What are you going to do first?

[The Liverpool Way]

What are you going to do first on PES2010 when you get it?

I'm going strait for a match, Liverpool vs Everton(Boooo)

Then Liverpool vs ManUtd(Booo) and Then Liverpool vs Barca

Then i'm heading to the edit mode to see if there are any changes.:shocking:

:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t :w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

What are you going to do first on PES2010 when you get it?

I'm going strait for a match, Liverpool vs Everton(Boooo)

Then Liverpool vs ManUtd(Booo) and Then Liverpool vs Barca

Then i'm heading to the edit mode to see if there are any changes.:shocking:

:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t :w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t

I'm heading straight for edit mode lol.

[Mullet Taylor]

im gonna get right into a master league with Celtic (yay). then play against rangers (booo)

:)

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

im gonna get right into a master league with Celtic (yay). then play against rangers (booo)

:)

Rangers (yay)- Celtic (boo) lol.

52 and counting!

[Dale C.]

Straight into Exhibition mode, Blues (yayyy) vs Villa (booooo)

Then after I thrash them, jump into master league, where I will spend my remaining time playing the game lol

[The Liverpool Way]

I'm heading straight for edit mode lol.

lol edit mode is good on PES, can't resist taking a peak before you actually play a match LOL.:)

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

lol edit mode is good on PES, can't resist taking a peak before you actually play a match LOL.:)

Ano the boots:w00t I have to go through every team (p remier league and
other big teams, Barcelona etc) and edit every player to their correct boots lol sad ano.
I headed straight into a game with Man City and the transfers wernt done. In 2009.

[Janus909]

i'll be logging straight online!!!!!!!! :realmad: it better be lag free!!

[MysteryMan]

Edit mode and check all the players from the big clubs and their faces etc.. and to see if there are any additions in the edit mode.

[The Liverpool Way]

Ano the boots:w00t I have to go through every team (p remier league and
other big teams, Barcelona etc) and edit every player to their correct boots lol sad ano.
I headed straight into a game with Man City and the transfers wernt done.

I'll be checking up on the boots/players/kits/names etc etc too.:happy:

Not before I play a game or two though.

[Rob21C_UK]

Edit mode and check all the players from the big clubs and their faces etc.. and to see if there are any additions in the edit mode.

Usually get pics from all the top team players a week or so before release. :)

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Usually get pics from all the top team players a week or so before release. :)

What a patch or Konami release pics.

[Desijut]

North London (Arsenal) vs Man U (sort out tactics for Arsenal first) and keep playing until im comforatble on Top player, takes a week whilst doing this i may change opposition to chelsea, liverpool, barca, real or any other big team. I will be tweaking arsenal tactics to my liking.

Then i will get the von option file and start master league with Arsenal

:s I didn't give away who i support did I? :s

[The Liverpool Way]

What a patch or Konami release pics.

I think he meant Konami release pics of players and you can see thier faces clearly;)

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

I think he meant Konami release pics of players and you can see thier faces clearly;)

Oh right cheers. Cant wait to see edit mode for myself tho.

Have you seen the boot list its on winningelevenblog.com

[The Dude]

go to edit mode ....then play a match of fulham(yay) and chelsea(boo)

[commandos]

play an exibition match or two with AC Milan of course and then I want to Become a legend :D

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

go to edit mode ....then play a match of fulham(yay) and chelsea(boo)

I see you support HSV Hamberg if they are in the game are you going to be them?

[The Liverpool Way]

Oh right cheers. Cant wait to see edit mode for myself tho.

Have you seen the boot list its on winningelevenblog.com

Have you got a direct link to the boot list on winningelevenblog.com?:happy:

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Have you got a direct link to the boot list on winningelevenblog.com?:happy:

I dont know how to give links sorry but I'll so a copy and paste for you.

[StringerBell]

im gonna get right into a master league with Celtic (yay). then play against rangers (booo)

:)

:laugh:


First thing I'm gonna do with Marsielle (yay) against Bordeaux (boo) then get right into that edit mode

[shankly is god]

Im feeling a little bit cheated here ha ha ha someone must have seen me and die hard talking about this....

after editing ima do what every RED must do and kick the shizz out of everton!

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Right now the boots in the game are as follows:

Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG White
Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG Black
F50 Tunit Blue
Adidas Adipure Black
Nike CTR360 Maestri FG Black/Red
Mecurial Vapor Superfly Orion Blue
T90 Laser Silver/Black/Red
Tiempo Legend FG White/ Blue
Puma V1.08 White/Blue
Puma V-konstruct III White/Blue
Umbro Speciali Black

Then you have 13 slots of random boots, giving us a total of 24 boots. No editable boots then, but I’m very confident the 13 slots will represent them




Sounds pretty good to me.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Im feeling a little bit cheated here ha ha ha someone must have seen me and die hard talking about this....

after editing ima do what every RED must do and kick the shizz out of everton!

Ano those copying bastards lol.

[The Liverpool Way]

Im feeling a little bit cheated here ha ha ha someone must have seen me and die hard talking about this....

after editing ima do what every RED must do and kick the shizz out of everton!

To shankly is god and die hard:

Sorry.... I was reading yours and die hards posts and I was waiting for someone to post the thread but no one did, so I just made one:rolleyes:

Sorry again....

[shankly is god]

Right now the boots in the game are as follows:

Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG White
Adidas Predator Swerve X-TRX SG Black
F50 Tunit Blue
Adidas Adipure Black
Nike CTR360 Maestri FG Black/Red
Mecurial Vapor Superfly Orion Blue
T90 Laser Silver/Black/Red
Tiempo Legend FG White/ Blue
Puma V1.08 White/Blue
Puma V-konstruct III White/Blue
Umbro Speciali Black

Then you have 13 slots of random boots, giving us a total of 24 boots. No editable boots then, but I’m very confident the 13 slots will represent them




Sounds pretty good to me.


yer i just hope its better than the ps2 boot editor .... creating diff colours of basicly the same boot...sucked big style

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Sorry.... I was reading yours and die hards posts and I was waiting for someone to post the thread but no one did, so I just made one:rolleyes:

Sorry again....

No problems, I would of done it if I wasnt booked.

