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Sweey
22-04-2010, 19:15
Proof - like any was needed - that McAfee is a sack o' sheet.

Computers in companies, hospitals and schools around the world slowed down or froze after an antivirus program identified a normal Windows file as a threat.

While the problem has now been identified, IT technicians are today having to deal with extra workloads to ensure their systems are protected.

Antivirus vendor McAfee Inc confirmed that yesterday a software update had caused its antivirus program for corporate customers to target a harmless file, leading PCs to repeadedly reboot themselves.

McAfee posted a replacement update and said in a statement: 'We are not aware of significant impact on consumers.'

But, judging by online postings, the number of computers affected was at least in the ten of thousands and possibly in the millions.

The technology news website CNET said that frustrated users vented their anger on Twitter and on IT related mailing lists.

Sonny Hashmi, the deputy chief information officer of the District of Columbia, called it a 'huge disruption', adding that McAfee is now on his 'blacklist', the site reported.

Further employee posts on Twitter showed that one victim of the big freeze was Intel Corp, although the firm did not make an official statement.

The computer problem forced about a third of the hospitals in Rhode Island to postpone elective surgeries and to stop treating patients without traumas in A&E.

In Kentucky, state police were told to shut down the computers in their patrol cars as technicians tried to fix the problem. The National Science Foundation headquarters in Virginia also lost computer access.

It's not uncommon for antivirus programs to misidentify legitimate files as viruses. Last month, antivirus software from Bitdefender locked up PCs running several different versions of Windows.

But Mike Rothman, president of computer security firm Securosis, said the scale of this outage was unusual, adding: 'It looks to be a train wreck.'

McAfee said the problem was confined to corporate customers, as consumer versions of its software seemed to be unaffected.

Peter Juvinall, systems administrator at Illinois State University, said that when the first computer started rebooting it quickly became evident that it was a major problem, affecting dozens of computers at the College of Business alone.

'I originally thought it was a virus,' he said. When the tech support people concluded McAfee's update was to blame, they stopped further downloads of the faulty software update and started shuttling from computer to computer to get the machines working again.

In many offices around the world, personal attention to each PC from a technician appeared to be the only way to fix the problem.

The recovery was slowed by the fact that PCs caught in a reboot cycle are not receptive to remote software updates.

Source (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1267950/McAfee-antivirus-program-fault-causes-millions-PCs-shut-down.html)

I spent four hours at work sorting out just 7 machines and had to defer another 20-odd because of the time it was taking me. Two of those 7 cannot be sorted and need to be reformatted.

Fuck off Mac cunts, your time is coming and I'll laugh at your infestation. Try getting some decent market share first though eh?

chelsea11
22-04-2010, 19:20
I'd say that fucked up a lot of business' for a few hours anyway, and potentially cost a lot.

I use McAfee, but only because it came with the laptop as a free trial. I have actually been 'protection' free for a good few months now since the trial expired but it still comes up to scan the computer every so often.

I don't really like any anti-virus software though. As much as they help you they do slow down your computer and can be quite annoying, almost as much as those random updates that restart your computer.

Sweey
22-04-2010, 19:22
Microsoft Security Essentials will do a good job, just get McAfee off your machine. Norton is equally shocking.

You're clearly a bit used to bloated anti-virus (and why wouldn't you be with the bloody monsters released these days) but MSE certainly isn't that. I hope for your sake you've got anti-spyware and anti-malware tools which you run regularly as well as perhaps an anti-rookit utility.

chelsea11
22-04-2010, 19:27
Yeah Norton was what I normally had on the PCs around my house over the years. My dad used to get them, but I guess I just assumed they were all the same and stuck with it, until the McAfee now which was purely down to being free. I have another free trial one lying in a box somewhere unopened but can't think of the name of it.

How much would that Microsoft Security Essentials be, Sweey? I may try convince my dad to go for it once his runs out, as he uses it for for his business computer as well as our house computer.

muscularmatt
22-04-2010, 19:36
Well i just use AVG, and have had no problems what so ever. It believe it helps that I promised myself I wouldn't use this computer to look at porn.

chelsea11
22-04-2010, 19:40
Well i just use AVG, and have had no problems what so ever. It believe it helps that I promised myself I wouldn't use this computer to look at porn.

There ya go, sure what else is going to give you viruses? I think if you stay away from porn and all those crap sites you would be safe enough. Obviously, large organisations would have more of a risk of viruses through general use of the internet.

Sweey
22-04-2010, 19:46
Yeah Norton was what I normally had on the PCs around my house over the years. My dad used to get them, but I guess I just assumed they were all the same and stuck with it, until the McAfee now which was purely down to being free. I have another free trial one lying in a box somewhere unopened but can't think of the name of it.

How much would that Microsoft Security Essentials be, Sweey? I may try convince my dad to go for it once his runs out, as he uses it for for his business computer as well as our house computer.

