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Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH will deliver a completely new footballing experience later this year with the advent of PES 2011, for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360, PC-DVD, Wii, PlayStation 2 and PSP (PlayStation®Portable), which sees the publisher's long-running series undergo the most radical revamp in its history.
The PES range has long been regarded as offering incredible realism and control, but PES 2011 will reinvigorate the series with the most advanced raft of gameplay additions, control options, and animations to meet the evolution of real-life football. Central to its total freedom of play, PES 2011 introduces a power bar for each player that allows the user to determine the exact strength and placement of every pass and shot. Balls can now be spread absolutely anywhere with utter precision, with long balls into space, short passes to feet and intricate one-twos allowing the player to dictate play and control the tempo of a match.
This freedom of play is also extended via new AI routines designed to place every move and decision in the player's hands. No longer will assisted AI intervene during matches; users will now need to sense and react to threats; and passes will not automatically reach the nearest player. Instead, all-new routines facilitate complete control both of the player and their chosen actions in every respect to give the player sublime control over every movement.
"It was time for PES to transform, and PES 2011 represents the most ambitious redesign in the series' history," commented Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader for Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH. "We've continued to work closely with the fans to pinpoint what it is about football that PES didn't do. Total freedom was the priority and all-new animation a must. PES 2011 does both - indeed, they are directly linked to each other - and while the new game is recognisably PES at its heart, it is also the most radically improved version ever."
Key to PES 2011's new approach is a specially-designed control system that allows total control over every element of play. The triangulation of passes and making space using clever runs becomes paramount, and build-up play is everything. Likewise, dribbling and close control are tougher to master, and the days of making streaking runs through the centre of the park are over, as PES mirrors the real-life football.
The result is the most complete and realistic PES to date. PES 2011 delivers an evolved experience that still has the key PES ehthos of skill and realism at its core. Likewise, every other aspect of the game has been totally reworked, including:
* Total Control: PES Productions has enhanced the 360-degree passing ratio, offering unprecedented levels of control over every pass, shot, throw-in, through ball and lofted through balls. This allows users to pass the ball into space, and move their play with total freedom. Players must precisely weight their passes and second-guess the runs of their team-mates and exploit their movement. Players even can apply pressure on opponents to force them off the ball.
* Shot & Stamina Gauge: In addition to the generic power gauge, the Shot & Stamina meter details the player's exact level of fitness. Constantly sprinting will affect the player's movements and will have an adverse affect on his stats, with passes going awry and a loss of pace.
* New Defender AI: Defenders now hold their positions naturally, no longer chasing any ball that enters their area; preferring to close down the attacker and force them into a mistake.
* Animation and Player Physics: PES Productions has totally reworked every element of in-game animation. These additions will become clear before even kick-off, with the players enjoying fluid, natural movements, with more realistic acceleration and inertia than ever before. The physicality between players is also improved, which was a priority requested in PES forums. Jostling and blocking now looks stunning, while there is a larger variety of convincing tackling styles. Ambient animation also adds immensely to the in-game atmosphere, as players behave realistically when off the ball, and walk and run with a variety of individual styles.
* Speed of Play: The new level of control means that PES 2011 enjoys a more considered pace of play, which varies dependent on situations. The game will burst into life as counter-attacks come into play, but players can dictate the pace via slow build up or exploiting available space to surge forward. It is harder to make long runs from midfield, and successful play will depend on making quick passes to make room.
* Aesthetics: PES 2010 showcased the best likenesses in a football game, and PES 2011 ups the ante further. Facial animation has been enhanced, but the key advances are over 1000 all-new animations which have been recreated from the ground up using over 100 hours of motion captured footage. Every aspect of player movement has been reworked, with more organic runs, turns, throw-ins, tackles, and interaction. The way players speed up and slow down is also more natural, while replays display elements of motion blur that bring your saved goals to vivid life.
* Tactical and Strategy: The sheer number of options available in the PES series has established it as a remarkably flexible simulation, allowing players to stamp their playing style on each match. The PES Productions team has implemented an all new 'Drag and Drop' mechanism that can be used in every aspect of team management, not just substitutions or formation changes. These settings are also animated to promote better understanding of the plays that have been altered.
* Feint settings: PES has always offered a wide range of subtle skills, feints and turns, but PES 2011 allows users to map their favourite move sequences to the right stick, making them more accessible than ever before.
* Master League Online: Master League will offer an all-new challenge, as users are invited to try their hand against other managers online. PES 2011 will mark the online debut for its much-loved Master League element, with players bidding against each other for the world?s best players, and attempting to build a squad that can compete with the best against online peers all over the globe.