[shankly is god]

Sorry.... I was reading yours and die hards posts and I was waiting for someone to post the thread but no one did, so I just made one:rolleyes:

Sorry again....

ha ha no worries kidda... was just saying thats all....

[The Liverpool Way]

hey i know this is kind of off topic but --

Sony have just announced that the PS3 Slim is coming out..

[shankly is god]

^^ yea read about it..not really bothered my 80gb one suits just fine.....

[The Liverpool Way]

^^ yea read about it..not really bothered my 80gb one suits just fine.....

Yh the only difference is that it will be slimmer and lighter.
Its not like people are going to carry around thier PS3s so i'm just fine with my 80GB one too lol :)

[shaun7]

I think I will play 1 or 2 matches then start ML.

[Dragonfly]

On the first day, I usually play a few exhibition games, have a look at the new features and have a quick go on edit mode.

[ads]

Pop it in the machine, fire her up, realise it's another let down and go trade it for FIFA probably :(

[lfc_est.1892]

i'll load up pes edit all of the teams so that they have all correct names, then i'll see how the master league compares to last seasons and finally after a couple of hours on ML start playing become a legend.

[Baddar]

Pop it in the machine, fire her up, realise it's another let down and go trade it for FIFA probably :(

Alright, Mr. Negativity. :P

[The Liverpool Way]

Pop it in the machine, fire her up, realise it's another let down and go trade it for FIFA probably :(


You have'nt even played the game yet. Besides I think PES2010 is going to be awesome.:)

[oliseh]

Play a couple of matches, then a quick check of the edit mode (e.g. player stats change, teams to edit, etc.) then start a ML with the default team (I find it the best way to learn the basics of the game - play with lousy players). After a season or so, try to finalise the edit (or as good as possible) and start a ML with Arsenal.

[Blade1889]

I always start with a few games on exhibition mode just to see what the new gameplay is like and what the changes are. I'll play a few derbies like Celtic v Rangers, Villa v Brum, Liv v Man U.

Then I might start a Europa or Champs lg campaign with Man City. I won't start either Masters League or BAL until a month or so in. I like to get used to the gameplay and do some editing b4 I start the main campaigns.

I really can't wait though. Masters League sounds amazing this year!!! :)

[The Liverpool Way]

I always start with a few games on exhibition mode just to see what the new gameplay is like and what the changes are. I'll play a few derbies like Celtic v Rangers, Villa v Brum, Liv v Man U.

Then I might start a Europa or Champs lg campaign with Man City. I won't start either Masters League or BAL until a month or so in. I like to get used to the gameplay and do some editing b4 I start the main campaigns.

I really can't wait though. Masters League sounds amazing this year!!! :)

Liverpool(yay) vs Man Utd(boo) is'nt a derby game.

Liverpools(yay) derby games are with everton(boo)

But the games vs Man Utd (boo) do feel like derbys because of the rivalry so your kind of right lol.

Oh and I agree with the Master League - It will be amazing in PES 2010!

[Blade1889]

Liverpool(yay) vs Man Utd(boo) is'nt a derby game.

Liverpools(yay) derby games are with everton(boo)

But the games vs Man Utd (boo) do feel like derbys because of the rivalry so your kind of right lol.

Oh and I agree with the Master League - It will be amazing in PES 2010!

Well guess it's a bit like Sheff Utd (yay) v Leeds (boooooo) in that way. I know Man U v Liverpool is not the Merseyside derby but they're close enough to be a kind of derby. Like us against Leeds. Our proper derby is against Sheff W******y but the game against Leeds is always a bit of a derby too.

[Rob21C_UK]

Well I can't do my usual first game this year so I will probably play as England v Brazil, a few other exhibition games, check out the edit mode and then quit the game and start looking through the game files to find where all the logos, emblems and kits are stored.

[eMerica]

Straight into editing hoping that player like Balotelli, G. Johnson, Wilshire, Vela, Ngog, Jefferen, Pedro, Busquets etc etc... have actual likeness for faces. That will make my master league more fun.

[The Liverpool Way]

Straight into editing hoping that player like Balotelli, G. Johnson, Wilshire, Vela, Ngog, Jefferen, Pedro, Busquets etc etc... have actual likeness for faces. That will make my master league more fun.

Yh for some reason having all the players look how they are in real life makes PES better :)

PES will always beat FIFA when it comes to faces lol

[shankly is god]

yea ill be on the edit mode for a good few hours doing all the kits from around the leagues.. then if anyone who i feel has wrong boots..and looks... then stats....

then the Mighty reds against the shitty blues!! ha ha

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

yea ill be on the edit mode for a good few hours doing all the kits from around the leagues.. then if anyone who i feel has wrong boots..and looks... then stats....

then the Mighty reds against the shitty blues!! ha ha

Me too edit mode for a few hour editing kits in P remier League first then the players boots, then other teams kits.

The either Rangers vs Celtic or Northern Ireland vs Republic of Ireland.

[shankly is god]

so a celtic win and ROI win :P

[Trevi]

Exhibition game with Mexico and then Editing for a few months :D

[shankly is god]

^^ comitted arnt we lol......i constantly edit....

what i do, do how ever usually as a game comes to the end of its life is make Super nation teams...

in 2009 i had

England team in aston villa

then spanish in athletico madrid

also argintina's best in boca etc

just adds a bit of spice ya know

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

so a celtic win and ROI win :P

Dont be silly!

Rangers and NI, Kris Boyd and David Healy hat-tricks.

[shankly is god]

you dirty Blue ha ha

you need green white and orange blood running through you mun same as me

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

you dirty Blue ha ha

you need green white and orange blood running through you mun same as me

Nah you need Red, White and Blue through your blood mate lol.

[The Dude]

I see you support HSV if they are in the game are you going to be them?

i didnt see any germen clubs on the teams list ....so i guess not ...let down

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

i didnt see any germen clubs on the teams list ....so i guess not ...let down

I was guessing they were the teams with fake names. Because apparantly EA has the rights.

[shankly is god]

you can always edit A free slot to add HSV and add them to ML its not really a let down more of a obligated challange....down to you if your into editing....i kno i will be releasing an OF if people want ofc..

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

you can always edit A free slot to add HSV and add them to ML its not really a let down more of a obligated challange....down to you if your into editing....i kno i will be releasing an OF if people want ofc..

