View Full Version : WrestleMania XXVI
I considered sticking to the PPV discussion thread, but if there's one PPV that needs a thread of its own, it's WrestleMania baby! :joel:
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Card so far:
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13590724
World Heavyweight Championship
Chris Jericho vs. Edge
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13591108
WWE Championship
Batista vs. John Cena
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No Disqualifications, No Countouts
Streak vs. Career
The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13665596
No Holds Barred
Bret Hart vs. Mr. McMahon
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Money In The Bank Ladder Match
Kane vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Evan Bourne vs. MVP vs. Christian vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Jack Swagger vs. Matt Hardy vs. Drew McIntyre
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13816584
CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13722954
Triple H vs. Sheamus
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/13782996
Triple Threat Match
Ted DiBiase Jr. vs. Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes
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Unified Tag Team Championships
Big Show & The Miz vs. John Morrison & R-Truth
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Mickie James, Kelly Kelly, Eve, Gail Kim & Beth Phoenix vs. Michelle McCool, Layla, Maryse, Alicia Fox & Vickie Guerrero
At this stage I'm really looking forward to it. Best stacked card since WMXX, potentially. Hopefully they've learned from last year's mistakes and intend to make this one brilliant. :nath:
This will be the first event I've ordered in years. I hope the Miz isn't stuck in a tag-match, I want to see him win the MITB. I can see big Zeke winning it though, providing he qualifies.
Dream MITB:
Christian
Evan Bourne/Jack Swagger
Kofi Kingston
Dolph Ziggler
The Miz
John Morrison
After reading the SD spoilers though, that's not going to happen.
muscularmatt
25-02-2010, 20:16
I can see that WWE title match complicating some more, maybe stick HHH and Seamus into a fourway? But it does look like the start of a good card. Looks like Cena/Taker is gonna be next year then. That HAS to happen.
Taker and HBK are taking time off after Mania no?
Also heard that Triple-threat Legacy could have all fathers in each corner :joel:
muscularmatt
25-02-2010, 20:54
Well I've heard that both of them are due to retire reasonably soon, so I dunno? Surely the days of someone 'retiring' and then being back a couple of months later are over?
There's little point in bringing Undertaker's Wrestlemania record to an end now. It is something that should live on in wrestling history and folklore for generations. And it gives 'Taker an in to return every now and again for the coming years. The record should especially not go to a season veteran who is going to be calling it a day himself in the not so distant future. Neither should it go to some rookie or mid-card jobber. I don't watch WWE (or any wrestling for that matter) any longer so I can't say who would hypothetically be a good choice to give a big push off ending the Undertaker's record, but Shawn Michaels? He made it, a long, long time ago. And he is going to retire soon. He doesn't need it, and neither shall the company benefit should he gain it. If HBK wins it'll be a sort of anti-climax.
I'm thinking of a Stone Cold Steve Austion, '97 to '98. Or The Rock in '98. Bret Hart, '91 to '92. Shawn Michaels in '95. Chris Jericho in 2000. Someone who is on fire and about to take over the world. Jericho was the hottest ticket in wrestling for a long time in 2000 but he never made it into the big players bracket, not until a good year later after turning heel (after being the biggest face on the planet) and then getting crushed back down to mid-card pretender via Triple H. Anyway. Are there any players in WWE at present, who are one final nudge away from taking over the world, as such?
And if Undertaker hits the tombstone and sends HBK packing. Well, what a send off it will be for Michaels. Great opponent. Great venue. It just feels right.
BarnDoor
25-02-2010, 22:00
Plus Michaels looks an old cancer these days, he'd do well to pack it in.
'Taker isn't looking much better tbf. To say he resembles a bag of smashed assholes, would be an understatement. I wont miss him much, he's long past it. HBK on the other hand will be sorely missed.
I would have preferred a passing of the torch match too, but there's not many worthy of "ending" HBK's career. Orton is a major player now and doesn't need the win. Miz isn't worthy. Punk would be a better choice, but as I suck his dick, I'm probably a little biased. No one else really jumps out.
Are there any players in WWE at present, who are one final nudge away from taking over the world, as such?
Not really. Certainly no-one to 'break' the streak. It's not there to be ended I don't think and I'm sure each year they spend time thinking of an opponent for the smarks to believe could genuinely end it. Which is why many are thinking the streak will go this year since Michaels' has his career on the line.
People have their title reigns, Rumble victories etc. that can always be matched or topped, but no-one will EVER match 17-0+ at WrestleMania. Which should always remain intact as Undertaker's 'legacy' above all else.
One person who isn't a fully fledged main eventer who should be at the moment is CM Punk, but he's still a 3-time world champion and will soon be back involved there. Shouldn't be long before Christian gets his chance there too (who will be the freshest main eventer in a long time).
At this stage I'm really looking forward to it. Best stacked card since WMXX, potentially. Hopefully they've learned from last year's mistakes and intend to make this one brilliant. :nath:
Hopefully it turns out better than XX, as that only had two good matches.
I can see that WWE title match complicating some more, maybe stick HHH and Seamus into a fourway?
Vince and Bret will be involved some how, so it will only be Batista vs Cena in the actual match.
Plus Michaels looks an old cancer these days, he'd do well to pack it in.
