PES 2010 edit mode

[PESAM411]

Yo guys, havnt been on the forums in an AGE, only just remembered me password lol, urmmm..... after a long spell of FIFA 09 on the xbox i decided to gon on PES 09, for a change, only to find that i couldnt find it, later descovering that i had traded it in. However, i didnt want to go on pes 2008, and so i busted my dusty old PS2 for a change, and whacked in PES6, i as pleasently suprised, that all the squads were REALLY out of date and spent atleast 5 hours uptating everything on my option file.

... There is a point to this thread tand that point is ... the edit mode in PES6 was so much better than the current "next gen" consoles ones, and its only the little things, for example. Neck warmers,necklases,shirt tucked in or out, sock length, etc and also i waish to see a boot edit mode in PES 2010, just generally a more in depth edit mode really, just for all those nerdy geeks like me that spend more time in edit mode than actually playing the game ;), anyway ...

i just wanted your opinion on what you guys want in the 2010 edit mode, obv we want LOADS more boots right, and a boot edit mode. but yeah hit me back guys,

hope i havnt double posted

take it easy

[shankly is god]

i really like the edit mode in 09 mate on ps3...uploading .png instead of shitty pixel editing on prev games...just to improve the current one would be awesome

[dan80]

well i got my ps2 out the other day and played pes 6 was quite fun

[PESAM411]

i really like the edit mode in 09 mate on ps3...uploading .png instead of shitty pixel editing on prev games...just to improve the current one would be awesome


ye im kool that u like the current one but i mean the "character specific " options, aswell, i hate seeing messi or ronaldo with thier shirts tucked in looking all sophisticated :P, but yeah the ps3 abilty to upload the png files is awesome, just cant do it on xbox yet :(, ut im writing an angry letter to micrososft to make sure they get my message lol,

cheers for the post m8, take it easy

[shankly is god]

^ yes mate i like the edit on ps3 thats the only reason i didnt buy it for the 360..... but i get ya now man ive mentioned somewhere that player customization is shocking i would love to see a massive overhaul..

[PESAM411]

^ yes mate i like the edit on ps3 thats the only reason i didnt buy it for the 360..... but i get ya now man ive mentioned somewhere that player customization is shocking i would love to see a massive overhaul..

nice one man, "every little helps", u say uve got a 360 yourself ???, if so have u got online ???, lots of question marks seem to get answerss ???

laterz dude take it easy

[shankly is god]

nice one man, "every little helps", u say uve got a 360 yourself ???, if so have u got online ???, lots of question marks seem to get answerss ???

laterz dude take it easy

ha ha your crazy mate....yea i have live im Evil WINTERS add me if ya like dude

[PESAM411]

ha ha your crazy mate....yea i have live im Evil WINTERS add me if ya like dude

"they do call me crazy sam down at the club" nice one m8 ill add ya laterz

[CryingGallas]

They neeeeed to give us more options!

[PESAM411]

They neeeeed to give us more options!

ye man, now ur gettin it, we need more options, just more variety, i know it doesnt make a difference to the initial gameplay but it sure as hell makes a differnce to me :D thanks for the post man

[PesMaster1]

i thought the Pes 2009 for ps3 editing mode was pretty good , what do you mean by Varieties , what else can we have ?

[shankly is god]

things like editing shorts...the ability to put logo's onto the shorts and also socks...maybe boots say if you have a GF and may want to put her name on them lol

also tattoo's i would love to see as im a fan of the art work

[PesMaster1]

true i agree , also NEED more hairstyle and kit designs , like the aston villa kit design the thin stripes going across the kit

[CryingGallas]

i thought the Pes 2009 for ps3 editing mode was pretty good , what do you mean by Varieties , what else can we have ?

In my opinion, More options, more varieties means, allow us to be able do more things in Edit mode! Allow us to make or design the boots, more hairstyles, more this or that! The Kit styles avilable are sexually limited. You seriously just can't do anything on Edit mode! Pro 2009 wasn't bad but it can be so much more better it's not even funny! :no:

Even if they wanted they can update hairstyles and sh*t via online updates, that would be sooo sthuper-awsthome. Konami need to step up.

Why is it that we fans can see this but the production team can't! Has it really taken them 6-7 years or more to create the ultimate game! Well Pro 2010 better be the ultimate or I'm gonna be in bed with Fifa in October!

[PESAM411]

In my opinion, More options, more varieties means, allow us to be able do more things in Edit mode! Allow us to make or design the boots, more hairstyles, more this or that! The Kit styles avilable are sexually limited. You seriously just can't do anything on Edit mode! Pro 2009 wasn't bad but it can be so much more better it's not even funny! :no:

Even if they wanted they can update hairstyles and sh*t via online updates, that would be sooo sthuper-awsthome. Konami need to step up.

Why is it that we fans can see this but the production team can't! Has it really taken them 6-7 years or more to create the ultimate game! Well Pro 2010 better be the ultimate or I'm gonna be in bed with Fifa in October!

ye pretty much, i agree apart from the sexualness of the post :D, urm... y more variety i just mean more general options, i had another thought about boots:

If nike,adidas,puma,reebok etc have given konami the licence to use there boot designs then why not this idea.

imagine this:

you go into edit mode, you have an options menu :

EDIT PLAYER
EDIT TEAM
EDIT CUP OR LEAGUE NAME
EDIT STADIUM
EDIT BOOTS

now like in pes 5 and 6 you can enter the "EDIT BOOT" option from the list.
from here i think instead of 12 boot slots, maybe 22 or sumthing in the 20s.

BOOT TYPE 1
BOOT TYPE 2
ETC .... an so on

you have an option to choose which boots are in which slot, which then corresponds to the boots in the EDIT PLAYER section.

you decide to choose boot type one, you then have the option of :

ADIDAS
NIKE
PUMA
UMBRO
LOTTO etc

you then can shoose any of the licensed boots, or boot TEMPLATES
for example, under the NIKE section we should be able to shoose Nike Mercuiral Vapors, then choose whether we want the official ones created for the game OR customize them by manual settings in pes 5 and 6, just not the design, so maybe use the mercurial vapors and for example:

BOOT TYPE: NIKE
BOOT TEMPLATE: M.VAPOUR
BOOT MAIN COLOUR: (here is where you choose a colour from the colour chart like in edit mode)
BOOT ACCENT COLOR: (choose the colour of the accent or "secondary colour, using the colour chart)
LACES COLOUR: (etc)
and so on and so forth

i hope you guys under stand what i mean, by that, i got a wee bit confused myself, but yeah just the ability to create boots with licenced templates would be cool, aswell as player options like "SHIRT UNTUCKED" and NECK WARMERS, finger tape etc, make it as real as possible.

I WANT PINK TOTAL 90's GUYS
thanks again

[shankly is god]

ye pretty much, i agree apart from the sexualness of the post :D, urm... y more variety i just mean more general options, i had another thought about boots:

If nike,adidas,puma,reebok etc have given konami the licence to use there boot designs then why not this idea.

imagine this:

you go into edit mode, you have an options menu :

EDIT PLAYER
EDIT TEAM
EDIT CUP OR LEAGUE NAME
EDIT STADIUM
EDIT BOOTS

now like in pes 5 and 6 you can enter the "EDIT BOOT" option from the list.
from here i think instead of 12 boot slots, maybe 22 or sumthing in the 20s.

BOOT TYPE 1
BOOT TYPE 2
ETC .... an so on

you have an option to choose which boots are in which slot, which then corresponds to the boots in the EDIT PLAYER section.

you decide to choose boot type one, you then have the option of :

ADIDAS
NIKE
PUMA
UMBRO
LOTTO etc

you then can shoose any of the licensed boots, or boot TEMPLATES
for example, under the NIKE section we should be able to shoose Nike Mercuiral Vapors, then choose whether we want the official ones created for the game OR customize them by manual settings in pes 5 and 6, just not the design, so maybe use the mercurial vapors and for example:

BOOT TYPE: NIKE
BOOT TEMPLATE: M.VAPOUR
BOOT MAIN COLOUR: (here is where you choose a colour from the colour chart like in edit mode)
BOOT ACCENT COLOR: (choose the colour of the accent or "secondary colour, using the colour chart)
LACES COLOUR: (etc)
and so on and so forth

i hope you guys under stand what i mean, by that, i got a wee bit confused myself, but yeah just the ability to create boots with licenced templates would be cool, aswell as player options like "SHIRT UNTUCKED" and NECK WARMERS, finger tape etc, make it as real as possible.

I WANT PINK TOTAL 90's GUYS
thanks again

I love that idea bruv...is awesome but i doubt that amount of detail because i think konami would have a license to follow like only a certain color boot and things...but if you could edit kit better like beyern munich's kits

[PESAM411]

yeah i know its a slim idea but u know we gotta hope, if you dont ask you dont get aha laterz bruv

[dharminder91]

i agree but konami should also include an option in the edit mode where you could create and rechange stadiums and also you can create your own dream stadium which can be used on current teams or on the mastr lge.

[shankly is god]

^ would be a nice feature but too much for konami to handle i think....

[PESAM411]

i agree

[DM86]

i really like the edit mode in 09 mate on ps3...uploading .png instead of shitty pixel editing on prev games...just to improve the current one would be awesome


Totally dude, I just hope they allow us to edit the shorts and socks on the kits. Also I hope they revert back to the PES6 in allowing us to have default faces on our own custom players. eg. (if i wanted torres' face on my custom player, then I can or any other player for that matter)

With regard to boots, I wish they would just give us the boot templates. Obviously they might have some difficulty attaining the license for this idea. But surely you don't need a different license for each individual design of boot. I'd rather they just give us boot templates for each brand. Like the predator & adipure for Adidas and the vapour & urcurial for nike and we could edit the colour as we saw fit. Would be similar to the edit system on Fight Night Round 4 where you can pick your brand a style of shorts and then have your own colours.

