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Yami-Naruto
20-11-2009, 15:01
I've noticed a few things when negotiating transfers and thought I'd pass them on:

- The initial transfer fee suggested by a club is ALWAYS open to negotiation

- Changing this fee by 25-30% is normally acceptable

- A players wage demands aren't so flexible. A player normally wants 10% more than their value.

- A player will seek less than their value if they are unhappy at a club but even then re-negotiaiting the wage should only be to a slight degree

- The length of contract requested is normally short but is never a deal breaker. (For instance if a player wants a 1 year contract and you say 5, they will almost always return with a compromise.)

- The assessment by the scout that "A deal seems unlikely" doesn't mean you wont get the player. You should always attempt to sign a player even if you get this assessment.

If anyone has any other tips for negotiations please post them on this thread

pesral
20-11-2009, 17:24
Keep offering for a transfer deal. "chance almost a zero" will eventually change to "a deal seems unlikely", which means you would be able to sign the player after a few tries.

tejazz
20-11-2009, 17:32
- Go to Scout Recommendations and get a list of players based on their openness towards negotiation. Sort the list on the descending order of overall rating. Look for really cheap players with great stats, apply for negotiations and your success rate in reaching an agreement will be close to 100%.

- Keep your youth team's operating costs at the highest level. That way, among the 10 or so kids in the youth team, you'll get atleast a 75~80 rated player at the beginning of each season. If you're lucky, you might even bump into 16-year-olds with 95 or such stats.

- Try to negotiate a couple of weeks before the january and june-july transfer windows. That way, even if the move is rejected, you can go for the guy again during the transfer window.

Rasmus
20-11-2009, 19:10
I've noticed a few things when negotiating transfers and thought I'd pass them on:

- The initial transfer fee suggested by a club is ALWAYS open to negotiation



Thanks for the tips Yami. Can you explain the above?

I try to change the transfer fee just a couple of million euros and they reject every time. Haven't got a player where i really could negotiate for the price..
My scout level is 5 and i've won PL for 2 years in a row.

themaestro
20-11-2009, 19:25
Can someone tell me how to do negotiations.
I want it like the old days where I put my own bid in for players instead of just the scout doing it.
It says Negotiate directly in my game settings though, I thought that would do it.
And I have no idea how to change my Scouts level from 4 to 5, I have looked all over the menus trying to figure it out and I have no clue ha.

EDIT: I've found other answers about not being able to change the scout till after the season. So there is no way to bid on players like the old days?

Rasmus
20-11-2009, 21:38
To the last question, i'm afraid the answer is no. Think the scout thing is okay, but yeah i would still be able to higher the bids if i wanted to..

only1keano
20-11-2009, 23:21
- The initial transfer fee suggested by a club is ALWAYS open to negotiation

- Changing this fee by 25-30% is normally acceptable

- A players wage demands aren't so flexible. A player normally wants 10% more than their value.

- A player will seek less than their value if they are unhappy at a club but even then re-negotiaiting the wage should only be to a slight degree

- The length of contract requested is normally short but is never a deal breaker. (For instance if a player wants a 1 year contract and you say 5, they will almost always return with a compromise.)

- The assessment by the scout that "A deal seems unlikely" doesn't mean you wont get the player. You should always attempt to sign a player even if you get this assessment.

If anyone has any other tips for negotiations please post them on this thread

How can you change the fee ?
On my game the scout does it auto!
All you can do is say yes or no... all the stuff is set even though I have the ''leave it to Scout'' turned off

gingerbradman
21-11-2009, 01:10
How can you change the fee ?
On my game the scout does it auto!
All you can do is say yes or no... all the stuff is set even though I have the ''leave it to Scout'' turned off

u need to go to options and set to negotiate directly. then when the scout gets a player interested in signing you can change the fee and salary and contrct years. simples. regards. x

Yami-Naruto
22-11-2009, 19:49
Thanks for the tips Yami. Can you explain the above?

