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Doesn't seem to be a thread on this surprisingly. Guess people didn't know if it was ever going to appear as it's now 6 years in the making.
But November 3rd (give or take a day worldwide) is the European release date.
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Some of the features:
- Car damage(!)
- 1000 cars
- 16 player online
- World Rally Championship licence
- NASCAR licence
- Go-karting
- Top Gear test track
Personally, I've never been a big Gran Turismo nut. I have number 3, but I was never particularly good. I've improved at racing games since though, so maybe this is something for me to consider buying. Especially if it is as good as it looks.
I'm not a big racing game fan, but I had a lot of fun in two player mode with GT2 (the best one, imo), GT3 and the Burnout series. Never got around to getting (or even playing) GT4 and I never got into the Need For Speed series.
This one looks fantastic though. Too good to pass on I think.
I wasn't even sure if this was released or not. They've taken their bloody time.
Expect to see huge limited edition versions and collectors editions available, along with a 900 page strategy guide and £50 worth of downloadable content. :lol:
Still though, I've no doubt the game itself will be nothing short of stunning, at least visually and the feel of it also. I absolutely loved GT1, 2 and most of all GT3. Me and my friends used to play it constantly, the two best feelings on GT? Completing all the licenses was one, and winning a Polyphony was the other. Unfortunately though I just couldn't get into GT4 that much, it almost felt as though the soul of the game was missing. Don't get me wrong, I still played it for a good while and enjoyed it, but it just wasn't a patch on GT3 despite having more tracks, cars, licenses etc.
It's a shame I'm an Xbox 360 owner, but I might be able to persuade my brother into buying this game for his PS3 (he lives away but no doubt we'll all get together for the Christmas month and have a great time).
Original?
18-09-2010, 20:54
It's a shame I'm an Xbox 360 owner, but I might be able to persuade my brother into buying this game for his PS3 (he lives away but no doubt we'll all get together for the Christmas month and have a great time).
You could always admit your mistake and rectify it. ;)
This will be purchased, without hesitation.
I'd forgot about this game which just tells you how many times this has been delayed.
I'll see if I can get this, looks brilliant.
muscularmatt
28-09-2010, 19:28
Yes. This game is gonna fucking own. I've been waiting for it for so long, can anyone think of a disabling disease that you can recover from? Something I can pretend I have when it comes out so I don't have to go to work.
Conjunctivitis?
Fuck knows man - why don't you just say you're too ill to come in? Say it wouldn't be a good idea as there'd be a high chance people would get it off me? :D
can anyone think of a disabling disease that you can recover from? Something I can pretend I have when it comes out so I don't have to go to work.
Two broken legs? As long as the hands are free...
Must admit I've been waiting some time for this and actually intend to get my Blu-Ray drive repaired during October in readiness.
I've been waiting for this game since GT4 lol. This is the game i'm most looking forward to of all, and I see all other games as just passing time until this baby arrives.
Comtemplating buying a steering wheel and pedals for this one, although i'd have to make a stand myself because I have nowhere to attach it to.
I found this a while back and might do it; http://berserk.org/gt4/
They've delayed it again. :huh:
Foxhound
14-10-2010, 07:15
Man, they're so obsessed with perfection. They should have just release the game. If there's any bugs, just release the patch(es) like normal developers would do.
Nah, I like their style. Make sure the game is in the best possible shape there is, before release.
Even though it is probably less than 30%, you have to remember some people don't have their PS3 online and won't be able to download those update patches.
Gun_Runner
14-10-2010, 12:17
Must say it's been a LONG time coming, don't think I know another game that's been in production this long? Maybe The Getaway for PS3 or something?
Anyway, the weather effects look incredible & I can't wait to play it...only problem is I'll be shuffling between GT5, FIFA 11 & COD:Black Ops! :)
^^^^^
I dont mind having that problem
hywelkidd
08-11-2010, 18:40
Must say it's been a LONG time coming, don't think I know another game that's been in production this long? Maybe The Getaway for PS3 or something?
Anyway, the weather effects look incredible & I can't wait to play it...only problem is I'll be shuffling between GT5, FIFA 11 & COD:Black Ops! :)
They stopped working on the new Getaway a couple of years ago :crymore:
Played a demo of this in 3d yesterday. Was pretty good!
Why is it saying Sully has posted in here when he hasn't? :erm:
Any more news on the release date?
Why is it saying Sully has posted in here when he hasn't? :erm:
:cringe:
Any more news on the release date?
Not really. The game's finished and being stamped on disc. There were rumours of November 27th but that's a Saturday so not altogether accurate rumours. I'm going to stick my neck out and say it will definitely make Christmas.
Oh what da fackkkk. Sully's ninja post.
Yeah I figured they'd definitely try and get it out before christmas. Who have you pre-ordered with? If at all?
There yyou go bub..
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-12-gran-turismo-5-dated
FUCK YEAH!
Really fucking excited now, nice one man.
You soo excited, you mind leaving me a good rep ;)
List of the cars here (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-12-gt5-a-list-of-1031-cars).
Yup, all 1031 of them. :lol:
Think it needs more Nissan Skylines.
You soo excited, you mind leaving me a good rep ;)
I tried, believe me, it wouldn't let me :lol:
List of the cars here (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-12-gt5-a-list-of-1031-cars).
Yup, all 1031 of them. :lol:
Think it needs more Nissan Skylines.
Incredible list.
Have you seen the trophy list?
No probs Dale (Bub).
I may rent this 1st.
Dragonfly
15-11-2010, 13:05
I'm going to wait a couple of months after the game is released. I want to get gamers' reactions to the game before I fork out any money on this.
The Messiah
15-11-2010, 13:52
I'll get this & maybe it will help me stay in. Love the 500+ lap courses. :point:
Bring back Chan laugh!
Dragonfly
15-11-2010, 18:02
:laugh:
That?
The Messiah
15-11-2010, 22:28
:laugh:
That?
Yes but it should be Chan laugh.
http://backseatcuddler.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/600full-jackie-chan.jpg
Dragonfly
16-11-2010, 13:04
Turn that picture into a smiley, like Bill Murray. :point:
Takes an eternity to install.
Dragonfly
23-11-2010, 17:43
My mate got it today, too. Like I said, I'm going to wait for people's impressions on the game.
Gun_Runner
23-11-2010, 21:14
I didn't think it was out until December, I think I'll just wait til Xmas to get it, CoD will keep me occupied til then
StringerBell
24-11-2010, 20:12
I'm looking to buy it but right now everything in America is on sale due to black Friday. Which apparently is a week long event now. Hopefully I can get a good deal on the game though honestly it looks like a full price purchase to me.
The Messiah
24-11-2010, 23:12
I'll exchange CoD for this.
Gun_Runner
25-11-2010, 02:47
That's crazy talk fool!
Just kiddin but are you not enjoying cod? My mate got FIFA 11 as a bday present last month but he's not into football in the slightest so he traded it into asda and got £28 for it..then paid an extra £9 and got GT5, not bad!
Gun_Runner
25-11-2010, 02:48
That's crazy talk fool!
Just kiddin but are you not enjoying cod? My mate got FIFA 11 as a bday present last month but he's not into football in the slightest so he traded it into asda and got £28 for it..then paid an extra £9 and got GT5, not bad!
The Messiah
25-11-2010, 02:49
CoD Black Ops is the biggest let down since Far Cry 2.
Been "off the radar" for a bit, so only saw this on the shelves yesterday! Biting the bullet & getting a new slim, hopefully today, along with GT5...
muscularmatt
25-11-2010, 19:21
The game is awesome, obviously, but I played it for a total of about 6 hours and it killed my PS3. (see the PS3 thread if you care)
The game is awesome, obviously, but I played it for a total of about 6 hours and it killed my PS3. (see the PS3 thread if you care)
Not so sure about awesome. It doesn't seem to have really progressed. The limitation of damage & cockpit driving views is honestly shameful for the amount of time we've had to wait, thus loses many points against Forza 3. Graphically it is no better than Forza & in quite a few places much worse. Lazy updates of old tracks being a big one.
Oh, and don't get me on the loading times. Even with such a huge install (which lies by the way, "3 minutes remaining" it said... it actually lasted 15. The whole install procedure took just over 30 minutes and the track/car load times are still long.
Damn my love of cars.
Gun_Runner
27-11-2010, 13:45
so far I've only driven a banger of a Mazda but I'm not overly impressed...I've yet to see the different weather types etc and obviously I'll enjoy it more when my car doesn't top out at 110mph
Foxhound
01-12-2010, 10:53
Not so sure about awesome. It doesn't seem to have really progressed. The limitation of damage & cockpit driving views is honestly shameful for the amount of time we've had to wait, thus loses many points against Forza 3. Graphically it is no better than Forza & in quite a few places much worse. Lazy updates of old tracks being a big one.
Oh, and don't get me on the loading times. Even with such a huge install (which lies by the way, "3 minutes remaining" it said... it actually lasted 15. The whole install procedure took just over 30 minutes and the track/car load times are still long.
Damn my love of cars.
Agreed with everything, except for the Forza part because I've never played it.
By the way, has anyone managed to get the gold trophy for the first license, last part -- the one where you drive at that oval track. The best I could get is 6th.
Would you guys say this game is more realistic than fun?
Think I'll be getting this with my Christmas money.
Foxhound
01-12-2010, 15:11
Yes.
Would you guys say this game is more realistic than fun?
Think I'll be getting this with my Christmas money.
It's about as realistic as you'll get on the PS3 at present. Only if you stick to the premium cars though... Really need a wheel/pedals to get the most out of though, can be annoyingly twitchy at times with just the stick. Almost tempted to say more twitchy than previous versions... :unsure:
The Messiah
03-12-2010, 23:48
I forgot how tedious these licenses were. I think I'm going to buy a proper steering wheel & chair because it feel jerky steering with the pad.
Pictures of my Swift up later. lol
Gun_Runner
05-12-2010, 08:57
OK so here's another problem I have found with the game...
you need to buy utterly shit cars (eg. Toyota Yaris) to complete certain events, but by the time you've bought it & won it, you end up with less money so it's a pain in the tits!
I'm at a stage now where the only events I can do are the Special events or B events because I just bought an Audi R8 and have done all of the races possible without having to buy a Japanese car from the 70's etc.
Foxhound
05-12-2010, 09:16
I'm bored of it now. When taking licenses, it really annoys me that if the AI bumps on me, I'm the one that gets DQ.
Victim of overhype? Maybe.
Victim of overhype? Maybe.
Undoubtedly.
Gun_Runner
06-12-2010, 11:24
They really didn't help theirselves by taking about 4/5 years to release it...and tbh it's not that different from it's PS2 counterparts.
Foxhound
06-12-2010, 15:42
They really didn't help theirselves by taking about 4/5 years to release it...and tbh it's not that different from it's PS2 counterparts.
Agreed.
By the way, http://kotaku.com/5706840/gran-turismo-5s-balloon-crashes-and-robot-drivers
:laugh: What a joke!
Mr. Perfectionist indeed.
Luckily, I shared the money with my brother, so I'm not that pissed at this purchase.
OK so here's another problem I have found with the game...
you need to buy utterly shit cars (eg. Toyota Yaris) to complete certain events, but by the time you've bought it & won it, you end up with less money so it's a pain in the tits!
