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Girlfriend, eh? I now trust you even less!
I'm also now suspicious of Billy Minof.
:laugh: Minof is one that i'm having a bit of trouble with, He posted a few times earlier on, but hasn't really said anything else. Maybe he got scared when two townies died so he's been hiding in his hole ever since?
VOTE DALE
I aint buying that 'Oooh I don't understand this properly' bullshit for one second.
If you really knew me you'd understand why i'm having difficulty :lol: I sort of understand it now, but it should be left as it is! The new roles can be put in next game surely :/
Also, my plan that I earlier mentioned failed miserably :angry:
I'm quite confused with everyone seemingly keeping all their cards so close to their chest.
At this moment in time if I was to name someone, it'd be more so a wild guess than trying to really put together logical thoughts.
Hmmm.
Sorry been away for the last two days.
Hmmm.
Sorry been away for the last two days.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_JIRIfCJzK-o/SSYB3fxOb7I/AAAAAAAAGlk/Y5TQPWtMnIM/s576/DrEvil-Riiight.jpg
From reading through here Hunter is the one person I believe to be Mafia. :ninja:
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 12:41
Tbh I think we're going about this the wrong way. I believe there's gonna be a reason why Fick was chosen by the mafia and if we can work out why that was, then we can get into the mafia's heads and perhaps work out who the mafia are. Now, I've looked back on Fick's earlier post and there's one person, whom Fick is continually suspicious of and vice versa - Sminky. It's also interesting that Sminky, since the earlier exchanges, hasn't posted too much - perhaps allowing us to bark up the wrong tree by lynching Papa, while silently waiting for the chance to get rid of the person, who'd been suspicious of him. It's just a theory and, of course, I'm probably barking up completely the wrong tree, myself, but I just felt it was worth bringing it to everybody's attention. Apologies to Sminky, if I've wrongly accused him.
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 12:51
Tbh I think we're going about this the wrong way. I believe there's gonna be a reason why Fick was chosen by the mafia and if we can work out why that was, then we can get into the mafia's heads and perhaps work out who the mafia are. Now, I've looked back on Fick's earlier post and there's one person, whom Fick is continually suspicious of and vice versa - Sminky. It's also interesting that Sminky, since the earlier exchanges, hasn't posted too much - perhaps allowing us to bark up the wrong tree by lynching Papa, while silently waiting for the chance to get rid of the person, who'd been suspicious of him. It's just a theory and, of course, I'm probably barking up completely the wrong tree, myself, but I just felt it was worth bringing it to everybody's attention. Apologies to Sminky, if I've wrongly accused him.
An interesting theory. The problem is, how clever do we think the mafia are? Since Fick was continually suspicious of Sminky, wouldn't lynching Fick make everyone immediately suspicious of Sminky - which is demonstrated by your post - therefore he would be silly to lynch him. Perhaps Sminky isn't the sharpest tool in the box but on the other hand, maybe a mafia member has seen that lynching Fick will imply that Sminky is a mafia member when really he is a townie. It is a good theory and maybe I'm making the mafia look cleverer than they are.
We can't overlook Fick and Sminky's new found 'friendship' either. Sminky tempted Fick to play Killzone 2 again, and they're always chatting to each other around the site.
They could have been put on either side of the game, to break up this new friendship and see what would happen between the two lovers.
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 12:59
Fair enough, Phatmann. As I said, it was just a theory and I thought it was worth putting it out there, as we have so little to work with atm.
Interesting Bammers, very interesting. Sminky is usually posting left, right and centre, yet in the thread where discussion is probably at the highest on this site currently, he's yet to really get involved. Is he maybe trying not to give away too much, hiding in the shadows so to speak?
It's an interesting theory as Phats pointed out, one that's worth discussing further with our townsmen to try and gauge everyone's thoughts.
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 13:14
Interesting Bammers, very interesting. Sminky is usually posting left, right and centre, yet in the thread where discussion is probably at the highest on this site currently, he's yet to really get involved. Is he maybe trying not to give away too much, hiding in the shadows so to speak?
It's an interesting theory as Phats pointed out, one that's worth discussing further with our townsmen to try and gauge everyone's thoughts.
I'm pretty sure I remember Sminky saying he was going out Saturday night so wouldn't be on here as much over the weekend. Whether this is just an ingenious way of keeping himself out of the spotlight or not, I don't know. :hmm:
Ali_BWFC
23-01-2011, 13:15
An interesting theory. The problem is, how clever do we think the mafia are? Since Fick was continually suspicious of Sminky, wouldn't lynching Fick make everyone immediately suspicious of Sminky - which is demonstrated by your post - therefore he would be silly to lynch him. Perhaps Sminky isn't the sharpest tool in the box but on the other hand, maybe a mafia member has seen that lynching Fick will imply that Sminky is a mafia member when really he is a townie. It is a good theory and maybe I'm making the mafia look cleverer than they are.
I kinda get what you're saying. Part of me is begining to think that fick wasn't chosen for any particular reason, other than to instill paranoia, and hope that people will just make the next choice for them. However, I was susicious of Sminky right from the begining. If I'm honest, I would have voted for him in the first round, if I wasn't so easily sawyed by everyone else and the promise of the first lynching.
My main reason for being suspicious of Sminky, was that he seemed to overuse the phrase "mafia scum" (don't know if anyone else noticed?). It immediatley set off the alarm bells in my head. The first thing he said, after the roles were anounced was:
"So then ... lets take a wild stab at who is fucking mafia scum early doors."
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 13:17
I'm also now suspicious of Billy Minof.
Nothing to be suspicious of, I went into hiding last night so the Mafia couldnt pop me off and it worked, tonight though ill be willing to patrol the streets after dark. :ninja:
:laugh: Minof is one that i'm having a bit of trouble with, He posted a few times earlier on, but hasn't really said anything else. Maybe he got scared when two townies died so he's been hiding in his hole ever since?
I got scared when the first townie died never mind the second.
As for theories for today.....you are definatly Mafia, the man sent out to throw out the first vote and draw attention on one of the good townsfolk.
Another clue for me is your Surname *C* also known as *Corleone*......does that name ring any alarm bells people. ;)
VOTE DALE C = (Corleone)
This will draw out the rest of the Mafia as they will vote for me now and try and save Dales Bacon.
Dragonfly
23-01-2011, 13:17
He gave me the impression that he's not the outgoing type. You may be on to something Phatmann.
I'm quite suspicious of Minof right now if I'm honest, he doesn't seem to be acting quite himself. There's something strange going on with his mannerisms and the way he's posting, it's not the Minof I know, but I don't want to outright accuse someone so early on in the day with a lot of identifying and exploring to do.
I'm keeping an eye open though.
I can see where people are coming from with regards Sminky. If I'm not mistaken, he did seem the most eager person to get the game going at the start. Though it's all guesswork really at this stage.
I can see where people are coming from with regards Sminky. If I'm not mistaken, he did seem the most eager person to get the game going at the start. Though it's all guesswork really at this stage.
Well yes, it's guesswork, that's what the game is about. :lol:
We'll never really know for sure when voting that we're lynching a mafia member until the person is dead. But what we can do is try to collate evidence against them from either their previous posts and inconsistencies or an absence altogether in an attempt to lay low and avoid giving away any weaknesses through posting.
We need to start getting the ball rolling on the identifying front. Thus far we've only really got the theory from Bammers that Sminky is unusually inactive, especially considering he was previously very eager. It's skeptical to say the least.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 13:38
I'm quite suspicious of Minof right now if I'm honest, he doesn't seem to be acting quite himself. There's something strange going on with his mannerisms and the way he's posting, it's not the Minof I know, but I don't want to outright accuse someone so early on in the day with a lot of identifying and exploring to do.
I'm keeping an eye open though.
Well Im suspicious of everyone but my mind has been made up on Dale and my opinion wont change for the day so I said id say it now before he gets another of us killed.
The reason for not being myself is because there are killers on the streets, if I were Mafia I would have been myself and just killed everyone even my own, id be the Don.
I can see where people are coming from with regards Sminky. If I'm not mistaken, he did seem the most eager person to get the game going at the start. Though it's all guesswork really at this stage.
I wouldnt hold that against him, his eagerness to get underway doesnt warrant suspicion for me, dont forget we were all eager and that was before we even knew our roles.
Dales your man. :cool:
Fair enough Minof, I doubt theres much to be said to sway your vote, so i'll just leave you be.
I, on the other hand, will;
Unvote Topgun
and;
Vote Phatmann.
It's just too obvious.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 14:39
Fair enough Minof, I doubt theres much to be said to sway your vote, so i'll just leave you be.
There is still plenty to be said.
Your obviously the voice of the Mafia, the mole sent in to plant names here and there and draw attention first away from yourself and then again away from your fellow Mafia "Scum" which is the best and most suitable word I could think of.
Anyway, I have a double funeral to attend. RIP Papa and Fick. :shocking:
I wrote a few words for them.
Papa and Fick may you rest in peace,
Your hearts of Gold now gone out of reach,
Taken away by a terror so true,
There making our lives full of sorrowful blue,
All we can do is hope and Pray,
That the lives of the fallen have not been in vain,
May we rise up together with the might of the Town,
Kill all the Scum and bring them all down.
Written by Billy Minof for the families of the fallen.
I wouldnt hold that against him, his eagerness to get underway doesnt warrant suspicion for me, dont forget we were all eager and that was before we even knew our roles.
Dales your man. :cool:
It's not his eagerness that arouses suspicion because we're all quite eager really considering it's a fun game, hell, this thread alone has nearly racked up to 20 pages in just a day or two. It's the fact that Sminky was very eager prior, and has suddenly fallen into the shadows which is highly uncharacteristic of him since he's usually the biggest poster on this site. Would you not consider that possibly strange?