He's still better than more than half the current people out there though. Tbh, I don't even think I have to use the word current, because he is still better than a lot of past people were in their peak.
Shouldn't be long before Christian gets his chance there too (who will be the freshest main eventer in a long time).
That is nothing but a dream I'm afraid. Him turning up on Raw killed all hopes. He's never going to hold the title with Cena, HHH, Orton and Seamus ahead of him.
BarnDoor
26-02-2010, 10:03
Dan I agree about Taker, but you can't deny he at least looks better than Michaels. Nothing wrong with HBK's physique, but his wonky eye and receding hairline just don't cut it anymore.
That is nothing but a dream I'm afraid. Him turning up on Raw killed all hopes. He's never going to hold the title with Cena, HHH, Orton and Seamus ahead of him.
Are you ruling out the chance of him winning MITB and cashing in on the Smackdown champion?! :shifty:
Undertaker's the 'deadman' so I suppose he's allowed to look like a rotting corpse, it may even benefit his gimmick looking 300 years old. Whereas Michaels is still trying to be a sexy boy..
Undertaker vs. Michael again? I don't really follow wrestling but whats the idea behind this? Couldn't find another match for Undertaker? Same storyline?
Don't get me wrong, last year's match was amazing and definitely match of the year for me. But a repeat makes me curious, I mean, Shawn won't beat the Deadman's record will he? :unsure:
This is the only PPV I watch, looks to be a good one so far!
Are you ruling out the chance of him winning MITB and cashing in on the Smackdown champion?! :shifty:
His chances of winning MITB rocketed up after Drew lost. As long as Sheamus is facing HHH, then he'll be the favourite. But knowing WWE, Christian will probably be the first person to cash it in and lose.
Undertaker vs. Michael again? I don't really follow wrestling but whats the idea behind this? Couldn't find another match for Undertaker? Same storyline?
Don't get me wrong, last year's match was amazing and definitely match of the year for me. But a repeat makes me curious, I mean, Shawn won't beat the Deadman's record will he? :unsure:
This is the only PPV I watch, looks to be a good one so far!
This yeah Michaels' career is on the line.
Since we've a 24 hour spoiler rule:
Are they really going to do Bret/Vince? I still think they'll be involved in the Batista/Cena feud instead, especially since Vince is facing Cena next week.
MITB looks a lot weaker than I wanted/expected. Christian's the only potential winner at the moment.
Original?
02-03-2010, 18:37
Bret is actually wrestling a match? I might actually watch it for that.
BarnDoor
02-03-2010, 18:47
If Bret wrestles a match he'll embarass himself in new ways I didn't think were possible. He's already tarnishing his legacy with this worthless comeback, fuck knows what else he might do to it.
Bret is actually wrestling a match? I might actually watch it for that.
Bret was your favourite, so I'd advise you against it. With all he has suffered, he won't be anything like he was. It'll probably be a street fight to, so he'll just brawl with McMahon until he puts him in the sharpshooter.
I doubt he can even pull of his trademark snap suplex, because he would land on the back of his head and I don't think he can take any bumps to the head.
Edit: I'm guessing that the last two MITB contestants will be Big Zeke and Kofi.
BarnDoor
02-03-2010, 20:43
If Bret died in the ring it could be hilarious.
Jonno394
02-03-2010, 20:45
How about the brett/owens corpse reunion?
Original?
02-03-2010, 23:11
Bret was your favourite, so I'd advise you against it. With all he has suffered, he won't be anything like he was. It'll probably be a street fight to, so he'll just brawl with McMahon until he puts him in the sharpshooter.
I'm not ten anymore, I'm well aware that he's not in the same physical shape however I still think he can put on a decent wrestling display. He never took massive bumps and doesn't need to in order to put on an entertaining match.
I doubt he can even pull of his trademark snap suplex, because he would land on the back of his head and I don't think he can take any bumps to the head.
No, he shouldn't be taking any bumps to the head. That said neither person lands on their head during a snap suplex. I wouldn't be expecting him to suplex McMahon or drop a diving elbow on him from the second rope but this wouldn't stop it from being an entertaining match.
Even if it is just a brawl and then the sharpshooter? Fine. There's always the chance Bret's emotional imbalance caused by his stroke will strike just as he locks in the sharpshooter... I would love to see him put the hold on McMahon for real as it fucking hurts (as does the figure four leg lock applied for real).
I'm not ten anymore, I'm well aware that he's not in the same physical shape however I still think he can put on a decent wrestling display. He never took massive bumps and doesn't need to in order to put on an entertaining match.
I kind of thought it would be the other way around: When you're young, you just want your favourite to win, but when you're older, you want to see a good performance. I actually agree in thinking it will be entertaining (Vince will go all out to make sure Bret looks good, he always does this in his matches), but at the same time, it will be strange seeing Bret in the ring and not able to use many of his trademark moves.
No, he shouldn't be taking any bumps to the head. That said neither person lands on their head during a snap suplex. I wouldn't be expecting him to suplex McMahon or drop a diving elbow on him from the second rope but this wouldn't stop it from being an entertaining match.