I'm at a stage now where the only events I can do are the Special events or B events because I just bought an Audi R8 and have done all of the races possible without having to buy a Japanese car from the 70's etc.
Well you've cleary never played a GT game in your life.
Do you expect to drive your Audi R8 in the Yaris cup???
This has always been a part of Gran Turismo, and it's a way of getting the players not to just choose one super car and play through the whole game, which would be incredibly boring. I can't wait to play this game when I get it for christmas, and one of the things you called a 'problem' is one of these very reasons!
Jonno394
06-12-2010, 18:06
I always thought the whole idea behind gran turismo was building a showroom of cars up to wank over, not just winning races.
Maybe it's just me? Still not picked this up due to funding issues =[
Yeah I agree Dale, that's what I loved about GT on the PS2 - if anything, the less-known, shitty cars are more fun to drive in races.
I, also, am getting this for Christmas :)
I'll be getting a wheel and stand for it aswell, so I can't wait man.
My Mom said to me "Why don't you just learn to drive you fucking wanking bastard", to which I replied, "Mom, fuck off. Also when am I ever going to get the chance to drive a Custom '64 Ford GT40 (or whatever, she wouldn't understand anyway) around the Nurburgring?!"
Silly bitch.
Gun_Runner
06-12-2010, 23:03
Well you've cleary never played a GT game in your life.
Do you expect to drive your Audi R8 in the Yaris cup???
This has always been a part of Gran Turismo, and it's a way of getting the players not to just choose one super car and play through the whole game, which would be incredibly boring. I can't wait to play this game when I get it for christmas, and one of the things you called a 'problem' is one of these very reasons!
Nothing fun about paying 20,000 credits or whatever for a Yaris, then winning 6,000 for winning it.
I'm at a point where there's literally nothing else I can do unless I get rid of my cars in the garage and buy more shiters - which is a vicious circle because if I do that, I don't actually win enough credits to buy more cars.
FLAW
TheAlchemist
06-12-2010, 23:33
Do the special races (go karting, nascar thing, top gear test track).
You don't need a car for these races
From memory there used to always be one real easy money-spinning race on each version. Not sure what it is on GT5 as I've not played it enough yet. Not having cash issues myself mind you as I tend to sell the cars I don't like as soon as I've used them.
The Messiah
06-12-2010, 23:47
fick did you get a steering wheel? Have you learned how to get pictures of you car yet?
No, steering wheel is looking like an christmas purchase...& not yet on the pics. It was easy from Forza, but not sure on GT5. Might boot it up in a mo for another try.
Right, figured something out on the photo's...
Only premium cars can be used with the photo mode on the GT mode home page (box to the right of the used car dealerships). Standard cars have to be snapped in replay mode using the photo mode option available during said replay.
Once your pic is taken, save it in your photo library. Exit photo/replay mode then go to the library (the camera icon on the left hand side of the GT mode home page)
Highlight car in the photo library, press triangle & select "Export to XMB Photo menu" from the menu. Then you have to quit the game & transfer the image from the XMB photos bit to a mem card to your PC.
Below is my premium '88 Supra taken in photo mode...http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8803/kyotogiono.jpg
... and my standard Mitsu Legnum from replay mode...
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8703/trialmountaincircuitf.jpg
Ali_BWFC
08-12-2010, 10:52
Those photos look very cool. I don't have the game, I may get it at some point. You know the demo they released a few months ago? I found it to be very sluggish, is the actual full game faster than tha?
Blade1889
08-12-2010, 10:53
Nice pics Fick :)
From a purely driving experience, which game do you prefer - Forza 3 or GT 5?
Do you find there's a big difference between each game (Forza and GT) in how the cars handle or are they quite similar.
Those photos look very cool. I don't have the game, I may get it at some point. You know the demo they released a few months ago? I found it to be very sluggish, is the actual full game faster than tha?
Never played the demo so can't say, sorry.
Nice pics Fick :)
From a purely driving experience, which game do you prefer - Forza 3 or GT 5?
Do you find there's a big difference between each game (Forza and GT) in how the cars handle or are they quite similar.
Definately Forza 3. It has shown a significant improvement from 2, both aesthetically and in its play & extras. So GT5 has 4-500 more cars and a greater range, but for me Forza just feels better.
Now if Forza can just create a patch to include weather...
Gun_Runner
08-12-2010, 14:05
I like the camera angle in GT5 where you're in the cockpit of the car, the actual inside of the car's are spot on - they've got the Nissan 350z down to a tee...although it's impossible to drive using that angle if it's raining and someone is in front of you - all you see is road spray
Blade1889
08-12-2010, 15:14
Never played the demo so can't say, sorry.
Definately Forza 3. It has shown a significant improvement from 2, both aesthetically and in its play & extras. So GT5 has 4-500 more cars and a greater range, but for me Forza just feels better.
Now if Forza can just create a patch to include weather...
Great stuff! :)
I've had Forza 3 for about 6 months now and I've only driven about 25% of the cars (About 100) so I feel 400 cars is plenty for me, let alone 1,000+!!
Hopefully Forza 4 will have weather, night driving and a bit of rally. It'd be the perfect game then :D
I like the camera angle in GT5 where you're in the cockpit of the car, the actual inside of the car's are spot on - they've got the Nissan 350z down to a tee...although it's impossible to drive using that angle if it's raining and someone is in front of you - all you see is road spray
That's my favourite driving view, which is why the whole standard/premium thing was so frustrating. Just feels lazy.
Hopefully Forza 4 will have weather, night driving and a bit of rally. It'd be the perfect game then :D
Here's hoping!
Got this game for Christmas and not been able to play it yet.
When I put the disc in to play, it asks me to download the latest update [1.0.5] which is 600mb roughly. So I go to download it and takes fucking forever, before stopping and giving me this message..
'An error occured during the download operation (80710723).'
I've tried this update several times, rebooted the PS3 and router as it tells me to do in the suggested actions, still no luck. Last time I tried, got up to 22% after about 2 hours :faceplm:
There's no problems with my internet connection on all my other games. No problem downloading demos :no:
At the moment the only reason I can think of, as to why this is happening, is because the servers are overloaded and the demand from people all over the world is too much.
Is there a way of sorting this, or is it a case of just patience and persistence?
I haven't got to the bit where the game takes 8gb of your hard drive yet; I can't imagine how long that would take :/
None of the updates haven taken that long to do for me, I must be lucky (that or my incredibly fast internet).
This game is fucking awesome.
Is there a way of sorting this, or is it a case of just patience and persistence?
I haven't got to the bit where the game takes 8gb of your hard drive yet; I can't imagine how long that would take :/
Patience & persistence is probably the key. I've not heard of any major issue with the update & haven't tried it my self yet. Will give it a go in a bit.
Btw. The install is damn slow & lies on the predicted completion time.
This game is fucking awesome.
For a re-hash with nothing that hasn't been done better already... :mellow:
Will give it a go in a bit.
Right Berry, Update downloaded in ~10 mins, with the install a further 4-5 minutes. All done.
Your error is usually related to a server issue, so you may have just been unlucky. I'd try again, maybe turn off & re-start your router first... you never know.
FutebolArte
27-12-2010, 00:33
I like the camera angle in GT5 where you're in the cockpit of the car, the actual inside of the car's are spot on - they've got the Nissan 350z down to a tee...although it's impossible to drive using that angle if it's raining and someone is in front of you - all you see is road spray
man try using that view on the special challenges on the Lamborghini race in tuscany in the dark....
holy shit it was unreal..
Oi Fick, Gin asked me if I had any super awesome cars to give him, and i said i'd send him the one you sent me :lol:
B-Spec is hard man, they drive your car like a total spaz.
Glad the thing decided to work late last night!
Had a good few races this morning; I'm shit at driving games and GT5 is no exception. It's hard to keep the car on the track and also stay on the 'racing line', but hey the graphics make the game for me. They're just amazing.
I had a go at Karting earlier, man that's even worse - a good laugh though :lol:
My dad is seriously shit at it, good times.
Oi Fick, Gin asked me if I had any super awesome cars to give him, and i said i'd send him the one you sent me :lol:
B-Spec is hard man, they drive your car like a total spaz.
Tight git :laugh:
B-Spec is an arse. The drivers are supposed to get better with experience, but it's so damn painful to watch them fuck up despite giving them a far superior car to their opposition, that I doubt I'd have the patience to keep plugging away.
Glad the thing decided to work late last night!
Glad it's working for you Bez. Shame you missed out on the banging ride I gave Dale :ninja:
In game, or in real life Fick? :naughty:
I'm giving it to Gin, no doubt. He can pass it onto Berry after if he wants :laugh:. It's like the pesgaming mascot car.
Can we view our friends garages? I want to see what cars you are all driving. I've took a photo of my main car, but i've recently bought a Plymouth Cuda and can't figure out how to take a picture of it during the race (it's a standard car). It's gorgeous and I want you all to cream over it.
In game, or in real life Fick? :naughty:
I'm giving it to Gin, no doubt. He can pass it onto Berry after if he wants :laugh:. It's like the pesgaming mascot car.
Can we view our friends garages? I want to see what cars you are all driving. I've took a photo of my main car, but i've recently bought a Plymouth Cuda and can't figure out how to take a picture of it during the race (it's a standard car). It's gorgeous and I want you all to cream over it.
You can take photo's of standard cars from the replay pause screen... look back through this thread to see my standard legnum piccy...
As for viewing garages? Not a clue.
Foxhound
29-12-2010, 17:13
In game, or in real life Fick? :naughty:
I'm giving it to Gin, no doubt. He can pass it onto Berry after if he wants :laugh:. It's like the pesgaming mascot car.
Can we view our friends garages? I want to see what cars you are all driving. I've took a photo of my main car, but i've recently bought a Plymouth Cuda and can't figure out how to take a picture of it during the race (it's a standard car). It's gorgeous and I want you all to cream over it.
An American muscle car. I got it for free after completing an event. I tuned it up to 800 HP.I can't really remember the name, because I don't play it much.
Gun_Runner
31-12-2010, 08:31
my current car is my Audi R8 (the more expensive one) and I've given it a Ford Focus orange paintjob with black rims...it looks SICK!
stottmeister
31-12-2010, 10:14
This is the only game that makes me wonder if I should have gone down the PS3 route instead of the 360.
Forza just doesn't cut it, although it is a decent game.
Foxhound
01-01-2011, 03:48
I'd like to try Forza because from what I've read, the AI is more smarter.
StringerBell
03-01-2011, 19:33
The AI in Gran Turismo is okay but online play more than makes up for it. Currently kicking some ass in my S15
They like to congest the GT menu a tad, don't they? I was so flustered about what to pick I went into the soundtrack, put on Ave Maria and quit the game when it finished. :hmm:
Yeah the menu's are a bit complicated, and I had a lot of trouble putting the songs into the game. Soon found out it was a problem with the actual playlist and the options within the XMB. Even so, i've been playing it today, and my music has seemed to disappear altogether :lol: Having to listen to lounge music and funk-jazz is getting right on my tits. And that fucking laurel and hardy bullshit song within the GT Auto bit.
Apart from the menu's being a bit gay, I think this is the best presented game i've ever played. The GT Life homepage is brilliantly set out.
muscularmatt
04-01-2011, 01:52
I want my fucking PS3 back so I can play on this. Hate everyone.