[shankly is god]

Totally dude, I just hope they allow us to edit the shorts and socks on the kits. Also I hope they revert back to the PES6 in allowing us to have default faces on our own custom players. eg. (if i wanted torres' face on my custom player, then I can or any other player for that matter)

With regard to boots, I wish they would just give us the boot templates. Obviously they might have some difficulty attaining the license for this idea. But surely you don't need a different license for each individual design of boot. I'd rather they just give us boot templates for each brand. Like the predator & adipure for Adidas and the vapour & urcurial for nike and we could edit the colour as we saw fit. Would be similar to the edit system on Fight Night Round 4 where you can pick your brand a style of shorts and then have your own colours.


awesome point mate but again konami is known for putting in minimal content regarding balls and boots and stadiums.. if this year is different and they offer tons of content then your suggestion could be added....

it would be awesome if you could add ,pngs to balls and boots this year as long as you have the right layout for the skin that is....for me tho shorts and socks plus the option of tattoo's are what im hoping for

[PESAM411]

tatoos would be pretty nifty i guess, i just want xbox to give us png abillity :( (sad face)

[shankly is god]

they should do, i wouldnt see why they would favor one console over the other

[PESAM411]

(sad face) :(

[steveomilan]

for me they could keep the pes 2009 edit mode or go back to the pes6 on ps2 edit mode, just so long as they take out the licensed kits being blocked for future editing! that is the only real thing wrong. and maybe add a good boot and ball editor

[carreg]

i like the idea of tattoos that would be cool covering your whole body in tats

[Rob21C_UK]

for me they could keep the pes 2009 edit mode or go back to the pes6 on ps2 edit mode...

They've already mentioned you can have untucked shirts in 2010 which was last available in PES6 so hopefully the other things missing from the PES2009 edit mode that were in the PES6 edit mode are in too.

[serialmania]

I hope they would improve the edit mode in ps2 version. We need more boot,more hairstyle and such etc....

[shankly is god]

fifa did introduce tattoo's in their UT mode and it looked really cool...so hopefully they will add those into pes...but on a more important note shorts and socks need to be editable and boots

[Rob21C_UK]

but on a more important note shorts and socks need to be editable and boots

Should be a lot more options in the list like there are for strips. Isn't there only about 8 different types of sock design? :huh:

[shankly is god]

^^ yes but im not on about more "style" options i mean the ability to add .png files and .psd files etc to the short and socks.....

[Rob21C_UK]

^^ A combination of the two even. Have the game use as many png files as you need for the tops (the whole top not some choice of dodgy shaped template at the front), shorts, socks, balls and boots. Surely there's nothing EA can do to stop Konami giving us the option to import custom png files for these items.

[shankly is god]

^^ no there isnt EA have no power over them... i create custom designs for my teams anyway that do cover most of the body..but i am pissed of that when i create a fanatsy liverpool kit its only the shirt that gets to be modded...i really hope i can do the socks and shorts...the balls and boots would be awesome but highly doubtful...

[DM86]

I dunno why they can't add just blank shirts templates with the stitching & piping etc incorporated but leave off the logo, emblem cos we can put those on ourselves.

If you don't quite understand my vision.

Think of the Liverpool kit for example made by Adidas with the circles down the side of the torso and piping on the chest. They could programme in the circles and piping etc then allow us to put on the logo, emblem, kit sponsor ourselves. hey presto, licensing issue solved. As for the stripes. you could pick there usual templates like 1 stripe down the arm accompanied by a 2nd template of 2 wider stripes down the arm & there you have the 3 stripes of Adidas aswell.

This could be done for the shorts and socks aswell & before you know it, we would be able to customise real life kits wthout Konami getting busted for licencing issues.

Would defernately beat the options they give us aready as quoted above "(the whole top not some choice of dodgy shaped template at the front)"

It is pretty similar to my suggestion with the boots, but minus the logo's. I don't see why this is such an issue for a major game corporation & if someone does, the please enlighten me so I don't have to keep suffering with the thought in mind!!

[shankly is god]

^^ sounds good mate but you kno they wont...Liverpool FC and konami would see that as defacing something...but with the default teams they give us we could make those teams up anyway..i always do it i make liverpool and other teams fantasy kits, im just hoping for a bigger range of editing ability as the one in 2009 is good but you can tell its only a stepping stone.

[PESAM411]

i never expected this thread to pick up, to be honest i thought i was the only person that cares about changing players boots and so on . i didnt know they had already meantioned that you can have untucked shirts, has it been confirmed, in conclusion i just want more boots and more kit detail in edit mode :D

[Rick451]

I think before they get licensing for Nike, Adidas etc. They should get the real names and logos of EVERY team. I find it weird how they have Liverpool and Man Utd but not Arsenal ,Chelsea etc.

[shankly is god]

^^ money...they cant afford to have the premier league as of yet or maybe fifa have the sole rights for such league...but konami at the moment can only have two teams...and as liverpool and man utd are looking the two most successful teams currently

[PESAM411]

ye lol, uve obviuosly never played the whole pes series lol rick

[Eduardo Dubs]

I don't remember it this was an unofficial version of the game or not,
but quite a while ago I remember going on my cousin's PS2, and completely redesigning a team. I could even create the logos!
Does anyone remember that??
When I bought my first PES for my xbox 360 (07), I was so disappointed that the editing mode was so limited. I used to have so much fun editing on my cousin's PS2.

[Rob21C_UK]

I don't remember it this was an unofficial version of the game or not,
but quite a while ago I remember going on my cousin's PS2, and completely redesigning a team. I could even create the logos!
Does anyone remember that??
When I bought my first PES for my xbox 360 (07), I was so disappointed that the editing mode was so limited. I used to have so much fun editing on my cousin's PS2.

Sounds like PES5 to me.

[shaun7]

I don't know how can anyone say that pes 2009's edit mode was limited. It was the BEST edit mode so far. The reason was that you could even create textures in your PNG's + the sponsors and all the words written on the kit would be there unlike when using logos. The only downfall was that there weren't enough templates and the shorts didn't have a logo placement.

[willmo]

I don't know how can anyone say that pes 2009's edit mode was limited. It was the BEST edit mode so far. The reason was that you could even create textures in your PNG's + the sponsors and all the words written on the kit would be there unlike when using logos. The only downfall was that there weren't enough templates and the shorts didn't have a logo placement.

so it was a bit limited then?

[Foxhound]

^^ money...they cant afford to have the England League as of yet or maybe fifa have the sole rights for such league...but konami at the moment can only have two teams...and as liverpool and man utd are looking the two most successful teams currently

Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, the current contract for FIFA to have the Premier-ship exclusive license will end in 2010.

[FIORE_FAN]

Sorry for posting this in this thread, I've been absent from the forums and news on both PES and FIFA lately. But since it has something to do with editing, I thought I'd bring it up here.
I just saw this in the "other gaming forum" under "FIFA10":
http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=70883&page=7
Please have a look at thread #100 from "skullverine" with the videoclip in it. Search for about 7:09 into the clip, and watch the edit set pieces clip!!! This is entirely new to me - and I must admit: It looks absolutely cool! Especially when you get those freekicks, where your chances at goal are really slim. Now you can create a goalscoring opportunity by making different players make "weird" runs to confuse the defenders - then make quick 1-2 passes and have a great shot at goal!! Brilliant! What a shame PES didn't come up with this first though...

[shaun7]

so it was a bit limited then?

What the? Every edit mode can be beter and it was limited to a certain point, but my point was that the ps2 version's edit mode was much more limited. When in the ps2 days, could you add textures to kits and add all the little text possible on the kits?

[shankly is god]

Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, the current contract for FIFA to have the Premier-ship exclusive license will end in 2010.

so after that then we can hope konami will wake up and get in there before fifa...

PES 2009 Edit mode has now set the way for editing in console games no longer will we need to manually edit colors in pixel length we will simply insert a .png to change the interface of something... I truly believe that konami were testing this out in pes2009 to see if it would work and to see how effective it was...

in pes 2009 it was limited how due to the fact it was only available for the front of kits but not in term of creativity if you have a knowledge for graphics then you can create any kit you like via PS or FW or any other programme that is capable of producing .png's..
if konami now utilize this option the possibilities are now endless as long as WE get the layouts right we could do:

*socks
*shorts
*Balls
*Boots
*background images (future pes)
*advertising boards(future pes)

all these things are possible with the ability of .png uploads...

also with the .MP3 uploads they could be utilized into many different areas...

[Eduardo Dubs]

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[shankly is god]

I never got PES 2009, and I don't have, and don't plan on getting the Live Camera.
Will I need that to be able to edit on my Xbox 360 on PES 2010?
I heard that if you insert a USB, you can just use the pngs you guys were talking about.

Will that work?

basicly .png are files that can have a transparrent background so you can create any image you wan using photoshop or fireworks then save it onto a USB flashdrive and then insert it onto the game via the upload facility that pes 2009 offers....

ill upload some samples later on to show you if you want

[Eduardo Dubs]

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[shankly is god]

^^ oh sorry lol....not on pes 2009 you cant only on PS3 it is passable.. but people are anticipating the ability on xbox

[Eduardo Dubs]

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[shankly is god]

Oh Alright.
I really hope they do institute that into the new game.
I'm certainly not getting a PS3, lol. Too much money to spend, when I'm trying to save up to buy this year's games.
Right now, I have on my list:
-PES 2010 (And/Or Fifa10)
-Halo ODST (Maybs...)
-Modern Warfare 2
-Transformers 2 (I am on hold to rent it at my library, let's see if it's any good before I buy it).

i would say the Operation flash point 2 is a must buy it will make COD look like a PS1 game trust...its an actual war simulator... http://www.codemasters.co.uk/flashpoint/index.php

[heatuk10]

I didn't mind last years edit mode really, thou for a xbox 360 user, taking pictures of all the emblems and kits and then having to cut round them all was abit of a chore, but I was under the impression that konami would continually update the boots on PES 2009 think they did it once with adidas f50+ thats it! where since then there has been loads of new nike and adidas boots out better then the ones in game , with no update to keep the game fresh. plus more kit variations would be nice, plus even a boot set that you can change the colours of yourself

[PesMaster1]

we need :

More Kit Designs (Shirts , Short & Sock Designs)
Starting Budgets In Master League
Transfers (Loan & Free Agent = All Year Round)
More Hairstyles (this is a must considering most of the hairstyle are basicly the same kind of cut)
more badge spaces (for people who want to create a FULL LEAGUE (german league or whatever league they like)

if possible , when you add kits not all the files everywhere , try include the kits into the Edit saved data means you only have 1 BIG FILE which is easier for us all

[shankly is god]

^^ you do its called a playlist mate...where all the edit is stored onto one file that you can visit anytime

[shaun7]

^In ps3 yes. :) Hopefully I would like more kit designs and shorts logos.

