will blow the whistle and the opponent can decide to wait for or to kick the ball when you're not ready (like Messi did a year ago).
This should be an option that you can decide to turn on and off.
I think this will be so cool against your friends, and just to have so much control will be great
Been playing since ISS pro evo 98. I'm still playing so obviously I think it's the best football game about.
Some suggestions:
1. I like that 5 a side mode someone metioned, but a 10 or less a side legends mode would be cool. Also sort out that player camera, it's really hard to see if there's anyone behind you if you want to turn around, or just add different zooms to it.
2. Master league online. This has been coming for a while, I haven't managed to work out how to play as your master league team online and as I put so much time into it I would like to, but this should be a completely seperate mode, master league online, with seperate leagues and rankings, where you have to play with your master league dream team.
3. 2 vs 2 local co-op online. Remember you could do this on the ps2 online, with one ps2. Also you should be able to play 2 vs 2 or even 4 vs 4 online with your friends.
4. Add training back to master league, possibly a revised challenge training mode or mini games, where in the off season, you could work on specific players' statistics, rather than just pressing buttons to change specific statistics.
5. Challenge training online, 4 players, a turn each, a ranking in this would be really cool too.
6. Please bring this back too, online this would be amazing also. Random selection match, one of the best things about pes6 multiplayer.
7. Be able to play the music in your HD during a game ala Skate 2.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for everyone’s ideas, but from now on I will not be paying attention to any post that contains an idea already mentioned in the first post. If you wish for your idea to be included please state it clearly and in one sentence. You may expand on it but only a sentence will be included in the first post so please let me know which sentence it is you want included and in what section (i.e. Animation, Game Play.)
OK, then I'll say again... for the 'Referee' section - I want to see the referee doing mistakes.
Thanks CocoBZ, but just to make sure, by mistakes you mean other than making bad calls?
Hmmm... probably not, but you gave me a great idea: what if in ML we can sometimes bribe the ref so that he takes unfair decisions against the other team? But if this happens too often you risk a fine or even lose some points. Main idea - 'ML'-bribe the ref
Another suggestion, for gameplay this time - you should be able to simulate an injury so that the ref gives you a foul; but if you don't do it right, you will be booked for simulation.
Main idea: 'Gameplay' - simulate injuries
Hmmm... probably not, but you gave me a great idea: what if in ML we can sometimes bribe the ref so that he takes unfair decisions against the other team? But if this happens too often you risk a fine or even lose some points. Main idea - 'ML'-bribe the ref
Are you serious? If you are really seriously thinking about this you are not a soccer fan. FIFA and other organizations are trying their best to get rid of this shit and it will only do bad if this will be in a soccer game that millions of people play.
Another suggestion, for gameplay this time - you should be able to simulate an injury so that the ref gives you a foul; but if you don't do it right, you will be booked for simulation.
Main idea: 'Gameplay' - simulate injuries
What's up with you? You like it when in real games you see those fucking annoying cheaters? You like to see players go down and then back again just as the ball comes to them? I like seeing them stand up after the reff pulls out the yellow card. In fact, I want more punishing and maybe a suspention for one game after looking at the tape.
Also, after the addition of dives and shirt pulling last year at first it was funny and all but it realy is shit that a game encourages this shit football (maybe less with the shirt pulling).
And for the reff issue- I had this idea which in my opinion will solve all these.
There will be 4 types of referees:
1- super ref, makes all the choices right and never makes mistakes.
2- hard ref- calles for every little foul and gives a penalty for small pushing in the boxand goes hard with cards.
3- fluid ref- lets the game flow, doesnt call for every push like you have now, stopes the game only when neccesary and goes easy with cards.
4- realistic ref- a combination of the tough and easy refs, sometimes makes mistakes and sometimes makes good calles, can let offside sometimes.
^Of course I don't like these things, but they are real and we must pay attention to them, too. And, as I said, I want these to be risky.
Barca FC
25-06-2009, 12:07
Defense
1. Bring back the Back Line function - which was removed as a tactic. In my opinion, Backline should make the defenders maintain their line more effectively, unlike the current option where it simply implies how far up the pitch the backline plays. Implementing this change would greatly balance the game with better defenses for human players.
2. AI teammates - The AI has a far too influential role in PES overall, but in defense this becomes a serious problem. When ever a Left/Right back (controlled by a human player) is out of position, or is chasing a striker the AI teammates will always pull a Central defender out of position to assist even if there is a striker running into the box.
AI teammates - Have terrible defensive discipline and on too many instances, wingers are always left free at the far post to header crosses.
3. Bring back Zone Marking - This option was very effective in helping human players defend. The man-marking system used in PES works effectively when implemented by AI but is not as useful for human players. Zone marking option is required.
In addition, because of Man Marking, too often defenders are pulled out of position by the movement of superior players.
Summary - The AI controlled teammates are often caught out in situations where it must decide between providing assistance to another defender and releasing the player it is marking. This has resulted in many goals the human player is powerless to avert. The AI has far too much influence and its growing presence in recent editions of Pro have continued to resulted in games which are unbalanced. It is difficult enough to win the game without having to worry about the AI.
Jasperinho
25-06-2009, 16:23
I would like to see the option back to purchase an additional difficulty level with PES points or to automatically get it after beating the highest level 50+ times or so.. PES gets easy after a few months as you learn how to circumvent the AI (at least that is very easy in PES 2009, where you just twist and turn and make some shot faints with a fast player and easily make rushes from your own half)
Under sounds in the first post, I would like to add that it would be good if the chants could be a little bit longer than the current length as they get a bit repetitive after a while
Under animations in the first post, I would like to add that the sand bags should be removed behind the goals.. This is something from the 1980's. The goalkeepers gloves should also be handled like shoes are handled: official gloves and different options should be available..
StuLinney
26-06-2009, 09:33
The Community Mode expanding onto the Next-Gen consoles (only on PS2 version). Nothing better than being able 2 see your mates faces when U crush 'em. And 4 it 2 stay on record is EVEN better.
Robertinho
26-06-2009, 16:34
My ideas:
REFEREES:Improved moving around the pitch as they now look like KONAMI was watching RAMBO or FINAL FANTASY when they were making referee movement and stance.
-Make that he doesnt book for every foul that is made.
-Referees should book for touching ball with hand because i have seen that many times but no one got booked for playing with hand.
-Referees should allow advantage to team who made a foul in attack and book after that attack passes.
PITCH:I would like that 3d grass is implemented everytime and not only that you see it in cutscenes(like when you get fouled/or you foul).
In PES 09 when goalkeepeer was taking goalkick grass was like some plain surface-camera should be closer and moved lower so that you would look Gk almost from the ground.
-Also I would like to see that pitch after some time of playing perish/being destroyed like in real world,maybe destroy isnt a good word but....you know what i mean.
-This is something minor for reality that i would like to see included and that is when you tackle that grass winds through the air,and something that was in previous series so when you fall down or you tackle someone you should get dirty like it was before.
-Make that logos for every club are shown on each side of the pitch in the start of the game just like in real life(Primera division etc....)like it was in pes 06.
-Make that we can select different pitch patterns like in previous versions
CHANTS AND SUPPORTERS:PES 06 had good atmosphere and i would like that KONAMI includes that.So flares,transparents,different chants(unique for bigger teams)-it is said that these would be included.Differents sounds of drumms,trumps and most of all i would like that supporters animations are fixed.
WEATHER/SEASONS:I would like that different types of weather are included,not like now only rainy and shiny.
So winter season should come back(snowy and shini winter days),autumn(brezzy days,with fog etc),blowing wind-grass is moving on wind as player shirts,corner flags(rapidly),rain is falling sharply etc.Ability to select custom weather-so when you do that your weather is changing from rainy to sunny etc.
ANIMATIONS:Different unique types of animations for every player-its said also that it is included but will see.
So not all players should have same animations like now,so messi or c.ronaldo are making same movements(except c.ronaldos cowboy stance)as walcott for instance.
Give back that when it is winter that you can see hot gasp/air leaving players mounths.
Also new tackling animations and animations of players shirt blowing on wind,something that i really would like is that when you pull other player for kit that its kit raises up and that you can see his undershirt.
Like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPtzg6c3ojo
This trailer showed some very good animations and smooth gameplay as trick with passing ball with heel in air that i would like in future games.
Players should have improved animations and wider selection of goal celebrationg styles.
I would like that you allow animations like spitting as many players do that(I wouldnt want for that to be example to people but...)
Also as we all saw that certain players(leaders/captains on pitch)like lucio or olivier kahn have gestures like moving with hand so other players would go forward....etc.
-What about adding animation that when it is heavy raining,that actual pitch can be flooded with water,and then when you shoot the ball,or ball falls onto it water sprinkles like in real world,also when you slide,ball on that terrain should be slow and stop very quick,also when it is heavy raining I would like that your football kit becomes wet and clung onto players body,maybe you can make that your hair can get wet.
-When player gets tackled he should make painful grimace,players who score the goal should have celebration like jumping on adboard....
PLAYERS GEAR-For this I would like to see included changing players socks styles like-totti has socks deep down to ankle,some players like adebayor... have socks above knee etc..
Also kneck warmers.....
Goalkeeper gloves should be proportional and look more realistic so it doesnt look like it is from final fantasy.
Captains armband also looks weird and should be redone.
Like here:
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06ZS8PE5GH65E/610x.jpg
See also this:
http://www.consolemonster.com/media/0000001349/screenshots/0000001349-L-d7db10b.jpg
its too corpulent for my taste its should be more slim.
Make that if weather is bad players are likely to wear long sleves etc.,especially for Brazilians and Africans because they are not used to winter.
-Players shorts are too big for my taste,something like this would be better
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/torres%20liverpool%20tottenham .jpg
GAMEPLAY-Improved gameplay,with improved AI,and player one on one shots so that when drogba or somebody else is going onto my goal in one on one situation with my goal keepeer isnt so likely to miss.I would like that you improve ability when you are trying to lob or shoot ball by ground when you are 1 on 1 with keeper.
360 degree movement is a must be for pes 2010-360 degree movement should be fundament for PES 2010 and all other Pes series,because PES was once known for its gameplay realism and many fans like me dont care about graphics and other stuff if the gameplay doesnt see "major" improvement.
This is a example of 360 degree movement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfpOdaX8h6w
-Goalkeepers shouldnt freeze although they have a chance to sweep or pick up the ball,and fix this issue because goalkeeper freezes in moment when i am trying to counter attack.
-Easyer chipping goalkeeper when running.
-For the next installement of PES i am suggesting that you take in consideration 2 things-360 degree movement and EUPHORIA ENGINE-because it would revolutionarise game gameplay and this would be excellent combination for next pes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qdmuOesRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwoVwZIvYhE&feature=related
-Remove a.i scripting like auto tackling and auto sweeping because game in that way looks robotised and with less freedom.
-Defenders should run as fast as any other player they are running too slow even with sprint button pressed.
-Make that player who is taking throw-in is turning faster because now its to slow to turn on any side so that is hilarious.
-Dont make overpowered teams like Juventus,Barcelona....where all players are running and playing like on steroids.
GRAPHIC:Improved graphic of stadiums,wider selection of stadiums,and player faces and bodies-attention should be oriented mainly towards player bodies because bodies shapes and physics dont match real ones.
So better musculature,legs should be more sinewy,also shape of bodies should be more relevant towards real ones.
I would like that when you have throw in that small radius is shown for few seconds around the spot where you are throwing the ball,so you are able to know how long some player can throw the ball.
Fix that defenders are soo slow even when running because in real life they are runng fast as any other player it depends of player not positio he plays.
MASTER LEAGUE:
Better managment of players and competitive and challenging way of transfering players.So that it doesnt come to moving ibrahimovic or other bigger class players to some lower class IF that club doesnt meet his expectations about club/league reputation,and finances.
But if you win master league or get enough money players like him should be willing to come.
CAMERA:Please fix the camera,even when you put the camera to wide>long it is still too close,so make farther view of pitch and players when selecting this option.
Add camera tilting-custom camera so that we can move it around and zoom in/out like we want.
-When showing replays slow down ball and players so that it looks better.
-Put more slots for saving replays.
-Remove invisible barrier when trying to zoom out when watching corner replay.
TRAINING MODE:
Return possibility to play against some other team when choosing free training option.
ONLINE-better support for lan,and online playing(1 vs 1,2 vs 2..)
MODES:Get back setting our own tournaments to be able to enjoy with our friends.
PES SHOP:
Pes shop should be redone so that it has some meaning to game.So I would suggest that everything in game is locked except few things:(exibition,online,one stadium,ball,and one boots)and for others you have to play for.
Things to unlock:Classic kits,new nets,new balls,gloves,boots,third kits,old boots from 50s,60s...etc,pitch patterns,classic teams,champions league,master league,game difficulties,cups,leagues etc....-champions league,master league and other important things would require few money to buy it.
Add pictures for everything you would like to buy.
-BUNDES LEAGUE BACK-I HOPE THAT EREDIVISIE WILL BE IN NEW GAME.
-ABILITY TO IMPORT YOUR OWN SONGS INTO GAME JUST LIKE IN GTA SERIES.
-WORLD CUP 2010 IN SOUTH AFRICA SHOULD BE INCLUDED.
-KONAMI PLEASE ONE MORE WISH-MAKE THAT GOALKEEPERS COULD HAVE
-LONG PANTS-especially if the winter as a season is implemented.
-PLEASE PUT SETTINGS SECTION ALONG WITH ADJUSTING CONTROLS IN THE GAME NOT OUTSIDE OF IT FOR PC.IS IT SO BIG PROBLEM??:P
-Power gauges for goalkeepers and remove invisible barriers at throw-ins
-Put more tricks in game
That would be all from me.
I hope that you would not mind because of my long post,and that these ideas will be included as many others.
Thank you:D
Gerardinho
30-06-2009, 01:12
Hello everyone, I'm Gerardinho. I've been gathering some ideas that I'd posted in another site, which I have just find out not to be one of those that Konami's monitoring for suggestions (it's pesnext.com, btw). So I'll put them all here. I apologise beforehand for the lenght of the post(s), but they'll be exactly like the ones posted at the other site. Greetings from Argentina
LIST Nº1
-This is the section for things you need to correct or put back in the game:
# Players' shorts shouldn't be so wide (the lenght is good, though, but they're unfitting as regards their width)
# We should be able (again) to choose the lenght of the players' socks and the way they use their shirts (tucked/untucked). Plus the option of adding earring protectors to our players was pretty cool
# Snow should be an available climatic option
# Goalkeepers' gloves shouldn't be so big (they're like 3 sizes bigger than they're supposed to be)
# When a player is taken out of the field because he's injured, there's no need for us to see him sitting by the line as if he's meditating or something
# When the injured player gets back into the field, it would be cool if he's shown entering in a little screen at the bottom left of the screen instead of using a fullscreen cinematic (dunno if you understood me :S, like it was in pes08 -i think-)
# Besides having the audience made in full 3d models, you could include also those cinematics of close-ups to some members of the audience (again, as in pes08)
# Please, leave the left analog stick ONLY for movement and put the special moves back in the right analog stick. It's very annoying to perform Zidane's 360º move when we don't want to
# The comments, for the love of god PLEASE change the comments! At least bring new people to do them. Oh and also don't recycle the comments we've been hearing since pes4. Record some new ones please! And make them more accurate, for example each player should have 2-3 different comments. It wouldn't hurt you either to make comments appear more often (i've played 10min in total silence sometimes). It would also be great if at match's intros they speak a little about the clubs that will take part on it, etc
# Bring back the dutch league, so we don't have to modify "Other teams B-C" to have it
# Put back the option of pre-defined hairstyles and faces (on next-gen versions it's not present) at "Edit Player"
# Please make PES-SHOP return, but keep some unlockable things for the different tournaments
# Referee's decisions should be revisited: in many times a player gets a red card for a foul that never existed (the ball was touched first)
# The function of the "O" (circle) when defending should be ONLY "sliding tackle" and no the other thing players do sometimes (they stand in an open-legged way and seem to be aiming at breaking the opponent's ankle instead of stealing the ball from him)
# The function of "X" when defending is for a slight pressure, right? then why my player often performs a sliding tacke that knocks the rival down when i press X, specially inside the penalty area?
# When the goalkeeper is kicking the ball or passing it with his hands, we should be able to pass it to whoever we want, not only to the ones the game wants us to pass it to
-And here i'll list things you can add to make of pes 2010 a more enjoyable (and realistic) gaming experience
* Goalkeepers should be able to wear long trousers (it's getting more and more common to see them wearing these)
* Players should be able to have bandages in their hands (such as the one Manchester United's player Patrice Evra had for a long time last season)
* Coach and players at the bench should be seen at all instances of the game and not only on replays
* The game desperately needs more stadiums, boots and balls (here's an idea, they could be unlocked at the PES-SHOP)
* If we make players in bad conditions (you know, with the grey/violet arrow pointing down) play, they could be likely to get an injured muscle from a sprint or a long run
* Speaking of sprinting, i think it should be limitated: the player (any of them) should be able to sprint for some time, but then he should get "tired" and run normally for a while, until he gets well again
* At free kicks, we should be able to choose the amount of steps the player takes before shooting (more steps = more power). It's either that or making the players have 2 types of "stadings" before shooting (a shorter, more precise one, and a longer one, which could be used to perform long distance shots)
* At free kicks, we should be able to have a third shooter who will stop the ball again after being moved by the second shooter, so the first shooter can shoot from a different position (is that ok? just like it is now, using L1 + X to make the 2º striker touch the ball, but with a third one that would stop the ball again, making it be in a different position than the one the ball was when placed for the free kick)
* At free kicks, we should be able to choose who is going to block the shot (in the row of players, i don't know the english for it) and we should be able to move the row sideways (as in FIFA)
* At corner kicks, we should be able to have a 2º striker who would pretty much have the same funcion as the 3º striker in free kicks (stop the ball after getting it so the 1º striker can shoot from a different angle)
* At throw-ins, we should be able to control not the player that holds the ball, but the one that will receive it (pretty much like FIFA). This way we can get rid of our rival or change to other player besides the two that are standing next to the thrower
* At penalties, we should have the power bar and be able to shoot as Zidane did against Italy at World Cup 06 (that kind of vaseline shot, you know)
* When we get a yellow/red card, we should be able to yell to the referee or something simmilar (avoiding phisical violence, of course)
* As someone already said, climate should be dynamic (rain could stop/start and the sun could come out again within the same match, etc)
* The Champions League, now that it's licensed, could be present at Master League as well (in fact, i thought it was going to be like this in pes09. Not that it was going to be another playing mode)
* At Master League we should be able to "borrow" players (i don't know the english for that term, when you get a player although you didn't buy it, so he stays in your team for the rest of the season -is it "lease"?) but then have the choice of aquire ("buy") them when the "lease" is over
* At ML, player's skills should mantain for more years (abilities start dropping when they're relatively young sometimes)
* When the goalkeeper passes the ball using his hands, we should have a power bar so as to reach players that are further
* The teams' rosters should have more players: include more players from reserves
* It is obvious to ask for more teams and leagues, everyone wants this. But it ocurred to me that you could include sub-23 or sub-20 (in some cases) national teams.
* Since I'm Argentinian, I'd love it if you placed my country's league, of course :P
* The difference between "big" teams and "small" teams shouldn't be so pronounced. The same for the difference between players
LIST Nº2
* At free kicks, a little circle could appear, showing the distance at which the wall should be (as in the Italian league's matches). This and the addition of an arrow showing the distance between the player and the goal would be awesome
* The wall should be able to take little steps forward, as all the walls in the world do before a free kick
* As someone already stated, we should be able to create/edit logos for the players' pants and socks (many teams' socks have their names or the logo of the brand on them)
* When you score from a long distance (lets say, 25mts or further), the speed of the shot and the distance the player was could be shown at replays (along with the line that showed the ball's way to goal -that rainbowish track left by the ball as in pes6 and previous games)
* Players asking for offside (raising their hands) could be mistaken every once in a while (like in real matches). In current PESs, everytime the defense raise their hands, our striker is offside. Likewise, the referee or linemen could mark offside when there isn't or not mark it when in fact there is. Referees are not perfect
* Back to teams, we should be able to choose a 3rd/alternative kit for our teams. Or better, infinite kits (1st and 2nd could be original, and others could be added by us through editing)
* The option of combining 1st kit's shirts with 2nd kit's socks or pants should be back. That was great on PES5 (having Juventus playing with the black/white shirt and red pants was hilarious)
* The difference between being home or visitor should be greater. I mean the audience should be more harsh on visitors. It is already, but the booing and whistling should increase
* It would be interesting if players could "remember" their previous clubs, so when they score against them, they wouldn't do any kind of celebration
* This could also happen with the audience: supporters of a player's previous team could boo him when he plays against it
* When we take out a player that played really well, the audience could do a standing ovation for him. This could also happen when we put the star/favourite player of the team (Liverpool = Gerrard / ManU = Giggs / Real Madrid = Raul, etc)
* If a player is having a great match, audience could start screaming his name to encourage him
* A "street mode" could be added, as mentioned before
* Master League should have a Manager mode, in which you're not the team but its coach, and you can be fired and hired by another "bigger" clubs. You can start little and then climb up
* We should be able to play also as a center/side back at "Be a Legend" mode
* A "Be a referee" mode could be added :P
* As part of adding stadiums, there could be some "non-official" courts, like backyards, streets or fields at parks. Also put a closed court, please (as in that FIFA for Snes)
* We should be able to import our music to the game. But I wouldn't like to copy my music to a folder of the game, I would be duplicating the space my music occupies. It would be better if we only need to set the directory of our music in the game. Then, when payed, we could be able to see a tag appearing with the name of the song/artist/album
* Some pitchs could be in bad conditions sometimes (dry/muddy spots for example), or pitch's condition could be selected before the match
* We should be able to create new teams, and not be limited to edit existing ones. The quantity of them should be infinite, and if we could group them to make a new league, it would be great. The same with players, I would like there to be no limited quantity of players to create. We could have the options of singing the created player when we are creating them, and not having to look for him at the "non-signed" section once we are finish creating him
* When we use the "search" option to look for a player (and to see if he already exists or need to be created), the game could show us the team he plays for. This way signins would be easier
* At "edit player", we should be able to see not only the players' numeric stats but also their "shape" (you know, the little 6-sided geometric form formed by AT-DEF-TEC-VEL-STA-STR that we see when changing our team's formation)
* The national teams' kits should be original, or at least we could be able to make them look simmilar to the original at Edit mode. Also, could we have the option of removing the little flag of the national uniforms? Or instead of the flags, the logo of every country's football association could be placed
* Add again the "random" option to choose stadiums. Because now, if we don't go back to main menu after a friendly match, we always play at the same stadium (for ex, when we choose "back to select team" after a match is over)
* Fix the "random" option for climate/time of day: sometimes it never rains, or we never play at night
* In the PC version, could there be a PC interface? with key names or our joysticks buttons instead of the xBox one. If this is too much to ask, could you at least use the PlayStation interface? it's much more known and familiar than the xBox one
* Speaking about graphics, could hair have more movement? PES09's one was a good start, but I think in PES2010 it should be better. I would also like to see when the defender grabs the attacker's shirt from a long range, and not only on replays or with a close camera
* Rain needs a change, it does NOT look good. Plus it should have different intensities: it does not rain with the same intensity all the time. And the difference between a dry/wet/snowy pitch should be more noticeable
* The goalkeeper should have a bottle of water next to the goal and a towel hanging from the net (as real goalkeepers have)
* By the court, there should be photogaphers and policemen who are not made of cardboard (get it? off with 2D models already! Please!). It would also be cool if we could see TV cameras following the ball
* At celebrations, photographers should gather near the scorer to take pics of him (maybe pics that we can later see at the match highlights in form of newspaper covers, with little comments by some journalist)
* Coaches, if not the real ones, should at least LOOK like the real ones. At PES09, ManU has a black, grey-haired man! It would rock if we could create/edit coaches as well, and then sign them to the teams
* Corner flags should be like the originals, with the club's logo
* When editing hairstyles, we should be able to choose a wide piece of cloth for our players to wear on their heads (I don't know the english for that, but I mean the one Ronaldinho sometimes wears, or Tevez recently)
* We should also be able to choose Cech's "helmet" at hairstyles
* Extra hairstyles should be back, like those in PES4 (the samurai helmet or the horse head were great, but the dog heads of pes6 sucked)
* There should be different buzz cuts patterns (like the things Dida or Benzema do to their hair) and more dreadlocks patterns (those that form different shapes at players' heads formed by dreadlocks attached to the head itself)
* When choosing the color of our player's hair, there could be an option for dying some parts of it (the ends, half the head, random pieces of hair, etc)
LIST Nº3
* When we have a player on offside, we should be able to pass the ball to them but before he gets it, we could change the player with L1 and go get the ball with another one, so as to avoid the offside and take the defenders by surprise
* Players should be able to wear finger bandages (I still don't know what they're for, but I see that many of them wear it)
* Players should get harder injuries, like head cuts or broken bones sometimes. When a player gets a head cut, he should return to the playfield with a big bandage.
* Injured players should make some kind of signal to the bench indicating that they can't go on
* Players wearing long sleeves should be able to have them pulled back, just like C. Ronaldo does
* Players should react more quickly to the commands we give them through the controls
* Talking with my friends, they suggested some kind of mini-Master league inside a custom league/cup, in which we are able to buy new players or exchange players between the teams in the league (which would be the favourite teams of the people playing). We could also get points/money from the matches won and the goals scored, just like in ML. I think this would add a lot to offline playing as well as to online playing
* The speed is OK, don't change it please. Or you can add the option of choosing the speed in which we want to play, as we can do in the older versions (PS1 versions)
* When an oponnent is running towards our goal, TWO of our own players (the one we control and one controlled by the AI) go and try to get him, leaving one oponnent alone to receive the ball and score
* Training challenges should return, as well as a tutorial for new moves and an explanation of who and how the tricks are done. We could get points to unlock things at PES-shop by beating training challenges
* A free-kick contest could be added as a mini game. It would absolutely rock!!!
* When an oponnent is running on the sides, our defender should put his hands behind his back so as to avoid getting the ball hit with his hands when the oponnent takes a shot. Many defenders (in real life) do this
* At free-kicks, we should be able to choose the way our player is going to shoot (with the internal part for a curling shot or the upper part of the foot for a strong, direct strike). Add this to my suggestion of selecting how many steps back the shooter should take and we'd have the perfect way to customize free-kick taking
* From time to time, the game could show the coach, substitutes or supporters (maybe a pretty girl) to add realism and a feeling of being watching the game on TV
* That reminded me: when the Champions League anthem is playing, the kids holding the football-shaped flag at the center of the field do not start waving it, they just stand there! I thought this was because the game was running at Medium details, but now I have it in High level of graphics and it's still the same. What's up with this?
* The screen shouldn't fade to black before thorw-ins, corner kicks or free kicks. at corners we should be able to see the taker go and take the ball, and at thorw-ins, some assistant/ball-boy could fetch us the ball, or the player himself could go and get it (maybe arguing with an opponent who went to do the same believing the trow-in was for them). These scenes could be skipped by pressing X or Start. Also, players should not get immediately back to their possitions after a corner kick that wasn't a goal ended up in a throw-in/indirect free-kick for the other team (after a fade-to-black situation)
* Besides classic national teams, there could be some classic teams like Barcelona with Guardiola and those fantastic players, ManU with Roy Keane and Cantona, etc.