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 14:52
It's not his eagerness that arouses suspicion because we're all quite eager really considering it's a fun game, hell, this thread alone has nearly racked up to 20 pages in just a day or two. It's the fact that Sminky was very eager prior, and has suddenly fallen into the shadows which is highly uncharacteristic of him since he's usually the biggest poster on this site. Would you not consider that possibly strange?
I dont really Sminky as I was away from the forum for a couple of months and havent read too many of his posts or noticed how regularly or irregularly he posted, therefore I wouldnt be suspicious of this.
If the Cop was in play we could investigate. ;)
Phatmann and Hunter are Mafia methinks :ninja:
Fucking hell, I go away for 24 hours and come back to bloody hordes of posts on here. I see someone 'offed' Fick, although disappointed, I am looking forward to getting my hands on his Lucy Pinder collection (after they have been dry cleaned).
Sminky's talk of dry cleaning (which has obvious connotations with money laundering) worries me.
Sminky's talk of dry cleaning (which has obvious connotations with money laundering) worries me.
:laugh:
Interesting approach you've taken there Dale.
:lol: It seems as though everyone is clutching at straws now (Minof, my last name beginning with a C, really?) so I thought i'd do the same :laugh:
Sminky sounds like a mafioso nickname. Tell me I'm wrong.
Sminky sounds like a mafioso nickname. Tell me I'm wrong.
Quite a change in persona I see since day 1 Hunter my friend, you changing your approach as well?
Quite a change in persona I see since day 1 Hunter my friend, you changing your approach as well?
I was just using it as a reel, seeing if anyone would bring my name up naturally. :lol:
Sminky does genuinely sound like a mafia related nickname though.
As for my persona changing, I'm merely adapting to the hostile environment and attempting to identify the intruders. If we can't identify a mafia member for today's lynching then we've a serious problem in the community.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 17:46
The 4 most basic players in Mafia Wars
Townie (check)
Mafia (check)
Cop ?
Doctor ?
Why are not using these characters or even talking about it apart from Dundons in earlier posts, as a Townie these characters are essential.
Townie - The townie is the basic rule for the forces of good. Townies do nothing at night and during the day they Try to lynch a mafia member.
Mafia - The mafia members know each other and talk during the night. Each night they choose a victim and the following morning that person is dead. The role of the Mafia is to survive until everyone else is dead.
Cop/Sheriff/Detective/Inspector - The Cop is by far the most common and important role for the townspeople. Each night the Cop goes to the Moderator and asks him if a certain member is Mafia or Townie, now the nominated Cop can be working for either side its up to the Townspeople to vote in the Cop.
Doctor - The Doctor can be a very powerful ally to the town, each night the Doctor contacts the Mod with a persons name of who he wants protected from the Mafia hit.
These are the basic roles which we should incorporate immediately or face inhalation from the Mafia.
laughin man
23-01-2011, 17:55
Fucking hell, I go away for 24 hours and come back to bloody hordes of posts on here. I see someone 'offed' Fick, although disappointed, I am looking forward to getting my hands on his Lucy Pinder collection (after they have been dry cleaned).
Obviously a criminal and therefore mafia, my work here is done.... :ninja:
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 17:56
The 4 most basic players in Mafia Wars
Townie (check)
Mafia (check)
Cop ?
Doctor ?
Why are not using these characters or even talking about it apart from Dundons in earlier posts, as a Townie these characters are essential.
Townie - The townie is the basic rule for the forces of good. Townies do nothing at night and during the day they Try to lynch a mafia member.
Mafia - The mafia members know each other and talk during the night. Each night they choose a victim and the following morning that person is dead. The role of the Mafia is to survive until everyone else is dead.
Cop/Sheriff/Detective/Inspector - The Cop is by far the most common and important role for the townspeople. Each night the Cop goes to the Moderator and asks him if a certain member is Mafia or Townie, now the nominated Cop can be working for either side its up to the Townspeople to vote in the Cop.
Doctor - The Doctor can be a very powerful ally to the town, each night the Doctor contacts the Mod with a persons name of who he wants protected from the Mafia hit.
These are the basic roles which we should incorporate immediately or face inhalation from the Mafia.
The mafia are gonna start inhaling us? :huh:
Seeing as Dundons and Minof know each other in real life, I wonder if they've made each other aware of their respective roles in this game. :ninja:
laughin man
23-01-2011, 18:01
I was just using it as a reel, seeing if anyone would bring my name up naturally. :lol:
Sminky does genuinely sound like a mafia related nickname though.
As for my persona changing, I'm merely adapting to the hostile environment and attempting to identify the intruders. If we can't identify a mafia member for today's lynching then we've a serious problem in the community.
More evidence on Hunter, he mentions adapting. Many men would overlook this wording but not owld columbo...
Definition: Adapting
to fit, change, or modify to suit a new or different purpose.... :ninja:
More evidence on Hunter, he mentions adapting. Many men would overlook this wording but not owld columbo...
Definition: Adapting
to fit, change, or modify to suit a new or different purpose.... :ninja:
Indeed. Our tactics have clearly been shit in trying to identify the mafia members so far, therefore we need to adapt to the situation and think more carefully when hanging the rope this time.
With laughin man now in on the act, I can only suspect that old chums Dundon's, Minof and laughin man are up to something. Possibly trying to create havoc amongst us tolk, leading us to off one another.
Interesting.
So now we have someone taking on the cop role? Shame Colombo seems to have dementia though.
Laughin Man, you can't be influencing the game. You're not part of either side, so you're not supposed to get invloved.
If there is going to be roles then they're not voted for. They're given at random and are secretive.
laughin man
23-01-2011, 18:23
Indeed. Our tactics have clearly been shit in trying to identify the mafia members so far, therefore we need to adapt to the situation and think more carefully when hanging the rope this time.
With laughin man now in on the act, I can only suspect that old chums Dundon's, Minof and laughin man are up to something. Possibly trying to create havoc amongst us tolk, leading us to off one another.
Interesting.
You cant spin this on me I came and offered the townsfolk assistance, you shot me down.
Guy trying to help :cool: vs :ninja: Guy trying to hamper the investigation
Laughin Man, you can't be influencing the game. You're not part of either side, so you're not supposed to get invloved.
If there is going to be roles then they're not voted for. They're given at random and are secretive.
I'm a free man Joel, go boil your head or something.
Dragonfly
23-01-2011, 18:26
Joel, I say ban the nuisance.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 18:32
The mafia are gonna start inhaling us? :huh:
Seeing as Dundons and Minof know each other in real life, I wonder if they've made each other aware of their respective roles in this game. :ninja:
Aware of what? I tell him im a Townie like Im telling ye Im a townie which is true.
I'm a free man Joel, go boil your head or something.
*sigh*
The game is being played fine Minof. I'm all for extra help, but I quite like this game as it is, and I think it's panning out fine.
Also Laughin man, you'd just be wasting your time because you can't vote as you're not included, so I can't see the point in you getting involved in the first place. Although I understand that we can't do anything but ignore him :laugh:
Come on then guys, who do we think?
I'm sticking by my vote (that I have already made) unless my fellow townies can convince me otherwise?
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 18:37
If there is going to be roles then they're not voted for. They're given at random and are secretive.
Would be cool, you can evolve the game as you wish as time goes by and people become more familiar with the basics.
Also the voting system is messy and could do with its own thread each day for the Townies to vote, its hard to see who people are voting for, this thread could be used for General Chat and a thread for voting only, it would also be easier for people to see who people are voting for each day and see if there are any patterns.
Just some thoughts. :)
I'm happy with the game as it is, I think any addtional roles will over-complicate the game as we barely understand it as it is! :D
Perhaps review when this game has ended completely.
That's a good idea Minof.
Also, i'd just like to ask our moderator what he thinks of the game and how it has panned out, if he is allowed to opinionate?
Dragonfly
23-01-2011, 18:40
vote dale
Would be cool, you can evolve the game as you wish as time goes by and people become more familiar with the basics.
Also the voting system is messy and could do with its own thread each day for the Townies to vote, its hard to see who people are voting for, this thread could be used for General Chat and a thread for voting only, it would also be easier for people to see who people are voting for each day and see if there are any patterns.
Just some thoughts. :)
Agree with that. Dale's said he's already voted but I've no idea when.
I've been enjoying this game so far, Dale.
I can't really speak on how it has panned out so far, but I will say that I was surprised that there was a lynching on Day 1.
I'll probably make a voting thread for Day 3, if you think that will be easier. But for the rest of Day 2, follow the same format as we've been using. I'll give a votes update at 8pm and another one at 11pm.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 18:51
Yeah I agree, keep it going as it is going and tomorrow you can have a thread for the voting only.
@Bishop, I have voted also, for Dale.
And I am enjoying it also.
Ali_BWFC
23-01-2011, 18:57
Agree with that. Dale's said he's already voted but I've no idea when.
Dale voted Phatmann, after changing his vote from Top Gun.
But yeah, we need a new thread for voting. Perhaps a new thread for each day, I mean, 20 pages is a bit much.
After all this voting for Dale, having initial aired my suspicions about Sminky, has put me in a bit of doubt.... I really don't want to be swayed by the masses. Having said that, I'll give it a bit longer, have a look back at a few more posts to get a better opinion.
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 19:02
The 4 most basic players in Mafia Wars
Townie (check)
Mafia (check)
Cop ?
Doctor ?
Why are not using these characters or even talking about it apart from Dundons in earlier posts, as a Townie these characters are essential.
Townie - The townie is the basic rule for the forces of good. Townies do nothing at night and during the day they Try to lynch a mafia member.