Can we view our friends garages?
Right, got an answer for you on this. While you cannot view another persons garage directly, you can view cars that a user sets to "online". If you check my profile (from the profile tab on the GT menu), you should see a car in one of the slots below my progress... won't tell you what, just to see if you can confirm it!
Forza just doesn't cut it, although it is a decent game.
Disagree completely. Forza3 is the better game to play. For me, the only 2 things GT has done better is the inclusion of weather & a better variety of cars.
I'd like to try Forza because from what I've read, the AI is more smarter.
:laugh: More smarter! Actually, yes, GT's AI still parade around the track as they have always done. Piss poor really. Forza AI is much more challenging.
I find that the AI is better in real races, but on the license tests, they want to fuck you in the ass at every opportunity; getting in your way, ramming into you etc. I don't know if this is the case, or if it's just a case of "honestly occifer, that stationary car drove into me?!" :laugh:
Also Fick, the online car in question is a Ford SVT F-150 Ligthning '03 :smug: In Oxfor White Clearcoat :lol: Nice colour actually, not sure if I have that one. Nice truck though. I'm now going to set some of mine to online status.
I didn't have either of those museum cards either so i'll try and send you some back when I get some duplicates.
Also Fick, the online car in question is a Ford SVT F-150 Ligthning '03 :smug: In Oxfor White Clearcoat :lol: Nice colour actually, not sure if I have that one. Nice truck though. I'm now going to set some of mine to online status.
Even nicer as it's now supercharged & kicked the ass of the newer muscle cars in both races. :boss:
I need to get one, but they're not showing up in the used car or the regular dealerships!! My muscle car is more than apt, check it out :smug:
I just got lucky, came in handy for the sport trucks one too.
Nice violet Plymouth there Dale. Nothing even vaguely Huggy Bear about that...
Edit: Forgot to mention... when cars are set to online, you can't usde them to race, you have to return them to offline first.
+ Adding another couple of doozeys for all to see.
:laugh: Never thought of it as a pimps car until now haha.
It's a pretty good car to be fair, picked it up in the used dealership, pretty cheap with lots of potential. It's only downside is it's size. I had a lot of trouble getting ahead of the smaller cars in the Nostalgic Supercar race, purely because they were smaller and nimbler. On the straights i'd murder them though.
Ahh i see, fair enough. Well i'll just have to buy a new car then. I need an old european one anyway so I can do the Euro Classic race.
Just been checking on the racing modification option for cars, as I was looking to upgrade something unusual for the GT World Championship in the Pro series, but to my dismay it would appear there is only a small number of cars you can race mod.
The list of 17 (yes that's 17 out of over 1000 cars) appears to be:
Acura NSX ‘91
Chevrolet Camaro SS ‘10
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 ‘69
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) ‘06
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) ‘09
Dodge Challenger R/T ‘70
Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) ‘97
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) ‘04
Lexus IS F ‘07
Lotus Elise ‘96
Lotus Elise 111R ‘04
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR ‘05
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) ‘02
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA ‘05
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) ‘95
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 ‘00
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI ‘01
Pretty depressingly shit that. Especially as I have none of the above anyway :faceplm:
Becoming more disillusioned by GT5 with every new find.
Yeah I was pretty miffed to find that, even though I have the Nissan Silvia, it was my second car I think?
They might change that with updates?
Oh dear :faceplm:
Just completed the Gran Tourismo World Championship (the one in professional), only to be told I've unlocked the ending video, which subsequently plays. Bear in mind that the only level I have totally completed is amateur, am level 17 on A-Spec, 5 on B-Spec and only have a total 31% game completion!
Almost gives the impression they are not expecting people to put up with it for long.
5 years. Just can't see why.
muscularmatt
07-01-2011, 03:26
So what? It's just a minor piece of poor organisation, doesn't affect the long term potential of the game.
You guys better not get bored of this on me. When I get my PS3 back I expect an ass kicking off someone.
So what? It's just a minor piece of poor organisation, doesn't affect the long term potential of the game.
You guys better not get bored of this on me. When I get my PS3 back I expect an ass kicking off someone.
5 years worth though? Considering Yamauchi is such an anal fellow for detail, it's almost pathetic that so much was missed/skimmed over.
I do hope we get some decent updates, best be free too, otherwise Matt will be cruising the high speed ring on his own in his pink Micra.
There has been a breakthrough. I have found a use for B-Spec mode. Seriously.
I am waiting for a decent European classic sports car to become available in the used dealership and am bored of racing my current crop of motors. So, thinks I, rather than race, I can leave my B-spec dumbo to race, earning me credits and driving my shit cars, while passing game time allowing new models to appear in said shop.
It may be worth noting however, that if this is the only real use I find for B-spec mode, then it is actually a pretty poor one.
Gun_Runner
09-01-2011, 08:12
Don't understand B-Spec mode at all, I mean I get the concept of it...just why the fuck would you put it in a game?
Seriously, considering these arseholes delayed this game for years to 'perfect' it - there are some major flaws
What exactly is B-Spec then out of curiosity?
What exactly is B-Spec then out of curiosity?
Instead of doing the racing you instruct another driver; tell him when to change pace, overtake, etc.
It's all good until you find out how retarded these AI drivers actually are.
Nail on the head Bez, nail on the head. My main driver is now level 7, but still cannot win the very first race. Even with the best car he fails to finish above 4th. Really don't get it.
:lol: B-Spec sounds like a crock of shit. Reminds me of how PES Management sounded, remember that seemingly dreadful game? Boy that faded into obscurity quick.
It wouldn't be too bad if you could personalise your vehicles, or create some kind of team. For christ's sake, even pick the drivers name rather than from a pre-determined selection. Then you might feel some ownership. But nay.
Yeah, my driver is called A. Dos Santos I think. I didn't understand why I was picking one at first and what his driving stats were for. Haven't actually bothered to try the B-spec mode yet.
In fact, all I've really done is those tedious licences. Feel free to hook me up with a fast car anyone. Ferrari would be good. :shifty:
I quite like B-spec actually.
E.Velasquez (or bob as he is more commonly known) is on his way to this top :lol:
It's good for earning some easy money and experience, and i'm pretty sure you get different prize cars for winning the same events in A-Spec.
Having said that, you do need a vastly superior car to all of your opponents, i'm talking about 100bhp+ above. Also you need to check the gear ratio on the fully customisable transmission (this should be on all cars regardless of A-Spec or B-Spec), if the gears are wrong for the track, you won't win.
In fact, all I've really done is those tedious licences. Feel free to hook me up with a fast car anyone. Ferrari would be good. :shifty:
Might want to take a peek at my new toy then...
Having said that, you do need a vastly superior car to all of your opponents, i'm talking about 100bhp+ above. Also you need to check the gear ratio on the fully customisable transmission (this should be on all cars regardless of A-Spec or B-Spec), if the gears are wrong for the track, you won't win.
Good point on the gearing ratio. Also need to make sure you put the driver on the best possible tyres the race will allow too. I've found FR & 4WD to be the 'safest' bet. Can't use them in all races I know, but I will wherever possible.
Just had my B-Spec drive doing the French car champ in my little white Veyron. Slightly souped up to a shade under 1150BHP... Got a nice piccy of it with it's wing up, mid race, that I'll set to share for anyone interested.
Oh & Dale, yes you do get different cars for completing race types in B-Spec.
hywelkidd
12-01-2011, 15:07
Picked it up just after christmas and am loving it. Currently got a Ferrari 512BB, 2010 Subaru Impreza, Renault Sport Clio, Ford Mustang Mach 1, Ford Focus ST and a 1997 Honda Civic Type R (as well as the Kart). Tuned most of my cars (including the Mustang which now has well over 500 bhp).
Foxhound
14-01-2011, 11:04
Who wants to donate me a truck? I need it to complete the Beginner event.
Who wants to donate me a truck? I need it to complete the Beginner event.
I'll loan you my Ford F150, it's more than good enough to win the events without breaking into a sweat...
Edit:- 521BHP, Stage 1 + ECU, supercharged, 5 speed close ratio box for the tighter tracks (use standard box on oval).
Remember though, forget to return in & I have the power to ban you from here! :boss:
Seriously though, if you're interested then let me know...
In addition, if anyone is bothered about collecting the museum cards, I have the following duplicates on offer:
Citroen #30 & #65
Toyota #12
In addition, if anyone is bothered about collecting the museum cards, I have the following duplicates on offer:
Citroen #30 & #65
Toyota #12
Ooh hark at the GT5 "Biaaatch" ... :D
Keep sending them my way Fick, I don't keep track of which ones I have, but any duplicates you have are welcome in my garage :D
Ooh hark at the GT5 "Biaaatch" ... :D
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
Keep sending them my way Fick, I don't keep track of which ones I have, but any duplicates you have are welcome in my garage :D
Just go to the museum ya tool!
FutebolArte
15-01-2011, 00:26
so, anyone else having a bitch of a time getting to level 20?
Not really. Just a pain waiting for the right cars for the right races. For example, I just need the historic race series to complete Expert in A-Spec, but I currently have nothing in my garage good enough & refuse to pay 20M credits to buy one from the 'new' dealers.
http://www.emotty.com/images/emoticons/1043.png
Just go to the museum ya tool!
I can't see the PNG. Put it in words. Good practise for Scrabble. When you'll lose. Mwahahaha hahaha (much evil laughter)
I can't see the PNG. Put it in words. Good practise for Scrabble. When you'll lose. Mwahahaha hahaha (much evil laughter)
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
Now?
Phatmann
15-01-2011, 00:50
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
Now?
I thought I'd put that in the emoticon list ages ago but it seems I haven't so in it goes.
Is GT5 actually any good? I'm hearing a lot of bad things about it in this thread yet everyone on my PSN list seems to be playing it while I sit on my own - or with Pategato - on Need For Speed. :(
Good man. That emoticon is a must.
As for GT5, I'd say that unless you are a petrol sniffing car nut, then you'll get little from it. It's a grind of a game that only really rewards sad junkies like me who gasp with delight at comparatively shit 80's Japanese cars.
The licences/challenges are being absolute bitches. Start at the back of the grid and aim for first, racing against drunk AI using a car that has ice for grip. And if they suddenly cut across to try and block me and I bump them, I get disqualified. Not impressed.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
Foxhound
15-01-2011, 10:54
Fick, I've added you on psn.
You can lend it to me next week. Turns out that I haven't downloaded the latest patch, which I can't be bothered to do at the moment.
The licences/challenges are being absolute bitches. Start at the back of the grid and aim for first, racing against drunk AI using a car that has ice for grip. And if they suddenly cut across to try and block me and I bump them, I get disqualified. Not impressed.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
I've not bothered after the a license. Anyone able to confirm if I'll need to pass the international licenses for any reason?
You can lend it to me next week. Turns out that I haven't downloaded the latest patch, which I can't be bothered to do at the moment.
I'll do it today so I don't forget! Not in need of it for a bit.