[shankly is god]

sorry its just for editing PS3 is the best it seems if the editing is now on xbox then i shall buy it for it

[GoonerJosh80]

For years PES editing mode has always been one of the best for a sports game but over the years there have been some obvious blips such as PES 4 which had no striped kits in the template but silly kits with Hearts on them.

The reason why people love the edit mode is becuase

1. It lets you keep player stats up to date of in some cases correct them

2. it lets you keep kits and playing accessories up to date

3. Player creations can be pretty accurate

the list goes on but one of the things that was noticed in last years version and many other releases is that you have not been able to get kits spot on such as the Arsenal strip in 2009 which is 90% accurate.

KITS

Here are a list of the main kit manufactuers in Europe, Asia and the Americas

Adidas (Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Japan, Nigeria, France, Germany, Mexico, Russia & River Plate)

Canterbury (Portsmouth)

Champion (Wigan & Wales)

Diadora (Napoli, Scotland)

Errea (Atalanta)

Kappa (Roma, Torino, Metz & Borrussia Dortmund)

Le Coq Sportif (Everton & Wolves)

Lotto (Borussia Monchengladbach, Colombia)

Nike (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Celtic & Boca Juniors)

Puma (Cameroon, Italy & Feyenoord)

Reebook (Bolton)

Umbro (Lyon, West Ham, Sunderland & Man City)

Now this is an exhaustive list and I have not even mentioned all of the teams who's kits are provided by these manufactuers. I dont see why Konami can't approach these manufactuers and ask for their templates for a fixed period that way the kits will be 100% authentic both player and GKs kits. There must be the capacity to add these templates onto Blu Ray or 360/PC DVD. The big four Nike, Adidas, Umbro & Puma will have the most templates, mid companies like Kappa, Le coq Sportif & Lotto will have a few and the likes of Champion, Canterbury & Errea are gonna have maybe one or two. it would be nice if they looked as good as the licencsed kits as well.

The short length option form the previous PES games should be brought back as classic players did not have shorts as long as they do now example below. Also the shirt tightness option as in PES 3 as some of these kits and shorts are tighter fitting than others.



Maradona in 86

http://www.vivadiego.com/koreab.jpg

Torres now.

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/8/1/0/f/PicImg_Real_Madrid_v_c8f8.JPG

Kit Options

One of the best options introduced was the untucked or tucked shirts and the socks low sock high as there are many players that wear their kit in specific ways and in some ways it emphisies the players personality on the pitch.


http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/England+v+Ukraine+FIFA2010+Wor ld+Cup+Qualifier+5Jr0DXrOAfql. jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8PNdhdSrKoY/SIXMzcu7OEI/AAAAAAAAAA0/I3HT3ZnpfBk/s400/essien_chelsea.jpg

http://i.media.goal.com/g/27750_news.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAmm8NGwRAY/RnwSK8huhNI/AAAAAAAAALg/5NLmkg8KWH8/s320/henry-back.jpg

http://www.arsenalpies.tv/Alex%20Hleb.JPG

http://www.kagakribet.com/soccerplayer/francesco-totti.jpg


Obviously in the Totti, Hleb and Henry photos you notice the difference in the way socks are worn. I have noticed there are more players due to shirts being tighter are wearing their sleeves in what is best described as a 3/4 roll.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/soccer/photos/Cristiano_Ronaldo.jpg

Also the slight variations in the way tape is worn as on PES you have the standard one ring round the ankle but there are variations as shown below

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/afpji/20090513/newsmlmmd.3fb3ace2a09e81f71bd7 1100942f08fa.6c11b.jpg

Ronaldo normally wears his with some kind of ankle sock/guard

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/c/0/5/d8.JPG

Gerrard wears his the traditional way which is featured in PES.

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20081112/21/3319267944-soccer-carling-cup-fourth-round-tottenham-hotspur-v-liverpool-white.jpg

Torres also wears it similar to Ronaldo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01006/gallas_1006473c.jpg

Lastly le sulk wears his higher up his socks.

Accessories

Genrally PES gives a good variation of accessories for players the only things I'd want included are the ability like in 2K9 to wear club writstbands like Joe Cole does for Chelsea.

Equitment

PES has alsways had a good selection of boots but one of the major problems has been that you have 3 or 4 pairs of Predators taking up fours slots when common sense says you have all the Predator colours on one slot freeing up another 3 slots. In terms of boots the following boot manufactuers models

Adidas (Predator, World Cup, F50 & AdiPURE)

Nike (Mercurial Vapor, T90 Laser, Tiempo & Air Legend)

Puma (V.1.08-5.08, Konstruct & King)

Umbro (SX Flare & SX Valor)

Mizuno (Morelia Pro Japan)

Lotto (Zhero Gravity)

Diadorra (Brasil Italy & Pro Line Axler)

Asics (Testimonial, Lethel Testimonial)

Reebok (Instante Pro)

Again these are a few of the boots available but Konamai could have all the styles of the big boys Adidas, Nike & Puma could be given the 11 slots with the different colour schemes all on the same slot. These are the most worn then for some of the other brands you could either assign them one slot for there most popular boot or make their boots & logos creatable in the edit mode.

Again I think for classic players if you had this would give that extra authenticity.

Adidas (World Cup)
Puma (King)
Nike(Earl to Mid 90s Tiempo)

Goakeeper Gloves

There is absolutely no reason why GK gloves are not licensed in the game or that they are not editbale there is nothing more annoying having a GK like Buffon wearing black gloves when he has been wearing all white for the past season.

Adidas
Nike
Puma
Selsport
Umbro
Reusch
Sells

These are the main maunfactuers but Konami could either get licences for the big boys as most keepers wear Nike, Adidas, Puma than Umbro/Sells/Selsport. If Konami had a goalkeeper glove editing the following(strap colour, palm design, top design, top colour and logo) These could be inlcuded to then most of theses manufactuers gloves could be editied into the game.

Less of the gardening/mickey mouse gloves

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh279/raydenvm/000218925.jpg

and more

http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/04/07/petr_cech.jpg

Konami has sinced confirmed this has been sorted and WENB claimed that gloves are licensed.

Player Faces

My only issue I have is not being able to create spot on likenesses is there noe way you can include past players whether as licensed faces or just within the mutlitude of noses, mouths, eyes & eyebrows. Surely that would not be a breach as they are in the game but then concievably any person in the world could be in there if someone has the patience to make them. It seems a real shame to myself and that preset players look awesome but made up one or classic have a wierd look about them.

Player Hair

Can you please do a bit my research into afro type hair because for certain players like Essien the hair is awful you need more black hairstyles including a smaller afro for players like Glen Johnson pre braids.

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/michael-essien2.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/08/08/496x259/GlenJohnson_1144819.jpg


It would be nice if you had and accurate Valderama hairstyle as well as 20-30 historic hairstyles such(I know you have a few) as Maradona's barnet from 1986, Paul Brietner's German afro, Waddles mullet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38321000/jpg/_38321457_valderama1.jpg

http://stuartnoel.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/2-maradona-1986-pannini.jpg

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/sport/slideshow/worst-haircuts/img_9.jpg

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/baggio.jpg

http://lucaskill.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/keagan.jpg
And a decent Baggio hairstyle would be nice





I had to include that one those are the best perms ever!! :D



I just thought I'd put all my thoughts into a monster post including my thoughts on other areas of editing

There is no reason why the following could not be editiable

Balls as it would be nice to be able to use NIKE balls when playing the English league but the last time I remember the NIKE ball was only available for the La Liga when it was Licensed. The following balls are used for the following Leagues

Official England League Ball

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:Wbqmg2mcu34s2M:ht tp://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/ActionMaN_2006/Spurs/PDS005009610.jpg

Official La Liga Ball

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:btk3xtlAAg-DUM:http://www.premsoccershop.com/images/Laliga.jpg

Official Serie A Ball

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:Nh979nyZNgUGdM:ht tp://www.juventus.com/site/filesite/news/pallone_nike_09.jpg

Official Europa League Football

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:Qm4vt8LFXbrzpM:ht tp://www.acasports.co.uk

Official Champions League Ball

http://www.acasports.co.uk/images/products/tile/adidas-finale-cl.jpg

As you can see these are mainly Nike and Adidas balls but you can also add Mitre who do the Championship & England home internationals.

Why not have more licensed balls i.e just the models and not the fac that they are attributed to a icensed league and also the ability to be able to edits balls to create ones that are not in the game.

You could have your base ball I'd say 4 panel styles like below

Long Panel

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:0-5IuVqYxNIEHM:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3302542219

Classic Panel

http://static.flickr.com/50/163657399_21d6f3a762_o.jpg

Modern Panel

http://www.soccerballworld.com/images/golden_ball.jpg

You then should have the ability to edit the base ball buy colouring panels like below



Or Adding patterns and colours like the two below

http://www.soccerballworld.com/images/WCEtruscoUnico1990.JPG

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:_IuO5NH5yNBqRM:ht tp://www.subsidesports.com/uk/images/product/large/NikeT9011HiVisBall0607.gif

These could then be available during the match selection and league selection mode.