Mafia - The mafia members know each other and talk during the night. Each night they choose a victim and the following morning that person is dead. The role of the Mafia is to survive until everyone else is dead.
Cop/Sheriff/Detective/Inspector - The Cop is by far the most common and important role for the townspeople. Each night the Cop goes to the Moderator and asks him if a certain member is Mafia or Townie, now the nominated Cop can be working for either side its up to the Townspeople to vote in the Cop.
Doctor - The Doctor can be a very powerful ally to the town, each night the Doctor contacts the Mod with a persons name of who he wants protected from the Mafia hit.
These are the basic roles which we should incorporate immediately or face inhalation from the Mafia.
Yeah I agree, keep it going as it is going and tomorrow you can have a thread for the voting only.
@Bishop, I have voted also, for Dale.
And I am enjoying it also.
I swear these are two directly conflicting posts in the space of just over an hour from Billy Minof. I'm not saying they make him look suspicious, but I feel there's certainly a lack of continuity there. Unless of course he can explain the sudden change of heart, which would shut me up.
I have a plan and i'd like to keep pretty quiet about it, that is unless we're allowed to converse outside of this thread? Then i'd happily reveal details.
AHA! The shark has taken the bait my fellow town members.
The first person to reply to hear details of my plan via PM, is none other than the wolf in sheeps clothing himself; Hunter!!
I laid the trap especially so that a mafia member would try and find out about my plan details first, and it would seem that we have our curious george, gentlemen.
I'm not about to go vote hopping again, as i'm sticking with my vote now, but this is just something for you all to think about...
I voted for Hunter first time round and I'm doing it again. Sorry Bruv, it just doesn't add up the change in approach.
I Vote Hunter
Yeah I've had Hunter marked as Mafia since the start :ninja:
I was hoping it would sway my opinion on voting as I was actually going to vote for you my brother, Dale. After seeing everyone voting for you Dale, I decided to look back through the thread to see if any of these votes I felt were justified, and from the posts you'd been making, I saw no real reason as to why you were being voted. Hence the reason of searching back through, and curiosity ensued.
It's obvious we need to think outside of the box when identifying a mafia member, because the methods we've been adopting for day 1 have failed drastically, ultimately damaging the town and both the family of fick and myself (Amedea).
*fetches Sminky, Dale and Top Gun some rope*
:ninja:
I see a lynching in the near future.
I just think Hunter's change in approach is certainly justified, if clearly doesn't work just accusing people and voting on a whim; look at Papa for gods sake :faceplm:
I'm not entirely sure why i'm being voted at all, but i'll take it in the spirit of the game man. I certainly wouldn't be this involved if I were mafia, theres more to the game in being a townie, mafia members by default have to keep out of the discussion simply because they are mafia, unless they really are desperate to stay in the game and persuade everyone. This is why i'm sticking by my vote.
I'm just bumping my vote up a few pages, Joel might miss it.
Vote Phatmann
For those voting for me, if I was really mafia, would I be so involved, almost spearheading the way for the town? If I was mafia I wouldn't put myself in such an exposable position. You can of course vote for me, I will take some slight satisfaction when Joel reads out that I'm a townie and everyone will look like a fool...again. However I'll also obviously be disappointed considering this game's been a blast so far and I'll then of course be no real part of it.
As I've said before, we need to think about the way in which we approach this now. We can't sit back and not lynch someone, we're now in a position were the risk must be taken in order to find one of the mafia members. However the risk must be taken in a controlled manner, and a reasoning behind it.
Billy Minof
23-01-2011, 19:59
I swear these are two directly conflicting posts in the space of just over an hour from Billy Minof. I'm not saying they make him look suspicious, but I feel there's certainly a lack of continuity there. Unless of course he can explain the sudden change of heart, which would shut me up.
What I wanted to know was were we going to be slowly introducing them as they are part of the game or are we just going on a guessing game for the remainder of the game, with a new thread being opened now for each day starting tomorrow it will help the townies to identify a pattern of voting.
I really have no idea who is a Townie and which is Mafia and I have no way of finding out either the same can be said for each and every townie, pray tell how are we going to find out if by not adapting and using the tools needed by the townies to win.
Im having a laugh playing it but have no chance of ever winning therefore im happy to go along to get along for the remainder of the game then next time we play it we will be more prepared.
Update for votes received:
Dale C. - 3 (muscularmatt, Billy Minof, Dragonfly)
Phatmann - 2 (Dale C., Hunter)
Hunter - 2 (Sminky, Top Gun)
8 votes needed for a lynch.
4 hours till the end of Day 2.
So we're not really going to get a lynch then?
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 20:06
I agree with Hunter's point about our approach to the game. I think we need to make some sort of gameplan, in order to make sure we're not making random stabs in the dark and it seems to me that most people are more concerned with trying to look innocent rather than actually trying to find out who the mafia are. Obviously, this needs to change and I think we could start by having people actually properly explaining why they've voted for the person they've voted for, rather than just saying: 'vote someone'.
Other people are yet to vote though.
So we're not really going to get a lynch then?
Only if someone has recieved 8 votes before the end of the day.
I would say it is unlikely, but then I thought the same thing on Day 1 as well...
Fellow townies, I have a proposed idea.
We need to look at members who have voted late. Looking at the late votes, we might see certain members voting for people who are not definitely going to be lynched. In this case, these people very well be mafia because voting for people who aren't going to get lynched diverts the suspicious eyes away from them, and at the same time, are still voting but to no real effect.
I'm going to look through the thread now and see who has voted late, what do you all think about this strategy?
Ali_BWFC
23-01-2011, 20:51
Ok, I'm gonna get my vote in now. Gonna watch a film later soo....
Based on what people are saying so far, I just can't find any reason to suspect these people. Dale has been asking a few questions, but I don't think he's trying to trick anyone into thinking he definitely isn't mafia. Hunter and Phatmann have said nothing untoward for me, so I think I'm gonna stick with my initial suspicions, for the same reasons I gave earlier.
On that basis:
Vote Sminky
EDIT: It's a good idea, Dale. We should take it into account. There may be another tactic though. Mafia members may try and get the vote in early, to try and sway everyone else.
Fellow townies, I have a proposed idea.
We need to look at members who have voted late. Looking at the late votes, we might see certain members voting for people who are not definitely going to be lynched. In this case, these people very well be mafia because voting for people who aren't going to get lynched diverts the suspicious eyes away from them, and at the same time, are still voting but to no real effect.
I'm going to look through the thread now and see who has voted late, what do you all think about this strategy?
I'd also like to add this;
There are three people involved in this theory; person A and person B.
Person A switched the vote at the last minute,
and Person B was the recipent of Person A's new vote
Person C is the old vote, who we can safely assume is a townie because of the changed vote.
Person A is suspicious because the mafia know who the other mafia members are. Knowing that his vote was wasted before (Person C), he changes his vote to get a townie definitely lynched (Person B). Changing his vote from Person C to Person B shows us that Person C is indeed a townie, and Person A is a mafia member.
Townies, please take a look at this theory of mine because as of yet, its the most logical suggestion that i've seen to trying to decide on who to lynch.
So basically we've all pretty much accused the same handful of people as last time?! We need to re-think our strategy!
I don't think we've even got 8 votes, let alone 8 votes for one person to have them lynched. :faceplm:
The re-thinking of the strategy comes in exactly how Dale has mentioned I believe. Looking at the voting strategies, and any uncertainty that people have had when voting, or quickly jumping on the bandwagon in order to see Papa lynched.
We need to get everyone on here and make a definitive decision as how we're going to sort this out.
We need to put our suggestions on the table and then debate in favour or against supporting the majority. We shouldn't vote until its unanimous.
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 22:10
I still have to vote, but I'm really stuck on this one tbh. There's no conclusive proof for anyone and tbh I might just re-frain from voting, because I really have no clue and it doesn't look like it'll make any difference anyway - a new approach is definitely needed. Just looking through the voting, it looks to me like it's always the more vocal people that are accused and voted for. Perhaps, it would be more fruitful to target the quieter people and maybe 'bring them out of their shell', so to speak.
We still need to agree whether we're going to continue with our 'fractured' voting system or go with my suggestion.
There is only one way forward, and that's banding together. As I've said, it's worth taking the risk to lynch someone as doing nothing could be our downfall. If we find a mafia member then this could really be a huge breakthrough. We'll not get anywhere by voting for different individuals, the only way to win this game is if we stick together. The mafia will find infiltrating us a lot easier if we're segregated and they'll cause paranoia amongst us to match our already fragile states.
Bammers05
23-01-2011, 22:24
Who do you suggest lynching then, Hunter?
EDIT: Never mind, mistook what you said, lol.
I reckon we need to appoint someone as mayor of the townfolk. Of course the only problems with that is
1. If we announce it the mafia might hang him!
2. We could appoint a mafia member!
We need to vote on a voting system at least.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 22:30
Do we at least know what the Town/Mafia ratio was to begin with?
I propose we vote Phatmann, as I believe in my person A, B and C strategy.
A being the mafia member in; Phatmann,
B the recipent of his changed vote which was; Papa (who was a townie remember)
And person C, his original vote, which was Rainey.
This is a gamble, but I see it as a necessary one. If Phatmann is lynched and is proven to be mafia, then I am 90% sure that Rainey is a townie.
If I however get lynched tonight, then hopefully my fellow townies can use the strategy further down the line.
Based on the voting patterns from Day 1, I'd have to say Phatmann. Everything we've suggested thus far has been generally skepticism and suspicion, while Dale has recently mentioned the voting patterns - which I've now explored.