PES 2011 also features a myriad of smaller additions, all designed to enhance the overall experience. The game's difficulty level has been upped thanks to the greater control on offer, while new camera angles showcase the game's stunning visuals and animation. Likewise, in accordance with the strong wishes of the fan base, both referees and goal keepers have been improved in both aesthetic and AI terms, while an all-new commentary process has been implemented that offers a better and less repetitive overview of the proceedings.
The game will also see the return of Lionel Messi - arguably the greatest player in the modern game - as its cover star, and the expansion of its UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League elements, and the addition of the Copa Liberadores, South America's most influential and important club-based competition.
"This is just the tip of the iceberg for PES 2011," concluded Murphy. "We have some significant announcements still to come regarding game modes and gameplay functions. The first footage of the new game perfectly showcases the new animation and freedom elements that beat at the heart of the new game. We are confident that PES 2011 will both surprise and delight football fans. They are going to have to relearn how they play, as this is a very different game, but I am confident it will blow them all away."
PES 2011 will be released for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360, Wii, PlayStation®2, PSP (PlayStation®Portable), and PC-DVD in the Autumn.
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Kevthedrummer
04-05-2010, 12:31
huh is this the announcement? What's the source?
http://uk.games.konami-europe.com/news.do?idNews=484
sounds good ... but im not gnna be convinved until i see a gameplay video.
3 years ago I'd be excited to hear news. It's going to have to take something very special to make me even consider giving the demo a try.
Kevthedrummer
04-05-2010, 12:46
3 years ago I'd be excited to hear news. It's going to have to take something very special to make me even consider giving the demo a try.
:crymore: sad, but true.
That video makes me want to go out and buy it..................not.
sorry Konami - you have talked the talk since PES2007 and most have been dissapointed.
With FIFAs Road To World Cup being nearly as good as PES5 & 6 you really have your work cut out to top EA this year and I for one dont beleive you can do it.
as a fan of PES since ISS on the SNES - PROVE ME WRONG!!
funny thing is , the demo will have to be good this year lol . remember when only few people played the demo , cuz they had to buy the magazine. These days its everybody.
you know if they go one step in the righ direction with gameplay and anmaions this year , i will be happy.
thing is the demo is a waste of time.
they give you build 1.2 to demo with and then the final release is build 3 (for example) thus being no where near what the demo was.
id rahter the demo was the final build but it wouldnt matter if the players had no names, kits etc.
people need to know what the game play will be like upon release
Meh nothing they say will convince me anymore. Will have to wait and see.
Kevthedrummer
04-05-2010, 13:06
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here it is....
Exactly as I predicted in some other thread.
mrbasket
04-05-2010, 13:08
http://www.prorevo.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/pes2011_render.jpg
The Messi-Rendering in an increadable quality:
direct-link (2500*1200px-versioN): http://s1.directupload.net/images/100503/m2b22upc.jpg
link to the news for HD (6500*3120px-version for download):
http://www.prorevo.de/blog/2010/beeindruckendes-pes-2011-messi-render-in-hd/
It is the same "absolute revolution" since 2008, it's goin' to be the same s**t.
Kevthedrummer
04-05-2010, 13:10
we know they have the graphics, no need for them to show us beautifully rendered nonsense. This material proves NOTHING
All you need to watch is the bit between 26 seconds and 36 seconds. In that small time, you can see a huge amount of animation improvement. The way Messi controls the ball with both feet, first the right and then left. Then the layoff with his left foot, and then the best bit comes now. When Messi starts to look around him. That bit alone sold me. Just brilliant.
Dragonfly
04-05-2010, 13:29
I fear the gameplay will still be poor.
alkemy007
04-05-2010, 14:04
All you need to watch is the bit between 26 seconds and 36 seconds. In that small time, you can see a huge amount of animation improvement. The way Messi controls the ball with both feet, first the right and then left. Then the layoff with his left foot, and then the best bit comes now. When Messi starts to look around him. That bit alone sold me. Just brilliant.
Really?...that tiny bit of video sold you?...shocking. PES has been shite for the past 3-4 years. They will have to do a lot more than some silly little animation video to make me fork out money again for a sub par game. If everyone gets sold on the idea that some pathetic little animation improvement is all that is needed than we are in trouble.
truth is ....its the animations that are most annoying , the gameplay tweeks they need to sort and the referee . THEY DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE ANY GRAPHICS. so most of their time should be spent on gameplay... any word on the commentry yet ???
funny how this has been missed..... ohg yh and the sound ???
Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH will deliver a completely new footballing experience later this year with the advent of PES 2011, for PlayStation®3, Xbox 360, PC-DVD, Wii, PlayStation 2 and PSP (PlayStation®Portable), which sees the publisher's long-running series undergo the most radical revamp in its history.
Hmm. How about ditching PS2, PSP and Wii until you can get the core platforms right?
