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bongplayer
28-01-2010, 16:54
..and ofcourse its not Konami!
Everyone sick of PES? FIFA? Remember how we all wanted a third party?
Well look here: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=232965?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS
And since its being headed by Captain Fantastic himself; everything will be just perfect!
ThaReaper01
28-01-2010, 17:02
Interesting. Maybe this will be the slap in the face that Konami need. "Not only are you getting your ass handed to you by EA and FIFA, now Ubisoft is handling up on you!"
trueblade
28-01-2010, 17:59
I should think it will take Ubisoft a while to make a game anywhere near up to scratch! But lets be honest it may be a breath of fresh air to have something a little different!
THRILLA_CFC
28-01-2010, 19:26
I"ll Stick With PES
Stormrider
28-01-2010, 19:51
Cool but I think many will be disappointed it's Ubisoft. They make some great games but have zero sports experience. This has fail written all over it.
This doesnt mean anything! There were other companies in the past that made footie games and they were all crap for the most part. Plus, Im sure they wont have any real teams or names just like Konami was in the beginning. The company I wish would throw their hat into the soccer game arena is 2KSports. Theyre basketball franchise is pure class as was their Football(American) before they lost their license to make NFL games.
^ oh yes! I'd love to see 2K11 Soccer!!!
muzza798
28-01-2010, 21:34
If they have really talked to Gerrard then this game will be the best after 1 attempt. Im not a massive fan of ubisoft. If 2k joined in and we had 4 footy games then i would poop my panties.
What sports games have they made in the past?
They have a Wii Tennis game I believe.
muzza798
29-01-2010, 00:25
They have a Wii Tennis game I believe.
Doesnt sound promising then. They make splinter cell so maybe they have the technology to create fluid movement.
A third game will be great. If done correctly that is. It'll bring more competition and more competition means better games released.:)
Ubisoft are awesome after they released assassins creed but as someone else said, they don't have sport's games experience. But that doesn't mean that they can't do a good football sim. We'll have to wait and find out I guess.:)
Nice, I really hope they have something... I dont care about real names and clubs. All I want is a game that you actually can play football with.
bunnywhi7e
29-01-2010, 14:51
I"ll Stick With PES
you my friend must be really miserable. :crymore:
you my friend must be really miserable. :crymore:
^
lol
dont know if i'll like the game...but good find
I do think this is good news indeed. Fingers crossed that Ubisoft delivers! =D
I'm getting tired of the stale progress in both PES and FIFA. Let's hope this will wake them up a bit :/
StaVriS92
30-01-2010, 11:08
I think this game should be perfect because they had the time to see all the negative things from both games(FIFA&PES) and hopefully they won't make them in their own game! Just wait :P
Sabatasso
30-01-2010, 17:12
I"ll Stick With PES
LOL, so you'll play whatever crap is thrown your way as long as it has the suffix "PES" or "Pro Evolution" in other words? :)
Such a brilliant way to point out your "biased-ness"
I hope Ubisoft either try to make a really realistic footy sim, or a pure arcade game. In between like PES and FIFA is just pathetic.
a third way, but hard to pull off, exaggarated realism would probably be the best option, rather realistic moves and shots but a few notches more effective AI strikers, so AI is able to score more than once or twice per season. Caricature graphics would be so cool too, alot of the trouble with licenses would be much easier to work around then. Let the overhead kicks and scissor kicks be a common feature in such a game.
LOL, so you'll play whatever crap is thrown your way as long as it has the suffix "PES" or "Pro Evolution" in other words? :)
Such a brilliant way to point out your "biased-ness"
I hope Ubisoft either try to make a really realistic footy sim, or a pure arcade game. In between like PES and FIFA is just pathetic.
a third way, but hard to pull off, exaggarated realism would probably be the best option, rather realistic moves and shots but a few notches more effective AI strikers, so AI is able to score more than once or twice per season. Caricature graphics would be so cool too, alot of the trouble with licenses would be much easier to work around then. Let the overhead kicks and scissor kicks be a common feature in such a game.
The funny thing is a lot of people would describe the latest PES game just that. A reason why it's stuck in between simulation and arcade.
As for the rest of you who are all losing their f*cking minds over the fact it's Ubisoft instead of 2K making this title, let me ask you this: Has 2K ever done a soccer game before? Having sports experience in general is irrelavent in all honesty.
Also, Ubisoft already released a soccer game on the DS that had the FIFApro license so I think it's safe to assume their game will have real players and fake team names at the very least.
Sabatasso
01-02-2010, 10:24
The funny thing is a lot of people would describe the latest PES game just that. A reason why it's stuck in between simulation and arcade.
That may be true, but to my experience the AI don't do many overhead kicks, they don't score many screamers from distance, hell they don't even shoot directly (first time shots or what it's called) most of the time. I would say PES comes in the "inaggerated realism" category with this years installment. The only thing that's exaggarated in PES2010 is the amount of diving headers, even when using the feet would be the obvious best choice.
One of the biggest gripes with BAL for example, is that the team your player is at score fewer goals than other teams around their league position, but also concede less goals. The balance between goals in simulated results and the matches you actually play is too big.
If you play AI vs AI (spectator mode) you will notice that Brazil will struggle to get a 1-0 victory over Honduras or Quatar with defualt database (unedited stats). Most games end 0-0 wich strengthen my opinion that PES 2010 is an inaggerated footy game rather than exaggarated.
