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flavio_sk

18-08-2010, 17:58

Thread dedicated to players stats in PES 2011. Please, add here.

A will start with C. Ronaldo, Kaká, Messi and Sneidjer stats:

http://img651.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=cr7f.jpg

Zardo

18-08-2010, 19:09

would be nice to see stats from players nice one mate

mr.yes

18-08-2010, 19:46

good . but there were no names for players !!

flavio_sk

18-08-2010, 20:54

In sequence: C. Ronaldo, Kaka, Messi and Sneidjer. Two images for player.

Stormrider

18-08-2010, 22:34

What a waste of time. Those guys are pretty much identical to last year. Should've posted someone that got a noticeable upgrade.

Gerad

18-08-2010, 23:15

So Ronaldo can head like Nistelrooy in his prime? LMAO

CDDRodrigo

19-08-2010, 00:05

Most of Konami's stats are way off IMO. That's why I use PSD.

muscularmatt

19-08-2010, 01:00

Yeah all those look pretty much like what the players were like 2 years ago. Has anyone from Konami noticed how shit Kaka has been over the past 12 months?

DunkTheJunk

19-08-2010, 01:45

messi 95 aggression? that cant be right

ThaReaper01

19-08-2010, 01:53

Yeah all those look pretty much like what the players were like 2 years ago. Has anyone from Konami noticed how shit Kaka has been over the past 12 months?

He hasn't been shit. He's been a bit of a crock, but not shit.

StringerBell

19-08-2010, 04:29

Most of Konami's stats are way off IMO. That's why I use PSD.

The database is far worse everyone has the same shotpower and can curve the ball like the best of them by their measures. Say what you want about certain ratings but I believe for the most part Konami gets it right.

villa721

19-08-2010, 13:50

hi give me the stats of david villa on pes 2011 please

heatuk10

19-08-2010, 14:21

So Ronaldo can head like Nistelrooy in his prime? LMAO

Ronnie's great in the air!

Zardo

19-08-2010, 16:38

KAKA 95 in attack, who the hell on konami are creating the stats ? no seriously its hard as shit to actually understand how this could be right. This guy have been playing as shit since almost 2 years ago.. I hope players like albrighton or pedrito get what they deserve and players like buffon get the stats down.. buffon 98 on defense???? please...

FutebolArte

19-08-2010, 17:12

Gerad

19-08-2010, 17:22

Ronnie's great in the air!

Were talking about van nistelrooy

When Ronaldo heads a goal people say "he is good in the air remember"

Whatever... i would want ruud instead of ronaldo in the air for my team anyday.

All im saying is that its slightly higher than it should be, he is good in the air your right, but not jimmy greaves, alan shearer ability

Zardo

19-08-2010, 18:38

a guy can be 95 in attack and have a D condition rating or have shit stamina stats etc... don't look at one number look at the whole thing...

Off course I do I just saying that specific stat is so overated and thats ashame.

Stormrider

19-08-2010, 18:39

So Ronaldo can head like Nistelrooy in his prime? LMAO

Ronaldo is fantastic in the air, better than RVN imo. A lot of his headers you can see him jumping back a bit but still put great power and place it right in the corners. Definitely 1 of the best in the biz. RVN was more known for his lethal shooting than heading ability.

Most of Konami's stats are way off IMO. That's why I use PSD.

Those guys at PSD haven't got a clue. They have no idea how the orange player cards work so they just hand them out like no tomorrow. They gave Messi trickster! When have you ever seen the guy do a stepover? Paul Scholes has something like 5 orange cards when at his current age he should only have 1 of them. Also seems like they don't actually test out the players cuz when I tested out similar stats some players were far too good. Avoid that site like a plague and just use your own judgement which hopefully is better than theirs.

Gerad

19-08-2010, 19:14

Ronaldo is fantastic in the air, better than RVN imo. A lot of his headers you can see him jumping back a bit but still put great power and place it right in the corners. Definitely 1 of the best in the biz. RVN was more known for his lethal shooting than heading ability.

Those guys at PSD haven't got a clue. They have no idea how the orange player cards work so they just hand them out like no tomorrow. They gave Messi trickster! When have you ever seen the guy do a stepover? Paul Scholes has something like 5 orange cards when at his current age he should only have 1 of them. Also seems like they don't actually test out the players cuz when I tested out similar stats some players were far too good. Avoid that site like a plague and just use your own judgement which hopefully is better than theirs.

But to give somebody a 98 out of 100 in heading or w/e it was he got. Thats like saying "ronaldo is the greatest header of the ball in the history of football"

Paul scholes short.long passing, shooting power and agression should for me be all yellow In my opinion

I do hope xavi is high and nani increases

mr.yes

19-08-2010, 22:18

I do hope xavi is high

yeah ! i agree . he was playing ve:happy:ry well in the world cup .

Stormrider

19-08-2010, 22:33

He's a 94, not 98 so no he's not the best header in the history of Pes. Klose, Toni, Trezeguet, Gilardino, Martin Palermo, Inzaghi, Bierhoff, Alan Shearer, Van Basten, Ruud Gullitt, Borgetti, Zamorano, Hakan Sukur. These are just some of the players that have had 95+ header rating at some point. If you know Pes then you'd know that there's quite a big jump from 94 to 95+. You also can't just look at the numbers as really strong players like Drogba, even though lower heading accuracy, are usually better headers of the ball so all this means Ronaldo can hardly be called the best header in history. You should really look at the facts first instead of just coughing up random numbers and conclusions.

flavio_sk

20-08-2010, 04:17

More stats. In sequence: Iniesta, Pedro, Rooney e Xavi.

http://img638.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=iniesta2g.jpg

Stormrider

20-08-2010, 05:05

Some nice upgrades for Iniesta and Xavi. Disappointed with Rooney's header upgrade, he deserves a yellow. Loving the fixed overall ratings too.

cricket

20-08-2010, 07:00

How about Nani (manchester united), Bale (spurs),Van Der Vaart(real madrid), and Alou Diarra (france), thank you for sharing!

danzine

20-08-2010, 10:31

Fabregas passing if it is not in red what is the point

villa721

20-08-2010, 13:25

please give me the stats of david villa forward fc barcelone

turnburger

20-08-2010, 13:34

can you get the stats of graeme dorrans, kevin doyle,rosicky,modric,dani pacheco and giovani dos santos

john4

20-08-2010, 15:23

messi 95 aggression? that cant be right

why cant that be right? Agrression stat in PES means attacking aggression. how often they get forward and stuff, not aggression like how hard they tackle ect.

nice to see ronaldo is considerably faster than rooney this time, in 09 they had the same speed just about :/

Stormrider

20-08-2010, 18:41

nice to see ronaldo is considerably faster than rooney this time, in 09 they had the same speed just about :/

When the game 1st released they were but by the time the latest dlc hit Rooney got nerfed to 83-86.

edit: oops just realized you were talking about 09 hehe.