* When we make substitutions, we should be able to see the player who's going to enter the field moving at the side of the court
* When the ball goes out of the field, or when the paramedics are aiding a player, the game could show some game highlight(s). Again, if this bothers the player, he/she could be able to skip the scene with X or Start
* Highlights should be showed randomly, not only after the play itself (again, when the ball gest out the field, or if there's a substitution. It could also show a player's goal if he's the one being taken out of the field)
* Every once in a while there should be a very strong tackle, like kicks on the ankle, knee, back, or even the chest!)
* Rene Higuita, the colombian goalkeeper, should be able to do his characteristic move ("the scorpion" - rejecting the ball with his feet above his head). Maybe some goal keepers with high Technique stats could do it also :).
* An injured player could start limping and then throw himself to the ground when injured
* Serious injuries (you know, those which last from 5 weeks on, the ones with a red cross) should happen more often. Since I'm playing PES09 I have seen none of them
OK, that's all I've been thinking of these months. Thank you for this oportunity. CU
scotlandec
30-06-2009, 11:46
[QUOTE=Trevi;1486728]Game play:
Master League:
Better transfers. Being able to use the other league B section. Manager mode. More difficulty levels. Real currency. Bigger player database. Include Champions League an European League.
How about making Master League for 2 players.
I wish I could play ML with my little brother, with transfers etc. Similar to NHL 09, where u can trade hockey players and play with ur own team together in the league. This would be like a dream come true.
I realise though how difficult it could be, but just a suggestion.
If this happens though, I will donate 100 quid to GreenPeace or RedCross or something, no kidding.
dougwood13
30-06-2009, 14:06
I wrote this to KONAMI mid-2008 and edited it a bit in December 2008 before sending it off - so I know that it is a bit old and some of my ideas are repeated, but I think there are lots of ideas in there. I have edited it a bit now. Sorry for the length. Oh and I've been playing since 2003 and I'll never go back to FIFA as this is the only true simulation of football!
To the great programmers at Konami
(I did write [type] this letter well before PES 2009 came out so I have made changes/additions where necessary but please forgive any improvements that I have missed out)
Every year I receive great enjoyment from the Pro Evolution football series. It’s the most realistic representation and simulation of the game and is not matched by any other series in the genre. I understand that some people prefer FIFA’s large number of licensed teams, but for any true footballer Pro Evo is the best.
Every year there are certain aspects of the games, minor shortfalls, which nag at me. So this year I have decided to email my constructive input so that you guys can make the game even better.
(Just a quick note that I want to make is FIFA’s new moving kits are a big plus in the game so hopefully Konami can create something similar for 2010.)
Now to the shortfalls that I find every year:
1 The invisible barriers for players during some set pieces.
2 The number of kits and the way they are selected.
3 The number of balls, stadiums and boots.
4 The number of teams, leagues and competitions in the game.
5 The commentary
6 Minor improvements
1 The gameplay in PES is great. 2009 seems to be more realistic than ever with the defences a lot stronger and more intelligent I am finding Top Player to be a challenge this year! The only problem with gameplay is still the rigidity during set pieces. At kickoff all the players are in the same spot every time, they do not move around and the kickoff always goes back to the right. Throw ins still have the same set up with opponents not being able to come within a certain radius of the throw in. If the ‘invisible barriers’ could be taken away and the players positions varied slightly it would enhance the realism even more.
2 Every year the teams are limited to two kits and you can only select one or the other. I think it would appeal to fans if teams were allowed to have up to 4 kits with the shirts, shorts and socks being separate so that you can mix and match as the teams do in real life (it would also help with some kit clashing in the game). The keepers can still have their two kits, but I think the player should be able to choose which kit the keeper is wearing too.
Another point for the kits which links to the competitions is the competition badge on the sleeve and the shirt numbers. For example - a team like Liverpool will use the premier league numbers and badge for English league and cup games, but for the Champions League (CL) they use the adidas numbers and CL badge. It would be nice if players could select these options before games. A simple menu above the player models (like the ones in ProEvo 2008) could be used:
Shirt : 1st/2nd/3rd/4th (cycles item on model)
Shorts : 1st/2nd/3rd/4th (cycles item on model)
Socks : 1st/2nd/3rd/4th (cycles item on model)
Badge: : (cycles through different competition badges showing name and picture)
Number : (cycles through different number designs showing name and design)
Keeper : 1st/2nd (cycles kit on model)
Eg: Liverpool
Shirt : 1st (Red)
Shorts : 1st (Red)
Socks : 1st (Red)
Badge: : English PL/ FA Cup/ English Cup/ Champions League/ Uefa Cup
(these are all badges that could be used by English teams)
Number : EPL/ adidas
Keeper : 1st
3 Every year there are +-10 balls, +-10 boots and +-15 stadiums and users cannot create new balls, boots or stadiums. I understand that stadiums may be large files to create, but new games now are up to 8 or 12 GB’s so I think a larger database should be able to handle a decent amount of stadiums. This goes for the boots and balls too - there should be no limit for these items.
The stadiums could be linked to countries so that a user could have a World Cup in Italy and only Italian stadiums would be used.
There are lots of features that would benefit from this improvement!
4 Every year there are the same number of leagues and teams. FIFA boasts many more teams and leagues including multiple leagues for countries. Increasing the number of leagues and teams would make the game a lot more popular. I know that Pro Evo does not have a lot of licenses, but users could be allowed 20 or 30 different leagues of up to 4 divisions for example or maybe just 100 divisions. Then a user could have 1 league with 6 divisions and another with just 2 divisions. This would allow for users to have full working league systems for all of the major leagues in Europe - England, Spain, Portugal, France, Germany, Turkey, Russia, Scotland, Italy, Greece and then create their favourite leagues - Brazil, Mexico, MLS for example.
It would also be a good idea to include all national teams so that all international competitions could be played like the real thing - European Cup, African Cup, etc.
To accommodate this, the team selection menu would need to change. A simple system like the one below would work:
International/Club: (followed by example)
International Choose Continent Choose Team
International South America Brazil
Club Choose Country Choose Division Choose Team
Club England League 1 Mansfield Town
The leagues will need to be fully customisable. Users would need to select how many teams are in the league, how many promotion/relegation spots there are, which competitions (linked to the country) that league plays in, which teams qualify for European competitions (for example), the name of the league, the badge for that league (for the team’s shirts), etc. Obviously the leagues would need to be ordered so that relegated/promoted teams go to the correct league.
I mentioned competitions above - these could also be created to be associated with clubs (national or continental) or countries (continental or international). For example, a player could create the ‘English League Cup’ and associate it with only the English Premier League and Championship whereas the FA Cup is played by all English teams. So again the leagues would need to be fully customisable so that users can create all of the unlicensed content.
When a player would want to play a cup a menu such as the one below could be used:
International/Club: (followed by example)
International Continental/International Choose Competition
International Continental Euro Championship
Club National/Continental (If national) Choose Country Choose Competition
Club National Italy Italian Cup
The leagues and competitions should also be linked to their ball and the TV logos. So a Champions League match would use the adidas teamgeist with the Cl logo on it and the scoreboard in the top left corner would be the CL one (now PES has the CL license so you’re going in the right direction!). This would make competition seem more authentic and would make long seasons feel less repetitive with scoreboards for each competition.
Another addition could be different referee kits. So the adidas ref kit could be associated with the CL and World Cup, but the Diadorra kit could be used in Italian leagues and competitions and the Umbro kit for England. It would also add to the realism of different leagues.
Perhaps a referee kit selection could be included before games. This would have two benefits:
1 – Players would be able to use any referee kit for their exhibition matches.
2 – It would avoid the kit clashing that sometimes happens between the referee and one team
5 The lack of in depth commentary is sometimes disappointing. Even though not all of the teams have their stadium represented in the game, maybe the name should be used if the player has selected the game to be at the home team’s stadium. So if its Fulham vs Everton but a generic stadium is used as Fulham’s default it would be nice to hear something like “Welcome to Craven Cottage for today’s game…”
The number of generic player names could also be increased so that the created players do not always remain nameless in the game.
Perhaps players could be given a first and second name in commentary so sometimes they’ll say “Henry with the cross…” and other times “Thierry Henry with the shot…” Increasing the database like this may also alleviate the problem in the previous paragraph.
I don’t know if it is simple, but I have used programmes where a word is typed in and a voice says the word. Some words had to be spelled differently to get the correct pronunciation, but it always worked. Perhaps this could be done with the commentator’s voice and then any name would be available. It would also help when creating teams and naming their stadiums.
The players could also be given actual dates of birth. Using the current calendar (or the date in the season while playing a league) the commentator could use the age as some sort of highlight. For example - “This player has really grown in skill over the years…” or “It’s not often you see so much skill at such a young age in a player”
6 The new continuous play with the quick free kicks is a great addition! I thought it would add more to the realism if more aspects of the game such as goal kicks, corner kicks and throw-ins could follow the same process. It would allow for more random positions at plays and a quick throw-in or corner could add to attacking advantages. In 2009 I have noticed that for goal kicks the players are right outside the box if they were in the box before the ball went out so this is a step in the right direction.
Players should be able to choose the players involved in set pieces. I am a Spurs fan and find it irritating when I have Lennon and Keane in the box for a corner instead of my big defenders that have high heading skill such as King, Dawson and Woodgate. It would mirror the real game more accurately if players could choose target men that would go up for corners and attacking free kicks.
It is also irritating when your right side midfielder comes to defend a throw in on the left and visa versa and the players are out of position.
Every game has the same intro music (I noticed two different ones for 2008 entrance scenes). It would be great if music could be associated with leagues, competitions and even teams (mainly for the international teams I suppose).
I like the new crowd with their swirling scarves and other animations, but sometimes 5000 fans are doing the same thing at the same time. It would look a bit better if they had different timing and if not everyone was swirling their scarf.
Long names on kits often overlap on the kit where they shouldn’t. Perhaps some sort of boundary could be used on name places on the back of kits so that the name curves more to fit or shrinks to fit depending on the style that kit uses. For instance, some teams have straight names like Arsenal that would need to shrink the name (Adebayor), others have semi-circular names like Tottenham Hotspur that would need to curl the name more (and perhaps shrink it too)(Malbranque). Also, the fact that only letters can be used on the shirts makes names like Eto’o impossible to create.
My last suggestion is to make the managers now seen on the sidelines the actual managers. Its not a big issue though, but would be great if you could see them with their nuances - Alex Ferguson looking stern, chewing his gum for example. I love the fact that I can see my subs on the bench and would enjoy it even more if the actual manager was there talking to the players and staff. And, last point, perhaps the substitutes’ bibs could be the real ones made by manufacturers (nike, adidas) and could also not clash with the opponents (it would be even better if the teams could wear their tracksuits but then that’s a whole new kit!)
I think that is enough complaining from me! I hope that you can use some of these suggestions.
Keep up the great work!!
luxo.saty
01-07-2009, 03:08
speed of the game needs to decrease definitely
online needs to be improved
goalkeepers need to be improved
master league a hell of a lot to improve in there
fans
free kicks less difficult
player personalities and their style of play
players style of dribbling
tattoos
player database
leagues worldwide
music
more commentators to choose from
and many many more we can just watch football games and see whats missing on PES :unsure:
Dundon's
01-07-2009, 04:18
Here's a great idea for anyone from Konami that might be reading this thread!!!
If you really want your game fixed and back to it's full glory and you're really serious about it, then email or PM me and I'll instruct you on what needs to be done.
That is all.
Please add this idea in Master League section:
Master League: Randomised database (http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=71268)
I think it add more replayability!
!PrinceofEgypt
01-07-2009, 15:18
What really bothers me is the random transfer system, the development of players in BAL & ML and the amount of Leagues available In BAL & ML. It just sucks having to put teams of different leagues together or just leaving an entire league out.
As I was playing BAL, There were a few players that didn't exactly meet the expectations, like strikers not scoring/giving assists whatsoever. I think the game should react on that by not prolonging their contracts or putting them on the transferlist. I also noticed about the f-ed up random transfersystem. All of a sudden Messi is playing at Hull City, Cristiano Ronaldo at FC Groningen, Eto'o at Lecce. Certain players should have or obtain a certain status which should make them out of reach for the small clubs. There is no realism in the system, did you ever see a world class player accepting an offer of dutch team wether it is feyenoord, ajax or psv or any other.
Team/League Status
They should give the biggest leagues, EPL, La Liga, Serie A bigger status than the other leagues, so it will be a goal for the players to transfer to that particular league.
My idea of how to do this - because ML/BAL do not use preset leagues - Give the current teams a certain untouchable status other than the popularity indicator.
For instance Barcelona, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Man U, Inter, Juve, Liverpool, Chelsea all have this big status. Concerning leagues, PSV have a topclub-status in the dutch league, but if you compare it to an EPL-club, they're in the same category as let's say Bolton Wanderers.
For example, you replicate EPL in League A, Eredivisie in League B. If you compare the clubs from top-to-bottom you notice that Ajax has less status than Man U, AZ less than Chelsea, PSV less than Liverpool, Feyenoord less than Arsenal. In this case the overall status of the Dutch league is much less appealing than the English league. What I’m trying to say is that the overall status of the leagues are determined by status of the teams combined, so that it also contrasts the league-status when putting all the original leagues’ top-teams together in one or just by randomly dividing the teams. In addition to this, the current popularity indication can be used based on results of players and teams. This should have major influence on the transfersystem and choices of the players themselves to which league or club they want to transfer.
Another problem is that the more seasons you play, the clubs get more and more balanced every year. To my opinion this has three different main causes:
1. The random transfer system (midclass players moving to big clubs/worldclass
players moving to small clubs/competitions)
2. The strange and unrealistic currency used and amateuristic money-flows
3. The extreme development of young players
1. Transfers
Like I stated before, transfers should be based on a combination of team-/league-/player status/popularity/ranking and of course available money.
For example if Barcelona (a club of the highest status) wants to contract a player, the player has to meet certain conditions like skills, experience, extreme talent/potential, high popularity. So that the average of the team will not be decreased by contracting a lot of mid-class players and therefore ends up in 7th place in the "spanish league". Also when players get older and lose skills or a player just doesn’t meet up to the expectations he should be put on the transferlist (you should also be able to see every club’s tranferlist to be more transparent) or his contract should not be renewed.
Furthermore I see that a lot of players stay at the same team for more than 8 seasons in a row, despite their decrease of skill or not functioning. We all know that the majority of players like to change teams from time to time (unlike Maldini, Gerrard, Totti etc.) Then how the f*** is it possible when playing BAL that Lucius is still playing at Feyenoord after 8 years. Also when transfers take place it would be more fun if the teams are able to be creative in formation settings which suit the players best (also for national teams), instead of sticking with the formation that is set ingame. For example Arsenal buys a few wingers and is left with only one real target man, while they were playing in a 4-4-2 formation before, give the team the ability to swap the standard formation to a 4-3-3 as it’s more suitable with the current selection of players.
Youth Players
Another idea apart from the newcomers section is the use of fictional youth players, having their debute between 17 and 20 years of age. At every new start of the season you’ll be given the choice to select 1 or 2 youth players for the first team or not (while playing ML). If you chose not to select them they will end up in the section currently known in the game as newcomers. This function can also play an important role in limiting the amount of foreign players in the teams by only using youth players with the same nationality of the club’s origin. This way you should also be able to turn off the rebirth of retired players which really bugs me out when seeing a 17-year old Nesta playing for West Ham United.
2. Moneyflows
To make the transfer market more realistic it should be based on a more Football-Manager-like level, introducing:
*The use of real currency there are no licences needed for this i assume XDlol (euros € for EU version and dollars $ for the NA version)
*Income generated out of merchandising and ticketing based on team- and player-popularity/status, size of the stadium* (we need more stadiums in amount and diversity “small-big”), and supporters amounts (which can be edited and also changed by popularity-status during the seasons).
When playing ML there should be a possibility to change stadiums as your popularity, and ranking grow, so you can host more supporters and boost your ticketing income. This can also be implemented in BAL but in this case you are not able to control it.
Large numbers of empty seats in big stadiums should also lead to loss of money.
3. Development of players
Concerning the extreme development of players; It’s in no way realistic seeing middle class players become world class players who exceed the likes of Pele, Cruyff, Maradonna and Zidane. This also has a negative effect on the team and league balance. Low ranked teams who start out having young players will turn into superteams exceeding the current top teams as Real Madrid, because of the decrease of skills of the much older players who are in those teams and the bad, unrealistic transfers that take place. Some talents should not reach their potential, some good players or talents should suddenly fall back due to high expectations or slump form, like Adriano for example.
I would really like to see the konami-developers taking this in consideration for a change.
BAL
It’s really fucked up/unrealistic when…
…despite how good or bad you play you get substituted every match around the exact same time (65-70th minute).
…you are in the starting line up every match despite being in or out of form. The competition on your position should be much heavier it should not just be a given that you are in the starting line up without having to work hard for it.
…A.I. problem #1: you walk into free space for the perfect (high) through pass and your teammate passes it into the most unlikely direction you can think off (to other players as well as just uuhh the middle of fucking nowhere)
…your team ranking 1st place of the competition while scoring less goals then a team placed 15th
…A.I. problem #2: your defending teammates keep on kicking the ball over the sideline as the ball gets near the penalty-area
…A.I. problem #3: your defending teammates dribble the ball right into the feet of the opposing team (it happens way too often)
…A.I. problem #4: your defending teammates keep on passing the ball dangerously in front of goal (that’s a defender’s rule #1 to never defend in front of goal)
…you don’t have popularity ratings for players and teams like in ML
…you don’t have the possibility of being loaned out to a club in order to gain experience
The rest of the things that need to be improved are practically mentioned by the previous posts. Like more national (African) teams, graphics, additional development of your BAL player by training, Master League set up more like real-life (more leagues, more teams, implementing the CL and Europe League), Editing mode, music in stadium before and after the matches and so on.
What I really loved about PES2009 was that the editing possibilties were much bigger than with pes2008, including ingame music (i loved this part) and chants.
I love the PES-series but I think it’s a shame that when a game has so much potential, Konami doesn’t put in the effort that’s needed to reach his full potential.
1. How long have you been playing PES?
since winning eleven 4 (1998) answering this question makes me feel old XD
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
the realistic gameplay, the difficulty, obtaining more and more liscences
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
as you can see, i wrote a buttload of criteria and suggestions above;)
Well, I have some ideas to add. Some things really annoys me, like when you turn Drogba or C. Ronaldo in different ways. These players constantly turns their way with the ball using the ankle, and it is too much random (was very, very constant at 1.0). It should be considered a drible, like the R2 + arrow drible, which the player turns a lot faster than it does on normal arrow pushing.
Ex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgxGu0Yjuv4 (30').
Another thing. Players like Quaresma, that does not use the weak foot at all, should cross and do long passes like they do as shoting the ball, if they have enough hability to do that. I don't know how this play is called in english (I'm brazilian) but if you did not get it, that's another example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unyVFgDbeZ8
The last one, is the chip difficulty. If the player is far from keeper, and the keeper is going out of the goal, the chip shot is usualy over the bar, or at keeper hand. On previous versions it was a bit more realistic.
Sorry for my bad english, but that's the problem of not being native and not having too much contact with the language.
Stormrider
01-07-2009, 22:24
Great post Prince completely agree on all aspects. I was shocked in BAL when I transferred to Ligue 1 in my 4th season and found out every team had at least 2 Rooney caliber players. So many players develop so unrealistically that they make players like Gerrard and Kaka look like school girls. And Gerrard is always leaving Liverpool 1st chance he gets! I also don't know what Seabass' fascination with Alan Smith is he still develops well :laugh:. I really think they were high when they were working on development curves. Good concept, poor execution.
Many things you guys mentioned are actually in previous versions just have no idea why they needlessly remove features. Injury variation was in Pes 3. I think it was Pes 5 that teams changed formations in the ML according to the players they acquire. The keeper actually come out and play the ball in Pes 3 when you're camped in opponent's half like in real life.
Chilli81
02-07-2009, 00:30
:realmad: i love PES, showed a lot of loyalty all the years but some things got to CHANGE!!!
Licenced Teams: BUNDESLIGA COMEBACK!!! or i'm gonna buy Fifa. and i can't understand why the amount of teams is that low. the more teams the better. also some national teams like bosnia, north-corea are needed if you like to play a real world cup next year. If its not possible to get a Licence, why don't Konami put in the fantasy names like they already did in the past time???!
Referees: Sure Instincts needed. They act and judge like a monkey
A.I.: Lower amount of extra-super-hard fouls by computer-controlled team mates, so much unneeded yellow and red cards earned altough playing fair and safe.
Goalkeepers: a) less rebounds on easy shots
b) more efficient goalkeeping 1-on-1 situations
Stadiums: MORE Stadiums!! especially more european stadiums, nobody needs fantasy or japanese stadiums. What about Anfield, Old Trafford, Signal Iduna Park, Werder Bremen Stadium, Arena Schalke, Stamford Bridge, Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Hamburg Stadium, Olympic Stadium Berlin...
Atmosphere/Fans: Better Stadium Sound and Cheers Atmosphere. And oh my God, MORE COLOUR!!!! more scarfs, more flags more party. sometimes it seems there are 30000 people, all wearing the same grey and white t-shirts. awful... Longer Entrance and Cup-Winning-Animations! Better Commentary...
Master League: Ability to play with created teams from League B
Change Transfer currency to EUROS or DOLLARS
Gameplay: No "Freeze-Effects" after Freekicks!!!
Edit Mode:
Better Face-Scan Mode, especially the ability to add beards to scanned faces.
Ability to change nationality for ALL in-game-players!
More Shoes, More Balls!
More Dribble, Shot-Animation
Bring back the "un-tucked-shirts"-Ability
Music/Sound:
Ability to add entrance sound, jingle sound after scoring a goal!!! Increasing the time for an edited chant, not only 1 minute and then repeating...
Online Updates:
We don't need updates if they DESTROY everything we created on our own shoulders. Every Created Player, every own created team, everything damaged after updating. More Compatibility between the updates, the ability to use data from Version 1.01 with Version 1.06 or whatever
improvements that i would like to see would be more editing options, such as stadiums, cleats, kits, and more online updates from konami no need to say improved gameplay because i have seen this in the previews.
Perfectstrik
02-07-2009, 15:49
What i would LOVE to see in pes2010 and beyond is in this list,although personal choices i feel that from playing konami football games for 16 years and experiencing the highs and lows these are the areas where pes needs to be improved as i have quite a broad experience of konami football games.
1.Greater control and directional placement of goal kicks.
2.Iss,perfect strikers n64 one-two system that also allowed you to delay.
3.The ability to do keep me ups or juggle the ball.
4.Better player control and responsiveness.
5.Greater curl or spin that we the user can add to the ball.
6.Better more accurate heading of the ball.
7.The long pass has been improved greatly in pes2009 but would it be possible to allow manual elevation changes with the left thumbstick or d-pad much like ISS and perfect striker with full manual control on whipped in crosses from the wings rather then having to be parallel to the box or have to press the l1+circle buttons.
8.A much better through ball that players run onto more and a greater level of direction and pace control.
9.More support from players off the ball especially for forwards from the midfield and more of a desire from forwards to attack space and the box on crosses.
10.A greater level of directional control on short passes,long passes,shooting and the through ball,everything still feels limited to 45 and 90 degree angles unlike ISS or perfect striker which gave the user 360 degree directional control.
11.Chipping the keeper by pulling back on the left thumbstick or d-pad while pressing the shoot button as the system in pes doesnt look natural and doesnt require any skill or timing.
12.More tricks including the rainbow flick but only by players that have this ability.
13.j-league teams and maybe the return of world dreams,japan dreams.
14.The power bar on shots and the long pass is to sensitive and theres no feel or sense of weight in the ball.
15.More seamless fluid animation like ISS or perfect striker.
16.360 degree player control like ISS or perfect striker the 8-axis movement in pes feels to rigid and flat and less free.I also liked the way you could make angled movements in ISS by using gentle presses of the dash button and left thumbstick or d-pad.
17.The team you start with in the masterleague is to weak,even a team with low stats or weak players would be able to do the basics better ie pass and shoot in real life.
18.Bring back the pressure sensitive controls for passing,shooting and penalties just like ISS and perfect striker on the n64,power bars are to sensitive and theres no feel.With perfect striker and ISS n64 there was no power bars as you had more feel in your button presses and how that effected the ball please bring this level of refinement back.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING PES?
Since ISS on the snes right through to ISS/perfect striker 1999 on the n64,perfect striker3 ps2,ISS pro ps1,pes1-6 ps2,pes2009 ps3.(AROUND 16 YEARS)
WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE PES?
Pes2009 ps3,pes6 and j-league we cc2008 ps2.
WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT PES?
The look and feel of the game and its unique gameplay qualities that fifa cannot match,pes just feels and plays more like real football as well as having a general look to the players,stadiums that reflects the finer details of the real game.
WHAT DONT YOU LIKE ABOUT PES?
The fact that ISS and perfect striker gave you a much greater level of control on the long pass,crosses,through pass plus had the best one-two system ever in a football game that could be delayed and was more smooth and responsive even though the short pass is better in PES.
WHATS YOUR FAVOURITE KONAMI FOOTBALL GAME?
Probably j-league perfect striker3 ps2 because of its deep control mechanics and super ai although the short pass and graphics have aged badly,pes2009 is close to perfection but needs to be more like this game.
Please have a look konami at this video and my others of perfect striker 3 on the ps2,while the short pass is definetly better in pes there are some brilliant elements in perfect striker that would take pes2010 into a different dimension.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12KdxIq5o0o
These should all be looked at
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=71189
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=71190
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=71243
For tactics: I think it would be really good if free-kick variations were allowed. Either pre-set, either customizable ones would be exciting. Thanks.
for ex.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3uDNr7XDU
And for gameplay: allow players to let the ball go out, no auto-touch, sometimes it's annoying that i can clearly see that if i touch it, the ball goas off from be, but if i don't touch it we get he throw-in.
Other: Indoor football like fifa '98? what do you say?
Penalty: Panenka-like chip penalties whit lob button!
And for gameplay: allow players to let the ball go out, no auto-touch, sometimes it's annoying that i can clearly see that if i touch it, the ball goas off from be, but if i don't touch it we get he throw-in.
For tactics: I think it would be really good if free-kick variations were allowed. Either pre-set, either customizable ones would be exciting. Thanks.
for ex.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH3uDNr7XDU
Other: Indoor football like fifa '98? what do you say?
Penalty: Panenka-like chip penalties whit lob button!
your in trouble! 4 posts on the trot.
Other: Indoor football like fifa '98? what do you say?
I would personally love this, but can take a few good years to develop.
What Lad
04-07-2009, 22:42
very important
return to old style manual passes. Not ai assisted. Not!!!
Bring back manual goalkeeper cursor
Below are just a couple of things which I don't believe have been mentioned on the compiled list (front page) so they're worth a punt:
A major thing that needs to be corrected by Konami is the trick system. They had it right with 2008's use of the right analog stick, but now with 2009 they've changed that to the manual pass tool and it just hasn't worked. It's incredibly difficult now to be able to perform some of the more specialised tricks because you're having to reach over to the d-pad which isn't particularly easy on the Xbox 360 controllers. I honestly don't even know why manual passing exists to be honest. So to summarise: tricks should be performed through the use of the right analog stick - not the d-pad.
Another bonus which would be a very welcome addition would be the option to "edit" your goal gallery. It might be too big of an ask, but it would be excellent to add goals together into a compilation gallery video, possibly of things like "top 10 goals" etc. Maybe having fading effects, and possibly even background music downloaded from an audio CD or iPod inserted into the Xbox 360. Just a potentially nice touch for PES 2010.
Multiple scoreboard options just to keep things fresh and slightly personalised. If the patchers are able to achieve this then I don't see why Konami can't.