I dont use Option Files or any of that stuff, DONT KNOW HOW TO and enjoy doing it myself.

I know you wernt talking to me but anyway.

[shankly is god]

lol im talking to YOU AND ONLY YOU ha ha...

but no im stating as if you owned a ps3 with full edit capabilities....

I often do the kits my self and have never released it...but i may do

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

lol im talking to YOU AND ONLY YOU ha ha...

but no im stating as if you owned a ps3 with full edit capabilities....

I often do the kits my self and have never released it...but i may do

I bolded DONT KNOW HOW TO as a hint for someone to explain to me (in idiots guide) how to use them lol.

[shankly is god]

well basicly you DL an option file and add it to your game :S simple as...it wont delete your prev game saves so your banging out the game at maz volumes ha ha

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

well basicly you DL an option file and add it to your game :S simple as...it wont delete your prev game saves so your banging out the game at maz volumes ha ha

Cheers, new thread by the way, about Master Leagues.

[shankly is god]

yea you know what im going to say.....

[Ravex]

Well, hopefully there will have been an option file or alternatively some way to assign new GDB kits to the game by the time I get it.

But in the game... Become a Legend all the way baby.

[The Liverpool Way]

^^ Aren't you getting PES 2010 on release?

[turnburger]

im gona have an exhabition match on top player obviously and maybe start my ML not actually play the first game and create my bal player JADE GOODY.

[The Liverpool Way]

im gona have an exhabition match on top player obviously and maybe start my ML not actually play the first game and create my bal player JADE GOODY.

Jade Goody? WTF that is random. :no:

[iosonocanadese]

Likely I'll go and edit Canada like I did last year first thing...

Also, I read somewhere that on the 360 version of PES you can't do the thing where you upload files like kits and badges using a USB memory stick...? Can anyone confirm or deny this?

[The Liverpool Way]

Likely I'll go and edit Canada like I did last year first thing...

Also, I read somewhere that on the 360 version of PES you can't do the thing where you upload files like kits and badges using a USB memory stick...? Can anyone confirm or deny this?

I think only on PS3 you can upload pictures/files of kits and badges.

PS3 Edit Mode is like on PC.

You can't do it on XBOX360.:no:

[iosonocanadese]

Laaaame. Microsoft is the bane of my life. :(

[CDDRodrigo]

The first ever thing I'll do is edit the options, then edit the stats of the mais teams (Real, Barça, England top 4, Italy top 4, potentialy Germany top 4, etc)

[Ravex]

^^ Aren't you getting PES 2010 on release?

Crossing my fingers for people to start making kits and stuff as early as demo release ^^

[Rob21C_UK]

Crossing my fingers for people to start making kits and stuff as early as demo release ^^

As soon as I grab the demo I look through the game files to grab kit files and I'm sure I'm not the only one :)

[shankly is god]

Crossing my fingers for people to start making kits and stuff as early as demo release ^^

I always make kits for my game as i hate having just plain teams..i may upload one complete OF and then do requests

[PESAM411]

edit mode straight away, i checked my stats the other day and ive spent more time in edit mode than i have in exebition or lague mode :S, thats bad, but i enjoy it

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

edit mode straight away, i checked my stats the other day and ive spent more time in edit mode than i have in exebition or lague mode :S, thats bad, but i enjoy it

I'll second that!:D

[pro evo champ]

Gota have a blast with real madrid see how good they are now????? Cmon uno every1 wants too.

After its straight to master league/ online
Arsenal all the way!!!

[PESAM411]

EDIT MODE

then exibition match

then master league with arsenal

im a spurs man, but do master leagues with gunners
:S

[proevofan88]

EDIT MODE

then exibition match

then master league with arsenal

im a spurs man, but do master leagues with gunners
:S

Lol...

How do you work that out?

[THRILLA_CFC]

(1) :I'm gonna check if online is any good this season.
(2) :Edit Mode.
(3) :2 Exhibition matches 1st is Chelsea vs Real Madrid, playing with Chelsea which i support, then a match with Real Madrid vs Chelsea, just to feel how Real Madrid feels.
(4) :Check on the net to c if any genius has done any OF's cause this makes Pes so much better, Von's one last year was pucker.
(5) : Start my Legends Mode.

[tandeh]

United vs City exhibition of course, vs Dippers next, vs Madrid and Barca after that, then Online test.

[The Liverpool Way]

(1) :I'm gonna check if online is any good this season.
(2) :Edit Mode.
(3) :2 Exhibition matches 1st is Chelsea vs Real Madrid, playing with Chelsea which i support, then a match with Real Madrid vs Chelsea, just to feel how Real Madrid feels.
(4) :Check on the net to c if any genius has done any OF's cause this makes Pes so much better, Von's one last year was pucker.
(5) : Start my Legends Mode.


How long is it before a good option file comes ?

The game is coming out on 23rd, so when does a option file usually come out? I made my own Option File on PES2009 so I don't know how long after the game is released...

I might get an option file off this site for PES2010 :)

[shankly is god]

ill be making an OF over the weekend that it comes out so look towards monday after release

[The Liverpool Way]

ill be making an OF over the weekend that it comes out so look towards monday after release

OK I look forward to your OF :)

[muzza798]

Pray to Alah i didnt buy Fifa.

It doesnt look like much of an improvement on 2009 in terms of gameplay to me but i feel that the modes, graphics and online have enough to merit me buying it over fifa this year. The turning, kicking of the ball, the ball its-self and the player models are still pretty poor imo.

[danzine]

play BAL see if the characters physical traits make a difference to his stats (please please)

choose barca/ R.madrid offline cut back cut back cut back

go online

choose barca/ R.madrid cut back cut back cut back



if slag play is the only thing that works and there are again superhuman players im getting fifia

[PESFan92]

I'm gonna head to edit mode, Look at the new changes and that.

I will then sort out any transfers that haven't been done, followed by the team tatics.

Head to Exhibition:

West Ham vs Tottenham
West Ham vs Chelsea
West Ham vs Man Utd
West Ham vs Liverpool


I will then create Dagenham & Redbridge and then start 2 Master Leagues with West Ham & The Daggers.

[shankly is god]

^^ what about west ham v millwal ?

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

^^ what about west ham v millwal ?

Dont think you can start a riot in 2010.