I wouldn't rule out the diving elbow from the second rope! The reason why I mentioned the snap suplex, is because Bret's movement has to be quick when delivering the move, so there is always chance that he will hit the back of his head on the canvas after his opponent goes over. But, as you say, it's unlikely we'll see that move, because McMahon probably wouldn't know how to take it.
Even if it is just a brawl and then the sharpshooter? Fine. There's always the chance Bret's emotional imbalance caused by his stroke will strike just as he locks in the sharpshooter... I would love to see him put the hold on McMahon for real as it fucking hurts (as does the figure four leg lock applied for real).
:laugh:
muscularmatt
03-03-2010, 04:04
This is something I've been thinking of all along. Is Bret just playing along (he's been apathetic to say the least throughout the whole comeback) and waiting till Vince trusts him to break out the REAL revenge? Like at 'mania he just throws the match out the window, punches Vince in the gob and then reveals a TNA t shirt and walks off...
You never know with Bret Hart, he's full of surprises. Looking good so far!
BarnDoor
03-03-2010, 09:35
I don't think Vince vs. Bret will happen anyway. I think Bret is intelligent enough to know he'd look stupid doing it.
I say they bring Jim Neidhart in too. The Hart Foundation vs. The New Hart Foundation W/Vince.
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Then again..
BarnDoor
03-03-2010, 11:37
That'll work. Dig up Stu, Davey Boy, Pillman and Owen, and throw in Dynamite Kid in his wheelchair, along with Keith and Bruce, and it could be a truly great contest.
Except for the Legacy storyline, they are doing well building things up. I think the Legacy storyline is a week or two behind from what it should be by now.
You look at the MITB picture (first page) and you say Christian is definitely winning that. But this will only happen if Drew faces Kofi. If he doesn't then, Drew is definitely going to be in the match and he will win it.
Yeah, I thought they may have done the handicap match at 'Mania, or have DiBiase and Rhodes turn on each other. But it doesn't seem likely either will happen. People have suggested Kofi as Orton's partner in a tag match, which doesn't appeal to me (due to making zero sense).
Urgh if Drew won. I'm not a hater like some, but WWE must realise it's Christian's time and not force feed us McIntyre.
Triple H referring to his burial by Warrior made me laugh. I half expected them to show footage in the end.
Smackdown spoilers:
-Drew does 'qualify' for MITB, making it now a 9-man clusterfuck.
-Rey vs. Punk is a go for Mania.
Orton is so hot right now. He must never turn face though. He needs to be a lone wolf. A one man wolf gang! He needs some fresh opponents after the Legacy angle is over though. I could really do without Cena vs Orton again.
I wouldn't mind seeing Orton face if he was allowed to act as he does, but just against the heels. But you know the writers are going to turn him into someone who panders to the audience.
Guillermo, Christian was over as hell in 2005, and WWE didn't care. He is 5 years older now and WWE seem more interested in Sheamus and Drew, so I don't like his odds.
I didn't read the Smackdown spoilers (I never do), but I'm hoping that your spoiler says Drew vs Kofi or something similar.
As long as he grows his luscious locks back, I don't mind. :joel:
A lot of people are loving the "I Made It" theme by Kevin Rudolf, but I'm in the opinion it's pretty shit. Regardless of it being a fitting song.
As long as he grows his luscious locks back, I don't mind. :joel:
A lot of people are loving the "I Made It" theme by Kevin Rudolf, but I'm in the opinion it's pretty shit. Regardless of it being a fitting song.
Now I know what that spoiler is about. But I knew that match would be made, with those stipulations, so it's not really a spoiler to me I guess.
I like the "I Made It" song. It's not better than "Let It Rock", but I think it's pretty cool. It's better than Ashley's old theme anyway.
muscularmatt
10-03-2010, 22:23
The song is okay, but it's nowhere near as epic as it needs to be. Something really loud and energetic would be better
Bret Hart is my favorite wrestler of all time. I tuned into RAW to see his "comeback" and the subsequent appearances that followed. But it has to be said that for the most part they've been quite poor. And a "match" at Wrestlemania, a street fight or otherwise, will probably be dire due to Hart's physical condition (he had a stroke for christ sake). I appreciate that he wants to have one final swan song, to say "goodbye" on his own terms, and to bury the Montreal Screwjob once and for all by doing both. But the history he left behind, his legacy, is in danger of being tarnished. And the risk involved to make it look even half respectable is surely too much.
I'm hoping this is just a one off for the Hitman. That after this, however it goes, he leaves it all behind for good. I'd hate to see him become Ric Flair; a bitter old cunt who should have left our screens nevermind retired from wrestling two decades ago.
Bret's mic work has been the most disappointing thing of all. He was never that great, but it really shows when he's in the ring with Vince or Cena.
BarnDoor
12-03-2010, 13:24
Oh rest assured Bret is, and will remain, a bitter old cunt, but at the very least I shouldn't imagine he'll be on our screens for too much longer.
executioner
12-03-2010, 15:24
Bret's mic work has been the most disappointing thing of all. He was never that great, but it really shows when he's in the ring with Vince or Cena.
Definetly. Though I suppose when he wrestling it wasn't his mic skills that made him a star now eh?
The match will probably be five-ten minutes of Vince pounding him down, posing and then sharpshooters. Yawn.