Day 1 saw a very even spread of voting from individuals:
Dale voted for Papa
Papa voted for Top Gun
Minof voted for Papa
Rainey voted for Phatmann
Appswah voted for Sminky
Phatmann voted for Rainey
Sminky voted for Hunter
Hunter voted for Papa
Bammers voted for Papa
Phatmann unvoted Rainey, then voted for Papa
Appswah unvoted Sminky, then voted for Papa
Sminky unvoted Hunter, then voted for Papa
Ali voted for Papa
Dragonfly voted for Dale
muscularmatt voted for Papa
TheBishop voted for Jonno
Now, looking at the break down of this Day 1 voting, as you can see it's a relatively even spread until I voted for Papa (for his stupid "I am a mafia member statement"). Anyway Bammers also voted for Papa. I genuinely believe Bammers to be a townie, especially as he's explored back through the thread and even aided in theories and the investigation. However, this is the point in which Phatmann changed his vote. Papa had only received 4 votes at this point and was far from a lynching, however it can be argued that Phatmann saw the opportunity for a townsperson to be lynched and decided to roll with the punch and further influence the votes to flood in. He clearly switched his vote, from Rainey to Papa - which may also on a side note potentially indicate that Rainey is actually a townie as well if Phatmann was originally trying to vote him for the rope - before then switching to another townie (Papa) who looked more likely to receive the death sentence.
Another interesting point to make I think is Bishop's very late decision to vote for Jonno despite the figures obviously suggesting that Papa was going to be lynched. Bishop made the vote in an almost nonchalant manner - possibly to remain involved in the game without actually contributing to a major decision, in order to avoid blame? If Bishop voted Papa and helped rub salt into the wound, then possibly it would have aroused suspicion, but by voting Jonno he may be hoping to pass by unnoticed by making a completely meaningless vote.
These are just a few theories, grounded in more logic than we've previously viewed matters, which is why I think they need to be seriously looked at and contemplated when making a decision voting. Considering we've pretty much nothing else to go off, and as I've mentioned previously; my vote is for Phatmann. I really think this is a moment where we need to band together as a community and go for it, as we're going to just keep getting picked off if we fail to attempt lynching the mafia members through our own personal agendas to vote for different people.
Does no-one else find it odd that Dundon's hasn't voted yet?
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 22:54
I'm sure any town folk are aware of how shifty Dale appears at the moment and doubt any town folk would be stupid enough to follow Dale like sheep - as I foolishly did with Papa - for a second time. When I voted for Papa, I took a risk that I thought was worth taking since it was only the first day. I don't see how the logic implicates me as a mafia member yet others who voted for Papa after me are not even mentioned as being suspects.
Don't make the mistake of being fooled by this seemingly well thought out - and incredibly flawed - logic coming from Dale and Hunter. I'm still unsure as to whether Hunter is a mafia member, he may just be blinded by a rather poorly thought out argument from Dale but I'm pretty sure Dale is a mafia member.
I do indeed but that again would be vague speculation. Whereas when looking at the votes that have already been cast, it relates to the likelihood that the mafia would likely send at least a few people into the town to try and mix things up, which also means that votes are on the board considering the amount of votes that there was in Day 1. I think we need to play it by strategy this time as vague speculation clearly didn't work for Day 1 and we ended up offing Papa based on suspicion.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 22:58
Does no-one else find it odd that Dundon's hasn't voted yet?
I'm my own man and I walk my own path, when I get proper proof I will vote.
We're already down 2 good men, I'm not about to string up another in a headless lynching.
I'm my own man and I walk my own path, when I get proper proof I will vote.
We're already down 2 good men, I'm not about to string up another in a headless lynching.
At least take part a bit more - or at the very least, vote for me so I can see whether you've got some stones boy :D
I'm sure any town folk are aware of how shifty Dale appears at the moment and doubt any town folk would be stupid enough to follow Dale like sheep - as I foolishly did with Papa - for a second time. When I voted for Papa, I took a risk that I thought was worth taking since it was only the first day. I don't see how the logic implicates me as a mafia member yet others who voted for Papa after me are not even mentioned as being suspects.
Don't make the mistake of being fooled by this seemingly well thought out - and incredibly flawed - logic coming from Dale and Hunter. I'm still unsure as to whether Hunter is a mafia member, he may just be blinded by a rather poorly thought out argument from Dale but I'm pretty sure Dale is a mafia member.
Yes the system is flawed, but it's bound to be at such an early stage in the game. You were the first member to change votes in order for Papa (a townie) to be lynched. While it is a flawed system to an extent, it still provides logic and a structure to why we should vote, and if true, then we could really be onto breaking down the mafia and further exploring the voting patterns.
I don't feel the need to defend my identity as a townie. I'd rather spend my time trying to find the mafia members in our community than pleading my innocence.
I voted for Papa (for his stupid "I am a mafia member statement").
*Post found on a piece of paper in Papa's corpse's pocket*
I really shouldn't have assumed you'd all think better of me than to think I'd resort to such a simple double bluff. Perhaps during my reign as Best Member but now I've been toppled I should be more careful.
However, from a dead person's perspective, it is quite interesting just sitting back and reading this without having to worry what I look like and I've got to say, some of you are very obviously Mafia in my opinion. Or perhaps I'm wrong. Probably am.
Woah Phats, i'm not declaring myself leader of the town or anything like that, i'm just showing some logical arguement which seems to have eluded us thus far.
I can but let people know of this logic, and if it works then more power to the town.
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 23:04
@Hunter, By laying out your logic like that though, surely it will now lead the mafia to change their ways of voting so as to not arouse suspicion and to completely mess up the "strategy" that you and Dale are discussing? Therefore rendering it pointless from now on.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 23:04
At least take part a bit more - or at the very least, vote for me so I can see whether you've got some stones boy :D
Vote Sminky
My balls are made of titanium kid ;)
Update for votes received:
Dale C. - 4 (muscularmatt, Billy Minof, Dragonfly, Rainey)
Phatmann - 2 (Dale C., Hunter)
Hunter - 2 (Sminky, Top Gun)
Sminky - 2 (Ali_BWFC, Dundon's)
8 votes needed for a lynch.
Last update to come at 11:50.
:wan: Can we stop fannying around so we can reach a unanimous decision?!
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 23:09
The person with the most votes has to get lynched as that is true mob mentality and the only way the town will make any progress, even if it is a lucky guess.
Joel, were peoples allegiances random and if so what ratio did you use? The rules say if the Mafia ever out number the town then the Mafia wins by default, therefore these facts have to be made known to the public if they already haven't been posted somewhere that I missed.
@Hunter, By laying out your logic like that though, surely it will now lead the mafia to change their ways of voting so as to not arouse suspicion and to completely mess up the "strategy" that you and Dale are discussing? Therefore rendering it pointless from now on.
That was a risk that needed to be made at this point. It'll be interesting to now see how the voting patterns change and to see if bluffs and double bluffs are played.
My eyes are well and truly open.
Dundon's the sides were selected randomly. It's the only fair way to do it.
As for the numbers... I was only going to let the town know if they were in a bad way, but telling now wouldn't hurt the game anyway.
We started of with 12 townies and 5 mafia members.
After you lost two on Day 1 and Night 1, it is now down to 10 townies and 5 mafia members. 2:1.
The person with the most votes has to get lynched as that is true mob mentality and the only way the town will make any progress, even if it is a lucky guess.
Joel, were peoples allegiances random and if so what ratio did you use? The rules say if the Mafia ever out number the town then the Mafia wins by default, therefore these facts have to be made known to the public if they already haven't been posted somewhere that I missed.
Exactly brother. So far everyone is voting for different individuals based on purely very vague hunches, speculation and suspicions. While it isn't obvious that Phatmann is a mafia member, his voting patterns seem to suggest that he could indeed be a mafia member if logic is used. Again, it's also possible that this theory (as mentioned in detail just a page or so back by myself and Dale) may not be totally correct however it does make sense in the method and considering we as a town have no better strategy right now it makes sense if we band together on this as previous vague voting has not worked.
We now have 45 minutes to identify or at least come close to believing we've identified a mafia member in our town, and as far as previous voting goes, it's quite likely to be Phatmann it seems. As mentioned by many in this thread, in order to win this game, the town need to band together as a true community on these decisions otherwise we're going to remain segregrated and in trouble for the remainder of the game as we're picked off.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 23:25
Dundon's the sides were selected randomly. It's the only fair way to do it.
That throws every theory I had into the air. I like a good challenge as much as the next fella but fucking hell this is going to be a hard nut to crack. :faceplm:
30 minutes left to vote everyone. Read through the last few pages and try to see the arguments before voting.
We need to stick together as a community if we're to break ground.
I'm so confused :D
The two people I thought were mafia (Hunter and Phats) are now against eachother. But of course that could still be a trick. :ninja:
I'm so confused :D
The two people I thought were mafia (Hunter and Phats) are now against eachother. But of course that could still be a trick. :ninja:
:lol:
We can discuss speculation and guessing all we like, but no one has really laid down any solid reasoning as to why we should vote for so and so. However looking at the voting patterns reveals a lot, and to be honest, as others have even said previously in this thread (Sminky also mentioned it), we as a community need to decide on one person and to stick together on the vote if we're to get anywhere. That person, who so far me and Dale believe to be based on the patterns of voting and inconsistencies to be Phatmann. If it is indeed Phatmann who is mafia, then it will really unearth a foundation that we can work from also as we can then use the previous voting choices to our advantage before the mafia begin bluffing big time now that this strategy is out in the open.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 23:39
Right I'm going to give in to the crowd for the sake of the game. I will therefore change my vote to the Phattman. Sorry kid, angry mob and all. :/
Yep,
Unvote Hunter, Vote Phatmann
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 23:46
Dundons, don't do it. Just look at the lads you are following for god sake. Dale and Hunter. Don't you find it strange how they've took it upon themselves to be the self-proclaimed "leaders" of the town folk? They are pushing and pushing this "vote phatmann" like mad which seems really dodgy to me. I just hope they don't bamboozle anyone else.