As I said in the above post the League Logos should be editable and this should purely be done the same way badges are done. If possible if it could be incorporated into the game so that when playing the EPL all the shirts will display the EPL logo on their shirts like so

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ygIL1_ALJoYWWM:ht tp://images.thesun.co.uk

This should be the same for La Liga, BundisLiga, Seria A and any other league we may wish tyo create.

I would also like to see editable trophies if possibe as it would just mean that we are able to edit the

International Cup trophy
The various league trophies
European Champions Trophy
Americas Trophy
Asia Trophy
Africa Trophy

For instance to create the EPL trophy it would be a case of chosing a base and then handles

Base wise you could have

Trophy(EPL, La Liga, European Championship, Uefa Cup, Champions League, Copa America, )
Vase (The only one I can think of is the F.A vase)
Plate(Budisliga, Ligue 1 )
Sheild(Cahrity Sheild)
Statuette(World Cup, African Nations Cup)

You could then have the choice of adding arms to the trophy which could be moved into place and then the colour of the trophy and maybe and option to add the winning teams colours.

To sum up my entire post why not make the edit mode as open as possible to give each individual player the possibility to edit the various elements of the game to their liking.

I also think that a possible community sharing mode like the one in NBA2K9 that allows other users to log into a database to download created content would be a great way for PES fans to have all their creation stored on one central database.

I would be interested to know if the PS3 edit mode could ever be on Par with PC Editing is there anyway to open it up so we can be as accurate as our PC counterparts?

[Eduardo Dubs]

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[Alolo91]

Let me guess, ShaneJoshua?

[Jasperinho]

@GoonerJosh, that was one hell of an impressive post. Welcome on board. I hope that Konami is reading your essay :)

[GoonerJosh80]

@GoonerJosh, that was one hell of an impressive post. Welcome on board. I hope that Konami is reading your essay :)

It's the least I can do as I love PES. There is no reason why we can't have an edit mode as grand as this. Like I said it then means we can create a games as we see fit plus if you added the community online aspect it's ius then an easily accesible why for people to share their creations online. :D

[shankly is god]

jesus josh dont think ive seen a post like that before lol

you have just stroke up a chord with me now....Trophy's being editable would be awesome...

as I am now heading into the main stream graphic designer industry ive always loved creating anything and everything...and with the new possibility of editing via PS or FW and uploading .png's i have spent hours making kits....i plead with konami to expand on this i plead

[GoonerJosh80]

jesus josh dont think ive seen a post like that before lol

you have just stroke up a chord with me now....Trophy's being editable would be awesome...

as I am now heading into the main stream graphic designer industry ive always loved creating anything and everything...and with the new possibility of editing via PS or FW and uploading .png's i have spent hours making kits....i plead with konami to expand on this i plead

Ultimately what we want for the consoles is an edit mode on par with the PC sop the ability to edit the game with accuracy. Look at the Arsenal kit on PES 2009 it was 99% accurate whereas all the kits on the PC are presitne. By getting templates that gives us this option of doing that.

It seems like the most logical way sign up kit/boot/glove/ball manufactuers to give you correct templates for these products of license them.

Imagine an equivilent of 2K Share where all of a sudden a player not in the game becomes the next big thing and I can then go online and download a creation from a whole host of users. This would also stop people trying to sell them online as it's that kind of thing that would lead to the EPL clamping down on how much is in the edit mode.

Like I said I love PES and want a game that is as visually accurate as ;)possible

[PESAM411]

thanks guys for ur enthusiasm in this post

[Rob21C_UK]

I think the main problem is, Konami has always created games for the Arcade and Consoles and as such is stuck in the old ways of doing things. They still make the game with the restrictions of the old consoles especially in the area of storage of settings etc. They still seem to be stuck with thinking that all the storage space should fit on a memory stick with about 256Mb of memory, instead of using the Hard Drive space that the PC/PS3/X-360 have.

Until they get out of that mindset i'm sure PES will still have these restrictions unfortunately.

[PESAM411]

pes ftw 2bh fml

[shankly is god]

Guys listern out or edit mode....

[goldman132]

Tattoos should definitely be in

As good as Torres looks he doesn't have his trademark tattoos.

Does Beckham have his tattoo in 09? I can't remember


Also certain goalies wear tracksuit bottoms like Helton of Porto so they should be in too

[shankly is god]

no he dont....i love tattoo's design many of my own....would love to see them in 2010

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

i never expected this thread to pick up, to be honest i thought i was the only person that cares about changing players boots and so on . i didnt know they had already meantioned that you can have untucked shirts, has it been confirmed, in conclusion i just want more boots and more kit detail in edit mode :D

Your not alone, I do the same, every premier league player has edited boots, and rangers in fact, nearly every player in my game has edited boots.

I wouldnt mind the same boots eg. nike, adidas and puma, but the latest one if you get what im saying eg. for nike the latest vapors, but more selection in colours/ create your own colours.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Yeah. If I'm not mistaken, the current contract for FIFA to have the Premier-ship exclusive license will end in 2010.

So does that mean the premier league will let konami and ea share the rights for licensing, what do you think?

[shankly is god]

^^ no stick to ireland

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

For years PES editing mode has always been one of the best for a sports game but over the years there have been some obvious blips such as PES 4 which had no striped kits in the template but silly kits with Hearts on them.

The reason why people love the edit mode is becuase

1. It lets you keep player stats up to date of in some cases correct them

2. it lets you keep kits and playing accessories up to date

3. Player creations can be pretty accurate

the list goes on but one of the things that was noticed in last years version and many other releases is that you have not been able to get kits spot on such as the Arsenal strip in 2009 which is 90% accurate.

KITS

Here are a list of the main kit manufactuers in Europe, Asia and the Americas

Adidas (Chelsea, Bayern Munich, Japan, Nigeria, France, Germany, Mexico, Russia & River Plate)

Canterbury (Portsmouth)

Champion (Wigan & Wales)

Diadora (Napoli, Scotland)

Errea (Atalanta)

Kappa (Roma, Torino, Metz & Borrussia Dortmund)

Le Coq Sportif (Everton & Wolves)

Lotto (Borussia Monchengladbach, Colombia)

Nike (Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Celtic & Boca Juniors)

Puma (Cameroon, Italy & Feyenoord)

Reebook (Bolton)

Umbro (Lyon, West Ham, Sunderland & Man City)

Now this is an exhaustive list and I have not even mentioned all of the teams who's kits are provided by these manufactuers. I dont see why Konami can't approach these manufactuers and ask for their templates for a fixed period that way the kits will be 100% authentic both player and GKs kits. There must be the capacity to add these templates onto Blu Ray or 360/PC DVD. The big four Nike, Adidas, Umbro & Puma will have the most templates, mid companies like Kappa, Le coq Sportif & Lotto will have a few and the likes of Champion, Canterbury & Errea are gonna have maybe one or two. it would be nice if they looked as good as the licencsed kits as well.

The short length option form the previous PES games should be brought back as classic players did not have shorts as long as they do now example below. Also the shirt tightness option as in PES 3 as some of these kits and shorts are tighter fitting than others.



Maradona in 86

http://www.vivadiego.com/koreab.jpg

Torres now.

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/8/1/0/f/PicImg_Real_Madrid_v_c8f8.JPG

Kit Options

One of the best options introduced was the untucked or tucked shirts and the socks low sock high as there are many players that wear their kit in specific ways and in some ways it emphisies the players personality on the pitch.


http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/England+v+Ukraine+FIFA2010+Wor ld+Cup+Qualifier+5Jr0DXrOAfql. jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8PNdhdSrKoY/SIXMzcu7OEI/AAAAAAAAAA0/I3HT3ZnpfBk/s400/essien_chelsea.jpg

http://i.media.goal.com/g/27750_news.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MAmm8NGwRAY/RnwSK8huhNI/AAAAAAAAALg/5NLmkg8KWH8/s320/henry-back.jpg

http://www.arsenalpies.tv/Alex%20Hleb.JPG

http://www.kagakribet.com/soccerplayer/francesco-totti.jpg


Obviously in the Totti, Hleb and Henry photos you notice the difference in the way socks are worn. I have noticed there are more players due to shirts being tighter are wearing their sleeves in what is best described as a 3/4 roll.

http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/soccer/photos/Cristiano_Ronaldo.jpg

Also the slight variations in the way tape is worn as on PES you have the standard one ring round the ankle but there are variations as shown below

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/afpji/20090513/newsmlmmd.3fb3ace2a09e81f71bd7 1100942f08fa.6c11b.jpg

Ronaldo normally wears his with some kind of ankle sock/guard

http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/d/c/0/5/d8.JPG

Gerrard wears his the traditional way which is featured in PES.

http://d.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/sp/empics/20081112/21/3319267944-soccer-carling-cup-fourth-round-tottenham-hotspur-v-liverpool-white.jpg

Torres also wears it similar to Ronaldo

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01006/gallas_1006473c.jpg

Lastly le sulk wears his higher up his socks.

Accessories

Genrally PES gives a good variation of accessories for players the only things I'd want included are the ability like in 2K9 to wear club writstbands like Joe Cole does for Chelsea.

Equitment

PES has alsways had a good selection of boots but one of the major problems has been that you have 3 or 4 pairs of Predators taking up fours slots when common sense says you have all the Predator colours on one slot freeing up another 3 slots. In terms of boots the following boot manufactuers models

Adidas (Predator, World Cup, F50 & AdiPURE)

Nike (Mercurial Vapor, T90 Laser, Tiempo & Air Legend)

Puma (V.1.08-5.08, Konstruct & King)

Umbro (SX Flare & SX Valor)

Mizuno (Morelia Pro Japan)

Lotto (Zhero Gravity)

Diadorra (Brasil Italy & Pro Line Axler)

Asics (Testimonial, Lethel Testimonial)

Reebok (Instante Pro)

Again these are a few of the boots available but Konamai could have all the styles of the big boys Adidas, Nike & Puma could be given the 11 slots with the different colour schemes all on the same slot. These are the most worn then for some of the other brands you could either assign them one slot for there most popular boot or make their boots & logos creatable in the edit mode.