On the other hand though, I wanna' know which protein supplement Big Dave is taking to transform him into such a badass. I love the jacket and shades if not the whole "I don't give a fuck" mentality.
Someone I know started watching wrestling recently, and was raving about Batista being the best heel in the WWE, and probably of all time. The latter statement is silly, but Batista is so good at this role, seems to have got into real good shape and found a look that suits him perfectly. That whole spotlight entrance he does is great.
muscularmatt
12-03-2010, 23:32
This heel turn is awesome. He's looks serious. Plus, all the cynical over 18's will be cheering for him at mania - he represents the opposite of John Cena. Facial hair, leather jackets, covered in tatoos - he's bad ass. Whereas Cena is just dayglow t shirts and wristbands, and that 'eat your vitamins and never give up' attitude. It's like they are trying to recreate 80's Hogan and I DO NOT LIKE
I knew Christian winning MITB was too true to believe.
I don't care who wins the WWE Title match. People will carry on to hate on Cena, but he's ten times the worker that Batista is. He has him beat on most areas - ring work, charisma and overness being the important ones.
That said, I wouldn't mind Big Dave retaining, because his heel turn has been great so far. I won't mind to see him continue with the title and feud with a face HHH (although that probably won't happen, because I think HHH is turning at WM).
But with Dave always ending up on top, telling Cena, "you can't beat me", "bad things happens to you when we're in the ring together" and also calling him out on being the face of WWE, I can only see a Cena win.
I think the World Heavyweight title is more difficult to call.
It's going to be a 10-man Money In The Bank says Michael Cole, so I think we're all under the assumption it'll be Kofi as the tenth. Though if it was a Kofi vs Ezekiel Jackson qualifier I'd be unsure.
muscularmatt
14-03-2010, 01:34
HHH (although that probably won't happen, because I think HHH is turning at WM).
I can see that. The way HBK acted as if he was going to turn heel after not getting into the Elimination Chamber, it made sense that they'd actually end out with Trips turning on him somehow.
And Cena will win. Obviously. I hope it isn't the main event, because it's most predictable result on the card. And I DO mean including Vince and Bret's awkwardathon.
Card is pretty much done (bar a divas match), and it looks great imo. There doesn't look many unpredictable matches but if they're good viewing, I don't care.
muscularmatt
21-03-2010, 04:39
Taker/Michaels II is my main event. It would be nice if they put even after both world titles, but they won't. Cena/Batista will be boring and predictable seems as though we know who's going to win and neither of them can wrestle. Edge/Jericho should be a good one. Two really good workers with a good moveset. MITB will be insane with Bourne in there, and surely this year has to produce the first MITB winner to go on to fail..?
Taker/Michaels II is my main event. It would be nice if they put even after both world titles, but they won't. Cena/Batista will be boring and predictable seems as though we know who's going to win and neither of them can wrestle. Edge/Jericho should be a good one. Two really good workers with a good moveset. MITB will be insane with Bourne in there, and surely this year has to produce the first MITB winner to go on to fail..?
2006 called: It wants its comment back.
Did you see their SummerSlam 2008 match? You must not have, as if you did, you won't be saying this.
The result is predictable. But these two have good chemistry together and will put on a great match.
Their feud has been 10x better than Jericho and Edge's. All that feud is about is fucking, "spear, spear, spear". I've lost interest for that match, as it's been built up horribly.
BarnDoor
21-03-2010, 14:46
On that note, can I just say that Edge has the shittest spear in history, and I hate it when the commentators and WWE in general try and make out like it's some sort of 'devastating' move.
It does look weak, but he has been doing in since his Brood days (although it wasn't always his "finisher"), so there's no point in him changing it.
BarnDoor
21-03-2010, 15:15
It was a mistake to adopt it in the first place. I reckon Vince's mentality was, 'Well, WCW and ECW have top guys with spears in their arsenal, why don't we?' (Even if Edge wasn't a top guy back then)
I wouldn't be surprised. That move should only be used by big guys. Rhino wasn't the biggest, but he was built like a house.
BarnDoor
21-03-2010, 15:32
Rhino's Gore was very good, but no one could beat Goldberg's. At times he put so much ferocity into it you wouldn't be surprised if he snapped someone in two.
IPmDUOGwHwU
Even Big Show's spears are better than Edge's. Albeit, also hilarious to watch.
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What was Jericho trying to do their exactly? Still the best match Rhyno had in the WWE mind.
I've quite enjoyed the "one move can change everything" argument from Edge's side and the "bad things happen to you when we're in the ring together" from Jericho, if I'm honest.
I've quite enjoyed the "one move can change everything" argument from Edge's side and the "bad things happen to you when we're in the ring together" from Jericho, if I'm honest.
But that's the thing, the "bad things happen to you when we're in the ring together" is being diluted by, "Spear, Spear, Spear" crap. It's so damn annoying.
I understand why he is doing it, because some how it is over. But that sums up the casual wrestling fans.
I'm definitely looking forward to the other two main events, more than Edge vs Jericho. And coming into WM, that was the one match I wanted to see the most.
Turns out there will be a 5v5 diva match. I give it no more than five minutes.
You gonna do a pre show write up, like you did last year, Andy?