Amateur

20-08-2010, 20:05

Yeah all those look pretty much like what the players were like 2 years ago. Has anyone from Konami noticed how shit Kaka has been over the past 12 months?

Over the last 3 YEARS would be more accurate, hugely overrated player in my opinion; some people even compare him to Zinedine Zidane...

I agree about the PSD... they do not test what they do, and this shows when you do play-test their rubbish stats.

Xavi Hernandez should have 99 in Dribbling Accuracy and 99 in Technique and like an 85 in dribbling speed, but with a 60 in Acceleration; I have experimented with the stats and I feel that's the better way of creating someone similar to Xavi Hernandez.

muscularmatt

21-08-2010, 14:24

MysteryMan

21-08-2010, 16:47

These stats are laughable so far are they wrong , lmao.

Stormrider

21-08-2010, 20:06

Over the last 3 YEARS would be more accurate, hugely overrated player in my opinion; some people even compare him to Zinedine Zidane...

I agree about the PSD... they do not test what they do, and this shows when you do play-test their rubbish stats.

Xavi Hernandez should have 99 in Dribbling Accuracy and 99 in Technique and like an 85 in dribbling speed, but with a 60 in Acceleration; I have experimented with the stats and I feel that's the better way of creating someone similar to Xavi Hernandez.

That makes Xavi better than Zidane who had something like 97/98 :erm:. Are you 1 of the admins on PSD? :laugh:. For someone who is constantly boasting about their football knowledge I thought you'd have more sense than that.

Amateur

21-08-2010, 20:19

That makes Xavi better than Zidane who had something like 97/98 :erm:. Are you 1 of the admins on PSD? :laugh:. For someone who is constantly boasting about their football knowledge I thought you'd have more sense than that.

That does not make Xavi better than Zidane, only an imbecile like yourself would draw such a narrow-minded conclusion...

Zidane is a lot faster in terms of acceleration (yes, Zidane could actually accelerate past two defenders whereas Xavi cannot do that) and has a much superior goal-scoring ability and was equally accurate with both feet.

Having 99 in dribbling accuracy and 60 in acceleration -- does not makes you better than a player with 95 in dribbling accuracy and 90 in acceleration.

Zidane had better acceleration and better top speed and better dribbling speed and above all he was a bigger and stronger player who could take care of himself, this affects dribbling in a big way.

Apparently, it is you who lacks the football knowledge and who likes to boast about it. And the way you said, it's just very offensive and childish, as well as a very poor argument.

I suggest you test the stats before making fun of anyone, PSD included; otherwise you might end up making a fool of yourself, which you did... not that anyone cares, I certainly don't give shit.

I have play-tested the stats and I know what Xavi can and cannot do.

Play with someone with 99 in Dribbling Accuracy but with 50 in Acceleration: try to run past defenders and see what happens...

RAMAXWY

21-08-2010, 22:56

@Stormrider, he's right.
its almost impossible to take the ball of Xavi when he's in possesion but he usually just turns around in midfield to look for open teammates to give a killer pass,so you wont be seeing him make Messi runs with an acceleration of 60 he just doesn't have that burst of speed but you will have a hard time winning the ball which is about right if you ask me.

Stormrider

23-08-2010, 16:43

Apparently, it is you who lacks the football knowledge and who likes to boast about it. And the way you said, it's just very offensive and childish, as well as a very poor argument.

Yeah I'm definitely far more childish than someone who goes around saying "That does not make Xavi better than Zidane, only an imbecile like yourself would draw such a narrow-minded conclusion..." :rolleyes:. You are the biggest hypocrite on these boards and seriously it's time to get off your high horse.

No matter how you wanna look at it, Xavi should never be rated higher or equal to Zidane, Maradona, Pele, Messi, and Ronaldinho in terms of ball control. That's just foolish. He's not even on the same level as Iniesta, which is properly reflected in the game already. Xavi is fantastic in his own right but let's not get carried away. I wonder how many people will disagree with this.

@Stormrider, he's right.
its almost impossible to take the ball of Xavi when he's in possesion but he usually just turns around in midfield to look for open teammates to give a killer pass,so you wont be seeing him make Messi runs with an acceleration of 60 he just doesn't have that burst of speed but you will have a hard time winning the ball which is about right if you ask me.

His stats already make him great in keeping possession and controlling the ball when I use him. Imo it's more of a Pes 2010 engine flaw that doesn't truly reflect small conductors like Xavi and Scholes but I have a hunch he'll play much better in Pes 2011 without giving him the best ball control of all time.

Amateur

23-08-2010, 21:31

Yeah I'm definitely far more childish than someone who goes around saying "That does not make Xavi better than Zidane, only an imbecile like yourself would draw such a narrow-minded conclusion..." :rolleyes:. You are the biggest hypocrite on these boards and seriously it's time to get off your high horse.

No matter how you wanna look at it, Xavi should never be rated higher or equal to Zidane, Maradona, Pele, Messi, and Ronaldinho in terms of ball control. That's just foolish. He's not even on the same level as Iniesta, which is properly reflected in the game already. Xavi is fantastic in his own right but let's not get carried away. I wonder how many people will disagree with this.

His stats already make him great in keeping possession and controlling the ball when I use him. Imo it's more of a Pes 2010 engine flaw that doesn't truly reflect small conductors like Xavi and Scholes but I have a hunch he'll play much better in Pes 2011 without giving him the best ball control of all time.

You are not in a position to lecture anyone about hypocrisy,

As for the stats, I don't know if you have noticed it, but it is close to impossible to take the ball away from Xavi Hernandez. You mentioned Ronaldinho and Zinedine Zidane, both tricksters, does using tricks makes them better dribblers?

Maradona, Pele, Leo Messi, Zinedine Zidane, Ronadinho; so what, slow players who cannot accelerate past defenders are not as equally gifted dribblers as the players that you mentioned?

Is Andres Iniesta superior to Xavi? Since when? I have seen them play since they started and I have never noticed this superiority that you mentioned... being faster does not automatically makes you better... you would know that if you weren't so narrow-minded and condescending.

Xavi only uses the basics skills, that does not means he is a less gifted dribbler than Zinedine Zidane; he just has a different style and mentality... By the way, comparing Xavi with Scholes is RIDICULOUS... Xavi and Scholes are entirely different players; which again shows your lack of general knowledge regarding Football.