Just thought of another one, which is obviously a major flaw from Konami in terms of tactics in gameplay. The CPU has scored against with a header from a corner, albeit the shite marking was my fault, but there is never ever anyone on the back post. There is always a player protecting the front post, but never the back post and it's ridiculous. As opposed to it being automatic as well, we as players should have the choice of whether we want players on the posts, or if we want them in the area marking. Completely defeats the point of protecting the goal if you're only going to stick one player on a post.
Stormrider
05-07-2009, 05:27
I've always wanted them to track games appeared instead of just goals and assists, like in Fifa. The ps2 versions would show this stat during the pre match and in end season of ML but never in the team info page which puzzles me.
They should really bring back the old goals/assists info page where you can switch between them using L1/R1. The current one is just so dam stupid.
schueygod13
06-07-2009, 10:34
i would just like to have the teams players create in any mode we want. Let us have created teams in Master League etc.
obviously more teams would be great as most people always hated the division 2 in master league. Why cant we have Championship teams in the lower division, maybe serie b too etc.
Master league needs a complete overhaul. Need all the management elements in their like players requesting transfers due to not playing, fines, poaching etc.
Also the fatigue of players needs to be looked at. In 09 players can only play two games in row then thet are fatigued, thats way over the top.
StuLinney
06-07-2009, 16:27
Be able to create leagues from scratch. The limit of teams, players (even logo's/emblems etc) should depend on hard drive space.
Online mode:
-When someone disconnects, save the latest score before disconnection together with the time of disconnection and post it next to the 3-0 default victory score (on the page that shows the last 20 results), so that people can decide for themselves whether or not a player is a cheater or quitter. (eg. Someone quits in the 89th minute while losing 8-0. The winner will receive the 3-0 default victory, but other people will see that before the disconnection, the score actually was 8-0 at the 89th minute. Similarly, if the loser manipulated his connection and made the winning opponent disconnect, then, even though the cheater will get 3-0 default victory, everyone will see that he actually was losing 8-0 and hence the unfair victory will be exposed)
-A match option where both players get a random team with random daily forms (arrows), together with a seperate ranking list solely based on the results of these random matches. This will portrait, in the long run, who really masters the game and who is dependent on certain teams and players.
-A pre-match option to disable all replays during match (if required). They can be seen after the match is over. This will save nerves.
-A new ranking system, based on the ELO rating used in professional chess (please look up in wikipedia).The only modification required to the existing chess ELO system would be to consider the strength of the teams played with in addition to the rating of the two players.
I feel the need to clarify what this will really mean to you. Lets say your rating is 400 and your opponents is 900. You play with Besiktas against Barcelona. If you win you get about 30 points, if you draw you get 5 points, if you lose you lose only 1 point. On the other hand, the barcelona player with 900 rating will get 1 point if he wins, lose 5 points if a draw, and lose 30 points if he loses (against you with your 400 rating and lesser team).
This means that if the top ranked players want to increase their rating, they will either have to play even better or similarly rated opponents or choose weaker teams against lesser rated opponents. This will finally bring justice to the rating system and also encourage people to play with teams other than Man U and Barca. It will also reward players who refuse to play with only top teams for the sake of rating.
Note: The strength of a team could simply be measured by the area of the pentagon shown when choosing teams (the pentagon based on the attack, defence, speed, teamwork and technique of the team). This way, it would be dynamic and also change in the future with transfers that make the team stronger or weaker.
I would appreciate it if the original poster could insert the first sentence of each of the above points in the first post.
Thanks for reading my first entry on pesgaming. Sorry it is longer than intended but I believe I had to support my arguments.
Cheers
Dundon's
07-07-2009, 12:30
Another bonus which would be a very welcome addition would be the option to "edit" your goal gallery. It might be too big of an ask, but it would be excellent to add goals together into a compilation gallery video, possibly of things like "top 10 goals" etc. Maybe having fading effects, and possibly even background music downloaded from an audio CD or iPod inserted into the Xbox 360. Just a potentially nice touch for PES 2010.
I like, she's a winner.
Cannon ball
09-07-2009, 10:51
I don't think it has been mentioned before, on this thread or others, but one thing I'd like to see improved, are the penalties. On FIFA there is a penalty power-bar. If you hold down the button, you can go for a powerful blast high into the net, impossible to save, or a light tap of the button, brings a simple side foot. Maybe this can be incorporated in PES too, a power-bar for penalties, similar with free-kicks. Its quite a small thing I know, but its frustrating when penalties are randomly blasted wide or over, through no real fault of the gamer.
trl_path
09-07-2009, 19:37
A minor but annoying one - when adjusting my team's condition there should be an option to turn all on or off - or just default to off - the majority don't usually need conditioning but they are all ticked at the start.
anotherstani
11-07-2009, 13:56
Online mode is the worst ive ever experienced..... I now hold Konami personally responsible for the broken joypad in my living room and am expecting a new one asap!!
Seriously do the guys at konami actually test the online mode before they release it? obviously not.
willows2008
15-07-2009, 01:12
Make a better and excellent game play also this is key important and element is making the player realistic such as graphics because i asked all my friends, they are PES fan and they said that PES 2010 should be 100% realistic and graphics of players.
1. How long have you been playing PES?
- almost 10 years
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
- game play
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
- not realistic
- online lagging
make the match load whilst in formation settings so it saves loading times, if this ain't possible create something like the arena...
1. How long have you been playing PES? Since pes4
2. What are the aspects you like most about PES? the solid camera angles, use of the dpad, smooth gameplay
3. What are the aspects that you don't like about PES? online gaming, bal, loading times
Gameplay
- Slow down the pace significantly, doing this will move the game even more towards a sim
- Introduce manual passing to the x button or improve it further on the analouge stick
- Shooting is still to easy and again this could have a more manual feel to it
- More variations in the type of runs that players make. Your teams mates should look for the ball more, this would mean the game would be focused on passing which for me is important.
- Manual long balls, you need to have more control
- Difficulty needs to be bumped up significantly and this will happen if the game is more manual focused.
Other
- More stadiums from around the world
- different nets for each of these stadiums that could reflect real life to some, attention to detial like this will make the game great again
- Boot editor
- untucked shirts
- Better atmosphere for rival matches and relevant stadium
- Introduce champs league and europa to master league.
- Player models need to be improved slightly, from a distance they all look similar although kit textures are great.
- 360 movement or something along those lines so the players dont feel like robots
More emphasis on technical aspects of stats rather than just speed, dribbling should be just as much of a skill as passing.
- more emphasis on defending an tackling, there isn't much depth with this at the moment
- Player running animations need to be improved and animations overall depending on stance and player, this will also improve the gameplay as it will effect your passing and shooting
edgargdl2005
23-07-2009, 18:57
1. How long have you been playing PES?
since 2000
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
Master League
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
i want change team in the master league please, and christian martinoli y luis garcia for Commentators america latina
konamiking
26-07-2009, 10:54
stop doing player atrributes in numbers doing it in barshttp://media.photobucket.com/image/green%20bars/yellow_06/GlowingGreenBar.png
konamiking
26-07-2009, 11:12
better ball physics and dynamics- ball should be effeced- some balls should be light and some balls heavy------ the ball shouldnt penetrate the goal nets so much but they should a little
--- also the goal nets that i saw in the pes 2010 gameplay montage is excellent please keep them if you dont know what i am talking about see thhis video below--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSrla6qc3bg
konamiking
26-07-2009, 11:14
you should have a better camera view eg when keepers take a goal kick the camera view should be far behind the goal keeper like the one in the pes 2010 gameplay monatgehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSrla6qc3bg
requiem7
26-07-2009, 20:07
stop doing player atrributes in numbers doing it in barshttp://media.photobucket.com/image/green%20bars/yellow_06/GlowingGreenBar.png
I like the numbers! especially when you see the number increase. And they go yellow. And then is it red and pink?
Nothing beats that.
I hope its easier to get online with the new pro evo.
2008 was easy but I have found 2009 impossible. All my other games are idiot proof.
Might make a new thread for that.
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:26
advertising boards should change mechanically like the ones in real life
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:29
360 degress movement----implement it now!!
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:31
stop players and goal keepers skiing and sliding accross the floor when they are walking or moving
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:34
all players and referees and linesman should be paying attention on the pitch and they should also look like they are actually watching and playing the match even if they dont have the ball--------eg once i saw a defender looking outside the pitch and at the crowd in pes 2009??
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:35
refferees should call the paramedics with a hand signal (people who carry players off) on the pitch and we should be able to see it!!
I've given you a booking for consecutive posts, don't make me ban you.
TWO consecutive posts in a single thread without hours between them is bad enough. You've got three and then five on a single page. STOP.
konamiking
26-07-2009, 20:49
there shouldnt be any 'GOOD'' form or ''BAD'' that would make the game bad because you would be able to play your good players if they are on bad form
konamiking
27-07-2009, 23:07
bring the crowd closer to the pitch so you could see them! or there is no point making them 3D as you said they are....
also add the emirates stadium
and licence the top four teams-arsenal, chelsea, liverpool, man u
konamiking
27-07-2009, 23:21
The amount of things that should be included in PES 2010 to overhaul FIFA 2010 is this:
35-40 stadiums
Top 4 teams or more licenced in EPL eg arsenal, man u, liverpool, chelsea
15 official refferees including spanish ones, english ones etc
10 official commentators PS: John Champion is the best
15 differnent referees
10 different foorballs including nike, adidas+ official champions league football that says finale when its the final
plese people add to this__________-
konamiking
27-07-2009, 23:31
konami need to be clever and change every single aspect and detail of the game to make it seem real
konamiking
28-07-2009, 11:50
when a player slides on the floor the pitches grass should come off or there should be a mark left--- and then when its half time the grass should be normal again
-if you dont like this idea then--- the grass should come off on the rubbish stadiums
konamiking
28-07-2009, 12:27
please konami could you include the skill sand tricks that they have in fifa 09 beacuse you dont even need a licence, all you need to do is spend time making players perform the skills and then you save it how hard is that....
1, for crap players it should be harder for them to do it and they will be limited in the amount of skils they can do
2, for good players they should be able to do some tricks
3. for excellent player like ronaldo, messi, kaka, ronaldinho they should be able to do excellent tricks like the ones in fifa
eg.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF0muJ4hMGY look at video below:::
PES 4eva
30-07-2009, 13:38
plz for the love of god and all that is good plz, implement better movement and dribbling animations, eg. 360 degree dribbling, or at the very least 16 way movement.
Thank you
plz Konami listen to this post
yours truly
PES 4EVA
konamiking
31-07-2009, 14:06
1. PES- everysingle player should move and play in a certain way--
in pes 2009 why do all the players run and walk and shoot in the same way?
eg fabregas passes and runs in a certain way which should be seen!
why do the players also look like they are apes ready to pounce, they should have a straight body posture.
2. Innovative Player Control -- 360º Dribbling
3. Physical Play Freedom-- no more invisible walls and barriers
4.Varied Defending Options- slide tackles, trapping from behind, players should throw themselves infront of shots
5. Fifa 10---Behavioural Intelligence Improvements:
Players are more intelligent with more authentic behavior. Players now avoid passes not intended for them, avoid blocking teammate shots, and throw themselves in the way of attacker's shots in defence.
Do the same!
6. Practice Arenas like the ones in fifa 10/09
7. better weather conditions
konamiking
31-07-2009, 14:08
TWO easy ways to make pro an excellent game:
1. Make PES 2010 HD/1080p
2. Implement 360 degrees movement or even 16 ways movement (which ever one it was)
PES 4eva
31-07-2009, 14:28
DEAR KONAMI
please consider the following ideas as i am a loyal fan....
*fix the unstable ai
*fix the unfinished collision detection
*fix restrictive 8-axis movement plus the illogical manual passing system.
if these issues are addessed, i gaurentee that PES 2010, all new season, all new game will be the greatest football simulation off all time and as close as possible to the real thing.
yours Truly
PES 4EVA
Thank You Konami
konamiking
31-07-2009, 18:21
realistic players and game play as well as better ball dyanamics
realistic players and game play as well as better ball dyanamics
I want you to make long, structured posts once you had had time to think. Stop making posts of 10-15 words asking them to do three things. That's not constructive and won't help Konami in any way at all.
I also don't see why you keep posting in here. Pick one or two ideas and if there isn't already a thread about them, make one. If there is a thread, use it. Stop posting random ideas in here when its a topic designed to collate all of the ideas flying about in this section.
Don't ignore this post.
PES 4eva
02-08-2009, 06:40
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DEAR KONAMI
iv been playing pes since iss 2 until now
please consider the following ideas as i am a loyal fan....
*fix restrictive 8-axis movement plus the illogical manual passing system. plz include 360 degree dribbling or at the very least 16-axis movement.
*fix the unfinished collision detection
*fix the unstable ai
i do not like 8-way movement and dribbling animations and i do not like hgh speed, arcade style football game.
i do like the graphics and animation.
if these issues are addessed, i gaurentee that PES 2010, all new season, all new game will be the greatest football simulation off all time and as close as possible to the real thing.
yours Truly
PES 4EVA
Thank You Konami
StuLinney
02-08-2009, 09:49
When you edit your formation/starting line up it should show up on the main screen (when selecting team) instead of it remaining as the default line-up.
Nothing major. just something I find tedious & annoying.
konamiking
03-08-2009, 16:18
Playing since iss.
1.Konami, why do you have to place a number 1 and 2 above the players heads like we dont know what player we are ! ( it only takes a second to find out).
its a small thing that buggers me because it seems unreal!
there should only be a triangle at the top!
i know you other people dont aggree!- but thats just me!
2. Also--- in become a legend mode there should be more things that you can improve and there should be more meters which tell you what you are doing wrong and wright.
eg taking defender out of position = your defender becomes a little worse at positioning.
3. make pitches smaller or do make a different camera anle beacuse what is the point of making the crowds 3D if you cannot see them!!
4. Could you use real life colours in the edit mode as well as defaulty on the kits and boots.
5. Last of all make player realism- real tackling moves, headers and also things before and after matches eg drinking water from water bottles before penaly shoot-out, players talking, signaling, moving into spaces, reading passes, not blocking their own players shots, running into space, taking more time on first touches, more shooting manouvers, better turn ( 360 movement) players sweating and player likeness
Hi there,
I'm one of the really regular players on online Legends and it is certainly the highlight of the game for me.
Attributes:
It takes too long to get to a semi decent character, I would like something along the lines of the UFC career mode, whereby there are games and training and where it's possible to take a playable semi decent (82/83 average) character on after around 10 hours of offline play (with obvious options to play longer/better to get a 90+ stat average player etc). Granted I have 4 32 year old players and therefore am happy to put the hours in, but this has definitely curtailed the online usage for recreational players.
The old school training sections (with the targets free kicks, dribbling through cones etc) for this would be perfect, as currently the only way to practice free kicks is to create a player and copy all the stats/styles into the editor. It could be these that make the difference between average and great players, encouraging development of several characters, rather than a 40hr slog to make just one.
5 v 5 (ie two teams of 4 + computer keeper) is the natural extra option for this mode in my opinion too as it eliminates the emphasis on the points, plus could integrate a ranking system into it for teams and individuals.
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Not yet mentioned:
Character changing: the ability to swap your character while in a room, rather than having to return to the top menu and a general tidying up of the online section menus.
Addition of "Unlucky" to preset phrases online.
Adjustment so LB + Sorry does not = sliding tackle
I LOVE this mode, is there a 100% guarantee that it's definitely going to be on 2010???
madaboutpes
05-08-2009, 07:15
my suggestions as a pes-addicted are as follows:
VERY IMPORTANT
1. DISPLAYING SIMULTANEOUS MATCHES' RESULTS: when you are in a tournament 4-team group and 2 teams go to next round; or when you are in a league and it's the final weeks' struggle for championship YOU REALLY WANT AND NEED TO KNOW the results of the other simultaneous matches. YOu must add this feature (pleaseeeeee). because sometimes just 1 more goal can detemine the season champion. so the results of other matches can be shown during the match.
2. YELLOW/RED CARD FOR THE PLAYER COMMITTING FOUL AFTER REFEREE'S ADVANTAGE: this feature was available in older PES versions. I do not know why it is not present in the recent releases. it's a big weakness for the match: for example when you commit a bad tackle in PES2009 what you need is to let the ball being possessed by the opponent, the referee gives an advantage and the never returns to you ever after to give you a card.
3. GOAL KEEPER'S INVISIBLE PROTECTING SHIELD !!!: why shouldn't we be able to tackle the goalkeeper or not to be able to get close to him.
4. ETHICS: always after the referee announces a kick or foul against a team, that team's players begin to object the referee or attacking toward the opponent team's player. I know this really happens in reality but we have also players who accept the referee's decision and respect the opponent. so you can consider this side of the coin too.
5. LOW ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WHEN THROWING AN OUT: when the opponent player wants to throw in the ball it is very easy to possess the ball. this is a weakness but i have no suggestions for this one.
bruno moura
05-08-2009, 19:00
Hi there PES Fans.
I'm a freshman here typing from Brazil, and an old school PES player, since Nakata's generation.
But I am also a good admirer from the Fifa evolution engines throughout the years.
I'm giving you now all my ideas for the next PES which I am really looking forward to play.
The greatest point which PES loses from FIFA (New generation, particularly 09) is that PES has ins and outs well known by all the usual players. I believe that if you introduce a little dynamism into the game, for exemple, you are heading to your goal, and you push the left direction button and the right, and the left and the right - the player'll perform a kind of a "cut dribble" and you are allowed to choose which goal's side, height and angle you're going to shoot. This is an ease way to put the ball in the net when you're playing with an awful player, such as the ML original ones. Ok then, almost every time you shoot on goal, the ball pass through the GK just too close. If he defends but couldn't hold the ball, you just tip the shoot button and the ball goes right in GK direction, even if he's out of the goal path. It could be a little more difficult to perform THE BEST shot on goal. I think the IA should get better, the CPU should recognize your skill moves if you keep doing it, foresee it and make it very difficult to keep performing. It should have more difficult CPU levels for the good players feel exciting as they play and the rookie ones try to improve their skills and levels.
The player movements are all the same, when the players are running and the texture from the legs, boots, grass, and the faces are under the expectation. The menus should be more interactive with the team you first choose to be yours. With updates, news, photos, interviews and a international competition to find who's going to be the team international PES player representative. There'd be qualifies to decide that and online competitions just like UEFA Champions League, UEFA Cup, Libertadores da America and then. It'd be when the year comes to an end, the world club cup and define the very best team and player.
The game technique should improve to next level, with realistic movements, the players should sweat and get dirty, and as the player runs, his hair flies along the wind direction. Why isn't there any match which the game stars at day broad light and finishes at night? You know, the sun is all up at the sky in the beginning of the match, and as the end approaches, the moon starts to bright and bright.
The weather condition changes within the match time is something to be considered. It rains, it snows, it shines, and all of them mixed. Display other matches results during your own.
I don't even say about the licenses. There should be A LOT of others licenses, A LOT of TEAMS and three or four kits. And you should be able to change shirt or shorts or socks as you wish.
I think 3 leagues for country should do it.
About the manager mode:
The role model game for me is: you get everything that the best fifa manager has, but put the playable teams. I think that administrate an entire team, since the U-17 teams to the pro should be amazing. And of course, you may control them and yet play with them. Signs with sponsors, training the teams, elaborate tactics, conceive interviews and ask questions, improve your stadium, A lot of transfers and real currency buy some other achieves. And yet receive invites to coach international selection. And some international games like world cup during the master league (manager mode), and other cup la America Cup, UEFA Cup and every other leagues stops their matches.
But you shouldn't forget the main focus of the game and the what the fans are expecting. Play a GOOD soccer simulator
Well, I think I put here a lot of things that I missed in the first post which is nearly complete with a lot of details that MUST be considered in the PES 2010 production.
Thanks a lot
shaheen83
06-08-2009, 11:36
hey players hows it goin i play this game since iss on the super Nintendo and what i like to see in pes 2010 would be :
1.STOP AUTO SLIDING
2.OFFICIAL : plsss konami i beg u and i speak for all the players in the world we want official kits for all teams including national,official team names, official stadiums with their real names and some new ones wont do any harm :), official league names and more balls
3.ONLINE & UPDATE : better online play, updating the rosters and transfers
4.SHOOTING : in pes 09 the shooting was dull while in pes 08 it was amazing that it makes u get up from your seat make it more better and realistic
5.COMMENTARY : as i said before i played this game for a long time, played 2 versions the pes and wining 11 jap version believe me the commentator was awesome when he say SHOOTOOOW i wish if its possible to put Japanese commentary along side with english plzzzz
i hope you read this and my wishes could be made :) ..and thank you for your patient with the fans
Magna Blazer
06-08-2009, 22:56
Well I was thinking about some points that Konami should try looking forward. Although my ideas seem a little bit stupid, I will share them with you:
- The balls should have attributes. Wait! Let me explain well. In the real life we can see this frequently. The are some types of balls that go faster when it hits the field, some others that are heavier, others that swerve more.
- The boots should also have attributes. For example: Nike Mercurial Vapor is a very light boot, so it should raise the players speed in 1 or 2 points. Nike Total Ninety is a heavier boot, but it makes shooting and passing a little bit easier, so the player should have his shooting and passing skills raised by 1 or 2 points.
It should be funny playing with balls and boots that affect a player's performance, even if it is a great thing.
I hope you read this...
See ya
Sorry for my English, I am Brazilian ;)
Die Hard Pes Fan
07-08-2009, 02:36
Well I was thinking about some points that Konami should try looking forward. Although my ideas seem a little bit stupid, I will share them with you:
- The balls should have attributes. Wait! Let me explain well. In the real life we can see this frequently. The are some types of balls that go faster when it hits the field, some others that are heavier, others that swerve more.
- The boots should also have attributes. For example: Nike Mercurial Vapor is a very light boot, so it should raise the players speed in 1 or 2 points. Nike Total Ninety is a heavier boot, but it makes shooting and passing a little bit easier, so the player should have his shooting and passing skills raised by 1 or 2 points.
It should be funny playing with balls and boots that affect a player's performance, even if it is a great thing.
I hope you read this...
See ya
Sorry for my English, I am Brazilian ;)
Yea great idea, I like that alot.
Dundon's
11-08-2009, 03:48
Here's an idea, dump that whole 2008/9/10 logo that you've been using, when I see it all I think is bad things.
http://www.calcioalpallone.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/pes-7-pro-evolution-soccer-2008-logo.gif
^
Scar tissue
hojuinho
16-08-2009, 19:20
i'd like to have different sized pitches. its true to real life and can complement / compromise ones style of play
i'd like to have different sized pitches. its true to real life and can complement / compromise ones style of play
I agree, that is part of football and it would be fun to see it in the game.
Robertinho
24-08-2009, 16:21
I want that future Pes games are mix of these games:
Football kingdom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2qzY8eZEo
Pes 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPtzg6c3ojo
Perfect striker 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXDWhxAqZZg&feature
=related
Pes 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elACeqgLVVQ&feature=
related
Football Kingdom-I would like to see more organic running
from it in Pes because no matter what it still beats pes
running since they went to next gen
Pes 4-athough its only intro I would like to see those
animations from it like:players grabbing opposition for shirt,or
realistic football kit moving.
Perfect striker 3-360 movement
Pes 6-Crowd
atmosphere-(flares,drumms,trumpets,flags, scarfs...)
Things I would like to come back:
1)Pes shop-athough it had potential in pes 6 it should be
rewamped and offer more things to unlock instead worthless
animal costumes.
2)Coin toss-its common at present
3)Match option in training mode-I want to play training match
against my reserves or other team.
4)snow-it adds weather variety,and much needed realism.
Also:neckwarmers,orange ball,hot gasp leaving players
mouth..
5)Team Logos before match start on each side of pitch which
was in Pes 5/6
My wishlist:
1)Completely new engine-old one was sucked dry
2)More realistic and organic movement-referee and player
movement is simply hilariuos.
3)Pitch being destroyed after match(eg.if it rains pitch should
be covered with ponds,mud at central area and six yard
box,grass destroyed...etc)
4)When it is raining heavily pitch should be flooded,ball
slow,terrain slippery,when ball falls on grass water should
sprinkle everywhere)
5)Weather changing during game and variety
6)Realistic player kit movement-if wind is blowing shirt and
shorts should move,same when player is running.Shirt is not
glued on players body and should not behave that way.-see
pes 4 intro
7)Kits getting dirty after match-with grass or mud
8)Fix player turning from one side to another when taking
throw ins because its too slow.
9)Fix player shorts-they are too big and unrealistic because
players look like robots when wearing them-it only adds to
robotic feeling.
Example:
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/torres%20liverpool%20tott
enham.jpgf
10)Goalkeeper gloves-again unrealistic
Example:
http://www.prosoccer.com/common/productImages/5077.
jpg[/urlg
11)More slots for saving replays
12)Fix that one pair of boots(just different color)takes more
than one slot.
13)This one is only for PC players:
Put adjusting settings and controlls in game not outside like
now.
Give us option to choose between PS 3 controller display and
xbox 360.
14)Power gauges for everything-shooting,passing,throwing
ball...etc.
15)Long pants for goalkeepers because it adds to realism
16)3D grass should be visible always not only in cutscenes
and replays.
EDIT:
Perfect choice for commentator would be Ray Hudson if nothing he is atleast funny.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS6Np-g_h5w
When its raining it would be realistic if supporters would use umbrellas.
Mullet Taylor
24-08-2009, 16:38
the ability to go in for a meaty two footed challenge :)
requiem7
24-08-2009, 17:40
the ability to go in for a meaty two footed challenge :)
I don't know about 2 footed! lol I find the timing of 1 footed meaty challenge tough enough! Pretty satisfying when you pull it off. That is without the ref pulling you up for it!
** I would like to see goalkeepers that are able to get the play going again more quickly.
** Throw-ins to be quicker. Instead of the other team getting back in position before hand.
** Teams updated throughout the season.
** Freekick takers that react when the ball hits the wall and comes back.
Mullet Taylor
24-08-2009, 17:44
I don't know about 2 footed! lol I find the timing of 1 footed meaty challenge tough enough! Pretty satisfying when you pull it off. That is without the ref pulling you up for it!
** I would like to see goalkeepers that are able to get the play going again more quickly.
** Throw-ins to be quicker. Instead of the other team getting back in position before hand.
** Teams updated throughout the season.
** Freekick takers that react when the ball hits the wall and comes back.
as far as i know, everything you said there has been implemented into the new pes, haa. you should do the lotto this week
i'd love to be able to just snap some dick and get sent off for it. its up to me if i wanna go crazy and get a man sent off. the satisfaction of injuring them would be worth it
requiem7
24-08-2009, 17:55
as far as i know, everything you said there has been implemented into the new pes, haa. you should do the lotto this week
i'd love to be able to just snap some dick and get sent off for it. its up to me if i wanna go crazy and get a man sent off. the satisfaction of injuring them would be worth it
Yes, lets have it!
I remember a few peses ago. That the players would tackle hard if their aggression level was high. I.E Roy Keane.
Mullet Taylor
24-08-2009, 17:56
thats an amazing idea infact !! what other use is the aggression level worth in pes ? we could be onto something here
Please let me first say that gameplay is king. Without it, nothing matters. Given that this is improved, I would really like the following features to return...
-To be able to play a home- & away exhibition game, this makes playing 1 v 1 or 2 v 2 so much more fun!
- on a much more minor detail: to be able to choose the crowd's size and preference. I want the crowd to be able to go silent when i score an away goal in against a rival.
Just some quick thoughts, need to catch a train now ; )
requiem7
25-08-2009, 17:02
When playing 2 legs in cup competitions, you should see the aggregate score on the screen. It'll add a bit of atmosphere. Get the commentators to speak about these games more accurately as well. Player rivalries as well. I.E Keane V Viera.