[shankly is god]

yea but you can lose to millwal which is the prefered result

[PESFan92]

I would create the scum and do a West Ham vs Scum match but to be honest, I can't be bothered wasting my time, batteries on creating such a shit team.

[Zest0]

1.edit mode
2.exhibition
3.ML

[muzza798]

I would create the scum and do a West Ham vs Scum match but to be honest, I can't be bothered wasting my time, batteries on creating such a shit team.

Buy rechargables They last forever.

[Rainey]

Load the game, watch the intro video. Play a match with wee brother. Then check out edit mode

[Iniesta]

Play an exhibition match between Arsenal and Real Madrid to see how the controls, graphics, general gameplay etc., is. Then I'll go edit some of the players and make sure all stats and appearances are up to scratch. Then I'll start Master League and MAYBE 'Be a Legend' mode. Can't wait for the new game.

[muzza798]

Play Madrid v Barca, do my BAL player, check out boots and stuff, check online + play 1 match and then run around the house with absolute glee that i have the best pes to date.

[Iniesta]

Play Madrid v Barca, do my BAL player, check out boots and stuff, check online + play 1 match and then run around the house with absolute glee that i have the best pes to date.

You won't be running around with glee after you've done that bit.

[muzza798]

You won't be running around with glee after you've done that bit.

what bit

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

what bit

My guess is play a match.

[Iniesta]

Play online. The highlighted bit.

[The Liverpool Way]

Oh yh i'm going to start Become A Legend and make myself on the first day too lol.
Then go to edit mode and check that everything is how I want it to be :)
I Might not go crazy on the edit mode at first because I wanna try out someones' Option File. If I don't like it then i'll go crazy ib edit mode and make my own ha

[The Liverpool Way]

Buy rechargables They last forever.

el(L) (O)w E(L)!!!!

[ProfessorPS]

Edit mode, then edit mode, some more edit mode then probably a go on edit mode and i'll might go on edit mode aswell and then master league and then edit mode and edit mode again.

[smudger1000]

I am Definitely going straight into exhibition mode and picking Real Madrid since there team is unbelievable this season (even though im a united fan) I cannot wait to use Real and Barce on the new PES.

[The Liverpool Way]

Your picking Real Madrid before even playing with your own team.....:stupid:

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Your picking Real Madrid before even playing with your own team.....:stupid:

I have got five conclusions:

1) He is a part-time supporter.

2) He is one of the creeps who wants to get used to using Real Madrid so he can be prepard for online with them.

3) He follows Cristiano Ronaldo.

4) He likes Real Madrid.

5) It is his choice and he wants to use Real Madrid.

Number 5 is my guess.

[Trevi]

I like Real Madrid because my father used to wake me up so that we could watch Hugo Sanchez play.

I like Manchester United because I saw Cantona, and Beckham there and they were just hypnotizing.

I like Lyon, because they were devastating and watching Juninho take a free kick made my day.

I like Werder Bremen because Wise was just so impressive and Diego and they played so diagonally.

I like Milan and PES for the same reason, because a like football; Milan lets me watch good football and PES lets me submerge myself in it.

I hate Boca Juniors and will never play with them.

But I’m Mexican and my heart is with Mexico so I guess after editing, I will play with Mexico. I might not get to play with Werder Bremen but I will make sure to leave Manchester United till last because it is the one I like the most.

So maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t be passing judgment on what a Manchester United supporter believes should be the first team he plays with. And maybe, I shouldn’t be bothering you with this, but it’s just that it bothered me a little.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

I like Real Madrid because my father used to wake me up so that we could watch Hugo Sanchez play.

I like Manchester United because I saw Cantona, and Beckham there and they were just hypnotizing.

I like Lyon, because they were devastating and watching Juninho take a free kick made my day.

I like Werder Bremen because Wise was just so impressive and Diego and they played so diagonally.

I like Milan and PES for the same reason, because a like football; Milan lets me watch good football and PES lets me submerge myself in it.

I hate Boca Juniors and will never play with them.

But I’m Mexican and my heart is with Mexico so I guess after editing, I will play with Mexico. I might not get to play with Werder Bremen but I will make sure to leave Manchester United till last because it is the one I like the most.

So maybe, just maybe, you shouldn’t be passing judgment on what a Manchester United supporter believes should be the first team he plays with. And maybe, I shouldn’t be bothering you with this, but it’s just that it bothered me a little.

Yea ano, I said I believe he wants to be Real Madrid because he justs wants to be them. Well thats what I meant to say.

[Trevi]

Yes, I undestood your post, I was talking about The Liverpools Way's Post.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Yes, I undestood your post, I was talking about The Liverpools Way's Post.

Oh right, no sweat.

[ieyan]

straight to exhibition mode..inter vs barca then liverpool vs real madrid..
:chick:

[sjrcthe3rd]

Ino this is wierd but I will be going straight into 'Training Mode' so I can see if they have added anything new. For some reason I like the training mode in PES 5 more than any other.

[Die Hard Pes Fan]

Ino this is wierd but I will be going straight into 'Training Mode' so I can see if they have added anything new. For some reason I like the training mode in PES 5 more than any other.

Thats fine, thats what you want to do, you do it, its not weird, what is weird is that I go ito Edit Mode and edit most players boots.

[The Liverpool Way]

Hey i'd just like to apologise for what I said earlier about picking Real Madrid and so on.
I admit that I should have thought before I posted that and i've kind of learnt a little lesson lol. So yh i'm sorry.... You guys are right anyone can play with whatever team they want to play with.
Even after reading that post i'm thinking about playing with Madrid now too lol. So basically sorry to anyone who got annoyed with my comment, I apologise.
:)

[muzza798]

Go straight to edit mode and sort Henry out. For some reason nor PES or Fifa can get him right. Both fail to sort out his dribbling animation and in PES i hate the way he shoots and his boots.

[stottmeister]

exhibition mode, spurs v maybe anderleicht or someone else from other leagues A. then i will probably see that kranjcar isn't there, we still have chimbonda and lennons speed isn't quite as impressive as i'd like it to be. this will lead me into edit mode where i will probably be staying so i'll make sure i get a brew ready before i start.