Foxhound
16-01-2011, 10:35
Alright, thanks. I'll most likely download the patch on Thursday.
hywelkidd
01-02-2011, 20:47
Got a beast of a car atm. Aston Martin DB9 with 622bhp, been put through all of the weight reduction stages (including windows and bonnet) and can do over 210mph but still handles amazingly well.
smudger2008
01-02-2011, 20:56
The licences/challenges are being absolute bitches. Start at the back of the grid and aim for first, racing against drunk AI using a car that has ice for grip. And if they suddenly cut across to try and block me and I bump them, I get disqualified. Not impressed.
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/5324/1043png.gif
They're not easy at all are they
smudger2008
01-02-2011, 21:00
I thought I'd put that in the emoticon list ages ago but it seems I haven't so in it goes.
Is GT5 actually any good? I'm hearing a lot of bad things about it in this thread yet everyone on my PSN list seems to be playing it while I sit on my own - or with Pategato - on Need For Speed. :(
GT5 seems more for realism then NFS. But I reckon NFS is better, especially for the autolog feature if you have a few friends playing it at the same time it brings some good competition when you see your times have been beaten
they're not easy at all are they
gt5 seems more for realism then nfs. But i reckon nfs is better, especially for the autolog feature if you have a few friends playing it at the same time it brings some good competition when you see your times have been beaten
Stop double posting!
smudger2008
02-02-2011, 13:58
Stop double posting!
Really sorry realised as soon as I'd done it, but nothing I could do by then, sorry
muscularmatt
02-02-2011, 16:18
http://thecpl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/banned.jpg?w=510&h=284
smudger2008
03-02-2011, 09:15
http://thecpl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/banned.jpg?w=510&h=284
yeah great thanks
Final say on GT5, then I will likely no longer bother with this thread.
I've got rid of it. Trying to grind through the championships, soooo many cars without interior views & last gen rendering, loooong load time (even with full install), even longer updates to fix non-essential bollocks, dumb AI (despite being patched to allegedly improve it), floaty cars that don't seem to touch the tarmac... and too many other niggles to be arsed listing, have seen GT5 removed from my collection.
The reason for this post? Simple. Get an Xbox360, buy Forza 3, revel in every car having a full interior view, better graphics, the handy rewind feature (a godsend on those long races when you are tiring after 30+ laps), the better weight and feel of the cars, the better damage modelling, both aesthetically & performance based, the better modding/graphic options for the cars, the ability to swap engines with other models by the same manufacturer... the list goes on.
As a grade A petrol-head with many years experience of driving, from a reverse-steering Fiat 126 to an 18ton gun carrier and pretty much everything in between, I can honestly say that Forza 3 pisses all over GT5.
It's not a preference. It's a fact.
Frankly, Polyphony & Sony should be embarrassed to make us all wait for something so incomplete.
smudger2008
31-03-2011, 09:14
I'm guessing you don't like GT5
Foxhound
06-04-2011, 11:41
I've not bothered to play since returning your car, fick. I'm not selling it though. I'm trying to build up my PS3 games collection, regardless how shit the game may be.
Each to their own. It's trade in value nearly covered Killzone 3, so it's no loss for me.
IronCity
26-05-2011, 20:39
I was happy to find a post on GT5 here although not happy with some of the negative comments because I really want to purchase a good racing game. Racing is the only type of game I can get my wife interested in playing on the PS3
Since NFS does not have split-screen offline competitions I want to stay away but can anyone that frequents this post recommend a good split screen racer other than GT5?
Also, out of the box, does GT5 give you enough track and car choices to make it fun or is all unlockable only through use? Seems as if the comments mention having to build everything through purchase. Dammit - I want the whole game out of the box if I am shucking out $60 for it. Thanks for any help.
p.s. - split screen offline a must
I was happy to find a post on GT5 here although not happy with some of the negative comments because I really want to purchase a good racing game. Racing is the only type of game I can get my wife interested in playing on the PS3
Since NFS does not have split-screen offline competitions I want to stay away but can anyone that frequents this post recommend a good split screen racer other than GT5?
Also, out of the box, does GT5 give you enough track and car choices to make it fun or is all unlockable only through use? Seems as if the comments mention having to build everything through purchase. Dammit - I want the whole game out of the box if I am shucking out $60 for it. Thanks for any help.
p.s. - split screen offline a must
You get split screen offline & a limited choice of cars in the arcade mode, though I wouldn't necessarily say it was fun as it's supposed to be a sim.
The full GT mode is single player & that's where the majority of the cars are. Really, you are going to struggle to find a decent split screen racer if you are on PS3.
IronCity
27-05-2011, 22:54
You get split screen offline & a limited choice of cars in the arcade mode, though I wouldn't necessarily say it was fun as it's supposed to be a sim.
The full GT mode is single player & that's where the majority of the cars are. Really, you are going to struggle to find a decent split screen racer if you are on PS3.
It seems as if split screen went away after PS2 was replaced. I remember playing all kind of split screen games, most racing in PS2 and PS1 days. Shame. It does seem like PS3 games have some strange memory problems - like something is not configured correctly that minimizes old but simple PS2 options. Thanks for the reply, I was going to PM you fick because of the insight a few posts above.
No worries, always happy to help a fellow petrol head. Especially one with a mrs who is willing to play racing games. My jealousy is in abundance. Mention racing to my other half & all she does is hurumph & start complaining.
Seriously though, not being a fanboy here as I was very late to the 360, but Microsoft's house brick is the way to go for racing. Forza seriously kicks GT arse & there are more of the older games (NFS for example) that you can play in the higher res, and without ending up with a nasty box with big black borders either side like you can get when playing PS2 titles on a b/c PS3.
Viperized
27-05-2011, 23:42
Final say on GT5, then I will likely no longer bother with this thread.
I've got rid of it. Trying to grind through the championships, soooo many cars without interior views & last gen rendering, loooong load time (even with full install), even longer updates to fix non-essential bollocks, dumb AI (despite being patched to allegedly improve it), floaty cars that don't seem to touch the tarmac... and too many other niggles to be arsed listing, have seen GT5 removed from my collection.
The reason for this post? Simple. Get an Xbox360, buy Forza 3, revel in every car having a full interior view, better graphics, the handy rewind feature (a godsend on those long races when you are tiring after 30+ laps), the better weight and feel of the cars, the better damage modelling, both aesthetically & performance based, the better modding/graphic options for the cars, the ability to swap engines with other models by the same manufacturer... the list goes on.
As a grade A petrol-head with many years experience of driving, from a reverse-steering Fiat 126 to an 18ton gun carrier and pretty much everything in between, I can honestly say that Forza 3 pisses all over GT5.
It's not a preference. It's a fact.
Frankly, Polyphony & Sony should be embarrassed to make us all wait for something so incomplete.
Except the graphics of Forza 3 aren't as good as GT5 and neither is the interior modelling.
Play with a wheel and GT5 has the best driving model out there. The 'game' is pretty crap though.
Give me the style and presentation of Shift 2 with the gameplay of GT5 = best racer ever.
GT5 honestly has the worst presentation ever and the career mode is boring as ever. It's been the same rehashed career mode form the past 5 games. But at least they've got the hardest part done right - the driving physics. So I hope GT6 actually delivers a 'RACING GAME' this time around.
Except the graphics of Forza 3 aren't as good as GT5 and neither is the interior modelling.
Play with a wheel and GT5 has the best driving model out there. The 'game' is pretty crap though.
I wrote a really long reply to this. Got all angry at Polyphony digital for their lazy GT3 rehash with a few extras. The site logged me out and I lost it all :folarm:
So now comes the abridged version:
GT5 Pro's: Weather (albeit limited). Used car showroom.
GT5 Con's: Poor collision detection. Slowdown after gentle nudge (akin to old arcade racers). Terrible implementation of damage system. Circa 80% of cars and 25% of tracks are GT3/PS2 models. Worse than GT3 handling. Poor menus. Slow loading. Painfully long installs. And much more.
Basically, if Forza 4 included weather and a used car system (not just bought over live), then GT 5 would be completely redundant.
Just for the record, I've played every GT to death. 3 was the biggest jump in quality and 'feel'. The series ever since has frankly stagnated.
Edit: Physics/schmyisics. Play GT3. You'll see how the handling in GT5 has deteriorated.
Edit 2: Graphics/schmafics. GT's premium cars and some track lighting do benefit from the game running at a higher res. But only them. The standard cars & the majority of the track detail are worse graphically than Forza3
On a final, final note; How shit is GT5 modification? No engine changes? Limited drive change? No boring our engines, christ, you can't even upgrade brakes, never mind no wheel changes on the standard cars.
Sorry, but I'll take Forza 3 every day. If I had to choose a second, it'd be GT3.
(Not very abridged I know, but it just riles me that in 5 years they barely managed what Turn 10 did in 18 months. I'll stop now. Sorry).
Viperized
28-05-2011, 10:08
Playing Forza 3 is like driving on rails. The cars are glued on the roads despite all assists off.
Do you play GT5 with all assists off and with a wheel? For a console game, it has the best physics out there. Even the PC sim community agrees with that one. I'm not sure how you can say the physics have deteriorated from GT3 (which is an arcade racer in comparison). As a game, it is pretty bad, but the key one thing it was praised for is the driving model.
I've got both Forza 3 and GT5 and the lighting in the former looks crappy. The game looks cartoony. I know many of the tracks look like shit, but those which were actually modelled in GT5 look photorealistic. The premium cars look fucking amazing too. Most detailed cockpits I have ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmMgxISrAeQ&feature=related
Photorealism > Cartoon graphics.
Customisation is better in Forza although the livery editor sucks. Who wants to paint shit all over their car to make it look worse? Heh.
The best racing game I have played so far however is Shift 2. But the cars handle like absolute shit. Cars feel like they are being driven on ice. All they do is slip and slide. Although every other aspect is great. Great customisation, superb tracks, great graphics, great engine sounds, and good A.I. Also, I love the menus and presentation. Career mode is better than GT5 or Forza 3, both which I gave up after completing 70 or so percent.
IronCity
28-05-2011, 18:03
You guys are extremely helpful. Thanks Fick and Viper. I really wanted to get shift 2 until I read no offline split screen. EA Sum bitches. I cannot believe a racing game would even be invented with that option left out.
I have my wife so interested now that she keeps asking me when are you going out to get it so I guess I am stuck into getting GT5. I better take care of that before she loses interest.
Loading time is probably the item that scares me most about GT5 - I have seen that problem identified in every review of the game in addition to what I have read here by Fick. I am an impatient one but I guess I will grin and bear it. After Shift2, I wish Forza was made for PS3 Thanks again fellas.
fick is butthurt, hes a fanboy
Viperized
29-05-2011, 01:06
You guys are extremely helpful. Thanks Fick and Viper. I really wanted to get shift 2 until I read no offline split screen. EA Sum bitches. I cannot believe a racing game would even be invented with that option left out.
I have my wife so interested now that she keeps asking me when are you going out to get it so I guess I am stuck into getting GT5. I better take care of that before she loses interest.
Loading time is probably the item that scares me most about GT5 - I have seen that problem identified in every review of the game in addition to what I have read here by Fick. I am an impatient one but I guess I will grin and bear it. After Shift2, I wish Forza was made for PS3 Thanks again fellas.
Ah - forgot about the loading times. It's the reason why I gave up playing GT5. But it was still such a good racer.
Ferrari 458 Italia @ Nurburgring Day/Night = :o
Driving experience and graphics are unmatched. As for everything else? Don't expect too much and it's not too bad!