Yes, lets have it!
I remember a few peses ago. That the players would tackle hard if their aggression level was high. I.E Roy Keane.
That is a very good idea. Maybe you could intertwine the effects of both the aggression and mentality when going in for challenges.
Morgsy Boy
02-09-2009, 17:55
Although quite small, aesthetic things, i know that others have voiced this opinion; that the wide camera would be so much enhanced by the option to tilt 1-9 options like PES 6 and before. Also I think the goals nets need a refurbishment ie make them "square" like in real life. Small things I know but they would definitely make a difference to my PES-playing experience and the overall realism. I wonder if they could incorporate these ideas into the game before release date? Any thoughts? :)
requiem7
02-09-2009, 18:04
Although quite small, aesthetic things, i know that others have voiced this opinion; that the wide camera would be so much enhanced by the option to tilt 1-9 options like PES 6 and before. Also I think the goals nets need a refurbishment ie make them "square" like in real life. Small things I know but they would definitely make a difference to my PES-playing experience and the overall realism. I wonder if they could incorporate these ideas into the game before release date? Any thoughts? :)
Even better would be a choice of goals. Choose different patterns of grass.
Probably for next time.
How good would it be for Konami to embrace the mod scene on the pc format?
smudger1000
03-09-2009, 16:27
I would like to see the ref giving handball decisions and definitely an option to turn off the cut scenes during a match so that you don't need to constantly keep pressing start because that just slows the game down. Also I think the computer tends to make a lot of silly mistakes with the goalkeepers and that should be looked into.
Also if PES could somehow get the licenses, that would be great lol ;)
With the game in it's final stages I don't know whether this will be taken on board. But I feel it is essential and even though posters have mentioned it i will again bang on about it;
The computer selected team need to vary their game it is too predictable and hence you can stop them from scoring as a result this will increase difficulty levels.
To summarise;
More variation in computer selected teams when attacking and more challenging for human player to work an opening.
Watching some of the videos, it seems that dribbling is still ridiculously easy.
You can hang on to the ball for ages if you wanted. This needs to be rectified. A good balance would be to have something in between FIFA 09 and PES 09's dribbling. The harder the better. With the exception of Ronaldo and Messi, you hardly see players keeping the ball for so long with success.
I everyone,
New user, hope i'm on the right forum and just wanna give some ideias that in my opinion could improve a bit PES series
1. How long have you been playing PES?
A: Since ISS in Arcades (pre historic) and ISS Deluxe for SNES and so on (N64, PS2, PC) until today.
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
A: Gameplay, Game speed.
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
A: Dislikes:
- The high Lob just doesn't exist in Pro Evo 2009 (it's almost impossible to do one) comparing with older versions. Can you please make it a bit easyer Konami?
- The goalkeepers in Pro Evo 2009 are a bit weak, even in Top Player (they make impossible saves sometimes, rarely) but almost every time they suffer goals at the middle and thumble the ball very offen. And the difference between Great Goalkeepers like: Buffon, Van der Saar, Schmeichel (Legend) and other less greater G.K. its a bit huge. And in real life isn't that big the gap between a Buffon and a Victor Valdes. Yes Buffon its better then Valdes but no need to put a big gap between them. Thais factor unbalance a little bit the teams. If you know what i mean.
- Why do we need to push 2 times L1 button in manual option when before we only needed to push it once (don´t get it). Now i have to play in semi-auto and the computer always make stupid fouls or penaltys. Bring the old Manual when we only had to push it once.
- The final dislike is Online mode. You need to work on this matter. Of all the PES i've played online the PES 6 was the best one even so could be much better.
4. Requests:
- Comeback of chosing refs (Strict, Soft, etc), maybe real refs and some legend refs like Colina, lol that would be nice;
- Comeback of the option Offside on/off, i used that a lot in ISS vs friends;
- I could say all team licenses you can get (although that would be nice), but in my opinion if you don't have the money or whatever you could easily put all the teams in the World by using the system on PES 6 in wich you had Others Leagues with fake names: Team A, Team B, etc and inside of that teams where German League players we just had to edit league and teams names and one more League was available . So if you can't get German League, Portuguese League, Brazillian League, and few others that would be a good escape i think;
- Other thing is the is a big gap between some teams for example FC Porto has been 2 times UEFA Champions League(1989 and 2003) winner and 2 times Intercontinental winner (last club winning this Cup) and won a 1 UEFA Cup in the last years and even so is a very weak team comparing other clubs. Come on they have very good players almost as good as Ronaldinhos and so (Hulk, Lucho Gonzalez, Lisandro Lopez, Bruno Alves, Helton,etc), Minor Leagues (not just Portuguese clubs) are much inferior then the big clubs and thats just not true (not saying tha all Portuguese clubs or brazillian or dutch are as good) but 2 or 3 or 4 clubs are almost at the same level;
- Instead of removing Legends add every year even more Legends (this is almost my favourite thing in the game just love them) since PES6 i don't see Bobby Charlton, Mario Kempes, Di Stefano, Dzajic, Allen Simonsen, Asprilla, Rivelino, Ravanelli, Gerd Muller, Rummenige, etc) and add some more please and of more Nationalities: Vitor Baia, Paulo Futre, Chalana, Dimas, Oceano, Alfonso, Nadal, Ferrer, Serji Barjuan, Zubizarreta, Prosinecki, Asanovic, Stimac, Popescu, Raducioiu, A. Illie, Panduru,Lupescu, Yekini, Finidi, Babangida, Yeboah, Mathew Le Tissier (Best player ever like Maradona, Pele, Cruijff,, etc) etc etc;
- PLEASe but PLEASE the return of PES Shop, its much more appealling that system to unlock Legends, new balls, Classic Teams, etc. PLEASE.
- Don't see since PES4 All Stars Teams and why?(World, Europe A and B, Asian, African, South American, North American);
- More 3 or 4 Classic Teams (Portugal, Uruguay, Checoslovakia, Hungary, Sweden), why not?;
- Unlockable Classic Clubs? Why not?;
- Since i'm a long date fan and played ISS Series why not their SPECIAL MOVEMENTS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0146LoNlaOc
- Long Throw-In;
- Super Free Kick;
- Rabona(Changed Foot Shoot) - Kick the ball with a foot behind the other;
- Over Head - Elevates the ball with your foot over your opponent's head;
- Sombrero(heel lift) - Elevates the ball with your heel over your opponent's head.(VERY useful)(Okocha, Djalminha, Ronaldo,etc);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu8DmYMfda0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeG0ebxXW-g
- Frog Jump - Jump with the ball trapped on your feet.(Chautmot Blanco);
- Scorpion Kick - Who does not remember René Higuita in Wembley?;
Just to say that i'm not and never was a professional soccer player but play a lot of soccer with friends and i can perform all of this Special
easily, so if I can do it Real Stars do it easyer then me. We could unlock this items in PES Shop like in ISS3 or you just put them freely in the game. Just enlarge the number of players to do all the special moves please.
Another thing i don't understand too it's the fact that i don't remember scoring a bycicle goal since ISS98:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BOPcFducRM
- Other thing is the is a big gap between some teams for example FC Porto has been 2 times UEFA Champions League(1989 and 2003) winner and 2 times Intercontinental winner (last club winning this Cup) and won a 1 UEFA Cup in the last years and even so is a very weak team comparing other clubs. Come on they have very good players almost as good as Ronaldinhos and so (Hulk, Lucho Gonzalez, Lisandro Lopez, Bruno Alves, Helton,etc), Minor Leagues (not just Portuguese clubs) are much inferior then the big clubs and thats just not true (not saying tha all Portuguese clubs or brazillian or dutch are as good) but 2 or 3 or 4 clubs are almost at the same level.
- Instead of removing Legends add every year even more Legends (this is almost my favourite thing in the game just love them) since PES6 i don't see Bobby Charlton, Mario Kempes, Di Stefano, Dzajic, Allen Simonsen, Asprilla, Rivelino, Ravanelli, Gerd Muller, Rummenige, etc) and add some more please and of more Nationalities: Vitor Baia, Paulo Futre, Chalana, Dimas, Oceano, Alfonso, Nadal, Ferrer, Serji Barjuan, Zubizarreta, etc etc.
- PLEASe but PLEASE the return of PES Shop, its much more appealling that system to unlock Legends, new balls, Classic Teams, etc. PLEASE.
- Don't see since PES4 All Stars Teams and why?(World, Europe A and B, Asian, African, South American, North American)
- More 3 or 4 Classic Teams (Portugal, Uruguay, Checoslovakia, Hungary, Sweden), why not?
- Unlockable Classic Clubs? Why not?
Just to say that i'm not and never was a professional soccer player but play a lot of soccer with friends and i can perform all of this Special
easily, so if I can do it Real Stars do it easyer then me. We could unlock this items in PES Shop like in ISS3 or you just put them freely in the game. Just enlarge the number of players to do all the special moves please, or put it in the game so we can use Edit Mode and add this skills to what player we choose.
Kind Regards
Jimaras13
14-09-2009, 03:20
-Improved animations
-Improved Physics
-More Licensed teams,and NEW LEAGUES : Greek SuperLeague,Turkish Superlig, Russian League,Argentinian League,Brazilian League and Portuguese League!
Please Konami!!! Please!!! Create once again the perfect Football game!! PES 2010 glory once again!!!
i liked the demo its good but pls the goalkeepers are still bugged and insert a little more animations to the players i hope plssssssssss konami dont let us down this year i know it was just 70% build the demo and i hope to see more good things in the final version i ve been a fan till ISS pls this lets beat fifa 10 i have hope in you that in the final version will see more gd things :)
hey konami pls and put back in the game the advantage rule in this build of pes 2010 doesnt exist plsssss it so unreal!!
Not that Konami will read this but here's an idea.
Win back your ex-fans who have discovered FIFA is superior by pulling your fingers out and making a brilliant football-sim again.
Been playing PES since ISS Pro Evolution (PS1).
These are my concerns:
- Slow reaction time by players.
Makes it near impossible to time dribbles past opponents and also it's impossible to play near the sidelines... very hard to keep player inbounds on certain occasions.
- Too many deflections from keepers.
Even though the new collision system is quite a joy to watch, those rebounded shots occur way to frequently. Even top GKs have an hard time hanging to shots.
- Defender speed limit.
This was a "feature" from PES a few years ago... it had been fixed, and now it's back. How a defender with Puyol's speed can't run faster, when running side by side, than a slow forward like Luca Toni, is beyond my imagination.
That said, I must say the animations are incredible!
They're so close to reality it's even shocking!
Graphics are also top notch, bright lightning effect is a bit exaggerated on the DEMO, but that's easily fixable.
I really hope you can solve those 3 main issues... because if you don't fix them, and for the first time since PES1, I won't be buying your game.
Hello,
I would like Konami to improve a few things that I think it weren`t mentioned before.
1. the nets should be white combined with the primary color of the home team`s flag/ kit etc...
2. i would like to have the weather changeble during the match automatically. It`s not a rule that if it rains in the first half in the second one should rain too. Or you can make even a transition from rain to clouded to sunny and viceversa
3. when a player taking a freekick hits the wall, i want him to be able to kick again (now it stands for some time until he is able to react) if the ball returns close to him.
4. fans should be devided: fans and ultras. ultras home and ultras away, i want back coregraphy and crowd atmosphere like they were in pes 6 if not better.
5 definately we need more scenes on penalties.
6. Make possible randomly double booking. One for a foul for a player and usually another one for the captain for protests.
7 change the stadiums lights origins. NOT ALL THE STADIUMS have the sunlight coming from the right. It seems like all stadiums are paralel and sunlight only comes from the right side of the field.
8 more corner flags.
9 bring back the picture in picture scenarios
10 put back steaua bucharest in the game. Romania should have 5 teams in the game: 4 in europa league and 1 in champions league.
and that would be all i guess.
First I want to thank you for the game you are making as i have liked a lot, but i would like to make a suggestion, i would like you to put more tricks.
thank you a lot. For your time
Kreator13
22-09-2009, 22:44
for me the things that need improvement are:
1) GK's !! The 1st and prior thing! They are totally horrible and I mean it! Especially when they make a run for the ball outside of their box! TOTALLY SUCKY!
2) Gameplay speed !! Needs to become slower, and players need to run as if they're human running on their feet, not robots running on platforms!
3) Crowd need to become more lively with better reactions, especially on goals!
kingpowell
24-09-2009, 00:26
love to see trophies. also easier editing on ps3 like in past versions not an option file an 130 kit saves.
What i have looked for for years in this series is a sort of mixture betwen PES and Fotball Manager.
i dont really care about the looks its about functionality... looks get u EA sports game feel u get from other games. What i think is that if u could get part of what makes FM so great outside the actual games and get part of what makes PES great mixed up it would be a pretty great combo.
PES -needs- to go tactical wich in part theyve started doing, but i mean more individual control outside the matches, and it would giva the A.I more opurtunities to play smarter football.
Master Leauge i think really needs more, just more period... it is fun has been for years but pretty incomplete. if u have a team and u allready have every great player and u always do after a couple of seasons... why not start over somwhere else? Why not make the actual world rankings into default what are the real chanses of de rossi joining river plate or AS Monaco? get us more divisions in master league play involve the diferent leauges and have lower divisions, dosent really have to bee real teams, why not just make teams up with and an apropriate level manager and funding.
It would also be a good thing if u added more atributes, off the ball, positioning u are starting to see were im going right? im sick and tired of watching great stricker make bad decisions on runs when they have a offensive rank of 92 or higher. its dumb im also pretty sick and tired of my defenders tackling forwards in the penalty box for no real reason... can understand it from defenders who are ranked lower or if the had some sort of concentration stat but otherwise its, anoying to say the least, less is usually not more if it is useed right.
if u have a forward with high of the ball but a litle lower in decisions the make runs when the ball is unlikley to be played (as the do now) but smarter players will hold the rund for just a litle whike so that the defender will collect the ball face up and be able ti make a good pass or move away from the defender closing down...
I think that if KONAMI decides to just leave the game engine untouched except for the neccecary changes needed and added more of the managerial stuff it would still be a great game. The ones that want polish and surface can play EA sports.
These are some of the things i have been wondering about for years ever since the CM days in the '90 it might be time for KONAMI and sports interactive to at least talk to each other.
If you have read this far it means u dont think im crazy or stupid, and i would love your comments or add to my musings
My suggestion is: Real Referees
Ok! Not the most important thing to improve in PES but it could be a good adittion. I guess!
1. Real Referees like: Mejuto Gonzalez; Oscar Julián Ruiz Acosta, Roberto Rosetti, Herbert Fandel, Massimo Busacca, Jorge L Larriondo, Benito Armando Archundia Tellez, etc. With different levels of Stricness.
2. Why not some unlockable Legend Referees. like: Pierluigi Collina, Markus Merk, Peter Mikkelsen, Kim Milton Nielsen, Anders Frisk, Lubos Michel, Urs Meier, Marcelo Elizondo, Romualdo Arppi Filho, David Roland Elleray, Hugh Dallas amongst others.
3. Bring back the option of choosing the Referee like in ISS. For Exibition and Online Matchs.
4. And better overall performances for the Refs. obviously. They rarely give the advantage play in PES 2009 (Play On ref). And some Handballs please. Not as much as in PES 5, 6 or 2008 but a few. Never seen hadballs in PES 2009 and i made a lot of handballs.
5. Better animations for the Refs. and maybe some interference of the Ref. Maybe he could fell off when bumping a player. Aswell sideline refs (being bumped and tackled). Maybe he could intercept a pass or a shot involuntarly (sometimes). Or even get injured and be substituted by 4th Ref. Who knows! Editable style and personality like the players (calm animations, nervous, smiles a lot...etc).
HAKAN ERISEN
02-10-2009, 22:55
Master league with scouts and real young players coming in rather than retired players coming back...
more realistic chants...
Turkish super league...
players stats to be more accurate, not just high for big teams because there are some very good players that stats seem to be very low just because they are not one of the big teams...
number of teams in the master league, we always have a problem with the premier League because you have to choose some non-english teams for the second division and when they get promoted to the England League it loses all the realism.. maybe add a few championship teams in to compensate for this matter....
How about some "fresh blood" instead of every single year since ISS unlocking the same Teams over and over again!
1. Classic All Stars:
- Classic World All Stars (imagine a Dream Team with: Lev Yashin; Walter Zenga; Carlos Alberto Torres; Franz Beckenbauer; Bobby Moore; Nilton Santos; Johan Cruijff; Di Stefano; Platini; Garrincha; Maradona; Pele; etc)
- Classic European All Stars (imagine a Dream Team with: Gordon Banks; Peter Schmeichel; Oliver Kahn; Maldini; Bobby Charlton; Eusebio; Puskas; Van Basten, etc)
- Classic Asian All Stars (imagine a Dream Team with: Chow Chee Keong; Kim Ho Kon; Masami Ihara; Soh Chi Aum; Chen Chi Doi; Karim Bagheri; Kim Joo Sang; Hidetoshi Nakata; Majeed Abdullah; Khodadad Azizi; Ali Daei; Cha Bum Kun; etc)
- Classic African All Stars (imagine a Dream Team with: Joseph-Antoine Bell; Sadok Sassi; Badou Ezzaki; Noureddine Naybet; Hany Ramzy; Samuel Osei Kuffour; Mahmoud El Khatib; Hossam Hassan; Abedi Pele; George Weah; Rabah Madjer; etc)
- Classic American All Stars (imagine a Dream Team with: Amadeo Carrizo; Chilavert; Ladislao Mazurkiewicz; Marcelo Balboa; Gilberto Yearwood; Bruce Wilson; Teofilo Cubillas; Enzo Francescoli; Gustavo Pena; Jorge Magico Gonzalez; Alberto garcia Aspe; Tab Ramos; Dely Valdes; Hugo Sanchez; Hernan Medford; Ivan Zamorano; etc)
2. Classic Clubs:
(Made of a mix of their best players of all time and players of Trophy winner squads)
- Classic Real Madrid; - Classic Nottingham Forest; - Classic America; - Classic Cruzeiro;
- Classic Milan; - Classic Marseille; - Classic Al-Ahly; - Classic Gremio;
- Classic Liverpool; - Classic Steaua Bucaresti; - Classic Raja Casablanca; - Classic River Plate;
- Classic Bayern Munich; - Classic Hamburg; - Classic Enyimba; - Classic Santos;
- Classic Ajax; - Classic Celtic; - Classic Independiente; - Classic Palmeiras;
- Classic Barcelona; - Classic Borussia Dortmund; - Classic Boca Juniores; - Classic Atletico nacional;
- Classic Manchester United; - Classic Red Star Belgrade; - Classic Penarol; - Classic Colo Colo;
- Classic Juventus; - Classic PSV Eindhoven; - Classic Estudiantes; - Classic Olympiacos;
- Classic SL Benfica; - Classic Aston Villa; - Classic Olimpia;
- Classic Internazionale; - Classic Feyenoord; - Classic Sao Paulo;
- Classic FC Porto; - Amongst others...
3. Bring back Good Old All Star Teams:
- World All Stars;
- European All Stars;
- Asian All Stars;
- African All Stars;
- American All Stars.
Fully editable so we can select the eligible players and change anytime.
4. Classic Teams and and perhaps new ones:
- Classic Brazil; - Classic Checoslovakia;
- Classic Argentina; - Classic Hungary;
- Classic England; - Classic Sweden;
- Classic France; - Classic Juguslavia;
- Classic Netherlands; - Classic USSR;
- Classic Germany; - Classic Portugal;
- Classic Uruguay; - Classic Denmark;
5. More Unlockable Classic Players and Unlockable Real Players. Konami should separate Unlockable Classic Players and Unlockable Real Players. And give everyone the Option to use them (both or not) in Master League if we choose too.
Once again not the most Important thing to improve in PES. But a good addition i think.
We just want more Goals to Achieve, more Unlockables.
This wont give Konami hard work like other suggestions. It's just Database. So vote YES Please guys!
Those that aren't bothered could ignore it, and people who want Classic Teams (Classic Players) could just enjoy them.
Hello
I've been playing since PES 5 on ps2. i've played pes08, pes09 as well on ps3. I love PES over fifa due to its realistic feel on the gameplay side.
Based on the PES2010 demo, my suggestions are:
1. Penalty kicks camera: In the options menu to be able to select the classic camera (the camera filming from the back of the penalty taker). the new camera style is very frustrating to use...Also goalkeeper should be able to move along the line to distract penalty taker...
2. Game speed: Option to choose between realistic (default speed) and fast (a faster speed game mode). or may be 3 speed modes. Higher speed games makes it even more action packed and fun. Also, the players don't seem to cover enough ground when running...
3. Passing: needs to be better, that is: a player traps and passes the ball quicker when there is opponent pressure on him but loses some accuracy (unless perhaps if he is a world class player). At the moment it seems a player will always take the same amount of time to trap the ball and make a pass, hence opponent can always catch him out, which is definitely not realistic. Also every player seems to pass the ball the same style, which cannot be correct.
4. Ability to bring goalkeeper up for late corners! This was very useful and fun in pes08/09!
5. There needs to be more movement (runs/feints/jostling) during free kicks and corners. Also may be an animated goalkeeper with hand gestures asking team mates position the wall or mark players.
6. Body collisions can be improved (see FIFA10 as example) ie off balancing players, tumbling etc..
7. Goalkeeper AI really needs to be improved - ie get up quicker when making a save to try and prevent striker follow ups. Plus we would still like to be able to control goalkeeper for 1 on 1 saves! (i heard this has been implemented in the final version but not in demo)
8. Would love to see the 5 corner player stats comparison back...it just gives an overall picture of the player strenght when doing squad selection.
9. animation improvements :
-players getting off the bench to warm up down the touchline prior to substitutions during gameplay.
-ball hitting ref/linesman/handball plus commentary on potential handball decisions.
-4th official on the touchline showing stoppade time and substitutions. -Manager in the manager's box waving to give players instructions whenever there is change in game tactics or formation.
-players pointing and asking for ball when making runs
-aggressive players showing frustration when not passed the ball by a teammate who shoots wide instead
10. To add dualshock support for tackles, nudges/body collisions, ball hitting the post, getting hit by a ball.
11. hopefully online gameplay issues have been sorted.
12. bug - it seems that certain parts of the body can go through each other on collision e.g. when running at goalkeeper and colliding with him, sometimes you can see the attackers legs going through the keepers' head without the attacker stumbling! Or when two players are heading the ball, the heads go through each other.
StuLinney
07-10-2009, 10:23
How about 3 game speeds to choose from? Arcade, Normal & Simulation. Arcade is faster than normal & simluation is slower.
splitboy
12-10-2009, 06:11
Animations when the players miss a shot on goal!
It's been like 5 years and they still use the same one where the players arms are at his side and he bows!
THe player animation for that cutscene looks ridiculous and I've never ever seen someone react like that in a real game of football
I like the first post. Good one mate. It would indeed be nice to see different levels of strichtness among the referees. In pes6 there were several referees to choose from, and they had different ways of controlling the matches. Remember Johan something allowed many hard tackles and didn't throw around with the cards..
johnakan
13-10-2009, 17:15
would like to hear ESPN (latinamerica) commentators, or some argentinian, not mexicans please
1. How long have you been playing PES?
first time was on arcade in early 90`s, then ISSproEvo Soccer on PS1, actually PES 2009 on PS2
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
best simulation over any football game ever, it`s realism is way better than FIFA
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
Audio, need to improve on sounds. Difficulty need one or two more levels
hojuinho
19-10-2009, 23:52
The nets look brutal wen you're playing with English teams, they look more like the nets Roma used to have. Im not saying get rid of that style altogether all I'm saying is I want multiple net options.
sajkan2007
20-10-2009, 23:31
over all the gameplay looks like an improvement, areas that need improving are.
1. player animations, more fluidity, would be nice to see: *more player reactions. *the shirts currently look like though they are made from plastic moulding, these need improving by making them look more attached around the shape of the body, some movement of shirts/shorts would be nice to add to realism. *managers on side lines reacting to the game. *ball boy would be a good addition. *the odd paper or litter flying onto the pitch?
theres plenty more, but these are the ones i'd like to touch on.
Best pro evo ever!! well done konami!!
My suggestions for next season
1) i'd like an expansion of the L2 + R3 trick stick similar to FIFA i can honestly say that is the only thing that that makes me green with envy when i had a look at fifa. that would be brilliant! Kick ups in pro evo anyone??
2) ill have to jump on the slow it down bandwagon aswell.
3) Would it be possible to include the coca cola championship teams to be included with the ML (i know its a long shot) ;-)
4) i'd also love it if it if you could expand on the kit editor (more number and player name fonts)
thanks and keep up the good work ;-)
sajkan2007
30-10-2009, 02:55
crowd noise needs an overall change, chants are not the best and the noise starts to become very annoying. like dying zombies. the repetitive chants go on and on during gameplay and start to become very very very annoying. pls sort this out next game too.
I'd be happy with a few more new player slots, a few more badge slots, and a few more team slots.
That's something that doesn't take that much time, effort, manpower and money to accomplish. You just add a few more lines of code (basically copy+paste), some pretty graphs for "Other Teams C" and you're off.
If I decide I would like to have the already available leagues, and then add the Bundesliga, the Portuguese League, the Brazilian or Argentinian leagues.. I should be able to. I mean, I'm the one doing the editing.. It's not like I'm asking Konami to do it for me.. It's not I'm demanding Konami to pay for the rights for those leagues!! Why don't just add the slots and.. we'll take it from there? :)
seriously.. why not more slots? is there a reason? and why can't we edit the logos for the leagues, cups, and so on, on the PS3? if they aren't editable because they know exacly what we'd do, and they don't have the rights to those competitons, why don't they keep us from editing the badges on the non-official teams? isn't it the same thing?
this year we get to edit teams that are in the Other Teams A section. what I would like to be able to do is this: imagine you want to edit over one of the editable teams, and create a belgium team. If you do so, it's not going to be created beside the belgium squads already in the game (Brugges, Standard, Anderlech..).. and I think it would look better if it did.
what I would like to ask Konami to do is.. when creating a new team, there should be an option to designate that team as a team from a certain country. much the same as you choose a nationality on a created player. that way, if you chose "Belgium" as the that team's home country, the team would be set right beside the other belgium teams, in alphabetical order. the game would gather teams from the same country (Belgium would come before, say, Portugal), and in that sub-group of belgium teams, Charleroi would come before Brugges. this way, you could created teams from wherever, and in the end, they would all be perfectly organized on the menu.
the way it is today, if you wanted to create a belgium team, it's going to have to be created in some random slot, beside the russian teams or whatever. and I think Konami should allow us to organize things a little better.
yeah, I'm kind of weird this way :) i like thiings to be tidy.
am I explaining myself well? :)
familymahone
06-11-2009, 00:39
Apologies if this has already been mentioned but one thing I've always wanted to see is 'real-time' form arrows. This would basically mean that during a game, if a player makes a few good passes or scores then the form arrow goes up and vice versa. I'm sure this would be a fairly simple addition to the game and would make for more realistic gameplay.
Also make use of the dual shock element of the controller.
brucie777
06-11-2009, 10:08
id like the comp opposition to foul a lot more in real football there are fouls by both teams but i hardly seem to get fould by the comp so id like this to be improved
i also think in a freekick you should be able to move the wall to the left and right and the goalkeeper shoul be linked to this so it looks like he is telling his players what to do
requiem7
06-11-2009, 17:16
Apologies if this has already been mentioned but one thing I've always wanted to see is 'real-time' form arrows. This would basically mean that during a game, if a player makes a few good passes or scores then the form arrow goes up and vice versa. I'm sure this would be a fairly simple addition to the game and would make for more realistic gameplay.
