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So I'll 'fess up. Im so impatient that I just want my player to develop so I can play for a team like Man U, Barca, Real Madrid,etc. and be my Nat team's star. So it def makes me want to skip some matches. How is it that every time you select "skip match" it says: "Note: You will not gain exp pts." and then after every few games it shows me gaining exp?
I've sort of come up with an idea (let me know if its right or not): Your player grows according to his Development Sheet regardless if you play games or not. If you play poorly he won't grow as much. If you play past expectations he will grow more than his DS says.
Which leads to my real question...is it ABSOLUTELY neccesary to play every SINGLE match to make your player a good one?
dextrous88
14-12-2009, 13:25
I have to say I've always thought that if you skip games, you NEVER get experience. This was certainly how it was last year, I did what you did with my 3rd player and skipped the first 2 or 3 seasons til he started getting decent, and never gained any experience points. I don't know about this year though, maybe it's changed.
Anyway, there are so many points to be gained through experience that you can make a huge difference. I'd make a wild guess and say that if you play well in the first few (say 4) seasons, you can easily increase any given attribute by at least 3 or 4 through experience points alone each season
You have to play every match yes. But thats the cool part mate. I mean, that's what BAL is all about. Patience is a virtue they say :) And trust me - you will get those insane stats if you just play decent. I think the stats increase waaay to fast compared to pes 2009.
My player is 19 and has already great stats..
^But you get more exp point than 09 only if you play well with a rating of 7.0 or above. I find this realistic to have more exp points because in reality you get better with how you play in each match. Sp the better you play, the better legend you become and also less time it takes. Take messi for example. He played really well and now at 22 he's the best.:)
In other words, its important to play every single game as a young player and you might be able to slide by skipping a few games as an older player?
I skipped a season without saving and found that my players attributes grew. So does he grow at a "natural pace" and then exp pts make him better than the average player?
Also, when you skip a game do you only miss on THAT game's exp pts or your whole season?
When you skip a game you only miss that game's exp points.
And also you need exp points to be able to develop better. That's why when you get good rating (which means more exp) you develop over the line of the curve graph. I do not know what happens when you skip matches all the time though.
^But you get more exp point than 09 only if you play well with a rating of 7.0 or above. I find this realistic to have more exp points because in reality you get better with how you play in each match. Sp the better you play, the better legend you become and also less time it takes.
Didn't know that. But i don't get 7 in every game. Sometimes i do, but in general i just think the stats raise a bit too quickly compared to pes09..
^Yes they do raise quicker but for me that's a good thing because there are players that develop early.
When you skip games you miss out on match exp (red). You still get development exp (green). Depending on how well you play, you can get 20-25 match exp each game in certain stats, so it's worth playing as many as you can.
Dazzle29
17-12-2009, 00:04
I've found having 6 Focus points in Stamina and Speed gives the greatest overall growth, especially if you get a 7+ match rating (Easiest way is to score or assist)
I've found having 6 Focus points in Stamina and Speed gives the greatest overall growth, especially if you get a 7+ match rating (Easiest way is to score or assist)
Are you sure? I've started playing as a striker in world class mode and I'm finding it hard to raise xp.
I've found having 6 Focus points in Stamina and Speed gives the greatest overall growth, especially if you get a 7+ match rating (Easiest way is to score or assist)
So actually having some areas where you don't have any focus points or what?
Yes. Having blocks on speed and stamina seems to be the best option even if I still leave 1 for dribbling and 1 for kicking.
This is because after a few games the red EXP of speed and stamina won't be earned anymore. Instead the EXP points (red) will be given to all other abilities but not to speed and stamina. So having blocks focusing on speed and stamina is the best because you leave the rest to go up with the red EXP points.
Dazzle29
17-12-2009, 15:19
With 6 blocks in Speed and Stamina, i have increased 3-4 points in each stat, with an increase in 6-8 points in Top Speed, Acceleration, Response and Stamina. I have a Top Speed and Stamina of 87 at 18 years old ;)
historymaker
19-12-2009, 10:27
basically, the development curve of ur player is a rough estimate of h8im skipping matches but with strengthening on. if u play all matches well with average rating of 6.5, u will see ur dot way above the stupid curve.
Speaking abt focus pnts, it is important to up kicking to the max as it increases the most stats than any other. tat is important as early stages u will gain exp ppnts easily. ltr on during the game u shld switch to stamina. Stamina early is useless as it only ups abt 4-5 stats wheareas kicking ups 9-10. I have been uping kicking n my player has an overall rating of 101 at the age of 25 (no joke).
Dazzle29
19-12-2009, 11:19
I have to disagree. The quicker you get stamina up, the more game time you get. You'll find you keep getting subbed off till stamina is about 85, and i find most of my goals are scored in the last 10-15 minutes when the game opens up.
Kicking is important though, i'm concentrating on it now!
I see...so in other words even if i skipped all matches my guy would prbly end up being a Landon Donovan type player wheras if I played all matches and got good ratings it'd lean more towards Messi type?
Dazzle29
20-12-2009, 16:30
Well i guess you can put it like that... The more games you play, the more "match experience" points (red bar) you will get. These are what make your player better than the average player.
Saying that, you won't have to play EVERY game to be good. I skip games if i have purple form arrow or a lot of fatigue (don't want to get injured).
^Skip only when you are fatigued. I managed to play a full season skipping only 2 matches. I had a high stamina (it was season 3 with Arsenal). About 85 or a bit less.
Resting when you don't need to can get you dropped for the next match. You will get rested automatically if your fatigue gets too high.
historymaker
21-12-2009, 03:09
I have to disagree. The quicker you get stamina up, the more game time you get. You'll find you keep getting subbed off till stamina is about 85, and i find most of my goals are scored in the last 10-15 minutes when the game opens up.