This freedom of play is also extended via new AI routines designed to place every move and decision in the player's hands. No longer will assisted AI intervene during matches; users will now need to sense and react to threats; and passes will not automatically reach the nearest player. Instead, all-new routines facilitate complete control both of the player and their chosen actions in every respect to give the player sublime control over every movement.
At least half of that was promised for PES 2010 and wasn't present.
"It was time for PES to transform, and PES 2011 represents the most ambitious redesign in the series' history," commented Jon Murphy, European PES Team Leader for Konami Digital Entertainment GmbH. "We've continued to work closely with the fans to pinpoint what it is about football that PES didn't do...
Fancy commenting just once in our feedback zone then?
Key to PES 2011's new approach is a specially-designed control system that allows total control over every element of play. The triangulation of passes and making space using clever runs becomes paramount, and build-up play is everything. Likewise, dribbling and close control are tougher to master, and the days of making streaking runs through the centre of the park are over, as PES mirrors the real-life football.
We were told those days were over after PES 5.
* Total Control: PES Productions has enhanced the 360-degree passing ratio, offering unprecedented levels of control over every pass, shot, throw-in, through ball and lofted through balls. This allows users to pass the ball into space, and move their play with total freedom. Players must precisely weight their passes and second-guess the runs of their team-mates and exploit their movement. Players even can apply pressure on opponents to force them off the ball.
Enhancing something that didn't actually exist? There was no 360-degree movement in PES 2010. Have they not worked that out yet?
* Speed of Play: The new level of control means that PES 2011 enjoys a more considered pace of play, which varies dependent on situations. The game will burst into life as counter-attacks come into play, but players can dictate the pace via slow build up or exploiting available space to surge forward. It is harder to make long runs from midfield, and successful play will depend on making quick passes to make room.
Can they fix the stupid speed when using a 16:10 resolution?
I couldn't be bothered going further but you can see where I was heading.
Kevthedrummer
04-05-2010, 14:20
Hmm. How about ditching PS2, PSP and Wii until you can get the core platforms right?
At least half of that was promised for PES 2010 and wasn't present.
Fancy commenting just once in our feedback zone then?
We were told those days were over after PES 5.
Enhancing something that didn't actually exist? There was no 360-degree movement in PES 2010. Have they not worked that out yet?
Can they fix the stupid speed when using a 16:10 resolution?
I couldn't be bothered going further but you can see where I was heading.
all very valid points.
Isn't this teaser video just a variation of last years?
all very valid points.
Isn't this teaser video just a variation of last years?
Seems like it.
If they actually deliver then fine but their inability to apologise for not producing once again with PES 2010 irritates me. Like the game or not, they blatantly lied about certain features (for example, 360-degree movement).
Hmm. How about ditching PS2, PSP and Wii until you can get the core platforms right?
At least half of that was promised for PES 2010 and wasn't present.
Fancy commenting just once in our feedback zone then?
We were told those days were over after PES 5.
Enhancing something that didn't actually exist? There was no 360-degree movement in PES 2010. Have they not worked that out yet?
Can they fix the stupid speed when using a 16:10 resolution?
I couldn't be bothered going further but you can see where I was heading.
post of the year...i'm not falling for konami's shit again
If they actually deliver then fine but their inability to apologise for not producing once again with PES 2010 irritates me. Like the game or not, they blatantly lied about certain features (for example, 360-degree movement).
Yeah as if we won't notice they just tried adding it at the very last second since fifa got all the hype when they announced 360 degree dribbling.
You where sold on 10 seconds of a cg clip AHAHAHAHA. A massive overhaul? Sound like the same things they always say to me.
wipsnadepoo
04-05-2010, 15:36
This is all new territory for me... this time last year I was waiting for news on FIFA10 (like I did every year for the past farking age), but a lot has changed in a year... PES2010 simply blew me away compared to FIFA10... there is so much to like about this game and finally I have seen the light!
But I can imagine all of you guys who have faithfully followed PES through the high's & low's over the years would be used to the KONAMI promo/spin... but it's new for me so I am frikken excited!! Anyway I am pumped - pity that there are so many months to wait...
as its been confirmed its in game by Konami. Im looking forward to it. Its a teaser, so doesn't show much but shows a lot more smoothness than PES 2010. I love how people write it off already. I suppose an understandable lack of confidence based on past iterations. But I base my confidence on the ps2 versions and the belief that they will return to form. Also the ball finally looked separate to the player, this has been missing since Pes5. Footplanting also looked good.
Also we must now wait to see what Fifa 11 has on offer, but I feel it will be close this year.
I'm very pleased with what I saw in that trailer, and no matter what, I will always buy the game. I always have, and will always continue to do so.