In the past on the PS2. Teams would react to going a goal down. They would either be resilient or their heads would go down. Can't remember which PES this was though. But your idea is good.
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, probably but
I would like all computer assistance removed from the player I'm in control of. No sliding, kicking or chasing balls (especially thru balls where the man chases the ball and you can't change directions) when I haven't pressed anything.
ok, here goes nothing:
- You should be able to play the Europa League competition (just as you can play one season of the Champions League). I don't get why this is only available in the Master League. One of the things I love doing is playing a game in PES that is about to happen in reality. Imagine, if Barcelona are at home to Inter Milan in the CL, I love choosing Champions League > Friendly > Barça vs Inter @ Cam Nou and trying it out. For the same reason I would love to choose Europa League > Friendly > Benfica vs Everton @ Estádio da Luz for example. And obviously I know you can do that playing a "normal friendly".. but you see, I love the pretty graphics :) being able to play with the Europa League graphics would be awesome.
- You should be able to play historical CL Finals. I know we'd be limited to the finals played by two teams that are currently licensed, but still, it would be awesome.
- You should be able to play "Challenge Mode". You would be given a situation and a goal. Imagine "It's half-time against AC Milan, you'r losing 0-3, and you have to, at least, take the game into overtime" or "You'r winning 1-0 at the Nou Camp at halftime, but you'r 2 men down and you have to win the game" or "it's the last game of the season, your striker needs 4 goals to finish at the top of the goalscoring list, make it happen." this sort of thing.
- Offline games between 2 friends should be able to keep records. Imagine you had a couple of pals that usually play PES at your home, how awesomewould it be if the game allowed you to input who's playing who, and later on you are able to check out the records, who won the most games, who lost the most games, who had the biggest win, who scored the most goals, etc etc.
- Offline games should have this following option. You would choose one player for your team, your friend would then choose another two for his, then you'd choose another 2 for yours, then he.. you get the idea. this way, both of you would end up with an All-Star team, chosen by you. Then you could play against each other. I think it would be fun.
(the reason why the first person only chooses one player and then both choose two is that, this way, it isn't always the same person choosing first).
- When creating a new team, would should be able to group then next to the already existing teams from that country. Benfica, Braga, FC Porto and Sporting Lisbon are already in the game, but imagine I wanted to create CD Nacional (also from Portugal), you should be able to group then next to the other Portuguese teams, and not on some empty team slot somewhere. All you needed for this it to have a "country ID" thingy (much the same as you have a "nationality" thingy when you create a new player) and the game would do the rest.
- You should have a WHOLE LOT MORE slots. player slots, team slots, kit slots, badge slots, and so on.
- You should be able to edit the Competition Logos.
- There should be a few more generic stadiums, british looking ones, modern looking ones, old looking ones, so when playing a league you don't end up playing always in the same grounds.
..so, that's it. for now :)
I'd love to see the Euphoria engine in PES11. :)
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, probably but
I would like all computer assistance removed from the player I'm in control of. No sliding, kicking or chasing balls (especially thru balls where the man chases the ball and you can't change directions) when I haven't pressed anything.
Yes! The CPU should never second guess me.
CryingGallas
20-11-2009, 20:11
You should be able to TACKLE!! You can't tackle anyone! When I press X or even Square (which doesn't even work), my player just runs with the opposing player and does nothing!
Also, it's unrealistic that when I have 3-4 players around one large (Zigic, Vucinic, Van Nistelrooy), they still can't take the ball off! All this needs to be sorted.
- More focus on manual passing
- Better and more noticeable 360 control
- improved physics system and tackling
- advanced manual shooting(still far to easy)
- Fluid animations depending on body shape etc
- realistic goals nets, physics are good but the shape looks ridiculous
- Improved cpu AI, the game is not a challenge anymore
- More stadiums and more variation, sick of playing smaller teams in giant stadiums. Whats the point in having the CL license if you don't have the stadiums.
the old man
02-12-2009, 00:23
Game play : manual passing , change the cursor like 2008 ...the old control setting .
I did like to see TRIALS added in Master League. So that way , i can put up a trial for a player who i am interested in, for say one week to one month, and see if he fits in the team properly or if he is useful at all. That way, we can make worthy purchases and not waste money. (except for the trial fee).. :)
The_whisper
04-12-2009, 13:24
Somebody....anybody....
As much a diehard PES fan I am, you would understand my feelings
when I say I was disappointed by the pace the game plays at. The demo version was in my point of view much more realistic considering the passing ability and speed of the players. I really was fascinated by
the demo version; it truly rang the bells for me that for the first
time the speed was spot on. Is it my PS3 `s problem or is it that
KONAMI decided to up things a little bit in the last minute?
I am yet to afford an HDTV for my house; I play SD for the time
being. Again, is it my PES copy`s problem or universal that the
commentators don`t say the player`s names? I found out that the same thing happens to some people with SDTV out there too but nothing original.
1 *
the referee in pes 2010 is so stupid ...
he stops play when he shouldn't
he doesn't give fouls when he should
and when a player is tackled and the ball is heading toward a teammate , you think he would give the advantage , but once the teammate touches the ball , the stupid referee stops play (he should only do this if the ball is heading toward the opponent)
2 *
about the free kicks , when I play an assisted free kick (when you press R1+L1) it's way toooooooo easy to score , the wall of players don't even bother to move when the free kick is passed that way (R1+L1) neither the keeper ... so what practically happens is that now you have a free kick with no wall ...
3*
the top player diffculty is nowhere near top , there should be more difficulties ...
so we hope you fix these things cause the game is awesome and there are little annoying bugs that should be fixed
Easier Freekicks
no dude it's better to be harder ... just have enough training on it and you will master it .
I would like to have a better editor.
One in wich you can make stadiums, player faces...etc.
And the gameplay and animations should be improved massively.
Could we please have a referee in this game ???
The main thing they need to do is LISTEN!
So much on here are things that have been said about the last several version and they just haven't fixed them.
I've been playing PES since ISS and I've noticed they are trying to hard to make you play THIER way rather than allowing free and open play like FIFA.
My main complaints are: -
They need to fix the refs, they are extremely poor - call fouls for good tackles most of the time (and give reds far too often) but allow an AI player to slide and NOT EVEN TOUCH the ball in the penalty area, take you out but nothing given. (Asked about this being patched via email but KONAMI won't respond).
They need to learn the offside rule - Say you get dispossed - to the game that counts as as a pass and you get ruled offside if a player is out of line. You make a pass and you get offside even though the offside player is no where near the player who got the ball. Or you pass to the left wing and because someone on the opposite wing is offside it calls it. Does KONAMI actually watch real football or what??
They need to fix "magic bounce" - I notice if the ball bounces off someone (or bounces in general) it almost ALWAYS goes to an opposition player.
Tackling is pretty bad in this game - 3 on 1 and you still don't get the ball.
Anyone notice when YOU have the ball, the opposition are all over you, yet even if you set tactics to press the ball your players never seem to be where they should be.
Stop ping-pong in the midfield. Notice when they have the ball there's always a pass to go to - when you have it, your midfield goes awol.
Change the way defenders suddenly have a stat boost - e.g. you have, say Heskey versus a defender and he's just easily knocked off the ball by a midget defender - I mean the guys over 6 foot and built like an outhouse! Or you have a fast forward and all of a sudden John Terry can run like Ronaldo!
Change the way keepers work. Take Real Madrid - you shoot at thier keeper, even if its a point blank shot and he saves it. They shoot from miles out and in it goes. There's to large a gap in keeper ability - they either seem to be superman or a cripple and when they do let a ball in it's usually something stupid rather than a good shot.
Sort the passing out - say you just threw the ball out, players are running forward, you see a guy running on the top wing, so you press diagonal forward and up, and it gets passed forward?!? you make a good through ball and it automatically passes it too far forward. Make manual passes on all the buttons - let us choose how far and in which direction using the analog stick, stop messing it up for us. manual passes take too long.
Let US choose which player we want when we press L1 (or use the right stick to select player) as the game makes poor decisions - never lets you be the player in the best position.
Make players off the ball actually DO something. They don't tackle, they don't make runs etc.
Make a "Make a run button". Why should I have to pass first to get a run going?
Make it so we can choose where we would like players to run, what sort of runs, defensive position etc in tactics. There aren't enough options.
Make the call a defender button ACTUALLY WORK! I've been chasing a player HOLDING the button and still no one else moves to help unless they're right on top of them, in which case they run in a circular motion to run BEHIND the player.
Stop making defender auto run behind players (as above) or when passes/lobs are made, don't position them in stupid places. E.g. you through ball to the wing and they run between the passer and recipient. Surely if I'm pushing in the direction of the pass (with the recipient) to get the ball before the interception is made, the player should run there, not keep running forward.
Make it so then when there is an interception made, the other players don't stop running. e.g. you initiate a run, a player tackles you, you get the ball back quickly but can't pass as they stop the run.
Make it so being tackled doesn't mean you have to jog for the next few seconds before that player will do anything.
If I slide and get the ball, how the hell can they get back off the floor and get the ball back before I do?!?
In short, actually write a PES 2011, seems like PES 2010 is actually PES 2008 version 3, rather than a new game.
If your current team can't produce anything better then FIRE THEM.
I know seabass is a legendary developer but it seems he and his team can't hack writing for multiple platforms.
PES is getting poorer and poorer with each version and it's getting to the point where PES is no longer gonna be commercially viable.
Be honest, how many here would actually buy the next PES without playing it first? If it's got the same old crap that's in this version, would you buy it? I know I won't.
Show us your serious KONAMI, at least patch the referee, it can't be that hard surely?
Warriors786
27-01-2010, 17:05
In the past pro evo's, in master leagues you could see your past seasons statistics like how many goals you scored and how many goals your players scored in that season and so on, they took it out why? that was a good feature, put it back in, anyone else notice it?
I notice there's lots of people complaining about PES on here.
I also notice KONAMI are completly silent....
No posts, no "we're listening", no "we'll fix the crappy referee", no "we'll try and patch this", nothing.
Am I the only one of the opinion that KONAMI really don't give a damn?
It's alright everyone saying give them time, etc.
The refs been (really, incredibly, in a class of thier own) crap since (at least) 2008 and yet.... silence... no patch, no "we're aware of it", just silence.
Either they can't fix it, don't care, or seeing as they already have everyone's money, they have no intention of fixing it....
C'mon mods - what's going on... are we just talking to ourselves here or what?
I don't mean to be disrespectful or anything, but there's very little point us showing KONAMI where they have gone wrong (Just like we showed em with 08 and 09) if they're just gonna put thier fingers in thier ears and release a game with the same old bugs next year.
I mean they were SUPPOSED to have done it this year, they said they had, everyone figured they would and it's basically the same bloody game with a few tweaks and updated stats/visuals. Even the commentary is the same (Just like it has been for several years, another thing we have asked for and they ignore).
What's going on?
requiem7
29-01-2010, 18:26
Who knows what Konami thinks. Not going to bother buying again till I hear good reviews by people that play the game. I'm sure they'll be others.
A lot of my mates who were pro evo fanatics have moved to Fifa and are enjoying that.
ginger08
01-02-2010, 19:53
GAME PLAY
* MAKE THE GAME HARDER, I WENT A WHOLE MASTER LEAGUE UNBEATEN AND ONLY LET IN UNDER 20 GOALS IN ALL COMPETIONS ITS WAY TOO EASY.
* BETTER A.I ALL OVER. PLAYERS SHOULD MAKE BETTER RUNS OFF THE BALL, DEFENDERS SHOULD COVER BETTER
* SORT OUT THE REFS THEY ARE A JOKE. IN IN MY 3RD MASTER LEAGUE AND HAVE GOT NO PENOS THEY DONT PLAY THE ADVANTAGE RULE VERY WELL EITHER
* BRING PACK THE OLD PK SYSTEM
* MAKE LONG BALLS A BIT MORE EFFECTIVE AND REALISTIC
* SORT OUT THE ANNOYING DELAY TIMES WHEN SHOOTING AND PASSING IT GETS ON MY NERVES
* DIFFERENT PITCH SIZES IN REAL LIFE NOT ALL PITCHES ARE THE SAME SIZE ARE THEY??
* HAVE A L1 BUTTON LIKE FIFA SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET PLAYER TO MAKE RUNS OFF THE BALL, TOO OFTEN WINGERS AND FORWARDS DONT MAKE THE RUNS THEY SHOULD (NEEDS BETTER A.I)
* QUICKER KEEPER DISTRIBUTION THEIR TOO SLOW TO RELEASE THE BALL SLOWING DOWN POSSIBLE COUNTER ATTACKS, REINA OFF LIVERPOOL FOR EXAMPLE IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR QUICK OPTIONS, A POWER BAR SHOULD ALSO BE ADDED TO CONTROL THROW AND KICK DISTANCES
* MAKE THE KEEPERS BETTER COME ON KONAMI THEY DROP THE BALL TOO EASY, LET IN TOO MANY VERY SOFT GOALS, DO NOTHING WHEN THE BALL TRICKLES JUST WIDE, AND GET ROUNDED 1V1'S TOO EASILY, THEIR DIVING ANIMATIONS ARE NOT VERY REALISTIC.PLEASE FIX THEM
* MAKE THE GAME RUN MORE FLUID PES 10 FEELS VERY ROBITIC AT TIMES
* HAVE MORE STATS AND ATTRIBUTES VOLLY SHOT/PASS ACCURACY,HEADING SHOT/PASS ACCURACY THROUGH PASS ACCURACY ETC, HAVE SAY A TEAM LEADER CARD WERE THE SELECTION OF YOUR CAPTAIN CAN HAVE A + OR - EFFECT YOUR TEAM, CLUB LOYALITY (SEE MASTER LEAGUE)
* FIX THE THROUGH PASS ITS BEEN A BIT OF A LET DOWN IN PES 10 TOO HIT AND MISS
* A GAME SPEED OPTION TO LET THE PLAYER PICK WHAT SUITS THEM BEST
* BRING BACK THE OLD TRAINING MINI GAMES THE MADE THE LEARNING A BIT OF FUN
* MAKE EACH PLAYER FEEL A BIT MORE UNIQUE TO CONTROL, LIKE HOW THEY PLAY IN REAL LIFE, ALSO MAKE THE TEAMS FEEL MORE DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE MOST THEM FEEL THE SAME
* BRING BACK THE HAND BALL IT HAPPENS IN GAMES SO IT SHOULD PLAY SOME PART
EDIT MODE
* MAKE WAY WAY MORE SLOTS SO PEOPLE CAN CREATE TEAMS, KONAMI JUST HAS TOO MAKE MORE SPACE AVAILABLE THEN THE GREAT PEOPLE WHO DO THE EDITING CAN TAKE OVER FROM THERE, ENOUGH SLOTS EASILY SHOULD BE MADE TO MAKE THE CHAMPIONSHIP,SEIRA B ETC SO EVERY LEAGUE CAN HAVE THE DIVISION UNDER IT FOR THE MASTER LEAGUE
* MAKE MORE ROOM FOR THE KIT SO EVERY SINGLE TEAM CAN BE EDITED TO HAVE THE CORRECT ONE SAME GOES FOR THE TEAMS CRESTS ENOUGH SPACES FOR EVERY TEAM IS NEEDED
* THE ABILITY TO EDIT THE LEAGUE LOGO HAVE THE CORRECT PREMIER LEAGUE BADGE FA CUP LOGO ETC
* MORE BOOTS AND BALL TYPES AVAILABLE EVEN KEEPERS GLOVES
* THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE NAME FOR EVERY CLUBS STADIUM FOR INSTANCE YES CHELSEA CAN USE THE KONAMI STADIUM BUT IT SHOULD BE EDITED TO SAY STAMFORD BRIDGE YA GET ME??
* THE ABILITY TO CREATE YOUR OWN SET PIECES LIKE FIFA WOULD BE GREAT
* THE ABILTY TO EDIT THE APPERANCE OF EVERY TEAMS MANAGER, WHAT THEY WEAR HAT,GLASSES,TRACKSUIT,SUIT,LON G COAT,CLUB COLOR SCARF ETC
* ABILITY TO EDIT REF/LINES MEN APPERANCES
* A DOWNLOAD SYSTEM LIKE EA SPORTS FIGHT NIGHT WERE YOU CAN SHARE CREATED BOXERS, HOW BOUT KONAMI DO IT TO DOWNLOAD OTHER PEOPLES CREATED PLAYERS OR BETTER STILL CREATED CLUBS
* MORE CROWD CHANTS FOR EACH CLUB`
* CUSTOM WRIST BAND COLORS/BRANDS LIKE WHAT THE AFRICAN PLAYERS WEAR
MASTER LEAGUE
* REALISTIC TRANSFARES IN MY GAME BARCA SIGN BUFFON FO £45M AND NEVER PLAY HIM NOT REALISTIC IS IT??
* IS IT JUST ME OR DO YOUR EVER GET WHEN YOUR PLAYING A BIG CLUB LIKE UTD IN A TOP OF THE TABLE CLASH AND THEY NEVER SEEM TO PLAY THEIR STRONGEST TEAM AGAINST YOU ITS STUPID AGAIN NOT REALISTIC SORT IT OUT KONAMI COME ON
* PRE AND POST MATCH CONFERANCES WERE YOU SELECT A COMMENT THAT HAS A + OR - EFFECT ON YOUR TEAM
* MORE OPTIONS IN TRANSFARES LIKE BRING BACK THE TRADE OPTION AND THE ABILITY TO PAY FEE OVER A PEROID OF TIME THATS HOW ITS DONE NOW ADAYS
* ABILITY TO OFFER TARGETS SIGNING ON FEE, GOAL/ASSIST BONUS BUY OUT CLAUSES ETC
* YOUTH TEAM LEAGUE SO YOU CAN PLAY YOU FRINGE PLAYERS OR FIST TEAM PLAYERS WHO CANT GET IN THE 1ST TEAM
* CLUB TAKE OVERS TO HAPPEN IN THE GAME LIKE IN REAL LIFE
* THE ABILITY TO GET JOB OFFERS FROM OTHER CLUBS AND MOVE TO THEM WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION
* CLUBS THAT ARE IN DEBT HAVING TO SELL THEIR STAR PLAYERS
* OPTION FOR CLUB BOARD REQUESTS MORE MONEY FOR PLAYERS ETC
* UNHAPPY PLAYERS REQUEST A MOVE TO ANOTHER CLUB
* MAKE THE NEWS SECTION A BIT MORE LIVELY SHOW PICS OF PLAYERS BEING UNVAILED AT NEW CLUB WITH THE MANAGER,PLAYERS CELEBRATING A WIN OR GOAL LIKE THEY SHOW IN THE BACK OF SPORTS PAPERS EVEN HAVE A LITTLE STORY JAZZ IT UP A BIT YA KNOW??
* HAVE A TEAM OF THE WEEK SO YOU KNOW WHOS PLAYING WELL AT OTHER CLUBS THEY COULD BE POSSIBLE TRANSFARE TARGETS
* HAVE SCORE FLASHES DURING YOUR MATCHES KNOWING RIVAL TEAMS ARE WINNING COULD PUT YOU UNDER A BIT OF PRESSURE
* MORE REALISIC SHORT AND LONG LONG TERM INJURIES
* TOP PLAYERS SHOWING NO LOYALITY TO YOUR CLUB AND SEEKING BIG MONEY MOVES TO TOP CLUBS (RONALDO - REAL MADRID)
* SHOW THE ACTUAL CUP COMPETION DRAWS TO ADD A BIT OF DRAMA
* ABILTY TO PROMOTE YOUTH TEAM PLAYERS TO THE 1ST TEAM THEN BACK DOWN TO THE RESERVES
* EVERY CLUB SHOULD HAVE THEIR REAL YOUTH TEAM PLAYERS
* GET RID OF THE STUPID REBORN PLAYERS
* ADD ANOTHER CUP TO EACH LEAGUE WERES THE CARLING CUP FOR EXAMPLE
* ABILITY TO SINGLE OUT PLAYERS FOR SPECIAL PRAISE OR GIVE OUT ABOUT IT THEN HAS A + OR - AFFECT ON PLAYER
VISUALS
* THE CUT SCENES LOOK AMAZING BUT A BIT MORE COULD BE DONE TO IN IN GAME GRAPHICS THERE NOT VERY NEXT GEN AND SHOULD BE BETTER
* MORE AND BETTER ANIMATIONS PLAYERS CONTROLLING BALL ON TIGH ETC
* BETTER AND MORE REALISIC ANIMATIONS FOR THE KEEPERS DIVES
CHECK OUT LINKS BELOW FOR IDEAS
http://www.teamswear.be/images/01goalkeeper_diving.jpg
http://www.sportsgeezer.com/.a/6a00d...de85970b-800wi
http://www.sportsgeezer.com/.a/6a00d...de85970b-800wi
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...KV8qW/x250.jpg
* BRING BACK THE OLD NETS LIKE THE OLD BOX TYPE ONES ON THE PS2 FIFAS ONES LOOK GREAT
* DIRTY KITS
* BETTER CELEBRATIONS AFTER SCORING AND BETTER CELEBRATIONS AFTER WINNING A CUP OR LEAGUE TITLE
* HAVE THE REAL PLAYERS ON THE BENCH WARMING UP ON TOUCH LINE, MANAGER BARKING ORDERS AND POINTING INSTRUCTIONS ETC
* SHOTS OF FANS CELEBRATING OR SHOWING THEIR ANGER AT YOU TEAM LETTING IN A LATE GOAL
AUDIO
* HEAR PLAYERS CELEBRATING GOALS SCREAMING AND SHOUTING ETC
* SORT OUT THE COMMENTRY GO MORE IN DEPTH NO MORE STUPID 1 LINERS, IN FIFA A BORING 0-0 DRAW CAN BE MADE MORE ENTERTAINING TALK ABOUT STAR PLAYER,CLUBS FORM HISTORY, RUN THE TEAM IS ON, NEW SIGNINGS ETC
CLICK BELOW TO LISTEN TO HOW MUCH BETTER FIFA COMMENTRY IS EVEN IN 09 VERSION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhTFT1_DIgo
OTHER
* MIGHT BE A LONG SHOT BUT HOW ABOUT KONAMI SETTING UP A WEB PAGE LOKE FIFAS MY EA WORLD WERE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN WEB PAGE AND SAVED GOALS CAN BE VIEWED BY OTHER SITE USERS AND RECORDS CAN BE SHOWN COMMENTS CAN BE LEFT AND FRIENDS MADE FOR ONLINE MATCHES
* EVERY COUPLE OF MONTHS HAVE A COMMENTRY UPDATE DOWNLOAD WITH NEW THINGS SAID TO KEEP THE COMMENTS FRESH
is it just me, or is it hard to read WHEN EVERYTHING IS IN CAPS?
otherwise, respectable ideas and a good contribution. i wonder how hard it is too ad these things or if Konami just doesn't want to fuss about it
BigP_Hellas
04-02-2010, 19:38
* Right Analog stick Dribble control
I'd like to see the right analog stick used for dribbling moves instead of the pass function it has now.
* More Leagues
Come on Konami! I'm sure you can get the rights to the Greek/ Portuguese/ Cypriot/ Turkish/ Russian etc leagues. They would help the Master League SOOOOO much. Many teams competing in the many rounds of qualification for CL and EL. It would be exciting! No more same 5-6 leagues.. with random rest of Europe teams joining in.
* BETTER CROWD
We need a louder crowd! More intense! Playing in hostile rival fields should make a difference. Loud drums making the controller vibrate. Flares! Smoke! Debris on the field! More banners!! The crowd needs life!! If Greece plays Turkey, it should feel like GREECE PLAYING TURKEY!!
* Better International mode
What happened to qualifying for the World Cup? Or the Euro? And why do all the international cup modes feel so generic? Come on!! They should be exciting! With colorful designs! Passionate player/ crowd animations! These are the national teams!!! Dramatic goals where the players rush into the crowd!! Flares!! aaahhhh!!! .. you get what I'm saying..
* Where's the snow?
How the hell come there's no snow on the field?
* Create a stadium mode
Maybe you can't get all the stadiums in, but what if you would let us create our teams stadium? Everything from size, color, banners, nets, flags etc.
* Better presentation!
Come on.. the pre-game intros can be better.. it's 2010.. You can put full National anthems in international competitions. Maybe show the fans getting crazy. Teams exchanging flags/team photos. Updates on other relevant games going on at the same time (like in CL or EL or World Cup). Maybe show stats from previous meetings between the teams. The commentators can make predictions (England should beat Canada). But if Canada takes the lead, "Oh My! What a goal! Canada is ahead!! I can't believe this!!" You know what I mean? Make it exciting!!
* More variety in unlockable special teams
Like maybe Uruguay from the first world cup. Or Greece Euro 2004. Just some variety is all.
* Master League 2nd division for ALL leagues
It's not fair that the teams in the non-user leagues can finish last and not be relegated! They should all have 2nd divisions! Master league should be EPIC!!
PS.. I really want to see the Greek league..
KONAMI OLE!
is it just me, or is it hard to read WHEN EVERYTHING IS IN CAPS?
otherwise, respectable ideas and a good contribution. i wonder how hard it is too ad these things or if Konami just doesn't want to fuss about it
+1
* Right Analog stick Dribble control
I'd like to see the right analog stick used for dribbling moves instead of the pass function it has now.
NO,
If you want that, go play fifa.
Ya can use the left analog stick fine for dribbling IMHO - so why not use the right stick to control the team - like an "I intend to move play in this direction" stick, or to initiate wing play/middle attack or predefined runs/plays. As it is at the moment the AI just isn't on the same wavelength I find - stops runs to early, doesn't run ahead enough sometimes.
Joey Tribbiani
19-02-2010, 13:47
A lot of what i'm about to write may have been covered, but it's worth re-itterating so here goes:
Graphics
The current graphics for players and the referee are pretty solid - not awe inspiring, but solid, and as PES fans, we all know gameplay is more important so Konami don't need to spend as much time on this area of the game as others. Having said that, the crowd and stadiums need to be more detailed. For example, there shouldn't be 70,000 people at Old Trafford wearing the exact same shirt.
Animations
This is a key point in my mind. Goalkeeper animations in particular seem to be not quite right. For example when you have a screaming 30 yard shot with Gerrard, and the keeper just casually moves to the side and catches it. Finger tip saves should be more realistically modelled - the ball shouldn't move at a right-angle if the keeper just touches it with his finger tips.
The Little Things
- Get rid of the darned invisible barriers on throw ins, and even on free kicks. There could be perhaps a circle super imposed onto the pitch to show a 10 yards radius with the player having the option to risk getting booked by moving closer. Obviously the strictness of the ref could play a part in whether the player receives a card or not.
- The noise of the crowd, is especially important. It's the biggest cliche in football, but Anfield on a European night should feel special. The commentators should comment on it saying stuff like 'Just listen to the Kop tonight - they're up for it' etc. Also, playing a dead rubber midweek clash between Bolton and Fulham should feel that way. There should be empty seats, which also the commentators comment on. 'Oh it's a real problem for them, and one the chairman should be monitoring closely, perhaps the price of tickets has something to do with it? What do you think Mark?' 'Errrrm, well... You knerr...' etc
- More stadiums, whether they are unlicensed or not. PS2 has more, why not across platforms? Make more smaller, generic grounds up. FIFA has Ivy Lane which looks like a lot of grounds in the Premiership, why can't PES?
- Injuries should be more realistic I feel. Say Tomas Gravesen goes in hard/2 footed on C.Ronaldo, then Ronaldo should be rolling around with a broken leg which you should be able to see, like if the bone has come through the skin or what.