[muzza798]

exhibition mode, spurs v maybe anderleicht or someone else from other leagues A. then i will probably see that kranjcar isn't there, we still have chimbonda and lennons speed isn't quite as impressive as i'd like it to be. this will lead me into edit mode where i will probably be staying so i'll make sure i get a brew ready before i start.

I admire you for not doing a,
[Enter powerhouse team name] vs [Enter powerhouse team name]

I just saw this but didnt want to open a new thread:


"The PES fanbase is thankfully very vociferous in their PES tastes, and has proved essential in the development of the new game. Everything from the way nets bulge to the - GOALKEEPERS' GLOVES -has come under scrutiny, and all feedback has been shown to Japan who have met many of the requests in the new 2010 edition. It’s the return of the king.””

- John Murphy

Unless by some stoke of imense luck they have proper keeper gloves in the game John Murphy will just look foolish for saying and aknowlegeing the gloves have come under scrutiny but not doing anything about it when at the same time other things are being improved that have had bad press.

[stottmeister]

i usually do a match, home leg-away leg, and go off goal difference, maybe odd but hey, who cares. spurs are my obvious first choice and my opponents are usually a european team we have some history with.

as for the gloves, i'm sure i read on here somewhere they will have branded gloves

[The Liverpool Way]

I admire you for not doing a,
[Enter powerhouse team name] vs [Enter powerhouse team name]

I just saw this but didnt want to open a new thread:


"The PES fanbase is thankfully very vociferous in their PES tastes, and has proved essential in the development of the new game. Everything from the way nets bulge to the - GOALKEEPERS' GLOVES -has come under scrutiny, and all feedback has been shown to Japan who have met many of the requests in the new 2010 edition. It?s the return of the king.??

- John Murphy

Unless by some stoke of imense luck they have proper keeper gloves in the game John Murphy will just look foolish for saying and aknowlegeing the gloves have come under scrutiny but not doing anything about it when at the same time other things are being improved that have had bad press.

Yh I saw that a few days ago. The gloves have to be better now lol.
If not, there will be some very unhappy people............

[Jahromi 10]

Im going to Edit, hope there are alot MORE Boots in the game, for example in pes 9, there were one vapours, 1 predator 1 total 90. etc.

[retrofooze]

set up 2 hdtvs next to each other, one with sky sports on, other with pes2010. get a load of take away, booze and weed. then spend the next 12 hours playing 3v3 with my mates.

doesnt anyone else here have friends to play with? lol

[The Liverpool Way]

set up 2 hdtvs next to each other, one with sky sports on, other with pes2010. get a load of take away, booze and weed. then spend the next 12 hours playing 3v3 with my mates.

doesnt anyone else here have friends to play with? lol

lol yh but they all play fifa and don't like PES.
I ask why they don't want to play and the usual answer is ''pes dont have liverpool'' or ''pes dont have ever**n''
I say ''there both in pes!''
they say ''fifa is better''
lol they never answer my questions right!!

i've got a few mates to turn to pes over fifa cuz I say pes sponsers liverpool lol and they cant resist getting pes knowing that torres is on cover haha!

but most of the time i end up playin fifa at mates instead of pes :( on a crappy tv
wen they can play pes on 1080 hdtv at mine loooooool

[worm]

i'll be logging straight online!!!!!!!! :realmad: it better be lag free!!

It better had be lag free, cause that's where i'm heading. ( with the new ps3 slim- ditched the xbox360 ) ' Be ready for me boy's'

[S1mon]

I believe I shall be entering the edit mode... checking what international player names need doing... then I'll do a match... Bosnia vs Ghana, then I'll b hittin the edit mode agen, no doubt for what will be quite an age... international kits, club kits, player boots player names.... you know the story

[gerbatov]

Check the edit mode then jump straight into a Champions League with United. Maybe a friendly or two against Real and/or City out of curiousity...

[hywelkidd]

I'll go straight into edit mode and create my beloved Kidderminster Harriers lol

[muzza798]

Prob go straight to online and see if its lag free. Then ill dabble for a bit in each mode.

[The Liverpool Way]

I'll go straight into edit mode and create my beloved Kidderminster Harriers lol

LOL Thats what I used to do when Liverpool wasn't licensed in PES2008 and before.
I would make the emblem, the formation, the kits, the names and spend a lot of time on it. Of course the players were all ready there though:)

[Rasmus]

I'm gonna do all the "forgotten" transfers as usual. In pes09 it was quite many i had to do. Hereafter i'm going to check out the new teams. Then straight to the master league or become a legend.

[stottmeister]

i keep thinking of all the things i'm going to do when i get my copy, i want to do all the transfers that need completing, then put the team names right, edit the kits giving the umbro sponsored teams a similar style of keepers kit, not bothered if it's accurate then do the same with all the nike teams, puma teams, adidas teams etc.

once this is done i'll maybe start a B.A.L. or league, in between matches i'll start the english lower league sides i want for M.L. using the other teams B (now i was told on here these teams would be useable in M.L.) i'll try them first before spending ages editing. i am going to do a mixture of teams, not just championship. i want leeds, notts co., oldham as well as newcastle, boro and sheff wed.

i could keep going for ages but this list is endless. i just want this game now, i dont care if it's only slightly improved from 09. i traded that ages ago after deleting my O.F. now i am tempted to re-purchase it due to the anticipation building for 2010.

[The Liverpool Way]

i keep thinking of all the things i'm going to do when i get my copy, i want to do all the transfers that need completing, then put the team names right, edit the kits giving the umbro sponsored teams a similar style of keepers kit, not bothered if it's accurate then do the same with all the nike teams, puma teams, adidas teams etc.

once this is done i'll maybe start a B.A.L. or league, in between matches i'll start the english lower league sides i want for M.L. using the other teams B (now i was told on here these teams would be useable in M.L.) i'll try them first before spending ages editing. i am going to do a mixture of teams, not just championship. i want leeds, notts co., oldham as well as newcastle, boro and sheff wed.

i could keep going for ages but this list is endless. i just want this game now, i dont care if it's only slightly improved from 09. i traded that ages ago after deleting my O.F. now i am tempted to re-purchase it due to the anticipation building for 2010.

lol cool

[muzza798]

If you cant wait for 2010, pick up pes 6 for the 360 for like £2 and play it online. The game is grrrrrrrreat.

