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As I have seen, there are a lot of hiphop fans over here (Nifty, Mutu, Flipper and me) I thought it would be nice to have a hiphop thread to discuss everything about hiphop.
There are some real good albums on their way and of course also less good albums :p , I mention some D12 - D12 world, Talib Kweli - ?Kwelity?, Cypress Hil - till death do us part, Raekwon - The Hood, Mobb Deep - Americas Nightmare, Cormega - Legal Hustle, Snoop Dogg - Snoopafly and I bet there are more. I already heard some numbers of the new D12 album for example My Band, great song. If their whole album is this quality then we have a classic. Havent heard much of the new Cypress Hill album, but Im not such a fan of them. But if they release a good album I will of course buy it! I dont have to talk about Talib Kweli that man is a genius and I bet his album is also. Im also curious to the new Raekwon album, havent heard much of him last year. Maybe he is gonna suprise us with a great album, he has the capabilities for it. Then Mobb Deep, tjah last album of them wasnt good it was worse! So Im not curious to this one. Cormega is also gonna release a new album in spring 2004, I dont have his last album but I have some numbers of the last album, real good! I should buy his album but I always forget to buy...but i wont buy his album if there is a new one on the way. Last but not least Snoop Dogg; I wasnt very impressed by his last album, I hope he will blow me away with this album.
Another thing KRS-One also released a new album for free! You can download the whole album HERE (http://www.templeofhiphop.org/) Havent dowloaded it yet, someone else maybe?
Another another thing :cool: I havent heard someone about Jaylib. There last album (Jaylib - Champion Sound) isnt that old (few months) But their album is very good. Before I continue this is for the ''Noobs'' Jaylib = J Dilla and Madlib together. They are normally 2 producers but now they have made a album as you have read. Now about the album, although their rhyme isnt a nice flow like Talib Kweli, the numbers are great mainly because the superb beats and chorus and some nice co-raps of Percy P and Talib Kweli and more. So definaltely a must have for HipHop fans!
Just have been to Paradiso (THE hiphop temple in Amsterdam) Obie Trice and his crew were on live-on-stage. I must say Obie and his crew can build a party!! I havent bored myself in more then 2,5 hours. Of course they always tell us how much they like Holland. I dont have to explain myself here I gues ;)
What do I wanna say with this? If Obie is coming to your country, you should definaltely go! Its absolutly worth the money!
Thats it folks!
See Ya
GFK :cool:
Me too, as you can see in my Sig, ive got some news for all you G-Unit lovers, Lloyd Banks album drops May 26th, it should be quite good, as he is the best rapper in G-Unit, the album will include songs with, Mya, Alisha Keys, 50 Cent and co., Eminem, Dr Dre, X-Zibit, and more
Some more news, some of you may already know this...
Eminem is being tapped to play the starring role of a comic book anti-hero in the upcoming movie debut of 'Wanted.'
Comic book writer Mark Millar is bringing his super villain comic book series "Wanted" to the silver screen and he's looking at rap's own Marshall Mathers for the starring role. According to The Times Online the creator is in final negotiations with Universal Pictures the film deal and Eminem is already in talks to play the pathetic lead character turned super-hero, Wesley Gibson.
"I'm really excited about the possibility of Marshall playing the lead role," Millar said, "and Universal have already been in talks with his people, and also lined up one of the top five producers in Hollywood."
The Wesley character, who already resembles the blond-haired Eminem in the comic, leads a dull life with a dead-end job and a girlfriend who he knows is cheating on him but is to wimpy to do anything about it. Wesley's life changes overnight when he wakes up one day and his world is out of sync. He later discovers he has extraordinary powers that come with an extraordinary price.
I had three years of writing about superheroes, so last year I wanted to do something that was really bad. Films about the bad guys are always far more interesting and this is the most violent and evil thing that I have ever written," says Millar.
Millar will also reportedly be executive producer of the film. He is interested in getting Tommy Lee Jones and Beyonce Knowles for other villainous roles.
d12 arent hiphop :confused:
saw cypress hill in milton keynes and they were class, sound failed for a bit so to keep the crowd sweet they did some live drumming and some acapella MCing so i got a lot of respect for them now dont diss em ya hear ;)
was some nice stuff on champion sound and i didnt know they were bringing out a new one so soon so thanks for that G :) ill look it up
oh and im downloading the krs1 album now thanks again, need something to listen to at the moment all i hav on my pc is crap
d12 arent hiphop :confused:
Yeah i know, i used to like em', i got there first album, but now i think they are shit and they cant rap
Yeah i know, i used to like em', i got there first album, but now i think they are shit and they cant rap
Uhm D12 isnt much without Eminem I agree, but still I love to listen to Bizarre that man is so fucking insane.
BTW did I say Jaylib is releasing another cd mutu? :confused:
Bizarre is a joker, have they brought the new video out yet ?
I used to love that song: 'Shit on you'
crap i thought you said they were :mad: was a bit confused about that
nevermind :)
Yeah they are but i used to like that song, and i would like to see there new video, cause i like eminem
dude what the fuck are you talking about stop talking about d12 i was replying to gfk about what he said about jaylib and a new album
d12 aint for this thread take it elsewhere you just replied again to my post for no reason
sorry to snap but you seem to be getting confused
Fuck it anwayz, lets talk about snoop dogg or somthin',
will his next album be his last ?
no lets not because this is a hiphop thread or is supposed to be
if you dont know anyone were talking about dont bother replying and make a snoop dogg thread
looks like this ones ruined already :( :o
Nifty1Pound50
17-03-2004, 01:49
By "hip-hop" we mean non-commercial rap.
Rap is commercial.
Hip-hop isn't.
That's the difference. Officially.
Talib Kweli's bringing a new album soon - I've just heard "Lonely People" from that - and it's a good tune, usual lyrical precision. That'll be a must buy.
no lets not because this is a hiphop thread or is supposed to be
if you dont know anyone were talking about dont bother replying and make a snoop dogg thread
looks like this ones ruined already :( :o
Just shut the 'F' up will you and stop trying to cause beef, i tryed to change to subject, and you just won't have it will you, so let's just forget it now ok...
no lets not im not trying to cause beef
GFK took the time to make this thread and you don't decide when we change the subject so no i "wont have it" -if you want to make a seperate snoop dogg thread then go do it
dont try take your anger out on me coz u flopped, you're spamming the hell out of everywhere and all i did was try and stop it, i wasnt talking to you as i was trying to ignore you in the hope that you'd go away but you still managed to slip another d12 reply in
last time i checked you had 7 posts out of 14 in this thread - you do the math and figure out what percentage that is
its a forum chill out and go make another g-unit thread or something
and nifty his whole albums been leaked online (but unfinished) by his recording studio or some shit thats what i heard
my mates got it and he'll be burning it sometime soon, so you go look out for it
i aint trying to change the subject, i just wanted da beefin' to stop... so just end it blood...
Whats the album called ?
Flipper the Priest
17-03-2004, 03:00
I like beef.
Sometimes if there's any left I'll use it in a sandwich the next day.
I like beef.
Sometimes if there's any left I'll use it in a sandwich the next day.