- Make teams feel more individual/unique. Stoke should not play it around casually ont the halfway line for 40 passes like Arsenal. Italian teams should sit back and play it slowly/counter attack. Again this should be commented on. "Well you've got to admire the technical brilliance of this Roma side, but as spectacle it's far from great".
- Presentation could be improved massively. It should feel like i'm watching the game on ITV/BBC. For example the scores and time should be in a solid box in the top of one corner, like it currently is in UCL mode. Perhaps a deal could be done with ESPN allowing them to put 'ESPN live' in a corner? On FIFA 2000 you had Gary Lineker introduce the commentary team - that was slick and added to the presentation. When the teams walk out the camera should follow a key player from each team and comments should be made as to how they will impact on the game. Head to heads even - Vidic v Torres - "Well in the last 2/3 meetings Torres has given Vidic real problems". League table brought up at the end of the game. If it's the final day and each result counts, scores could be brought up midway through the match with the commentators explaining the different permeatations.
- Transfers should be more realistic. For example in my current ML season on PES 10, i'm in season 4 and Real Madrid have bought every Barca player apart from Valdes and Henry, and have re-sold Ronaldo and RVN back to Man Utd. It's crazy!
- Weather conditions - Snow! Yellow balls should be used automatically -even FIFA 99 had that! It shouldn't just be either 'rainy, or sunny' aswell. Conditions should be relevant to the time of the season and the location of the match. If it's in England the weather should change at the drop of a hat from sunny to cloudy. The physics of the ball should change. If it's raining then the ball should skid away from players, but if it hammers it down for 90 minutes, then by the end of the game the ball should be getting stuck in puddles, players stamina should diminish faster.
- And I almost forgot the most important one - bring back the cut scenes of you winning the trophy!
There are so many things that can be improved! I'll give someone else a chance now.
Phatmann
19-02-2010, 14:06
The weather conditions are something that Fifa 10 seems to have done well with. In the rain, the ball holds up a lot more than on a dry pitch, which can cause a lot of problems, especially if your defender is slow and the opposing attacker is fast. The rain doesn't change though, so it stays at the same level of rain and the pitch stays at the same wetness throughout the match. Wasn't there an old game - not sure if it was fifa or PES - where there was the occasional clap of thunder and flash of lightning? There is snow in fifa and it varies between light and heavy but online they don't change the ball so you're playing with a white ball on snow. :faceplm:
One thing that's annoyed me about the latest PES is that it's borrowed some of the worst parts from Fifa, such as the overall stat. It was completely unnecessary.
Joey Tribbiani
19-02-2010, 16:08
One thing that's annoyed me about the latest PES is that it's borrowed some of the worst parts from Fifa, such as the overall stat. It was completely unnecessary.
Definatley. The old hexagon was a lot better and made it easier to see what positions players were suited to.
Say for example you had Essien and Lampard, and could only fit one into your team at DMF, then you'd choose the player with better strength, short passing and defending attributes. Which in this case is Essien. Now, unless you want to spend ages trawling through each players individual stats, you just choose the player with the higher overall who may not be best suited to the particular role you wat him to play.
tinksboy
23-02-2010, 09:41
we want to be able to edit everything to its full extent on PS3!!! and i mean everything !!!!!!
INCLUDING
socks, shorts, boots, balls, stadiums (Build your own, edit), goal nets, fans, managers, the bench, training kits, turf designs, referees, home menu screen backgrounds, adboards, keeper gloves, ability to edit shoulders on shirts etc etc.
I believe that most people would enjoy this feature as all pes players could customise the game to suit themselves and to shape the game around how they want it to look like and feel
tinksboy
23-02-2010, 09:46
A lot of what i'm about to write may have been covered, but it's worth re-itterating so here goes:
Graphics
The current graphics for players and the referee are pretty solid - not awe inspiring, but solid, and as PES fans, we all know gameplay is more important so Konami don't need to spend as much time on this area of the game as others. Having said that, the crowd and stadiums need to be more detailed. For example, there shouldn't be 70,000 people at Old Trafford wearing the exact same shirt.
Animations
This is a key point in my mind. Goalkeeper animations in particular seem to be not quite right. For example when you have a screaming 30 yard shot with Gerrard, and the keeper just casually moves to the side and catches it. Finger tip saves should be more realistically modelled - the ball shouldn't move at a right-angle if the keeper just touches it with his finger tips.
The Little Things
- Get rid of the darned invisible barriers on throw ins, and even on free kicks. There could be perhaps a circle super imposed onto the pitch to show a 10 yards radius with the player having the option to risk getting booked by moving closer. Obviously the strictness of the ref could play a part in whether the player receives a card or not.
- The noise of the crowd, is especially important. It's the biggest cliche in football, but Anfield on a European night should feel special. The commentators should comment on it saying stuff like 'Just listen to the Kop tonight - they're up for it' etc. Also, playing a dead rubber midweek clash between Bolton and Fulham should feel that way. There should be empty seats, which also the commentators comment on. 'Oh it's a real problem for them, and one the chairman should be monitoring closely, perhaps the price of tickets has something to do with it? What do you think Mark?' 'Errrrm, well... You knerr...' etc
- More stadiums, whether they are unlicensed or not. PS2 has more, why not across platforms? Make more smaller, generic grounds up. FIFA has Ivy Lane which looks like a lot of grounds in the Premiership, why can't PES?
- Injuries should be more realistic I feel. Say Tomas Gravesen goes in hard/2 footed on C.Ronaldo, then Ronaldo should be rolling around with a broken leg which you should be able to see, like if the bone has come through the skin or what.
- Make teams feel more individual/unique. Stoke should not play it around casually ont the halfway line for 40 passes like Arsenal. Italian teams should sit back and play it slowly/counter attack. Again this should be commented on. "Well you've got to admire the technical brilliance of this Roma side, but as spectacle it's far from great".
- Presentation could be improved massively. It should feel like i'm watching the game on ITV/BBC. For example the scores and time should be in a solid box in the top of one corner, like it currently is in UCL mode. Perhaps a deal could be done with ESPN allowing them to put 'ESPN live' in a corner? On FIFA 2000 you had Gary Lineker introduce the commentary team - that was slick and added to the presentation. When the teams walk out the camera should follow a key player from each team and comments should be made as to how they will impact on the game. Head to heads even - Vidic v Torres - "Well in the last 2/3 meetings Torres has given Vidic real problems". League table brought up at the end of the game. If it's the final day and each result counts, scores could be brought up midway through the match with the commentators explaining the different permeatations.
- Transfers should be more realistic. For example in my current ML season on PES 10, i'm in season 4 and Real Madrid have bought every Barca player apart from Valdes and Henry, and have re-sold Ronaldo and RVN back to Man Utd. It's crazy!
- Weather conditions - Snow! Yellow balls should be used automatically -even FIFA 99 had that! It shouldn't just be either 'rainy, or sunny' aswell. Conditions should be relevant to the time of the season and the location of the match. If it's in England the weather should change at the drop of a hat from sunny to cloudy. The physics of the ball should change. If it's raining then the ball should skid away from players, but if it hammers it down for 90 minutes, then by the end of the game the ball should be getting stuck in puddles, players stamina should diminish faster.
- And I almost forgot the most important one - bring back the cut scenes of you winning the trophy!
There are so many things that can be improved! I'll give someone else a chance now.
Awesome ideas mate plus the one below urs about the ball skidding off the surface and holding up etc all NEED to be included next game
requiem7
23-02-2010, 17:25
we want to be able to edit everything to its full extent on PS3!!! and i mean everything !!!!!!
INCLUDING
socks, shorts, boots, balls, stadiums (Build your own, edit), goal nets, fans, managers, the bench, training kits, turf designs, referees, home menu screen backgrounds, adboards, keeper gloves, ability to edit shoulders on shirts etc etc.
I believe that most people would enjoy this feature as all pes players could customise the game to suit themselves and to shape the game around how they want it to look like and feel
That's what I have been thinking of lately. A fully in depth editor. An ability to modify and share you're creations. Options to insert you're own chants for the fans.
Warriors786
23-02-2010, 17:42
In the past pro evo's, in master leagues you could see your past seasons statistics like how many goals you scored and how many goals your players scored in that season and so on, they took it out why? That was a good feature, put it back in. There should be a statistic where you can see how many clean sheets your goalkeeper has kept.
In the master league mode, when you win the league they should make you feel more of a champion, because in the start of every season you feel like you haven't won anything. Make the transfers more realistic; make the prices for the players more accurate. When you loan a player you should have the power to get them back when you want. Show pictures of your new transfers holding the shirt and in a press conference. When you sign sponsorship deals, the sponsor should be on your kit. When playing matches, you should be able to see players warming up on the touchline. You should be able to put your players into reserve matches. EG coming back from long term injury, new young signings to gain experience. You receive reports on how well they did. When you buy players on loan, you should be able to make the loan permanent.
Update the Become a legend mode because it’s getting old, add loads more features.
The Albanian national team also! :erm:
The new Pro Evo should avoid trying to be like Fifa!
Pro Evo needs to concentrate on how the game FEELS rather than what it looks like, or on random new game modes that essentially most people will ignore.
The reason people play pro evo is because of how different it is to Fifa. Of course Fifa has aspects of gameplay which are very good, but for me, Fifa is like watching a football match rather than being involved and playing one.
Which isn't the case with Pro Evo has it has more pace, and the shooting is much better.
Fifa has goals that look nice and float in, but you don't get a FEEL of the shot as you do with Pro Evo. PES6 shooting was amazing, although sometimes you felt the keeper should of saved it, you still got a sense of pride because of how the shot felt AND looked.
The new penalty system in PES2010 is terrible, it's always disappointing going to penalties but now its even more so. It's fine trying to make scoring penalties more reliant on skill rather than if you choose the right place to put the ball, but PES2010 got this horribly wrong. You had no FEEL about if the penalty was on target or not.
The response of players needs to be improved, when a player first receives the ball there should not be any delay or extra touch between pressing pass and the player passing.
The new interface was very unwelcome.
It was a lot more straightforward comparing players, changing formation and changing player positions wth the old system.
How manual pass and tricks are performed need to be rethought.
The right analogue stick being used for manual is nice, but could work just as well as holding a shoulder button and pass. The current way of performing tricks isn't simple enough, most people soon realise it isn't worth the effort and so not many people perform tricks anymore. Having this assigned back to the right analogue stick, like it was, will bring back that dimension to playing a match.
More customisation is always welcome, the more choice the better!
Choosing Refs!
While this is a bit of a gimmick, in PES6 choosing refs would influence how harsh they would be in response to fouls, having a choice between a incredibly harsh ref, a unbelievably leinient ref, and a few in between, would change the pace of the game. Having a random ref each match would add a bit more variety between matches.
If there's more variety between matches, with each one not feeling exactly the same, then it makes players less likely to get bored and put the controller down after only a few games.
Classic Players!
Unlocking classic players is always good, but this year certain classic players weren't included! I know Pro Evo don't have the license for classic players and use false names for players modelled on classic players, but where were the players modelled on Bobby Moore, Pele, Cruyff?
International Teams
Should have bigger squads!
Goalkeepers need to made better.
It is realistic for goalkeepers to make mistakes, but on the last 2 versions of PES the mistakes seem to happen randomly, for example a goalkeeper would put a cross into his own net even though it would have been more realistic for him to punch it away from goal.
Some goalkeeper saves need to be changed. A finger tip save for a soft shot and a hard shot shouldn't take the same amount of time to go out for a corner. Keepers should look strained to save/catch a powerful shot, not casual.
Online should have better matchmaking, to reduce the likelihood of having a game where players have a bad connection.
Oh where should i start...
. When I press the Pass Button, i REALLY want the player to pass the ball... I'm tired of takin' goals cuz then player didn't passed the ball in the right time...
. When i pess the "triangle button" (the deep pass) i wanna a "deep pass" that cut trough the defense...
. And in a "deep pass", Why the players run to the "X"!?!? Sometimes the ball are on their side and still they run to where the ball will stop... Unbelievable! Why cant the player take the ball before!?!?? Why!?!?!
. U know, i don't know but here in Brasil, we don't play with such "air balls"... When a ball comes in our chests we can dominate then u know, without its gone flyin' trhough the sky...
- Why is so hard to dominate a ball? I never see a soccer game on TV that the players have so dificulty in dominating a ball... I dunno what game u are watchin to make this game, but i suggest u guys stop and look some REAL game...
. Cards, Penalties and Fouls... This all exist in a REAL soccer game u know guys. When a player dive in others legs... FOUL!!! If its too harsh, CARD!!!! And if it is inside box... PENALTY...!!!!!!!!!! What game are u based on guys??? Soccer it isn't!
. Dunno what u think a Soccer game was but, teh EASIEST think is play at first shoot, u don't need to have a special hability to it u know? If i Press a button BEFORE THE BALL TOUCHS MY PLAYER i want that he makes a first touch play... Why it is so hard to understand...
This game is way better than 08 and 09, but theres WAY long too go before gettin' to the BOOM that was the past games (From SNES to PS2)...
Thanks for listening and sorry for the temper, but i lose the UEFA finals¨game because of all this S*$% that i mention here...
reyhan37
08-03-2010, 22:34
I agree with many of the previous comments.
PES needs a massive upgrade to the atmosphere or "feel" of the game. Home crowd goes nuts if winning goal or equalizing goal is scored in the last ten minutes. Cup finals should have a louder audience that reacts more to what is happening on the pitch. Home crowd boos if ref decisions go against them. If a certain player commits lots of fouls, the other team will get in his face almost causing a fight. :realmad: Then the ref will call the two players involved and both team captains to sort it out before making the final decision. Inclusion of derbies would be amazing! Both home and away fans are extra lively: Arsenal v Tottenham, Man Utd v Man City, Liverpool v Everton, El Classico, Milan v Inter, Juventus v Torino, Marseille v PSG, Rangers v Celtic, Feyenoord v Ajax, etc. Difference in style between leagues. EPL teams play at a faster pace, refs allow more fouls, fans chant more. La Liga teams play lots of little passes, technical attacking football, and refs call every little foul. Serie A teams more willing to play for 1-nil, tight defenses, great counterattacks, fans are more rowdy will throw garbage/light fires. :w00t Champions Lg/Europe Cup refs are more balanced. If your team gets knocked out of a quarter final, semifinal, or final in penalty shootout you will see some team members upset/crying. :crymore:
In terms of gameplay, there should be more control at corners and set pieces. FIFA's new system is amazing. You should be able to create set piece situations in the edit team mode. When defending set pieces you can put players at the far and near post. Choose between a zone/or man mark defense. On offensive set pieces center backs/bigger players get into the box while smaller players may drop back. If needed in the last minute, everyone including the goal keeper can get into the box. For corners and indirect free kicks, the kicker should be able to choose exactly which player he's aiming for/surgical passing--> maybe holding a shoulder button brings up a button over every player's head, like passing in the Madden football games. During regular play players who have both long pass accuracy and short pass accuracy exceeding 85 can also use surgical passing. Since not all players can be seen on screen, the respective buttons would appear on the radar, with a preference to the player who can best make a run toward goal, then the most open players with no defenders closing them down. :cool:
Master league development could be more realistic. Only stats that should eventually decrease with age is acceleration first, then top speed, then jump, and last stamina. No player or human being continues to get faster after 26. Attack ,defense, mentality and team work should steadily increase as players get older eventually tapering off around 28-32. All other stats should never decrease, just taper off so they don't increase any more. Shot power and long pass speed should be combined into one stat. It makes no sense that a player with shot power of 90+ has a long pass speed of less than 80.
reyhan37
08-03-2010, 23:12
players stats to be more accurate, not just high for big teams because there are some very good players that stats seem to be very low just because they are not one of the big teams...
I'm glad someone said something! Just because Barca won everything last year doesn't make their bench warmers better than the starting eleven of Atletico Madrid. Konami should use the Castrol rankings as a reference. Do you know who Andrey Arshavin is!? Abou Diaby is currently ranked 30th! He better not be crap in PES 2011.
Online:
- Ranked match: able to pick your team before match AND an option enable "team match" (ie: to avoid big teams if you are playing with med or low teams, etc).
- Disconnection: always save the last result before disconnection or, at least, save score after first half is finished.
- Tournaments: Make morning tournaments (Euro time). Also, make skill-match tournaments, specially for those not being pros and want to compete.
Thanks!
Antonyc1977
07-04-2010, 11:53
Please re-introduce the option for the Tilted Camera Angles - as it was in PS2 Versions.
Also, please can you make it so I get a couple of penalties a season and more Free Kicks?
Also, remove the "Skip Match" option. Otherwise, I'm quite happy.
Also, remove the "Skip Match" option. Otherwise, I'm quite happy.
"Skip match" was one of the most desirable so no, keep it :)
I want training challenges back with achievements etc. Penalties sux in pes2010, especially with no way to train on it. jeez konami, fix up the bad act for 2011.
1. How long have you been playing PES?
all my life, i've played all the series of ISS, WE and PES since 1994
2. What are the aspects that you like most about PES?
mostly everything
3. What are the aspects that you don’t like about PES?
3 things... to make it better.
- i would like to be able of changing teams during the Master League .....maybe you could merge ML and BAL, and when you start it, choose if you want to be the player, the coach or the president of the team.... if you choose president it could be like the actual ML, if you choose coach,,, you could be bought by other teams, and if you choose player well it would be like BAL.
- i would love to see an option or switch, on the Become a Legend mode, to choose if you want to play just with your player or use the whole squad in the matches
- just make it more real, anything would be nice, for example, include more real life stats on the ML and BAL, a mean like facts, How many champions league cups do every team have in the real life, put it on the game and keep adding cups while your winning on the ML. top strikers stats from real life, every player's appearances on champions league and top scorers and keep adding while your playing, i mean just make it more like real life, more real narrations on the commentarys, make more stadiums, more expresions on the players faces, etc, anything would be nice.
THANKS
ps. i could mention a lot of other things to make it better, like A.I. deffects, another hardness level, more slots to crate teams, second divisions of each league, etc etc.... but im sure your working on that and i care more of the first 3 points i mentioned
Nemisiskidd
25-04-2010, 14:11
1) how long have u been plyin pes?
since iss but really got into it at pes 3
2) what are your aspects you most like of PES?
mostly everythinglike the graphics and the fluid gameplay
3) what wud u like 2 c improved?
might sound silly but i wud lyk edit boot bak e.g. nike mercurial u can change da base colour and accent then detail like the nike swoosh and sole.. i think that wud b kl also edit stadium wud b 2 complex so y dnt konami make fake replicas of the stadiums e.g. stamford bridge but change name so there is no copyright infridgement (although in edit mode you can revert the name 2 real).
this may not apply 2 more simple pes players but i want 2 c a betta skill system BRING BAK DA TRICK STICK, make more outrageous tricks e.g. fifa trick system with flicks and feints although i dnt like 2 really compare pes 2 fifa.
to make more penalties b given away maybe in cup finals 2 make it intense and decision making and make Europa league a standalone mode and as i here the south american equivalent 2 the champions league is gnna b in pes 2011 so make that standalone aswell to show managers like in the new fifa world cup game and therefore be able to edit the manager so u wud c arsen wenger on the touchline if arsenal is 1 nil down.there r obviously quite a few other little probs bout pes 2010 but i definetly want better match atmosphere like the world cup is electric that sort of atmosphere in pes wud be more realistic in big games and contrasts in smaller games. also more smaller low budget stadiums bcoz i c D2 teams in master leauge plyin in Stadio olimpico and this jus seems stupid.. i also wud lyk 2 comment on celebrations bcoz they seem a bit low key i scor in the last minit winner and the player jus jogs 2 the touch line clappin his hands this seems really stupid when the rest of the team jus run around my player celebration shud b more theatrical and more team orientated to avoid the team runnin around the scorer with more cinematic view for the celebration.
referees shud be able to have editable kits for each leauge and also more realistic with wrong desicions and commentators commenting on the decisons as some may b wrong and other ways of gettin red cards apart from slide tackles from behind and not always go 2 dish out a red card.
less robotic runnin more free flowin
better ai from the computer and team mates around
a little faster runnin speed e.g.Lampard doesnt dribble often but he is way 2 slow in the game
unlimited uniform and face data slots it is down to the ps3/xbox harddrive
more ralistic injuries e.g. head injuries
weather effect players e.g. heat and pitch conditions
Jostling for the ball and barging
EDIT MODE: pre-set faces from from previous pes e.g. pes 2010 unlock ronaldo (o fenomeno) instead of crappy scanned face use preset face
alternative kit
able to use preset faces and hair
able to change league and cup logos and put them on the arms of shirts
logos and badges on shorts and socks
more detailed kits e.g. stitching
Under armour(under shirt) e.g. rooney wears in the winter
goggles 4 wen u unlock edgar davids or want 2 use them
more vital commentating e.g. last minute winners
more of a roar fro the crowd wen you score
Edit cup
show cup final trophy ceremony agen not only in the champions league
MASTER LEAGUE/Become an leagend
more interaction with the press and make decisions that may effect your team for the good or the bad able to hire more staff
interviews
able to play training
obstacles that you have to work your way around in BAL
more intense drama with rivalries and races to the top 4 or the 1st place
overall more intense drama
able to use sponserships in master leauge around the stadium and kits
get sponsors in becom a legend
more effective tactics that can change a whole game
varied free kicks and maybe a new system
more spaces for created teams and unlimited emblem spaces
match build up intensity e.g. derbies
show fans reactions and they are in team kits
more than 64 track added to KONAMI_PES for team chants if possible
and i think thats about it if ne 1 wants 2 add or comment on something then feel free bcoz som points may not be important and u have got a betta point
;)
I want back formation system which was in PES 2009 and all the previous PES - if I should be honest - I don't understand why they changed it... :(
It was so easy - I was able to choose formation what I wanted in few seconds, but now I need to edit majority of positions to get what I want... :(
whitefrog
29-04-2010, 16:31
1) Goal keepers ALWAYS win aerial attacks or low crosses into the box.
2) I would also like to see the old 'Copy Base Player' back. So when i create a new team I can build from an existing character rather than have to go through all the facial features and attributes from scratch.
3) PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ditch that AI programming that reduces the skill of my players (or increases the opponents) when i am ahead. No way would Messi miss an open goal or Torres spoon a shot miles off target!
little-messi9
01-05-2010, 10:35
celebration style will be good just like fifa
more tricks
improvie the edit mode
and improve the be a pro style
all the others said everything
maddog1983
03-05-2010, 13:17
Penalties. I hate how often players go down in the box and no foul given. Plus the camera for penalties sucks! It is so shit. I also think the stats side of the game should be better. Stats for clean sheets, appearances and goals scored that are easier to find rather than the current way. Change the formation settings back to previous versions. Maybe get rid of some of these reused stadiums that we see every year and bring in some new ones. I love Old trafford and Anfield and the Nou Camp but what about bring in more types of stadia. Plus I would love to see The Bundesliga in the game. Now if license issues don't allow this I would be happy with fake team names and fake players because the pes world will update them very quickly. Maybe bring in Championship in England and expand the amount of playable teams beyond the current same old teams we have had for years. This years CL license and Europa license has helped but can still have more!
I have been playing Pes since Pes existed and it needs to start delivering on some much promised improvements. I am really wanting a PES 6 style game on the PS3 console. Is that too much to ask?
The_whisper
05-05-2010, 09:43
With all due respect KONAMI, the Demo version of PES 2010 FELT much better than the final game. Here is my picks for my PS3 version:
- If possible, please include a game speed option in PES 2011. Sometimes my games, especially when I play 5 in a row, become unplayable due to EXTREMELY HIGH PASSING and RUNNING SPEED. Believe me, the demo was just the right speed, I loved it so much I couldn`t wait for the final code. But I was dissappointed by the upped game speed.
-Please sort out the REFEREE situation. I have played 10+ seasons of master league and I have only been given 4 PENALTIES !!!. I have been fouled on more than 400 times in the box.
My final word is no complain. I love PES 2010, more than any other game, but PLEASE SLOW DOWN the GAMEPLAY. LET IT BE HEAVY. or at least make options for guys like me who wants realistic paced football. I hate it when it feels like I`m playing ping pong after some games. PLEASE SLOW IT DOWN. PLEASE !!!
PS, as it stands, the PS3 coding is becoming easier and easier by new coding ways, please use the SPUs to correct the framerate related issues on the PS3 version. It has so much power and you guys don`t use it. Instead you port it.
Thanks
richardwells
07-05-2010, 05:13
new ideas for pes 2011
new stadiums like ibrox, celtic park, stamford bridge, emirates stadium, hampden park
mr seabass the biggest derby in the world is rangers vs celtic its the most brilliant football match you will ever see in your life i recommend you watch one mr seabass so please have rangers home stadium ibrox and celtics home stadium celtic park in your pes 2011 i would love it so much
rangers vs celtic
mr seabass please can you put rangers and celtics home stadiums in pes 2011 as you must know rangers vs celtic is the best derby in the world and i would love and so would all rangers and celtic fans around the world to see our stadiums in pes 2011 as pes is lacking new stadiums please make these stadiums your number one choice thank you mr seabass
if pes 2011 gets rangers and celtics home stadiums i can tell you now that pes 2011 will destroy fifa 11 attempts and thats a fact !!!!!!
new leagues and new mastel league features ideas
hi mr seabass i know that you have new leagues in pes 2011 and i was just wondering if you could add the spl which is the scottish premier league
and could you guys at pes productions bring back the good elements in master league like when you bought new players it showed you your new player holding up his new teams top and it showed you your team training and your players at press confrences if you could bring back that into the master league that would be great thanks mr seabass
new stadias
ibrox stadium, celtic park, emirates stadium, stamford bridge, hampden park, goodison park, manchester stadium, st james park, tynecastle stadium, easter road stadium, tannadice park, fir park stadium, pittodrie stadium, and many more all of these stadiums are for pes 2011 ideas
these stadiums belong to rangers football club (ibrox) celtic football club (celtic park) arsenal (emirates stadium) stamford bridge ( chelsea) scotland national team (hampden park) everton (goodison park) manchester city (manchester stadium) newcastle united (st james park) hearts football club (tynecastle stadium) hibernian football club (easter road stadium) dundee united (tannadice park) motherwell football club (fir park stadium) aberdeen football club (pittodrie stadium) thanks for listen to my ideas konami and mr seabass i hope these stadiums will be in pes 2011 especially ibrox and celtic park bye!!!!!!!
absolutly ibrox and celtic park in pes 2011 please mr seabass
JasonTuam
21-05-2010, 10:05
I think the most important is to change the players emotion...they lack of exciting celebration...pls be more realistic.....and the ref...yea...juz like tat guy said....be real...miss sum foul sumtimes when it was offside...even noe their having ET +2 minutes...and the fake fans where their sitting on the stadium..make them stand when you're going for a goal... then when you're scored a goal...make more movement for the fans....make it more real too!!! coz it will change the whole enviroment.....and lastly I want some exciting commentator.....even noe is was going 4 a goal kick!!!:happy:
Mr.Seabass there were lot of options and futures in pes 6 but after years it seems like you guys took things out from the new PES version I don't know why!?
here are the list of things i want to see in PES 2011:
1. Real camera angels just like real matches from gameplay to penalties, outs, substitution and injuries and from the photos and videos of pes 2011 i see you guys making some progress in that which is very good.
2. Adding weather effect on camera lenses like when you play a match in a rainy day you will see a little water drops on the camera lens
3. In the cold weather you should see cold breath coming from players mouth just like PES 6 and maybe you should see some reactions from players when they play in different weathers and i want to see players sweat and please bring back the SNOW weather.