I reckon GT6 could be the best racer out there if they fix all the issues from GT5. :P
Needs better loading, proper damage, more tracks, no standard cars, better sound effects, better menus, and a better career mode.
IronCity
29-05-2011, 02:56
What about steering - I am waiting through the 20 minute initial download right now and reading the manual and I think I am getting very dissapointed by reading that you can't steer by simply tilting the controller. Maybe I am reading incorrectly. I might already want my money back. I had GT prologue in my hand because 1/3 the price and didn't need everything, just want to have some fun racing...but went with the big guns of GT5. Ah, gift card money, who cares. Could have blown it on FIFA11 and been really pissed.
Can anyone tellme the perfect settings for GT5. I know its a bit vague, but I want to hear what you guys use and which one is the best to cope with like traction control and ABS
muscularmatt
09-02-2012, 13:42
I'll let you know in a couple of weeks, when I get back into PS3 land. This is going to be one of the first games I buy.
Thanks. What platform were you using before?
Does anyone know how to qualify for a race. I remember that option was in previous versions but I can't find it in this edition.
Thanks in advance
Nifty1Pound50
19-02-2012, 10:22
Can anyone tellme the perfect settings for GT5. I know its a bit vague, but I want to hear what you guys use and which one is the best to cope with like traction control and ABS
Can you just clarify what you mean here?
Do you mean you want to play without the assists on, like traction control and ABS, and you want to know what the best setup is for a car to counter-act loss of control etc?
If so, any cars in particular?
It varies greatly depending on the drive type (front, rear, 4WD) and of course which model of car we're talking about.
On a separate note, anyone who is actively playing GT5 - add me on PSN and we'll hook up for some racing. There's got to be at least 5-6 of us that can get online together for some competitive fun.
There's got to be at least 5-6 of us that can get online together for some competitive fun.
Definitely. I've had some interaction with Fick in the past, but apart from that, I think the problem is that i've never thought of GT as an online game, let alone a competitive one. I've never played GT online, but it'd be a blast to get some races on the go.
IronCity
19-02-2012, 17:15
never went online with gt5; are there the typical lobbies where we can find each other? also I imagine we play with raw data so someone who races all the time doesn't have all this money to buy some crazy car so far beyond the others.
I would be willing to give it a try later today, can be on around 9pm Bolton time.
Well I don't think any of us would put each other at such a disadvantage, that'd just be stupid. I think races with all of using the same car could be interesting, see who is the BEST racer ;)
Nifty1Pound50
19-02-2012, 17:41
IC - you are correct in that it's a lobby system. Whoever hosts the lobby has control over any restrictions and settings.
You can restrict horsepower, car weight and performance points, or simply stipulate that everyone has to race with a certain (stock) make and model of car. The pre-determined list to choose from is probably similar to that available in the Arcade mode (although I've not played Arcade mode so can't be sure).
I personally prefer to use cars from my garage and simply set some limitations that keep things even. If you set a weight and horsepower limit then everyone's car is going to be fairly similar in stature - similarly, the idea behind performance points as a limit is that wildly different cars can compete and, in theory, be competitive.
One thing to note, in preparation for playing online - you can only select cars from your garage that you have set as favourites. Therefore, in preparation of playing online go through your garage and favourite all the cars you use (not sure if there's an upper limit - I think I have favourited most of my cars).
I would be very game for getting online at 9pm tonight and going for a spin. Even if we just cruise and get to know each other's ability or slag each other's cars off. I have a headset for ultimate banter.
Just so you know - there are two schools of thought in GT online. Clean racing and dirty racing.
I race clean and refuse to race with people who race dirty. People who race dirty are the type of people who will approach a hairpin in fifth gear and use the car in front as their braking zone, wiping out the opposition in the process.
Accidental comings together happen, of course, but people who go out of their way to turn it into a destruction derby tend to ruin otherwise decent races.
The only reason I mention it is because it really is a maker-or-breaker in terms of everyone enjoying the racing. If you have 4 people and one of them is a dirty racer, he will ruin it for the other 3 every time.
Does anyone have muscularmatt's PSN name?
Abu - I will also add you.
Would be good to get a little PESGaming GT5 session on the go. Tonight at 9pm.
If any of you are struggling for cars, I'm sure those of us with more extensive garages can lend you some to race with.
By the way Nifty, i've just put GT in for the first time in ages, and apparently I have to install 10 updates, and it's just gotten to 4% in ten minutes....on the first bar :lol:
This could take a while :facepalm:
Nifty1Pound50
19-02-2012, 19:55
That's cool - you'll be there just in time.
Abu and Iron should both be online by about 9:30, so we can have a few cruises.
Iron said he has a total of two cars in his garage. :lol:
Whenever you guys get online, go to Community --> then find me by username (polski_sklep) and click on me --> then click on the coffee cup icon which is the Lounge. Will then show you a list of people in the lounge and give you the choice to join.
Unlike many other games, there is no way to directly invite friends in (annoying).
:facepalm: Just received news my mother will be watching Wild At Heart, so I won't get on until about 9:30 either.
Nifty1Pound50
19-02-2012, 20:37
No problem.
Me and Abu are in the lounge now.
Waiting on you and Iron.
I've already set up the settings to my liking. 500PP limit, unrestricted everything else.
Car damage/tyre wear on and the only assist is ABS.
16 lap race.
Edit: Iron is here as well. Just you, Dale. Just you.
Sounds good to me. I wonder if we would be able to set up some sort of league table, like Lounge Mode in FIFA. That'd be class.
Yeah I doubt i'll be on much tonight, these updates are fully taking the piss. I'll try and get on as soon as I can, but it probably won't be until later. Don't wait up for me :wave:
Iron, you had me laughing man. "Much better than playing with the wife, this" :lol:
Christ i'm out of touch with this game. Need a few more practice sessions I think.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 00:34
Iron, you had me laughing man. "Much better than playing with the wife, this" :lol:
Christ i'm out of touch with this game. Need a few more practice sessions I think.
that was the reason I bought the game in the first place - something she and I could do together on the ps3 (if they only had mario bros for PS3 she wouldn't curse the thing). we played for a month or so and she lost interest, then I did. this will get me back into it. Practice? I never saw you and nifty after the starting flag was waved. maybe some skid marks you guys left 49seconds in front of me. i need some fundamentals. fun time however.
Viperized
20-02-2012, 00:34
I guess I should purchase this game again considering there seems to be a small active community here...
Yeah fundamentals is what it's all about. I used to have some rules that I went by that saw me alright, and I had forgot those. With more playing time i'll remember though.
That Golf really was a total bag of shit man, spinning out on a gentle curve :facepalm:
IronCity
20-02-2012, 00:40
@viper, yeah man, it would be good to get a good handful of people. tonight was first time online, a lot of nice perks in online play.
@dale, the last race seemed the most in control for me, slower cars
Viperized
20-02-2012, 00:43
I know they released the 'XL Edition' in USA which includes all DLC (additional cars, tracks and updates) on the disc. I'm waiting for a similar release in the UK tbh!
muscularmatt
20-02-2012, 01:15
This gamefest just got muscular.
I feel so embarrassed after yesterday, considering the fact that my lap times were over 30 seconds than the average lap time. Even though I won, Nifty kept on going back to IronCity to give us a chance and when he was driving, he just zoomed past us without skidding!
Nifty, what did you set your ABS to?
IronCity
20-02-2012, 15:13
oh hell abu, I didn't realize you were retrosword last night. I was going to check this entire site today to see who that username was linked to. I need a lookup key.
I have a lot of practicing to do. those first few races we were all using different cars and it showed. I couldn't get past 117mph and you guys were probably around 145-150. we raced with Dale later and standardized the cars, didn't help me figuratively, only literally.
I race online like I play PES online. Offline I am steady, then I go online and I throw all the basics out the window and slam on the accelerator. I had to laugh at myself last night - if a mouse was put into an experiment such that if it stepped on a trigger and it got electrozapped it would stop stepping on that trigger after only a few trials. But I failed to learn the same lesson time and time again at each hairloop curve as I battered the barrier at 100mph, pedal to the metal.
Ali_BWFC
20-02-2012, 15:37
I race clean and refuse to race with people who race dirty. People who race dirty are the type of people who will approach a hairpin in fifth gear and use the car in front as their braking zone, wiping out the opposition in the process.
Accidental comings together happen, of course, but people who go out of their way to turn it into a destruction derby tend to ruin otherwise decent races.
We used to call this "Gran Turismoing" back in the day. This could apply to all racing games.
Now there seems to be a bit of interest I'm half tempted to see if I can pick this up again (on the cheapo, mind!)
Depends how long the interest lasts... wasn't much fun in single player.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 16:05
yeah boyeee. Waxing interest right now. I can only be a weekend driver because of my USA time warp.
Not even sure where my b/tooth headset is any more... :hmm:
Won't be the same if I can't hurl abuse.
Edit: £14 at Asda... why the hell not. Currently doing god knows how many updates :facepalm:
Will try and find my headset, but worst case scenario I'll let my driving do the talking :erm:
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 19:35
I guess I should purchase this game again considering there seems to be a small active community here...
If you can pick it up on the cheap I would certainly recommend it.
To be honest, despite its flaws that I'm sure are exaggerated by purists, there is certainly a hell of a lot right with the game.
The online element is extremely good - in fact, if we get it to a point where we have 5, 6, maybe 7-8 people all competing on a level playing field it will blow the single player out of the water. The AI just aren't realistic when it comes down to it.
So far, it seems like we have:
Me
muscularmatt
Dale C.
abu97
IronCity
fick
Sminky has said if there are a few of us playing regularly he would be interested in buying the game and joining us, too. I'm sure there are others lurking who will only need to see there's some life in this thread to get involved.
Yeah fundamentals is what it's all about.
The first thing you need to do, after a while away from playing racing games, is to exaggerate the use of racing lines.
Approach every corner on the very outside of the track and try and take the apex tight to the inside. If, on your way round a lap, there is a particular corner you miss your turning point on, remember it and mentally prepare yourself for it next time around - then, early-brake it to ensure you get the line right.
To take that a step further and give you reason enough to early-brake is the simple, four-word truth - slow out, fast in. If you go into a corner slowly, you'll be able to get out of it quickly and then allow your momentum to manifest itself as a quicker way to get to top speed.
Simply put - if you approach a corner too fast, you'll lose more time slowing down to get around it cleanly/in the gravel than you would if you approached it a little too slow and then were able to pick up speed on your way out.
That Golf really was a total bag of shit man, spinning out on a gentle curve
I honestly have no idea how you guys spin out driving these slow cars. Please tell me that you at least had all of your assists off? If you did that with traction control on you should be ashamed of yourself. :lol:
This gamefest just got muscular.
I've accepted your friend request. Hopefully see you on the track soon, buddy.
Nifty, what did you set your ABS to?
I think in that first race I had all of my assists off, including ABS set to zero.
For those of you that play GT5 with the assists on, let me tell you something; turn them off. At the very least, turn traction control off.
Once you get the hang of driving with TC off, you will find you are a way better racer.
Although I am inclined to allow people to use it in order to promote fairer gameplay, any victory you attain with it on will be rendered obsolete by the 'hardcore.'