Kicking is important though, i'm concentrating on it now!
without uping stamina, u can increase it till 85 only with match exp within one season. Moreover, some of us may be playing 5min match or 10 min match where the late period does not make any difference cos the time flies very fast.
^But after that, stamina and speed won't go up with red exp. So focusing on them and leaving the others to go up with the red exp points will be the best bet.
3 D 3 A D 3
21-12-2009, 11:58
I have to say my player is growing pretty good atm with 92 OVR rating at only just 22 years old... I rarely skip matches and am enjoying every single game, no matter how frustrating I may find it... only agility and goalkeeping skills are not over 80 atm, and yes, I'm a CF, with 82 defence, LOL!!!
Dazzle29
21-12-2009, 21:19
Your agility won't go up either. I still don't know why Konami did that... I'm stuck at 76 agility for the rest of my BAL life!
I guess that's because Konami believes Agility, mentality and aggression are things which come naturally to a footballer.
I keep playing all the matches even I am in bench.
the match experience (red one) I can gain now is only on defense and response.
age 22, with overall rating 98.
I am a WF but my defense keep raising. (84 already)
^Wow. Now that's good. A 98 at age 22.
^Wow. Now that's good. A 98 at age 22.
My player just only 89/90 when 21,
after getting one special ability it raised to 96 suddenly.
Don't know which special ability can make overall rating raise so much :cool:
I never played as a WF but as a LMF in the BAL mode.
So in the starting, my rating is not 98. Only 91.
THRILLA_CFC
30-12-2009, 17:53
^Yes they do raise quicker but for me that's a good thing because there are players that develop early.
True word
how do u change focus points in bal?
Dazzle29
13-01-2010, 20:05
Check the Player Info section, its in there.
^But after that, stamina and speed won't go up with red exp. So focusing on them and leaving the others to go up with the red exp points will be the best bet.
are u absolutely sure that, after some time, speed and stamina won't increase anymore? i'm not questioning u, of course ( ;) ), i just mean to say, does it happens on a consistant basis or is it just a random thing that might happen in some carreers?
and also, when exactly those attributes stop growing? after 1 season? less than 1 season? 2 seasons?
coz if this stamina and speed growth stop happens always, then that's definitely something to take into account when setting up your focus points.
it would also make even more important to start the carreer with some good stamina and speed attributes, so that u can get the highest speed and stamina stats possible before those attributes stop improving.
one last question guys. am i the only one who struggles to get some decent agility starting stats? i've played the scout match dozens of times and yet never managed to get anything better than 78 (i'm a supporting striker btw).
ah and btw, hello to u all guys. i'm a newcomer in this forum and that's my first post :D
^I am sure. I experienced it myself on 2 different BALs. After the 3rd season the speed and stamina won't go up with red exp anymore. Only green (which is based on strengthen points). So the best option would be to focus on them after season 2 or when you notice this thing happening.
As for agility. What position are you playing in?
The starting position really effects it
I was under the impression that once these stats surpass 90 they won't increase anymore with match exp.
after the 3rd season the speed and stamina won't go up with red exp anymore. Only green (which is based on how you played that match).
thanks pal. really appreciate your help. :)
since we're talking about exp points, i'd like to check if i got this whole "red\green exp points" thing right.
the "green experience points" are the one that u get every week and depend just on how good u perform (so i assume it depends on the match rating).
while the "red experience points" are related to the focus points (so how many exp points each attribute gets from "red exp" depends on how u set the focus points).
is this right?
so, getting back to the stamina and speed topic, if i got the red\green difference right, after the 3rd season, there won't be any red experience growth anymore for those attributes.
hence that should mean that, after the 3rd season, no matter if i put 6 blocks on stamina and speed focus points, those focus points won't effect the experience growth anymore...... am i right???
sorry, i know i sound like a retard, but that's my first bal experience on ps3; i only played this mode on ps2 before and the whole experience growth process was much more "straight-foward" (but also less fun) than on ps3 :)
as for the agility question, my carachter is an SS. that should be (along with the advanced midfielder and the winger) the most agile player on the pitch, so i really can't understand why i always get those 70s attributes (from 72 to 78).
agility is quite an important attribute for an SS and having it stuck to 78 for the rest of my carreer is pretty disappointing.
^The green ones are how you set the strengthen points. The red ones depend on the rating and how you played the match. Sorry, I mixed it up in my last post. ;)
As for agility. SS are robbed of it in the game unfortunately.
I was under the impression that once these stats surpass 90 they won't increase anymore with match exp.
Ofcourse, but in speed and stamina section, this doesn't apply because the red EXP stops way before.
^The green ones are how you set the strengthen points. The red ones depend on the rating and how you played the match. Sorry, I mixed it up in my last post. ;)
i see :)
so after the 3rd season i will still be able to increase stamina and speed via green (focus points related) experience, but the red (match related) experience won't grow up anymore. is that right?
oh and about the agility issue, do u think a striker (the tipycal CF) would get more agility than an SS then?
thanks again Shaun7 :)
^
so after the 3rd season i will still be able to increase stamina and speed via green (focus points related) experience, but the red (match related) experience won't grow up anymore. is that right?
Yes, but the red exp in other attributes will still go p.:) This is only in speed and stamina for some reason. When you start noticing this (the red exp won't show up in speed and stamina) focus much more on speed and stamina with strengthen points so that you get the green line to go up further but leaving the other stats to rise with the red EXP.:)
As for agility for CF. I am not sure, but maybe about the same.
WF, SMF and DMF seem to get the best agility.:)
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