4. Players kit shirt and shorts depending on different weathers should get wet, dirty and get grass stains.
5. More Hair style options in edit mode for players.
6. bring back Stadium preview just like pes 6.
7. Please change the right stick option on the controller which is for pass to dribbling and players special moves i think you must do this because it was unnecessary to have another option for pass.
PRESS CONFERENCES IN MASTER LEAGUE AFTER EVERY MATCH! which affects morale of the players . you coul be questioned about players on your scout list and other transfer topics. you could also comment on the teams performance.
Joey Tribbiani
03-07-2010, 18:15
One thing that has just come to my attention, after playing a lot of PES recently, is that players pull off tricks for no reason sometimes even when you're only using the left stick.
It really annoys me how my player will all of a sudden to a roulette, when I simply wanted to change direction quickly.
The left analogue stick should be for basic movement, the right stick for tricks, the d-pad for tactical changes/formation changes.
Also, give the player the option of picking the ball up with the keeper, to timewaste by waiting for an opposition player to close the keeper down, before picking the ball up. This happens a lot, particularly in international football. This could also result in indirect free-kicks inside the area, after a pass-back with a mad scramble to clear the ball. These rarely happen in football, but when they do are real entertainment, and would add to the realism of the game in my opinion.
liltomdem
02-08-2010, 15:36
sometimes it was fustrating playing pes2010 as i felt the game is one thing short from being better than fifa. I believe pro shoudl do what fifa did over the past 3 years and copy sum aspects of fifa. For example the way the players perform skills and more defensive stats like standing tackle, slide tackling and marking and first touch. Players animations should be better overall aswell not just the graphics but the way they move sometimes it can look awkward. AND PLEASE BRING BACK CLOSE CONTROL frm previous pes versions not the SLOW control on this one because on this one only the fast players are good at dribbling.
ideas for transfer options in Master league:
1. player exchange, contract details (duration, salary, number, aux clauses), offer your player to another club...
2. direct negotiations to avoid transfer fail
3. goal celebration: take off shirt option :)
MultiSoccerWo
05-08-2010, 21:31
pes 11 news fifa11 news screenshots trailers Article on a site http://multisoccerworld.webs.com/
fokuspokus
18-08-2010, 14:27
I dont know if this thread contains the SUGGESTION I want, but here it goes:
ON/OFF for REPLY! It is really annoying and its stopping the game! Its annoying to press the START button all the time..
Mix uniform parts within home and away kits.
Some PES ago I remember we had the chance to use for example the away socks with the home kit, it was very helpful when kits from both teams get some confusing, I would like to have this option again.
roblucci
16-09-2010, 23:22
Mr SEABASS PLEASE HEAR MY SUGGESTION:
For PES 2012 I WANT BALL AND PLAYERS MOVEMENT ARE MOTION CAPTURED TOGETHER,BETTER PLAYERS COALITION,BETTER CLOSED CONTROL LIKE OLD PES BUT WITH REAL ANIMATION AND CHELSEA IS FULLY LISENCED. [/B]
macedoneli
17-09-2010, 14:23
Hello
i want to say my opinion about PES 11 DEMO. i'm playing pes from the first series. when i saw pictures of Côte d'Ivoire players i was so happy that graphic of athletic, body was so improved.
will pes 2011 full version improved graphically ? i think you lost about quality, faces is same and etc.
please see this pic's
http://s7.directupload.net/images/100601/rqvlesa4.jpg
http://peskomment.ru/_ph/8/90512106.jpg
will players like this in PES 2011 FULL VERSION ???
thanks
SchmidtXC
21-10-2010, 16:18
Get rid of the GP's or give offline games the same weight as online games. I used to hate having to play 7 game tournaments to unlock classic teams before entering master league, now i have to play 30 at 10 GP each to unlock teams it used to take me 7 to do. If I want to unlock all of the classic players by playing offline games, I now have to play 370 games!!! The number is dropped to a still ridiculous 74 online games, but with a lousy internet connection this isn't an option for me. Is it really too much to ask to be able to fully experience the mode I bought the game for without playing almost 400 games first?
alp-pacino
14-11-2010, 12:04
konami just need to get a life stop making stupid things like these samurai heads honestly its 2011 what are we gonna do with these stupid heads! infact whoever came up with it should be sued then shot for thinking such a thing would appeal.. they should do a poll on how many people actually use it!
roblucci
29-11-2010, 12:51
I think KONAMI will never hear my suggestion of making this game with combination of players and ball real movement.
roblucci
29-11-2010, 13:03
Hey guys over there, how about we stop giving suggestions here since KONAMI will never listen to any ideas that will make its football game better and loses to crappy EA SPORT forever .
nikole.957
22-12-2010, 07:22
i think the red, orange, green, blue and white arrows aren't needed anymore, they are too random and dont do justice to how well a players playing. id like to see a combination of bars that can relate to how well the player is playing to their potential like "match fitness" and "confidence" that shows how well the player is playing.
the special abilities also are too general, i find that these stats dont differentiate between good and world class players. could we have an option of having a different level of special ability stars
PES has lacked a depth of injuries the only way a player can be injured is through getting tackled, what about training injuries and the likes of michael owen who got hamstring injuries everytime he ran. i feel that "injury proneness" doesnt justify this. i would like to see something along the lines of "tackle endurance" which could be how well a player copes with being kicked about, and then "injury proneness" could be included as a how likely a player is to pick up an injury through other means like owen getting hamstring injuries all the time
You would think they could make it easier to edit the teams on the pc platform.
Football manager has grown as its easier to modify. In fact most games that on the pc that have done really well have catered for people who like to modify.
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next pro - please include an option to turn off cut scenes and replays for those that wish to be able to do this. cheers
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1. GAMEPLAY
1.1. PHYSICS (weight of players, players need to interact with each other)
1.2. MANUAL PASSING (on both analogue and triangle and x button)
1.3. BETTER MANUAL SHOOTING (shooting is still to easy to master and aimed at five year olds with consistent play)
1.4. PACE (needs to be slowed down, manual passing would allow you to do this as in real football)
1.5. REFEREES Can be used real ones or at least four of them:
1- super ref, all choices right and never makes mistakes, collina JR.
2- hard ref- calles for every little foul and gives a penalty for a small shirt pulling in the box and goes hard with cards.
3- fluid ref- lets the game flow, doesnt call for every push like you have now, stopes the game only when neccesary and goes easy with cards.
4- realistic ref- a combination of the tough and easy refs, sometimes makes mistakes and sometimes makes good calles, can let offside sometimes.
1.6. CONFLICTS - we would like to see some konflikts during the matches (only once or twice in one season) Punching, headbutts, simulating and so.. It would bring some atmosfere to the most important matches
1.7. GOALKEEPERS - They have to be stronger in safes, there should be less chance to score goals from droped balls.
1.8. STAMINA - Players should collapse on the pitch after being to tired
1.9. MIX AND MATCH KITS - from PES 5
1.10 MATCH LENGHTS ( fully customisible mins )
1.11 GAME OPTIONS ( Golden goal, Silver goal, Penalties etc. )
1.12 PENALTY SYSTEM ( Improve system )
1.13 Momentum Shifts (Momentum Shifts should be affected by more aspects like team chemistry, then just randomized)
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2. GAMEMODES
2.1. MASTER LEAGUE - MORE LEAGUES, MORE DIVISIONS, MORE PLAYERS (FM is right example - no need for license), CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, SUPER CUP
2.2. TRAINING MODE - HOW IT USED TO BE IN PREVIOUS VERSIONS
2.3. ONE ON ONE LOADING - (FIFA)
2.4. PES SHOP
2.5. PENALTY MODE
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3. AI
3.1. DIFFICULTY
3.2. SCRIPTING (computer AI without the aid of scripting both for and against you. When you win on pes it feels like the computer has let you win.) SOLLUTION> FOUR OF US GENERALY AGREED, THAT IT SHOULD HAVE LESS EFFECT ON THE MATCH, NONE OF US IS HAPPY HOW IT IS AT THE MOMENT
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4. STATS AND LICENCES
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5. GRAPHICS - ANIMATIONS, STADIUMS, DRESS etc.
5.1. NEW ANIMATIONS FOR RUNNING
5.2. MORE STADIUMS FROM EPL ( Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U, Newcastle )
5.3. PITCHES CHOICES ( Depending on weather)
5.4. SNOW ( From PES 5 )
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6. SOUND
6.1. FULL NEXT-GEN COMENTARY (Working with stats, team names and so)
6.2. BRAZILIAN-SPANISH COMENTARY (Gol, Gol, Gol, Gooooooooooooolll!! :-) )
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7. EDITING
7.1. IN GAME STADIUM CREATOR, POSSIBILITY OF UNLIMITED STADIUMS
7.2. IN GAME SHOES AND BALLS STADIUM CREATOR
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8. GENERAL
8.1. MEMORY (Look at what made the ps1 and ps2 games so successful and advance on that)
As compiled by "jenicek68"
Also:
1. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.
2. I want more options for free kicks- instead of just having a second taker who can pass, kick and move away, I want a second taker that can do various thing- run and jump over the ball, deliver a deadly through pass.
Also, an option for two assistants who can jump over the ball, the trick where one pass, the second stops, and the thirs shoots.
Instead of just adjusting the amount of players in the wall and deciding whether they jump, run or stand, I have a totally different system.
My idea is that when there is a free kick called against you, you will have half a minute or so to put up your wall.
You will start with no one and you will have to decide how many people you want to put, where to put them and what they will do.
You could also have the option to change angels, like from the keeper's eye, and to hold the post for a better angle like in real life, so you can move the wall to either side.
Also, when the time is up (there will be like a small countdown clock), the ref will blow the whistle and the opponent can decide to wait for or to kick the ball when you're not ready (like Messi did a year ago).
This should be an option that you can decide to turn on and off.
I think this will be so cool against your friends, and just to have so much control will be great
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nikole.957
22-12-2010, 07:23
i think the red, orange, green, blue and white arrows aren't needed anymore, they are too random and dont do justice to how well a players playing. id like to see a combination of bars that can relate to how well the player is playing to their potential like "match fitness" and "confidence" that shows how well the player is playing.
the special abilities also are too general, i find that these stats dont differentiate between good and world class players. could we have an option of having a different level of special ability stars
PES has lacked a depth of injuries the only way a player can be injured is through getting tackled, what about training injuries and the likes of michael owen who got hamstring injuries everytime he ran. i feel that "injury proneness" doesnt justify this. i would like to see something along the lines of "tackle endurance" which could be how well a player copes with being kicked about, and then "injury proneness" could be included as a how likely a player is to pick up an injury through other means like owen getting hamstring injuries all the time
Thanks for sharing. It's geat
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03-01-2011, 00:27
I would like to see something I came across on an old footy game back in the days, can't really remember the name, but was on maga-drive.
How many real life matches do you see the players stroll off at full time, with kits as clean as when they walked on with.? So what I'm saying, is that the kits should become dirty when the player goes to ground, nothing OTT or anything, just something realistic..
Overall, I have to say all in all pes 2011 is a much improved version, not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but HAS to be the best footy title available right now.. Yes I could repeat many other comments about the game, such as goalkeepers, ridiculous defence AI etc etc..
Although It would also be great to be able to import png images in the edit mode (360), not to mention an updated edit mode, no dispespect to the current fantastic edit mode, but hasn't it been the same format etc for the last several pes releases right back to the ps2? (correct me if I'm wrong)
when online i would like to be able to see head to head statistics when you are waiting for the games to load, just simple things like played, won, lost, goals scored, conceded and highest score.
DigitalFootball
30-01-2011, 05:00
Please add an option to turn off cut scenes and replays. They can interfere with the game too much. I want to be able to play a match that resembles what I see when I go to the stadium. there are no replays and cut scenes there! :)
goatlegs
04-02-2011, 23:20
euro allstarr and world allstar teams back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 1111
St.Zwailla
13-02-2011, 08:32
Q. How long have you been playing PES?
A. Since 1996
Q. What are the aspects you like most about PES?
A. If you ask about old pes/we series then smooth and free gamepley.
Q What are the aspects that you don't like about PES?
A. In the new PES i dont like new gameplay,penalty system, new camera wide, pass, cross... and... well i dont like it at all.
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Bring back Winning Eleven 8 gameplay! Old camera -wide-, old penality, maybe to make petition?
Edit:
Just look at Mortal Kombat series, they tried something different and when they failed they realized that the old is what works best. PES 09/10/11 in gameplay cant come close to WE 8 ...
Some videos that can remind us of good old times. I had a blast with my friends back then... Just listen to chants and how game is ALIVE compared to new PES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xeg90NwMkk
Ideas & suggestions for PES 2012
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Please Konami, bring back the option to watch all the results of the games when playing in the community mode, bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has. (like in previous PES editions)
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving. Longer replays, to watch how the ball hits the ground, the net, bounces on the florr until it stops moving.
I hope Konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
Could you add regens under Master League/Become a Legend mode? As in rather than having existing players be reborn as 17 year olds when they retire, the game should generate new players every season (like what happens in every other sports game). Maybe each team has a youth academy or something, or if that's too much, just give each team one or two of these generated players every season as 16 year olds. And of course generate players from other countries not attached to one of the teams in the ML/BAL that you can buy. This by far is the biggest drawback for PES and FIFA...if they add in this feature I don't care what else they do to it, and if FIFA does it before PES I'm switching to FIFA for the time being.
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
Also have the option of watching the halftime scores or final scores of the other games even at halftime of your game. Please let the lopsided victories happen, I remember seeing in PES 2008 AND 2009 victories like 8-0, 9-0 when a good team faced a weak team. I even remember a 10-0 from Argentina to Trinidad in PES 2008. I'm talking about cpu vs cpu, when you play international league or community mode. Please KONAMI let these victories happen.
Smarteeeey
08-04-2011, 14:41
Here are my ideas for the PES 2012:
Edit mode:
Create a team - bring it back!
Generic teams - for the PES League and D2 teams, remove them. Instead make a generic league full of English teams, another one full of Spanish teams, etc... This is related to master league, It will make promotion to the top league much more interesting. The problem is that when you play in D2, as the English team, and get promoted to the English League, it just looks ridiculous as the other 2 promoted teams are foreign.
Master League Classic Players - I'm talking about Minanda, Castolo etc. Bring them on edit mode please, so I can put them on a team of my choice, or modify them a bit.
Player Attributes - Can you add extra ones like "Volley accuracy", "through ball accuracy", etc. Why? For example, in real life, a certain player might be absolutley useless at volleying, but can shoot the football off the ground really accurately.
I would also like to have an attribute labelled "Leadership", which identifies how good the player is at leading the team, giving orders, and how well the team listens to him. The bigger the leadership stat the player has, the better of a captain he is.
Player Index - Add a bigger variety for the player personality. All of them are pretty basic, and some of them like "Enforcer" or "Incisive Run" have absolutely no effect on the player's personality.
Team Kits - Have all the real teams licenced, and for the generic teams, build the kits so the teams all have different ones (all the teams in PES League and D2 have identical designs, just different colours.) to make it more realistic.
Make 3 outfield kits, and two goalkeeper kits (I'm talking about every team, not just generic ones)
Generic Player Names - The generic teams have player names which are pretty silly. I don't mind the occasional wierd name, but most of the players should have normal names.
Generic Team Location - I noticed that the licensed team in the game have their location shown on the map. If it's a generic team (or unlicensed), can you make it so I can place the location on the map? Makes it more realistic.
Generic Player Abilities - Give the generic players special abilities, the personality cards.
But one thing I noticed is that there are players which are overall 95 at the age of 20. It's unrealistic! The occasional 85 or 90 is okay, and if it's around 95 make sure the player is older than 26 years old.
Gameplay:
Most of the ideas have been mentionned by other players. Refereeing is pretty unfair, game speed, etc. But here are some more:
Animations - Make it so that players occassionally punch and headbutt each other over a bad tackle or something. Everytime the commentator says "Some players are having a right old go at each other!", all we see is two of them arguing, and the others holding them back. But make it so the fights only happen once or twice a season.
Bring more types of free kick and penalty animations, goal celebrations.
More tricks and skills.
AI - The AI needs to stop cheating! And also, I noticed when I'm near the corner flag and a player is infront of me, all he does is follow me. Make it so he can stick his foot out when I cross the ball. Also, make it so that the AI fouls more, gives away more penalties etc.
Basically, the AI defending needs to be more realistic.
Master League
Create A Team - Like PES 08, bring it back!
Negotiations - More realistic! In 5 seasons of master league I've seen Messi leave Barca for a D2 club. Sort it out!
Master League Original Players - Most of the players are rubbish, and all the good ones like Minanda or Castolo are over 35. Can you make them better and younger, please. I like the original players, but I would love them if you made them better and younger.
Gameplay
- Calm down with the scripting, its getting a bit silly now and in some ways its more obvious than the ps2 days.
- Full 360 ratio for manual passing
- Less assisted semi auto passing
- More control over through balls(power par is pretty redundant right now)
- Fully working manual player switch
- Players need to be more responsive when using the RT button to move around for air balls
- Tone down the pressure from the AI, or have pressure in stages
- More precise standing tackle, more responsive when timed perfectly
- Less automatic interventions, no auto clearance and more control over players movement, see forum member's Amateurs ideas he explains it better than me. The dribbling is on the right path but could be less on the rails.
- make an option for manual cross without having to use left trigger
- Improved spacial and overall awareness from AI team mates
- Don't mess with the shooting too much, more variation and emphasis on user input would be good, more variation in shot trajectory by use of the analog(ie pushing forward results in more top spin, a lighter touch loft and backspin this is in pes 11 to a small degree but could be taken further)
- Smoother transitions between animations such as close control and other dribbling and running motions
- Tone down the passing speed, more variation in passing speed depending on stats and user input
- More variations in physical play, do not go to fifa 11 standards as it will kill the game
- larger emphasis on midfield play, less constant pressure
Master League and other aesthetic details
- Improve the AI's intelligence when making transfers, avoid unrealistic transfers such as messi leaving barca all the time in ML
- Keep the scouting system, but let us manually input the transfer fee, more options for negotiation
- Add the ability to make cash plus player offers
- More focus on media in ML, ie mock news articles and a news hub
- Net editor or stadium specific nets
- Improve the atmosphere, chants don't have to be perfect but it feels a bit dead at the moment
- Improve the lighting and graphics for night games
- Flares and banners for leagues such as Serie A
- Bring back the snow, an overcast setting without rain.
some more ideas to do with gameplay....
- Remove auto clearance or have option to turn it off, nothing should happen unless I input a command, if a ball hits a defender the ball physics should account for this, I don't want to see the defender auto clearing it away even if does hep you in certain situations, I want to be in control of the stats.
The above goes for anything within the gameplay, no automatic interventions unless selected otherwise.
- This is the same sort of point as above, I'm tired of players heading the ball when I have another player selected. Too often on this game another AI player on my team heads the ball without me pressing anything, this needs to be gone for 2012.
Smarteeeey
09-04-2011, 08:17
There should also be a finesse shot button like in FIFA. I go for a one on one and the striker just smashes it at the keeper. For some reason you can only take a finesse shot from an angle, or when taking a penalty...
Also, the AI just seems to control my players. The AI makes my players slide tackle when I don't tell them to. This is really the same point as the person above, but it needs sorting out.
thenotsogood
25-04-2011, 18:15
- Enable a two yard pass to actually work. When I take a throw in I want to be able to give it back to the throw in taker, not gift the other team a throw in.
- Stop the defenders from being able to catch up so easily, I know people get peed off with speed demons online but seriously, what's the point of a speed attribute if it equates to nothing?
- Adding to that... Defenders can change the direction they're running in with minimal effort, I've made a turn qith a quick player on the ball and despite the defender taking an extra step, being statistically slower, and generally (and logically) reacting to the situation slower than my player, he still gets it off my feet before I can take my next touch.
- More slide tackle animations so I don't find myself going through people, I want the player to hook the ball of the player, not put him in hospital.
- Get some consistency with the keepers, one minute they can diving catch a Gerrard bullet but the next they flap at a ball rolling on the floor at walking pace?
- Simplify penalties. Sure, it's innovative, but it sucks. If you're going to change it because FIFA changed their's then keep it simple. If not, keep it the way it was. I also don't get how the penalty system changes depending on a penalty given from a foul, or a penalty shoot out.
- Speed up keepers distributing the ball, it kinda nullifies a counter attack when your keeper takes too long to get up, then turn around, and then slowly throw the ball to someone.
- Improve first touch control. I want my first touch to take me away from the defender, not into a whole group of them.
- Chesting the ball down: a sure fire way to give the ball away, sometimes they even chest the ball twice because the first one was so bad. This needs fixing, and it needs to tie in first touch control, too.
- And why the hell does a player have to overhead kick the ball so frickin' much? The ball comes at headheight and he overhead kicks it, pretty much always resulting in it flying over the bar. Just header the fucker!
- AI auto-shoot when you cross the ball into the box, why are they so shit with their accuracy? I know you see a sitter being missed week in week out, but if the AI takes over the shooting for that split-second I can't react... Why does it always fly over the bar or go wide? Even from the 6 yard box?
- And that said, why do reaction shots that I'm in control of always go to the keeper? Even though I'm aiming for the left of the goal when the keepers at the right, he'll place it right at the keeper. Very frustrating.
- Last one, I've noticed most clearances go straight to the feet of their own player whereas my clearances go anywhere I don't really want it to.
Wait, more...
-Team mates reacting to loose balls when you get tackled, they simply don't react quick enough yet their players are straight on it. In fact, your team mates will carry on their runs despite...
- ...Them not giving you a single option when you're on the ball. They'll often tease you by starting a run, and then stop just as they're about to make that defining step. Which sucks because you now have no-one to play in, and...
- ...The game is not designed for taking people on at all. Firstly there's the speed issue, and then there's the issue with...
- ...The jostle system totally biased to the AI. basically, if a defender latches onto you, you may as well just give them the ball. Not only that, they'll properly shove you off the ball and give no foul away. Which is fucked up because...
- ...Initiating a jostle usually ends up in you giving a free kick away. And just generally the referee not knowing the difference between winning the ball and going through a player.
- Oh, and often my players will take sometimes up to 3 extra touches before passing the ball, which 3 touches is usually how many you can take even if the defender is on the over side of the pitch.
Two more...
- I can't help but feel that the opposition defenders make an action depending on what button you press and not the animation you make. For instance, a defender just then should have been goalside on me, but as I pressed to turn away he moved in the same direction before me and took the ball off easily.
- And generally, when you're getting tackled, you seem to stumble all the time, and then do that shitty standing still thing where you can't try get the ball back.
Other general gripes...
- Player selection has to be majorly improved. Too many times I'm not allowed to select the player best suited to get the ball. And too many times the CPU auto selects someone, only to deselect them and choose someone further away. It's frustrating knowing that a player is going to get the ball quicker than the opposition to only be deselected and stop running, thus losing the ball for your team.
- So to sum that one up... Fix the auto select, and implement a more accurate way of selecting players. FIFA's right analogue stick seems to do the trick on this one.
- Diving headers. Players still manage to get this one so wrong despite having gallons of time. Yes, I just used capacity to desribe how much time they have. And even when they don't totally miss it like a spacker, they still manage to head it out of the box rather than into the goal.
- Your entire team staying in an offside position when you have a corner and play it back in after a clearance. I don't think I have to elaborate on this much. Fair enough one or two players, but six?
- Getting two yellows for winning the ball... And blatantly winning the ball at that.
the nameless
26-04-2011, 11:27
Also, the AI just seems to control my players. The AI makes my players slide tackle when I don't tell them to. This is really the same point as the person above, but it needs sorting out.
This MUST stop! My computer recently got my captain sent off by doing this. That is not "engineered for freedom" when the cpu does things wrong for you.
I have an idea I would like to share/propose to Konami. I know alot of people would not like it as it would break up the game a bit, but I would like be able to select a defender from the pause menu when the opposition have an attack. Far TOO MANY times, the computer have an attack and my highlighted player, when constantly pressing the change player button, flicks between 2 players behind the attacker, when I have players in front of the attacker just uselessly backing off. I can seldom ever catch them up, because players with 70's and low 80's for speed stats can always outpace my mid - high 90's players. I want to be able to choose to go my centre backs, rather than flicking between 2 AMF's.
I would also like to see the psychic defenders stop. They know when you are about to do a cut back, and defend it perfectly - even if they are as shit as titus bramble.
Also, in my master league, 17 teams play 4-5-1. It is boring, drab, and has zero variety. It has SEVERELEY dented my enjoyment of ML, and I'm just grinding out the 10 years trophy now. I may very well try it on a friends or rent 2012 because if it happens like that again, I wont want to play it, certainly not for 10 years, so I would like it to be more attacking - I wouldn't mind if I conceded 3 goals a games, as long as they dont just try to grind out 0-0's.
Lastly, please, bring back swap deals. Why did Konami get rid of them? They were a perfect way to manage on a small budget.
Back in the past i used to play Spurs' kick n rush n charge playing (missed you so my pes 6..) but with this game out, it completely ruins my style for good. i want my money worth it..i want an option so we can choose from the oldies and newest controlling style..i actually love the breaking move whenever you let go the button then the player slowly walks his way, moves his foot back and forth and sprint like mad when i press the sprint button.
Not this way when you go challenge a defender and say goodbye to your ball wholeheartedly easy..sad just sad.. please God hear my praying..
Back in the past i used to play Spurs' kick n rush n charge playing (missed you so my pes 6..) but with this game out, it completely ruins my style for good. i want my money worth it..i want an option so we can choose from the oldies and newest controlling style..i actually love the breaking move whenever you let go the button then the player slowly walks his way, moves his foot back and forth and sprint like mad when i press the sprint button.
Not this way when you go challenge a defender and say goodbye to your ball wholeheartedly easy..sad just sad.. please God hear my praying..
yeah, you can't stop and take a defender on, they'll just run at you and win the ball which makes wingers pretty useless in the game unless you pass to them in space and they're clear to make a run.
in pes 2012 they should look at how they did it in pes 6.
gameplay is too fast paced even on the slowest setting - the only reason why barcelona are tricky on top player are because they pass the ball around so fast. the AI's attack is always the same - they barely try any long balls or any variety to their play, just gets boring.
as many people have said, the game needs better ball physics and the animations still need lots of work. i think that could make a big difference in the feel of the game if they were improved, similar to fifa's.
also, the sound effects - heading the ball doesn't sound right and sounds too loud, same with kicking - you can barely hear the ball being kicked at all when watching an actual match. the crowd atmosphere sounds dead half of the time as well.
i also agree with what people have said about the lobbed through balls - there's no option to trap it or control it, the player who's chasing it just watches the ball bounce along even if it's about to go out of play.
Another thing that is frustrating is how if a player is jostling with you and you try and pass the ball, he always stumbles and falls over and makes a weak pass which goes about 2 yards and is intercepted. same if you want to shoot- the ball always goes floating over the crossbar at about 2 mph - unrealistic.
Please Konami, bring back the option to watch the final scores of all the games when playing in the community mode(or bring back the option of playing in the league mode with national teams), bring back the option to watch the statistics of how many yellow & red cards each team has.
And please let the replays be complete to watch the whole movement of the ball, until it stops moving.
I hope konami takes into account my suggestions.
Thank you
Another good idea would be to bring back the option of watching all the halftime scores, I think it was in PES 2008 where you could do that. That was a cool thing to do, because while you were at HT you could watch other halftime scores or even one or twoo final scores, for me that was a great option and made it feel more real. Please KONAMI take into account the suggestions
Konami please let the lopsided victories happen again, just like in pes 2008, where tou could see 8-0, 9-0 and even i saw a 10-0 from argentina to trinidad and tobago please bring lopsided victories back
mikewatts
15-05-2011, 14:15
Few things absolutely wreck the game, simply:
- Ai is stupid. absolutely stupid. attacking they are sterile and boring, defending its like their aim is to score own goals.