You are looking too much into ONE stat; acceleration, dribbling speed, top speed, agility, balance, technique, all play a part in the dribbling ability of a player.

Xavi has 99 or 95 in dribbling accuracy but with poor acceleration, as simple as that.

Stormrider

23-08-2010, 23:11

As for the stats, I don't know if you have noticed it, but it is close to impossible to take the ball away from Xavi Hernandez. You mentioned Ronaldinho and Zinedine Zidane, both tricksters, does using tricks makes them better dribblers?

Why the need to bring tricks into the equation? There are other factors in ball retention other than just dribble accuracy alone. Xavi might not have the strength of Zizou or the speed of a prime Dinho but he is blessed with some good agility which makes it all the harder for defenders to stop him. Sure you can say it's close to impossible to take the ball off Xavi but then I'll say it's impossible to take the ball of Zizou or prime Dinho. Close to impossible vs impossible, there's the difference in level for you.

Maradona, Pele, Leo Messi, Zinedine Zidane, Ronadinho; so what, slow players who cannot accelerate past defenders are not as equally gifted dribblers as the players that you mentioned?

I mentioned nothing about speed. Seriously since when was Zizou ever renowned for his speed? These guys are just better with the ball, slow or fast. That's all there is to it.

Is Andres Iniesta superior to Xavi? Since when? I have seen them play since they started and I have never noticed this superiority that you mentioned... being faster does not automatically makes you better... you would know that if you weren't so narrow-minded and condescending.

Trapping wise yes Iniesta is universally accepted as being superior. He is just magic. You can immediately tell when he instantly kills a ball coming in at speed, just like the aforementioned players. Xavi is great at this of course but sometimes he needs an extra touch to control the ball and other times it doesn't land as close to him as you'd like for someone who you deem deserves maxed technique.

Xavi only uses the basics skills, that does not means he is a less gifted dribbler than Zinedine Zidane; he just has a different style and mentality... By the way, comparing Xavi with Scholes is RIDICULOUS... Xavi and Scholes are entirely different players; which again shows your lack of general knowledge regarding Football.

Just because you have trouble reading doesn't mean you have to go stuff words in my mouth. Please tell me when I ever compared Xavi to Scholes in that post? All I meant was in their own ways, they are not properly represented in Pes 2010.

You are looking too much into ONE stat; acceleration, dribbling speed, top speed, agility, balance, technique, all play a part in the dribbling ability of a player.

Xavi has 99 or 95 in dribbling accuracy but with poor acceleration, as simple as that.

Now you're contradicting yourself because you didn't bring agility into the picture and just decided to take the lazy route and max his dribbling. Nothing would've been wrong if you wanted 95 dribbling accuracy. In the latest Pes 2010 dlc Konami actually gave him 95 which makes him great to control but because the game is flawed you'll lose the ball with him much more often than you should and maxing his dribbling won't erase that flaw. Don't know why they nerfed him to 93 according to that pic but it's still a very high stat and imo judging from the gamescon videos it's enough to allow him to keep the ball very well.

So decide already is it 95 or 99? Because in the Pes world that's a huge jump. Just from seeing you say 95 or 99 means from now on there's no need for me to take anything you say seriously anymore.

Alolo91

23-08-2010, 23:24

:thewave:

:duel:

:thewave:

DunkTheJunk

24-08-2010, 00:05

why cant that be right? Agrression stat in PES means attacking aggression. how often they get forward and stuff, not aggression like how hard they tackle ect.:/

Aggression: Behavior that is meant to intimidate or injure an animal of the same species or of a competing species but is not predatory. Aggression may be displayed during mating rituals or to defend territory, as by the erection of fins by fish and feathers by birds.

When you talk about a player being aggressive you talk about them being determined to get stuck in, going in hard for the ball and performing crunching tackles, not how often they get forward :S. For example Paul Scholes or Wayne Rooney should have a high agression, but Lionel Messi, no way, the silly little Argentine.

floriank90

24-08-2010, 00:27

would love to see more stats! thx in advance!

CDDRodrigo

24-08-2010, 02:17

Aggression: Behavior that is meant to intimidate or injure an animal of the same species or of a competing species but is not predatory. Aggression may be displayed during mating rituals or to defend territory, as by the erection of fins by fish and feathers by birds.

When you talk about a player being aggressive you talk about them being determined to get stuck in, going in hard for the ball and performing crunching tackles, not how often they get forward :S. For example Paul Scholes or Wayne Rooney should have a high agression, but Lionel Messi, no way, the silly little Argentine.

OMG, PES Agression stat has NOTHING to do with what agression literally means! In PES, Agression determines how high a player sit on the field and how frequent they attack.

You should read the stat description in the game.

flavio_sk

24-08-2010, 03:49

More stats:

http://img838.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=dscf6300.jpg

Ibrahimovic and Xabi Alonso.

Amateur

24-08-2010, 07:55

Why the need to bring tricks into the equation? There are other factors in ball retention other than just dribble accuracy alone. Xavi might not have the strength of Zizou or the speed of a prime Dinho but he is blessed with some good agility which makes it all the harder for defenders to stop him. Sure you can say it's close to impossible to take the ball off Xavi but then I'll say it's impossible to take the ball of Zizou or prime Dinho. Close to impossible vs impossible, there's the difference in level for you.

I mentioned nothing about speed. Seriously since when was Zizou ever renowned for his speed? These guys are just better with the ball, slow or fast. That's all there is to it.

Trapping wise yes Iniesta is universally accepted as being superior. He is just magic. You can immediately tell when he instantly kills a ball coming in at speed, just like the aforementioned players. Xavi is great at this of course but sometimes he needs an extra touch to control the ball and other times it doesn't land as close to him as you'd like for someone who you deem deserves maxed technique.

Just because you have trouble reading doesn't mean you have to go stuff words in my mouth. Please tell me when I ever compared Xavi to Scholes in that post? All I meant was in their own ways, they are not properly represented in Pes 2010.

Now you're contradicting yourself because you didn't bring agility into the picture and just decided to take the lazy route and max his dribbling. Nothing would've been wrong if you wanted 95 dribbling accuracy. In the latest Pes 2010 dlc Konami actually gave him 95 which makes him great to control but because the game is flawed you'll lose the ball with him much more often than you should and maxing his dribbling won't erase that flaw. Don't know why they nerfed him to 93 according to that pic but it's still a very high stat and imo judging from the gamescon videos it's enough to allow him to keep the ball very well.

So decide already is it 95 or 99? Because in the Pes world that's a huge jump. Just from seeing you say 95 or 99 means from now on there's no need for me to take anything you say seriously anymore.

