View Full Version : best rapper of all time: you decide
it is up to you to pick the best rapper of all time and it can also be present of coarse so take your pick?
i was gonna do a thread fo this one but i forget so leave it cos i am makin another one so answer on da other one.
OK, but the answer is 2 pac
the answer is...
Andre3000 or as I knew of him growing up, just dre
some proofs-
'Humble Mumble' feat. Eryka Badu from the album 'Stankonia'
Too Democratic, Republic fuck it
We chicken nugget, we dip in the sauce like mop and bucket
Blue-collar scholars, who'll take your dollar and wipe my ass wit it
You livin for the lotto never hit it
I met a critic, I made her shit her drawers
She said she thought hip-hop was only guns and alcohol
I said "Oh hell naw!" But yet it's that too
You can't discrimi-hate cause you done read a book or two
What if I looked at you in a microscope, saw all the dirty organisms
living in your closet would I stop and would I pause it? Whoo!
To put that bitch in slower motion, got the potion and the antidote
And a quote for collision the decision.. is,
do you want to live or wanna exist?
The game changes everyday so obsolete is the fist and marches
Speeches only reaches those who already know about it
This is how we go about it
the whole verse has the usual clever metaphors and imagery typical of dre - and not to mention rhythmically superior - i especially like dre's reference to the state of civil rights in present day america - things are changing for the better, so "obsolete is" the need for "the fist and marches/Speeches only reaches those who already know about it/This is how we go about it"
and one more if you don't mind:
Verse from 'Aquemini' from the album 'Aquemini'
My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
original skin many men comprehend
I extend myself so you go out & tell a friend
Sin all depends on what you believing in
Faith is what you make it that's the hardest shit since MC Ren
Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now & then
It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends
i won't go into any lyrical analysis as this is a pretty abstract verse and everyone is welcome to their own interpretations but if you listen to this verse you will notice he rhymes each line across multiple points using the same phonetic syllable(twin, Alien, MC Ren etc) for the entire verse!
Dre also has an intangible - a unique southern drawl with an almost sing-song quality to it
Honorable mention - anything from the albums Southernplayisticadillacmusak, ATLiens, the track 'Tough Guy'(feat UGK) from the motion picture soundtrack Shaft
if you appreciate Dre as much as i do, or want to, check out the first 3 albums -Southernplayisticadillacmusak, ATLiens, and Aquemini
many that jock him nowadays haven't even heard the first two albums.. but that's where its all at imo
Henry_IS_God
26-03-2004, 16:37
eminem.... " cuz these chicks dow even know the name of 'my band' "
the answer is Rakim, hes been doing this for 20 years and is so many rappers idols, not one person has a bad word to say for him and he was the first artist to come out with all of the complex lyrics that we see soo much of nowadays
I think Rakim is so shite....
Dre is good, but I like Kanye West's lyrics but his rapping aint upto scratch
Yeah ur right, he's album "college Drop out" is very good tho
Kayne West's album has gotta be one of the outstanding albums of the year so far, his lyrics are pretty good but his rapping isnt outstanding, but u still gotta respect a man who does producing and rapping like that... however the best rapper/producer has gotta be without doubt DJ Quik
Gizmondo
27-03-2004, 22:17
Not a big fan of rap but I guess I'd pick M&M because he has some funny songs.
Travis Bickle
27-03-2004, 22:42
John Barnes.
lol, gotta agree with that
"You've got to hold and give
But do it at the right time
You can be slow or fast
But you must get to the line
They'll always hit you and hurt you
Defend and attack
Theres only one way to beat them
Get round the back
Catch me if you can
Cos' I'm the England man
And what you're looking at
Is the master plan
We ain't no hooligans
This ain't a football song
Three lions on my chest
I know we can't go wrong"
Classic
Celtic420
28-03-2004, 07:27
tough question, I don't think there is one best rapper. no single rapper has brought the consistency or life-span to lay claim to that title. so I'll break it down:
Lyricist: B.I.G., Nas, Talib Qweli
Cadence: Eminem, Dre, 2pac
Style: Jay Z, Jadakiss, lauryn Hill
Depth: Aesop Rock, Del tha funkee Homosapien
Kayne West put out a good album, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned here. And I'd pick El-p over Quick as best MC/producer
tough question, I don't think there is one best rapper. no single rapper has brought the consistency or life-span to lay claim to that title. so I'll break it down:
Lyricist: B.I.G., Nas, Talib Qweli
Cadence: Eminem, Dre, 2pac
Style: Jay Z, Jadakiss, lauryn Hill
Depth: Aesop Rock, Del tha funkee Homosapien
Kayne West put out a good album, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned here. And I'd pick El-p over Quick as best MC/producerid say Rakim, Ras Kass & Canibus shud be mentioned in best lyricists, n i wudnt consider Lauren Hill a rapper
Celtic420
28-03-2004, 08:34
id say Rakim, Ras Kass & Canibus shud be mentioned in best lyricists, n i wudnt consider Lauren Hill a rapper
L-boogie is the sickest female MC in history. you probably haven't heard her get down. She is THE talent in the Fugees, Wyclef and Pras should thank her for carrying them. check her out on "how many mics", "zealots", "the score", basically anytime she flows on that album she comes xtra hard.
but i feel you on the lyricysts, there are alot of people close to the top, it is open to interpretation.
L-boogie is the sickest female MC in history. you probably haven't heard her get down. She is THE talent in the Fugees, Wyclef and Pras should thank her for carrying them. check her out on "how many mics", "zealots", "the score", basically anytime she flows on that album she comes xtra hard.
but i feel you on the lyricysts, there are alot of people close to the top, it is open to interpretation.personally id say Lady Of Rage is the best female MC, shes one of the few who i can actually tolerate as most female rappers jus rap about bullshit, but she spits the real raw lyrics
yr970255
30-03-2004, 04:48
Biggy Smalls
tottiiii
30-03-2004, 13:14
hard to just pick one....my favorites are jay big nas big daddy kane kool g rap, ras kass ghostface and a lot more...
no doubt, Pac and biggie, always on top, and everybody wana b pac and biggie
plus, Pac is a Poet. and everybody wana piece of him. he was a big reason hiphop boosted 2 another level.
Billy Minof
24-06-2004, 10:37
Vanilla Ice, the greatest ever.
Ogopa Djz
24-06-2004, 17:33
Vanilla Ice, the greatest ever.
Please dont go Brooklyn (NY) with him as your fav rapper. Cause you will get shot.. alot of times.
Ogopa Djz
24-06-2004, 17:36
tough question, I don't think there is one best rapper. no single rapper has brought the consistency or life-span to lay claim to that title. so I'll break it down:
Lyricist: B.I.G., Nas, Talib Qweli
Cadence: Eminem, Dre, 2pac
Style: Jay Z, Jadakiss, lauryn Hill
Depth: Aesop Rock, Del tha funkee Homosapien
Kayne West put out a good album, but doesn't deserve to be mentioned here. And I'd pick El-p over Quick as best MC/producer
Good mang.Seeing as Most Rappers have differebt styles you shoucl just categorize dem.