[The Liverpool Way]

:w00t^^Yes it is!

[The Liverpool Way]

I'm gonna do all the "forgotten" transfers as usual. In pes09 it was quite many i had to do. Hereafter i'm going to check out the new teams. Then straight to the master league or become a legend.


A lot of transfers have to be done lol :L

Yh, im sure in one of the PES2010 screenshots I saw Steve Finnan at Liverpool lol!
He's not in the Demo, but he was in one screenshot in Liverpool shirt :erm:

[Mullet Taylor]

yayyyyyy boooooo

[Deano685]

straight into exibition for Chelsea (Y) vs Man United (BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO)

[The Liverpool Way]

Non-Lagging online play is promised, so maybe before exibition and the edit mode, i'll have a go online :)

[The Liverpool Way]

I believe I shall be entering the edit mode... checking what international player names need doing... then I'll do a match... Bosnia vs Ghana, then I'll b hittin the edit mode agen, no doubt for what will be quite an age... international kits, club kits, player boots player names.... you know the story

I hope edit mode has been 'advanced'. A dude from Konami said that the edit mode in PES2010 will be more advanced so I hope it's better for PES2010 :)

[M@.]

People have a go at PES for not having full licenses etc but tbh I love editing the game myself and getting it just how I want it. :)

[Ochseh]

Go to edit mode and see if Nani is on the left wing for Manchester United and play against Liverpool.

[Mr Darkstar]

Go straight to an exibition match on super star, and be liverpool vs real madrid! hah, and hope to god that aquilani is in the liverpool squad!

[Makavelian]

What are you going to do first on PES2010 when you get it?

I'm going strait for a match, Liverpool vs Everton(Boooo)

Then Liverpool vs ManUtd(Booo) and Then Liverpool vs Barca

Then i'm heading to the edit mode to see if there are any changes.:shocking:

:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t :w00t:w00t:w00t:w00t

im gonna lower liverpools and city stats then start a master league lmao




oj



going straight to the online and check out whats up with it , then i few friendly online matches

[muzza798]

See wtf the boot stats are all about.

[M@.]

Boot stats?:erm:

[muzza798]

Boot stats?:erm:

Yh, in the new vid you can see the stats but its in japanese. Luckily someone at the WENB forums translated it and it all like speed, shot power etc. Weird though. I cant see the point or how they'd make a difference. If there's 1 really good boot then surely you'd kit your entire team out in that 1 boot making it look crap.

[M@.]

If that is true then... oh.my.fucking.god.Konami.

It'll be like Modern Warfare 2, boots with perks and upgrades. I really hope this isn't true and that they're colour sliders or something. FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-

[Mr Darkstar]

Yh, in the new vid you can see the stats but its in japanese. Luckily someone at the WENB forums translated it and it all like speed, shot power etc. Weird though. I cant see the point or how they'd make a difference. If there's 1 really good boot then surely you'd kit your entire team out in that 1 boot making it look crap.

LOL that sounds..wiered but then it would be like if a boot had more speed and shot acuracy you would give it to a striker where if it had better pass or cross you might give it to a midfielder.....it would be a shit factor in the game, would complicate things to much.

[M@.]

Jesus, this is Konami all over. WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?

I really hope the 'stats' are meaningless, just for show and don't have an effect on the players abilities. First the card system, now this. What next? Some kind of bulletime effect where time stands still so you can dribble past people? Make the goal shrink in size? Pft.

[Mr Darkstar]

jesus, this is konami all over. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?

I really hope the 'stats' are meaningless, just for show and don't have an effect on the players abilities. First the card system, now this. What next? Some kind of bulletime effect where time stands still so you can dribble past people? Make the goal shrink in size? Pft.

looool :\

[M@.]

You might laugh, I'm just glad I didn't put that in the Konami feedback section or they'd be hiring me in a shot! Aha, I hope they don't read that post. Don't want to be giving them ideas. xD

[muzza798]

Yh i can see how position would effect who gets what boot etc but weve all played football and c'mon, how much of a difference does a different pair of boots really make? Not enough to have stats for them. I know that much.

[M@.]

You'd think so! Who know what's going through the minds of these crazy people? If these boot stats affect the players performance I can safely say this is the last PES title I'll be spending my money on.

Back on topic - I think I'll do some exhibitions, couple games online then a bit of editing. I won't start a MLor BAL until I've got all the teams and kits up to date and as realistic as possible. :)

[StringerBell]

Whats wrong with stats with shoes? I dont know if there are any athletes on the board but certain shoes def have different beneficial and negative attributes to them.

[manuxinho]

to start off el classico barcelona vs real madrid....then some man united vs liverpool or chelsea...then looking forward for the kits,boots.finally see if there any space for bundesliga....it was easier if konami only add the bests dutch clubs(the 3 )and made a good league like bundesliga or argentina or brasil league.

[fabinho81]

Edit mode, then i'll do the championship for a complete ML (or wait for someone to do it with, that sounds easier..)

[The Liverpool Way]

I don't think there is any need for boot stats.
I actually think its a stupid idea for a footy game, even if it does add realism. I think too real is bad lol

Anyway I can't wait to get into edit mode too.

[steveomilan]

a couple of quick games then get stuck into the edit mode

[ade279]

Edit mode str8 away because knowing konami a few transfers and other little things will be wrong.

Then after that I'm sure if I have friends round it'll be a few one on ones but when they go home or if no-one is round in the first place then my ML ritual will take place.

I will Edit Arsenals Kit to be as realistic as I can make it then Im str8 on to an ML season trying to make our beloved youngsters show their potential.

As you can probably tell I'm very excited for the release date!!!

[sud2002]

Straight into edit mode; edit english clubs names and other big european big clubs (i.e italian/german/spanish).

Little play with the menus then straight into exhibition with the new man city team on top difficulty, plaing in one of the new premiership stadiums....

Oh man I cannot wait!!!

[muzza798]

Jump staright into a World Cup. Doing a World Cup is fun especially when you first buy the game and are finding your feet. Makes the matches even better.

[The Liverpool Way]

Jump staright into a World Cup. Doing a World Cup is fun especially when you first buy the game and are finding your feet. Makes the matches even better.