I found that for a time I really struggled with no longer having traction control to allow me to grip the track in such an arcade-feeling way - but then, when I got used to it, it felt so much more rewarding to be able to handle a turn.
The moment the penny dropped and I suddenly 'got it' I was secretly very proud. You will be too and it will be worth it.
Now there seems to be a bit of interest I'm half tempted to see if I can pick this up again (on the cheapo, mind!)
Edit: £14 at Asda... why the hell not. Currently doing god knows how many updates
That was quick! I didn't realise anyone lived that close to an Asda. It's one of those supermarkets that everyone always seems to complain about not living near enough to. "If I had an Asda, I'd definitely shop there!" is a phrase that I have heard more often than many.
Will be good to have you on board. The reason I didn't add you was because I noticed you'd got rid of GT5. Will add you now.
My headset has always been flaky on GT5 - but then I think I might need to set the voice chat to a higher quality to make it work. Any advice or insight into this, Fick?
Regarding your questions about headsets last night, Iron - the headset I have is the following:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ORB-Wireless-Bluetooth-PS3-Headset/dp/B000A63KW4
I picked it up because that was the one they had in Blockbuster Video at the time and I'll be honest - it is excellent. It is small, unintrusive and (except for flakiness in GT5) the quality seems good enough to me.
Currently £10 on Amazon, which is basically nothing.
For anyone who wishes to join the PESGaming GT5 ring, add polski_sklep on PS3 and let me know you're a GT5 person. I will try and have a lounge open most evenings this week so pop in and have a race or a cruise around.
Edited my message at 16:33 Nifty :D Even I'm not that quick.
Got it on the way back from picking my Subaru up after it's MOT/service.
Not a clue on the headset, it's been a long time since I used mine & it didn't connect properly back then...
Edit: 80% of the way through the updates, after having to do a PS update as well. Will try to get on later (after the missus goes to bed), otherwise It'll be a warm up with Iron during the day (I'm off work this week!)
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 20:05
Right, just to get everyone's competitive spirit going - here's the challenge for the week.
Practice Mode Time Trial
Track: Laguna Seca Raceway
Aim: To complete the fastest lap possible.
Car restrictions: Any car, maximum 450 PP (performance points). Tuning allowed and all aero parts/modifications/tyres allowed.
Settings restrictions: Driving assists must all be off (except for ABS which can be set to 1).
Closing date: Friday 24th February (23:59 GMT)
Your lap must be valid (i.e. no cutting corners, which would invalidate your lap anyway). There's nothing at stake here, but hopefully will give everyone a chance to practice and hone their skills in time for our first official event (maybe this weekend coming?).
Entry open to all. This is like the pre-season F1 testing.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 20:21
good idea Nifty. good way to work us in the interim of getting together for a race.
edit: just stepped back a page and saw fick picked the game up (again). sweet.
Wow! When did they sort the in-car view for standard cars? Albeit a shitty blackout, it makes it a lot better to play!
Just to set the ball rolling (and because I need the practice):
Mugen Civic Si '87
PP = 447
BHP = 218
Tyres = Racing, hard
Best Time - 1:41.830
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 20:35
When did they sort the in-car view for standard cars? Albeit a shitty blackout, it makes it a lot better to play!
That was done in an update a while back, now. One thing you have to say for them is that they do continually roll out updates to improve the game.
The most useful update for me was when they made it possible to buy parts from the settings (i.e. tuning) screen. That saved hours.
Mugen Civic Si '87
PP = 447
BHP = 218
Tyres = Racing, hard
Best Time - 1:41.830
I'll find something in my garage that's around 450PP and see how I do.
I was thinking that people would push the 500PP close so as to give us a good gauge at that level, though. I'm currently sitting in the pits of Laguna Seca in a down-tuned Toyota Altezza Touring Car. Just dropped the engine to 50% which brings it to 199BHP - I'll let you know my time around the track in a few minutes...
Edit: First lap round the course and clocked a 1:39.431.
Tuned the Altezza down to 452PP, simply by limiting the engine. I imagine if I added a bit of weight to drop it to 447, that would put us pretty much spot on in terms of times.
I'll be honest, I think the GT5 PP system is a real winner.
Two completely different cars, matched up based on a power/weight ratio.
I've got a headset so I'll be up for admonishing you assorted reprobates when I pick up GT5 ... a week Tuesday ... I'm skint until then.
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 20:41
Amended the time trial to be 450 PP.
Just because.
Edit:
Car: Toyota Altezza Touring Car
PP = 447
BHP = 199
Time = 1:37.149
Can definitely get a lot more out of it, too. Need to tighten the gears up and not take the second corner like a spastic.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 20:51
That was done in an update a while back, now. One thing you have to say for them is that they do continually roll out updates to improve the game.
The most useful update for me was when they made it possible to buy parts from the settings (i.e. tuning) screen. That saved hours.
I'll find something in my garage that's around 450PP and see how I do.
I was thinking that people would push the 500PP close so as to give us a good gauge at that level, though. I'm currently sitting in the pits of Laguna Seca in a down-tuned Toyota Altezza Touring Car. Just dropped the engine to 50% which brings it to 199BHP - I'll let you know my time around the track in a few minutes...
Edit: First lap round the course and clocked a 1:39.431.
Tuned the Altezza down to 452PP, simply by limiting the engine. I imagine if I added a bit of weight to drop it to 447, that would put us pretty much spot on in terms of times.
I'll be honest, I think the GT5 PP system is a real winner.
Two completely different cars, matched up based on a power/weight ratio.
this is the part that scare me. my knowledge base for the game is so far away all this information. I need to learn it because there are so many cool features that I should be implementing. I am still in fast food mode instead of knowing the fine dinner menu.
@fick, tighten up the gears???? I am so blindfolded to this game's potential
All this chat of gears, you guys playing on manual, if so, fuck that. I'm strictly Automatic. A man of my advanced years has enough to be concentrating on (i.e Breathing and not pissing myself)
Tweaked the OAP car a bit further, changed the oil, then backed off the PP to 450. Not gained me a lot, but still getting used to the handling. Now I just need to sort the understeer & I'll get quicker.
Revised stats:
Mugen Civic Si '87
PP = 450
BHP = 210 (Down from 218)
Tyres = Racing, hard
Best Time - 1:38.889
All this chat of gears, you guys playing on manual, if so, fuck that. I'm strictly Automatic. A man of my advanced years has enough to be concentrating on (i.e Breathing and not pissing myself)
I'm an auto'er. It's all in the brakes for me.
Update: After an aero tune to release a bit more PP, allowing me to up the BHP again + some suspension/gear tweaks:
Mugen Civic Si '87
PP = 450
BHP = 216 (Up from 210)
Tyres = Racing, hard
Best Time - 1:36.905
Game on!
IronCity
20-02-2012, 21:26
oil change????? I love games that give you a 4-page manual, mostly with pretty pictures, but you need to know 20 pages.
Christ on a bike this seems quite indepth. I just want to 'aim' the thing and go (insert witty retort here) rather than be fannying around. I presume its all rather self explanatory and straight forward as opposed to needing some engineering and mechanical savvy?
IronCity
20-02-2012, 21:42
Christ on a bike this seems quite indepth. I just want to 'aim' the thing and go (insert witty retort here) rather than be fannying around. I presume its all rather self explanatory and straight forward as opposed to needing some engineering and mechanical savvy?
I'm with you sminky. Let me drop my coin in the slot and play. I like the fact that there are all the details but I think these can be controlled/negated in a standard format online so wouldn't have to worry about it for racing day.
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 21:45
this is the part that scare me. my knowledge base for the game is so far away all this information. I need to learn it because there are so many cool features that I should be implementing. I am still in fast food mode instead of knowing the fine dinner menu.
OK, a few key terms.
BHP = brake horsepower.
PP = performance points.
Now, it goes without saying - the higher the BHP, the more grunt the car has and, effectively, the quicker the engine can push it along.
However, BHP isn't an ideal measure because cars vary so much in weight. A car that weighs 700kg and has a BHP of 100 and a car that weighs 1,000kg and has an equivalent BHP will be a lot different in terms of speed.
Crudely speaking, the PP indicator (which stands for performance points) gives you a pound-for-pound indication as to how good the car is. It uses a number of variables about the car, most notably the BHP and weight (but also things like downforce, location of the weight, etc) to effectively rank the car.
The idea is that it allows people with an array of different cars to find a level competitor, even if one person chooses a huge Mustang and the other chooses a tiny Vauxhall Corsa.
@fick, tighten up the gears???? I am so blindfolded to this game's potential
I presume this is meant for me, not Fick?
When you have purchased a car in the GT (career) mode, you can then buy a range of additions for that car. One such addition is a customisable gearbox, meaning you can shorten/tighten the gears (quicker acceleration through them) or lengthen/widen the gears (slower acceleration but a higher top speed).
The reason I need to tighten up my gears on Laguna Seca is that as things stand, my Altezza Touring Car is set to have a higher top speed than it is reaching - therefore, I am sacrificing unnecessary acceleration for a top speed I'm not even hitting. This is where testing on tracks comes into play...
oil change????? I love games that give you a 4-page manual, mostly with pretty pictures, but you need to know 20 pages.
Once a car has clocked enough miles, it needs the oil changed. Over time, your car will lose BHP as the oil gets gritty. Change the oil and you'll get your lost BHP back.
I presume its all rather self explanatory and straight forward as opposed to needing some engineering and mechanical savvy?
Just to clarify - I also drive on automatic, but the fact is having your gearbox set up for acceleration or top speed is a fairly crucial modification to get the most out of your car dependent on the track.
There is an excellent help section within the tuning/settings screen. Click on whichever element you want to play with, then look for the little red help button (on the right, either top or bottom).
You can get really technical with changing the toe angle or the camber of the wheel, etc, but the more basic changes are more self-explanatory.
Adding weight to the car will slow it down, for example. Lowering the car will make it more aero-dynamic, but probably a bit trickier to handle and also less stable on uneven surfaces.
For me, the customisation of the car settings in order to eke out a few tenths of a second per lap is really rewarding. I guess others might not be so inclined. That being said, I have played so much of the GT career mode that I am now content with just trying to beat my own lap times.
@Iron, that's alright then. For a minute I was wondering whether I would have to don the virtual overalls, get the car on the jacks and say "Yeah love, your exhaust is blowing a bit there. I reckon about 60 quid all in. I'll chuck in the tracking for another 20 as you know, if you take a car to the garage with an unrelated problem the tracking is always done and charged for whether you wanted it done in the first place."
So yeah, as long its all easy to understand for a senile old fart like myself the happier I will be.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 21:51
I need the Nifty GT5 guide, learned more two posts above there than anything to date. better off with a bluetooth to ask him questions.
I was glad there was no lag with me dialing in from the U.S. I did notice a few number of times where I would almost crash into someone but suddenly they were not there - I went right through them.
edit: and almost forgot; gt5 has the best music, ambience of any video game I ever played (albeit I haven't played too many)
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 21:59
I was glad there was no lag with me dialing in from the U.S. I did notice a few number of times where I would almost crash into someone but suddenly they were not there - I went right through them.
I'm glad about the lack of lag. I meant to ask last night but didn't get around to it.
People going ethereal was because I set penalties on, I think. Or it might be built-in to the online mode to stop kamikaze drivers (though don't think so).
