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ChelseaDave
02-03-2004, 05:28
http://www.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,7-1125688,00.html
I kid you not, this is a real message posted on a Man Utd message board:
""why the fuck hasnt that sepp twat butted in on this one? He seems to have a view on every other aspect of the game, and is against bringing technology into the game because he wants the game to be essentially the same at all levels - so why isnt he speaking up about clubs throwing money around and trying to so blatantly buy success, thats hardly "in the spirit of the game" now is it?"
:D
Top signing Chelsea, real pace injection to our team and will provide us with real penetration. Also, signals the end for the bloody useless Joe Cole. Get back to West Ham you squeaky voiced, fancy but overall waste of time and money.
Flipper the Priest
02-03-2004, 06:21
At least they've bought a player where needed.
I would mind seein' Duff tried up front. There's no pace in the attacking line and he done a good job for Ireland in the World Cup playing alongside Keane.
Then Robben can slot in on the left.
Harry-Kewell
02-03-2004, 08:38
So Man Utd lose out to Chelsea.
I can't quite believe this though. First he goes on the record saying that he doesn’t want to play for Chelsea and that he’d only leave PSV to play for Utd (Robben Isn't Interested In Chelsea (http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/s8006.html)). Anyways… Man Utd were reluctant to pay the full price. The PSV chairman slammed Ferguson and Co for the ridiculous offer they made and basically called them a joke with the way they approached Arjen and the club (resulting in them becoming totally cut-off). So then he goes back on his word and opts for Chelsea. So much for loyalty, eh?
He is a good player who has enough potential. Left-Midfield is his position so what does that mean for Duff? Surely Chelsea can’t leave a player like Duff on the bench? And with the quality strikers that Chelsea have I really can't see DD taking one of their positions.
Flipper the Priest
02-03-2004, 08:47
If the strikers keep going (or don't keep going, as the case may be) then I could see him getting a berth up front. Chelsea have practically bought PSV. So bring in Rommedahl too!!
adams9802
02-03-2004, 13:28
Good I hope United get a reputation for being lawless poachers. That way they have to pay double!
South Dorset Blue
02-03-2004, 18:50
chelsea have now confirmed they have agreed a deal for 12 million and he will join after euro 2004!COME ON CHELSEA!!!!!!
Henry_IS_God
02-03-2004, 19:09
nah this aint too good for chelsea :(
they've got J.Cole, Duff, Gronkjaer, geremi, do chelsea need any more wingers let alone more midfielders
Henry_IS_God
02-03-2004, 19:10
and at a young age (20) it will take him a lot of time to settle (like reyes needs to) and with the way chelsea move their players about!!!
jthk2004
02-03-2004, 22:05
haha... man u and chelsea were fighting for robber... oh... robben should i say... and they are fighting for second place...
Man u offerd 5 million,
we allways offer a low price, why do u think we never got ronaldinho.
we need to offer big money upfront, and stop being so tight with our money
nah this aint too good for chelsea :(
they've got J.Cole, Duff, Gronkjaer, geremi, do chelsea need any more wingers let alone more midfielders
Umm, Joe Cole is not a winger. Jesper Gronkjaer is shit, and Geremi isn't good enough. So the answer to your question would be yes.
drunkensailor
03-03-2004, 00:05
ferguscum got what he deserved, he insulted psv and van raay with the 7 million euros bid while van raay wouldn't go any lower then 20 million euros and chelsea payed that amount
now chelsea get the best player in the world, sorry for duff but he will end up on the bench and hopefully replace mutu as a striker because mutu is pure crap
ChelseaDave
03-03-2004, 00:12
now chelsea get the best player in the world, sorry for duff but he will end up on the bench and hopefully replace mutu as a striker because mutu is pure crap
Mutu?? Crap!?? where have you been the last 2 years?? he was best overseas player in the serieA last year, maybe he's not settled that much this year, but he still has scored a few goals here and there. aswell as being one of the most hard working players in the team!
drunkensailor
03-03-2004, 00:16
wow he scored like 5 goals in 25 matches, wow, and that fir a striker, mutu plays selvis and lazy
Man u offerd 5 million,
we allways offer a low price, why do u think we never got ronaldinho.
we need to offer big money upfront, and stop being so tight with our money
bang on kcg, tight arses
look at ronaldinho this year - far and away barcas best players, now if only united had got their wallet out of their arse and paid the cash for him
mutu is total class, he may not be doing well this season but noone goes from brilliant to crap just because of that, last season he was genius for parma
ChelseaDave
03-03-2004, 00:54
wow he scored like 5 goals in 25 matches, wow, and that fir a striker, mutu plays selvis and lazy
u obviously dont watch chelsea then do u?? he might not score that much but he contributes so much for the team & he works his socks off every time he plays.
drunkensailor
03-03-2004, 01:01
when I watch mutu play at chelsea I see a selvis dribbler, very overrated and who can't score, the guy rarely has any assists too, hasselbaink for instance has way more assists and goals
ChelseaDave
03-03-2004, 01:06
hasselbaink never makes any assists, he's greedy! Yes mutu does take that extra touch sometimes, when he doesnt need to, but what he contributes to the team is brilliant! He is our creative forward. He doesnt score much true, but he is quite unlucky not to, if u think he is shit then go to an opticians mate.