Again I think for classic players if you had this would give that extra authenticity.

Adidas (World Cup)
Puma (King)
Nike(Earl to Mid 90s Tiempo)

Goakeeper Gloves

There is absolutely no reason why GK gloves are not licensed in the game or that they are not editbale there is nothing more annoying having a GK like Buffon wearing black gloves when he has been wearing all white for the past season.

Adidas
Nike
Puma
Selsport
Umbro
Reusch
Sells

These are the main maunfactuers but Konami could either get licences for the big boys as most keepers wear Nike, Adidas, Puma than Umbro/Sells/Selsport. If Konami had a goalkeeper glove editing the following(strap colour, palm design, top design, top colour and logo) These could be inlcuded to then most of theses manufactuers gloves could be editied into the game.

Less of the gardening/mickey mouse gloves

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh279/raydenvm/000218925.jpg

and more

http://www.4thegame.com/media/00/04/07/petr_cech.jpg

Konami has sinced confirmed this has been sorted and WENB claimed that gloves are licensed.

Player Faces

My only issue I have is not being able to create spot on likenesses is there noe way you can include past players whether as licensed faces or just within the mutlitude of noses, mouths, eyes & eyebrows. Surely that would not be a breach as they are in the game but then concievably any person in the world could be in there if someone has the patience to make them. It seems a real shame to myself and that preset players look awesome but made up one or classic have a wierd look about them.

Player Hair

Can you please do a bit my research into afro type hair because for certain players like Essien the hair is awful you need more black hairstyles including a smaller afro for players like Glen Johnson pre braids.

http://www.topnews.in/light/files/michael-essien2.jpg

http://img.skysports.com/08/08/496x259/GlenJohnson_1144819.jpg


It would be nice if you had and accurate Valderama hairstyle as well as 20-30 historic hairstyles such(I know you have a few) as Maradona's barnet from 1986, Paul Brietner's German afro, Waddles mullet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38321000/jpg/_38321457_valderama1.jpg

http://stuartnoel.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/2-maradona-1986-pannini.jpg

http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/sport/slideshow/worst-haircuts/img_9.jpg

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/baggio.jpg

http://lucaskill.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/keagan.jpg
And a decent Baggio hairstyle would be nice





I had to include that one those are the best perms ever!! :D



I just thought I'd put all my thoughts into a monster post including my thoughts on other areas of editing

There is no reason why the following could not be editiable

Balls as it would be nice to be able to use NIKE balls when playing the English league but the last time I remember the NIKE ball was only available for the La Liga when it was Licensed. The following balls are used for the following Leagues

Official England League Ball

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:Wbqmg2mcu34s2M:ht tp://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j249/ActionMaN_2006/Spurs/PDS005009610.jpg

Official La Liga Ball

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:btk3xtlAAg-DUM:http://www.premsoccershop.com/images/Laliga.jpg

Official Serie A Ball

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:Nh979nyZNgUGdM:ht tp://www.juventus.com/site/filesite/news/pallone_nike_09.jpg

Official Europa League Football

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:Qm4vt8LFXbrzpM:ht tp://www.acasports.co.uk

Official Champions League Ball

http://www.acasports.co.uk/images/products/tile/adidas-finale-cl.jpg

As you can see these are mainly Nike and Adidas balls but you can also add Mitre who do the Championship & England home internationals.

Why not have more licensed balls i.e just the models and not the fac that they are attributed to a icensed league and also the ability to be able to edits balls to create ones that are not in the game.

You could have your base ball I'd say 4 panel styles like below

Long Panel

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:0-5IuVqYxNIEHM:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3302542219

Classic Panel

http://static.flickr.com/50/163657399_21d6f3a762_o.jpg

Modern Panel

http://www.soccerballworld.com/images/golden_ball.jpg

You then should have the ability to edit the base ball buy colouring panels like below



Or Adding patterns and colours like the two below

http://www.soccerballworld.com/images/WCEtruscoUnico1990.JPG

http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:_IuO5NH5yNBqRM:ht tp://www.subsidesports.com/uk/images/product/large/NikeT9011HiVisBall0607.gif

These could then be available during the match selection and league selection mode.

As I said in the above post the League Logos should be editable and this should purely be done the same way badges are done. If possible if it could be incorporated into the game so that when playing the EPL all the shirts will display the EPL logo on their shirts like so

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ygIL1_ALJoYWWM:ht tp://images.thesun.co.uk

This should be the same for La Liga, BundisLiga, Seria A and any other league we may wish tyo create.

I would also like to see editable trophies if possibe as it would just mean that we are able to edit the

International Cup trophy
The various league trophies
European Champions Trophy
Americas Trophy
Asia Trophy
Africa Trophy

For instance to create the EPL trophy it would be a case of chosing a base and then handles

Base wise you could have

Trophy(EPL, La Liga, European Championship, Uefa Cup, Champions League, Copa America, )
Vase (The only one I can think of is the F.A vase)
Plate(Budisliga, Ligue 1 )
Sheild(Cahrity Sheild)
Statuette(World Cup, African Nations Cup)

You could then have the choice of adding arms to the trophy which could be moved into place and then the colour of the trophy and maybe and option to add the winning teams colours.

To sum up my entire post why not make the edit mode as open as possible to give each individual player the possibility to edit the various elements of the game to their liking.

I also think that a possible community sharing mode like the one in NBA2K9 that allows other users to log into a database to download created content would be a great way for PES fans to have all their creation stored on one central database.

I would be interested to know if the PS3 edit mode could ever be on Par with PC Editing is there anyway to open it up so we can be as accurate as our PC counterparts?

Great Post and Ideas, these would all be brilliant as I am one of the people when they first get the game go straight to edit mode and check out the boots kit designs etc.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Ultimately what we want for the consoles is an edit mode on par with the PC sop the ability to edit the game with accuracy. Look at the Arsenal kit on PES 2009 it was 99% accurate whereas all the kits on the PC are presitne. By getting templates that gives us this option of doing that.

It seems like the most logical way sign up kit/boot/glove/ball manufactuers to give you correct templates for these products of license them.

Imagine an equivilent of 2K Share where all of a sudden a player not in the game becomes the next big thing and I can then go online and download a creation from a whole host of users. This would also stop people trying to sell them online as it's that kind of thing that would lead to the EPL clamping down on how much is in the edit mode.

Like I said I love PES and want a game that is as visually accurate as ;)possible

E-mail your ideas to konami, thats what I did recently asking for stuff such as Become A Coach, Indoor Traing 5 A Side Pitch, Kick About (same as Fifas Free Roam as I enjoyed that, More Movement from Set-Pieces, Controllable cut scenes/ Statements after matches, now the pier de resistance, in rival matches there is a higher tempo, the matches are more physical, better atmosphere, pushing/ shuving square ups etc.

Let me know what you all think about my ideas. I dont mind criticism.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

^^ no stick to ireland

what you mean stick to Ireland?

I'm not from Ireland, im from NORTHERN Ireland.:realmad:

[shankly is god]

clearly proves my point you say your from northen ireland...im from andy's town belfast....all im saying is dont hold your breathe when hoping for a whole englash team......glentoran proves everything....and im shocked you have chosen the ultra ritch no reputation man city over man utd lol

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

clearly proves my point you say your from northen ireland...im from andy's town belfast....all im saying is dont hold your breathe when hoping for a whole englash team......glentoran proves everything....and im shocked you have chosen the ultra ritch no reputation man city over man utd lol

Oh right sorry I thought you were slabbering, sorry mate, my uncle got me into supporting man city

[shankly is god]

ha ha just man city tho was thinking jesus because there ritch the fans are now coming out of the woodwork..... but in reply to your post....i would defo not hold me breath on a fully licensed premiership.... only unless konami 100% bet there lives on it lol

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

ha ha just man city tho was thinking jesus because there ritch the fans are now coming out of the woodwork..... but in reply to your post....i would defo not hold me breath on a fully licensed England League.... only unless konami 100% bet there lives on it lol

No, No- once a blue always a blue, thinking about going to man city vs barcelona as I just went there on holiday, and visited the nou camp.

I was just wondering if Fifas Premier League runs out after 2010, then Konami might have a chance of getting in there ad nicking the license. A dream I suppose lol, awell.

What do you think of my ideas that I set to Konami in a e-mail.

[shankly is god]

No, No- once a blue always a blue, thinking about going to man city vs barcelona as I just went there on holiday, and visited the nou camp.

I was just wondering if Fifas England League runs out after 2010, then Konami might have a chance of getting in there ad nicking the license. A dream I suppose lol, awell.

What do you think of my ideas that I set to Konami in a e-mail.

yea pretty good and yea i have more expect for city than utd lol...... and yea who knows but ever since konami has been making football games licence has bee the major downfall...who knows maybe konami can get the EPL after 2010 but like i said i wouldn't hold my brathe as EA can throw money at everything just like city lmao :P

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

yea pretty good and yea i have more expect for city than utd lol...... and yea who knows but ever since konami has been making football games licence has bee the major downfall...who knows maybe konami can get the EPL after 2010 but like i said i wouldn't hold my brathe as EA can throw money at everything just like city lmao :P

Lol il just ask mark hughes to ask the owners to buy it for us anyway.

I like the rivalary idea esp: rangers vs celtic, england vs scotland, northern ireland vs republic of ireland, fenebache vs galatasary, ac vs inter.
Rivalries would be a great idea tho I think:D

[shankly is god]

lol il just ask mark hughes to ask the owners to buy it for us anyway.