Heh, might do. I'll do it Sunday so no-one steals my predictions (admittedly, I got most wrong last year :faceplm:).
As long as you add the Michael Cole parts, it's all good.
muscularmatt
27-03-2010, 01:46
Turns out there will be a 5v5 diva match. I give it no more than five minutes.
What, the match? Or how long you last before having to go to the bathroom to clean up?
Remember to use spoiler tags, guys.
Swagger, WTF?!
JERICHOOOOOOOOOO!
:lmao: at Cena and Batista can't wrestle.
BEST. TOMBSTONE. EVER.
Gutted Shawn is gone though and surprised HHH didn't turn heel.
My thoughts:
Tag match - Absolute waste of talent.
Triple-threat - Entertaining for what is was, which was basically a handicap match, but Orton's comeback was pretty sweet.
MITB - Sweet Jesus, I expected something rotten and boy did it deliver. A clusterfuck of epic proportions. Swagger? Really? He's had about one good match since moving to RAW, the rest have seen him do nothing but job. Kofi on the other hand has done nothing but impress, although that stilts thing was hilarious. And Christian, well, the guy could get into a feud with any of the top dogs on either show and it would be an entertaining, money making feud. Who wouldn't pay to see Edge vs Christian for example?
HHH vs. Sheamus - This was decent enough, predictable but decent. I had to laugh at the guy in the crowd shouting FACEBUSTER YEAAAAH! just as Haitch was about to hit it. Sheamus should have done something to get his heat back however because now the feud seems as good as dead.
Rey vs. Punk - Not bad, but not great either. They didn't get anywhere near long enough to show what they could do and in the end, it just came across as a TV match. The finish was pretty cool though.
Bret vs. Vince - This was just [I]terrible[\I]. I could list everything I hated about this and it still wouldn't describe how truly wretched it was. I imagine manya die-hard Bret fan almost choked to death on their own rage. Bret ended up looking like the bad-guy and it killed the crowd for the next match.
Jericho vs. Edge - I actually thought this was pretty decent. They're capable of a lot better, but given the circumstances, I thought things turned out quite well with both guys looking strong in the end. Jericho yelling ASK HIM! within the first minute was great. As was the spear through the barrier.
Divas match - Who gives a shit.
Cena vs Batista - I knew these two were capable of a good match and they delivered. Not particularly happy with the finish or the result GOD DAMN, but for the most part, it was an entertaining bout and the best title match of the night.
Mr. Wrestlemania vs. Undertaker - Clearly match of the night and great from start to finish. Moonsault through the table was awesome and although I usually don't like to see guys kicking out of multiple finishes, this was different. Not as good as last year, but I didn't expect it to be. Sad to see HBK go, as he's undeniably the true best there is, best there was, and best there ever will be, but at least he went down in style. Some will argue a younger guy could have got the rub, but looking at the roster, who would be worthy really? Although I must be the only one who wanted to see HBK vs HHH one last time with the two of them embracing in the ring. That would have been more emotional for me.
And now for a bit of controversy; I honestly wish they both retired. I've grown to dislike 'Taker quite a bit. He was never a guy I really liked. Everything from the American Badass gimmick to his current one have sucked. His entrance is too long. He's not exactly great on the mic and his matches since 2000 onwards, with few exceptions are forgettable. Of course he delivered here, but I still think he should be the guy that only performs at 'Mania from now on. I respect him, but I sure as hell don't like him.
Firstly lots of matches were too short.
Tag match - Very dissappointing, just too short nothing fantastic happened. I was hoping for R-Truth and JM to win aswell they have a great energy and a better understanding as partners than most.
Triple-threat - Not too bad a match would have like the Rhodes/DiBiase go a bit more mental and have more scrap time.
MITB - This was pretty sweet, i guarantee anyone making a winners prediction was wrong, Jack Swagger i mean what?!?! and his time to unlock the case was cringy. Kofi Kingston proved why he should have more chances and how he should be pushed higher up the ladder (no pun intended) Christian was my prediction if that failed i thought maybe McIntyre. Also Evan Bourne is captivating to watch, something seriously lacking in WWE.
HHH vs. Sheamus - This was just a decent match not much to say. Dan was right about the Facebuster, quality.
Rey vs. Punk - Thought this had potential, CM Punk is awesome and Rey puts on a good show, time cut short for this to be decent. The ending was decent but this could have been awesome.
Bret vs Vince - Cringy, Bret really should leave WWE and i hope he does, this was just sillyness.
Jericho vs Edge - Not too bad a match pity it got better once it had finished
Divas match - Time that could have gone to better matches
Cena vs Batista - This was better than i thought considering they both lack the moves, attitude and egos made it good though.
HBK vs Undertaker - Pretty decent match, i like seeing a lot of finishers which is good they happened. Moonsault was awesome, the cutthroat gestures were class, if this match was like 5 years back when he retired it could have been the greatest match ever. I was thinking HBK was winning this so i was totally shocked haha, i'd have liked HBK to kick out of a Tombstone then hit with another kicked out so the undertaker has ti hit one more to keep him down. It was the best match of the night though. I don't know how long the Taker will be going and how his career will end. Surely he can't retire undefeated at WM? and who's big enough to take him down HHH?