Actually, I have seen Zinedine Zidane and Ronaldinho loosing more balls than Xavi, they play in more advanced positions and take more risks and they loosed the ball more often.

Ronaldinho is not someone I would describe as reliable on the ball, I would never use him to play the Xavi role, I would use him in an advanced area where his tricks and positioning won't cost me a goal.

Zidane was never renowned for his speed yet how quick was he really, I laugh whenever I hear people describing him as a slow player: Xavi is slow, Valderrama was slow, Riquelme is slow, Zidane was deceptive and was a lot faster than people give him credit.

95 to 99 a huge jump? I do not think so... you have a right to an opinion but to suggest that my opinion does not counts is condescending as well as plain stupid. I have experimented with the stats, I do not see any significant difference between 95 and 99.

Iniesta is universally considered superior? Then why does Barcelona suffers more when Xavi is not playing? and why can Barcelona manage very well without Iniesta? Iniesta is faster and perhaps stronger, he can dribble past players on a consistent basis.

Oh, he is superior trapping wise, according to you; yet, I was not talking about trapping was I? You could also say that Iniesta has a superior shooting technique...

When did I ever contradicted myself? please explain as I find your claim extremely ridiculous. By the way, I do not give a shit if you take me serious or not.

RAMAXWY

24-08-2010, 11:09

the fact that you can't really shield the ball in football games is the problem guys.
because there is a difference between shielding and dribbling.
if that stat was available in a football game i think it would do players like Xavi a huge favor.
we try and make up for that by increasing the dribbling stat which does help but doesn't tell the whole story if you ask me.
Xavi for example isn't known for his dribbling because he doesn't go at people with the ball he just doesn't take them on or rarely, but he is known for protecting the ball and avoiding challenges very well,which at the present time isn't possible in a football game.

btw guys i think its a very interesting topic we got her, so keep the new stats coming but please keep it nice and friendly we don't have to get angry just because we disagree.
we are PES players and have to defend our taste all the time especially to those who love football but don't really know what its about so we must be used to this by now.

can someone PLEASE just post the stats because i cant seem to open the images.
can i get the stats for vieira,yaya toure, khedira and ozil please

floriank90

24-08-2010, 11:38

agüero (more or less the best striker in pes 2010) would be interesting...

flavio_sk

24-08-2010, 15:40

More stats:

http://img841.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=aguero1d.jpg

Aguero, Drogba, Pato, Ronaldinho and Villa.

Stormrider

24-08-2010, 15:52

Actually, I have seen Zinedine Zidane and Ronaldinho loosing more balls than Xavi, they play in more advanced positions and take more risks and they loosed the ball more often.

Ronaldinho is not someone I would describe as reliable on the ball, I would never use him to play the Xavi role, I would use him in an advanced area where his tricks and positioning won't cost me a goal.

Haha if Xavi played in an advanced position he would also take more risks and lose the ball more often. It's just part of the job. The tricks part is pretty funny because it's so irrelevant. Even Cristiano Ronaldo rarely does a trick in that area of the pitch. At least you got the positioning right as Zizou and Dinho can't defend for shit and their aggressive attacking nature means they'll often vacate their role. They are great at beating their man and good at scoring which is why they play further up the field and would be a complete waste as a CM. They are just not suited for the role for reasons other than tricks, just as how Xavi and Pirlo are not suited for AMF for various reasons other than tricks and speed. There was no need to bring this up really as even a 5 year old would understand the risks involved when using Ronaldinho as a CM.

Zidane was never renowned for his speed yet how quick was he really, I laugh whenever I hear people describing him as a slow player: Xavi is slow, Valderrama was slow, Riquelme is slow, Zidane was deceptive and was a lot faster than people give him credit.

Zizou was definitely not quick in his latter days. In his younger days he was alright but definitely not something to get excited over and has nothing to do with his game at all. Being fast has nothing at all to do with being accurate at dribbling so why keep beating that drum?

95 to 99 a huge jump? I do not think so... you have a right to an opinion but to suggest that my opinion does not counts is condescending as well as plain stupid. I have experimented with the stats, I do not see any significant difference between 95 and 99.

Sorry this is not an opinion it is a fact that came from Mr. Seabass himself. There is a very noticeable difference when trapping with a 95 and trapping with Zizou and Maradona. Been common knowledge in the Pes world for many years now.

Iniesta is universally considered superior? Then why does Barcelona suffers more when Xavi is not playing? and why can Barcelona manage very well without Iniesta? Iniesta is faster and perhaps stronger, he can dribble past players on a consistent basis.

Oh, he is superior trapping wise, according to you; yet, I was not talking about trapping was I? You could also say that Iniesta has a superior shooting technique...

Barca suffers more because they're missing Xavi's pinpoint passing? vision? tactical awareness? As if his dribbling is what tears up defences :rolleyes:. And yes you were talking about trapping because trapping = technique.

When did I ever contradicted myself? please explain as I find your claim extremely ridiculous. By the way, I do not give a shit if you take me serious or not.

By saying I only focused on one technique in terms of dribbling ability and yet you were the one who only relied on dribbling accuracy and top speed :erm:. At least I understand there's more to ball retention than just dribbling accuracy and speed alone and you don't need to give Xavi max dribbling to effectively represent him dribbling wise as long as the video game has a good engine. And yeah you should give a shit because by me not taking you seriously, you're just wasting your time replying to me.

the fact that you can't really shield the ball in football games is the problem guys.
because there is a difference between shielding and dribbling.
if that stat was available in a football game i think it would do players like Xavi a huge favor.
we try and make up for that by increasing the dribbling stat which does help but doesn't tell the whole story if you ask me.
Xavi for example isn't known for his dribbling because he doesn't go at people with the ball he just doesn't take them on or rarely, but he is known for protecting the ball and avoiding challenges very well,which at the present time isn't possible in a football game.

btw guys i think its a very interesting topic we got her, so keep the new stats coming but please keep it nice and friendly we don't have to get angry just because we disagree.
we are PES players and have to defend our taste all the time especially to those who love football but don't really know what its about so we must be used to this by now.

can someone PLEASE just post the stats because i cant seem to open the images.
can i get the stats for vieira,yaya toure, khedira and ozil please

Thank you someone who actually has a clue without having to boast about their super awesome 'football knowledge'.

floriank90

24-08-2010, 16:51

the villa stats are a bad joke (didn't they watch the World Cup!!!), ronaldinho seems to be a bit overrated...
what about gerrard, torres, ferdinand, ribéry and robben?
i hope at least robben got a fine stat boost...
thx for all the stats by the way (keep going :D:P)

RAMAXWY

24-08-2010, 18:21

Amateur

24-08-2010, 18:31

Amateur

24-08-2010, 19:02

Haha if Xavi played in an advanced position he would also take more risks and lose the ball more often. It's just part of the job. The tricks part is pretty funny because it's so irrelevant. Even Cristiano Ronaldo rarely does a trick in that area of the pitch. At least you got the positioning right as Zizou and Dinho can't defend for shit and their aggressive attacking nature means they'll often vacate their role. They are great at beating their man and good at scoring which is why they play further up the field and would be a complete waste as a CM. They are just not suited for the role for reasons other than tricks, just as how Xavi and Pirlo are not suited for AMF for various reasons other than tricks and speed. There was no need to bring this up really as even a 5 year old would understand the risks involved when using Ronaldinho as a CM.