Illest Rhymes-jay-z,rakim,nas
Illest stories-Mos def
Trueness-Jay-z,nas
Illest one liners and jus a sik flow- Biggie
Hardcore(lived his ryhmes)-Tupac
Flipper the Priest
24-06-2004, 18:38
Talib Kweli, Andre 3000 and Leeroy Kesiah of Saian Supa Crew.
I think Saian Supa Crew are exactly that. I don't understand a drop of French but still enjoy them as they're musically and cadentially brilliant.
I've read some of thei lyrics translated and they're not half bad too.
Less of the 'illest' and 'sickest' shit. They exude pretentiousness. Worse than swearing.
Ogopa Djz
24-06-2004, 19:04
Talib Kweli, Andre 3000 and Leeroy Kesiah of Saian Supa Crew.
I think Saian Supa Crew are exactly that. I don't understand a drop of French but still enjoy them as they're musically and cadentially brilliant.
I've read some of thei lyrics translated and they're not half bad too.
Less of the 'illest' and 'sickest' shit. They exude pretentiousness. Worse than swearing.
Aight chief. i gotta roll less of dat when i am putting my thoughts ere.
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without question ''The Notorious B.I.G'' is the greatest rapper ever
L-boogie is the sickest female MC in history. you probably haven't heard her get down. She is THE talent in the Fugees, Wyclef and Pras should thank her for carrying them. check her out on "how many mics", "zealots", "the score", basically anytime she flows on that album she comes xtra hard.
I agree Lauryn Hill is incredible, best Female rapper so far. You also forgot 'Lost Ones' on ''The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill'' a classic.
Billy Minof
25-06-2004, 10:05
Please dont go Brooklyn (NY) with him as your fav rapper. Cause you will get shot.. alot of times.
Vanilla ice is a Gangster, no-one would get smart with him and his homies.
I agree Lauryn Hill is incredible, best Female rapper so far. You also forgot 'Lost Ones' on ''The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill'' a classic.id rather not listen to a racist thankyou
Billy Minof
25-06-2004, 12:08
id rather not listen to a racist thankyou
Why, where is the racism.
Why, where is the racism.erm the fact that she said shed rather have all her children die, and shes got about 10 than know oone white person copped her album.. thats why
Billy Minof
25-06-2004, 12:35
erm the fact that she said shed rather have all her children die, and shes got about 10 than know oone white person copped her album.. thats why
Sorry don't know what you are on about, forget about it. :confused:
well first i love lauryn hillz muziq.......haz nebody heard of bahamadia heard her album "kollage" bk in the 90'z real good, 1 of the best female rapperz i've heard
Billy Minof
25-06-2004, 13:52
well first i love lauryn hillz muziq.......haz nebody heard of bahamedia college heard her album bk in the 90'z real good, 1 of the best female rapperz i've heard
Never heard of Bahamedia College, what does she rap about.
I love rage against the machine great band.
she'z like a neo soul rapper...my bro has it (well had it) if he still got it i'll show ya some tunez!
erm the fact that she said shed rather have all her children die, and shes got about 10 than know oone white person copped her album.. thats why
According to This (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lauryn.htm) site those rumours are false
According to This (http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lauryn.htm) site those rumours are false
Thank you Gary G. Now Jonny2J go and listen to ''The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill'' and crown her best Female rapper ever.
Snoop Doggy Dogg is the greatest rapper ever. He has the style, the delivery, the lyrics, he's been in porn, he has his own clothing brand, he's been in movies and he is still alive.
"Now some of these fools are so deceptive,
usin my styles like a contraceptive.
I hope you get burnt, seen's you haven't learnt,
it's the nick-nack-paddywhack, I still got the biggest sack."
Best female is Lauryn Hill. Miseducation is one of the best albums ever, bar none. I'm going upstaris to put it on right now. After Doggystyle. YEEEEEEAAAAAH. This is DJ EEEEEEEZ-Dick. 187.4 FM on your dial, you are listening to W-Balls. "Every body hears the shit,,,, on W-Balls, W-Balls, W-Balls.......
Dre_dawg
27-06-2004, 14:22
best rapper of all time has gotta be Nas.
i dont care wot anyone else says, just listen to sum of his classics, the whole of illmatic lol, Ether, One Mic......
not sayin that most of tha other ones u named are crap, he's just better, and yes, im saying that he's better than 2pac and Biggie. Biggie woz never a GREAT artist, but he made quite a few good tunes, and 2pac, was more of a poet, than a rapper (may not make sense,lol) but i feel that Nas is a better rapper, as he talks about wot sum people go thru generally, whereas 2pac woz focussing on himself
Snoop Doggy Dogg is the greatest rapper ever. He has the style, the delivery, the lyrics, he's been in porn, he has his own clothing brand, he's been in movies and he is still alive.
"Now some of these fools are so deceptive,
usin my styles like a contraceptive.
I hope you get burnt, seen's you haven't learnt,
it's the nick-nack-paddywhack, I still got the biggest sack."
I agree Snoop was the best in the West excluding 2pac but....Lyrically Biggie flaws him.
but i feel that Nas is a better rapper, as he talks about wot sum people go thru generally, whereas 2pac woz focussing on himself
My goodness you are incredibly incorrect.
2pac talked more about other people than i have ever heard a music artist do.
Scarface
28-06-2004, 12:57
2Pac, Biggie and 50 Cent r my favourite rappers..if i had 2 choose between the 3 of them id edge towards 2Pac
Ogopa Djz
28-06-2004, 16:06
best rapper of all time has gotta be Nas.
i dont care wot anyone else says, just listen to sum of his classics, the whole of illmatic lol, Ether, One Mic......
not sayin that most of tha other ones u named are crap, he's just better, and yes, im saying that he's better than 2pac and Biggie. Biggie woz never a GREAT artist, but he made quite a few good tunes, and 2pac, was more of a poet, than a rapper (may not make sense,lol) but i feel that Nas is a better rapper, as he talks about wot sum people go thru generally, whereas 2pac woz focussing on himself
Nas is more of a stroyteller like in his song rewind where he goes back on the days events yeah.
Nas is more of a stroyteller like in his song rewind where he goes back on the days events yeah.
yeah 'Rewind' is a classic and 'One Mic' also. The only downfall is you only see glimpses of Nas at his best on a couple of songs on his albums after 'Illmatic'.
digiviceking
29-06-2004, 08:54
kanie west... is that how u spell his name?? and mike shinoda of coz!!
Snoop Doggy Dogg is the greatest rapper ever. He has the style, the delivery, the lyrics, he's been in porn, he has his own clothing brand, he's been in movies and he is still alive.
"Now some of these fools are so deceptive,
usin my styles like a contraceptive.