Also we must now wait to see what Fifa 11 has on offer, but I feel it will be close this year.
Close?? Even PEs2010 is a better game than Fifa10..
And with todays announcement and improvements , it will undoubtaley crash Fifa to the floor.. King is coming back in 2011.. People who doesnt have any clue about simulation-football will accept the PES lead this year..
I'm totally convinced by the press release and teaser.. Thank you Konami for listenning to your fans...
well we wont know for sure , until we see a gameplay video.
Die Hard Pes Fan
04-05-2010, 16:42
I'm very pleased with what I saw in that trailer, and no matter what, I will always buy the game. I always have, and will always continue to do so.
Totally the same man :) love pes always will!
For all the doubters there is still months to go there is no point in judging after 1 video (which isn't even a gameplay video!) I agree with we have been treated unfarly in the respect of game build up news but sure :)
People say they have had enough of this but yet every year they are back slating it, which tbh is a lot bullshit! IDC if I have hurt peoples feelings, but if you have had enough then don't say anything and let us real hopeful and optimistic fans get hyped up!
MysteryMan
04-05-2010, 16:55
I certainly understand everyone here that say things like "this little clip convinced you?" or "Its going to be crap again".
After so many years of decline I don't trust KONAMI anymore either , and it will take something special to convince me.
However , watching this trailer I do see alot more smoothness and real life alike movements , hence I will closely monitor the updates that KONAMI will publish , specially awaiting the gameplay video , and if that will look good then I will try the demo.
CryingGallas
04-05-2010, 17:15
All they have said is that 'this is the biggest improvement yet'. And the video is just an animated CGI video. it's not necessarily the final gameplay! I won't believe 'SHIAAAT', until an actual in game footage is released and the demo! Even that will be shockingly bad if compared to last year!
Meh :mellow:
Nothing else to add that already hasn't been said.
jgreenuk
04-05-2010, 18:04
While the long list of improvements is good, the comments reacting negatively to it is suprising. NO ONE can say that PES hasnt improved on its recent installments. 2010s better than 09, 09 was better(slightly) than 08. As long as PES keeps improving/evolving, i will keep supporting/buying the games, as will those who come on here to complain every year.
Dragonfly
04-05-2010, 18:07
I'll just advise people to take everything Konami tell us with a pinch of salt; and don't cream yourselves over their inevitably excellent looking still shots. The first true indication of the game's capabilities will be when the demo is out.
While the long list of improvements is good, the comments reacting negatively to it is suprising. NO ONE can say that PES hasnt improved on its recent installments. 2010s better than 09, 09 was better(slightly) than 08. As long as PES keeps improving/evolving, i will keep supporting/buying the games, as will those who come on here to complain every year.
Correct. 10 is better than 09. Both are better than 08. Unfortunately they all pale in comparision to 3, 4, 5 & 6...
Joey Tribbiani
04-05-2010, 18:21
Correct. 10 is better than 09. Both are better than 08. Unfortunately they all pale in comparision to 3, 4, 5 & 6...
Do they though?
At the time they were better, relatively speaking than PES 2010, but i've gone back and played PES 4 and 5 a fair few times since PES 2010 came out and they are nowhere near as good as PES 2010 is now, in my opinion of course.
Of course you'd expect that though as they've had nearly 5 years to improve it, but that's a moot point.
Dragonfly
04-05-2010, 18:22
I thought 2009 was better than 2010 and 2008 was better than both. Perhaps we look for different things in a football game. 2010 had the best modes, but 2008 was playable.
Do they though?
Yes they do. I do still own and frequent PES 6, simply because I have been underwhelmed by any of the new gen versions. OK, they are prettier & have some decent improvements, but the key is gameplay. It's here that the older versions win hands down.
Perhaps we look for different things in a football game.
And therin lies the problem. There will never be a true agreement as it's such a personal thing.
jgreenuk
04-05-2010, 18:31
Correct. 10 is better than 09. Both are better than 08. Unfortunately they all pale in comparision to 3, 4, 5 & 6...
True but its like comparing cassettes to cds. Both were ok in their day but technology moves on. if you had pes 08 in in 1998 people would be going crazy about it. Konami have been reluctent to change their ways in previous years but have recently shown an improvement and are starting to reach todays gaming standards through listening to the fans. Fifa went through a similar phase, they asked fans for help before they reached the height of fifa10.
Konami have been reluctent to change their ways in previous years but have recently shown an improvement and are starting to reach todays gaming standards through listening to the fans.
Yep, they listened. The added many things that people wanted, but for me they spent so much time on the extra's that they forgot the core. Gameplay.
As DF said though, it's all subjective. :mellow:
Die Hard Pes Fan
04-05-2010, 19:17
The first true indication of the game's capabilities will be when the demo is out.