^I agree with what you're saying especially about when taking diving headers when the best chance would be to hit the ball with their feet. It's just one of the most irritating things that can happen.
muzza798
01-02-2010, 14:42
Wonder what kind of modes Ubisoft will encorperate? I would love to know what leagues and teams they'll have and wether they'll have player development. Im sure they're richer than Konami and could possibly contend with EA to get these licenses which we have missed for many a year.
Im just really interested to not only know how the game will play but what offline and online modes they can create.
^I agree with what you're saying especially about when taking diving headers when the best chance would be to hit the ball with their feet. It's just one of the most irritating things that can happen.
That is an annoying contextual error. I'm just amazed by it because PES never use to have problems like that back in the day. So sad.:(
even if this game fixes all the problems, it will probably have a load of problems in itself. it will be version 1.0 of their footy game. I am not getting to excited. But i am hoping to be surprised.
After doing a google search, they are going the simulation route according to some sources.
Ubisoft...hmmmm...so title will probably sound like "Prince of Soccersia" or "Assasoccer", anyone has any ideas what would be a good and funny title for this?
muzza798
01-02-2010, 22:41
They cld call call it "THE NEW ORDER"
Stormrider
02-02-2010, 02:51
I think this game should be perfect because they had the time to see all the negative things from both games(FIFA&PES) and hopefully they won't make them in their own game! Just wait :P
Interesting I never thought of it that way. If they spent plenty of time on research and just take the good from both games and leave out the bad from both games then we might have ourselves a decent game.
Also with the help of Gerrard, shooting from distance should be a blast right?
And I think they'll call it Tom Clancy's Soccer.
or perhaps, footy's creed.
That is an annoying contextual error. I'm just amazed by it because PES never use to have problems like that back in the day. So sad.:(
Actually in most pes games even old ones, the players always prefer heading the ball rather than hitting it with their feet. But not as evident as nowdays.
Sabatasso
02-02-2010, 15:45
Ubisoft released two footy games since 1995.
Action Soccer (PC) in 1995 -> LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Soccer)
Real Football 2008 (DS) in 2007 -> LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Football_2008)
Real Football 2008 got fully licenced English, German, French, Italian and Spanish leagues. So Ubisoft's game has some backbone at least.
hm, i don't want to sound like a troll, but I have a feeling that this game could end up becoming a childish arcade version of soccer like virtual tennis. or maybe not?
Stormrider
02-02-2010, 18:48
Actually in most pes games even old ones, the players always prefer heading the ball rather than hitting it with their feet. But not as evident as nowdays.
Not in Pes 3. They preferred the volley in that one and it was awesome. So many volleys happened from all kinds of situations. The stupid header preference didn't creep in until Pes 5 and in Pes 6 it just got downright annoying.
^Yeah you're right. I mentioned old ones, but I meant from pes 5 onwards. ;)
Sabatasso
03-02-2010, 14:53
hm, i don't want to sound like a troll, but I have a feeling that this game could end up becoming a childish arcade version of soccer like virtual tennis. or maybe not?
PES & FIFA aren't too far off from that description, really.
will be great a third party at least trying to fight against FIFA and PES. I really dont care about license if the teams at least exist in the game, the problem is playing online with unlicensed teams online. Is such an ungly sensation playin with aston villa and they have this such fake uniform. They should be able to load the OF online to only fix the jersey problem. when is the new update coming out?
Also with the help of Gerrard, shooting from distance should be a blast right?
Diving should also be a useful tool.
Ubisoft released two footy games since 1995.
Action Soccer (PC) in 1995 -> LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Soccer)
Real Football 2008 (DS) in 2007 -> LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Football_2008)
Real Football 2008 got fully licenced English, German, French, Italian and Spanish leagues. So Ubisoft's game has some backbone at least.
I have a feeling that license agreement was only for handheld games. For this console game, I bet they will only have the pro license for some of those leagues mentioned.
Sabatasso
04-02-2010, 12:36
Diving should also be a useful tool.
I have a feeling that license agreement was only for handheld games. For this console game, I bet they will only have the pro license for some of those leagues mentioned.
If the gameplay is good, I don't give a shit what the leagues, teams and players look like or is called.
...I wouldn't mind a functional edit mode though. Or an external editor shipped with the game.
savatorius
04-02-2010, 13:53
Ubisoft is a really good company, PES just updates team roosters every year and slap a 50 bucks price on it and thats it. You got the same animation pretty much for last 5 years and where is the 360 they promised lol? I bought every PES game and i never bought single FIFA game, (PES) its a good game but its improvement is not very promising every year. Why did they start listening to us? Because we said they gotta work for their moneys little harder. Maybe more competition from respective company will spice things up.
Some people doubt Ubisoft can make a good football game saying they never made a very good game... but what did Konami do besides PES?? It´s not that hard to make a good sports game, just watch a lot of real life games and LISTEN to people who plays the game and KNOWS how it works, ow and also, TEST the game before launching it.
Hajnal30
04-02-2010, 16:31
Some people doubt Ubisoft can make a good football game saying they never made a very good game... but what did Konami do besides PES?? It´s not that hard to make a good sports game, just watch a lot of real life games and LISTEN to people who plays the game and KNOWS how it works, ow and also, TEST the game before launching it.
Well, Konami had many years of practice with ISS before they made PES.
douglas93
05-02-2010, 09:47
We should all pray this is true and that it turns out to be a decent game, competition doesnt do any harm and it will stop both Konami & EA taking their fanbase for granted.
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