Harry-Kewell
03-03-2004, 01:28
Mutu is class! Teams in Serie A emphasize heavily on defending and if a player can end up top scorer there then he has to be one of the best.
He’s having a poor spell in front of goal at the moment but he contributes a lot for the team and in my opinion he’s had a pretty good season. I've seen a lot of Chelsea games live on Sky and Premiership Plus and I have to say he’s adjusted quite well to the style of play here. He is an excellent player and I think he’ll do really well next season.
drunkensailor
03-03-2004, 01:36
hasselbaink never makes any assists, he's greedy! Yes mutu does take that extra touch sometimes, when he doesnt need to, but what he contributes to the team is brilliant! He is our creative forward. He doesnt score much true, but he is quite unlucky not to, if u think he is shit then go to an opticians mate.
I just gave u some facts?? hasselbaink has way more assist then mutu, those are not just my opinnion, it's a fact
Mutu's recent displays have changed my views of him. It's as though, over Christmas he signed up for the Joe Cole School of Football. He's playing far too selfishly now, he's not one for taking one touch when instead he can take 5, his set pieces are absolutely terrible and he's not creating enough either. He gets dispossessed far too often and his little bits of skill aren't being pulled off effeciently enough and his team-mates are having a hard time understanding his game.
Sure he runs around a lot, but unless he can re-find his earlier season form, especially now that Crespo is back from injury, it might be worth dropping him for a while.
Flipper the Priest
03-03-2004, 05:34
Umm, Joe Cole is not a winger. Jesper Gronkjaer is shit, and Geremi isn't good enough. So the answer to your question would be yes.
Never a truer word was spoken!! :D
Flipper the Priest
03-03-2004, 05:37
And I think Mutu is well greedy on the ball. Just tries to weave his way through everyone. But, given that, he has undoubtable ability, which will shine through. Sometime.
I frankly cannot wait until Forssell returns. Chelsea need pace up front. And Gudjohnsen should play when fit. IMO one of the most underrated players in the Prem if not the world.
adams9802
03-03-2004, 06:01
mutu just needs more time, but chelski need to clear out some of those players, hasselbaink, gronkaer, cole.
Nifty1Pound50
03-03-2004, 06:21
chelsea have now confirmed they have agreed a deal for 12 million and he will join after euro 2004!COME ON CHELSEA!!!!!!
And you're happy? £12 million? TWELVE MILLION POUNDS?
Call me sceptical/old-fashioned/a ****, but let's look at this objectively:
Arjen Robben, player with undoubted potential - that's all very good and well, he's got undoubted potential, the doubt is if any of it will materialise into real football in the real world of what I like to call the "present." It's where things actually take place, as opposed to the "past" where things that took place in the then "present" get talked about, and as opposed to the "future" which is simply a tool used to make excuses about money-wasters (like Robben could be). So, the more money you spend, the more excuses you can make.
You're all saying he's a left-winger - in which case he's on the bench. He's not as good as Damien Duff. I've never seen Arjen Robben play - but I'll tell you now, he's not as good as Damien Duff. This is based on the fact that there isn't a better left-winger than Damien Duff around. That's one expensive bench-warmer...
Now, if he's a striker - you're in even more trouble. If he is predominantly a striker, why did PSV sell him? If he's soooooooooooooooooo good, that is? I mean, £12 million? That's not that much in the current transfer market. So why only £12 million, for such a star? When you consider there's 'keepers who have been sold for £30 million, £12 million seems like peanuts. So, he's a bargain? No such thing, I'm afraid. PSV know more about him than Chelsea do. They know how good he is. They lied, so you'd give them £12 million, because they know he's only going to become a £5 million player at best, so they've basically conned you. Well done Abramovich, you proved that con-men can get conned. :D
You've also bought a player who clearly just wants your £398 million sign-on fees, as he was all-set to go to Manchester until they got shut out. So he thought Chelsea would do, because you'd give him *insert ludicrous number here* in wages each week. It's better than stocking shelves, that's for sure.
So, to those of you who have seen him play: is he (at this moment in time, the "present") better than Crespo? Hasselbaink? God forbid, Gudjohnsen (who's been one of your most useful signings within the last decade)? Or will he just come in, lose his place after 5 games (like Veron), and then not get a look in again while Abramovich looks for another £12 million waste?
I don't see what you're happy about.