I personally won't be judging on the demo as the demo for 2010 was shit compared to the real think impo!
Fifa went through a similar phase, they asked fans for help before they reached the height of fifa10.
......they had fans ? during this phase ? ...there me thinking people went to FIFA when pes start doing shit lol . You know what tho, they had atleast 5-6 years of this shitty phase [in fact whole of ps2], we have about 2 comming onto maybe 3[hopefully not]
BLaZiNgSPEED
05-05-2010, 02:52
Speed of Play: The new level of control means that PES 2011 enjoys a more considered pace of play, which varies dependent on situations. The game will burst into life as counter-attacks come into play, but players can dictate the pace via slow build up or exploiting available space to surge forward. It is harder to make long runs from midfield, and successful play will depend on making quick passes to make room.
Aesthetics: PES 2010 showcased the best likenesses in a football game, and PES 2011 ups the ante further. Facial animation has been enhanced, but the key advances are over 1000 all-new animations which have been recreated from the ground up using over 100 hours of motion captured footage. Every aspect of player movement has been reworked, with more organic runs, turns, throw-ins, tackles, and interaction. The way players speed up and slow down is also more natural, while replays display elements of motion blur that bring your saved goals to vivid life.
I think these points which I highlighted in bold is what's going to make PES 2011 the better game!
Of-course we haven't yet seen this with our own eyes yet.
But the speed of the players movement is crucial to bringing back what PES 5/6 had to offer.
In PES 5/6 it was much harder to run with the players like Messi, Et'o etc.
That's why PES 5/6 were the best games of the series. If only Konami didn't remove the online servers for PES 5/6 I would be playing them all day online until this very moment.
Since PES 2008 we had players running like cheetah's. So basically, what Konami have to really do is tweak players like Messi, Eto'o, Wright-Phillips, Ronaldo, Martin Petrov, etc And not make them run like Cheetah's!
This is one of the reason why in PES 2010 online we see everybody using Real Madrid, Barca, Man City, Inter...
I am always forced no matter what, to pick a big team, otherwise I can't compete with the other Cheetahs.. Nearly every player in Man City runs like a cheetah. Bellamy, Petrov, Wright-Phillips you name it.
If this is fixed in PES 2011 I think we are in for a real treat!
The goal keepers need to be reworked too! We need strong goal keepers and also defenders who are well capable of stealing the ball off Messi. The fact that the ball sticks like glue in Messi's feet is what kills the realism of the game.
I still played over 100 hours of PES 2010, but I am still not convinced by it despite loving the game at the same time.:rolleyes:
Those features that Konami just announced need to strongly be taken into account!
Lets see what Konami can deliver this time round. At least I am more hopeful in Konami than EA Sports when it comes to the PC platform.:lol:
Well, like last year I will pass my judgement when I play it and the demo won't be the final product. We need to see a final gameplay build to start passing judgements on the game.
But I hope they are right with those words they said. They look too good. I hope it will be like that because animations and player runs are terrible as of now.
Stormrider
05-05-2010, 07:37
Good press release from Konami. Will they fully deliver? Only time will tell but imo if they can deliver half of that then we'll have a great game. Looks like we'll have true 360 movement and passing this time instead of a last minute slap on and the long overdue passing power bar. An improved collision system and more tackling styles are great signs. Defenders no longer chasing like rabid dogs. A short term stamina meter so sprinting all game long is now out of the question. These are all things we've asked for and imo I don't find too much difficulty in implementing them.
Of course this is Conami we're talking about and I can understand where all the pessimism is coming from but honestly there's no need for anyone to get their panties in a bunch because there is absolutely no harm in being optimistic in this situation. At this point in time, I for one will choose to believe that Pes 2011 will be the best football game ever. If that is not the case come winter time then so be it, my life will still go on :)
True but its like comparing cassettes to cds. Both were ok in their day but technology moves on. if you had pes 08 in in 1998 people would be going crazy about it. Konami have been reluctent to change their ways in previous years but have recently shown an improvement and are starting to reach todays gaming standards through listening to the fans. Fifa went through a similar phase, they asked fans for help before they reached the height of fifa10.
Comparing a cassette to a cd is irrelevant. What really matters is the content in them. Even in this day and age I'd still much rather play a casette from a great artist then a cd from a really shitty one. The older Pes games were great cassettes while the newer ones are average to mediocre cds.
Dundon's
06-05-2010, 02:11
Well I can't say I wasn't expecting this, no in game footage again this year is the worst thing they could of done in terms of pushing peoples buttons again. They'd of being better off just waiting for something more solid rather than this pile of shite and a book of empty promises.
I'm just hoping the clowns don't mess up the Wii version.