Top Gun lacks balls to stand up to them too.
Phatmann stop clinging to stupid arguements :S
I've never said that I should be the leader of the town, as stated above.
Tbf, if we are wrong again and you are a Townie. Then Hunter and Dale will be gone over the next few days.
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 23:50
I didn't say you said it, I said you've pretty much acted like you are and you have both rallied for votes against me continuously. I had hoped that the townsfolk had learnt from the lynching of Papa but I'm sure if I get lynched, everyone will know who the members of the mafia are, as most would have been those who voted for me.
Update for votes received:
Dale C. - 4 (muscularmatt, Billy Minof, Dragonfly, Rainey)
Phatmann - 4 (Dale C., Hunter, Dundon's, Top Gun)
Hunter - 1 (Sminky)
Sminky - 1 (Ali_BWFC)
9 minutes to go.
8 votes needed for a lynch.
Dundon's
23-01-2011, 23:51
I am left with little option my friend, on the other hand if it turns out that you are a member of the town then I am very sorry for your troubles. On the other hand it will help support your case against Hunter and Dale for sure.
The best thing that can happen is that we fly through this first V1 game then setup a 2nd game almost straight away with proper roles and rules, there is no doubt that this is an excellent game if played correctly. Unfortunately we aren't even playing at the "basic" requirements.
Well if Phatmann is indeed a townie, like he is so ardently claiming he is, then I will have no leg to stand on, but at least there was some sort of logic being bought into the game instead of just mindless voting!
Either way my head is held high - be it in a noose or not.
I didn't say you said it, I said you've pretty much acted like you are and you have both rallied for votes against me continuously. I had hoped that the townsfolk had learnt from the lynching of Papa but I'm sure if I get lynched, everyone will know who the members of the mafia are, as most would have been those who voted for me.
Trust me, if I was mafia, I'd be going about business a lot more subtly. :laugh:
Your arguments just don't have enough heart, I don't feel what you're saying.
Either way my head is held high - be it in a noose or not.
That is bloody brilliant.
I know I'm a townie, I've tried to bring logic to the voting along with Dale and to implement a real strategy as opposed to simply voting based on absolutely nothing. As Dale says, if Phatmann is lynched, and is actually a townie which I doubt at the moment for obvious stated reasons, then I've no problem owning up to making the mistake. I'll never be ashamed of the decision I made because no one else apart from Dale has even attempted to seriously structure any form of voting (Bammers has explored somewhat mind).
Phatmann
23-01-2011, 23:54
I am left with little option my friend, on the other hand if it turns out that you are a member of the town then I am very sorry for your troubles. On the other hand it will help support your case against Hunter and Dale for sure.
The best thing that can happen is that we fly through this first V1 game then setup a 2nd game almost straight away with proper roles and rules, there is no doubt that this is an excellent game if played correctly. Unfortunately we aren't even playing at the "basic" requirements.
You could always vote for Dale. He had more votes than me before you voted. Why am I more likely to be mafia than Dale? Is your reason for voting for me that Dale is one of your mafia buddies?
It looks like everyones safe. Gonna be interesting to see who gets lynched my the mafia. We should learn a lot from it.
Phatmann you're showing yourself up now, and showing everyone that you are mafia. Your behaivour is erratic, childish and unproffesional.
I'm glad to see us townies banding together and taking logic for what it is - the proposed truth. And considering three of my votes are from people who have simply said 'vote Dale', it would seem i'm being targetted.
If I stay in, I can't wait for the next round.
I am left with little option my friend, on the other hand if it turns out that you are a member of the town then I am very sorry for your troubles. On the other hand it will help support your case against Hunter and Dale for sure.
The best thing that can happen is that we fly through this first V1 game then setup a 2nd game almost straight away with proper roles and rules, there is no doubt that this is an excellent game if played correctly. Unfortunately we aren't even playing at the "basic" requirements.
That is the plan.
Policeman, Doctor, Godfather and Serial Killer will be the roles that will be definitely added.
Day 2 Summary
Day 2 started with the people of PESGamingville finding Fick's lying dead.
A lot of speculation started quickly. People were trying to remember the last event of the day that could have seen Fick being killed.
Dale was first accused. Then later that day, the attention was turned towards Phatmann.
But at the end of the day, there wasn't a majority vote, which means there was no lynch.
Day 2 Conclusion: No lynch.
That Ends Day 2.
It's a shame more members weren't on to see the suspicion shift towards Phatmann.
muscularmatt
24-01-2011, 00:06
Dale you greasy little wap bastard!! I know you're guilty, and it's only a matter of time.
It's clear the both Phats and Dale are guilty, we must make sure we all concerntrate our efforts into killing those fuckers. Starting with Dale.
Who let this dingle bastard into our town, man?
Dale you greasy little wap bastard!! I know you're guilty, and it's only a matter of time.
It's clear the both Phats and Dale are guilty, we must make sure we all concerntrate our efforts into killing those fuckers. Starting with Dale.
With an argument as strong as that, you'll help sway the town's decision on voting in no time. :faceplm:
Phatmann
24-01-2011, 00:26
So, Dale and Hunter, who will you be whacking tonight? :shifty:
muscularmatt
24-01-2011, 02:46
Well I don't know how else to phrase it. I'm convinced they are both mafioso. I'd probably have died for it if I left it like that, but now I'm making such a fuss they'll leave me because it'll be too obvious.
I aint scared of you pasta munching degoes!
uA - 1905
24-01-2011, 05:21
Surely matt should be lynched on day 2.
Billy Minof
24-01-2011, 07:12
So tonight we lose another valuable member, shame on you all. :(
So tonight we lose another valuable member, shame on you all. :(
Depends what you mean by valuable. If the townie killed has been useless so far and not even attempted to identify the mafia members in our community, then they're not really valuable at all at the end of the day.
Billy Minof
24-01-2011, 09:29
Depends what you mean by valuable. If the townie killed has been useless so far and not even attempted to identify the mafia members in our community, then they're not really valuable at all at the end of the day.
I dont think that will happen somehow, why would the mafia choose to kill an inactive member they can pick them off once the active ones are dead and buried.
I dont think that will happen somehow, why would the mafia choose to kill an inactive member they can pick them off once the active ones are dead and buried.
Maybe choosing to eliminate a more active member would arouse suspicion? Whereas taking out an inactive member would leave very little trace of what happened and who carried out the act, as with the townie being inactive it's not as if it can be blamed on a grudge/vendetta. If an inactive member is clipped, then we have nothing to work with really do we? It's one of the reasons I've been rallying to get everyone not just involved, but actively involved in trying to seek out strategies and methods to identify the mafia within our community.
Maybe choosing to eliminate a more active member would arouse suspicion? Whereas taking out an inactive member would leave very little trace of what happened and who carried out the act, as with the townie being inactive it's not as if it can be blamed on a grudge/vendetta. If an inactive member is clipped, then we have nothing to work with really do we? It's one of the reasons I've been rallying to get everyone not just involved, but actively involved in trying to seek out strategies and methods to identify the mafia within our community.
I agree. We just can't have a couple of guys doing all the detective work. Everyone needs be as active as they can be so that The Mafia don't have the choice between "oh, let's kill one of the main guys to keep this questioning going" or "will we kill a silent guy to arouse more suspicion".
Agreed.
I've been looking back at some past events and even making notes so that I don't forget the patterns that have arisen and the pages on which these take place. I'm not prepared to divulge just yet though for two reasons; a) I'm not even sure whether we're allowed to discuss openly such matters in the Night Time, I think we are as long as it doesn't relate directly to voting, but still I'd like this clarified, and... b) discussing certain members and their agendas during the Night Time will just allow the mafia to alter their strategy at the moment.
You're not really supposed to discuss anything at Night Time. But I don't mind you guyd looking back on what previously has happened.
But try not to influence anything for the next day. Leave that for Day Time matters.
So to clarify, we can talk about past events, we can't talk about past events in a strategising manner? Only on what has happened without adding our thoughts on why these happened?
Correct. Well tbh, if you're going to comment about the last day, it's going to be hard not to speculate. Just try not to get into the heavy, deep stuff before the day starts.
No problem brother. Seems reasonable.
And for the record, this is my 10,000th post. I couldn't think of a better way to make a 10,000th post than to do so by declaring war against la cosa nostra.
I've been enjoying this game so far, Dale..
I was, but an untimely exit put pay to that :no: I hope I am mafia next time so that I may exact some revenge!
[I]However, from a dead person's perspective, it is quite interesting just sitting back and reading this without having to worry what I look like and I've got to say
Well said. It's nice to not be so paranoid.
So when is the next mafia killing announced, is it 6pm like yesterday?
Hope to have it by that time, but will give them a little extra time if needed, being a weekday and all. No idea what their schedule is like.
I'm guessing you post it up as soon as the decision has been made as opposed to announcing it at a set time even if they've given you the decision earlier in the day?
Yeah. If I get the decision before 6pm, then I'll just post it up and start Day 3.
Night 2 Summary
After there wasn’t a death during the day time, the town thought everything may be getting back to normal and such; they got on with their lives.
Night time came and while most people were going to their homes after work, Dragonfly was off to his stand up comedy club.
Noticing he was nearly out off petrol, he stopped at a petrol station. He filled up his tank, went to the shop, paid and headed back to his car.
Back in his car as soon as he was about to start the ignition, he felt something poke him on the back of the head and then he heard a voice, “if you don’t want me to set of this SPAS-12, then I suggest you get the fuck outta this car”.