Haha fuck of! :p
Its such a shame the new album of Talib has leaked out, he dont deserve that! Of course the real fans will buy his albums, but there are always people which ruin the careers of Hiphopers by downloading cds only.
Just read what Talibs reaction was:
"Some asshole from a recording studio leaks my unfinished, unmixed and uneven album. If you are a fan of my music, allow me to live off it, so I can continue to bring it to you."
I hope we all do! That man deserves it! And i would fire those assholes directly, faggots.
BTW the title of the new album is ''Beatiful Struggle''
And mutu do you have the new cd of KRS-One already? Is it good?
Cheers
GFK
Nifty1Pound50
17-03-2004, 03:45
Calm down girls. Ain't no beef required,
'Cos you're both comin' in with punch-lines that'd leave a boxer fired.
Don't make me come in and proverbially bitch-slap 'n' hand-clap all these haterz who be bee-poppin' in da hood like a summer flow summer show runner dro'.
On a side-note, mutu - I'll be buying Kweli's new album, fresh from the shops. I support artists like Kweli who I genuinely like by buying their music because as far as I'm concerned he's earned his percentage of the tenner I'll pay for it.
does anybody like kanye west, i got his album i like the jay z song and through the wire the lyrics are nice
Havent heard Kanye West new album, I should....hope I get his album soon. But his latest single with jamie foxxx (right??) was awful, what a terrible number! Such a irritating tune, argh its doing me head in!
Nifty1Pound50
17-03-2004, 04:20
Kanye West's album is pretty decent for a debut from a producer, but it ain't going to be a groundbreaker.
He's tried something new, I s'pose, but with only limited success.
He's simply not good enough to be a lyricist, in my opinion, stick to producing and quick cameo flashes - something à la Timbaland.
was he a producer b4 i didnt know i only heaqrd of jim recently cos i was recomended to but the album so i did
Nifty1Pound50
17-03-2004, 04:26
Kanye West produced most, if not all, of his album. He also produced "Lucifer" and one other Jay-Z tune on "The Black Album" - and has a pretty good CV as a producer. He's first and foremost that, and this is his debut album as a converted lyricist, if you like.
well i really like the lyrics, like they touch my heart ... LOL
no seriously they do
Yes Kanye is original a producer, but just what nifty said he is trying something news. I think it will be by one album, but who knows?
Calm down girls. Ain't no beef required,
'Cos you're both comin' in with punch-lines that'd leave a boxer fired.
Don't make me come in and proverbially bitch-slap 'n' hand-clap all these haterz who be bee-poppin' in da hood like a summer flow summer show runner dro'.
On a side-note, mutu - I'll be buying Kweli's new album, fresh from the shops. I support artists like Kweli who I genuinely like by buying their music because as far as I'm concerned he's earned his percentage of the tenner I'll pay for it.
i'm obviously gonna buy it, no point not listning to it if i can hear it now though is there :rolleyes:
and i agree, the people that do that kind of thing are dykes - to relate this to gaming the same thing happened with early Halflife 2 code and thats delayed the game for about 6 months now just because of one twat :mad:
havnt heard wests album and didnt even know it existed i havnt been keepin up with the news apart from the kweli leak :(
thanks for not continuein the beef kcg i was in a bad mood i think :confused: - sorry
thanks for not continuein the beef kcg i was in a bad mood i think :confused: - sorry
No probs mate... ;)
Ive listen to of Kanye Wests album 'College Drop Out' and some of the tracks are quite good... its worth a buy... :)
yeah came out on the feb 2nd in uk
Miccolino
18-03-2004, 08:23
By "hip-hop" we mean non-commercial rap.
Rap is commercial.
Hip-hop isn't.
That's the difference. Officially.
Lol, okay...
Still havent answered my question mutu!!:(:)
Have you downloaded KRS-One already? Is it good??
Some news for the RAP fans, nifty :) 50cents new albums have been delayed, 50 isnt statsified with the results so far. The album will come out in October instead of July.
Nifty, I have heard canibus - behind enemy rhymes, it took me some time before i discovered what he is rapping about, its a nice song. I will download some more songs by him, Im curious what he is all about. Can you say the name of the latest CD by Canibus, and if its any good?
Cheers
October, thats too long...
Well Lloyd Banks album comes out May25th or 26th, ill havve that to look forward too.
Do any of you listen to him ?!?!?!?!?!
i do hes best in g unit by far... altho i aint herd the new guy thats spose to have joined....
ne of u lot heard klashyanekoff or summin in Terrafirma hes got a trak on channel u which is quality...
i cant get 'hold of' behind enemy rythmes :( sux lol
wr there any good albums cumin out soon, like eminem
wr there any good albums cumin out soon, like eminem
Eminem, said he'lll start working on he's after the D-12 project, that he has finished, so he'll be working on his now...
Anywayz, we are only talking about non-commercial rap in this Topic, so ill make another, thread where you can speak about G-unit, eminem, ect...
This tread is for HipHop not rap, so i dont want anyone to mess it up, like i nearly did ;)
Ill make one now :)
soz ma bad, have u made the thread or should i?
he knows that youve already made and you already know that he knows that because hes already posted in it and youve already replied :mad:
havnt listened to it yet gfk will now
edit: just after a i eat, mmm curry
Nifty1Pound50
19-03-2004, 03:49
Wow, this thread is like a hill. It started at the top of the page (hill) and has somewhat quickly gone down the page (hill), because of the low quality (or high Kwelity™) of dickheads posting in it.
Eminem is gay.
50 Cent is gay. I hope his album delays for life.
Lloyd Banks isn't gay. I hope his album's good, and doesn't have 50 Cent on it as much as I know it will have him on it because he's his arse-chum. So, in effect, Lloyd Banks is gay after all. Oh how I love spontaneous thought.
On "Behind Enemy Rhymes," Canibus' flow is seriously tongue-twisting and mind-boggling. Some of the lyrics are just too much to take in. Canibus kicks the tune off with:
When the curriculum storms
Modern rap history is reborn
In CD code in the form of a poem
Anyone who studied Canibus' past
Knows he has the answers
To the questions you probably not advanced enough to ask
Later on in the tune, he gets a bit more merciless and starts spitting the longer, multi-syllable words. I don't really know those off of the top of my head, but I'll say this much - they're sick. Disgustingly quality. Amazingly baffling, yet somehow perfect.
As far as Canibus' newest album goes, it's called Rip the Jacker, and it's definitely worth getting. It's only 11 tracks - but at last it's a well-produced Canibus album. Instead of going for commercial rubbish, he's gone with Stoupe (from Jedi Mind Tricks), and given him full control behind the production boards. It gives the album a more "together" feel, instead of a jumbled collaboration. The final tune, "Poet Laureate II" is seven - yes, seven - minutes of lyrical precision from Canibus, with no chorus (rather like "100 Bars"). However, the beat changes a few times to fit in with the rhyming on this tune, and it is very good.