Yh, playing with international teams on PES is fun!:w00t

[Mr Darkstar]

I am curious to see which of the premiership teams is "the best" ie who every fucker will be using online, probably Man united or Chelsea (if they are not real or barca), and then i want to see if man city are a force in the game and i also need to see ac millans credentials now they have lost kaka...i loved playing with ac in 09 i was unbeatable with them!

[Papa]

I'll just edit names of teams then play a match Fulham v whoever we're playing next when I get the game. And lose, knowing Fulham's stats.

[requiem7]

Play all the cups to unlock the classic players again and then get cracking with the master league.

[muzza798]

Play all the cups to unlock the classic players again and then get cracking with the master league.

Yh its a must but the PES SHOP was so much easier and you could earn money in friendlies against mates etc and buy specific players.

[gitarburuk]

i actually will play exhibition match for 2 hour.....start with regular dificulty to hardest level......just wana see what its diffrent.
after that, go to edit mode....kook all player in all nation and club..make a note who's the real face. (and also who doesnt....make a note for find their photo to edit faces)
after that, edit kits for national..club..and player..
then i will play international cup..all nation cup
and then.......master league challenge begin!!!!

[Jasperinho]

Probably start a World Cup or a Champions League tournament... Checking in the editing mode, whether I need to change the starting eleven of Ajax

[BazHilder]

I usually plan to just edit team names but then end up in there for a couple of hours! Then I'll do a few friendlies before starting ML.

[DualShock 3]

Play a few matches, then go to edit mode and edit the english league and other stuff, and then start BAL or ML.

Anyone know whether there will be any new games modes for PES2010?

[glen the magpie]

gonna start editing as soon as i get it

[alanjog]

i am going to set up an 10min match against man u and be lfc (cos they are the best) and then smash the man u scum!

[Rasmus]

I usually plan to just edit team names but then end up in there for a couple of hours! Then I'll do a few friendlies before starting ML.

Yeah it feels like you get stock in there..

[worm]

Check Celtic's players stats, tweak the formation - then go online and do some major splattering. (No lag!!!!!!!!)

[zizou88]

marvel at the packing. Admire the box cover. Explore the insides of the box. Marvel once again. Pray that my computer will run the game without any faults.

[StringerBell]

Im gonna watch you all rant and rave until November when it comes out in America damn you all :angry:

[ceysin]

I'm going to make a 30 min match... tosee what is improved comparing to the demo..
Then I'll check all stadium one by one with every day coditions.. then I'll note it down which stadium seems more pretty.
Then directly to the edit mode, for boots/kits/faces etc...
I'm gonna choose two pilot teams and will edit their players' attributes..( I'll lower the short pass speed etc...) then will make matches of these two teams to check the best suitable revision..
Afterwards training mode... all feints practices..
Then I'll wait for an option file for someone to make a full Premier-league update with kits and squads.. Then I'll edit teams Stadiums( will attend most prettiest stadiums to teams), all players in premier (suitable attribute revision) all boots...

Then I'll select 20 teams and will start to Premier league at least 20 mins per match.. I'll play every match.. I'm gonna arrange both team's tactics for every match and then for the 1st half I'll play for one and on the 2nd as the other... It will take 10*19*2= 380 matches..

(I already did all of these in PEs2009)

I never played online till today
neither BAL or ML... (I never missed a Winning eleven/PES game since PS1 days)
But I can also try those for this year..

P.S: I, 90% frequently use ANALOG passing instead of pressing X .. And if you watch my matches its completely simulation... I think there are no-one playing such as me.. I think I'm a lil obsessive on PES issue :)

[M@.]

I'm going to make a 30 min match... tosee what is improved comparing to the demo..
Then I'll check all stadium one by one with every day coditions.. then I'll note it down which stadium seems more pretty.
Then directly to the edit mode, for boots/kits/faces etc...
I'm gonna choose two pilot teams and will edit their players' attributes..( I'll lower the short pass speed etc...) then will make matches of these two teams to check the best suitable revision..
Afterwards training mode... all feints practices..
Then I'll wait for an option file for someone to make a full Premier-league update with kits and squads.. Then I'll edit teams Stadiums( will attend most prettiest stadiums to teams), all players in premier (suitable attribute revision) all boots...

Then I'll select 20 teams and will start to England League at least 20 mins per match.. I'll play every match.. I'm gonna arrange both team's tactics for every match and then for the 1st half I'll play for one and on the 2nd as the other... It will take 10*19*2= 380 matches..

(I already did all of these in PEs2009)

I never played online till today
neither BAL or ML... (I never missed a Winning eleven/PES game since PS1 days)
But I can also try those for this year..

P.S: I, 90% frequently use ANALOG passing instead of pressing X .. And if you watch my matches its completely simulation... I think there are no-one playing such as me.. I think I'm a lil obsessive on PES issue :)

I think you need a doctor.:laugh:

[muzza798]

physical or mental doctor

[Mr Darkstar]

Im gonna watch you all rant and rave until November when it comes out in America damn you all :angry:

LOL awww im sure we will all keep you informed on its wonderfull-ness :) :blush:

[The Liverpool Way]

LOL awww im sure we will all keep you informed on its wonderfull-ness :) :blush:

Why does U.S. get it later than us anyway??

Some games such as Modern Warfare 2 will have release date of 10th November world wide....
But PES is released weeks after it is released in Europe in the U.S.A?

I don't get it...

[proevofan88]

I'm going to make a 30 min match... tosee what is improved comparing to the demo..
Then I'll check all stadium one by one with every day coditions.. then I'll note it down which stadium seems more pretty.
Then directly to the edit mode, for boots/kits/faces etc...
I'm gonna choose two pilot teams and will edit their players' attributes..( I'll lower the short pass speed etc...) then will make matches of these two teams to check the best suitable revision..
Afterwards training mode... all feints practices..
Then I'll wait for an option file for someone to make a full Premier-league update with kits and squads.. Then I'll edit teams Stadiums( will attend most prettiest stadiums to teams), all players in premier (suitable attribute revision) all boots...

Then I'll select 20 teams and will start to England League at least 20 mins per match.. I'll play every match.. I'm gonna arrange both team's tactics for every match and then for the 1st half I'll play for one and on the 2nd as the other... It will take 10*19*2= 380 matches..