In any case, it was not as a result of lag. If you had mildly grazed someone the contact would've been felt.
I also think my low-quality sound was as a result of me not amending the sound settings (by default, they are low quality). Might try upping it and seeing if it improves things next time (although I know if too many are using headsets at high quality, lag can be caused).
Edit: 1:36.990. Without shortening the gears, as I can't be bothered to come out of the track and have to warm the tyres up again.
Edit #2: 1:36.328. Time to beat. I reckon I can get that down a fair bit with the right gear ratio.
The lass is home now & we're watching Grimm, but I'll be back on in a bit...
Worst case scenario, I'm willing to tune up a car & gift it... for a suitable one in return, of course :D
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 22:09
The lass is home now & we're watching Grimm, but I'll be back on in a bit...
Worst case scenario, I'm willing to tune up a car & gift it... for a suitable one in return, of course :D
I completely forgot about being able to send cars over to others.
Iron - if you want an example as to why you should tune your cars, do the following:
1. Pick a car in your garage.
2. Race it round a circuit and do the best lap you can (in practice mode, so it retains your times).
3. Send it to me via the game. I will tune it with a custom set gearbox and suspension and send it back to you.
4. Run that car round the same track (again, in practice mode).
5. Compare times.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 22:12
oh I won't need an example. Once I learned that you are tuning cars it just tells me I need to.
some light reading
http://guides.ign.com/guides/857126/page_3.html
Sod all this. Sausage can tune a car up for me if he wants the old conjugal ever again.
Viperized
20-02-2012, 22:16
oh I won't need an example. Once I learned that you are tuning cars it just tells me I need to.
some light reading
http://guides.ign.com/guides/857126/page_3.html
This looks like a fairly good guide. Nice and simple.
Nifty, do you race with the control pad, or do you use a steering wheel?
IronCity
20-02-2012, 22:19
Sminky, it might end up like this
http://www.thosefunnypictures.com/resize.php?file=pictures/6888/Funny_Pictures_6888.jpg
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 22:20
I use the pad. Haven't shelled out for a steering wheel and scarcely think it would make me better, to be honest.
Someone at my work spent mega money on a Recaro racing seat and built-in steering wheel. Fucking idiot probably hasn't used it in about 6 months.
I once saw a truly excellent tuning guide. I'll try and track it down for you guys.
Sminky, it might end up like this
http://www.thosefunnypictures.com/resize.php?file=pictures/6888/Funny_Pictures_6888.jpg
Don't be getting my hopes up! :D
Edit #2: 1:36.328. Time to beat. I reckon I can get that down a fair bit with the right gear ratio.
You get that down by another second and I'll need to pick a better car, my little OAP Civic is pushing what it's capable of.
Sod all this. Sausage can tune a car up for me if he wants the old conjugal ever again.
Oooh, if that's all it'll take :D
Oooh, if that's all it'll take :D
Depends how I feel :folarm:
How much time should I spend practising on the day of purchase before joining the PESGaming races? I played GT5 Prologue in November and forgot how appalling the handling was, I presume GT5 is a vastly superior iteration?
Depends how I feel :folarm:
How much time should I spend practising on the day of purchase before joining the PESGaming races? I played GT5 Prologue in November and forgot how appalling the handling was, I presume GT5 is a vastly superior iteration?
Never played the prologue. Didn't see the point.
You'll need some practice, as with everything, it makes perfect.
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 22:28
https://sites.google.com/site/gbrcthe2tommystuningguide/home
This tuning guide, whilst a little rough in terms of its English language (certainly not grammar checked) is the one I would recommend. Makes things simple and gives realistic tips along the way.
You get that down by another second and I'll need to pick a better car, my little OAP Civic is pushing what it's capable of.
I can always find something a little slower to keep things fair.
I would like to set up something once-a-week, where we announce what we'll be racing at the start of the week and then that gives everyone a week of picking a car/testing/tuning/testing/tuning/testing/tuning/re-picking a car/rinse-and-repeating on the track at hand, etc.
Would be cool, if we had enough interest, to get everyone online and create some form of mini-championship. I was fluttering around the edges of a forum that did all this for a few months ages ago (the Grumpy British Racing Club) and they really taught me the satisfaction and beauty of driving clean and competitive. I competed in one race, where everyone had to use the Lupo Cup Car, and finished 4th. It was great fun.
15 minute qualifying session followed by a 20-lap race. Then the same again and that was it for that week.
More broadly, they (as a 'racing club') had a number of different cars they considered the 'stock' for their members' garages. Each member who wanted to race as part of the club should own all of the cars in the list, to the specification laid out. In most cases, the cars would either be race-modified (having been bought new from the dealership) or won through a certain event in the GT career mode (earlier events). Tuning generally allowed.
On top of that, they had a number of 'classes' which they raced with. For example, the A-class would be BHP limit of 650 and weight restriction of at least 1,300kg, whilst the C-class might have a BHP limit of 266 with a weight restriction of at least 1,000kg. Within there, tuning would be allowed but, perhaps no race-modified cars and no aero parts.
Thus, there were one-make races but also specification races, meaning people get to bring their own preferred car and race with it.
Would love to create something of that kind of ilk on here with you guys.
As I'm sure you can all tell, I'm massively keen on my GT5.
How much time should I spend practising on the day of purchase before joining the PESGaming races?
Best thing to do would be to get yourself on the track with a couple of us and see where you are at.
If you get left for dead, then you know you need more practice. For all you know, you might be streaks ahead of all of us.
Generally speaking, the slower the cars, the more level the playing field (although I still took 25+ seconds out of Dale around 5 laps of Special Stage 5 last night with us both in a VW Golf each).
You'll need some practice, as with everything, it makes perfect.
I'm the exception as 9,677 posts and counting no doubt prove.
I'll probably skip the practise and jump in as fodder.
I can always find something a little slower to keep things fair.
Nah, PP is where the point is. I'm in for the race, the more difficult it is, the more enjoyment I'll get from the challenge. I'm weird like that.
I would like to set up something once-a-week
I really like the sound of this. It was something I would have loved to do on Forza, but there was little interest.
Just be aware I have a penchant for using/tuning shit cars, so don't think you're on a easy win when I stroll up with an old banger (and I don't mean Sminky :D)
Just be aware I have a penchant for using/tuning shit cars, so don't think you're on a easy win when I stroll up with an old banger (and I don't mean Sminky :D)
I see what you did there.
In terms of motors, any recommendations?
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 22:38
You mean out of the 1,000+ available in game? :laugh:
Honda Civic race-modified. Great car.
Proper chav-racer, too. Absolutely fucking classless.
You mean out of the 1,000+ available in game? :laugh:
Subaru Legacy. Vastly underrated. I know. I have one in real life :D
You mean out of the 1,000+ available in game? :laugh:
Honda Civic race-modified. Great car.
Proper chav-racer, too. Absolutely fucking classless.
1,000?! Flaming Nora, that's a lot of Motor.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01429/snf3012but-532s_1429989a.jpg
I'll go with Subaru to start with then, want a bit of oomph!
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 22:51
Fick - 1:35.413.
That'll do for a bedtime lap-time.
I think when you first start the game, you will be limited to a 20,000 credit car. If I recall correctly, I bought the Suzuki Swift as my first car.
I'll go with Subaru to start with then, want a bit of oomph!
You might have to wait until one is in the used showroom, or I'll see if I can sort one for you. Civic's are 10 a penny and a good choice with being nimble FWD's, where the Legacy with its AWD (all wheel drive) can be a bit of a bitch in the tighter corners.
If I recall correctly, I bought the Suzuki Swift as my first car.
Wow. My ex's sister had one of those. Uber shite.
EDIT: Ignore my senile ramblings, it was a Toyota Starlet.
Fick - 1:35.413.
That'll do for a bedtime lap-time.
Edit: I see I have some work to do yet Nifty... :hmm:
I want a motor I can gently hand brake round corners with - its a bad habit, I do it all the time on games like GTA and SR where obviously the physics aren't quite as 'realistic'.
I want a motor I can gently hand brake round corners with - its a bad habit, I do it all the time on games like GTA and SR where obviously the physics aren't quite as 'realistic'.
Taxi for Sminky...
http://www.ps3attitude.com/uploaded_images/gt5_prologue_car_deformation-729643.jpg
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 23:03
Edit: I see I have some work to do yet Nifty... :hmm:
I'm trying to work out if I can export my ghost replay for you to race against. It might give you an indication as to whether there's a possibility of keeping in touch with it or if the speed is simply the issue.
Not sure if possible, though.
Taxi for Sminky...
http://www.ps3attitude.com/uploaded_images/gt5_prologue_car_deformation-729643.jpg
I like the Number plate :laugh:
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 23:18
Just went quicker again.
1:35.184.
Just for those who are wondering - we're time trialling on Laguna Seca Raceway.
Your car of choice can be whatever you want, as long as you are running nothing better than Racing (Hard) tyres and operating at no more than 450PP.
Now it is actually bedtime.
Viperized
20-02-2012, 23:22
I want a motor I can gently hand brake round corners with - its a bad habit, I do it all the time on games like GTA and SR where obviously the physics aren't quite as 'realistic'.
This is Gran Turismo brah, not Need For Speed.
The Civic is a car which handles extremely well though. FF cars are extremely very easily to drive. Next up would be 4WD.
The faster FR and MR cars is where handling tends to get more difficult. The key to staying on the track is gentle control of the gas/brake. You wouldn't instantly ram the gas pedal in a car in real life just out of a corner on a 500hp car with no traction control, else you'll spin and end up in a wall.
It's been almost a year since I have played the game. I used to have the Driving Force GT wheel. Only cost me £38 brand new. Fantastic wheel. I sold it though, alongside the game. I'm not a very good driver - I would consider myself average in the game. But the wheel was incredibly fun to use.
They really need to develop a wireless wheel though. There is too many fucking wires with a steering wheel. There should simply be one - the power connector, and that's it.
I hope GT6 is a launch title on the PS4. I want a new GT with all premium cars + improved graphics! PS3/360 graphics are looking completely dated to me now, with the exception of very few games e.g. Killzone or Uncharted.
The Civic is a car which handles extremely well though.
Mine certainly does, just lacks punch with it only having a smallish engine, hence why I may need to change to something with a little more oomph...
IronCity
20-02-2012, 23:27
This is Gran Turismo brah, not Need For Speed.
The Civic is a car which handles extremely well though. FF cars are very easily to drive.
The faster FR cars is where handling tends to get more difficult. The key to staying on the track is gentle control of the gas/brake. You wouldn't instantly ram the gas pedal in a car in real life just out of a corner on a 500hp car with no traction control, else you'll spin and end up in a wall.
that's my problem, no touch. I have a week to learn some touch.
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 23:31
that's my problem, no touch. I have a week to learn some touch.
Just out of interest, could you hear me speaking to you during our little bout of follow-the-leader last night?
When we were racing on the Monza circuit, in the SuperLeggera cars. The track with the chicanes at the end of the long straights.
I was dishing out advice and general banter but it may have not been getting through.
Viperized
20-02-2012, 23:32
I would change accelerate and brake to R2 and L2 respectively. This gives you more fine control, instead of using the gas and brake as 'on' and 'off' switch with X and square.