Nifty's Somewhat-Unofficial Rating of "Canibus - Rip the Jacker" - 8/10
The reason it's not a 9 or a 10, is because the man's capable of producing quality, but only (in effect) fills just over half-a-CD with 11 tracks. Why not drop 16? Or 18? If they were all this good, it'd be an 11 out of 10 rating. :D
ne1 a member of goldmic.com? its well quality
read sum verses form this guy intro hes well amazin reminds me of eminem from his pic :o kcg'll like that ;)
none of them albums that you mentioned aint gonna be ne good xcept maybe the new Kweli, the new Snoop will be awful as its gonna be exec produced by P.Diddy, this year aint been too bad so far for albums such as Kayne Wests, Z-Ro's, but the best albums to come out will either be C-Bo & Yukmouth's Thugz Lordz or maybe if we ever hear a new Above The Law album
also maybe if we hear Rakim's release that got shelved at Aftermath, i mean it aint the first time Dr. "Gay" Dre has shelved a top artist for another pop start, same with what happened when he dropped King-T for Eminem, and King-T's "Thy Kingdom Come" is classic westcoast and wudda been one of the best Aftermath releases and is way better than nething Slim has ever done, and now he does the same with the GOAT for shitty 50 Cent and G-Unit
he knows that youve already made and you already know that he knows that because hes already posted in it and youve already replied :mad:
havnt listened to it yet gfk will now
edit: just after a i eat, mmm curry
I dont usally look at the username very often, i just read the post, thats why...
And jonny stop posting to diffrent posts in a row, just edit your first post !!!
Henry_IS_God
19-03-2004, 18:38
Eminem is the best rapper around by far!
have they completed the album yet? (D-12 & eminem)
Eminem is the best rapper around by far!
have they completed the album yet? (D-12 & eminem)
Wrong thread mate...http://forum.pesinsight.com/showthread.php?t=8214
Mmm I think i will buy Canibus album, seems definalety worth the buy.
@ Jonny you really think Above the Law can impress?? Man that guy is a old muthafucker I havent heard one good number of that guy. Im also not impressed by Yukmouth. Although I agreee with you with the Commercial rap is shite.
Any news already on Talibs new album? Cant find much more then what I have posted.
Very sad news, the complete new album of Talib Kweli have been leaked out.....
This was Talibs comment:
You know what, I’m a fan of hip-hop too. If I had a chance to get a hold of one of my favorite artists CD’s early, I would jump at it. So if some asshole from a recording studio leaks my unfinished, unmixed and uneven album, consider it a personal triumph. Play it for your friends, and if you like it, buy the version I want you to have. If you are a fan of my music, allow me to live off it so I can continue to bring it to you. But once you put it on a website and encourage people to download it, you become the bigger asshole. You are not respecting my artistic process and worse, you are taking food out of my children’s mouth. The shit is depressing really because I work so hard and I deserve the right to determine how I want my music presented. If you are truly a fan of my music, please do not support people who do this, no matter what the temptation might be. This music is what I have to live on. You also disrespect the other artists by spreading rough vocals and rough mixes. You really don’t give a fuck about nobody but yourself. It’s sad.
ImRickJamesBitch, are you that much of a loser that you gotta live off another man’s work? Put your own fuckin’ album on your website. Get you some pro tools, pay producers and studio time, get guest artits to come be on your shit. Then maybe you won’t be tempted to just disrespect somebody’s craft. Kanye shipped 800,000 records. How many records do you think I will ship? But yet you couldn’t resist to expose MY album? That shit is not fly. I will find out who you are and you will be dealt with accordingly. This is no threat. To everyone else, I am blessed that there is so much anticipation for what I hope will be a great album. I have never gone gold or platinum. If you think I should be by now please don’t support or do shit like ImRickJamesBitch; that shit does not help. I have a mixtape coming next week. Download that. Please help my cause, don’t hurt it, and I will always be the best artist I can be.
Talib Kweli
Cheers
BTW sorry for 4 posts in a row, but thats the only way to get the Thread back on top.
Miccolino
25-03-2004, 19:06
Question: If Talib Qweli's next album goes platinum and a single hits the top of the charts does it mean he can't be talked about in this thread anymore or be called hip-hop?
i was just going to ask a question like that
Let me say that Nifty can answer this question perfect. Bit difficult for me too explain., But its not like, your famous so you are a rapstar, you are underground you are a hiphop star. So whats wrong with Talib being famous? Nothing I do hope he will be famous so he earns the money he deserves. It isnt as easy as I say, but NIfty can explain this much clearer to you, and I know Nifty things the same way as me.
Cheers
GFK
Manhester United and AC Milan are simply the best...
yeh you're right, it's a shame manchester united are shite though init? :D
There shite at the moment.... at least AC milan are on good form :rolleyes:
Mmm I think i will buy Canibus album, seems definalety worth the buy.
@ Jonny you really think Above the Law can impress?? Man that guy is a old muthafucker I havent heard one good number of that guy. Im also not impressed by Yukmouth. Although I agreee with you with the Commercial rap is shite.Above The Law is a group man, u serious theyve dropped nothin but classic material they are one of the most consistent groups of all time without a doubt.... jus check out Black Superman to see what they are all about, and without ATL ther wud be no G-Funk!!
Question: If Talib Qweli's next album goes platinum and a single hits the top of the charts does it mean he can't be talked about in this thread anymore or be called hip-hop?that depends whether or not he sells out along the way such as the afformentioned Ja-Rule or 50 Cent, or he just keeps on rapping with his usual knowledgeable subjects and deep poetic lyrics that he normally spits
Above The Law is a group man, u serious theyve dropped nothin but classic material they are one of the most consistent groups of all time without a doubt.... jus check out Black Superman to see what they are all about, and without ATL ther wud be no G-Funk!!
hahah never knew they were a group, it doesnt make sense, i still think they arent good.
hahah never knew they were a group, it doesnt make sense, i still think they arent good.it usually makes sense if thers 3 members which makes them a group lol, and what stuff of theirs have u heard?? and Yukmouths last album wasnt his best but he been holding it down ever since he was in The Luniz
it usually makes sense if thers 3 members which makes them a group lol, and what stuff of theirs have u heard?? and Yukmouths last album wasnt his best but he been holding it down ever since he was in The Luniz
Yeah I must admit I havent heard so much of them that I can make an opinion, my apologies. But sometimes you have that after a few songs, you think: ''Jeez this is bad'' and then you never listen or download them again. I have heard, uhm let me think, murder rap, black superman and black mafia life and some more which name I forgot. But what I said before, thats not much to give an opinion about them....
Cheers
Yeah I must admit I havent heard so much of them that I can make an opinion, my apologies. But sometimes you have that after a few songs, you think: ''Jeez this is bad'' and then you never listen or download them again. I have heard, uhm let me think, murder rap, black superman and black mafia life and some more which name I forgot. But what I said before, thats not much to give an opinion about them....
Cheersu shud try n download the albums Uncle Sam's Curse, Time Will Reveal and Legends and give them a good listen
Was in Amsterdam today:) just bought two new cds: Big Pun - Capital Punishment and Tha Liks - *X.O. Experience. I know these are old, of course I know most numbers, but now I have all numbers and Legal and it was cheap as hell!
Currently bouncing on tha Liks.............
Soon getting Talib Kwelis new album (internetversion) Man future is bright!
Back to the music!