Zizou was definitely not quick in his latter days. In his younger days he was alright but definitely not something to get excited over and has nothing to do with his game at all. Being fast has nothing at all to do with being accurate at dribbling so why keep beating that drum?

Sorry this is not an opinion it is a fact that came from Mr. Seabass himself. There is a very noticeable difference when trapping with a 95 and trapping with Zizou and Maradona. Been common knowledge in the Pes world for many years now.

Barca suffers more because they're missing Xavi's pinpoint passing? vision? tactical awareness? As if his dribbling is what tears up defences :rolleyes:. And yes you were talking about trapping because trapping = technique.

By saying I only focused on one technique in terms of dribbling ability and yet you were the one who only relied on dribbling accuracy and top speed :erm:. At least I understand there's more to ball retention than just dribbling accuracy and speed alone and you don't need to give Xavi max dribbling to effectively represent him dribbling wise as long as the video game has a good engine. And yeah you should give a shit because by me not taking you seriously, you're just wasting your time replying to me.

Thank you someone who actually has a clue without having to boast about their super awesome 'football knowledge'.

Your whole argument is redundant and revolves around false things that you created yourself, allow me to briefly discuss just how REDUNDANT your argument is,

1st REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''At least I understand there's more to ball retention than just dribbling accuracy and speed alone''

When did I ever say or suggested that dribbling and acceleration was everything?

In fact, if you take a look at your argument, you would see that I was the one who actually put in WORDS that you need to take everything into account.

Then you repeated more or less what I initially said... LMAO... So you are arguing against something that you invented yourself as I never said nor suggested such a thing.

You are very biased and condescending and incompetent.

2nd REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''The tricks part is pretty funny because it's so irrelevant.''

Leo Messi and Ronaldinho, both play in advanced positions: one uses pure and simple and time-efficient skills similar to George Best, the other uses razzle dazzle time-consuming BS all the time.

This affects how the team functions and therefore how the team works: TRICKS are important... and there are hours of footage to support this claim as a FACT.

I suppose this is the reason for why Konami decided to put a ''Trickster'' card, for players who are known for their tricks. Maybe, perhaps...

You are entitle to your opinion, just don't go around preaching about your opinion as if it was a FACT.

3rd REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''Being fast has nothing at all to do with being accurate at dribbling so why keep beating that drum?''

Then why mention Zinedine Zidane, Ronaldinho, Diego Maradona, Pele? None of them was a slow player, all of them had very good acceleration and would run past players.

Ronaldinho of all people... his sudden loss of pace affected him in a very big way, the first couple of years after he lost his pace he was loosing a lot of balls and was playing poorly and was ultimately kicked out of Barcelona. He is now finding his feet, but his sudden drop in pace certainly affected his play because it obviously affects dribbling.

For instance, in his prime Ronaldinho was such a great player when running at his top speed and going at players; however, Ronaldinho was never as good as Xavi at pure and simple slow-dribbling.

This is where the Dribbling Accuracy stat proves to be outdated and generic, as speed-dribbling and slow-dribbling are very different skills, yet we do not have a stat for shielding technique do we?

So, poor acceleration with great dribbling ability, in my opinion, is the better way of creating or mimicking individuals like Xavi Hernandez.

As for Zidane,

Zidane was very fast in terms of acceleration but an overall lazy and perfectionist footballer, he could take you on and do the roulette or a step over and he would beat you and accelerate past you, but he only did that like 4 or 6 times per game; you can have 99 in terms of DRIBBLING ACCURACY but if you have an ACCELERATION of 60 you will not dribble like Zidane.

I remind you that YOU were the person who mentioned Zidane: why did you even mentioned Zidane when it added absolutely no weight to your redundant argument? I cannot read whatever is in your mind, I can only read the words, I suggest you write a proper argument the next time you want to debate with anyone.

And Ronaldinho was a very poor choice... he is the prime example of what you are denying.

You seem to contradict yourself in many ways.

4th REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''At least I understand there's more to ball retention than just dribbling accuracy and speed alone''

I never suggested that dribbling accuracy and acceleration was everything... it is not my fault that you formulate your arguments based on things that you imagine as I never said nor suggested what you claim I said or suggested.

On paper, I was the one who initially mentioned that there is more to dribbling... And now you are repeating the same BS and trying to lecture me about something fucking obvious... LMAO

5th REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''Barca suffers more because they're missing Xavi's pinpoint passing? vision? tactical awareness? As if his dribbling is what tears up defences''

Sebastian Veron had vision, yet if you pressured him it was quite easy to force him to loose possession.

On the other hand, Xavi Hernandez can hold on to the ball even when he is surrounded by packs of two or three opponents, he will not loose possession, he is small and has a very exquisite touch on the ball which allows him to create play in very tight spaces; and in doing so, frustrate the opponent, who can only kick him in order to break down the play.

Xavi holds the ball 50% of the time for Barcelona, vision and passing are essential; however, you clearly lack common sense because you cannot see just how great Xavi is on the ball and how important his on-the-ball ability is for both Barcelona and Spain...

If Xavi was faster he would dribble past people on a much more consistent basis, but speed and acceleration is something you are born with.

6th REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''And yes you were talking about trapping because trapping = technique.''

No, I never mentioned the word ''trapping'', I suggest you learn how to read: I said DRIBBLING ACCURACY and ACCELERATION.

You were the one who brought Iniesta into the argument and talked about his trapping aka technique... And now you are saying that I brought it up... LMAO

You are imagining things again.

7th REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''Sorry this is not an opinion it is a fact that came from Mr. Seabass himself. There is a very noticeable difference when trapping with a 95 and trapping with Zizou and Maradona. Been common knowledge in the Pes world for many years now.''

Mr. Seabass also said that PES10 would be an awesome game... that wasn't true was it?

95 to 99, I do not care about whatever Seabass said; I certainly do not see nor feel any big difference between 95 and 99, even more so when the acceleration of the individual in question is of 60.