Well I can't say I wasn't expecting this, no in game footage again this year is the worst thing they could of done in terms of pushing peoples buttons again. They'd of being better off just waiting for something more solid rather than this pile of shite and a book of empty promises.
I'm just hoping the clowns don't mess up the Wii version.
the trailers ingame, confirmed by konami. it may be hard to believe, but if you play pes 2010 in broadcast view it looks that good graphically. Also since pes 2008 konami's teasers have been in game.
i think what the trailer shows is how much smoother the animations are and the transitions between them. obviously we need some gameplay vids in wide cam.
EnglishSnake
09-05-2010, 12:49
Just compare the teaser trailer to PES2010 teaser trailer and you can see the difference already
Being new to Pes, I first got Pes 10, then after reading stuff on different forums decided to get pes6.
what always amazes me with game developers is how they manage to go backwards, o.k 10 has it`s good points over 6, but 6 has a lot that 10 doesn``t.
some of the things that annoy me with 10 and 6 and need sorting:
REF`S
pes10 not enough fouls/ almost non existent penalties( on ave EPL teams get 4 a season.
pes6 to many red cards
PES10 players running out when going down the line happens far to often.
GK making no attempt to make a save
no handball
probably a lot more
lets hope most if not all the problems are sorted in 2011 and not just pretty graphics.
byondthought
11-05-2010, 21:26
:w00t:w00t:w00t
Guess who's back, back again!!
LOL, Déjà vu like a mother fucker!!!
I just love all the old fifa boys saying how they now love PES!!!!
I guess I really did know what i was talking about LOOOL...
:w00t:w00t:w00t
Sabatasso
12-05-2010, 23:24
3 years ago I'd be excited to hear news. It's going to have to take something very special to make me even consider giving the demo a try.
If you're not interested in trying the demo regardless, then you don't deserve to get a good game.
byondthought
13-05-2010, 10:46
I got a friend in japan who has played a really early code, he said u don't even need a control pad, u just use ur mind!!!!
Sabatasso
13-05-2010, 11:30
I got a friend in japan who has played a really early code, he said u don't even need a control pad, u just use ur mind!!!!
That's a lie, because I had to use my dick as a joystick!
I got a friend in japan who has played a really early code, he said u don't even need a control pad, u just use ur mind!!!!
That's a lie, because I had to use my dick as a joystick!
:faceplm:
Typical of Konami to feed us with Bull.
The teaser video was just that .....a video. That is no in game crap. If it was, where are the other players? Even the training ground has players.
Just look how silent they will be for the next few months. All we will hear is just rumours from the brain dead, well paid columnists such as Adam of WENB telling us how "blown away" he is with PES 2011. I almost believed him but just realized he says the same thing every freakin year.
Another "journalist" has reported how awesome the game is....best thing since slice bread i presume. I almost believed him too until i read further that he dined with the fish (Seabass) that very night. I wonder if he was "blown" too. :blush:
AgentZero
14-05-2010, 06:38
im coming into this completely disregarding their attempt with PES2010
uA - 1905
14-05-2010, 12:17
I'm more inclined to believe that they've hired a writer to write that load of bollocks rather than hire the necessary developers to ensure that the game isn't the same shit that it's been for the past 5 years
I'm more inclined to believe that they've hired a writer to write that load of bollocks rather than hire the necessary developers to ensure that the game isn't the same shit that it's been for the past 5 years
5 years is a bit off. PES 6 (on the PS2) was great. I'm praying this is the year things get back on track. I'm still not fully convinced by FIFA and I don't think it will ever have the immersion or individuality of PES of old.
And if you're listening Konami, please let us move teams in the ML. After all these years it still isn't possible. Once I've built one team and dominated for a few seasons, I want do it again with another lowly team. Oh, and cut down on the regens. I don't mind new players popping up, but not modern day players a season or two after retirement.
CryingGallas
15-05-2010, 00:54
Need the ingame footage!! I won't even believe what the mags say!
Mullet Taylor
15-05-2010, 01:07
think konami will strike first and release their product before the new fifa ?
Stormrider
15-05-2010, 02:39
Seems like that's the approach they're taking this year. Hopefully they won't sacrifice quality for a speedy release.
byrnie05
15-05-2010, 22:19
Typical of Konami to feed us with Bull.
The teaser video was just that .....a video. That is no in game crap. If it was, where are the other players? Even the training ground has players.
With a developer's debug console, they can use the game engine in ways that the public can't. It can quite easily be modified to show a video like this yet still use the game engine.
All you need to watch is the bit between 26 seconds and 36 seconds. In that small time, you can see a huge amount of animation improvement. The way Messi controls the ball with both feet, first the right and then left. Then the layoff with his left foot, and then the best bit comes now. When Messi starts to look around him. That bit alone sold me. Just brilliant.
its a piece of promotion, there is absolutley nothing guarnteeing such things will actually occur in the game.