That's the thing - Microsoft Security Essentials is free. Much like the free version of AVG or the free version of Avast etc. all of which are good quality. Spybot is a free anti-spyware program, Malwarebytes Anti-Malware is a free anti-malware program and Sophos Anti-Rootkit is an anti-rootkit program. I only ever use free programs for my security and I use those last three plus MSE.

chelsea11
22-04-2010, 19:50
Ah right, cool. Cheers for that, Sweey. Repped accordingly ;)

fick
23-04-2010, 19:02
I spent four hours at work sorting out just 7 machines and had to defer another 20-odd because of the time it was taking me. Two of those 7 cannot be sorted and need to be reformatted.

We got off lightly, the only PC on site that got totally fecked was the MD's!

pategato
09-06-2010, 23:18
My McAfee subscription expired, and just installed MSE following your advice Sweey, now I need a good free firewall to replace McAfee's, what you think about ZoneAlarm man?

Sweey
09-06-2010, 23:18
ZoneAlarm is fine. Comodo is another option.

pategato
09-06-2010, 23:57
Avoid ZoneAlarm like the plague guys!!!!!!!!

It drove my PC nuts, making it restart again and again.

Think I'll stick to the windows firewall, how is it Sweey? Thanks.

Sweey
10-06-2010, 00:13
If you're in Windows 7 its alright but if you're in XP it isn't good enough.

I stopped using ZoneAlarm about three years ago when it was causing a memory leak (wouldn't release memory but kept taking some to run its processes until the company had no RAM left to use and would freeze).

pategato
10-06-2010, 00:41
I'm on vista. :erm:

Sweey
10-06-2010, 13:06
:laugh:

Its better than XP, similarish in power to 7 but on Vista I'd consider something like Comodo Personal Firewall. Unfortunately I'm a bit out of touch with firewalls as there were none compatible with Windows 7 x64 when I started using the beta.

Kevthedrummer
10-06-2010, 13:20
I wasn't going to mention it, but because you so kindly brought up us Mac "cunts" I'd like to make a case:

I would not have dreamed of being a smarmy Mac bastard. I've always hated them, the over priced shiny hardware and the expensive necessary ad-dons... But I'd completely had enough of reformatting my pc, crashes, 10 minute boot up times, 10 minute shut down times, updates every day, memory whoring anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-malware software, auto defragging, aero taking up ram... I got a huge overdue expenses payout from work which meant I could actually afford one so I took a chance on a macbook pro. My line of work is graphics, animation, video editing, and although PC's handle these jobs pretty well and I've had great results, they break without explanation. Macs just don't seem to do that, never had a single problem and I am loving it. There is no turning back for me. I wouldn't advise anyone to turn away from a PC, UNLESS you do a lot of multimedia work. People who give apple a bad name are the bloggers and the posers who simply use it for browsing and playing songs through iTunes and showing off. As a functional piece of kit, it is solid and I've never had a PC come close to the quality.

I got converted at work because I had to use one due to my PC breaking. If you'd have said to me 6 months ago that I would have bought my own Mac I would have laughed. But I have no regrets.

/rant

pategato
10-06-2010, 17:27
One last question Sweey, dont you have any conflicts with all those programs working at the same time?

Sweey
10-06-2010, 18:34
Why would you? :>

One firewall, one anti-virus. You run spyware and malware scans manually - none of the programs are doing the same job.

I wasn't going to mention it, but because you so kindly brought up us Mac "cunts" I'd like to make a case:

I would not have dreamed of being a smarmy Mac bastard. I've always hated them, the over priced shiny hardware and the expensive necessary ad-dons... But I'd completely had enough of reformatting my pc, crashes, 10 minute boot up times, 10 minute shut down times, updates every day, memory whoring anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-malware software, auto defragging, aero taking up ram... I got a huge overdue expenses payout from work which meant I could actually afford one so I took a chance on a macbook pro. My line of work is graphics, animation, video editing, and although PC's handle these jobs pretty well and I've had great results, they break without explanation. Macs just don't seem to do that, never had a single problem and I am loving it. There is no turning back for me. I wouldn't advise anyone to turn away from a PC, UNLESS you do a lot of multimedia work. People who give apple a bad name are the bloggers and the posers who simply use it for browsing and playing songs through iTunes and showing off. As a functional piece of kit, it is solid and I've never had a PC come close to the quality.

I got converted at work because I had to use one due to my PC breaking. If you'd have said to me 6 months ago that I would have bought my own Mac I would have laughed. But I have no regrets.

/rant

Ahoy :|

You are one of the few Mac users who isn't a cunt. You've identified why you use it (and do so for the right things) and due to the 'small' market share security threats aren't yet plentiful. Unfortunately, barely any Mac users behave as you do.

pategato
11-06-2010, 00:01
LOL According to spybot's scans, google chrome is basically spyware!

How often do you use these cleaning tools in your machine Sweey?

I owe you big man, my PC was a rats nest with McAfee lol.

Sweey
11-06-2010, 00:11
I too deem Google Chrome to be spyware and will never use it.

I run Spybot and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware at least once each week - the latter seems to have an updated database every day which is frankly excellent.