- the strategy of literally running down the wings and triple tapping B should not be a strategy in itself, especially when you are hoping mostly for an own goal to occur. There is far too much emphasis placed upon running down the wing and crossing anyway in this game, given the shooting system being so flawed.
- Quick players should be quick. It is so frustrating getting caught up by some slow terrible defender even off the ball.
- Shooting is just terrible - random, incomprehensible and frustrating. you lightly tap shoot, it sales over the bar - from any position. or it will crawl along the ground, or it will sale top corner. Konami, take a second and make the power bar actually mean something.
So many things were great about previous versions that have gotten rid of, such as the shooting.
- Penalties - just make it simple for god's sake - 8 directions, press shoot to hit it. none of this match deciding, terrible missess/saves/angles during the match.
- referees, just jog on. terrible decision after terrible decision. no consistency.
- I'd like the unlocking points system to be a bit kinder - like there are so many extras on the current game (funny heads etc) that no one is going to unlock as the points are better used on unlocking teams/players. Make it a separate points system or something, and make it easier to amount points.
all i have right now..
also, replays - we dont need a 40 second look back - just let us see the shot. or last 5 seconds. Or let us control the replays.
also, first touch is sluggish and annoyingly bad from even the best players.
also throw ins - terrible.
Spooky_Goth
31-05-2011, 07:54
I agree with your point on the AI, Its far too easy to beat with simple strategy, maybe a higher difficulty level could fix this?
I agree that refs make some bad calls...I think Konami have already said their looking into the whole foul/tackle area for smoother gameplay in future installments...hopefully this will rub off on how the refs judge the game.
Shooting feels no different to me than past PES games...
You want quick players to be quicker? How much faster do players like Messi and Arshavin need to be? They have more than enough pace to beat defenders/pull away from them
The rest of the points would cause the PES series to regress! 5 second reply? whats the point in even having one then? Also the penalty system (although I found it difficult at first) is actually a miles better improvement because it actually takes skill and you have to think about where to place the ball. Perhaps it should be made easier for the keeper to save the ball but that's about it.
How could throw ins be improved more? Now you can control exactly how far/where you throw with ANY player (in past games you needed long throw ability to throw the ball far without delay)
Free kicks on the other hand are a general lottery (I think I've scored about 3 in total since I bought the game in the first week of its release and that's coming from someone who plays almost daily)
In my opinion if you want better gameplay from PES then work needs to be done around player movement. I'd like to see players fight and jostle for the ball, ride though some of the weaker tackles, have more realistic collisions.
Spooky_Goth
31-05-2011, 08:28
Also I forgot to mention that I'm sick of seeing players waddling around the pitch instead of sprinting, (Yes Konami the running mechanic needs to be reviewed) also I find that the ball sometimes magically glides to a players feet after sending in a through ball that's being heavily contested. Don't get me wrong, PES 2011 is a giant return to form, but PES 2012 needs to be 2011 (as it should have been e.g without all the bad ref calls, poor AI) and new innovative features that are nailed FIRST TIME ROUND. Even if it means releasing much later than Fifa its better to do that and produce an undisputed better game.
The Eristic
02-06-2011, 10:55
Konami, in Master League, let us negotiate with players based on the projected size of our squad at the opening of the next transfer window, not based on current size. If my squad is maxed out, but I've managed to sell five players who will leave once the forthcoming window opens, I am not allowed bid for replacements until the said window arrives and the sold players are removed from my squad. I wind up missing out on important targets every single season due to being forced to just wait and watch my opposition snag almost every player on my scout list! It's a serious problem!
Also, let us field multiple offers for our players simultaneously, like in the old days, and don't stretch the process with redundant features. When there are several teams in contact, there is no reason why I should have to wait weeks, even months to view a single offer, reject it, then be informed the next half-week that "negotiations have broken down" (no kidding, I made them break down! Did you really need to use an entire time unit to tell me what I did a button click or two previously?), which nullifies any other transfer activity regarding that player for that half-week. If I reject an offer, it should be discarded the instant I do so, allowing other offers to be considered as soon as I progress the time.
These are some of the points I've been concerned with over my copy of PES 2011:
The game needs a collision engine just like FIFA 12 has, I was watching
(This is the video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ogRWQkfwo), the realism I've seen there is amazing, and then I looked at PES back in frustration, seeing as we see the same pre-recorded animations everytime we're fouled/we make a foul.
Injuries, better animation, and add random injuries every so often, but don't make them just stay there and making the same knee-grabbing animation, watch another video: (Here, starting at approximately 7:34) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfn3j4EZbeI)
More camera options, the current TV one isn't real at all, the normal TV has some close ups to the players fighting for the ball either too far away in the field or too close to the camera.
More weather conditions, such as snow and thunderstorm, heavy rain or light rain, cloudy weather or seeing barely any clouds, and if you're gonna add this, add a random option so the weather might vary during the match or not.
We need fights. Fights happen in real life, and the referee issues a red card to the one who initiated the quarrel.
Coaches can complain to the referees if they're close to them, but if they get too noisy, they get expelled by the referee.
If we're watching a spectator match and entering in extra time, show the fourth referee lifting the sign indicating how many minutes added we will have.
IN SPECTATOR MATCH: Every so often, a camera will show how the coaches see the match. Are they sitting? Are they calm? Are they spurting out orders? Also, not everyone wears a tuxedo. If an important match ends in victory (like winning a final), the coach and the rest of the substitute players jump out into the field and celebrate with the winners.
Bring back the old penalty camera, but keep the current system.
More scoreboards. (And flags that adjust to that scoreboard, for example, a circle for a 2002-WC-like scoreboard, the style the flags had in the 2010 WC)
Allowance to choose the time the match starts at (The range varying between 11AM and 9PM), if the match starts late at the afternoon, make it so that sky gets darker with time, being completely at night by the time the match finishes, that'd add impressive realism.
Become a Legend: AI, it has gone back to 2009 levels, on which it was frustratingly bad for every team you were on, they'd clear it out without even watching if there was somebody free to get the ball, and make stupid passes that the rival easily steals.
Copa Libertadores: Make the teams available for every mode.
Community/Cup: Allow an option to be an spectator of the Cup, watching every match without having to interfere.
Community/Cup: This is something that bugged me to the very end once I made a Cup with 32 teams (and not playing, which is why I want that spectator thing), the order of the Third Place match and the FINALS. They were mixed. The finals should go first, not the third place match. Please change that.
Community/Cup: We don't play the Copa América like that. We have twelve teams playing in three groups of four, and they all play in a round robin. The first two teams of each group, plus the two best thirds advance to the quarter finals, then the semi-finals, and then the final. That's how we do it.
Community/Cup: If you lose any chance to continue in the Cup, make a pop up appear and ask you if you want to see how the rest of the Cup unfolds.
Master League/World Cup: "Live" score, while your team plays a match, a tiny pop up at the bottom right corner of the screen will show which team just scored and who did it, that'd add realism to simultaneous matches, especially in the last match of the group stage of the World Cup, on which all of the teams in the group play at the same time, you might have a team that desperately needs the other match that's playing favourable, and you NEED to know how the match is going. That way you don't need to wait until the end of the match to see.
Stadium Creator: More options.
Create your team: We need one.
Commentaries: We need better of them, we need a wider gamma so we can feel we're actually watching a game.
Shirts: If it's rainy, make them wet, same (but not as wet) if the players are sweating after running too much, if they're playing in mud (rain), add it to the shirt.
Shirts: Wider selection of options, I'm tired of seeing the same patterns in seven years.
Anthems: We need more of them.
Presentation pre-game: Make them either do what they do in this edition, shaking hands between each other in a row, make them have a group picture.
Post-game: Make some players switch their shirts as they walk out, talking friendly and patting each other's back. If there was a team without luck (missing pretty much every shot), make them likely to start a fight (not too often), and make everyone participate in it (while quite some of them try to hold back the enraged partners).
If team is playing bad: (Rarely) Make a camera show an enraged fan who is probably trying to start a fight or throwing several stuff into the field, the match stops for a bit until they pick up what the guy threw.
Extra time: If the game is stopped for quite a while during extra time, the fourth referee may add another minute or minutes he deems necessary.
Training: Challenges for us to pass, we need to shoot at the top-right corner of the goal post amongst several others.
Hair: Its bouncing is really unnatural, and the selections aren't wide enough, and they all look flat and lifeless. We need more hairstyles and a better presentation of them.
Blood: If the player has been hit with, let's say, an elbow in his nose, he should start bleeding and require immediate medic action (the medics need to enter the pitch, so we need them).
Bicycle kick: They happen too often, they happen too bad. When a ball gets out of the rectangle and goes to an attacker, he shouldn't flip and shoot all the time.
Hand: If a player touches the ball with his hands and is not the goalkeeper, there should be a foul and a yellow card for the infractor (red if the guy has a yellow one already), same goes for the goalkeeper if he is out of his limits.
Attendants: Make it selectable again.
Those are some of my suggestions I'd do to improve this game.
Bammers05
03-06-2011, 20:30
If team is playing bad: (Rarely) Make a camera show an enraged fan who is probably trying to start a fight or throwing several stuff into the field, the match stops for a bit until they pick up what the guy threw.
:lol: I'd love it if they added this.
Ali_BWFC
03-06-2011, 20:40
^^Does this happen a lot in Uruguay?? :shocking:
It sadly does. So I guess it would be a great addition.
The Eristic
04-06-2011, 05:47
:lol: I'd love it if they added this.
Would be even better if you could make a player tackle the invader, then be sent off for violent conduct. :^D
We need a revamp of the set pieces in the game, the free kicks are great in terms of not just being able to smash it in every time, making the few you do score feel special but i think attacking set pices needs to re thought, i can pick who i want to go up (only defenders though) i should be able to design the set pices, allow me to pick where the players will stand and will run, this would open up a whole new world of opportunities from set pieces and give us more diversity.
At the moment from a corner the players runs are random, they line up the same way for most corners, if we could edit simple things like this it would give us a new dimension and a new challenge. In real life certain teams spend hours working on set pieces in trianing because they are game changers, a team such as stoke will score a decent amount of goals from dead ball situations because they mix them up and create situations that are difficult to defend, if the computer programmed that i would find it much more enjoyable to the dull and boring set pieces already in place.
Another problem is if I get a free kick around the half way line, instead of being able to float it into the box my players will line up about half way from the box and the half way line, this DOES NOT happen in real life, most teams will try to create space in that area by forcing the oppsition back into their own box. We should have a choice if we want to send our players in for a long ball or if we wnat to play it short, Iv been calling for this change for a while now, even before FIFA implemented a set piece editor, even if i saw some slight improvements id be happy but i honestly think they need a revamp to allow more freedom...
Jose Mourinho
29-07-2011, 16:00
All in all i feel konami has almost perfected the pro evo experience .. jus a couple of things tht need tweeking .. I am a die hard pro evo fan since the first one .. Here are my issues ;
- Penalty mode - its is very difficult to control the outcome of penalties .. this has made a huge impact on the overall gameplay ..
- Shooting - it is nearly perfected , but there could be dimensions added towards the shooting .. curling or swerving the ball round the post this is a feature i realised does not exist , it does though with fifa .. the ability to score from a long range obviously only lies with specifics players .. but this area could be improved upon ...
I must congratulate konami on delivering the ultimate footballing experience through the art of graphics .. :D
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roblucci
03-08-2011, 22:53
Listen pes staffs!!this is my suggestion:realmad:
please cooperate with european developer or kojima studio(very reasonable) for the work of the latest motion capture tech to simulate real football movement in pes.(shit i don't think they would hear my good recommendation)
Lord Shrimpeh
30-08-2011, 20:33
Firstly I've owned all the Pro Evo's from the day they came out, that's circa £420 over the years so you can give this post a little look Konami! Mostly these are Master League suggestions, as that's what I mainly play.
I would like to see a cumulative goal tally (across all seasons and competitions) in Master League for each of my players (it was on Pro Evo 2008 only I think). Maybe a bit sad but it's nice to keep track of your players over seasons!
Players in Master League to not get quite so brilliant, that would be a massive change for the better. After about 4/5 seasons it's easy to get a player to 90-110 stats and they're unbeatable. Any player pretty much that is if you buy them young, please sort this out it'll add so much to the longevity of Master League!
Most realistic money transfers - you're getting better with this but I'd like to see it so players don't cost £60 million who aren't brilliant or haven't had many games.
More interesting ability curves - it happens a bit but more often players lose form temporarily or permanently.
Players refuse to sign contracts or want to leave for other teams - I know this could be infuriating but implemented right it could be fantastic! Only if they're treated badly though or an offer is refused from a big team - I know you tried this but there was a bug in 2011, if an offer was made for your player and you didn't want him to lose loyalty by rejecting it if you left it to time out he wasn't annoyed!
BAL quicker to get started without tons of matches running around like a headless chicken
Computer to score more goals - again getting better but sometimes there are still inexplicable misses
Penalties fixed, they were horrendous! Why not add a power bar?? Even some other aid for direction. And put the camera back behind the player (I've heard this has been done already though)
Don't start with amazing players in ML! Palmeri is the best defender in the game for some reason... don't hand him out on a plate in the youth team!
Better Division Two in Master League - I know there is a lack of teams but a small D2 is a bit pointless and promotions and relegations can be annoying.
Option to sort Master League leagues into real life leagues - OK you don't have licenses but how about having a setting where you can make Master League into English League, French League, Italian League, Spanish league. I like playing in proper leagues.
That'll do for now. Oh and improve shooting it was terrible in last one. No stupid wacking it over the bar for now apparent reason for a good stats player unless under pressure or at least make it very rare.
LuKaKu_TT
01-09-2011, 00:26
No jokes I saw John Terry in Toys 'R' Us a few weeks back in Woking, Course told him i loved him and he is a beeeaassstt of a lad I asked him whether he could speak to Chelsea about letting Konami license them in the game, he just laughed and said yeh why not mate i enjoy a bit of PES every now and again :w00t :w00t :w00t Best moment of my entire life. I was only going in to get my Little brother a Nerf Gun :tongue:
No jokes I saw John Terry in Toys 'R' Us a few weeks back in Woking, Course told him i loved him and he is a beeeaassstt of a lad I asked him whether he could speak to Chelsea about letting Konami license them in the game, he just laughed and said yeh why not mate i enjoy a bit of PES every now and again :w00t :w00t :w00t Best moment of my entire life. I was only going in to get my Little brother a Nerf Gun :tongue:
You should have told him how big a role model he is. Taking care of his teammates girlfriends.
Next time you see tell him he is overrated in the game. What an asshole.
LuKaKu_TT
04-09-2011, 11:44
You should have told him how big a role model he is. Taking care of his teammates girlfriends.
Next time you see tell him he is overrated in the game. What an asshole.
Why would i tell the England! and Chelsea captain that he is an Asshole ? oh big whoop he slept with Wayne bridges wife. So she had absolutely nothing to do with it it wasn't her fault? I think people that blame John Terry for the whole fiasco are just pathetic, and he was seperated from his wife at the time so she brought John over to talk to her and she asked him to give her one, not gunna say no. It's just the same as cheating on your girlfriend when you do it you don't give a f*ck you don't think about it being handed out to the press and then losing your captaincy for the national team. Wow i went on a bit maybe because Wayne bridge is the ass hole for not shaking his hand what a Twat :P
Alice748
13-11-2011, 04:30
I think this will be so cool against your friends, and just to have so much control will be great
http://www.changshengniaos.info/jh2.jpg
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Pokervriend
17-11-2011, 13:32
Hi Guys/Girls, Here are some additions I think would be fun/must be integrated in the game.
just like previous years I'm having great fun playing PES. There is -off course- always room for improvement, but I really think you made big progress in compare with PES 10 and 11. I have a few suggestions
1- What I would really love to see integrated in the game, is the possiblility to train on a smaller field. That you can play 7v7 on half a field, and 4v4 on 1/4 of a field or so. It should be possible to select the size of the pitch and the size of the goals. If you are able to play 4v4, you can learn the game so much faster (especially one-two's, dribbling and passing skills). 4v4 on a full pitch just isn't very exciting, since there is way to much space. Maye a good addition is a wall behind the goal when in free training. Now, when i'm practice my shots, every time I score or miss, it's a corner. It would be great if there was a big wall behind the goal, form cornerflag to cornerflag, so the balls just bounce back in the field..
2- I love the unlockable balls, especially the retro leather ones. Isn't it a good idea to insert those balls in online matches as well?
3- It is not really fair people get under the 70% restriction when their opponent disconnects or scores own goals. Should it not be so that u only get a warning when you yourself disconnects the game. Now, I play really careful when I lead 3-0, knowing there is a good chance the other player will disconnect if I score 1 or 2 more.
4- MOVING THE GOALKEEPER I do not know why, but apparently it is not possible to move your goalkeeper online. Strangely enough, this is no problem offline. Why would there be a difference? It is extremely annoying that opponents online can easely chip my keeper, or make a simple feint when he comes storming out. Can you please integrate the possibility to move the keeper online in the next Patch?
This MUST stop! My computer recently got my captain sent off by doing this. That is not "engineered for freedom" when the cpu does things wrong for you.
I have an idea I would like to share/propose to Konami. I know alot of people would not like it as it would break up the game a bit, but I would like be able to select a defender from the pause menu when the opposition have an attack. Far TOO MANY times, the computer have an attack and my highlighted player, when constantly pressing the change player button, flicks between 2 players behind the attacker, when I have players in front of the attacker just uselessly backing off. I can seldom ever catch them up, because players with 70's and low 80's for speed stats can always outpace my mid - high 90's players. I want to be able to choose to go my centre backs, rather than flicking between 2 AMF's.
I would also like to see the psychic defenders stop. They know when you are about to do a cut back, and defend it perfectly - even if they are as shit as titus bramble.
Also, in my master league, 17 teams play 4-5-1. It is boring, drab, and has zero variety. It has SEVERELEY dented my enjoyment of ML, and I'm just grinding out the 10 years trophy now. I may very well try it on a friends or rent 2012 because if it happens like that again, I wont want to play it, certainly not for 10 years, so I would like it to be more attacking - I wouldn't mind if I conceded 3 goals a games, as long as they dont just try to grind out 0-0's.
Lastly, please, bring back swap deals. Why did Konami get rid of them? They were a perfect way to manage on a small budget.
Yes bring back the swap deals , it has been greatly missed!!!!
Respect to u nameless:cool:
Many of the ideas posted have thus far been pretty good. But a word on the presentation:
When we view players stats we should not have to fiddle around so many screens. PES has always displayed stats on a single long list which may it much easier to compare players. This was changed for 2012 to a new system that does not allow one to glance over quickly or make thought out comparisons over two players abilities.
Amend this for PES 2013 KONAMI.
Also why were wingback's taken out for 2012? In leagues like Italy some players are clearly neither fullbacks or wingers but are clearly distinguishable as WB's. I find it frustrating when I play ML with Udinese without the option to play their 3-5-2 without WB's. We should have a right to tactical choice and for me it was taken away in terms of formation.
richmiffy
26-11-2011, 12:30
I've got an idea, make the game good next time.
They should fix:
1. SPEED
2. DRIBBLING
3. GOAL KEEPING
4. MARKING
5. OFFSIDE STRATEGY
6. CURSOR
7. STAMINA
8. TACKLING AND SHOOTING
9. REFEREE
1. SPEED: PLAYERS ACCELERATE LIKE CRAZY, THIS SHOULD BE TUNED TO SLOW THE GAME PACE ONLINE TO WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AND REALISTIC. YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO SCRATCH YOUR HEAD, ITS ABOUT WHO CAN PRESS MORE BUTTONS AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POSSESSION OR STRATEGIES.
2. DRIBBLING: SO UNREALISTIC, QUICK, BALL CONTROL IS ELUSIVE. PLAYERS SEEM TO BE DANCING LEFT AND RIGHT GLIDING ON THE PITCH LIKE A DOLPHIN IN WATER, THIS IS NON SENSE.
3. GOAL KEEPING: POSITIONING AND SHOT BLOCKING REBOUNDS TO PUNCH THE BALL MOST OF THE TIMES INSTEAD OF HANDING IT TO THE OPPONENT FOR AN EASY GOAL EVERY FUCKING TIME.
4. MARKING: ESPECIALLY BALL INTERCEPTIONS, THROUGH BALL CUTTING, DEFENDERS SHOULD BE SMART AND NOT AS DUMB AS THIS SCIENCE FICTION JAPANESE GAME IS TURNING THEM TO BE. AGAIN NON SENSE AND FRUSTRATION.
5. OFFSIDE STRATEGY: FOR GOD SAKE WATCH THE PLAYERS PERFORM THE OFFSIDE TRAP LIKE AMATEURS... TOTALLY EMBARRASSING.
6. CURSOR: AM I SUPPOSE TO BE PLAYING THE GAME OR IS THE AI SUPPOSE TO PLAY MY GAME WHILE I WATCH? I DON'T GET IT!!! WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BOUND CURSOR WHERE PLAYERS MOVE AGAINST MY WILL ON EVERY OCCASION?
7. STAMINA AND FATIGUE: PLAYERS PRESS AND RUSH ALL GAME LONG LIKE MONKEYS WITHOUT GETTING TIRED, THEY EVEN PRESS THE KEEPER ON EVERY BALL... FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
8. TACKLING: TACKLING AND SHOOTING SHOULD BE TWEAKED... IN THIS FORM ITS A JOKE.
9. REFEREE: JUST RIDICULOUS... CHEAP PENALTIES AND CHEAP FOULS AND CHEAP MISSED FOULS.
ALL IN ALL, THIS GAME IS ABOUT PRESSING BUTTONS AND RUSHING LIKE SPEED MERCHANTS TO WIN A GAME. POSSESSION, MIDFIELD BUILDUP PLAY AND TACTICAL GAME HAVE NO VALUE WHATSOEVER... IN BRIEF THIS IS AN ARCADE GAME FOR KIDS AND NOT A SOCCER SIMULATION FOR SOCCER FANS. AGAIN... SEABASS DIE...
AND NEXT TIME YOU WILL NOT FOOL ME WITH YOUR RE-INVENTED MARKETING CAMPAIGN PRE RELEASE
Note to self Micho - don't post in all capitals again. It's straining on the eyes, and makes your post seem less credible, and more a rant rather than constructive criticism.
I thought I was reading a Viperized post :lol:
acostasold
19-12-2011, 02:50
I'd be glad to see Venezuelan football selection licensed, who had an amazing performance in Copa America 2011, and made and historic victory against Argentina.
I'd like to see less exagerated facial expressions, they look like monsters when they are celebrating, and a better sweat effect, because it's only been 2 minutes and they are already sweating.
A better shooting system and licensing the coaches of the teams, giving them preset faces.
And better goalkeepers, like in PES 2010, those goalkeeper animations in PES 2010 was amazingly realistic, not compared to PES 2012 that you can score without even shooting, you only have to do a small feint and the goalkeeper can't stop you because he fell, very awful.
Some sugestions:
Eliminate assisted passing or make the game for strategic to avoid the ping pong gameplay
When using full manual passing, crossing should be manual too
Shooting should be controlled by the player. Not necessarily 360 degress. But at least allow me to determine power and direction.
Too many fouls. Hearing referee whistle every ten seconds is driving me crazy
Dribbling: Less gliding, no superhuman stunts, reduced frequency of use by AI.
Go watch a real football match Konami:realmad:
Finally, try to kick a ball and compare it to the in-game stuff. The ball physics are completely shit.:shocking:
Thats all for now :lol:
gualivchenko
16-02-2012, 17:34
My suggestions:
* Players must have a progress bar with his condition on every move, so cheap player's can't run with C. Ronaldo all along the field... when the bar is over, the posesion must be erratic, and the bar for each player remains in time, at least for a few seconds to get better. I think this is very important for making the game more realistic.
* Improve 3d view, by let the arrows fix on camera movements. It's very hard to play with arrows dinamically changing. At least to have an opcion, and let us try it.
* Fix the "one second block" of players when I take the manual control with R1+R2.
* Please read this: the IA can't "predict" our movements by cheating, they must learn by himself. And they can't do what his players can't do... so if I play Barcelona against VVV Venlo, the IA can't score from a 30 mts free kick in the angle... it's just unreal. It happens a lot in legend mode.
Well Konami, Game-play! its all we want. All the talk of edit this and more leagues that. Rubbish! Make the game have responsive players, smooth passing, shots that fly with pace, a goalie that is capable and a ref that calls fouls, foot before ball, not ball before foot.
And oh yeah, if you cant get the commentary spot on, have them talk a little less and be more generic
Jace_River
10-05-2012, 16:23
The comentators for latinamerican spanish and spanish from spain... SUCKS. They NEVER say "goooool", they always say stupid things.
The passion. The people of the grade doesn't have passion. In the Copa Libertadores matchs, so as the finals (Worldcup, eurocup, Champions League, etc.) the people seems to be watching a training match between Islas Feroe NT and Islas Fero NT U-21. ¿Where are the color bengals? ¿The chants? ¿The little paiper pieces? ¿Why there are just 3 or 4 flags, and always the same?These things are vitals... Specially in the latin-american football.
¿What is going on with the latin-american players ability? ¡They are ALL bad! I never can't believe it, I remember than in the old PES for PS2 the River and Boca players always were bad, Paulo Ferrari was blond! And don't talk of the "other" things... Trezeguet and Cavenaghi are a SHAME, just as you did it. ¿The rest of the latin-american teams? All bad. Keko Villalva is named "Villalba", with B. Some players have a bad name and terrible habilites since the inclussion of the Copa Libertadores in the game, I can't believe you want to demostrate "Interest in latin-america" putting Neymar in the cover but never doing this things...
¡Put the snow back in PES games!
¿Why the players never get dirty or her hair never gets wet?
The rain is the same, always. It will be more realistic is, for example, the intensity goes up and down, or we begin a match with the skys covered by clouds and, in the 20m (for example), it begins to rain. The physics of the ball must be affected by this.
Well, the PES 2011 goalkeepers were acceptable in comparation with this, but you still got to improve their movements.
The coaches have 5, and just FIVE different movements in the entire game. And they always are dressed in the same way! I want to personalize it, can put it shirts, or t-shirts, another tuxedos... And more movements! Like Bielsa, or Guardiola, or Mourinho style!
Press conferences with options to response the periodists questions. And the answers will afect our players and the next rival players... Obviously, in Master League mode.
The referee are just a shame. They invent fouls and don't concede the truly ones. They gave advantage rule in the penaltys!
We want medical attention to the players, and REAL lessions. If the hit was in the arm, what the player tooks the arm with the another hand!
If in latin-america you got the mayor levels of sales... Why you never put attention to south-american leagues, teams, selections, or at least buy (or invent fake leagues) the leagues of our countries?
Sometimes the ball movement don't matchs with the player movement. In te penaltys, for example.
Better cinematics. The difference between clubs and National Teams... Well, without comentaries. And the players never looks between them, never interact.
Why is easily to buy Messi but Shaqiri in the Master League? It is supposed to the BASEL be a regular team and the Barcelona one of the betters of the world... I don't understand it.
THE PLAYERS COMPLAINT BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAY ONE MATCH. ONE! 1! HOW DID YOU SUPPOSE TO DO ROTATIONS IN THE ALINEATION IF THIS HAPPENS?
Why the referee never sees when a player touch the ball with the hand? Oh, I remember... BECAUSE THEY CAN'T. Fix that.
KONAMI
Please just make it possible to change sides during the game. In season mode and cup mode thats all i ask.
Many thanks
ps. pretty please!
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