Cheers
Nifty1Pound50
28-03-2004, 01:42
Miccolino, with reference to the question:
You seem to be trying to make a very clear divide between hip-hop and rap, and you seem to be laying all of your efforts into proving how needless having two separate threads is. I don't know why you're doing so. As far as I'm concerned, even if Talib Kweli sells 400,000 million records, and has a number one single - he won't have sold out. He's making thoughtful music, which isn't specifically aimed at 12 year old girls in order to sell copies. If they like it anyway, then that's a bonus. But a rapper sells out when he intentionally sets out to do so.
so they arent strictly hiphop but i thought id bring this in here anyway: who's heard fly or die and what do you think of it
ive just listened to the first few tracks so far and it's total shite, i never knew they were so rockish
go back to sampling in other peoples tunes pharrell :mad:
Celtic420
28-03-2004, 08:09
let's get this straight, Hip Hop is a culture. Rapping is speaking in rhyme. Rap is the term white music execs use to describe hip hop music. Hip Hop is about competing to entertain by bringing more skill and style. Rapping, Djing and Breaking all use battling to determine who is better. Graffiti is also highly focussed on style and competing.
Those are the roots, nowadays the hip hop music that is released isn't battle music, but true hip hop artists base their efforts on those skills. people like 50 cent, Ja Rule and Lil Jon have nothing to do with hip hop. they grew up as outside hip hop culture as an irishman from Kerry. They imitate others and rap badly with catchy hooks on pop beats. this is what most people refer to as rap music.
Some mainstream artists stay true to hip hop's traditions. Jay Z, Nas and Outkast spring to mind. although it is only the un-hip-hop songs that ever make it onto the radio or MTV
Here's a tip: if you go to a show and the DJ doesn't get solo time, or worse there isn't one, then it is NOT hip hop. If there are no drums in the beat it is NOT hip hop. if the hook takes up more than 20% of the song it is NOT hip hop. hope this helps
Celtic420
28-03-2004, 08:19
so anyway, I just copt MF Doom's "Is Viktor Vaugh Vauveville Villain?" and RJD2's promo version of his new album "since we last spoke". both are pretty hard but, RJ kinda fell off. this isn't half the album Dead Ringer was.
so I am into underground and instrumentalism. Anticon, Def Jux, Hieroglyphics, People Under the Stairs, DJ Shadow, Dan the Automator, etc. if anyone feels me let me know,
and here is an amazing resource for y'all: http://www.sandboxautomatic.com/
Was in Amsterdam today:) just bought two new cds: Big Pun - Capital Punishment and Tha Liks - *X.O. Experience. I know these are old, of course I know most numbers, but now I have all numbers and Legal and it was cheap as hell!
Currently bouncing on tha Liks.............
Soon getting Talib Kwelis new album (internetversion) Man future is bright!
Back to the music!
Cheersthat Liks album is 1 of my fav of all time, the beats on ther are banging with the Liks usual comical twist it is without doubt a classic, very diff to ther other 3 albums, the DVD is funny as fuck too
that Liks album is 1 of my fav of all time, the beats on ther are banging with the Liks usual comical twist it is without doubt a classic, very diff to ther other 3 albums, the DVD is funny as fuck too
YEah Tha Liks are great!
Celtic dont know one of the underground hiphoppers you mentioned:) I think that isnt that good compared to what we have mentioned. Sometimes you have some nice underground songs, but for me its more NOT then YEAH.
Celtic420
29-03-2004, 03:18
Celtic dont know one of the underground hiphoppers you mentioned:) I think that isnt that good compared to what we have mentioned. Sometimes you have some nice underground songs, but for me its more NOT then YEAH.
well if you don't know any of them then how can you criticize? if you like pun and tha liks then I guarantee you will like Hieroglyphics. check out People Under the Stairs too. and btw John Blaze off Capital Punishment is one of the hardest tracks ever! ;)
well if you don't know any of them then how can you criticize? if you like pun and tha liks then I guarantee you will like Hieroglyphics. check out People Under the Stairs too. and btw John Blaze off Capital Punishment is one of the hardest tracks ever! ;)
Well Im not criticize, of course I heard some underground numbers. But I think they werent that good. Maybe I should listen the ones you numbered, who knows it changes mine predictions...
Miccolino
30-03-2004, 04:05
Miccolino, with reference to the question:
You seem to be trying to make a very clear divide between hip-hop and rap, and you seem to be laying all of your efforts into proving how needless having two separate threads is. I don't know why you're doing so.
No I'm not making a divide, and after a single question about your definition I wouldn't call that 'all my efforts' to do anything.
I'm just commenting on your "Rap is commercial. Hip-hop isn't" announcement and how some of u seem to get offended by the mere mention of someone like Snoop Dogg in here. Because no that isn't 'OFFICIAL', it's just your definition. Of course Snoop is hip-hop, he may not be doing it so well these days but he's still hip-hop. Of course 50 Cent is hip-hop. And sure, Nas makes rap music. But I'm not gonna argue on this. Just pointing out. Carry on ur lil club.
Just heard that the complete album isnt out, its just a promo?! Strange....
Of course I was talking about Talib Kweli,.
Tha Liks is also coming with a new album soon!!:D:D:D
Tha Liks is also coming with a new album soon!!:D:D:Dwell they aint done shit since 2001, but u heard Tash's solo album Rap Life, another oustanding effort, the track Rap Life with Raekwon is the shit
Celtic420
05-04-2004, 06:26
Of course 50 Cent is hip-hop.
People tend to think that talent only exists among non-mainstream artists. They are not mutually exclusive, nor are they always linked. but 50 Cent? bad example. he is the worst example of talentless marketing driven music. He has zero input in production, his rhymes are simplistic and repetetive, he cannot freestyle, his hooks are always longer than his flows, in short 50 Cent is garbage. he is a wannabe 2pac who is as hip hop as limp bizkit.
Does anyone listen to, Trick Daddy, T.I, or Memphis Bleek
youll probably think that i have jumped on the commercial 50 cent bandwagon after this post but i have to stress the fact thea 50 cent is not talentless. he has a lot of talent you just need to hear his earlier albums. listen to albums like 24 shots, guess whos back, power of the dollar. These albums show his talent. Have you heard how to rob.i would never say 50 cent is the best rapper at the present time but he is not average nor is he talentless. your just trying to make out that you only listen to uncommercialised material and everyone who tries to do that seems to have a go at 50 to show it. dont worry everyone will start dissin someone else just liked they moved on from nelly.