Dragonfly immediately got out of the car where four other guys were waiting for him.
One man said, “You really ought to lock your car when you leave it”.
“I would, but I only have a key to lock the car door” Dragonfly replied.
“Oh look, it’s a funny guy. Full of jokes” said another mafia member. “How long do you think it will take for us to kill you right now? Do you have a joke for that?”
“Longer than it takes you to finish your business in the bedroom, that’s for sure. So maybe 10 seconds?”
And those were Dragonfly’s last words, as he was knocked unconscious by the butt of the gun.
“Shall, I finish him off now?” asked the gun man.
“Nah. I have an idea” the leader said calmly. “You see those petrol pumps over there? Why don’t two of you pour some petrol over our funny little friend here”.
Following their leaders instructions, two of the members started to pour petrol over Dragonfly, as the leader stepped back a bit, pulled out a cigar, lit it up and started to have a smoke.
“You know what the problem with these cigars is? They are so big, that you can never finish them off”. And with that, the leader flicked the burning cigar towards Dragonfly, who was then engulfed in flames.
“Oh my! He’s been telling so many good jokes that he’s on fire!”
“I’m burning with laughter here!”
“Quick, let’s get outta here before anyone comes. Good work, boys.”
Night 2 Conclusion: Mafia kills Dragonfly.
End of Night 2.
Day 3 has now started
It will end tomorrow midnight.
Go to the voting thread when you are ready to cast your vote.
So was he a townie or what?
Yup. Mafia members can't kill another mafia member at night.
Oh fair enough. I thought you had everyones roles on the first post, when they died obviously? Or did I just totally miss that?
Actually I didn't. But that is a good idea, so I will add it.
Rest in peace Dragonfly brother.
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Phatmann
24-01-2011, 19:06
The fire jokes were a nice touch, Joel.
Yeah man, well written. I think Barndoor should guest write one of those :lol:
Bammers05
24-01-2011, 19:16
R.I.P. Dragonfly
We need to sort this out ASAP. Have we reached an agreement yet on unanimous voting?
We can't use fractured voting anymore. We must discuss our nominations and debate there merits but conform to a group decision or we're going to end up brown bread.
*cought use the delete button* ;)
Shit! Bloody internet lag!
Excellenty unfolded Joel.
Excellenty unfolded Joel.
Indeed. I was expecting a simple yet elegant single shot to the back of the head during the description, but he managed to turn it into something so brutal it should be x-rated.
Well played Joel.
Thank you for the kind comments, guys.
Now, I wonder who is going to get the Casino shovel style death :hmm:
Ali_BWFC
24-01-2011, 23:06
Never saw that one coming. RIP Dragonfly.
Definitely need to come to a unanimous decision in this next round on who to lynch. I have 3 people on my shortlist, I'm fairly certain that at least 2 of them will be mafia, especially after looking back on a few of Dragonflys comments.
I'm guessing we're gonna stick with this thread for the daytime? Not move to a new one for each day?
Nah, not making a new thread (only the one for voting).
But maybe I'll try it with multiple threads in the next installation.
Yeah this is the discussion thread, the other thread is purely for voting only.
What are your suspicions Ali?
Never saw that one coming. RIP Dragonfly.
Definitely need to come to a unanimous decision in this next round on who to lynch. I have 3 people on my shortlist, I'm fairly certain that at least 2 of them will be mafia, especially after looking back on a few of Dragonflys comments.
I'm guessing we're gonna stick with this thread for the daytime? Not move to a new one for each day?
Intriguing that you say that, I have a couple of people myself who I believe genuinely to be mafia. It'll be interesting to hear everyone's theories before we come together for a community vote.
Ali_BWFC
24-01-2011, 23:26
Nah, not making a new thread (only the one for voting).
But maybe I'll try it with multiple threads in the next installation.
It's probably a good idea. Keep it as it is for now though.
Yeah this is the discussion thread, the other thread is purely for voting only.
What are your suspicions Ali?
Well, my main suspicions (every time I look at that word, I think there schould be another 's'... it doesn't look right...anyway) are with Hunter and Phatmann. I believe ONE of them to be mafia. If one of them was to be lynched today, for me, the other one would be in the clear.... for now at least.
My other suspicion is with you... for the simple fact that Dragonfly voted for you, now he is gone. But then, so did 3 others... and they're still there..... but then..... mafia can only lynch one at a time. I dunno, it's weak. I'm not ready to accuse you yet though.
Fair play. I'm going to take all accusations with a pinch of salt, because the people accusing me could be mafia or townie, so I suppose it's fair that you're thinking like that; good townie work.
On the other hand, someone who didn't take being accused lightly was Phatmann, which is why this round, i'm going to continue my push to get him lynched, as I think it's fairly obvious that he is mafia. People were coming round to the logic that I was employing aswell, and a few people changed their votes and it seemed like people were agreeing with me, so.
It's just a shame that more people weren't on at the time because I think that we could have had our first mafia lynching last night.
Are we agreed on how we are going to approach voting though? If not I'm going to bloody vote for myself! :D
Ali_BWFC
24-01-2011, 23:38
Fair play. I'm going to take all accusations with a pinch of salt, because the people accusing me could me mafia or townie, so I suppose it's fair that you're thinking like that; good townie work.
On the other hand, someone who didn't take being accused lightly was Phatmann, which is why this round, i'm going to continue my push to get him lynched, as I think it's fairly obvious that he is mafia. People were coming round to the logic that I was employing aswell, and a few people changed their votes and it seemed like people were agreeing with me, so.
It's just a shame that more people weren't on at the time because I think that we could have had our first mafia lynching last night.
People have been accusing you since the beginning, and you're still standing :) You're like Anne Widdecombe, John Seargent and Wagner rolled into one :laugh: Though I don't watch any of that shit. :cool:
I think if Phatmann isn't mafia, Hunter will be. Those 2 have been at each other these past few pages. I'm happy to go with majority this time round.
Well it's clear that a community vote has to happen. Another way of going about it could to be to post a shortlist of who's on who's suspicions, and the average it out and vote the highest average out. As there are more townies than mafia, we could have the numbers advantage.
I was going to suggest a simple vote, but as people can't be on at the same time, it'd be pretty hard to do.
Right, well I stand by initial decision to vote for Hunter.
Debate.
Well what evidence do you have that Hunter could be mafia? I've seen nothing in his posts that could be construed as mafia-oriented. He's approached the game with logic, and seems to be willing to employ a strategy as opposed to voting randomly like most.
I really don't think Hunter is mafia, so if you could explain more?
I think if Phatmann isn't mafia, Hunter will be. Those 2 have been at each other these past few pages. I'm happy to go with majority this time round.
The reason for my strength in appeal to rid Phatmann is purely because of the reason we're here, I'm almost certain that he is mafia. If I was a mafia member myself, I wouldn't be so outspoken, I wouldn't be as brash as to blatently appeal for a lynch. This is evident by the number of people refraining from sharing their real thoughts on the matter, and a lot are simply cruising by with minimal posts, effort and teamwork. I genuinely believe that if we can prove Phatmann to be mafia, then we're really onto something, as the cracks that I believe are there, will almost be confirmed. I don't particularly want to divulge a great deal at the moment, but I'm willing if it's absolutely necessary closer to lynching time.
At the time, on Day 3 today, it's quite literally all or nothing now. We're 3 townies down, we just can't afford to be 4 down before the mafia's Night Time period otherwise we're done for. We can't wait it out either this time and not lynch anybody, our numbers are declining and if we're to search for inconsistencies and identify mafia we need to do it in a collective manner. It's great that people are seemingly exploring theories and suspicions more adequately though rather than blindly pointing fingers.
Well what evidence do you have that Hunter could be mafia? I've seen nothing in his posts that could be construed as mafia-oriented. He's approached the game with logic, and seems to be willing to employ a strategy as opposed to voting randomly like most.
I really don't think Hunter is mafia, so if you could explain more?
His approach is far to 'measured' for a townie. Too much attention to detail and an interest in misdirection.
That and his frequent insistence that he is a townie.
Don't you think that a measured approach is exactly what we need though? We're outnumbering the mafia, but that could soon change, so we need to start outthinking the mafia and not relying on our large numbered group.
Soon we won't be able to rely on the numbers, and then we'll be fucked really.
I'm sticking by my decision to vote for Phatmann anyway, because I think it's so obvious that he is mafia it's really fucking doing my head in as to why other people can't see it :lol:
His approach is far to 'measured' for a townie. Too much attention to detail and an interest in misdirection.
That and his frequent insistence that he is a townie.
Yeah, because we'll win the game by not actually trying. :faceplm:
I see your point Dale but being too clever in this game can equally be seen as subterfuge.
Yeah, because we'll win the game by not actually trying. :faceplm:
Methinks he doth protest too much :hmm:
I know exactly what you mean, and i'm taking that on board seriously, but I think we need to start being clever instead of the country bumpkin cleetus' that you seem to think we are :lol:
I've mentioned on several occasions that while my theory is grounded in logic and does have a structure, it is somewhat limited with the game being so early in it's development. That logic and theory is likely to strengthen as the game progresses and more cracks become evident.
I know exactly what you mean, and i'm taking that on board seriously, but I think we need to start being clever instead of the country bumpkin cleetus' that you seem to think we are :lol:
Fair enough. So you consider Hunter to be a townie and Phats mafia. What does everyone else think? Are we going to end up with four candidates again?
Fair enough. So you consider Hunter to be a townie and Phats mafia. What does everyone else think? Are we going to end up with four candidates again?