I hope you get burnt, seen's you haven't learnt,
it's the nick-nack-paddywhack, I still got the biggest sack."Doggystyle is without doubt one of the top 3 rap albums of all time, but i dunno how u can say because Snoop has a clothing line that makes him the best rapper :confused: so does P.Diddy, after Doggystyle Snoop fell off hard... he wasnt the same up and coming raw, hungry rapper as on Doggystyle and the Chronic, and plus the major factor was he let his ego become too big as he didnt have The DOC in his ear, telling him if this was right, if that was right, Snoop latest albums have all been mediocore at best, hes trying to much to please the eastcoast,, when if ur westcoast that should be ur style, and Da Game Is To Be Sold Not Told is probz the worst rap album i own... and a quick question?? what snoop lyrics are u talking about... the 4 shizzle bizzle he bit off the bay area cats like E-40?? or the fact that he spells his name in about every song he has nowadays.... i would really like to know
best rapper of all time has gotta be Nas.
i dont care wot anyone else says, just listen to sum of his classics, the whole of illmatic lol, Ether, One Mic......
not sayin that most of tha other ones u named are crap, he's just better, and yes, im saying that he's better than 2pac and Biggie. Biggie woz never a GREAT artist, but he made quite a few good tunes, and 2pac, was more of a poet, than a rapper (may not make sense,lol) but i feel that Nas is a better rapper, as he talks about wot sum people go thru generally, whereas 2pac woz focussing on himselfrighthyo... Pac was way better than Nas, Pac was a hell of alot more consistent i mean after Illmatic it took Nas about 6 or 7 years to come up with a decent album again... wereas Pac's was just continuos improvement... 2Pacalypse Now> Strictly 4 My Niggaz> Thug Life> Me Against The World> All Eyez On Me> Makaveli.. and Nas' flow fell off badly after Illmatic... and were are u getting Pac jus rapped about himself??.. i mean take a look at... Brenda's Got A Baby, Baby Don't Cry, Keep Ya Head Up, Teardrops & Closed Caskets, The Good Die Young, You Can Be Touched.... Pac has to be the GOAT of all time jus due to his sheer versatility, where one moment he was praising women then calling them bitches on songs like Why U Turn On Me, he was praising the east coast on shit like Old School then dissing the fuck outta them on several songs :D plus he was also very knowledgable on politics, u cud learn alot of things just by picking up a 2Pac album
Ogopa Djz
29-06-2004, 18:04
yeah 'Rewind' is a classic and 'One Mic' also. The only downfall is you only see glimpses of Nas at his best on a couple of songs on his albums after 'Illmatic'.
True. I love the guys music but sometimes he seems to lose interest like on stillmatic i only really liked ,poison,Your da man(as you can tell from my sig),rewind, the brigde, One mic. which is bad considering i liked majority of the songs on illmatic.
True. I love the guys music but sometimes he seems to lose interest like on stillmatic i only really liked ,poison,Your da man(as you can tell from my sig),rewind, the brigde, One mic. which is bad considering i liked majority of the songs on illmatic.i wudnt say its a bad thing as Illmatic is without doubt a masterpiece and ranks along side all the best eastcoast material such as Paid In Full & Ready 2 Die... and Amerikkkaz Most Wanted if u consider it east coast... as Cube had switched coasts at the time
on the topic of switching coasts, do you think the game is west coast or east coast.
on the topic of switching coasts, do you think the game is west coast or east coast.hes confused is what he is lol he ass kisses NWA all day long, but at the same time is biting east coast stylez
Nas's new upcoming album 'Street Disciple' is gaining anticipation his single ''Thief's Theme (http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/Nas/Videos/Nas_TheifsThemeVidFull.ram)'' just reminds me of the old Nas from Illmatic days
Stat Trice
01-07-2004, 08:33
Biggie
Nas
Talib Kweli
Pharoahe Monch
SySTeM_Id
01-07-2004, 10:35
2pac, dawg. The legend started it all
2pac, dawg. The legend started it allno he didnt, DJ Kool Herc started hip-hop, buy fucking about with the break beats... and it was Rakim who started all the complex lyric shit
Ogopa Djz
01-07-2004, 14:58
Nas's new upcoming album 'Street Disciple' is gaining anticipation his single ''Thief's Theme (http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/Nas/Videos/Nas_TheifsThemeVidFull.ram)'' just reminds me of the old Nas from Illmatic days
Bro Now dis is the real nas. I am not loving the Gold teeth though.
no he didnt, DJ Kool Herc started hip-hop, buy fucking about with the break beats... and it was Rakim who started all the complex lyric shit
yep, Rakim started complex lyrics and maybe the reason why people like Nas , 2pac and Notorious B.I.G even started rapping, listen to Rakim & Eric B's '' I Ain't No Joke'' probably the song that changed the style of rapping.
yep, Rakim started complex lyrics and maybe the reason why people like Nas , 2pac and Notorious B.I.G even started rapping, listen to Rakim & Eric B's '' I Ain't No Joke'' probably the song that changed the style of rapping.I Aint No Joke/ I Used To Let The Mike Smoke/ Now I Slam It When I'm Done And ;) Make Sure It's Broke
I Aint No Joke/ I Used To Let The Mike Smoke/ Now I Slam It When I'm Done And ;) Make Sure It's Broke
that will stick to my mind forever mate!
that will stick to my mind forever mate!i just love that beat too, the trumpet is quality man!! :D
i just love that beat too, the trumpet is quality man!! :D
yep everything about the song is just quality a masterpiece if you ask me.
''Even if it's jazz or the quiet storm/
I hook a beat up convert it into hip-hop form/
Write a rhyme in graffitti in, every show you see me in/
Deep concentration, cuz I'm no comedian/''
my oh my this man was a genius back in the day.
yep everything about the song is just quality a masterpiece if you ask me.
''Even if it's jazz or the quiet storm/
I hook a beat up convert it into hip-hop form/
Write a rhyme in graffitti in, every show you see me in/
Deep concentration, cuz I'm no comedian/''
my oh my this man was a genius back in the day.i cant believe he wrote most of that album when he was 16 :eek: especially as no one had ever done that concept before, believe me he still is a genius man he just got fucked over by Dre & Jimmy Iovine for pop artists like 50 Cent
Bro Now dis is the real nas. I am not loving the Gold teeth though.
hes copying his fiance with the gold teeth
Ogopa Djz
07-07-2004, 19:36
hes copying his fiance with the gold teeth
May they live long and have kids with gold teeth. You know i wonder what their gonna use in the future when gold gets old?