This year im going to wait till i play the game, the last few years all those on the front lines posting vids ahve stated how it feels and looks different, despite the videos they post looking the same as last year. I'm taking nobodys but my own impression after playing this year, so no PES excitement for me till its release. Sick of the shite konami produce and the excuses that start to dominate the forum explaining why the demo's are shit and that the final game wont be, or why the demo's good when it clearly isnt.
Torres9YNWA
18-05-2010, 00:47
LMAO at those people who say PES 6 is better than PES 2010! I own both games and PES 2010 blows it out of the water. PES 2010 IS one of the best PES games ever and PES 2011 looks 10x as good with fluent movement and even more realism. This game will mark the death of Fifa whereas PES 2010 was just the revival of the king. I can tell just by looking at that trailer that this game will be HUGE.
The video is more than likely a CGI rendering. PES2011 is being developed by a different team isn't it? The chances of a new team developing a new product getting it right first time are low.
The chances of a new team developing a new product getting it right first time are low.
Seabass is still in charge.
its a piece of promotion, there is absolutley nothing guarnteeing such things will actually occur in the game.
The video is more than likely a CGI rendering. PES2011 is being developed by a different team isn't it?
What are you talking about?
As bad as PES has been these recent years, Konami have NEVER released a PES teaser or a full trailer that isn't a representation of the final product. Never. Why would they suddenly change that now?
Don't you all love these creepy WENB types hyping Konami and their crappy site all over the PES community - give it up and go back to licking Adam and Suff's buttholes
think konami will strike first and release their product before the new fifa ?
I doubt it. If PES2011 really is 'the one' then, for me, the smart thing to do would be allowing FIFA11 to be the undercard to the main event, so to speak.
Don't you all love these creepy WENB types hyping Konami and their crappy site all over the PES community - give it up and go back to licking Adam and Suff's buttholes
Wow... just wow.
Tech_Skill
23-05-2010, 19:24
from evo web
Originally Posted by TheAutumnLeaves View Post
new teams PES 2011: information confirmed: CRUZ AZUL, Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Bayern Munich, Werder Bremen, SERIE B, LECH POZNAN, LEGIA WARSAW , teams from the Copa Libertadores, APOEL Nicosia, GREEK PREMIER LEAGUE
from evo web
Originally Posted by TheAutumnLeaves View Post
new teams PES 2011: information confirmed: CRUZ AZUL, Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Bayern Munich, Werder Bremen, SERIE B, LECH POZNAN, LEGIA WARSAW , teams from the Copa Libertadores, APOEL Nicosia, GREEK PREMIER LEAGUE
Highly doubt that. I will believe it when i see it.
Tech_Skill
23-05-2010, 19:53
Highly doubt that. I will believe it when i see it.
for sure, just making you lot aware
thanks tech.... lol
wait till the demo and real game people....
iamcanadianeh
28-05-2010, 21:14
With a developer's debug console, they can use the game engine in ways that the public can't. It can quite easily be modified to show a video like this yet still use the game engine.
Of course they can. Easy.
I think what's funny is that those who still doubt the video is in-game are going to be the ones who have to:
A.) Eat their words when they see more gameplay footage.
and,
B.) Admit that the movement in the game blows their socks off, because they didn't even believe it was real when they saw the teaser!
:lol:
I think what's funny is that those who still doubt the video is in-game are going to be the ones who have to:
A.) Eat their words when they see more gameplay footage.
and,
B.) Admit that the movement in the game blows their socks off, because they didn't even believe it was real when they saw the teaser!
:lol:
Hmmm. Perhaps not. I've seen the footage & yes it looks impressive, but so did the video I saw for The Bigs 2 (a baseball title for those who haven't seen it). Point being, the game itself was frustrating, difficult to stamp your individuality on and eventually tiresome.
Playable demo will be the only convincing factor this year. I don't doubt Konami are capable of pulling it out of the bag this year... but I certainly won't be won over by a mere video.
from Anderson of Evo-Web They are from the twitter of a Mexican editor of a magazine
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57296&page=55
Join Date: May 2007
Default Re: PES 2011 Discussion thread
"So, the translation, for those still interested on a proper one:
Quote:
- New moves, on the defense, a new way to deal with tactics, new trick system (this we already know).
- Master League Online, Copa dos Libertadores, a new editing system with a surprise they didn't want to tell us (we also know already).
- It's much more harder, because there's no AI assistance, and about 15/20 players have a "new" ability called "Speed Star".
Q: Did you liked the game?
A: I did, because i'm a veteran, but without A.I assistance, newbies/casual gamers will suffer, because it's much harder.