I like the rivalary idea esp: Rangers vs celtic, england vs scotland, northern ireland vs republic of ireland, fenebache vs galatasary, ac vs inter.
Rivalries would be a great idea tho i think:d

liverpool vs the shitty blues hahahah

[MiniManprise]

I Prefer Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 By Miles. For One The Graphics Are 10 Times Better And On Pro Evolution Soccer 6 There Were Only Adidas Boots Unlike 2009 Even Though You Could Create Nike Vapours. Plus Can't Wait Pro Evolution Soccer 2010!

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

liverpool vs the shitty blues hahahah

Yea everton cud play in there new black ad pink away kit lol

[CryingGallas]

MAn that original post must have taken years, but good job!

[shankly is god]

he has other posts similar...really does love to get his point across lol

[byrnie05]

What I cant understand is and therefore hope that this season it is sorted, how can they have an official UEFA license and teams who weren't even qualified to enter last season's tournament are licensed, but Arsenal and Chelsea weren't. Madness.

[PESAM411]

i just hope its a good game 2bh

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

i just hope its a good game 2bh

Yea just as long as its a good game we will all be happy

[shankly is god]

well ya sam we are all hoping the same dude....but you kno the edit mode (choice o discussion) needs an overhaul of new options when will we hear about the edit mode you reckon??

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

when will we hear about the edit mode you reckon??

I think we will hear about the edit mode/ licensing at gamescom, I found this its probably old, but maybe not.

Licensing

*In addition to the UEFA Champions League license, Konami has secured the rights to the UEFA Europa League, the competition that was formerly known as the UEFA Cup.
*As we know, Konami can only license at most two English Premier League sides due to the exclusivity agreement EA has with it's FIFA series. The two English teams this year are said to be Liverpool FC and Manchester United.
*French, Spanish and Italian leagues return and are fully licensed, and there is strong rumour that this year the German League will be fully licensed, although possibly with the league not having the Bundesliga name. This can presumably be edited in the game's Edit Mode, so this would mean four fully licensed leagues in the game.
*All teams that have qualified for either this year's UEFA Champions League, or the UEFA Europa Cup, are also fully licensed.
The cover stars who will appear on the game's box are Messi, and Liverpool's Fernando Torres.

If this is old I'm sorry.

[shankly is god]

^^ yea it is old but never mind.... i would like to kno in depth about the edit mode as its always the first thing i do in pes and saying that fifa...... i like to edit things the way I and everyone else see's it as konami have been known to get things wrong.....like Torres wearing red nike boots for example when he mostly wears white

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

^^ yea it is old but never mind.... i would like to kno in depth about the edit mode as its always the first thing i do in pes and saying that fifa...... i like to edit things the way I and everyone else see's it as konami have been known to get things wrong.....like Torres wearing red nike boots for example when he mostly wears white

Yea me to, when I see Ferdinand wearing F-50s for eg. I have to change it to Nike Total 90's, but when I got 09 and seen that no transfers were done I had to waste my time updating transfers. Robinho to City etc.

[shankly is god]

yea I always edit...the look as well and if there is added things like Tattoo's etc i may go mad with them lol....but also the stats as again i feel konami are harsh sometimes with the stats

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

yea I always edit...the look as well and if there is added things like Tattoo's etc i may go mad with them lol....but also the stats as again i feel konami are harsh sometimes with the stats

Tattoos would be cool- if you scored a last minute winner and you could take your shirt off.

I like to get the kits next to perfect, mainly Premier League kits, talking of kits have you see the new Getafe shirt (Burger King).

Go on footballshirtculture.com and go to the bottom and click Getafe, you'll have a laugh.

[shankly is god]

yea im a member of that place love seeing the new kits and boots...also ole ole to show my desings....

but i wish for a much greater control over .png's if you could edit shorts socks boots and tattoo's with the .png's that would be orgasmic lol would love the game tell my girl to feck off and never go out again....

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

yea im a member of that place love seeing the new kits and boots...also ole ole to show my desings....

but i wish for a much greater control over .png's if you could edit shorts socks boots and tattoo's with the .png's that would be orgasmic lol would love the game tell my girl to feck off and never go out again....

Boot Creator is ament to be back, hopefully just changing the colour of the official boots, not the dopey made up boots in PES 2008 cuz those boots are shit.

Lol, you can edit the shorts and socks in the good old edit mode, just by puting the outline 2 strips then the inner stripe to make the adidas 3 stripe design, thats the editing I like not by .png's and I only have a xbox anyway so I cant do it. But I probably wouldnt do it anyway but if it was added to xbox many people would like that but personally not me.

[shankly is god]

it gives me alot more freedom because i can just create kits...like I made a liverpool kit with my companies logo on the front....looks awesome...but afterwards i would have loved to do it on socks shorts etc...and my own versions of boots

[byrnie05]

Licensing

*As we know, Konami can only license at most two English England League sides due to the exclusivity agreement EA has with it's FIFA series. The two English teams this year are said to be Liverpool FC and Manchester United.

*All teams that have qualified for either this year's UEFA Champions League, or the UEFA Europa Cup, are also fully licensed.



Surely for the second statement to be true, then Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, Everton and Fulham would have to be licensed?

[Rob21C_UK]

Surely for the second statement to be true, then Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, Everton and Fulham would have to be licensed?

We all thought that with Arsenal and Chelsea in PES2009 with the Champions League mode but they weren't. Expect North East London, West London White, West Midlands Village and Merseyside Blue in there. Unless they have 2 versions of each Europa League team that is...

[shankly is god]

ONLY LIVERPOOL (deservedly) and man u are licensed
aston villa everton etc would only be licensed in europa league mode only....

[PsG bOY]

i guess nobody cares about the psp version but without a doubt,its the one who needs a BIG edit mode the most.In the name of all psp users,im asking for REAL...yes i said REAL branded boots.Its ugly and boring to play against players with plain black boots with no brand that you cant even edit.KONAMI give psp users some real boots please!!! stadiums and balls too.we should also be able to edit kits.why cant we put wristbands and gloves at the same time? just look at Adebayor and you'll see what i mean.

[JackWhoBRA]

found this on PESFan by 'Scott Willz'

"WENB Edit Mode News

First of all lets discuss Kits. Like in PES 2009, you have 81 different templates with 4 different layers. While its the same, Konami have updated the templates to accommodate 09/10 designs. So, the new umbro (Everton) and puma designs (Tottenham Hotspur) are easily made.

Another good thing is that the ‘home made’ kits really hold up against the licensed ones. I managed to make the Everton kits for example, and they look as good as the real thing.

Staying with teams, there is now the possibility to have 8 different chants per team! 5 from normal, gameplay moments AND 3 for specific occasions - After you score, taking set-pieces, and after a victory.

Onto player editing. You now, as you are aware of I’m sure, are able to untuck and tuck in shirts. There’s also the return of 4 dribbling animations, the same as the PS2 ones with the next-gen sheen. Unfortunately, you still can’t edit facial hair on players already in the game.

Onto boots.

Right now the boots in the game are as follows:

Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG White
Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG Black
F50 Tunit Blue
Adidas Adipure Black
Nike CTR360 Maestri FG Black/Red
Mecurial Vapor Superfly Orion Blue
T90 Laser Silver/Black/Red
Tiempo Legend FG White/ Blue
Puma V1.08 White/Blue
Puma V-konstruct III White/Blue
Umbro Speciali Black

Then you have 13 slots of random boots, giving us a total of 24 boots. No editable boots then, but I’m very confident the 13 slots will represent them.

Thats all I have right now. Seeing as the code is 75% complete, I’m sure there will be a few more additions to edit mode before release."

[shankly is god]

found this on PESFan by 'Scott Willz'

"WENB Edit Mode News

First of all lets discuss Kits. Like in PES 2009, you have 81 different templates with 4 different layers. While its the same, Konami have updated the templates to accommodate 09/10 designs. So, the new umbro (Everton) and puma designs (Tottenham Hotspur) are easily made.

Another good thing is that the ‘home made’ kits really hold up against the licensed ones. I managed to make the Everton kits for example, and they look as good as the real thing.

Staying with teams, there is now the possibility to have 8 different chants per team! 5 from normal, gameplay moments AND 3 for specific occasions - After you score, taking set-pieces, and after a victory.

Onto player editing. You now, as you are aware of I’m sure, are able to untuck and tuck in shirts. There’s also the return of 4 dribbling animations, the same as the PS2 ones with the next-gen sheen. Unfortunately, you still can’t edit facial hair on players already in the game.

Onto boots.

Right now the boots in the game are as follows:

Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG White
Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG Black
F50 Tunit Blue
Adidas Adipure Black
Nike CTR360 Maestri FG Black/Red
Mecurial Vapor Superfly Orion Blue
T90 Laser Silver/Black/Red
Tiempo Legend FG White/ Blue
Puma V1.08 White/Blue
Puma V-konstruct III White/Blue
Umbro Speciali Black

Then you have 13 slots of random boots, giving us a total of 24 boots. No editable boots then, but I’m very confident the 13 slots will represent them.

Thats all I have right now. Seeing as the code is 75% complete, I’m sure there will be a few more additions to edit mode before release."

been posted like twice now dude sorry :( but awesome news eh...

[JackWhoBRA]

Ahh well. I hadn't read it in this thread so thought I'd drop it.

I'm currently getting all the images ready for 09/10 kits now, testing them on (PS3) PES2009 right this second. I've put a lot of work into this and created everything from scratch, finding my own resources.

Will be posting a thread with all the .PNG images displayed for each kit (home, away, gk home +away) so everyone can just 'Save As' and add them to their current Saved Game and not have to worry about changing their OF.

There will be the .rar for the whole collection too. Only got a few more to do now, can't wait to get it finished ;-)

Examples :
---------- BLACKBURN home --------------------- WIGAN away --------------
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/556/blackburnrovershome.pnghttp://img249.imageshack.us/img249/882/wiganathleticaway.png

----------- WIGAN gk home ---------------------- BOLTON home --------------
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4586/wiganathleticgkhome.pnghttp://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3144/boltonwanderershome.png

[shankly is god]

lol im working on a OF for pes 2010 also...so i guess we are in compitition ha ha ha..... they look good man ill be working on everything all nations as i love everything to do with design as of my job may give away.....

im more into my Fantasy kits with liverpool, celtic, etc

[JackWhoBRA]

that's just the iceberg. From ones I've seen, they aren't as accurate as mine. Everything from the emblem colour fill to proportion of emblem size to sponsor.