Doggystyle is without doubt one of the top 3 rap albums of all time, but i dunno how u can say because Snoop has a clothing line that makes him the best rapper :confused: so does P.Diddy, after Doggystyle Snoop fell off hard... he wasnt the same up and coming raw, hungry rapper as on Doggystyle and the Chronic, and plus the major factor was he let his ego become too big as he didnt have The DOC in his ear, telling him if this was right, if that was right, Snoop latest albums have all been mediocore at best, hes trying to much to please the eastcoast,, when if ur westcoast that should be ur style, and Da Game Is To Be Sold Not Told is probz the worst rap album i own... and a quick question?? what snoop lyrics are u talking about... the 4 shizzle bizzle he bit off the bay area cats like E-40?? or the fact that he spells his name in about every song he has nowadays.... i would really like to know
I must say you've got me there. My uneducated post has got me a roasting. I grew up the early half of my teens listening to NWA, Dre, Snoop, 2pac, Ice Cube, Ice T, Wu Tang, Busta Rhymes, Nas and more. And I still love Hip Hop/Rap, but dont keep as up to date as I should.
I picked Snoop because of the memories. I grew up singing along to his Doggystyle album with all my mates and just loving his vibe (I can sing it all off heart). I picked Snoop as who I think is my favourite rapper. It does say 'you decide' in the thread opener. So although I am open to debate, I am sticking to my opinion.
I know there are many better rappers, but I just like Snoop. Doggy Fizzle Televizzle, Up in smoke tour, etc etc, I just think he's funny. A good entertainer.
I'll revise my decision and say who I actually think is the best rapper pound for pound, probably Jay-Z. Lyrically speaking. :)
simmsm88
11-07-2004, 18:47
Jay-z lyrically? Nah, Nas, Rakim, Wu-tang, A Tribe Called Quest, a few others are better than him pound for pound.
I guess it all depends on what your taste is though.
Jay-z lyrically? Nah, Nas, Rakim, Wu-tang, A Tribe Called Quest, a few others are better than him pound for pound.
I guess it all depends on what your taste is though.
Jay-Z is as good as/better than any of those, and I'm not a fan of his. Big into Wu Tang though. Method Man is class.
I gave my opinion of my best rapper, Snoop Dogg, but got slated, so I said Jay-Z, cos he is actually the best rapper. I saw it on MTV. They compared loads and Jay-Z came out top. The Black album is mighty impressive.
So it seems, no matter what you say someone is going to disagree.
so I said Jay-Z, cos he is actually the best rapper. I saw it on MTV :confused:
Ogopa Djz
13-07-2004, 23:33
:confused:
Jay aint bad. Lets just say he's the best rapper commercially. He appeals to alot of people. He even said he had to dumb down his lyrics so he could sell more. Cause look at black star, or common who have very positive lyrics but dont sell as much. ;)
Kanye West, 2Pac, Nas and Jay-Z
Jay aint bad. Lets just say he's the best rapper commercially. He appeals to alot of people.Na! Eminem is the best rapper commercially, automatically he'll sell atleast 4 million per album.
Ogopa Djz
16-07-2004, 18:19
Na! Eminem is the best rapper commercially, automatically he'll sell atleast 4 million per album.
Aight thats true.I forgot to factor him in. :D
in my opinion 2pac was the best rapper of all time...nowadays i enjoy listening to outkast,especially because of andre 3000...damn he's got talent
Dundon's
18-07-2004, 01:28
John Cena....
P.S or Zig n Zag ;)
Ogopa Djz
20-07-2004, 17:07
John Cena....
P.S or Zig n Zag ;)
Yeah i loved his album what was it called"i loved getting pinned by some sweaty dude" a true classic.
gooner2005
20-07-2004, 17:10
"BIGGIE BIGGIE SMALLS IS THE ILLEST" end of!
Ogopa Djz
20-07-2004, 17:11
"BIGGIE BIGGIE SMALLS IS THE ILLEST" end of!
Gotta love de oxymorons. :D
pamani63
25-07-2004, 15:43
Very hard to pick on one artist alone...I listen to a lot of Hip-Hop...but my vote would have to go to Slick Rick!
Very hard to pick on one artist alone...I listen to a lot of Hip-Hop...but my vote would have to go to Slick Rick!
Slick Rick's ''The Great Adventures of Slick Rick''
album was incredible, a classic for me. He is the rapper who put storytelling on the map. Todays rappers have bit his rhymes and style hard e.g Nas, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, Cormega, Eminem etc. He fell off though, and was in and out of prison, hardly making songs and could never overcome his debut. Thats the only reason why i won't class him as the best rapper ever but would class him as a poineer for innovating hip-hop when it came to storytelling no one could touch him man.
Ogopa Djz
25-07-2004, 18:47
What has anybody mentioned rakim or black thought?
^^look at the bottom of page 6 and also page 7.
Ogopa Djz
25-07-2004, 21:15
Black thought another great rapper.
Black thought another great rapper.
never really heard of him.
Mc Clean
25-07-2004, 21:45
2 pac !!!!!!
Jay-Z is as good as/better than any of those, and I'm not a fan of his. Big into Wu Tang though. Method Man is class.
I gave my opinion of my best rapper, Snoop Dogg, but got slated, so I said Jay-Z, cos he is actually the best rapper. I saw it on MTV.
yaeh mtv who put Nas 25th and nelly 11th. who also put tupacs best song as changes.
Mc Clean
25-07-2004, 23:28
changes is probably 2 pacs best song
van ajineh
25-07-2004, 23:34
christopher wallace A.K.A the notorious BIG is the best rapper of all time
may his soul R.I.P
Pac, Biggie, Meth, Cube, Snoop, Nas
changes is probably 2 pacs best songno it isnt... its his most well known, but how u can say its his best is beggars belief, hes got about 20 unreleased songs better than that
Ogopa Djz
26-07-2004, 00:02
never really heard of him.
The main rapper off of The Roots. Very lyrical guy.
The main rapper off of The Roots. Very lyrical guy.
oh i see, yeah he's incredible man. Damn right he's very lyrical.
van ajineh
26-07-2004, 14:01
oh i see, yeah he's incredible man. Damn right he's very lyrical.
christopher wallace AKA the notorious BIG is and always will be the best rapper of all time
may his soul RIP
no it isnt... its his most well known, but how u can say its his best is beggars belief, hes got about 20 unreleased songs better than that
yep anyone who thinks Changes is his best song needs to actually listen to all 2pac albums. Changes was really nice but here is a list of my favourite 2pac tunes from when he was alive and after death:
-Panther Power
-Brenda's Got A Baby
-Holler If Ya Hear Me
-Keep Ya Head Up
-How Long Will They Mourn Me?
-So Many Tears
-Dear Mama
-Ambitionz Az a Ridah
-California Love
-I Ain't Mad at Cha
-Wonder Why They Call U Bitch
-Bomb First
-Toss it Up
-To Live & Die in L.A.
-Me and My Girlfriend ( Probably his best song LYRICALLY )
-Against All Odds
-Nothing to Lose
-Do For Love
-Baby Don't Cry (Keep Ya Head Up II)
-Homeboyz
-Letter 2 My Unborn
-Until the End of Time
-Niggaz Nature Remix
-Lastonesleft
-Words 2 My First Born
-When We Ride On Our Enemies
-Mama's Just a Little Girl
-Thugz Mansion
-Never Call U Bitch Again
-Fame
-They Don't Give a Fuck About Us
-Staring Through My Rearview
-Made Niggaz
-Pain
-Wanted Dead or Alive
-Hit 'Em Up ( best diss record next to 'Ether' )
-Ghost
-Runnin'
christopher wallace AKA the notorious BIG is and always will be the best rapper of all time
may his soul RIP
i think you should read the whole thread mate :rolleyes: i'm going for Biggie aswell.