Generally yes. I have a few other candidates in mind that I think are mafia and townie, but they haven't really cropped up in discussion that much, and I think we have to deal with the issue at hand, so yeah i'm still going to push for Phatmann.
Is there even anyone else online :lol:
Ali_BWFC
25-01-2011, 00:08
Generally yes. I have a few other candidates in mind that I think are mafia and townie, but they haven't really cropped up in discussion that much, and I think we have to deal with the issue at hand, so yeah i'm still going to push for Phatmann.
Is there even anyone else online :lol:
There isn't many Mafia Wars members on at the moment. I'm gonna call it a night, and hope some progress is made when I turn on tomorrow.
Generally yes. I have a few other candidates in mind that I think are mafia and townie, but they haven't really cropped up in discussion that much, and I think we have to deal with the issue at hand, so yeah i'm still going to push for Phatmann.
Is there even anyone else online :lol:
Ok lets get this noted.
Sminky suspects: Hunter
Dale suspects: Phats
Yeah a good idea is to keep it noted as we go along, Sminky you can be the town scribe :D
Be that as it may, I don't think anything is going to get resolved now, so i'm off aswell. Night chaps.
Based on everything that's been provided;
I also suspect Phatmann to be an infiltrator.
So that is now:
Sminky suspects: Hunter
Dale suspects: Phatmann
Hunter suspects: Phatmann
Yeah same here, I'm calling it a night.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 01:12
Shame to see DF go down in the night like that, he was a long way off my suspect list if truth be told.
Shame to see DF go down in the night like that, he was a long way off my suspect list if truth be told.
Me too. Wasn't even on my radar.
Billy Minof
25-01-2011, 09:38
Based on everything that's been provided;
I also suspect Phatmann to be an infiltrator.
So that is now:
Sminky suspects: Hunter
Dale suspects: Phatmann
Hunter suspects: Phatmann
Minofs suspects: Hunter and Dale
Sorry guys your just too suspicious for my liking.
As for Dragonfly, RIP dude, the funeral to be held tomorrow evening.
Closed casket because of the severity of the burns.
Care to explain in any more detail? A community vote isn't going to vote if we don't give proper reasons. Unless by giving such a shit reason, maybe you're telling us that you're willing to somehow change your vote??
Billy Minof
25-01-2011, 11:58
Well what evidence do you have that Hunter could be mafia? I've seen nothing in his posts that could be construed as mafia-oriented. He's approached the game with logic, and seems to be willing to employ a strategy as opposed to voting randomly like most.
I really don't think Hunter is mafia, so if you could explain more?
Generally yes. I have a few other candidates in mind that I think are mafia and townie, but they haven't really cropped up in discussion that much, and I think we have to deal with the issue at hand, so yeah i'm still going to push for Phatmann.
Is there even anyone else online :lol:
Care to explain in any more detail? A community vote isn't going to vote if we don't give proper reasons. Unless by giving such a shit reason, maybe you're telling us that you're willing to somehow change your vote??
Yes, you and Hunter have been acting like the best of bum chums the last few days, encouraging votes/discouraging votes as to not have enough members for a lynching and deflecting peoples suspicions of one another almost as if you are part of a team AKA the Mafia.
If I am wrong then I will step up to the plate and accept the lynching tomorrow night from my fellow townies and sacrifice myself for the good of the town. If they still think im a Mafia. That is if you/Hunter and co dont take me out tonight. :erm:
So I say Vote Dale, then if im right Vote Hunter tomorrow night and they will crumble. :cool:
Yes, you and Hunter have been acting like the best of bum chums the last few days, encouraging votes/discouraging votes as to not have enough members for a lynching and deflecting peoples suspicions of one another almost as if you are part of a team AKA the Mafia.
If I am wrong then I will step up to the plate and accept the lynching tomorrow night from my fellow townies and sacrifice myself for the good of the town. If they still think im a Mafia. That is if you/Hunter and co dont take me out tonight. :erm:
So I say Vote Dale, then if im right Vote Hunter tomorrow night and they will crumble. :cool:
It's just a shame that we've been crumbling as a community for several days now, and when we finally pull together, in this instance me and Dale, it's considered actions of the mafia. It's a lose-lose situation here; if you don't make an effort and sit back you're looked at as a townie, but if you're too far back you're mafia, and if you actually try to actively identify the mafia using a structure and logic then you're mafia yourself. The mafia are probably in their secret section laughing as the days go on and they have to make little effort to confuse the town folk as we bicker amongst ourselves.
I also hate it when people say something silly like "that is if you/Hunter and co dont take me out tonight" because it just adds another element of paranoia. The mafia probably want to take you out now to deflect attention away from themselves as everyone will end up pointing the finger at me and/or Dale simply because you've said that, and no one else seems to be logical enough to think things through. I don't blame them though, why think if it's only going to result in a lynching.
It's just frustrating when you note down inconsistencies and potential weaknesses from those who you believe to be mafia, and it feels like you're genuinely making progress, only to be rejected by your own people, all of whom have been 'lobbying' for logic and a strategy for the last 30 pages. I'm sure you can understand that. I'll discuss my thoughts and my slightly more developed theory soon to try and encourage the town to vote Phatmann today, as we almost achieved the lynching last night had it not been for the theory being provided too late on in the process (1 hour from midnight on Day 2). With more time today though, I think we'll be able to reach a unanimous decision. It's not as if we have a choice now mind, as it's come to a point where it's all or nothing to be honest.
As I say, I'll post up my thoughts quite soon. I'm just transferring some music and whatnot from my laptop onto a friend's external hard drive before I give it back to him tonight.
Billy Minof
25-01-2011, 13:51
Fair enough, time to put the town first.
I am going to unvote Dale now and ill go with the majority, if proof of another member comes to light keep us all in the loop and we can decide together.
Time to go check out Phatts behavior.
There's two ways of looking at it though Hunter. It's a convincing argument given the theories and logic put forward by some people that they are one of us. But at the same time, this would also be a smart tactic for a mafia member to portray (as you've basically stated). There's gonna have to come a time when some form of trust is made.
I agree though in that we need to reach a majority decision as a group. Almost have to take risks now as the mafia are basically winning this right now. Having no day time lynchings means they're safe anyway so it'll be impossible to win that way.
So we're still at:
Sminky suspects: Hunter
Dale suspects: Phatmann
Hunter suspects: Phatmann
I'm prepared to change my vote to Phats - but only if the rest of the community is leaning in that direction.
Ali_BWFC
25-01-2011, 14:51
So we're still at:
Sminky suspects: Hunter
Dale suspects: Phatmann
Hunter suspects: Phatmann
I'm prepared to change my vote to Phats - but only if the rest of the community is leaning in that direction.
Do you actually believe Phats is a mafia member? Or will you just be changing to him for the sake of a lynching?
I agree with the idea of banding together. But I don't think we should do it JUST to get a lynching. We need to be certain that the person we're voting for is mafia, or it's another townie down.... and then another townie down tomorrow when the mafia place their vote.
I believe ONE of Hunter and Phats to be mafia, so I'm happy to chose either.
EDIT: I'm suspicious of a couple more people too, but with the way voting is going at the moment, I'll save those suspicions until a later date.
Bammers05
25-01-2011, 16:29
Firstly, sorry about not having posted much in the last day or so - been pretty busy.
Anyway, I can see that a lot of people are swaying towards the idea of voting Phatmann off, but I'm not convinced. I can understand why he's under suspicion, but I haven't seen enough conclusive evidence to support lynching him, so I'm unsure. Having said that, if someone were to show me why it's 'so obvious', as Dale puts it, then I may well change my mind, but, as of now, I'm unsure, as I said.
I'll just quote a post I made late last night to show my reasoning as to why I currently suspect Phatmann to be a mafia member, and for those yet to see it:
Based on the voting patterns from Day 1, I'd have to say Phatmann. Everything we've suggested thus far has been generally skepticism and suspicion, while Dale has recently mentioned the voting patterns - which I've now explored.
Day 1 saw a very even spread of voting from individuals:
Dale voted for Papa
Papa voted for Top Gun
Minof voted for Papa
Rainey voted for Phatmann
Appswah voted for Sminky
Phatmann voted for Rainey
Sminky voted for Hunter
Hunter voted for Papa
Bammers voted for Papa
Phatmann unvoted Rainey, then voted for Papa
Appswah unvoted Sminky, then voted for Papa
Sminky unvoted Hunter, then voted for Papa
Ali voted for Papa
Dragonfly voted for Dale
muscularmatt voted for Papa
TheBishop voted for Jonno
Now, looking at the break down of this Day 1 voting, as you can see it's a relatively even spread until I voted for Papa (for his stupid "I am a mafia member statement"). Anyway Bammers also voted for Papa. I genuinely believe Bammers to be a townie, especially as he's explored back through the thread and even aided in theories and the investigation. However, this is the point in which Phatmann changed his vote. Papa had only received 4 votes at this point and was far from a lynching, however it can be argued that Phatmann saw the opportunity for a townsperson to be lynched and decided to roll with the punch and further influence the votes to flood in. He clearly switched his vote, from Rainey to Papa - which may also on a side note potentially indicate that Rainey is actually a townie as well if Phatmann was originally trying to vote him for the rope - before then switching to another townie (Papa) who looked more likely to receive the death sentence.
Another interesting point to make I think is Bishop's very late decision to vote for Jonno despite the figures obviously suggesting that Papa was going to be lynched. Bishop made the vote in an almost nonchalant manner - possibly to remain involved in the game without actually contributing to a major decision, in order to avoid blame? If Bishop voted Papa and helped rub salt into the wound, then possibly it would have aroused suspicion, but by voting Jonno he may be hoping to pass by unnoticed by making a completely meaningless vote.