My view, I thought there was a lot of nerves and too many safe measures going on. Looking back if they cut out the Hart, Tag and Diva matches they could have had more time to make the other matches better. And did some of the wrestlers lack pyrotechnics, like Kofi?
Quick summary:
Tag match - 3 minutes? What the hell are they supposed to do in that time? They delivered for the time they had, but that's the length of a Raw match.
**
Triple threat - Cody's attire and music? In the words of Cole, "I've never seen that before". Cody and Ted's rolling around reminded me of 6 year olds fighting. Orton pose is back!
** 3/4
MITB - Hahaha worst decision of the night. Two months ago Swagger was jobbing to Santino. And what about his "if I win, I'm cashing in that night" on Raw? Stupid. Talk all you want about Kofi botching, but at least he doesn't botch a briefcase opening.
***1/2
HHH/Sheamus - Solid. About the performance I expected.
***
Punk/Rey - 7 minutes? They deserved at least double that time. Great for what it was, but ruined of any sort of classic status.
***1/4
Bret/Vince - Horrid. A very long and tedious beat down. Took forever to do the Sharpshooter, by which point nobody cared.
*
Edge/Jericho - They did OK. Lawler shit over the ending by thinking Jericho didn't hit the Codebreaker. Would have preferred the Spear spot mid-match.
***
Diva match - Fuck that. Vickie with a failsplash, failpin (seriously, at WrestleMania my God) and failtitjiggle. Beth needed to kill her.
1/2*
Cena/Batista - Good stuff from both. Boring start that dragged but it wasn't long before the pace picked up. Excellent countering, though slightly disappointed with STF winning again. It's not even a particularly feared move. Cena's entrance was crap.
*** 1/2
Taker/HBK - Match of the night again. Not as good as last year (as expected), but they still put on a match.
**** 1/4
MITB winner:
Anyone else thinks Swagger will be the first person to cash in and lose? I seriously don't understand why he is getting this push. As Andy said, he was jobbing to Santino a few months ago and he only got his first win of 2010 a few weeks ago. Plus, he is never on Raw.
I actually don't mind Swagger at all. I thought he done a great job on ECW. But I just don't think it's his time yet.
I'm not a Christian mark, but it is so frustrating to see a guy so talented wasted like this. I knew when he was drafted to Raw he was screwed. Smackdown suits him so much more. It's so clear to see.
Hart vs McMahon
I agree that this match was pretty terrible, but the way Bret was delivering the chair shots were hilarious. He was actually hitting McMahon with them, rather than hitting the mat.
MITB
I really hope he loses although i think this could be kept until he builds up throughout the next few months then has a crack at it. Still Kofi always puts on a good show, he's energetic has a few nice moves aswell. Christian should easily be up with CM Punk and getting pushed like motherfuckers. Really wish the Killswitch got pulled off on the ladders too.
If they really are going to go ahead with the Money In The Bank PPV then it needs to cashed in before July. I'm not having a stable of briefcase holders.
Like last year, I think the bookers fucked up and not the wrestlers. I didn't even realise Cena/Batista got less time than their SummerSlam match. Everything felt underdeveloped and there was too many video packages (not 1 but 2 for Extreme Rules ffs).
My thoughts on WM 26.
SPOILERS
ShoMiz vs. R-Truth & Morrison:
This was way too short and I was surprised when it ended that quick. This is tag team match and it deserved much better. Oh it was a Unified tag team championship match, they could have done something more. Nothing special in this match and I have quickly forgotten it.
Triple Threat:
There was always going to be the clear winner, Randy Orton. So it was just a matter of how he finished the other two separately. Punt & a smashing RKO at the end. I hope Orton gets back to the top soon.
MITB:
Even I am surprised on why Swagger has gotten this. To be honest, I know nothing about him but I defintely know Christian would have been a better choice. He could have attract more fans and gain a lot of interest, not this Swagger. And the amount of time he needed to unhook the suitcase! Imagine he couldn't find a way to unhook and needed someone's assistance to do it for him :lol:.
Kofi Kingston's ladder move was quite cool, I hope he gets a push sooner or later. One more thing - why doesn't Benjamin ever get a decent push as well? Everytime I have seen him he wrestles well. He's athletic, quick & technical. Maybe his mic skills aren't that good?
HHH v. Sheamus:
Could have gone either way but I'm glad Triple H won. Lots of people seem to hate him and I don't know why. He can be an asshole sometimes but he's fantastic. Match wasn't anything special but I liked the Pedigree at the end. Now I don't know if Sheamus is any good but no way he should continue this feud. Time to move on.
CM Punk v. Mysterio:
This was also a very short match for two superstars who could do much better. Garbage stipulations in my opinion, they should have just played a real, longer, better match. These two together have lots of potential and could go a long way. I liked Mysterio's 619 at the end though.
Bret Hart v. Vince:
Bret Hart please leave WWE now. You got your 'revenge' and I'm glad for you, but don't stick around any longer or you will damage your image even more. Last night's match was horrendous. I was a Bret fan too and was happy to see the sharpshooter but Vince hardly did anything to make it interesting in the slightest bit. I tried being optimistic but it just didn't cut for me. Anyway Bret you are in peace now.
