View Full Version : Players bumping into each other and positioning
liverpoolsco
27-06-2009, 21:03
Currently in the game you can have players running into each other and bumping into each other. I mean players who are on the same team, not ones who are coming in for a tackle. This is really frustrating if your trying to run with a midfielder either through the middle of the park or bombing forward with a winger and you end up clattering into your own men. This would never happen in real life any really any level, especially not so regularly and to make them loose the ball. Its such a basic error but needs to be taken out. Also the same goes for when your bringing a fullback forward on a run down the wings and your winger is standing at the half way line getting in your way. The wingers don't move up the pitch like they should and just get in the way! They need to move there position with the play and be more inteligent about where there standing relative to the play.
How would this improve the game:
Fixing this problem and increasing the inteligence of positioning of players would great increase the enjoyment of the game and it would take an unrealistic element out of the game. How many times in a real match do you see two players from the same team flying into each other and the result being the ball is lost. This is espically bad when its in a defensive situation and leads to a goal. Sorting this positioning problem would just make the game feel more natural and just flow a whole lot better.
Agreed with the original poster. :)
The Eristic
28-06-2009, 08:02
Absolutely in agreement with the OP, especially the bit about wingers moving. They should be going at the opposing fullbacks, not just standing around or, even worse, trying to "mark" the opposition's wide men.
On a related note, if I have to run into the ref (or the ref run into me) at least once a game and lose the ball because of it (or be otherwise unable to complete a play or movement, on the ball or off), the CPU should suffer the same fate.
Well, every year KONAMI talks about dramatically improving the A.I but hope this time it really does have a dramatic overhaul.
Add the ref getting in the way. Happens alot to me :(
CryingGallas
28-06-2009, 14:36
Also in the game If the opposition CPU FULLBACK is running down the wing and your winger is tracking all of a sudden your fullback starts going towards the CPU FULLBACK leaving the CPU winger free. So the CPU fullback can easily pass to the CPU winger! Atrocious! Needs to be sorted. Does anyone get what this gangsta boy is saying! :)
Add the ref getting in the way. Happens alot to me :(
Sadly it happens in real life but not as much as in pes. Sp decrease the amount it happens but not remove it completly.:)
Dundon's
01-07-2009, 04:12
The big problem is that the players turn like buses, sharper and shorter animations are needed in general in order to get back that crisp feeling the game used to have.
The also need to redo all the player models from scratch in oder to lose the ogre image.
liverpoolsco
01-07-2009, 10:17
The big problem is that the players turn like buses, sharper and shorter animations are needed in general in order to get back that crisp feeling the game used to have.
The also need to redo all the player models from scratch in oder to lose the ogre image.
I have to disagree with you on this. As for turning I think that the turning is fine. As for feeling crisp I would say that more modern PES is more reactive than older PES. With that you had to leave a lot allowance for how tricky it was to control players. PES 2008 had very well controlled players but there were problems with that I suppose but that wasn't why I started this thread. I am more concerned than player positioning and players bumping into each other unrealistically. Look at this goal of the month and it would be really hard score a goal like this one Paul Scholes scores as the close control isn't as good in PES and you would end up knocking into someone and loosing the ball instead of being able to skillfully manouver around them!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us5tmDvhXu8&feature=related
As for feeling crisp I would say that more modern PES is more reactive than older PES. With that you had to leave a lot allowance for how tricky it was to control players.
Yeah, I cracked out the PES4 a couple of weeks ago, and the amount of time it takes for your players to react to a button press is shocking. FIFA has the same problem this year.
with what liverpoolsco said about players bumping into each other, it always annoys me when i get a shot on goal and when i shoot my teammate runs into the path of the shot a blocks it sometimes they act like the oppositions extra man on the pitch
liverpoolsco
06-07-2009, 10:03
Thanks for the positive responces to this. It does really wrile me and it just sems such a basic thing to keep players out of the way of each others... real people can do it so why not your players in PES!
Absolutely in agreement with the OP, especially the bit about wingers moving. They should be going at the opposing fullbacks, not just standing around or, even worse, trying to "mark" the opposition's wide men.
Agreed, I wrote the same thing in another post a day or two ago.
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