Ogopa Djz
26-07-2004, 16:03
yep anyone who thinks Changes is his best song needs to actually listen to all 2pac albums. Changes was really nice but here is a list of my favourite 2pac tunes from when he was alive and after death:
-Panther Power
-Brenda's Got A Baby
-Holler If Ya Hear Me
-Keep Ya Head Up
-How Long Will They Mourn Me?
-So Many Tears
-Dear Mama
-Ambitionz Az a Ridah
-California Love
-I Ain't Mad at Cha
-Wonder Why They Call U Bitch
-Bomb First
-Toss it Up
-To Live & Die in L.A.
-Me and My Girlfriend ( Probably his best song LYRICALLY )
-Against All Odds
-Nothing to Lose
-Do For Love
-Baby Don't Cry (Keep Ya Head Up II)
-Homeboyz
-Letter 2 My Unborn
-Until the End of Time
-Niggaz Nature Remix
-Lastonesleft
-Words 2 My First Born
-When We Ride On Our Enemies
-Mama's Just a Little Girl
-Thugz Mansion
-Never Call U Bitch Again
-Fame
-They Don't Give a Fuck About Us
-Staring Through My Rearview
-Made Niggaz
-Pain
-Wanted Dead or Alive
-Hit 'Em Up ( best diss record next to 'Ether' )
-Ghost
-Runnin'
Yo Gplay you missed (unless i misread it) One day at a time and till the end of time.
Yo Gplay you missed (unless i misread it) One day at a time and till the end of time.
2pac's verse on ''One Day At A Time'' wasn't good only the others, so it ain't my favourite 2PAC tune Ogopa. Until The End Of Time is on the list mate. :cool:
Ogopa Djz
26-07-2004, 16:19
2pac's verse on ''One Day At A Time'' wasn't good only the others, so it ain't my favourite 2PAC tune Ogopa. Until The End Of Time is on the list mate. :cool:
If the song ended right after his verse then i am sure you would have loved it. Em kinda stepped in and killed it.
P.s. I see it ;)
If the song ended right after his verse then i am sure you would have loved it. Em kinda stepped in and killed it.
P.s. I see it ;)the original One Day At A Time is shit loads better with Spice-1, thats what shudda been released, classic shit like that instead of aload of artists tryna get a piece of Pac
Ogopa Djz
27-07-2004, 03:51
Hey Gplay add Life goes on onto the list.
2Pac. Everyone should hear Changes, Me against the world and Dear mama
2Pac. Everyone should hear Changes, Me against the world and Dear mama :confused:
Gun_Runner
30-07-2004, 22:13
2Pac is the best rapper of all time !no doubt look at how many albums he has released and even after his death ,songs of his were released ........Dr.Dre has got 2 b the best Rapper/producer of all time .....evidence-----Still DRE,Forgot About Dre,Next Episode......he made Eminem,Eazy-E,Ice Cube..........Nas has got smart lyrics tho....RAKIM is shite in my opinion and hes also a jew ...and someone said no1 has anything against RAKIM most 2pac fans do for some reason as RAKIM claimed 2 be the "teacher" of rap
Rapper/producer of all time .....evidence-----Still DRE,Forgot About Dre,Next Episode......he made Eminem,Eazy-E,Ice Cube.RAKIM is shite in my opinion and hes also a jew ...and someone said no1 has anything against RAKIM most 2pac fans do for some reason as RAKIM claimed 2 be the "teacher" of rapid say DJ Quik is better than Dre personally, and u aint got a fucken clue son why is Rakim shite???? most Pac fans dont have a clue about rap, ther just groupies and i dunno many Pac fans who hate Ra.... and im one of em.... and Rakim aint a Jew hes a Muslim u prick
RAKIM is shite in my opinion and hes also a jew ...
:eek: don't tell me your a goddamn yob, cause we don't need yobs on this site man.
RAKIM claimed 2 be the "teacher" of rap
Rakim created complex lyrics therefore pionered hip-hop to a next level, therefore is that person who gave birth to such rappers as 2pac, Biggie, Nas, Jay-Z, Canibus etc.
Ogopa Djz
30-07-2004, 22:43
2Pac is the best rapper of all time !no doubt look at how many albums he has released and even after his death ,songs of his were released ........Dr.Dre has got 2 b the best Rapper/producer of all time .....evidence-----Still DRE,Forgot About Dre,Next Episode......he made Eminem,Eazy-E,Ice Cube..........Nas has got smart lyrics tho....RAKIM is shite in my opinion and hes also a jew ...and someone said no1 has anything against RAKIM most 2pac fans do for some reason as RAKIM claimed 2 be the "teacher" of rap
Rakim's a jew LOl. Bro you must make a habit too double check your info. And if you didn't Rakim is muslim and so was 2pac and Nas. Even though he might not be the self proclaimed "teacher" of rap he did lead the way in rap for complex rhymes and lyrics.
And if you didn't Rakim is muslim and so was 2pac and Nas.
Nas was an Atheist :)
Ogopa Djz
31-07-2004, 03:11
Nas was an Atheist :)
Nasir Jones was or is an athiest? CHANGE TOPIC-Did you know Busta Ryhmes an Atheist.
Nasir Jones was or is an athiest? CHANGE TOPIC-Did you know Busta Ryhmes an Atheist.nop.... all i knew is he's sold out and fell off big time since 10 years ago
Ogopa Djz
14-08-2004, 16:22
Yo i found Jay-z's protege the next guy to take his place,his name is Lupe fiasco.Go here and click on his song Failure and see wat i am talking about.http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks.Just scroll down a bit and you'll see Lupe Fiasco click on Failure his song.
Gun_Runner
14-08-2004, 16:37
2pac best rapper of all time
Ogopa Djz
14-08-2004, 19:46
Yo i found Jay-z's protege the next guy to take his place,his name is Lupe fiasco.Go here and click on his song Failure and see wat i am talking about.http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks.Just scroll down a bit and you'll see Lupe Fiasco click on Failure his song.
Yo is Gunplay around. Yo Gplay listen to this and tell me wat u think. ;)
Yo is Gunplay around. Yo Gplay listen to this and tell me wat u think. ;)
He's kinda cool, maybe will be a Jay-Z. But Grafh is who i'm looking out for.
2pAC OR Jay-z best rapper all time
2pAC OR Jay-z best rapper all timeany theory as too why??
Would 2pac still be as great if he was alive today?
Would he still be rapping/acting?
Would he have his now legendary status?