Edge v. Jericho:
This was the only match where I wasn't bothered that I got my prediction wrong. I have started to like Jericho more and I'm happy he won instead. His mic skills are fantastic and I won't forget last year how he was playing around with the three legends, he was great. Match was a bit disappointing and I think they can do better, but maybe, they're saving Jericho for another opponent. As for the 'spear' on the table at the end, it was decent enough. BUT I don't understand where do they get the idea that Edge's spear (!) is something lethal and career threatening? It was always a normal move to me. Oh and I'm surprised that Edge didn't even executed it once during the match given how much they emphasized the 'spear'.
Divas match:
Guerrero did horrible at the end and the pin was even worse. I couldn't care less about this match.
Batista v. Cena:
Only recently have I been impressed with Batista. His mic skills has been great lately and he seems like a badass. But unfortunately John Cena just had to win again and I'm getting tired of him. I can understand though - Cena attracts millions. As for the match itself, it was a good one and quite entertaining but I am disappointed how it ended (not like the STFU is anything special too!). It would have been more suitable if Cena FU'd Batista. Also, hopefully Batista doesn't fall out of the radar now.
Taker v. Michaels:
I love Undertaker. Since I was a kid I would follow him week in week out. I love watching him wrestle and he truly entertains me. I knew however that before this match began that Undertaker would win, but I still watch it, I'm that much of a fan. It was a great match and easily the match of the night. Not as epic as last year's one but then again, how could they top that? Still, a very good match. I'm glad Taker ended Michaels career as it is truly deserving. I'm happy for the way Michaels finished his career "defiant till the end", he went out in style.
Michaels v Taker was great, though I feel last years might of been the better match. Wasn't that sort of 'wow' factor, you almost knew he would kick out of some of those moves until the final tombstone, which was pretty devastating, looked awesome.
Some of the signs were pretty cool, particularly "Norway hates Cena", "Batista likes Fishsticks" and "If Cena wins we want a refund."
Pissed off Cena won, his performance was shit, took forever to get that FU going and then almost stuffed the STF as well, shittest champ.
Bret v Vince was horrid, worst match I've seen in a while, would of been way cooler if Hart had stayed on Vince's side, reminded me of The Corporation when they were coming down the ramp with Vince. Should of run with the Hart family turning on Vince IMO, though that would mean the feud would have to go on longer.. yuck
HHH v Sheamus was meh, not really much behind it, though I'm pretty impressed by Sheamus tbh, hopefully he gets another and longer title push pretty soon so Cena will go to make some movies and not come back to WWE hopefully.
Punk v Rey was decent, though wish Punk had won, not much to say on this, storyline was a dud IMO
Money in the bank was decent, needed more highflying though IMO , also ! @ Kofi botching his run up the ladder to kick Kane or whatever he was trying to do. Pretty epic that Swagger won, going to be interesting what happens, WWE trying to make some of their new wrestlers main event status sooner rather then later. Perhaps some retirements could be coming up..
Happy that Mizshow won, as I feel would be a step down if Morrison and Rtruth won, as well as holding back Morrison as IMO he should still be going for the intercontinteal title, and then heavyweight title bit furthur down the road.
Diva's match was shit, only good thing being how much Vickie botched the frog splash I think it was, looked like a seal trying to do it or some shit.
Triple threat was decent, wonder if this means Rhodes is taking time off now though.
Was pretty awesome that Jericho retained as well, not just handing the title to Edge like they did to Cena
Decent WM, could of been better, but ah well. Not complaining
Morrison needs to fuck off and try to find some charisma.
I love the fact that Miz is COVERED in gold, while he is jobbing in a team that consists of R-Truth.
-Rafa-, I can't believe what you said about Cena. Blind hate at its highest :laugh:
Morrison needs to fuck off and try to find some charisma.
I love the fact that Miz is COVERED in gold, while he is jobbing in a team that consists of R-Truth.
-Rafa-, I can't believe what you said about Cena. Blind hate at its highest :laugh:
Are you saying my hate for Cena is unjust? :mellow:
The Miz is awesome, I like Morrison as well TBH, but Morrison is going down hill a bit as you can see by being teamed up with R-Truth
I don't really care if you hate Cena or not, but to say his performance was shit is crazy! Both men worked hard in that match, and although it wasn't as good as their SummerSlam 08 match, but it was still a top match.
People always loved Morrison more in the team of him and Miz and said he'd be the one to make it big, but look at it now. They took Miz away and Morrison has no reaction what so ever.
I don't really care if you hate Cena or not, but to say his performance was shit is crazy! Both men worked hard in that match, and although it wasn't as good as their SummerSlam 08 match, but it was still a top match.
People always loved Morrison more in the team of him and Miz and said he'd be the one to make it big, but look at it now. They took Miz away and Morrison has no reaction what so ever.
I didn't rate the match that much at all, found it pretty boring (maybe thats because I knew WWE would get on their knees and hand the title back to Cena).
Didn't say they didn't work hard, I dont think they put on a good match though.
They took Miz away and Morrison has no reaction what so ever.
Is that you Pyro?