Yeah, your right mate, ive got Guess Who's Back, good album
youll probably think that i have jumped on the commercial 50 cent bandwagon after this post but i have to stress the fact thea 50 cent is not talentless. he has a lot of talent you just need to hear his earlier albums. listen to albums like 24 shots, guess whos back, power of the dollar. These albums show his talent. Have you heard how to rob.i would never say 50 cent is the best rapper at the present time but he is not average nor is he talentless. your just trying to make out that you only listen to uncommercialised material and everyone who tries to do that seems to have a go at 50 to show it. dont worry everyone will start dissin someone else just liked they moved on from nelly.i jus find it rather critical how he disses Ja-Rule for all this "pop" rap and other ppl, then he does a song like 21 Questions u gotta laugh at shit like that, and just got my tickets to see Wu-Tang in London in July
Can't be bothered to read through this thread so I'll just contribute now and say that Big Pun is the greatest ever hiphop artist. Fella's like a human thesaurus.
well all im gonna say is that eminem is the best rapper alive
why is eminem the greatest rapper alive? the guy could be but he lets himself down. ppl are talking about ja rule and 50 cent doing love songs but eminem he goes one step further and does songs about nothing. my name is, the real slim shady, my band, and many more. the greatest rapper alive is JAY-Z and theres no arguing it!
eminem is the best rapper alive because hes got da best flow,dope lyrics,hes in the best record label(shady/aftermath)and hes one of the most famous muthafuckas on the planet.
ps.i rank jay as high as eminem
how is shady/aftermath the best record label around. i mean name the amazing artists on it
alright it might not be the best but it does have gunit obie trice d12 and although they arent very good rappers dey do sell a shedload of cds.
alright it might not be the best but it does have gunit obie trice d12 and although they arent very good rappers dey do sell a shedload of cds.well then that dont make them the best label now does it..... no label id say today has a shit loads of talent like back in the day that Death Row or Ruthless used to have
yep i agree.although aftermath just signed eve,busta and the game....
no label id say today has a shit loads of talent like back in the day that Death Row or Ruthless used to have
DEF JAM or ROC-A-FELLA (part of def jam) think about it all the def jam artisis, jay-Z, Freeway, Memphis Bleek, Kanye west, ludacris, young gunz, ghostface, DMX, method man, wu tang, ja rule, cam,ron joe budden, ll cool j, redman. well id say say they are runin the game now
You forgot M.O.P ;)
I agree with Jonny most times, he knows his stuff very well just like me with the editing :D:D So thats why I dont reply anymore, Jonny is always earlier and replies in amuch more clearer way. So thank you Jonny!
Cya
yep i agree.although aftermath just signed eve,busta and the game....Eve is awful, she cant rap for shit, she already signed and left Aftermath once back in the day, Busta well he sold out big time in the last year, was alot better when he was in the Flipmode Squad, The Game he is just appauling really, hes from Compton but he biting an eastcoast flow, he trys to rap all NWA but at the same time he sounds like a cross between Shyne & Biggie
DEF JAM or ROC-A-FELLA (part of def jam) think about it all the def jam artisis, jay-Z, Freeway, Memphis Bleek, Kanye west, ludacris, young gunz, ghostface, DMX, method man, wu tang, ja rule, cam,ron joe budden, ll cool j, redman. well id say say they are runin the game nowWu Tang arent signed to Def Jam if im not mistaken, now lemme see out of all them artists, LL Cool J fell off 10 years ago, Cam'Ron he jus a faggot, Method Man's new solo will be shite since he been off the crack, it got Diddy and Missy Elliot on it for fuck sake, Joe Budden sold 300,000 units but they blamed that coz of a mispell in his name, DMX is retiring, Ghostface what an artist but he aint "pop" so he wont sell shit, Luda sells shit loads mind, Ja Rule hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha lmao!!! his careers done and dusted, and ill give u Redman, Kayne West is just a fad, his beats are pretty tight but he cant rap for shit..... so i don't think thats really ahead of the game, and most of the artists that u mentioned are all in sub labels of Def Jam too
who do you guys think is the best rapper ever?
(ill answer my own question later)
who do you guys think is the best rapper ever?
(ill answer my own question later)its out of two for me nobout either Rakim or 2Pac.... Rakim, because plain and simply he was the one who started all of the complex lyricism shit that we see soo much of today, he was way ahead of his time in the 80's and still is when on form one of the best around, just he wudnt sell out enough for Dr. Dre's liking such as Eminem
but the thing with 2Pac is that he had it all, soo many sides to Pac, he cud rap on basically any subject matter and touched soo many ppl, and not in the R-Kelly way ;) no one rapper has ever done such a thing and i doubt will ever do it on the level that Pac did, and he spoke from the heart and was true to himself and wasnt fake like soo many rappers from today such as Ja-Rule, Eminem
Travis Bickle
21-04-2004, 18:33
, Joe Budden sold 300,000 units but they blamed that coz of a mispell in his name,
????? I don't get it, is that good or bad ? how did they misspell it ???
i think the best rapper ever is 2pac.and will always be 2pac.
as Jonny said there were just so many sides to tupac.he could be rapping about thugs one minute then rap about single mothers the next.he had a unique rapping style and was lyrically brilliant.
p.s i dont think people give enough respect to big pun,hes never mentioned in peoples top 10 rappers.
????? I don't get it, is that good or bad ? how did they misspell it ???one was Joe Buddens and another was Joe Budden so they said ppl got confused haha
Eve is awful, she cant rap for shit, she already signed and left Aftermath once back in the day, Busta well he sold out big time in the last year, was alot better when he was in the Flipmode Squad, The Game he is just appauling really, hes from Compton but he biting an eastcoast flow, he trys to rap all NWA but at the same time he sounds like a cross between Shyne & Biggie
Wu Tang arent signed to Def Jam if im not mistaken, now lemme see out of all them artists, LL Cool J fell off 10 years ago, Cam'Ron he jus a faggot, Method Man's new solo will be shite since he been off the crack, it got Diddy and Missy Elliot on it for fuck sake, Joe Budden sold 300,000 units but they blamed that coz of a mispell in his name, DMX is retiring, Ghostface what an artist but he aint "pop" so he wont sell shit, Luda sells shit loads mind, Ja Rule hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha lmao!!! his careers done and dusted, and ill give u Redman, Kayne West is just a fad, his beats are pretty tight but he cant rap for shit..... so i don't think thats really ahead of the game, and most of the artists that u mentioned are all in sub labels of Def Jam too
i think your too harsh on most of these rappers. the way your going on it sounds as though there are no good rappers anymore. i think rap is changing and therefore the rappers at the moment have to adjust. who do you think are the good rappers at the moment though
i think your too harsh on most of these rappers. the way your going on it sounds as though there are no good rappers anymore. i think rap is changing and therefore the rappers at the moment have to adjust. who do you think are the good rappers at the moment thoughat the moment for me its still alot of older cats who are doing it, as new and fresh talent isnt really getting a chance to shine due to alot of bullshit label politics, but id say ppl like
Scarface
Z-Ro
Crooked I
MC Ren
Rakim
DJ Quik
Yukmouth
Big pun is definaltely good. Shame he died...
i dont agree with you on Yukmouth, MC Ren and Crooked I what have they done?? I didnt heard much of them. I also think talib Kweli should be in you list (It isnt needed to explain, has been explained million times)
scarface and rakim definately,im not too sure bout the rest.
Flipper the Priest
28-04-2004, 11:50
Anyone remember the name of the Black Eyed Peas song accompanied by the spoof shopping channel video? I quite liked it and would like to find out the name to, er, buy it(!)
They were alright 'til they went POP!
I love that scarface track - My Block, the song is sick, worth a download
Nifty1Pound50
28-04-2004, 20:48
Talib Kweli is the best rapper of all time, for me. He's also a very deep lyricist, and delivers well. Everyone's going to have their own tastes of course - it all depends on who's delivery you like, what type of lyrics you prefer.