I try to change the transfer fee just a couple of million euros and they reject every time. Haven't got a player where i really could negotiate for the price..
My scout level is 5 and i've won PL for 2 years in a row.
Depends how much the transfer offer is initially, like if its only 2-3 million you wont be able to lower it more than about 0.5m tops. If a transfer fee is say 10m you should be able to get him for 8m

Rasmus
22-11-2009, 21:20
^ Okay. Guess i'll have to experiment with this. I'll get back if i have further questions since you seem to be the transfer expert :) Help appreciated.

Stormeh
23-11-2009, 02:26
It doesn't work on every transfer but definitely worth trying especially if you're short on funds. E.g. I attempted to sign Kaka from RM & the scout came back to me with a transfer fee of $55M Pounds + wages of $8.5M Pounds which I couldn't afford. I managed to get it down to $40M + $7.2M. I then cheekily sold Berba to RM a couple of weeks later for $30M pounds. Obviously with big money transfers you have more room to negotiate..

considine46
23-11-2009, 22:14
I've noticed a few things when negotiating transfers and thought I'd pass them on:

- The initial transfer fee suggested by a club is ALWAYS open to negotiation

- Changing this fee by 25-30% is normally acceptable

- A players wage demands aren't so flexible. A player normally wants 10% more than their value.

- A player will seek less than their value if they are unhappy at a club but even then re-negotiaiting the wage should only be to a slight degree

- The length of contract requested is normally short but is never a deal breaker. (For instance if a player wants a 1 year contract and you say 5, they will almost always return with a compromise.)

- The assessment by the scout that "A deal seems unlikely" doesn't mean you wont get the player. You should always attempt to sign a player even if you get this assessment.

If anyone has any other tips for negotiations please post them on this thread

Hi Yami-Naruto,ive got a level 5 scout on manual negotations.Ive got money and last year won champions league and league.Im struggling to sign Bendtner,Benzema etc.Can i adjust the transfer fee or wages to lure these players?I notice you can see how long the players have on thier contract but when Hulk was up for renewal,he went to Man City (EVEN THOUGH THEY'D WON NOTHING!)after i bid on him!
Ive so far come to the conclusion your team rating needs to be very high(ive started with default players with an edited Pes United).
Any ideas!

pnkrckr
25-11-2009, 01:13
great tips.. thanks!

Yami-Naruto
25-11-2009, 14:49
Hi Yami-Naruto,ive got a level 5 scout on manual negotations.Ive got money and last year won champions league and league.Im struggling to sign Bendtner,Benzema etc.Can i adjust the transfer fee or wages to lure these players?I notice you can see how long the players have on thier contract but when Hulk was up for renewal,he went to Man City (EVEN THOUGH THEY'D WON NOTHING!)after i bid on him!
Ive so far come to the conclusion your team rating needs to be very high(ive started with default players with an edited Pes United).
Any ideas!

Just keep winning things and your ranking will increase. I've done back to back trebles and I'm only ranked 7th now! but signing players has gotten a lot easier.

thorbarry
27-11-2009, 12:05
I'm finding it quite difficult to get anyone that is not on the scouts recommendation list under "open to negotiation ". I'll try some tips from the guys above... I think best thing to do is have a scout watch the player, then keep on offering for him, eventually they will come.... If i want them they will come :)

jmelough
27-11-2009, 15:28
Can someone tell me how to do negotiations.
I want it like the old days where I put my own bid in for players instead of just the scout doing it.
It says Negotiate directly in my game settings though, I thought that would do it.
And I have no idea how to change my Scouts level from 4 to 5, I have looked all over the menus trying to figure it out and I have no clue ha.

EDIT: I've found other answers about not being able to change the scout till after the season. So there is no way to bid on players like the old days?

To change scout levels go to Team Office from main menu and then into Operating Costs and change it there. You can do it from the start, no need to wait a season. The scout puts in a bid but if you are successful you can change the price.

NickPGL
27-11-2009, 16:15
- Go to Scout Recommendations and get a list of players based on their openness towards negotiation. Sort the list on the descending order of overall rating. Look for really cheap players with great stats, apply for negotiations and your success rate in reaching an agreement will be close to 100%.