Perhaps you were not aware of it, but it is a very well known fact that the ''player individuality'' in PES is not very good anymore... players with 80 doing incredible things, Theo Walcot consistently sending defense splitting passes even though his passing stats are shit; been common knowledge in the PES world since PES made the jump (?) to next-gen consoles (now current-gen consoles).

Perhaps you still play PES5 or PES6?

You could actually tell the difference between 95 and 99; however, PES08, PES09, PES10, there is barely any difference at all between 95 and 99; it's more or less the same identical thing.

Yet another one of your so-called ''facts'' that in FACT is not a fact. You really think a lot about yourself and your opinion.

8th REDUNDANT point:

Stormrider: ''And yeah you should give a shit because by me not taking you seriously, you're just wasting your time replying to me.''

Yeah because I was the person who created a debate out of thin air? I was the person who initially responded to a comment that was not directed at anyone in particular?

I was merely sharing my opinion of how (in my opinion) Xavi Hernandez should be rated in PES 2010: 99 or 95 dribble accuracy, with 60 in acceleration.

I was not creating any type of debate, just sharing my opinion; it was YOU who responded to me... I am merely responding to the person who initially responded to my words.

Here is what I initially stated:

''Xavi Hernandez should have 99 in Dribbling Accuracy and 99 in Technique and like an 85 in dribbling speed, but with a 60 in Acceleration; I have experimented with the stats and I feel that's the better way of creating someone similar to Xavi Hernandez.''

Here is YOUR responce to my well intended non-boasting comment:

''That makes Xavi better than Zidane who had something like 97/98 . Are you 1 of the admins on PSD? . For someone who is constantly boasting about their football knowledge I thought you'd have more sense than that.''

That makes Xavi better than Zidane... your words, not mine. And then you say that: ''At least I understand there's more to ball retention than just dribbling accuracy and speed alone''

You seem to contradict yourself in many ways, which makes your argument entirely redundant... to say the least. This can happen when people argue with the intent that you argued.

Anyways,

This is the last time I waste my time with such a disgusting writer, there's no point in communicating with someone as condescending and as biased as you. Your argument is redundant and you fail to see why I find it so redundant.

Stormrider

25-08-2010, 05:23

DunkTheJunk

25-08-2010, 15:35

OMG, PES Agression stat has NOTHING to do with what agression literally means! In PES, Agression determines how high a player sit on the field and how frequent they attack.

You should read the stat description in the game.

Chill out. Well pes is stupid then.

Stormrider

25-08-2010, 17:02

More stats:

http://img841.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=aguero1d.jpg

Aguero, Drogba, Pato, Ronaldinho and Villa.

Funky they upped Ronaldinho but don't you guys think his passing is a tad overrated now? Never thought of him as a red passer. And what on earth did they do to David Villa? Boggles my mind how they decide to butcher him after another typically great performance at the World Cup.

Amateur

25-08-2010, 17:09

Haha all year all I hear from you are the words redundant and condescending. Not just to me but to every poster that happens to disagree with your self proclaimed awesomeness and trust me there were lots. Boring. It's hilarious for you to preach about being condescending when you happen to be the biggest example :laugh:. No one has been able to have a decent conversation with you on these boards. That really tells the story. That post, just like most of your posts, is just a whole lot of blah blah blah. Please do me a favour and don't go back on your words because you bore me.

Yeah, I suggest you take a second look at your words, you were redundant and condescending and incompetent.

This is what I initially said:

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Xavi Hernandez should have 99 in Dribbling Accuracy and 99 in Technique and like an 85 in dribbling speed, but with a 60 in Acceleration; I have experimented with the stats and I feel that's the better way of creating someone similar to Xavi Hernandez.
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Here is your response:

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That makes Xavi better than Zidane who had something like 97/98 . Are you 1 of the admins on PSD? . For someone who is constantly boasting about their football knowledge I thought you'd have more sense than that.
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I was simply giving a suggestion that in my opinion works better than the PSD stats which are based on running; and you respond by saying that I like to boast and that I also lack some type of sense...

Next time you want to argue with someone, do try to be a little more competent and consistent with your points; for someone who talks about sense, you seem to lack common sense.

Also, I would suggest that you take it a little easier with your opinion, you think I am an asshole, that's cool, you are entitled to your opinion; however, does it have anything to do with the product in question?

I don't know about other people, but personally I just don't give a shit about whatever you think about myself; I don't come here to judge people nor do I like other people judging me based on what I think about a video game.

By the way, when did I ever "go back on my words"argument wise? The only contradiction was that I said it would be the last time I wasted my time on you and yet, here I am again wasting my time again. But beisdes that, I have not contradicted myself in any way regarding PES.

You don't know how to start a proper argument and you are even worst at finishing them... you truly are incompetent when you argue.

As for conversations, I have had a few good and brief conversations with PES fans on other topics; however, I do not see the point of conversations about PES as I find it extremely boring and monotonous.

Your posts, like most fan-boys posts, are just completely redundant because you have created an argument out of thin air and you are accusing myself for things that I never said.

You wanted to have a go at me because you do not like Amateur; as a result, your argument had a lot to do with myself and little to do with PES, as every PES related thing you said was obvious and redundant and condescending.

I don't have a grudge against anyone, I'm just talking about a video game, I suggest you judge my opinion as opposed to reiterating how much you dislike me.

fick

25-08-2010, 17:12

*bing-bong*

This is a public service announcement for Stormrider & Amateur

Wind your neck's in gentlemen & play nice. Consider this your one and only warning.

Thank you

floriank90

25-08-2010, 17:13

even villa's shooting accuracy... that's ridiculous! :(

Stormrider

25-08-2010, 17:14

Anyways,

This is the last time I waste my time with such a disgusting writer, there's no point in communicating with someone as condescending and as biased as you. Your argument is redundant and you fail to see why I find it so redundant.

:lol2: now go away already. Apparently you don't even understand the meaning of the word last. I'm not even going to bother reading that post.

fick

25-08-2010, 17:22

:lol2: now go away already. Apparently you don't even understand the meaning of the word last. I'm not even going to bother reading that post.

And apparently you don't understand the meaning of one and only warning.

Have a day off to consider your ineptitude.

Blaz00r

25-08-2010, 19:45

More stats:

http://img841.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=aguero1d.jpg

Aguero, Drogba, Pato, Ronaldinho and Villa.