"£12 million seems like peanuts. So, he's a bargain? No such thing, I'm afraid. PSV know more about him than Chelsea do. They know how good he is. They lied, so you'd give them £12 million, because they know he's only going to become a £5 million player at best, so they've basically conned you. Well done Abramovich, you proved that con-men can get conned."
£12m is a lot of money for a 20 year old who is still developing, Chelsea are clearly not buying the finished article. Also, I doubt PSV 'lied so we'd give them £12 million' - Ranieri's selection of transfers has come under ridiculous attack recently, but to suggest he buys someone because PSV said 'This lad's good' as opposed to using scouts is ridiculous.
PSV never paid £40m or anything for Ronaldo when they originally shipped him in South America. Buying a prospect is very different than buying a tried and tested success.
"Or will he just come in, lose his place after 5 games (like Veron)"
Veron injured his back and is recovering from surgery in Argentina, it's hardly as though he's been ignored and rejected by Ranieri.
he was best overseas player in the serieA last year
Ahem. Pavel Nedved?
Harry-Kewell
03-03-2004, 07:49
Robben's father Hans said this (on the 25th of January):
"My son will not go to Chelsea. Over my dead body will he go there," said Robben.
"They have an owner who has no philosophy or structure at the club. Chelsea just buy expensive players all over Europe and think it will make them a great team.
"But my son has been to see Sir Alex Ferguson and nobody knows better why organisation and a good structure at a top club is so important.
"Old Trafford is the only place he wants to play and if he can't play there he would rather stay at PSV.
"In fact he would rather play in their reserves than go to Chelsea. It's as simple as that," Robben told the Sunday Mirror newspaper.
Lol, very funny, don't you think?
Nifty1Pound50
03-03-2004, 23:10
Yes, hillarious. Bust-a-gut stuff. The proverbial tears of laughter are rolling down my, also proverbial - or perhaps metaphorical - eye-lids of laughter right now. ;)
ChelseaDave
03-03-2004, 23:41
Ahem. Pavel Nedved?
note according to vote.
and arjen robben plays on the right wing for PSV so i've heard, so he wont be replacing duff...
Robben plays on the left. I have seen a few of PSV's matches this season and he has played on the left for them all.
Great signing for Chelski, they really need to buy a midfielder because they really don't have enough of them. :D
Great signing for Chelski, they really need to buy a midfielder because they really don't have enough of them. :D
hint of sarcasm there? :D
guys got an obvious point - theyve bought what 8-9 midfielders this year and 2 defenders? idiots
some clubs dont even have 8/9 midfielders in their squad :o
yeah just a hint of sarcasm there. :D
But seriously, he is a good signing, or I think he will be.
Nifty1Pound50
04-03-2004, 01:42
note according to vote.
and arjen robben plays on the right wing for PSV so i've heard, so he wont be replacing duff...
Scott Parker played in central midfield for Charlton, though. And Bogarde was a good centre-back at Barcelona before he came to Chelsea. Hasselbaink hasn't always taken corners, and used to score the odd one with his head a while back, at Atletico Madrid, too.
It hasn't stopped Ranieri making them change, has it?
drunkensailor
04-03-2004, 03:59
note according to vote.
and arjen robben plays on the right wing for PSV so i've heard, so he wont be replacing duff...
ajahahahahahahahahhaah, the biggest load of bullshit I ever read
any way the reason psv sold him for only 12 million was because psv are in big fuckin debt, they need to sell their ownly player that is worth anything because otherwise psv wouldn't even have gotten a license for next year
hint of sarcasm there? :D
guys got an obvious point - theyve bought what 8-9 midfielders this year and 2 defenders? idiots
some clubs dont even have 8/9 midfielders in their squad :o
Injury List: Veron, Duff, Petit
Shit List: Cole, Geremi, Gronkjaer, Stanic, Makelele (at times)
Others: Lampard, Parker,
We could've done with 12/13 midfielders the way things have gone this season, a mixture of a ridiculous amount of injuries and buying/not selling shit players has meant Lampard has played every single game this season.
Besides, Chelsea's problem all season has been real penetration from midfield, Duff provided us with some but you can't expect one man to provide it all, although he did a pretty good job until he dislocated his shoulder. Robben's a good buy, however I think Ranieri should've bought Joaquin instead to replace that Gronkjear clown.
Also, Robben is definately a left winger for PSV although can play as a second striker so that might be where Ranieri will be fitting him in so that him and Duff can play together.
By the way, ChelseaBoys, what vote determined Mutu was the best overseas player in Italy?