- Keep your youth team's operating costs at the highest level. That way, among the 10 or so kids in the youth team, you'll get atleast a 75~80 rated player at the beginning of each season. If you're lucky, you might even bump into 16-year-olds with 95 or such stats.

- Try to negotiate a couple of weeks before the january and june-july transfer windows. That way, even if the move is rejected, you can go for the guy again during the transfer window.

Totally agree with this. I have had success signing players that are open to negotiation. Key for me as I am using Nottingham Forest and in Div 2 - funds are tough to come by.

laraone19
27-11-2009, 17:31
i've tried your tips and as far as i can say almost always i get the player, obviously not with superstar players but im workin on it..

vincentzero
01-12-2009, 03:42
i use auto negoitation, the salary is very big for some players..

thorbarry
02-12-2009, 12:48
haha great. I am playing as arsenal, in my second season of the ML. The only players i have been able to bring in is those "open to negotiations". I bid for a lot of players Villa, Eto, Gourceff etc..... with transfer negotiations always breaking down. I bid for Torres, he accepts :) he cost me €67m

Rasmus
02-12-2009, 19:38
Has anyone experienced that the cpu teams are insanely slow at making approaches for your players? You go to "my team" and select a certain player and see that there are some teams in contact. But i don't receive any bids for an entire negotiation period despite of this. Strange..

Ethiaa
02-12-2009, 20:01
The CPU seems to have been pretty quick to snap up my irregulars - certainly many more transfers out of the club than in any previous version. I've sold about 7 or 8 in the last 2 seasons.

Rasmus
02-12-2009, 22:43
Okay. Guess i'm just unlucky or maybe they regretted making the approaches :)

ima
03-12-2009, 03:13
about that "in contact" thing, i hate the CPU, it always bids the last day of the negotiations so i cant negotiate the bid.. end up turning down all offers lol..

Yami-Naruto
03-12-2009, 10:57
Anyone I put on the transfer/loan list will start having other clubs watching them. I dont always get offers but I think its due to the Scout turning away offers befoe you see them.

I put the 31 year old Gargano up for sale at the end of season, he was rated 90 overall but was getting old and was due to renegotiate his salary up from 3m to 12m! I didnt get one offer despite a few clubs being in contact. I reckon they weren't bidding enough and the scout turned em down. The following January I got a bid of 38m and let him go. Basically its probably easier to sell lesser players who are valued about 10-15m

luik^3
03-12-2009, 11:11
about that "in contact" thing, i hate the CPU, it always bids the last day of the negotiations so i cant negotiate the bid.. end up turning down all offers lol..

you don't have to do that! you can negotiate all season long! only the 'real transfer' can be done in the transfer window..

so during the season you can agree with a club to sell your player to them, in the transfer window your player will leave..

SwEeT HeArT
04-12-2009, 06:00
I think its a gr8 tips but be careful that u don't lower the price much for low price players

Nazkgv
09-01-2010, 15:58
thanks!

ThreeLion
09-01-2010, 17:46
Another tip from me concern big money purchases you make:
We all want those Agueros, Benzemas, Zarates, Gourcuffs and who not on our team, but the CPU makes us pay big time more often than not.
So once you are tabled an offer from the CPU, consider your current bankroll, your team's salary, the additional salary that the new player will cost and the transfer fee, or otherwise you may be confronted with a really uncomfortable situation some time in the near future.

Example:
I desperately wanted Benzema on my team. I approached him numerous times, that is: every time my approach was turned down I would pursue him again, I did that since my very first day of the ML.
Now, just over midway through the second season I finally got an offer from Real Madrid, asking for 107€ million and a 15€ million salary. I suppose that I could have gotten that down to about 85-90€ and 12€ million. At first I was uber happy that I could finally get him and was well happy with my bankroll of about 185€ million. But I then realised, that paying a transfer fee of about 90€ million and a team salary that would total about just over 100€ million including Benzema, would leave me with a negative or close to zero bankroll in September after I would have paid the team's salary, staff etc. Which would have meant that I would have needed to quit playing after the following season.