Scarface
28-08-2004, 15:22
id say between jay z & 2Pac, id prob just give it 2 jay z, no theory except 4 their songs i like the most ;)
Would 2pac still be as great if he was alive today?
Would he still be rapping/acting?
Would he have his now legendary status?
I feel ya jMz. The truth is 2pac got killed because he had a big-mouth that he couldn't control. Biggie died as a consequence to even the odds. Very sad story.
any theory as too why??
2pac-because he had many hits after hits he kept releasing wicked albums and plus hes a legend as well.Albums selled millions of copies
Jay z-A consistent artist, who has recorded with the best of them from beyonce to missy elliot. Hes a key figure in the hip hop business. plus he has had many number 1s like 2pac.
just a few reasons
Jay z-A consistent artist, who has recorded with the best of them from beyonce to missy elliot. Hes a key figure in the hip hop business. plus he has had many number 1s like 2pac.
Sorry to say this Singh, but making number 1 hits is doo dooo in justifying your a really good rapper. Your leaning too much onto the business side, mate. Missy Elliot is a shite rapper thats a fact, she is shite all around. Jay-Z is a key figure in HipHop just because of his incredible business mind. Nas is better IMO and Biggie is the best rapper, ever.
Sorry to say this Singh, but making number 1 hits is doo dooo in justifying your a really good rapper. Your leaning too much onto the business side, mate. Missy Elliot is a shite rapper thats a fact, she is shite all around. Jay-Z is a key figure in HipHop jsut because of his incredible business mind. Nas is better IMO and Biggie is the best rapper, ever.
ok i see where you coming from, by artists getting number 1s does help,in fact thats why most ppl are in music industry to make no1 songs,yea i know missy elliot is shite rapper.
nas vs jay-z rember it?? i will leave that at there no more said on that
Biggie or 2pac??
ok i see where you coming from, by artists getting number 1s does help,in fact thats why most ppl are in music industry to make no1 songs,yea i know missy elliot is shite rapper.
nas vs jay-z rember it?? i will leave that at there no more said on that
Biggie or 2pac??
What your basically saying is people join the Music biz to make money off number 1 hits, which is true and disgusting because back then people made music for the love of it for example the great Bob Marley. The industry is soo fucked up nowadays, trust. People can make the worst song in the world and get number 1.
yeah Nas VS Jay-z ? Nas murdered Jigga end of story. Ether.
Biggie or 2pac ? Very hard to decide, as 2pac was a legend who was actually bigger than HipHop itself. Biggie was a better lyricist his ability to play with words was extraordinary, listen to '' Warning '' a song in which Biggie is describing a situation in which he is woken up by a call from his mate, telling him how his own mates are gonna try kill him. Also ''Gimme The Loot'' a song in which Biggie raps as 2 different people, one is himself, the other his partner in crime, CLASSIC.
What your basically saying is people join the Music biz to make money off number 1 hits, which is true and disgusting because back then people made music for the love of it for example the great Bob Marley. The industry is soo fucked up nowadays, trust. People can make the worst song in the world and get number 1.
yeah Nas VS Jay-z ? Nas murdered Jigga end of story. Ether.
Biggie or 2pac ? Very hard to decide, as 2pac was a legend who was actually bigger than HipHop itself. Biggie was a better lyricist his ability to play with words was extraordinary, listen to '' Warning '' a song in which Biggie is describing a situation in which he is woken up by a call from his mate, telling him how his own mates are gonna try kill him. Also ''Gimme The Loot'' a song in which Biggie raps as 2 different people one is himself the other his partner in crime, CLASSIC.
People can make the worst song in the world and get number 1.
have you got any examples of this cause i cant rember this happing much in hip hop/ r n b?? i can remeber this happing in pop etccc
yea youre right about nas vs jay-z no competion for nas i reckon. but you have got to remeber nas only comes out what every 4 years or so, imo all round jay-z is betta and more consitent whereas when nas raps he raps about things that happen in real life. Whereas Jay-z raps abt Drugs,girls, and crystal. so there are many for and against on this matter
Biggie or 2-pac?? i agree to hard to decide we could sit here all day discussing who is better and we still wont work out who is, there both trully the legends. i havent heard "warning" though prob good anyway
People can make the worst song in the world and get number 1.
have you got any examples of this cause i cant rember this happing much in hip hop/ r n b?? i can remeber this happing in pop etccc
All I gotta say......MC Hammer.
All I gotta say......MC Hammer.
enuff said how could i forget him :eek:
enuff said how could i forget him :eek:add Vanilla Ice to the equation ;)
add Vanilla Ice to the equation ;)
LOL I kinda liked Vanilla Ice thought he was decent :D , but their was no need for him to be doing the ''runningman'' every couple of seconds.
add Vanilla Ice to the equation ;)
vanillia ice and mc hammer wat a badddd combination that is
sukhy2004
01-09-2004, 02:19
The Best Rapper of all time has to be either Jay - Z or B.I.G
Original?
01-09-2004, 18:48
There are different ones? :eek:
I thought it was all done by the same guy, sure sounds like it! ;)
There are different ones? :eek:
I thought it was all done by the same guy, sure sounds like it! ;)
What are you talking about ?
svendust
01-09-2004, 20:55
The best is IMO 2 Pac but the worst is definetley what ever wank-targets sing 'guns don't kill people wabbado' :rolleyes:
'guns don't kill people wabbado'
wat is sup with those ppl they must be starving for fame to relase a shit song like that!!
Gun_Runner
01-09-2004, 21:06
2Pac is da best of all time ........Eminem ,50Cent Jay-z and Nas aint too bad either
big jizzle
01-09-2004, 21:06
please its easy, the best rapper of all time is without doubt Big Pun!!!
2Pac is da best of all time ........Eminem ,50Cent Jay-z and Nas aint too bad eitherso whats on MTV these days then?? :p
please its easy, the best rapper of all time is without doubt Big Pun!!!
Pun was sick, Biggie was better, sorry but it's the truth.
Mc Clean
02-09-2004, 13:20
2pac or Dr. dre
2pac or Dr. dre
I'd say, neither. DrDre doesn't write his lyrics, he never has. MC Ren used to help him during his N.W.A days, RBX, Royce Da 5'9, Eminem, Jay-Z and Snoop have all wrote for Dre. So definite no no for The D.R.E, but production wise, hell yeah.
Mc Clean
02-09-2004, 13:26
I'd say Neither. DrDre doesn't write his lyrics, he never has. MC Ren used to help him during his NWA days, RBX, Royce Da 5'9, Eminem, Jay-Z and Snoop have all wrote for Dre. So definite no no for D.R.E, but production wise hell yeah.
thats your opinion, but Snoop can write but cant rap he is terrible compared to Dre or 2pac
thats your opinion, but Snoop can write but cant rap he is terrible compared to Dre or 2pacdre is a shit rapper, no flow, no uniqueness, slow delivery always been shit, whereas during 1991-1995 Snoop was untouchable... his flow was 2nd to none back in the day, he had that hunger and Dre & DOC pushing at him in the background... he was just amazing... and u cant disagree
the_gooner
02-09-2004, 13:33
its all about jayz , the black album spawned over 100 remix albums
thats your opinion, but Snoop can write but cant rap he is terrible compared to Dre or 2pac
No it isn't my opinion it's fact, mate. What I am saying is fact, Dr Dre has never wrote his songs, evidence ? Go to the ''Chronic 2001'' booklet, look at the writers names on the ''Still D.R.E'' listings, you will see S.Carter, do you know who that is ? Jay-Z.