To be honest, it isn't really that hard. The hard part is being good enough to be a blistering quick around the tracks :P
Turning is where things tend to go 'wrong'. What you want is:
Slow entry into a corner. Turn, progressively apply gas, then hit it hard on the exit.
Do you use the driving line? I think that'll probably help you.
IronCity
20-02-2012, 23:40
Just out of interest, could you hear me speaking to you during our little bout of follow-the-leader last night?
When we were racing on the Monza circuit, in the SuperLeggera cars. The track with the chicanes at the end of the long straights.
I was dishing out advice and general banter but it may have not been getting through.
I did hear you at the beginning but I lost a good bit of your voice during the follow and lead. Maybe you clammed up after a short while. when in the main menu you came in pretty good - some in and out but generally good.
were you talking at all during the race when dale joined in? I didn't hear you at all other than when dale hit start the race instead of drive.
I would change accelerate and brake to R2 and L2 respectively. This gives you more fine control, instead of using the gas and brake as 'on' and 'off' switch with X and square.
To be honest, it isn't really that hard. The hard part is being good enough to be a blistering quick around the tracks :P
Turning is where things tend to go 'wrong'. What you want is:
Slow entry into a corner. Turn, progressively apply gas, then hit it hard on the exit.
Do you use the driving line? I think that'll probably help you.
we weren't using the driving line last night but I admit I was previously spoiled by it and last night was the first races I haven't used it.
I like your idea of L2+R2. My thumb had had it with the x and square at the end of our session.
all and all, nifty may be the king here - we will see if someone can knock him off.
Nifty1Pound50
20-02-2012, 23:46
I would change accelerate and brake to R2 and L2 respectively. This gives you more fine control, instead of using the gas and brake as 'on' and 'off' switch with X and square.
To be honest, it isn't really that hard. The hard part is being good enough to be a blistering quick around the tracks :P
Turning is where things tend to go 'wrong'. What you want is:
Slow entry into a corner. Turn, progressively apply gas, then hit it hard on the exit.
Do you use the driving line? I think that'll probably help you.
I'd go one step further than recommending the shoulder buttons if 'touch' is the problem.
I would use the right analogue stick for accelerate/brake. Effectively, you are then using both analogue sticks for racing.
That being said, when doing it, it is quite often easy to not 'put your foot down' on the straights and accidentally ease up on the accelerator.
I was considering turning the racing line on for IronCity and abu97 last night, as they seemed to be going into corners way too hot.
That being said, it was probably also their first time without traction control being used.
I would definitely drop traction control but then use the driving line, at first. Once you're comfortable with how the car moves, then get rid of the driving line as you'll find it only slows you down.
all and all, nifty may be the king here - we will see if someone can knock him off.
I doubt it. I am actually reasonable at the game, but I'm not superstar.
I think, however, I'm the only one who - before the last few days - had played the game for months, by the sounds of it.
Before we joined together online last night, I did a couple of short races and followed that up with a 90-lap endurance race. If I was rusty before that, I was in the groove by the end of it, that's for sure!
Give it a few days of practice and you'll probably find you're matching mine and Fick's times around Laguna Seca, the lot of you.
Viperized
21-02-2012, 00:05
If you aren't playing without the driving line, the game still tells you when to brake.
When the gear change indicator comes up as red, it means you should get ready to brake. When it flashes red, then you brake.
This is pretty much what I do, instead of trying to 'learn' every corner of every track.
If you aren't playing without the driving line, the game still tells you when to brake.
When the gear change indicator comes up as red, it means you should get ready to brake. When it flashes red, then you brake.
This is pretty much what I do, instead of trying to 'learn' every corner of every track.
I'm sure the indicator is flashing to tell you the ideal gear (and that you are late selecting it). It's a safe measure, but not wholly accurate.
Regardless, the only true way to be fast on a circuit is to learn it. I have driven more laps on various iterations of Laguna than I care to remember, so have a pretty good idea of the track, but every game is different and it takes a while to re-lean for the individual title.
Well I certainly was rusty, that's for sure. I need to get back into the swing of things. Get my gear ratios sorted, instead of jumping into my Nissan Micra Cup Car onto tracks with HUGE straights :lol: That car murders on tiny tracks, and that must have been what I was using it for when I stopped playing ages ago.
Also, I found that I don't really have enough cars in my garage man. Especially not enough to choose certain BHP as a restrictor in the races. I need to get money through racing and build up a repertoire of cars that i'm comfortable jumping into. As of now i've probably only got one car that i'm comfortable racing in, and that's my sexy Plymouth Cuda. Damn I love that car. Proper pimp slap the shit outta' you, kinda car. If you seen it you'd understand :lol:
and that's my sexy Plymouth Cuda. Damn I love that car. Proper pimp slap the shit outta' you, kinda car. If you seen it you'd understand :lol:
That the purple pimp machine Dale?
IronCity
21-02-2012, 14:21
I bet that cuda rides like a sled. I bought the 70 Merc Cougar (w/ gold exterior) and proceeded to slide all over the track.
In real life, my friend used to have a 73 Cuda back when I was in high school - I think it had a 340 six pack. we used to raise hell with that thing. I had a 73 Olds Cutlass with a rocket 350 as my first car (complete with rusted fenders/holes in the floor, etc). We used drag race but it couldn't keep up with that cuda. I used to be one of those people that would buy a shit muscle car thinking I would fix the body and paint it to make it a dream but ended up just beating it with tiger hair all over the body exterior
http://www.evercoat.com/imgs/products/Tiger%20Hair.jpg
edit: had to add this picture because it brought back such memories - this was the typical first step for every one of those old muscle cars I owned; the ol wheel well rust support.
http://www.cherokeeforum.com/attachments/f67/43335d1301860405t-rear-wheel-well-pinch-weld-repair-bushwackers-picture-082.jpg
Serious envy going on here :folarm:
I love muscle cars, but don't live in the right place to have one (only have room for 2 cars - no space for a third :no:). My dream one would be a 67 GTO (not the shitty fastback, but the saloon), or failing that, a Chevelle from the same period. As it is I have to live the dream vicariously through games.
Back to the challenge... I've had another tinker with my Civic & can get no lower than 1:36.323. Tried with a 320i Touring car, 1:36.219, but losing so much HP to meet the 450pp limit.
Temped to try tuning a road car as dumbing down tourers is no fun... :hmm:
Makavelian
21-02-2012, 15:07
I've just got a playstation so I'll be joining in the fun soon.
Not for a couple of weeks though because I'm moving house on Thursday and sky said it's going to take 2 weeks to get the broadband setup:[.
I'm pretty good at racing games because I play sim bin racing games on the pc so hopefully I can compete with the best of you guys.
I've got a question for you guys, what control setup do you use?
I dont think I can go back to using x for accelerate and square for breaking again.
Being so used to using the 360 controller triggers for forza and pc games it's going to be shit using the ancient control scheme again.
I've seen they sell triggers for the r2/l2 shoulder buttons . Does this give the ability to control breaking and acceleration more like the 360 triggers, or are the ps3 r2/L2 buttons 'not pressure sensitive?
I've got a question for you guys, what control setup do you use?
I dont think I can go back to using x for accelerate and square for breaking again.
Being so used to using the 360 controller triggers for forza and pc games it's going to be shit using the ancient control scheme again.
I've seen they sell triggers for the r2/l2 shoulder buttons . Does this give the ability to control breaking and acceleration more like the 360 triggers, or are the ps3 r2/L2 buttons 'not pressure sensitive?
Look forward to you getting involved - the more the merrier ;)
the triggers (L1 & L2) behave exactly the same as the 360 controller, so you can have a identical set-up to Forza. The triggers have more 'spring' so you can actually get a better throttle/brake feel than on the 360 controller. The sticks are crap in comparison though and will take you a wee while to get used to.
IronCity
21-02-2012, 15:15
I was all "geared" up to chance my accel and break to the shoulder buttons but never booted up the game last night. I think anything would be better than x and square that I am using now. Nifty mentions using the right analog for accel (forward) and brake (back). this sounds interesting.
I am also thinking of R2 accel, R1 break so I don't have to manipulate my forefinger on my steering hand. I think this may give a better sim feel of driving with one foot. see you soon Mak.
Viperized
21-02-2012, 15:17
R2 gas
L2 brake
analog steering
easiest control method.
For manual, shift up = R1, shift down = L1
I was all "geared" up to chance my accel and break to the shoulder buttons but never booted up the game last night. I think anything would be better than x and square that I am using now. Nifty mentions using the right analog for accel (forward) and brake (back). this sounds interesting.
I am also thinking of R2 accel, R1 break so I don't have to manipulate my forefinger on my steering hand. I think this may give a better sim feel of driving with one foot. see you soon Mak.
The analogue on R1 will give you nowhere near as much control. R2 & L2 are the only real way to go. You may find the stick for acc/brake a bit vague as Nifty said, but trying out the various methods is the only way you'll know for sure.
Either way, all options are better than X & square!
IronCity
21-02-2012, 15:22
as soon as I read your post to Mak on the trigger springs it made me rethink R1 for break in lieu of L2
I am still playing this game too much out of the box. the only thing I changed was to get rid of any control for the horn.
Makavelian
21-02-2012, 15:24
You guys all have mic's?
Any advise on cheap mic's that do a job?
IronCity
21-02-2012, 15:28
Nifty posted this one yesterday:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/ORB-Wireless-Bluetooth-PS3-Headset/dp/B000A63KW4
One other little thing that might help, you can get clip-on extensions for the trigger buttons! the curved nature of the R+L2 buttons means that prolonged use of these can cause strain to the old digits. I got a set of these things with a magazine some years ago & they are a blessing (although I fear they are in the same place as my b/tooth headset that I can't find :facepalm:)
www.amazon.co.uk/Gioteck-PL-6388-Real-Triggers-PS3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gioteck-PL-6388-Real-Triggers-PS3/dp/B001AW156U)
They are definitely a love/hate thing though.
Makavelian
21-02-2012, 15:34
Yes, there the ones I was looking at fick.
Seen as you own a 360 as well fick, how would you say these compare to the xbox triggers for racing games and shooters?
Yes, there the ones I was looking at fick.
Seen as you own a 360 as well fick, how would you say these compare to the xbox triggers for racing games and shooters?
For me, the 360 controller is much better for FPS & racing. Saying that though, I used to hate it when I fist got one, being so used to PS controllers :D
Now though, I just find the PS controller a little small for my man hands.
Just had a play with the room set-up. Pretty easy and straightforward.
If Nifty hasn't, then I'll set up a room for some practice later tonight.. will call it Pesgaming Test - Invite only
Abu - sorry about the racing line comment, was not meant to be derogatory, didn't know how much experience you had, or that you were a higher level in offline than I :D
I didn't look at your comment in that way, I thought you were just asking the question in general.
Also Fick, whats your best lap time with the Mugen Motul around Leguna Seca, mine is 1min 43secs eventhough I tried it 3 times.
And regarding the post you made before, I too had problems with the PS3 controller as they were too small for my hands. I purchased this one from Argos and it helped a bit...
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9289633/Trail/searchtext%3EPS3+CONTROLLER.ht m
1:36.323, bear in mind that i've tuned it, then backed the PP to 450, leaving it at 215bhp.
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