Canibus, for me, is one of the best, as is DMX. Scarface can be a bit hit 'n' miss. Sometimes he's ridiculously good, yet at other times he's sub-standard.
But definitely Kweli. Just the mention of the name makes me want to put "Blackstar" on. And Mos Def doesn't let that album down either. "Re: Definition" is the best track on there for me, as well as "Hater Players." Just listen out for Mos Def's scenic description, and you'll see why.
I mean when you buy the CD. ;) Though you should have it already.
I'll have to disagree with you Jonny, with respect to your general comments that hip-hop isn't as good "anymore" as it was back in the day. That's one thing that I love about hip-hop music - the longevity. Old classics can be listened to over and over again, and there's such a wealth of talent spread out across at least the last decade and a half, meaning that it doesn't get tiresome. There's so much quality music that has been produced, and is still being produced - Talib Kweli's new album, for example.
And as razor said, hip-hop and rap music is evolving - be it for better or worse. And it's society's fault. The rappers aren't the pioneers of the content - the society is.
ChelseaDave
28-04-2004, 22:56
any1 on here like cypress hill?? i been listening to quite alot of their songs recently and i think they're quality. The beats in the background are always well good, and the lyrics to some of there songs are decent aswell.
Celtic420
29-04-2004, 00:36
But definitely Kweli. Just the mention of the name makes me want to put "Blackstar" on.
Blackstar is the kind of album that live in the cd player of anyone who buys it for months solid. best hip hop album since illmatic.
I'll have to disagree with you Jonny, with respect to your general comments that hip-hop isn't as good "anymore" as it was back in the day. That's one thing that I love about hip-hop music - the longevity. Old classics can be listened to over and over again, and there's such a wealth of talent spread out across at least the last decade and a half, meaning that it doesn't get tiresome. There's so much quality music that has been produced, and is still being produced - Talib Kweli's new album, for example.
I agree completely. hip hop is healthier than it has ever been. people who talk about how it is dead and all comercialized and corrupted aren't looking in the right places. hip hop is in the same place it has always been, in clubs and at shows. it's true that expanding into the mainstream has changed it (corrupted to some, myself included). but it has also expanded in every other concievable direction as well. hundreds of artists who grew up listening to Run DMC, tribe called quest, public enemy, africa bambataa, etc. have all put their own twist on the art form that is hip hop. they are out there making hip hop. no matter what your taste there are artists for you, but they aren't going to fall into your lap. they will not make any mtv top ten list or get much radio air time, but niether did most of the pioneers so who cares?
so to all the pessimists here: instead of sitting back lamenting the death of hip hop, get out there and find like minded hip hop heads, go to every show you can and follow up on artist that you like. choose your favorite active artist as your starting point and get yourself out there. I am overwhelmed by the sheer amount of fresh new music that i am exposed to every day. what you get from hip hop depends on what you put into it
agree wiv jcrip and jonny2j ...tupac iz the greatest rapper ever, he raps the truth whether it b about, single mothers, teenage pregnancy, poverty etc. wiv such a unique sound u cant help but love tupacs music....R.I.P? LOL!
AND YEA jonny2j rite about rakim........eric b and rakim were runnin' thangs back in the day (AND YOU KNOW U GOT DAT "PAID IN FULL" ALBUM IN UR CD COLLECTION LOL)
P.S this hip hop forums been goin on 4 a while but no1'z mentioned "DEAD PREZ" am i the only 1 intrested? lol!
Nifty1Pound50
10-05-2004, 23:36
Was just about to mention Dead Prez. Their new album should be good, but I'm expecting a lot, as "Let's Get Free" was a solid LP. "RBG" (which stands for both Red, Black and Green, and Revolutionary But Something-or-other) sounds pretty good from what I've heard, but I ain't going to judge it 'til I buy it.
yea "lets get free" was heavy album so im guessing most people r expecting "RBG:Revolutionary But Gangsta" 2 b just as good if not better, havent heard the whole album but i like what im hearin' so far!
agree wiv jcrip and jonny2j ...tupac iz the greatest rapper ever, he raps the truth whether it b about, single mothers, teenage pregnancy, poverty etc. wiv such a unique sound u cant help but love tupacs music....R.I.P? LOL!
AND YEA jonny2j rite about rakim........eric b and rakim were runnin' thangs back in the day (AND YOU KNOW U GOT DAT "PAID IN FULL" ALBUM IN UR CD COLLECTION LOL)
P.S this hip hop forums been goin on 4 a while but no1'z mentioned "DEAD PREZ" am i the only 1 intrested? lol!infact i just got a rare rakim 2 cd bootleg full of unreleased and remixes, so if ur interested jus say..... ;)
yea definetly interested! :D
yea "lets get free" was heavy album so im guessing most people r expecting "RBG:Revolutionary But Gangsta" 2 b just as good if not better, havent heard the whole album but i like what im hearin' so far!ooooo yes forgot about Dead Prez, what a revolutionary group they have been, they also havent sold out which makes a change these days for ne rappers, and if u want that Rakim album robz hit me up on msn jonny2j@hotmail.com
i cant believe no-body has been mentioning jay-z. its unbelievable not to see his name alongside the greats. i think he is the greatest rapper alive and by far the most consistent. name a solo album of his which is rubbish. also do u think kanye west is commercial. i think he has got the balance right. i love get em high ft. talib kweli.
whats ure fav rakim song. i have to say i be on the mic.
i cant believe no-body has been mentioning jay-z. its unbelievable not to see his name alongside the greats. i think he is the greatest rapper alive and by far the most consistent. name a solo album of his which is rubbish. also do u think kanye west is commercial. i think he has got the balance right. i love get em high ft. talib kweli.
whats ure fav rakim song. i have to say i be on the mic.Jigga is a sellout and way overrated, his only two decent albums are Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album, Eminem shitted on him on Renegades, even Dr. Dre outshinded him on The Watcher Part 2, and that was coz Rakim did write his verse though ;)
i cant believe no-body has been mentioning jay-z. its unbelievable not to see his name alongside the greats. i think he is the greatest rapper alive and by far the most consistent. name a solo album of his which is rubbish. also do u think kanye west is commercial. i think he has got the balance right. i love get em high ft. talib kweli.
whats ure fav rakim song. i have to say i be on the mic.
disagree...jay-z has sold out and i place NAS much higher then him as ONE of the greatest rappers alive (ne1 else agree)........as 4 rakim tunes.... i kinda like R.A.K.I.M.......but my opinion changes like the weather :D
i do listen 2 most of hiphops latest hits.. but still i cant help but go back and listen 2 the realist one - Pac.. i know he has some "beef" with Biggie but i do listen to Biggie too.. i guess both r the best that came with the illest lyrix..
disagree...jay-z has sold out and i place NAS much higher then him as ONE of the greatest rappers alive (ne1 else agree)........
How has Jay-z sold out? Nas is good but just look at album sales. i know it isnt exactly the best way to see who is better but you have to admit nas isnt half as successful as Jay. Nas is probably the second best rapper alive followed by Rakim, Dre,....