And Snoop can rap, why do you think he is the King of Cali, go to your local HMV and get yourself a copy of ''Doggystyle'', classic.
its all about jayz , the black album spawned over 100 remix albumshaha and...... maybe because they released all the acapella's perhaps?? listen to Reasonable Doubt first before talkn about Jigga... and then say he hasnt sold out, gone pop and released an album half as good as that
big jizzle
06-09-2004, 15:11
Quote:
Originally Posted by S n double o p
2Pac is da best of all time ........Eminem ,50Cent Jay-z and Nas aint too bad either
i cant believe why u even compared them! the only thing they had in common was that they were BIG!!
biggie's lips got in the way when he rapped and plus no1 and i mean no1 can even touch the flow of big pun........he was amazing and easily by far the greatest......and that son is the truth.......if he was black then i think more people would be agreeing with me and if he got shot by some1 (and thats also the truth behing hip-hop which is a shame) and dont get me started on the state of which hip-hop is in.........ah the good ol' days when it was called gangsta rap...now hip-pop........everythin that comes out now is the same......only rapper comin out soon that can offer a different perspective is Jin and he keeps getting delayed...until then im jus listen to SlipKnot and Linkin Park l8rs!
big jizzle
06-09-2004, 15:13
oops wrong quote above it should be this one below!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by big jizzle
please its easy, the best rapper of all time is without doubt Big Pun!!!
Pun was sick, Biggie was better, sorry but it's the truth.
if he was black then i think more people would be agreeing with me and if he got shot by some1 (and thats also the truth behing hip-hop which is a shame) i cudnt give a shit if he was black, white, green or fucken pink.... race doesnt come into it when judging a rapper as far as im concerned... im not black b4 u say :p and that about if he got shot wouldnt make a difference either..... why does Harlem's Finest (Big L) not get mentioned more often if that was the case???
big jizzle
07-09-2004, 15:11
i can here wat ur sayin but u cant dent that if u have a "rep" of being a thug then mainstream people will by ur records........why do think people bought 50 (plus the fact he was signed to shady aftermath........wat i stated wasnt what evrybody thinks.........but it has become the case where the majority now do!! which is what i am sayin has changed hip hop for the worst!!
i can here wat ur sayin but u cant dent that if u have a "rep" of being a thug then mainstream people will by ur records........why do think people bought 50 (plus the fact he was signed to shady aftermath........wat i stated wasnt what evrybody thinks.........but it has become the case where the majority now do!! which is what i am sayin has changed hip hop for the worst!!oooo hip-hop is in a terrible state.... it was best what Ras Kass said...
"Hip-Hop Useta Be Hot With What An MC Said, Now Hip-Hop Dont Respect You Unless You Platinum & Dead"
we can blame ppl like Dr. Dre, Eminem, Ja-Rule, JD, Nelly, Cassidy, Chingy all ppl like these whove just sold hip-hop out completely
FutebolArte
07-09-2004, 15:14
I'm diggin on shit like, ugly duckling, blackalicious,MF Doom, the infecticons... now that's quality hiphop
oooo hip-hop is in a terrible state.... it was best what Ras Kass said...
"Hip-Hop Useta Be Hot With What An MC Said, Now Hip-Hop Dont Respect You Unless You Platinum & Dead"
we can blame ppl like Dr. Dre, Eminem, Ja-Rule, JD, Nelly, Cassidy, Chingy all ppl like these whove just sold hip-hop out completely
Word Bro, but then you gotta think what made them sell out.All these rappers got lives to live, kids to feed you know all that good stuff.Look at Comm sense,Talib Kweli,Mos deffizle and some other ones great rappers lack the commercial benefits of a Eminem.Money speaks volumes and as soon as the guys arent making as much as they want anything goes.
I can't believe you people are arguing, it's obviously Run DMC.
Scarface
12-09-2004, 01:13
I can't believe you people are arguing, it's obviously Run DMC.
do they count? i thought this was about just the best rapper (i.e 2Pac, Jay Z, Ludacris) and not includin rap bands like Run DMC, G unit etc :confused:
do they count? i thought this was about just the best rapper (i.e 2Pac, Jay Z, Ludacris) and not includin rap bands like Run DMC, G unit etc :confused:first of all G-Unit shudnt be considered anywhre near the best
Ogopa Djz
12-09-2004, 01:14
Word Bro, but then you gotta think what made them sell out.All these rappers got lives to live, kids to feed you know all that good stuff.Look at Comm sense,Talib Kweli,Mos deffizle and some other ones great rappers lack the commercial benefits of a Eminem.Money speaks volumes and as soon as the guys arent making as much as they want anything goes.
Truff. ;)
Scarface
12-09-2004, 01:17
first of all G-Unit shudnt be considered anywhre near the best
no, i wasnt sayin they shud b either, but i wasnt sure whether rap bands can b included in this as they obviously include more than 1 individual rapper.
no, i wasnt sayin they shud b either, but i wasnt sure whether rap bands can b included in this as they obviously include more than 1 individual rapper.oh good :) im jus sick of all this G-Unit bullshit thats surrounding the world these days
i cant believe why u even compared them! the only thing they had in common was that they were BIG!!
biggie's lips got in the way when he rapped and plus no1 and i mean no1 can even touch the flow of big pun........he was amazing and easily by far the greatest......and that son is the truth.......if he was black then i think more people would be agreeing with me and if he got shot by some1 (and thats also the truth behing hip-hop which is a shame) and dont get me started on the state of which hip-hop is in.........ah the good ol' days when it was called gangsta rap...now hip-pop........everythin that comes out now is the same......only rapper comin out soon that can offer a different perspective is Jin and he keeps getting delayed...until then im jus listen to SlipKnot and Linkin Park l8rs!
Are you crazy ? Biggie's lips got in the way :eek: ? WTF kinda excuse is that ? I could just say Big Pun's HUGE GASPS FOR BREATH put me off his rapping. Silly, actually incredibly stupid excuses mate. You say nobody can touch Pun's flow, yet you have no damn evidence. I'm sorry but a person's skin colour is impossible to know through listening. Being shot gets you some shine ofcourse, but doesn't improve your ability to rhyme. Biggie was killed over a misunderstanding, Pun died because he had 1 or too many burgers AND THAT SON IS THE TRUTH ;) . Jin ain't the only one, their is meant to be some buzz about a dood called ''Corey Gunz'' that I haven't heard yet, but peeps are saying he is sickness on legs. Pun was a superb rapper but Biggie was better thats a fact man, Pun never put out a classic album or one that is regarded a classic by anybody, even you know he hasn't. End of story.