Q: But, I'm going to ask you something. Are the changes radical? Is it much better than all the next gen and PS2 games?
A: No, not yet, we are still waiting for that PES. Sorry.
Q: Are you saying it isn't good?
A: No no, I'm not saying it isn't good, it's just that it won't be the "different" PES we are waiting for.
Q: Are the animations good at least? What about response times?
A: Animations look good, and the time of response is weird at first, because you have no AI help, but you'll get used to it (I think he is talking about something different than response times...). For the veterans it will be nice to get back to the roots, but newbies will suffer at the beggining.
Q: What the about the goalkeepers and ball and players physics?
A: Goalkeepers were bad, but what we have seen was at 70% so I expect them to improve, because they were too bad. Ball physic is similiar to PES 2010 and players physics was improved, especially on body-on-body collisions.
Q: Is the game similiar to last FIFA editions? Or nothing like it.
A: Well the new trick system is a bit like FIFA's one, but apart from that, no they aren't alike.
Questions are by Jjoseca.
So, like I said, nothing conclusive. We actually made more questions but the guy didn't answered. Let's see what we read on next weeks actual reports. "
Back to the roots, harder to play, good animations and collision system pleases me. However poor goal keepers is very worrying. The 3 main things that needed to be fixed were animations, response times and GK's. Sort it out Konami.
iamcanadianeh
31-05-2010, 16:43
Hmmm. Perhaps not. I've seen the footage & yes it looks impressive, but so did the video I saw for The Bigs 2 (a baseball title for those who haven't seen it). Point being, the game itself was frustrating, difficult to stamp your individuality on and eventually tiresome.
Playable demo will be the only convincing factor this year. I don't doubt Konami are capable of pulling it out of the bag this year... but I certainly won't be won over by a mere video.
Ok, but I'm not saying anything about being won over by the gameplay or anything, just animations.
AgentZero
11-06-2010, 03:37
The problems with the old pes was just the players movement sensitivity i never had issues with the gameplay. Cant wait for this one
from Anderson of Evo-Web They are from the twitter of a Mexican editor of a magazine
http://forums.evo-web.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57296&page=55
Join Date: May 2007
Default Re: PES 2011 Discussion thread
"So, the translation, for those still interested on a proper one:
Quote:
- New moves, on the defense, a new way to deal with tactics, new trick system (this we already know).
- Master League Online, Copa dos Libertadores, a new editing system with a surprise they didn't want to tell us (we also know already).
- It's much more harder, because there's no AI assistance, and about 15/20 players have a "new" ability called "Speed Star".
Q: Did you liked the game?
A: I did, because i'm a veteran, but without A.I assistance, newbies/casual gamers will suffer, because it's much harder.
Q: But, I'm going to ask you something. Are the changes radical? Is it much better than all the next gen and PS2 games?
A: No, not yet, we are still waiting for that PES. Sorry.
Q: Are you saying it isn't good?
A: No no, I'm not saying it isn't good, it's just that it won't be the "different" PES we are waiting for.
Q: Are the animations good at least? What about response times?
A: Animations look good, and the time of response is weird at first, because you have no AI help, but you'll get used to it (I think he is talking about something different than response times...). For the veterans it will be nice to get back to the roots, but newbies will suffer at the beggining.
Q: What the about the goalkeepers and ball and players physics?
A: Goalkeepers were bad, but what we have seen was at 70% so I expect them to improve, because they were too bad. Ball physic is similiar to PES 2010 and players physics was improved, especially on body-on-body collisions.
Q: Is the game similiar to last FIFA editions? Or nothing like it.
A: Well the new trick system is a bit like FIFA's one, but apart from that, no they aren't alike.
Questions are by Jjoseca.
So, like I said, nothing conclusive. We actually made more questions but the guy didn't answered. Let's see what we read on next weeks actual reports. "
Back to the roots, harder to play, good animations and collision system pleases me. However poor goal keepers is very worrying. The 3 main things that needed to be fixed were animations, response times and GK's. Sort it out Konami.
Well, I think the bit that says:
"I did, because i'm a veteran, but without A.I assistance, newbies/casual gamers will suffer, because it's much harder"
Is a very, very broad statement... how do you not have AI assistance when you are in control over the entire team? to say that there is no AI assistance is just a lie, in my opinion.
And also, when he was asked: Are the changes radical? Is it much better than all the next gen and PS2 games?
He responded by saying: "No, not yet, we are still waiting for that PES. Sorry."
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AI assistance will always be necessary, taking the same concept and making it less AI-assisted will not make the game any better: it would still revolve around the same old concept.
I think PES 2011 will be a good game, the best PES to date; but it won't bring anything new to the table.
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