You do know these stats are from the beta and are the same as the latest PES 2010 update (which means they have nothing to do with 2011's real stats)?

tinsma_7

26-08-2010, 12:38

Any chance of some from germany national team?

aogo, badstuber,marin, muller & khedira

and any other that's different from pes2010 (if the same don't bother)

espcially badstuber and aogo that AREN'T in pes2010

cheers

MysteryMan

26-08-2010, 16:31

Stormrider

26-08-2010, 20:35

I don't really know what your argument is Storm , but Amateur is right about one thing , when Xavi has the ball its almost impossible to take it away from him, but in PES that seems to be too easy in the sense that someone with a big body balance can simply overpower him to the ball easly since xavi is slow and he can catch him quite fast, so theres some stat missing here because thats very unrealistic.

I already mentioned the flaw in Pes 2010 that allows weak and slow players like Xavi to lose the ball far too easily to the bigger fellows without any help from the ref whatsoever and I completely agree with you it's very unrealistic. Giving him 99 is not going to mask that flaw because he'll still be bulldozed over the moment anyone comes within breathing distance of him. In Pes 2010 he has 95 dribbling which is a very high rating, making him 1 of the best in game but because of a gameplay flaw, if the player is neither fast nor strong, dribbling accuracy doesn't mean much. Remember that Drogba is also incredibly hard to take the ball from but that doesn't mean we need to suddenly give him a high dribble rating. When it comes to ball possession, dribble accuracy alone just doesn't paint the whole picture.

But if you watch some of the Pes 2011 gamescon footage I think you'll find that things seem much better this time around and I have a suspicion that in the right hands Xavi will be 1 of the best at holding the ball without having to resort to giving him 99 dribble accuracy.

You do know these stats are from the beta and are the same as the latest PES 2010 update (which means they have nothing to do with 2011's real stats)?

I'm using the latest Pes update (1.07) and the stats are not the same. Ronaldinho is a lot better in that image and David Villa is a lot better in Pes 2010 (95 attack and 95 shot accuracy vs 92 and 90 in that image). Let's hope those stats are from before the world cup and things will look better in the final game but judging from Konami's track record in the stats department I'm not very optimistic.

Blaz00r

26-08-2010, 20:56

I see...Well, I compared Giovinco and some other Juve players and they all were the same as 2010's 1.07, I guess they changed some players, but I'm pretty sure these won't be 2011 stats...

armi_10

26-08-2010, 21:52

can u show pazzani & maicon stats please.

armi_10

26-08-2010, 22:01

have u seen ozil fabiano & forlan stats

floriank90

27-08-2010, 14:08

what about robben and ribery?

Amateur

27-08-2010, 20:27

I already mentioned the flaw in Pes 2010 that allows weak and slow players like Xavi to lose the ball far too easily to the bigger fellows without any help from the ref whatsoever and I completely agree with you it's very unrealistic. Giving him 99 is not going to mask that flaw because he'll still be bulldozed over the moment anyone comes within breathing distance of him. In Pes 2010 he has 95 dribbling which ,is a very high rating, making him 1 of the best in game but because of a gameplay flaw, if the player is neither fast nor strong, dribbling accuracy doesn't mean much. Remember that Drogba is also incredibly hard to take the ball from but that doesn't mean we need to suddenly give him a high dribble rating. When it comes to ball possession, dribble accuracy alone just doesn't paint the whole picture.

But if you watch some of the Pes 2011 gamescon footage I think you'll find that things seem much better this time around and I have a suspicion that in the right hands Xavi will be 1 of the best at holding the ball without having to resort to giving him 99 dribble accuracy.

I agree with that,

I'm just playing along with the limitations of the game, and maxing his dribbling accuracy to 99 whilst dropping his acceleration to 60, in my opinion, make him feel more like the real Xavi.

That said, it is most certainly a gameplay flaw: the game really needs MANUAL SHIELDING and MANUAL DRIBBLING.

I never said that dribbling accuracy and acceleration is everything. In addition, be it fast or strong, small or slow, the flaw is very general because it is basically impossible to actually dribble with the ball; all we ever do in PES is run with the ball. Even when you have Leo Messi, it just doesn't feels like dribbling, it doesn't feels manual nor precise enough, it is impossible to actually dribble on the spot, it is too easy to run through everyone and score an easy goal.

As for PES 2011, I still have not seen anything that suggests that players like Xavi will be more useful in dribbling terms. The freedom when passing the ball will obviously make players like Xavi more useful, but I think that in terms of dribbling and shielding the ball, that slow dribblers like Xavi will not feel like themselves due to the flaw.

But hopefully, my impression is wrong.

floriank90

31-08-2010, 17:52

can anyone post more stats :P??

tinsma_7

31-08-2010, 18:36

can anyone post more stats :P??

totally agree, this is a thread about stats in pes2011 not the stats you think the players should have....

I for one only use stats from konami, not because i agree, but because it feels right to me.

i was looking foward to aogo and badstuber so i could make them in pes2010 until pes11 comes out...

zizou4ever

31-08-2010, 18:42

Yes, but if I correctly recall, last year's demo stats were not representative of the final version's.

I believe the stats we have seen in beta MLO are outdated.

tinsma_7

31-08-2010, 19:05

Yes, but if I correctly recall, last year's demo stats were not representative of the final version's.

I believe the stats we have seen in beta MLO are outdated.

i don't mind if this 2 players are outdated as they aren't in pes2010...

AOGO, BADSTUBER, please

by what i've read the top 2 left-backs in germany (that are german) (or so the WC10 comentators said so...)

maybe muller and khedira too, but i'd settle for the other 2

franchise

31-08-2010, 19:13

Those David Villa stats :shocking:

floriank90

07-09-2010, 23:35

hopefully now as the demo for SCEE’s PS+ members is released we will see more stats... :D

solid ss

08-09-2010, 03:48

Xabi 99

caduroxbr

10-09-2010, 02:01

This stats suck.
Please Konami review then.