Which HBK/Undertaker match do we think was better? I'd say last years without a shadow of a doubt, though the pacing and storytelling was better this. Still pissed off Rey and Punk didn't get a chance to rival it :/
I like Miz more than Morrison, but Morrison is the better wrestler. Morrison clearly isn't going to cut it as a face, he's far too pretty-boy for the majority of the audience.
Is that you Pyro?
The truth is the truth. He was right about Christian also. Just no one (including myself) wanted to believe it.
I like Miz more than Morrison, but Morrison is the better wrestler. Morrison clearly isn't going to cut it as a face, he's far too pretty-boy for the majority of the audience.
Yeah, but you need to be able to talk if your a heel and Morrison can't do that to save his life.
Only wrestling ive properly watched since Wrestlemania 26, was...well, Wrestlemania 26. First time I watched it, it was late night and only really wanted to know the results, but only a few caught my eye, took my attention. Just now, I particularly wanted to watch the Cena/Batista match because I remember it being quite good, a classic, I thought when I first saw it. Watching it again, I thought both of them worked quite well to push themselves and to put on a good match, plenty of highlights.
After the match, I thought was very good of Cena and you dont see it often from others, where he posed with the hating crowd. He enjoyed it, he was laughing his arse off. But then again, I suppose he's the only worker in the entire WWE that wouldve gotten away from that. Lately, sometimes when he's booed whilst doing a promo, or whatever, he's poked fun at himself being this guy the traditional fans just dont like. For that, Ive got a little more respect for him. I still am just against his wrestling style, I dont like how his moves are predictable and how he's stuck to the same set for the last 4 years now. As an entertainer, ive never had a problem, sure his promos when he's not the victor of the week are a bit over-the-top, but I just got used to them. Wrestling fans are fickle and we can change opinions on wrestlers at any time, I think a few have gotten off the Cena bashing over the past year
Dundon's
19-04-2010, 03:09
HBK V Taker was off the charts and extra special because I hadn't watch wrestling in years now and just broke it out.
After the match, I thought was very good of Cena and you dont see it often from others, where he posed with the hating crowd. He enjoyed it, he was laughing his arse off. But then again, I suppose he's the only worker in the entire WWE that wouldve gotten away from that. Lately, sometimes when he's booed whilst doing a promo, or whatever, he's poked fun at himself being this guy the traditional fans just dont like. For that, Ive got a little more respect for him. I still am just against his wrestling style, I dont like how his moves are predictable and how he's stuck to the same set for the last 4 years now.
In fairness to him, a lot of the other workers in the WWE were the same during their career at the top.
I remember Steve Austin on the matter of not having many moves when he said something along the lines of "I only had three moves myself, and a middle finger."
And Cena going into the crowd with the haters was awesome. He gave those select few exactly what they wanted - the attention they've been craving for years.
"CENA SUX MAN!"
Yeah, fuck off.
http://i41.tinypic.com/29ema1.jpg
:lol:
There's a number of GIF's going around from that moment. I'm not trawling through the WM thread on EWB to find them though. >_>
Apparently the same guy was at Wrestlemania a few years ago in a Cena shirt. Not sure if it was ever proven though.
Apparently the same guy was at Wrestlemania a few years ago in a Cena shirt. Not sure if it was ever proven though.
It was definitely the same guy from last year. And apparently he was there at 21 as well when Cena got his first world title.
EDIT:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v624/iverson19/cenaniw.jpg
From last year.
I ordered it and stayed up all night to watch it. This is the first event, nevermind a Wrestlemania, that I've watched in a long, long time. We're talking more than a handful of years. And that only changed because Bret Hart was on the card, along with Shawn Michaels' in his final match against the Undertaker.
I am one of the biggest Bret Hart fans anyone will find but, that match (if it can even be called that) was horrible. It dragged on way too long and lacked any real variety, even for a street fight. I understand why, we all do; Bret Hart shouldn't be tackling stairs by himself, nevermind attempting any real action in the ring. And it showed. But on pure nostalgia it was good to see the Hitman at Wrestlemana. And quite enjoyable to see him doing a number on Vince McMahon with a steel chair, before taking the victory via the sharpshooter. But that was about two minutes worth at best. The rest was horrid. Every second of it prior to the steel chair shots and the sharpshooter made for painful viewing. And anyone who is not a Hitman fan won't care about Vince getting well and truly battered into next week via that steel chair, nor would they have marked out for the sharpshooter.
Bret should bow out once and for all. And hope for this to fade from memory. He got to leave on his own terms, punking out Vince McMahon on the biggest stage of them all. Let it rest.
The Undertaker and Michaels match was good. It didn't blow me away as I had expected but it was still the best match on the card. And a fitting final bow for Shawn Michaels. He truly is a legend. And I'm glad he is going while still close to the top of his game.
The only other matches I particularly liked were Batista vs Cena which was surprisingly well worked. And the opening tag team match which was sweet until the premature end. Everything else was either forgettable or memorable for all the wrong reasons.
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Look at the state of that idiot trying to rag on Cena. Get a life, mate. That is only acceptable when directed at Ric Flair!
Money in the bank was fairly decent Winger. I agree on most points, would maybe be cool to have Hitman as host on Raw for some consistancy although i think he's hitting a new angle with The Hart dynasty.
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