We could've done with 12/13 midfielders the way things have gone this season
Injury List: Veron, Duff, Petit
Shit List: Cole, Geremi, Gronkjaer, Stanic, Makelele (at times)
Others: Lampard, Parker
lucky you've got 13 then isn't it :o
Rocastle, Makelele, Lampard, Cole, Duff, Stanic, Geremi, Petit, Parker, Veron, Nicolas, Oliveira, Gronkjaer
and lampard should play every game if he's up to it, best player you got
Stanic is frequently on the bench for Chelsea, but never even bothers to get dresssed! Putting him on the shit list was a bit harsh though, perhaps he should be on the not good enough list instead. Rocastle is 17 and is hardly getting in the reserve games and Oliveira is a striker, just CFC.com got his position wrong!
So they don't count!
oliviera can play as a forward winger or an omf in the hole
and the other two do count
what counts is that Chelsea needs better players at other positions much more crucially than midfielders. that's for sure.
if u have a lot of money to spend and your name is ranieri u should look into buying a good defensive back. the johnson kid got lots of potential but he's unstable as mercury. they should be getting a good LB, a good CB for starters.
after that they should worry about their midfield.
drunkensailor
05-03-2004, 00:58
johnson sucks at defending
Little harsh, but on-the-point. Although he had a terrific game (defensively and attacking) against Stuttgart. Maybe he's learning.
and the other two do count
I was being sarcastic, but I also don't think you can seriously count players who never play, and have no real chance of playing in the near future as part of Chelsea's current midfield.
Henry_IS_God
05-03-2004, 18:08
J.Cole is too small and too good to play center, ranieiri will never play him in the center, hes a winger!
Duff ---- Makele----- Lampard ------ Robben
J.Cole is too small and too good to play center, ranieiri will never play him in the center, hes a winger!
Duff ---- Makele----- Lampard ------ Robben
Aint Robben a left footer.
Henry_IS_God
05-03-2004, 18:15
dunno, i fink so :( just put duff on the right then :)
J.Cole is too small and too good to play center, ranieiri will never play him in the center, hes a winger!
Joe Cole's best position is back at West Ham.
Joaquin......Lampard.....Parke r......Duff
.............................R obben
................Crespo
joaquin? :eek: havnt been paying attention
I looked into my crystal ball for that one!
If Chelsea got Joaquin they would have a superb midfield.
drunkensailor
07-03-2004, 04:20
no they wouldn't they would just have an overfilled midfield
How would it not be superb??
drunkensailor
07-03-2004, 06:13
many egos means amny problems
breaking news -
Nedved, Trezeguet, Thuram and Lippi might be leaving Juve in the summer.
not quite sure about the authencity of this info, but even if half of it is true - it means that Juve are either going to do some serious shopping, or that they are going for a "financial year".
del piero is too old, they gave away davids, montero and ferrara are totally old, and in short - situation's shit.
Harry-Kewell
11-03-2004, 00:14
This has certainly been a season to forget for them. Can Juventus hold on to there players though? Zambrotta maybe heading to the Nou Camp and Newcastle are interested in signing Di Vaio.
Zambrotta maybe heading to the Nou Camp
"the Nou Camp" doesn't really help much
inter or ac?
Harry-Kewell
11-03-2004, 00:18
Barcelona.
my god
what a turd, i blame school :) lol
i dunno if youve noticed but "the Nou Camp" doesn't really help much
inter or ac?
it helps a lot Mutu. u meant San Siro.
yes weve figured that out now :)
barcelona are clearing you out then eh
Harry-Kewell
11-03-2004, 00:20
my god
what a turd, i blame school :) lol
lol :D
don't laugh - its not funny you'll only encourage me to do it again
retarded is what it be
anyway after about 8 posts of pure spam lets get back on topic and forget i ever said anything :)
i dont think newcastle will get di vaio and i dont think he'd go anyway
giving davids to barca was Lippi's biggest mistake ever, and if he gives Di Vaio to newcastle without bringing a real high quality, and I mean top 5 quality striker then he is a fuckin shithead.
Juve are looking bad, Del Piero is out for about 2 months, Milan will demolish us next week and everything's gone to fuckin hell. :(
they basically need to get a new striker, a new defensive back, a new defensive MF, someone with class to play left side, the list isn't over...
aside from Nedved, who let's not forget, will be celebrating 32 next year, and Buffon, I think that Juve of today is a very average team.
What about Trezeguet, Thuram and Zambrotta. I consider them to be world class players.
What about Trezeguet, Thuram and Zambrotta. I consider them to be world class players.
that's right. if juve are not going to do some serious money spending they will look like a team of shitbrains. maybe they'll make some money off nedved like they did with zidane, also make a buck or to for trez and thuram - they still have 2 buy the following:
world class striker instead of del piero
world class side back - thuram
world class omf - nedved
world class dmf - tacchinardi and pessoto are shit, i'm talking about davids
world class defender - montero and ferrara belong in a retirement farm
that's some serious spending. maybe they should call Roman :D
or maybe FIAT start making better selling cars....
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