Sure we could join forces like? I've only got 2 more refinements 2 make and then fully complete the EPL.

Some more creative ones that I've tested and look amazing. Just wanted to really have continuity of quality and make the game look it's best.

--------- WEST HAM gk away --------------------- SPURS gk away ----------
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7093/westhamunitedgkaway.pnghttp://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8366/tottenhamhotspurgkhome.png

[shankly is god]

ha ha ok man its on no more MR nice guy....they suck mate they fucking suck no way would i have them on my game fock that

[JackWhoBRA]

Fair enough. No need to be silly about it. Look sweet when in the game with the fill behind and adding the emblem through the editor...

Your loss mate. Look forward to seeing yours.

[s.filmer]

Fair enough. No need to be silly about it. Look sweet when in the game with the fill behind and adding the emblem through the editor...

Your loss mate. Look forward to seeing yours.

I have tried these on the PS3 and they look fantastic, great job mate. Can you tell me when you will be releasing the whole finished set of PNGs hope it will be soon ?

[JackWhoBRA]

Thanks for that mate.

Erm... I think I might just put out what I've done in next couple of days and add/replace if I improve or change something for them.

Wish I could watermark them but don't wanna ruin them in any way. If you use them or pass them on just drop my name or a link or something and that would be sweet.

I'll get working on the thread and post it here when sorted, oh and will include any special instructions (colours, templates details) to achieve the best looking results. Keep an eye out folks.

[PESAM411]

haha bitching at its best
love it
FTW

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

According to people in winningelevenblog forums the fake team names are as follows:

Alashergokh F.C. (fake name) - CSKA

Logo is a crest with different colours on each side. Left is Pink with horizontal purple lines, with a lion (?) figure over it. The right it is a grey background with big dark blue letters saying 'FC'

All players from Russia

GK - Akhshilov
CB - Ljabocheva
CMF - Sveljanov
CF - Cherkepov

F.C. Kolugavinsk (fake name) - FC Krylia Sovetov (or Dynamo Moscow?)

Logo is Yellow crest with a picture of club (like what you get on a pack of cards)

all players from Russia

GK - Kashnyolov
CB - Shkipets
CMF - Krashamov
CF - Vlatokov

F.K. Ljemorac (fake name) - FC Amkar Perm

Logo is circular, with centre blue with orange eagle design, and white border

all players from Russia

GK - Cuiberdgi
CB - Jerdkov
DMF - Maytkova
CF - Zinovyev

PFC Ryagzhilograd (fake name) - FC Rubin Kazan

Funky logo. Its square with a thin green vertical line on the left. The centre is Orange, with a green character (looks like soldier toy?) holding a white ball.

All players from Russia

GK Kosaryopin
CB Mezhlenski
DMF - Petranovsk
CF Tyorkhachug

A.S. Punoichongaux (fake name) - Zurich

Logo is a crest with light grey background with 5 headed sea monster(?) in orange, with white coloured ball in the centre of it. The top says 1897

All players from Switzerland

GK - Rechard
CB - Thomodin
DMF - Montsoilai
CF - Augslingen

MFK Trnolevoce (fake name) - Galatasaray S.K.

Logo is triangle looking crest, with left side baby blue, and right side darker blue. There is a tool ( I think hammer?) in orange running through the centre separating the colours.

All players from Turkey

GK - Oznulhan
CB - Aliadzade
DMF - Somilmaz
CF - Erdotan






Not too sure this is true, could be, just thought I would post this for all the wonderers like myself.

Sorry everyone just read on and its not Galatasary its Trabzonspor


If that is true looks like Bundesliga teams aren't in:(.
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[shankly is god]

Fair enough. No need to be silly about it. Look sweet when in the game with the fill behind and adding the emblem through the editor...

Your loss mate. Look forward to seeing yours.

I was joking mate....couldnt you tell i was being sarcastic :S

[JackWhoBRA]

Ahh well, no offence taken mate.

Been doing more detailed edits of stuff, some of them are painfully hard to get right. They look sweet on Photoshop then go wierd when imported. Trying various stuff to get them right. Not long now though...

[shankly is god]

Ahh well, no offence taken mate.

Been doing more detailed edits of stuff, some of them are painfully hard to get right. They look sweet on Photoshop then go wierd when imported. Trying various stuff to get them right. Not long now though...

yea i been busy with work and carrying out my portfolio....

but when things settle down as i been very busy i will crack down on making some kits....you never know man we possibly could team up and combine a .rar file of all kits....

just an idea lol....but yea be good to compare/crit our work..

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

I was joking mate....couldnt you tell i was being sarcastic :S

I could and you weren't even talking to me.

P.S- What do you think about the apparant fake teams. If true no Bundesliga/ no Bundesliga teams. Damn I was lookig forward to Bayern Munich and Wolfsberg.

[shankly is god]

is it 100% true??? i thought you were speculating... if so that sucks

A russian GK called Akinfeev is one of the most regarded up and coming worldclass Keepers and for ages he has not appeared in pes so i create him..

and for those teams that are fake its very sad indeed but we can always fix them right

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

is it 100% true??? i thought you were speculating... if so that sucks

A russian GK called Akinfeev is one of the most regarded up and coming worldclass Keepers and for ages he has not appeared in pes so i create him..

and for those teams that are fake its very sad indeed but we can always fix them right

I am speculating (winningelevenblog forums) but I am looking forward to using Vagner Love/ CSKA Moscow.

Akinfeev is in the game mate in Russia, I signed him for my Barcelona Master League. He is top class.

Yea it says all teams are editable not licensed teams oviously on the team list.

[shankly is god]

but is he in the game for real...like official name?? I always buy him on Football Manager he is an epic Keeper, young aswell for his ability

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

but is he in the game for real...like official name?? I always buy him on Football Manager he is an epic Keeper, young aswell for his ability

Real name just not real face, but I would say great stats for a young keeper. High Eighties. For keeper things.

Russia- Akinfeev.

Edit- Epic keeper indeed.

[shankly is god]

ill have to edit his face in pes 2010....

just cant wait to play the game...getting the same vibes i did about pes 5...(not listening to all the rumors ofc)

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

ill have to edit his face in pes 2010....

just cant wait to play the game...getting the same vibes i did about pes 5...(not listening to all the rumors ofc)

Yea me too, I am going to make my own reveiw, based on me playing it.

[shankly is god]

that would be cool...then one day you can work gor a games magazine ha ha

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

that would be cool...then one day you can work gor a games magazine ha ha

Lol ament just judge the game on my own opinion when I play it I am sick with all the broken promises (cough) Perfectstrik.

But sure our own magazine- Shankly Is A Die Hard Pes Fan lol.

[Guaje]

if the game don't have rights for most of leagues and teams
then the edit mode should be extended with more options
especially the leagues and teams
we should edit the leagues description with logos
that ain't too much either there should be possibility
to customize the team kit from different angles
for example the arms area for the badges leagues such as barclays England League :p
the back side, shorts along with legs area for socks
finally and not lately when we try to save the kit data we should save the whole kit
data instead.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

if the game don't have rights for most of leagues and teams
then the edit mode should be extended with more options
especially the leagues and teams
we should edit the leagues description with logos
that ain't too much either there should be possibility
to customize the team kit from different angles
for example the arms area for the badges leagues such as barclays England League :p
the back side, shorts along with legs area for socks
finally and not lately when we try to save the kit data we should save the whole kit
data instead.

Great idea that would make Edit Mode far better.

[Rob21C_UK]

Great idea that would make Edit Mode far better.

Sounds like the PES6 (PC/PS2) kit edit mode, which isn't a bad thing ;)

One thing I'd like to see is Other Teams B being empty from the start, with a icon at the top saying "Create Team". Once you press the icon you get the normal Edit team menu allowing you to change kit/stadium etc. Then once you save your team it appears in Other Teams B below the Create Team icon, allowing you to create as many custom teams as your hard drive space allows.

[joshjg]

Sounds like the PES6 (PC/PS2) kit edit mode, which isn't a bad thing ;)

One thing I'd like to see is Other Teams B being empty from the start, with a icon at the top saying "Create Team". Once you press the icon you get the normal Edit team menu allowing you to change kit/stadium etc. Then once you save your team it appears in Other Teams B below the Create Team icon, allowing you to create as many custom teams as your hard drive space allows.

a good idea.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Sounds like the PES6 (PC/PS2) kit edit mode, which isn't a bad thing ;)

One thing I'd like to see is Other Teams B being empty from the start, with a icon at the top saying "Create Team". Once you press the icon you get the normal Edit team menu allowing you to change kit/stadium etc. Then once you save your team it appears in Other Teams B below the Create Team icon, allowing you to create as many custom teams as your hard drive space allows.

Another great idea.

[Desijut]

why cant they let you make unlimited amount of teams? As long your hard drive can fit it, it should be ok

[shankly is god]

Lol ament just judge the game on my own opinion when I play it I am sick with all the broken promises (cough) Perfectstrik.

But sure our own magazine- Shankly Is A Die Hard Pes Fan lol.

I could wing up a pes magazine...see how it goes with people permission to make it a comunity one....

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

I could wing up a pes magazine...see how it goes with people permission to make it a comunity one....

I was joking but could be fun.

[shankly is god]

you have been yellow carded more times then roy keane

[Desijut]

^

*Drumroll*

ROFL that was a good one, still laughing at it

he double posts too much...

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

you have been yellow carded more times then roy keane

Yes I no, I dont understand double posting that much.

Someone explain so I fully understand.