Jigga is a sellout and way overrated, his only two decent albums are Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album, Eminem shitted on him on Renegades, even Dr. Dre outshinded him on The Watcher Part 2, and that was coz Rakim did write his verse though ;)
TWO decent albums are you crazy? Volume II, Blueprint. Someone dissing someone else doesnt make them a better rapper. at the end of the day i know hip-hop started with battles buit it aint like that no more and in terms of music jay-z is the greatest rapper alive!!!!!!!!
How has Jay-z sold out? Nas is good but just look at album sales. i know it isnt exactly the best way to see who is better but you have to admit nas isnt half as successful as Jay. Nas is probably the second best rapper alive followed by Rakim, Dre,....Dre is a shit rapper my friend, u seriously need to check ur hip-hop vocab if u can even rate Dre as a rapper or MC, the dude dont even write his own shit for fucks sake
How has Jay-z sold out? Nas is good but just look at album sales. i know it isnt exactly the best way to see who is better but you have to admit nas isnt half as successful as Jay. Nas is probably the second best rapper alive followed by Rakim, Dre,....
success dont meen $hit look at 50cent get rich or ..... sold $hit loadz of albums,this doesnt meen u can place him as one of the greatest rappers... 4 me its all bout the lyrics...i really dont wanna b hearin about nxt manz cars jewlery and women..wiv nas he raps the truth kinda like pac but maybe not as deep..but i do place him up there as one of the greatest rapper/lyracist eva..... i also place talib kweli,dead prez,and mos def as better lyracists then jay..dnt get me rong i do like jay-z but he dont rap about wat i wanna hear personally!
Dre is a shit rapper my friend, u seriously need to check ur hip-hop vocab if u can even rate Dre as a rapper or MC, the dude dont even write his own shit for fucks sake
Dre is good simply because of the length of time he has been in the game. so i reckon you don't think ice cube is good either.
How has Jay-z sold out? Nas is good but just look at album sales. i know it isnt exactly the best way to see who is better but you have to admit nas isnt half as successful as Jay. Nas is probably the second best rapper alive followed by Rakim, Dre,....
ye wats goin on dre??????????? :confused:
Dre is an utter shite mc.he cant rap for shit and btw the best rapper alive is eminem
Dre is good simply because of the length of time he has been in the game. so i reckon you don't think ice cube is good either.Cube was a GOD, Cube is the best MC the Westcoast has ever produced, but he hasnt been good since Bow Down, hes sold out to Hollywood and hasnt got the hunger he used to have, although he did reclaim some respect on Terrorist Threats, i mean the War & Peace albums were shocking compared to the Ice Cube classics such as Death Certificate, Lethal Injection, Amerikkkaz Most Wanted & The Predator, it just pains me to see it when someone like Ice Cube does a track such as You Can Do It
I agree about cube.the west coast hasnt been good for some time imo...
sorry about the double post my internet explorer is fucked
I agree about cube.the west coast hasnt been good for some time imo...
True. its all been about New york and the Mid-West (chicago/detroit). Southside rappers have been doing good too with rappers like T.I. and Eastsideboyz, Ying Yang Twins. what was the last good thing to come out of the West Side
True. its all been about <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=New york&v=55">New york</a> and the Mid-West (chicago/detroit). Southside rappers have been doing good too with rappers like T.I. and Eastsideboyz, Ying Yang Twins. what was the last good thing to come out of the West Sidether have been lots of good releases from the westcoast, but believe me the westcoast just doesnt get the exposure as it used to which is the main problem, due to a media bias towards the eastcoast and alack of airplay they receive, believe me thers been some good albums that are shitting on the quality of music by all of these dirty southerners, the only ppl that i feel from the dirty south are Scarface, Devind The Dude and Z-Ro, that is because they have a real style and they have never gone pop which is really what most of these ppl have from the south, Z-Ro's latest album is without doubt the best album of the year IMO, and ther was alot of good releases from the west last year that have been better than ppl like Jigga, Kayne such as Roscoe's Philiphornia, Westside Connection's Terrorist Threats, Ras Kass' compilation, Yukmouth's Godzilla, Crooked I's mixtapes or Tha Eastsidaz Album Promo that came out, but they just dont seem to be getting the attention they deserve, why do you think Daz has signed with So So Def?? because he needs the exposure that only the eastcoast are getting at the moment
I think the exposure is mainly down to the radio stations and to be honest the best radio stations are the new york ones and therefore they are going to be biased so i agree with you. but do u still think the west coast has produced a lot of quality. i mean even Tupac was from New York. Mayvbe Death Rows Demise has been the reason for the reduced exposure?
probably,mabe the radio stations are backing out from the west coast cos of the so called thug like culture which deathrow created.
west coast is gradually elevating back to where it used to be with Snoop, Dre and 2Pac keep an ear out for Game , Crooked I and Lil Eazy E ( Eric Wright - Eazy E's son )
Anyways, i'm a big fan of Hip Hop music have been ever since i could remember so add me to your list of fans GFK.
is that the game who has signed with G-Unit?
yeah he signed with aftermath and joined gunit
west coast is gradually elevating back to where it used to be with Snoop, Dre and 2Pac keep an ear out for Game , Crooked I and Lil Eazy E ( Eric Wright - Eazy E's son )oooo i dnt like The Game at all, hes representing westcoast and claiming to be a blood, but hes got a new yorkers flow, sounds like a cross between Shyne & Biggie, and Lil E we been waiting on for a while, i think he got an American Football scollership, but Crooked I is the best lyricist around just he been held back by being on a label thats been dead for years but thank fuck hes left it
simmsm88
06-06-2004, 17:46
The best:
Nas
Wu Tang
GZA (Part of the Wu-Tang but his singles are excellent)
Jedi Mind Tricks (Check out Violent By Design. Definately a top 3 for me)
Beasite Boys
A Tribe Called Quest
Overrated:
G-Unit
Eminem
Jay-Z
The Worst:
Ja Rule
Nelly
The best:
Nas
Wu Tang
GZA (Part of the Wu-Tang but his singles are excellent)
Jedi Mind Tricks (Check out Violent By Design. Definately a top 3 for me)
Beasite Boys
A Tribe Called Quest
Overrated:
G-Unit
Eminem
Jay-Z
The Worst:
Ja Rule
Nelly
yea tru dnt kno bout beastie boyz (aint my thang :D ) but no pac, rakim dead prez, epmd etc etc
The best:
-KRS One
-Rakim
-Notorious B.I.G - ( best rapper their ever was )
-2 Pac
-Jay-Z
-Nas
-Eminem
-LL Cool J
-Big Pun
-Big L
Most Underrated:
-Jedi Mind Tricks
-Inspectah Deck of the Wu Tang Clan
-Obie Trice
-Copywrite
-Canibus
-Talib Kweli
-Tha Alkaholiks ( now known as 'Tha Liks' )
-Royce Da 5'9
-Dead Prez
-Slum Village
-Masta Ace
The Worst:
-Juvenile
-Lil Wayne
-Birdman
-Chingy
-Bone Crusher
-Petey Pablo
-Knocturnal
-Vanilla Ice
-MC Hammer
-Nick Cannon
list is longer, just done this in 2 minutes
The best:
-KRS One
-Rakim
-Notorious B.I.G - ( best rapper their ever was )
-2 Pac
-Jay-Z
-Nas
-Eminem
-LL Cool J
-Big Pun
-Big L
Most Underrated:
-Jedi Mind Tricks
-Inspectah Deck of the Wu Tang Clan
-Obie Trice
-Copywrite
-Canibus
-Talib Kweli
-Tha Alkaholiks ( now known as 'Tha Liks' )
-Royce Da 5'9
-Dead Prez
-Slum Village
-Masta Ace
The Worst:
-Juvenile
-Lil Wayne
-Birdman
-Chingy
-Bone Crusher
-Petey Pablo
-Knocturnal
-Vanilla Ice
-MC Hammer
-Nick Cannon
list is longer, just done this in 2 minutesooo i certainly agree with Tha Liks been underrated, got a big fuck off poster of them on my bedroom wall, but on the best MC selection i wudnt say Eminem as really hes yet to release any classic material as all of his albums all end up sounding the same about his mam, kid or wife, and LL if this was 15 years ago YES, but god damn hes fallen off and sold out soo hard that is unbelievable
but on the best MC selection i wudnt say Eminem as really hes yet to release any classic material as all of his albums all end up sounding the same about his mam, kid or wife,
'Marshal Mather LP' a classic in my opinion and talking about his mum, kid or wife is his life, he's just being realistic and that ain't the only thing he talks about on the album.