(I already did all of these in PEs2009)

I never played online till today
neither BAL or ML... (I never missed a Winning eleven/PES game since PS1 days)
But I can also try those for this year..

P.S: I, 90% frequently use ANALOG passing instead of pressing X .. And if you watch my matches its completely simulation... I think there are no-one playing such as me.. I think I'm a lil obsessive on PES issue :)

I think its a healthy suggestion that you skip this version.

Maybe some fresh air up in the mountains will be good.

Im gonna watch you all rant and rave until November when it comes out in America damn you all :angry:

BTW -- This is the site where you can order the EURO version. Only if you have a PS3 tho or PC. It wont work on XBOX.

[StringerBell]

Im gonna get the American version buying the Euro would make me a hypocrite as I've already pledged to make an OF this year for the Americas.

[Trevi]

I will be waiting too, God.

[StringerBell]

They dont care about those in the Americas lol

[milly_willy]

I'm going to make a 30 min match... tosee what is improved comparing to the demo..
Then I'll check all stadium one by one with every day coditions.. then I'll note it down which stadium seems more pretty.
Then directly to the edit mode, for boots/kits/faces etc...
I'm gonna choose two pilot teams and will edit their players' attributes..( I'll lower the short pass speed etc...) then will make matches of these two teams to check the best suitable revision..
Afterwards training mode... all feints practices..
Then I'll wait for an option file for someone to make a full Premier-league update with kits and squads.. Then I'll edit teams Stadiums( will attend most prettiest stadiums to teams), all players in premier (suitable attribute revision) all boots...

Then I'll select 20 teams and will start to England League at least 20 mins per match.. I'll play every match.. I'm gonna arrange both team's tactics for every match and then for the 1st half I'll play for one and on the 2nd as the other... It will take 10*19*2= 380 matches..

(I already did all of these in PEs2009)

I never played online till today
neither BAL or ML... (I never missed a Winning eleven/PES game since PS1 days)
But I can also try those for this year..

P.S: I, 90% frequently use ANALOG passing instead of pressing X .. And if you watch my matches its completely simulation... I think there are no-one playing such as me.. I think I'm a lil obsessive on PES issue :)

That is just sad :/

[The Liverpool Way]

That is just sad :/

I agree, but anyone can do what they want to you know :erm:

[proevofan88]

That is just sad :/

He can do what he wants you know?

Don't sit there typing things when you know damn right that you have flaws, too. A lot of people would say that we ( the users on this site ) are sad, too. Discussing a video game and debating over it? Not exactly 'COOL'.

At least he aint ashamed to write how he feels about the game.

[M@.]

I think its a healthy suggestion that you skip this version.

Maybe some fresh air up in the mountains will be good.

This is the same 'proevofan88' that wrote that? :rolleyes:

[Rasmus]

They dont care about those in the Americas lol

Apparently not. Just strange since there happen to be quite a lot of people and thereby potential buyers of the game in the USA..

[Dale C.]

Apparently not. Just strange since there happen to be quite a lot of people and thereby potential buyers of the game in the USA..

This is where Fifa has excelled. There's a massive market in Latino america, which EA have tapped into. By having the mexican league etc in there, they have gained a massive following.

[proevofan88]

This is the same 'proevofan88' that wrote that? :rolleyes:

Yeh. Whats wrong with that? Isnt that kind of funny? Im sure he laughed at it.

You calling him sad I highly doubt was funny to him.

Pointless argument. You dont get it. Just move on.

[StringerBell]

Apparently not. Just strange since there happen to be quite a lot of people and thereby potential buyers of the game in the USA..

Screw that exactly what Dale said I wonder if Konami have ever heard of countries like Brazil or Argentina Americans arent the only ones playing games here...

[ceysin]

Come on guys... Soccer is a life-style.. No room for for arcade anymore everythig has to be implemented as realistic as possible.. If you dont think like that, go and play Fifa..

[hanzino]

First thing im doing is making Garrincha, thats if he is not in the classic players or classic brazil squad.

[M@.]

Yeh. Whats wrong with that? Isnt that kind of funny? Im sure he laughed at it.

You calling him sad I highly doubt was funny to him.

Pointless argument. You dont get it. Just move on.

I didn't call him sad, get your facts straight. What you said could have been taken either way, whether you meant it as a joke or not. You said "I think its a healthy suggestion that you skip this version. Maybe some fresh air up in the mountains will be good." Then as soon as someone says "I agree, but anyone can do what they want to you know." You jump on the bandwagon eh? Bloody hypocrite.
http://i34.tinypic.com/2n6cl95.jpg

[stottmeister]

well so far i've stuck to my plan, i changed team names for the epl and spanish league, corrected transfers and edited spurs kit and then chose my opposition, BURNLY. i dont know why, but on professional difficulty i won 1-0 with Robbie Keane scoring my first ever goal on pes 2010 which i promptly saved.

i've written down kit designs and sponsors for all teams and am going to hopefully get all of them done tonight as far as designs and sports manufacturers logo's. i'm going to do the chest sponsors at a later date.

i haven't tackled the unlicensed other leagues A teams yet as i cant find definate info on who they are yet.

[So Pro They Go Whoa]

First thing I did was a 10 min match Spurs vs Arsenal, I won 1-0, though it was on Normal. Then I won the Champs League with Inter, again on Normal.

I will start matches on Pro difficulty today, as Normal was too easy, will d/load the WENB OF then start my ML. :)

[Red Owl]

First thing I did was a friendly with random International teams (Germany vs. Denmark).

Second thing I did was turn off my playstation, disgusted with the new, arcadey, ultra-fast, unrealistic gameplay.

[Mr Darkstar]

First thing I did was a friendly with random International teams (Germany vs. Denmark).

Second thing I did was turn off my playstation, disgusted with the new, arcadey, ultra-fast, unrealistic gameplay.

Are you sure you didnt put pes 2009 in by accident :S

[stottmeister]

it is a bit clunky, if thats the right word, i kept getting caught out with modric due to the weird turning, i'll get used to it though.

[Hoodman]

Straight to the ML for me,plotting world domination with my FC Vale custom side.
Loving the new youth team addition. :-)

[stottmeister]

i'm in work but i've not stopped surfing the net for details to go and put into the game.

goalie kits, player transfers/numbers etc etc...

it never ends