I can't believe you people are arguing, it's obviously Run DMC.
Run DMC are legends for their superb creativity and the way they broke into mainstream without selling their souls. But Rakim was the BIG SHOT them days, no lie, with Kane inches behind him.
Ogopa Djz
12-09-2004, 01:40
So this is a thread about who you think as an individual is best rapper of all time?Aight.Its still unclear on many levels as to what you call good rap.I personally view anything piece of work that Black star,Comm sense,GZA as excellent examples of rap.Not to say Nas and Jigga dont have anything worth listening too is just that i believe the rap game needs intellectual rhymes that are promoting change and intellectual growth at the same time.
big jizzle
14-09-2004, 20:55
Are you crazy ? Biggie's lips got in the way :eek: ? WTF kinda excuse is that ? I could just say Big Pun's HUGE GASPS FOR BREATH put me off his rapping. Silly, actually incredibly stupid excuses mate. You say nobody can touch Pun's flow, yet you have no damn evidence. I'm sorry
but a person's skin colour is impossible to know through listening. Being shot gets you some shine ofcourse, but doesn't improve your ability to rhyme. Biggie was killed over a misunderstanding, Pun died because he had 1 or too many burgers AND THAT SON IS THE TRUTH ;) . Jin ain't the only one, their is meant to be some buzz about a dood called ''Corey Gunz'' that I haven't heard yet, but peeps are saying he is sickness on legs. Pun was a superb rapper but Biggie was better thats a fact man, Pun never put out a classic album or one that is regarded a classic by anybody, even you know he hasn't. End of story.
lol...................u totally misunderstood the purpose of my post, all we are doing here is expressing opinions........hence u cant state that ur opinion is a fact..........thats what i was tryin to get across to u by coming up with that silly excuse about biggie! u took it seriously lol....but to be honest i neva really listened to biggie because IMO something was missing that didnt really keep me listening!!
btw u dont think that Capital Punishment was a classic??..for the first latino rapper to go platinum i believe that warrants a great achievement and a classic status! but that again is MY OPINION and NOT A FACT!!! something u havent grasped yet lol! ;)
big jizzle
14-09-2004, 20:56
So this is a thread about who you think as an individual is best rapper of all time?Aight.Its still unclear on many levels as to what you call good rap.I personally view anything piece of work that Black star,Comm sense,GZA as excellent examples of rap.Not to say Nas and Jigga dont have anything worth listening too is just that i believe the rap game needs intellectual rhymes that are promoting change and intellectual growth at the same time.
tru............tru
btw u dont think that Capital Punishment was a classic??..for the first latino rapper to go platinum i believe that warrants a great achievement and a classic status!
If selling records makes you a classic album, then. MC Hammer & Vanilla Ice are the best rappers ever :rolleyes: . The fact you never really listened to Biggie Smalls makes me take no notice of your OPINION.
I have all 3 albums released by Pun, I have listened to them thoroughly and say neither are classics. Mind you he does make some classic joints, but his album runs out of creativity, which Biggie has in a bag. Plus, on Pun's ''Yeeeah Baby'' the track ''Off Wit His Head'', Prospect outshines him, Biggie was outshone by nobody.
dark-prince
14-09-2004, 22:32
eminem, duh!
eminem, duh!
Let's wait for ''Encore'' to be released ;) . Currently he has only dropped 1 classic, out of the 4 attempts.
Casillas
15-09-2004, 06:39
Bone Thugs are good as well, they came up with the fast rapping style.
And Tha Crossroads is one of the best songs of all time, truly a classic.
Though you can't rule out Big L aswell, listen to "Let Em' Have It L" and you'll know what i'm talkin' about ;)
big jizzle
15-09-2004, 16:29
If selling records makes you a classic album, then. MC Hammer & Vanilla Ice are the best rappers ever :rolleyes: . The fact you never really listened to Biggie Smalls makes me take no notice of your OPINION.
I have all 3 albums released by Pun, I have listened to them thoroughly and say neither are classics. Mind you he does make some classic joints, but his album runs out of creativity, which Biggie has in a bag. Plus, on Pun's ''Yeeeah Baby'' the track ''Off Wit His Head'', Prospect outshines him, Biggie was outshone by nobody.
im not speakin for my opinion to be valued.......its called expression but it looks as thou u c what i was sayin apart frm the bit about pun goin platinum....u misunderstood :rolleyes: , (mc hammer and vanilla ice lol :rolleyes: ) but that doesnt bother me......anyways i best be off...hip hop is still annoyin me nowadays.....so slipknot is still wat im listenin to l8ly i never realised but music that u can relate to makes it much more enjoyable, gives u a feelin that IMO hip hop cant give! (for me anyway) unless u live like what they talk about! (again my opinion)........i gotta prepare myself for the match tonight......liverpool best win...........come on u reds!!!..........gunplay...don t start chattin shit bout the reds now!!!...u'l take this discussion to another level! :D lol l8r
big jizzle
15-09-2004, 16:30
btw the only one pun completed was capital punishment
Eric Clyde
15-09-2004, 19:56
without QUESTION 2Pac is the best Rapper but i like some others like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Eminem, D12, Twista, 50 Cent and Lloyd Banks
btw the only one pun completed was capital punishment
No, ''Yeeeah Baby'' was done, then he died before making the first video for the single. Or I suppose releasing a video makes your album more complete :rolleyes: .
ishan1990
21-09-2004, 03:13
That guy from THE STREETS
willvane
21-09-2004, 03:46
P. Diddy
BAD BOY for life!
Ogopa Djz
26-09-2004, 16:17
Talib Kweli
Great but underatted.Same for Mos Def and Comm Sense. :cool:
Ogopa Djz
02-10-2004, 17:57
Still Pac and Biggie da greatest.No need to argue that. ;)
2pac or Eminem are the best rappers in my opinion :)
2pac or Eminem are the best rappers in my opinion :)
Biggie is in with a big shout. He was lyrically better than both. Eminem hasn't been himself lately :rolleyes: .
Biggie is a good rapper but i would say 2pac and Eminem would be number 1 and 2 for the best rappers of all time.
a poll would have been good here :)
Biggie is a good rapper but i would say 2pac and Eminem would be number 1 and 2 for the best rappers of all time.
a poll would have been good here :)
You need to take a listen to some of Biggie's tracks. Thats what people fail to do. He is probably the least heard of, out of the 3.
A poll, will be a great idea, but their are too many rappers to fit in.
You need to take a listen to some of Biggie's tracks. Thats what people fail to do. He is probably the least heard of, out of the 3.
A poll, will be a great idea, but their are too many rappers to fit in.
ok i will listen to some Biggie tracks later on :)
yeh good point there would be to many good Rappers to put in the poll :rolleyes:
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