Edit-Or just tell me how to avoid it, like when not to post after myself

[The Liverpool Way]

@ JackWhoBR- Those kits look good, i'll try them when you make the thread. BTW When are you making the thread and where will you post it? What section?

[The Liverpool Way]

you have been yellow carded more times then roy keane

Yh lol - I didn't know that was possible!

[shankly is god]

im sure there will be a thread that is made called PES 2010 edit mode or finished files...thats where people will upload OF's kit templates for your pes 2010

and Die hard mate....if you post the same thread twice thats a yellow card also if you post then realize you left something out and made a new thread instead of editing your current one....

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

im sure there will be a thread that is made called PES 2010 edit mode or finished files...thats where people will upload OF's kit templates for your pes 2010

and Die hard mate....if you post the same thread twice thats a yellow card also if you post then realize you left something out and made a new thread instead of editing your current one....

Thats funny though I always edit my posts instead of making a new one. But I dont know I post the same thing twice.

Mods must be out to get me.:ninja:

[Foxhound]

Thats funny though I always edit my posts instead of making a new one. But I dont know I post the same thing twice.

Mods must be out to get me.:ninja:

If you accidentally make the same post twice, you can edit the second one and write something like "please delete this post". The mods will let you off and you'll get away without getting a yellow card.

[Amateur]

found this on PESFan by 'Scott Willz'

"WENB Edit Mode News

First of all lets discuss Kits. Like in PES 2009, you have 81 different templates with 4 different layers. While its the same, Konami have updated the templates to accommodate 09/10 designs. So, the new umbro (Everton) and puma designs (Tottenham Hotspur) are easily made.

Another good thing is that the ‘home made’ kits really hold up against the licensed ones. I managed to make the Everton kits for example, and they look as good as the real thing.

Staying with teams, there is now the possibility to have 8 different chants per team! 5 from normal, gameplay moments AND 3 for specific occasions - After you score, taking set-pieces, and after a victory.

Onto player editing. You now, as you are aware of I’m sure, are able to untuck and tuck in shirts. There’s also the return of 4 dribbling animations, the same as the PS2 ones with the next-gen sheen. Unfortunately, you still can’t edit facial hair on players already in the game.

Onto boots.

Right now the boots in the game are as follows:

Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG White
Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG Black
F50 Tunit Blue
Adidas Adipure Black
Nike CTR360 Maestri FG Black/Red
Mecurial Vapor Superfly Orion Blue
T90 Laser Silver/Black/Red
Tiempo Legend FG White/ Blue
Puma V1.08 White/Blue
Puma V-konstruct III White/Blue
Umbro Speciali Black

Then you have 13 slots of random boots, giving us a total of 24 boots. No editable boots then, but I’m very confident the 13 slots will represent them.

Thats all I have right now. Seeing as the code is 75% complete, I’m sure there will be a few more additions to edit mode before release."

In other words, the edit mode pretty much remains the same, with some limitations that the PS2 didn't have... that's so not cool.

PESFan: "There’s also the return of 4 dribbling animations, the same as the PS2 ones with the next-gen sheen"

Who are they kidding, the "4 dribbling animations" have been in the game since PES08. PESFan are full of shite, and clearly do not take their fans seriously.

I would be thrilled if Konami actually did something NEW,

Like for example, divide movement into 5 types of Lower Body Movement and 5 types of Upper Body Movements. So that we can have a potential 25 variations in movements, instead of just 5 variations.

Or if not, Konami could have simply expanded on the old 4 dribbling animations... maybe add some additional 3 dribbling animations.

Now that would be something news-worthy. But so far, the PS3 edit mode sounds like more of the same. It's not even disappointing anymore.

PESFan: "Onto player editing. You now, as you are aware of I’m sure, are able to untuck and tuck in shirts. Unfortunately, you still can’t edit facial hair on players already in the game."

So, we get something we already had back in the PS2 versions -but- we cannot even edit facial hair on players already in the game. That's great... even more so when we consider that Konami have also removed the old "preset faces".

Player Editing has gone to shit since going Next Gen. Now, the only viable option when creating players is with the printed faces or built faces, faces that always end up looking bad and extremely generic.

And what about the old Special Hairstyles, were you could find Classic Hairstyles such as Baggio's trademark ponytail and Valderrama's trademark afro, etc, etc.

I think it's unexplainable, even shocking, that the PS3 games don't have all this old features. And in fact have less features, and have even replaced useful "old" features with useless "new" ones.

Bottom Line is, that for every improvement -they- remove some older features. In other words, it's not really an improvement.

[proevofan88]

In other words, the edit mode pretty much remains the same, with some limitations that the PS2 didn't have... that's so not cool.

PESFan: "There’s also the return of 4 dribbling animations, the same as the PS2 ones with the next-gen sheen"

Who are they kidding, the "4 dribbling animations" have been in the game since PES08. PESFan are full of shite, and clearly do not take their fans seriously.

I would be thrilled if Konami actually did something NEW,

Like for example, divide movement into 5 types of Lower Body Movement and 5 types of Upper Body Movements. So that we can have a potential 25 variations in movements, instead of just 5 variations.

Or if not, Konami could have simply expanded on the old 4 dribbling animations... maybe add some additional 3 dribbling animations.

Now that would be something news-worthy. But so far, the PS3 edit mode sounds like more of the same. It's not even disappointing anymore.

PESFan: "Onto player editing. You now, as you are aware of I’m sure, are able to untuck and tuck in shirts. Unfortunately, you still can’t edit facial hair on players already in the game."

So, we get something we have back in the PS2 versions -but- we cannot even edit facial hair on players already in the game. That's great... even more so when we consider that Konami have also removed the old "preset faces".

Player Editing has gone to shit since going Next Gen. Now, the only viable option when creating players is with the printed faces or built faces, faces that always end up looking bad and extremely generic.

And what about the old Special Hairstyles, were you could find Classic Hairstyles such as Baggio's trademark ponytail and Valderrama's trademark afro, etc, etc.

I think it's unexplainable, even shocking, that the PS3 games don't have all this old features. And in fact have less features, and have even replaced useful "old' features with useless "new" features.

Bottom Line is, that for every improvement -they- remove some older features. In other words, it's not really an improvement.

Yeh PESFAN and WENB are a big joke. They are in KONAMIS pocket...

The only people you should trust is SUFF ( who is from WENB but he very honest ) and CANNIGIA.

Both have siad the game is very good now. Coming from those two, thats a huge plus.

About the edit mode: I thought PES2009 had very solid edit mode.

I'm all about gameplay though, so everything else ( CL, EL, EDIT MODE, ONLINE, etc. ) is a huge bonus for me.

[Amateur]

Yeh PESFAN and WENB are a big joke. They are in KONAMIS pocket...

The only people you should trust is SUFF ( who is from WENB but he very honest ) and CANNIGIA.

Both have siad the game is very good now. Coming from those two, thats a huge plus.

About the edit mode: I thought PES2009 had very solid edit mode.

I'm all about gameplay though, so everything else ( CL, EL, EDIT MODE, ONLINE, etc. ) is a huge bonus for me.

Yeah, but I mainly use the Edit Mode to create players... and in that particular area PES09 failed, no preset faces, you cannot change facial hair on faces already in the game, no special hairstyles, etc, etc.

Perhaps the Kit editor was good enough, but I cannot understand why the Face editor was actually better in the PS2 games.

It's one of the first things I do, first day I play 2 to 3 hours of the game, perhaps even more... Second day, I go to the editing mode and start looking for Faces and Hairstyles, so that I can create accurate-looking versions of my all-time favorite players.

Maradona, Pele, George Best, Johan Cruyff, Valderrama, etc, etc. I mostly try to play as my all-time XI... but I don't like to play with generic-looking players.

The thing that I have always liked the most about PES are the Player Likenesses, so naturally, I like to play as my favorite players. So the face editor is more than just a "bonus" for me.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

[QUOTE=proevofan88;
About the edit mode: I thought PES2009 had very solid edit mode.[/QUOTE]

So did I, maybe just afew more variations in kits etc.

[JackWhoBRA]

Has anyone played UFC where you can add sponsors to your shorts in a certain location and size? Think that would be great for PES shorts so we could add emblem and manufacturer to them. All we need is 2 boxes really and the number!

[shankly is god]

UFC is very limited tho on sponsors...

[GoonerJosh80]

I just want to add I think it is a bit poo that in this age with the capacity the console hard drives have that the edit mode does not allow us to make any kit we wnat 100% accuratley. I will sitll buy Pro Evo if it plays well but I will be so disappointed if we have no editable gk gloves

Konami really need to take the edit mode to a next gen level as mentioned earlier the four stylesa of running movement have been present since PES 4 you think they would have added another 10 on top of that or maybe done some of the suggestions other players have about editing the movement.

Mods coulds you please move this into the Konami feedback zone I would be eternally greatful.

Cheers

:D

[JackWhoBRA]

I just want to add I think it is a bit poo that in this age with the capacity the console hard drives have that the edit mode does not allow us to make any kit we wnat 100% accuratley. I will sitll buy Pro Evo if it plays well but I will be so disappointed if we have no editable gk gloves

Konami really need to take the edit mode to a next gen level as mentioned earlier the four stylesa of running movement have been present since PES 4 you think they would have added another 10 on top of that or maybe done some of the suggestions other players have about editing the movement.

Mods coulds you please move this into the Konami feedback zone I would be eternally greatful.

Cheers

:D

100% Agree with movements! They need to sort their act out with this.

Goalkeeper gloves are (from what I've heard licensed) but not sure whether we can select for each keeper. That would would be sweet though.

Editable GKG and Boots. Not asking much are we?!

[themaestro]

Are the gk gloves nicer than last seasons?

[JackWhoBRA]

I've just started a new editing thread. Your input and knowledge would be greatly appreciated!

Please take a look.

Player 'SHIRT NAMES' Database... (http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?p=1532384)

Thanks.