Brainoperation

10-09-2010, 17:23

Müller
HS78/MS76/AMF77/OMF73 beide Seiten
80 Angriff
55 Verteidigung
78 Balance
85 Ausdauer
82 Schnelligkeit
81 Beschleunigung
85 Reaktionsvermögen
78 Beweglichkeit
81 Dribbelstärke
82 Dribbelgeschwindigkeit
79 Kurzpassgenauigkeit
82 Kurzpassgeschwindigkeit
75 Langpassgenauigkeit
77 Langpassgeschwindigkeit
83 Schussgenauigkeit
77 Schusskraft
84 Schusstechnik
70 Freistoßgenauigkeit
71 Effet
75 Kopfballgenauigkeit
78 Sprungkraft
82 Technik
78 Aggresivität
75 Zähigkeit (Mentalität)
50 Torwartfähigkeit
82 Teamwork-Stärke
6 Tagesform
5 Gen. Schw. Fuß
5 Häuf. Schw. Fuß
B Verletzanfälligkeit
P09 Rückpass P15 Freilaufen S01 Tor Durchbruch S15 Schultertäuschfähigkeit

Badstuber
IV71/LV68
63-76-82-77-72-67-75-71-74-65-75-80-84-85-64-83-64-75-84-75-79-73-65-70-50-75-5-3-4-A

Contento
LV75

67-60-74-82-81-83-77-80-75-80-73-71-72-72-63-75-64-65-72-70-72-77-72-67-50-68-4-4-4-B

worm

10-09-2010, 17:31

0zz

10-09-2010, 17:46

What about Zlatan Ibrahimović...... Overated every year

I agree with u man! He's shot accuracy should be no more than 70!!! No wonder why Barca sold him...

floriank90

10-09-2010, 18:15

did robben at least get a decent stat boost?

StringerBell

10-09-2010, 18:42

Yeah thats what I'm wondering oh and is Alaba on Bayern?

tinsma_7

11-09-2010, 12:06

solid ss

13-09-2010, 06:06

forlan,sniejder,robben,pedo,bo jan,kakuta,ivanovich,malouda,e ssein,muller,ozil,khedira
should be boosted 87+

while (kaka,ibra,gerrard) should be decreased due to their poor results

StringerBell

13-09-2010, 06:35

Thats all what the condition stat is for. I REALLY want to see some sort of increase for Ayew (Ghana international) hell the whole Ghana team needs to get an increase.

YassirX

13-09-2010, 09:04

Robben has 91 overall rating, he is pretty good now. Alaba is part of bayern munich but without a licensed face.

YassirX

13-09-2010, 09:04

:realmad:

YassirX

13-09-2010, 09:05

:realmad:

osday

13-09-2010, 14:45

Barca & Bayern stats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw8f7-RfoL4

WTF:realmad: rating of Olic is 68?!

Somebody in Konami is really brain dead.:no:

pes89

13-09-2010, 16:31

Olic will only say 68 because he is picked in the CF position when his best position will be SS ;)

CDDRodrigo

13-09-2010, 16:52

Terrible stats. I'll be editing them straight away on the 30th.

osday

13-09-2010, 18:26

Olic will only say 68 because he is picked in the CF position when his best position will be SS ;)

Ok, but i think he should have other stats increased as well.
His current ones are same as in pes 2010 and significantly lower than in PES 2009.
He had a really good last season, specially in Champions League.

His shots, heading and body balance stats are really low, in 70s
He deserves top speed and stamina 90+, body balance around 80,
attack around 85, and dribble speed 85+ not 78 for example.:)

Emmason

13-09-2010, 18:45

deco (91) needs a BIG decrease, kalou (76) needs an increase.

crls51

14-09-2010, 05:45

it sucks that the player stats depend on the team they are, take a look at the ucranian df before and after being signed by barcelona..

Müller2010

14-09-2010, 07:32

it sucks that the player stats depend on the team they are, take a look at the ucranian df before and after being signed by barcelona..

Copy that!

Just compare Lahm (83) stats to Daniel Alves (94) - such a joke!
I dont even think Alves is quite as good as Lahm !!!
Olic 68 in overall rating??? Do Japanese hate Croatians:shocking:??

Gomez 77? Bayern paid 35 mill. € for him...:realmad:

Klose 86 - thats supportable- but remember hes one of the biggest goalgetters in history of world cup...think 90 would be more fair...

Ibrahimovic 97...hahahahaha just no comment:no:

I dont give up my hopings that this arent the final stats!!!

Daniel Alves 94!...just dont get it - so so overrated:angry:

Zardo

17-09-2010, 17:54

Copy that!

Just compare Lahm (83) stats to Daniel Alves (94) - such a joke!
I dont even think Alves is quite as good as Lahm !!!
Olic 68 in overall rating??? Do Japanese hate Croatians:shocking:??

Gomez 77? Bayern paid 35 mill. € for him...:realmad:

Klose 86 - thats supportable- but remember hes one of the biggest goalgetters in history of world cup...think 90 would be more fair...

Ibrahimovic 97...hahahahaha just no comment:no:

I dont give up my hopings that this arent the final stats!!!

Daniel Alves 94!...just dont get it - so so overrated:angry:

Im with you.. stats need to be overlook URGENTLY before the updates are coming out this year.. I cant handle that so many good low profile players have stats that you just cant use them:ninja:

Foxstar1

19-09-2010, 12:43

1 player that had a good World Cup and that I am looking forward to seeing is Mesut Ozil.Very creative and exciting with good positional sense.I think his drive or stamina ain't great but is sure to become a star in the game and the real world.

ath007

19-09-2010, 20:06

Kaka is cleary a hugely talented player, and despite having a poor time since he moved to Madrid, is still a world class attacking midfielder. But anyone who would compare him to Zizou is a moron. He's not in the same league as the Frenchman.

totally agree with you.
Kaka is not over rated.. its the same thing that Berbatov has been going through his first sessions at United. Kaka hasn't mixed well into Real Madrid yet..bad times..
He is sick with talent though..

Dabeeds

20-09-2010, 00:18

Come on ppl, konani's stats are ALWAYS a joke. Shit, i'm american and it's even obvious to me.

Müller2010

28-09-2010, 06:12

http://www.videogameszone.de/Pro-Evolution-Soccer-2011-PS3-234159/News/PES-2011-Alle-Spieler-und-Werte-von-Manchester-United-Chelsea-und-Inter-Mailand-775662/galerie/1437269/#tp

julio cesar 97 in reaction...tzzz never ever
lucio 94 in defence, just because hes now at inter - at his bayern days he always had 88...a joke
samuel 94 too...hahahahahahaha ( for me he is a good 86!)
sneijder rating is ok - he was absolutely brillant in cl
eto 94??? ... for me he decreased last season, maybe a 88 in my opinion
milito`s 94 is fine, because hes a real goalgetter
davis suazo`s stats are way too high for sure!!!

what do u think? Anybody got more stats like bremen or something??

TorresYNWA

28-09-2010, 14:29

Can someone give me the stats or just overalls of Liverpool players.

philoumex

20-10-2010, 11:13

stats from Philippe Mexes please!!!

Du 1337

20-10-2010, 12:12

I like Bosingwa his stats. They r better than Ashley Cole, lawl...
His last performance was in the CL and he was very good there!
Guess they kept those stats since he was injured after that... They did the same for Kaka :) Funny

TriceOzz

09-01-2011, 00:36

Hello I need original stats from Adam Johnson the crack of Manchester City

Thanks man