'Marshal Mather LP' a classic in my opinion and talking about his mum, kid or wife is his life, he's just being realistic and that ain't the only thing he talks about on the album.oooo no man :eek: that album has gotta be as pop as a rap album can become, even MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice have released less pop material than that, wen u talk about a classic u talk about an Illmatic, Paid In Full, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez On Me
oooo no man :eek: that album has gotta be as pop as a rap album can become, even MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice have released less pop material than that,
wow! anyway, everyone has different opinions.
oooo no man :eek: that album has gotta be as pop as a rap album can become, even MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice have released less pop material than that, wen u talk about a classic u talk about an Illmatic, Paid In Full, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez On Me
those are sum class albums! :D
Yea, Tupac All Eyez On Me, is one of the best Rap Albums ever. Illmatic & Stillmatic where both good too.
'Marshal Mather LP' a classic in my opinion and talking about his mum, kid or wife is his life, he's just being realistic and that ain't the only thing he talks about on the album.
mixed with songs like "The Real Slim Shady" which tend to be the ones he realeases.
Ppl have started to say G-Unit are overrated but i dont think they are. 50 cent maybe overrated but i think lloyd banks is a brilliant MC. i cant wait for his album to drop. i cant really decide on whether young buck ids good or not because i dont really like his style of rapping but he can be so brilliant at times but i have to say Footprints was quite Shit
They are overated, and your right about Lloyd Banks, his talented just like The Game. 50 cent, young buck, or Tony Yayo ain't really, but they ain't as talented as Tupac, Eminem Ect...ill definatly be buying 'The Hunger For More' and 'Straight Outta Cashville'
Also, look out for The Games new album, dropping soon.
Do u think the beef between Joe Budden and the game was publicity. cause thats commercial. i dont know much about the game. hes from the westside so i'll look out for him.
Yea, i think it was, but the game is a great rapper, not better that Banks though,
Yea, i think it was, but the game is a great rapper, not better that Banks though,The Game aint nothin new man, as ive said hes claimin to be a blood but hes rapping like hes from New York, hes tryna be NWA all up in himself, Banks shits all over him and many westcoast artists such as Sly Boogie, Crooked I, Ras Kass, Yukmouth, C-Bo, Roscoe the list is endless
and for u Banks fans the album has already been leaked on mirc :D
I aint gonna download it, im gonna bo out and buy it insted
I aint gonna download it, im gonna bo out and buy it insted
there goes a tru lloyd banks fan :p
there goes a tru lloyd banks fan :p
Lol, yea, your right :rolleyes:
I aint gonna download it, im gonna bo out and buy it instedit aint out for 3 weeks, so just thought id let ya no, from what i hear it aint all that
Well i post on 'The Hip Hop Foundry Forum' one of the biggest Rap Forums on the web, and they say it hasnt been leaked yet, they reckon it will be leaked about 1 week before the release date, because Tony Yayo is going to be on 2 tracks....
and your right about Lloyd Banks, his talented just like The Game.
Whole truth and nothing but the truth.
because Tony Yayo is going to be on 2 tracks....that shud be fun :rolleyes:
Well i post on 'The Hip Hop Foundry Forum' one of the biggest Rap Forums on the web, and they say it hasnt been leaked yet, they reckon it will be leaked about 1 week before the release date, because Tony Yayo is going to be on 2 tracks....
It has been leaked. i have seen it on Mirc. going to get the roriginal though. it was leaked by WHOA
It has been leaked. i have seen it on Mirc. going to get the roriginal though. it was leaked by WHOAif u want a good album thats just come out get Big Hutch- Live From The Ghetto, Above The Law's front man and producer releasing his 2nd solo album, good album from what ive heard so far, bringing the funk back, an awesome track with Curtis Mayfield too
Curtis Mayfield. who is he the name sound familiar
Curtis Mayfield. who is he the name sound familiarhes a legend, he just recently passed away, he done one of the finest albums ever made the 'Superfly' soundtrack
It has been leaked. i have seen it on Mirc. going to get the roriginal though. it was leaked by WHOA
Yeah it has, ive got the direct link here: Left Click
Lloyd Banks - The Hunger For More (http://host55.ipowerweb.com/~eminemlo/upload/Lloyd_Banks-The_Hunger_For_More-2004(EZSoulja.Com_&_50centdirect.com).rar)
You need WinRar (http://www.rarlab.com/rar/wrar330.exe) , first though, but tracks, 15, and 16, missing, they ain't been leaked yet, maybe soon...
Its, a great, album, im definatly gonna buy it.
simmsm88
13-06-2004, 17:15
Let's face it, Jedi Mind Tricks are the best!
Ogopa Djz
13-06-2004, 21:40
hes a legend, he just recently passed away, he done one of the finest albums ever made the 'Superfly' soundtrack
Da best song is "i am pusherman".
Jay-Z is supposed to sign a one year Album deal with Dr.Dre's Aftermath, but he will be called S.Carter ( S Dot Carter ), i hope its true....but its supposed to be official though.
Jay-Z is supposed to sign a one year Album deal with Dr.Dre's Aftermath, but he will be called S.Carter ( S Dot Carter ), i hope its true....but its supposed to be official though.some nice more pop music
Ogopa Djz
15-06-2004, 16:09
Jay-Z is supposed to sign a one year Album deal with Dr.Dre's Aftermath, but he will be called S.Carter ( S Dot Carter ), i hope its true....but its supposed to be official though.
Now why would he do that if he has his own record label Rocafella?
Well it was just on MTV Base, the Lick with Trevor Nelson, and its on some Hip Hop sites too,
Well it was just on MTV Base, the Lick with Trevor Nelson, and its on some Hip Hop sites too,nah ur right, i heard it before somewere as well, its coz he said he was gonna retire as Jay-Z or summit like that, and probz coz the name Jay-Z will be attached to The Roc
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