So I ended up turning the offer down.

Obviously, if you have players to sell which can get you the money back, that's a slightly different scenario, but I would still advise you to be careful with those transfers.

lyc10
09-01-2010, 21:51
i have been trying to sign Higuain since the first season..and now i'm in my 4th, I'm not even getting any offers from Real...I've won every competition I've been in so far and my team is 1st in the rankings..am i missing something or is it just impossible to sign some players?

historymaker
10-01-2010, 13:37
i have been trying to sign Higuain since the first season..and now i'm in my 4th, I'm not even getting any offers from Real...I've won every competition I've been in so far and my team is 1st in the rankings..am i missing something or is it just impossible to sign some players?

have u tried doing it every week or only on negotiation period?

Romeotantan
12-01-2010, 22:10
What the hell is wrong with the negotiating system, all players are zero chance to deal with, all negotiations breaks down without even knowing why? and you see the headline " blah blah refuses Juventus offer over wage demands " just tell me how much he wants and i'll deal with it, heck i'll give him what he wants, i'm paying my scout 5 mil and he does not get me any deal, he does not deserve 5 cents, and i payed the 5 mil just to get that white hair freak to wear the armaney suit "with my money" to just tell me that negotiations broke down , F&%k

Edit: i think i'm dropping that game, it's so annoying, Transfers in real life is not that hard, you got money you buy super man to be your play maker, not a miserable 77 overall player who thinks he is Messi and teams are disperate to acquire him, Konami realy made a mess this time.

Nazkgv
30-01-2010, 13:45
How I want to buy Cristiano Ronaldo? It always been rejected..

stottmeister
31-01-2010, 16:38
how long do the negotiations normally take?

i'm in my first season and about eight games remaining. i immediately upped my scout and medical staff by one level so this should speed things up.

i've made some loan deal offers as i'm not too sure how much cash i will actually have come the end of the season.

do i just leave it now and wait for a reply?

The Eristic
31-01-2010, 19:40
do i just leave it now and wait for a reply?

Yep. I have my scout on the third level, and it normally takes 3-5 weeks to get a response.

wahyu adi
01-02-2010, 15:17
in ML,,
we just can buy a player when the player in open negotiations status,,all out that,,very hard to get the player..
what should i do man ??

Jmister0
04-02-2010, 21:37
Players you must sign:

Hamsik - in two years over turns to *95, might cost 13million

Granero - Real Madrid young superstar who turns *97 in three years, well worth 8million, BARGAIN!!

Glen Johnson - I manage Liverpool and Glenno is the best full back in the game @ *93 c'mon get him

Raul Albiol - if you got bad defense get him he is like a rock costs 35m
but worth it in two years when he is *99

Aguero - obviously THE best striker in the game he can walk through your defense on beginner! cost: 87million

C.Ronaldo - Do i have to say anything, REALLY!!!

Robinho - an exact double of ronaldo, can't touch him but if you do, foul

Tevez - out and out goalscorer

Messi - crap online but class in two years on master league gotta get him, i did for 92m

dan101rayzor
05-02-2010, 05:39
Players you must sign:

Hamsik - in two years over turns to *95, might cost 13million

Granero - Real Madrid young superstar who turns *97 in three years, well worth 8million, BARGAIN!!

Glen Johnson - I manage Liverpool and Glenno is the best full back in the game @ *93 c'mon get him

Raul Albiol - if you got bad defense get him he is like a rock costs 35m
but worth it in two years when he is *99

Aguero - obviously THE best striker in the game he can walk through your defense on beginner! cost: 87million

C.Ronaldo - Do i have to say anything, REALLY!!!

Robinho - an exact double of ronaldo, can't touch him but if you do, foul

Tevez - out and out goalscorer

Messi - crap online but class in two years on master league gotta get him, i did for 92m

Good info there

RedSpark
28-02-2010, 16:25
is it impossible to transfer players that have moved to the club recently in the beginning of the the first season? im a liverpool fan n want to get xabi alonso. one of me favs.