These are just a few theories, grounded in more logic than we've previously viewed matters, which is why I think they need to be seriously looked at and contemplated when making a decision voting. Considering we've pretty much nothing else to go off, and as I've mentioned previously; my vote is for Phatmann. I really think this is a moment where we need to band together as a community and go for it, as we're going to just keep getting picked off if we fail to attempt lynching the mafia members through our own personal agendas to vote for different people.
Now, with it being such an early stage in the game, this theory is limited of course, however it is rooted to an extent in logic and uses voting patterns as a method to identify the mafia member. So far, everyone has cried out for this sense of community and strategic planning to come into play since our blind voting was clearly failing.
On top of what I already think, I believe Minof to be a townie, one of us. He's been strongly suggesting for the last day or so that we implement a seperate voting thread in order to be able to plan our strategies more efficiently based on the town's voting patterns - a method Dundon's also agreed with which is worth noting. While it can be argued that campaigning for a seperate voting thread can also be useful to the mafia, I think to be honest our fractured voting of different individuals and doing so on different pages hindered our chances and the mafia were benefiting more from it. I also don't believe Minof's posts or actions to be inconsistent either if I'm honest, just paranoid which is understandable for this game.
I have further theory with regards to another member besides Phatmann being mafia, however I'm not going to divulge that just yet obviously. If we can send Phatmann to the rope and prove that he's mafia, then I believe my theory on the other member is correct also, which would go some way in helping us break ground and push forward.
As I've said before, it's all or nothing now, and we can't afford to not take the risk of sending someone to the rope. We need to take action before our numbers dwindle even more, and we need to do so in order to identify cracks in the mafia's game, because if we just sit back and continue voting in the manner we are, not only will we all be picked off one by one, but we also won't dent the mafia's planning and strategies.
Bammers05
25-01-2011, 16:50
Fair enough. I'm not sure how I managed to miss that post :faceplm:
I do agree that we need to get rid of someone today. Going into the fourth day, having not lynched anyone for a couple of days, would play right into the mafia's hands, so I agree that a lynching must take place today. I just think it's hugely important that we get the right man and that's what I wanted to convey with that earlier post. However, having now seen what you've said, if we come to a unanimous decision on Phatmann, I'll be happy to go with it.
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You're gonna need a stronger rope.
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You're gonna need a stronger rope.
:laugh::laugh:
Gold.
Ahh some progress, finally.
As I said i'm more than willing to go with group mentality aswell (actually I may have just thought that :erm:) but as of yet, no-ones really gave any good theories as to why I should change my vote, apart from Minof who was on about voting me, but obviously I wouldn't agree with that :laugh:
We need more people to come on and give their opinions, as clearly 4 or so people aren't enough to get a lynching.
Good to see people putting the town first though man, we'll get there in the end boys.
muscularmatt
25-01-2011, 18:36
Do we actually know how many mafia there are?? Is it just a couple or what?
Do we actually know how many mafia there are?? Is it just a couple or what?
5 mafia I believe Joel mentioned, and 10 townies. At least that's how many there is now I think.
I'm a little surprised with the lack of discussion in this thread at such a crucial point in not just the day, but the game overall as well. Sure, the United match is on I guess. At the moment I'm on the verge of vomiting though if I'm honest with the football I'm witnessing. Oh, and that was definitely a penalty. Anyway...back to Mafia Wars.
It seems we're all so distrusting of one another we don't want to rush into lynching anyone. I still think we have to chance our arm and make a decision, rightly or wrongly. Its pot luck after all. Perhaps we should start voting for the people continuously absent from the thread??
Phatmann
25-01-2011, 21:50
I still can't believe people are falling for a rather illogical load of bollocks that Hunter has come up with. Why is it you haven't discussed the killing of Dragonfly yet and how that fits into your apparently well thought out conclusion? I'm still surprised that Dale and Hunter have been allowed to force their opinions so frequently on people with such ferocity. For the record, I still am unsure whether Hunter is a mafia member but I am very suspicious of Dale.
It is a viable strategy that Sminky, and one i've though of doing already; if they're not getting involved they may aswell not be here at all right?
I just think that we should push for the Phatmann lynch, and get a mafia out of the way with, but as I stated before, i'm pushing majorly for a community vote and not voting with the community is going directly against what i've been saying, so I would be willing to try that strategy Sminky, we just have to decide on an absent member!
Edit: Ferocity?! What have you been reading? I'm just making decisions and trying to use a strategy to get to the mafia :/
Why are you overreacting all the time?
Phatmann
25-01-2011, 21:56
How many posts have you and Hunter been making to rally for me to get lynched? In fact that post right there is another! I wouldn't mind if you actually provided some substantial evidence/theory to accuse me but I'm still waiting.
Well for my money, the most absent member is and has been Jonno, followed by Dundon's.
Try reading back Phats, I have done several times. I'm not going to go hunting through the thread for you mate.
Yeah, has Jonno posted even once?
Bammers05
25-01-2011, 21:59
5 mafia I believe Joel mentioned, and 10 townies. At least that's how many there is now I think.
I'm a little surprised with the lack of discussion in this thread at such a crucial point in not just the day, but the game overall as well. Sure, the United match is on I guess. At the moment I'm on the verge of vomiting though if I'm honest with the football I'm witnessing. Oh, and that was definitely a penalty. Anyway...back to Mafia Wars.
Wouldn't it be 9 townies, now Dragonfly's gone?
Btw, there were, also, other games on tonight, aside from the Man Utd one :D
I still can't believe people are falling for a rather illogical load of bollocks that Hunter has come up with. Why is it you haven't discussed the killing of Dragonfly yet and how that fits into your apparently well thought out conclusion? I'm still surprised that Dale and Hunter have been allowed to force their opinions so frequently on people with such ferocity. For the record, I still am unsure whether Hunter is a mafia member but I am very suspicious of Dale.
I did consider going through Dragonfly's posts in this thread earlier, but, considering how various people disagreed with my theory about Sminky last time, I thought I'd probably get the same answer as then, so I didn't get round to doing it. For what it's worth, I have now done so, and it's very interesting to note a significant amount of suspicion between Dragonfly and Dale. I don't think that's enough to let Phatmann off the hook, but it's certainly something worth noting.
Phatmann
25-01-2011, 21:59
Do you really need to go hunting through the thread to find the substantial evidence against me? Surely you know off hand why it is you're voting for me?
Jonno's replacement will be announced on Day 4.
2 more hours to go before the end of Day 3.
Dude look how many pages there are already :lol:
Anyway, i'm busy so I can't really add much to the discussion. I just came on for football talk really.
This has rather turned into a shambles! :D
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:06
Well for my money, the most absent member is and has been Jonno, followed by Dundon's.
I'm here junior and I think it's fairly obvious that I'm a townie. Otherwise I'd of been trying to stir up the shit.
I'll vote with the majority lads in true townie fashion.
P.S. With no roles it was always going to hit the wall but some folks were quite happy to see it trickle along.
Do you really need to go hunting through the thread to find the substantial evidence against me? Surely you know off hand why it is you're voting for me?
:lol:
There's not going to be "substantial evidence" for a while still, it's impossible really at such an early stage, especially with only townies being killed so far.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:17
So what's the word on the street?
So what's the word on the street?
Well, we can all agree on coming together, but just not on who to come together and lynch. :lol:
I think Phatmann is up by a vote or two again. It's just a bit frustrating when people don't vote at all though despite being online and whatnot, ruins the game really.
Fuck all, we're all arguing like girls :faceplm:
I'm hoping I get slaughtered in a truly horrific fashion tonight to save myself from this enduring debacle! :loopy:
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:25
Well, we can all agree on coming together, but just not on who to come together and lynch. :lol:
I think Phatmann is up by a vote or two again. It's just a bit frustrating when people don't vote at all though despite being online and whatnot, ruins the game really.
Aye, I voted last night and will do the same tonight for the sake of making progress and moving onto V2 which should rock ballz -.-
Hold the fort Sminkster, you're playing a blinder.
Fuck all, we're all arguing like girls :faceplm:
I'm hoping I get slaughtered in a truly horrific fashion tonight to save myself from this enduring debacle! :loopy:
Indeed, if we fail to get enough votes for anything tonight I'll hang myself I think.
Make space for me on that gallows! :D
Make space for me on that gallows! :D
There's enough room for the whole town if we aim for a mass suicide.
I imagine this is what it feels like to own a liquor shop in a ghost town.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:32
Right fuck that, I voted Phatts again given he's ahead and time is running out. :hmm:
Do we need 7 or 8 votes for a lynching now? I'm a little confused, I'll look back through the threads and update this post to inform those unaware like me.
We currently have 7 though.
Phatmann
25-01-2011, 22:37
Fucking sheep, the lot of ye. Should be ashamed of yourselves.
There's enough room for the whole town if we aim for a mass suicide.
I imagine this is what it feels like to own a liquor shop in a ghost town.
I imagine this is what it would be like to sit through a weekend of Danny Dyer movies :huh:
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:38
Fucking sheep, the lot of ye. Should be ashamed of yourselves.
Gentlemen, I think we have got ourselves a witch. :smug:
I'm guessing the requisite votes have been made?
I imagine this is what it would be like to sit through a weekend of Danny Dyer movies :huh:
:laugh:
Genuinely made me laugh.
Hopefully tonight the night will brighten though, and brighten with the light of a mafia corpse being torched as the noose is burned by the town in a bid to plunge him amidst the town for a beat down with pitchforks and lanterns.
EDIT: Joel didn't stipulate how many votes were needed for a lynching when Day 3 begun, nor in the voting thread. I assume as I've said that it's probably 7 now we've lost a few people, or is it 8? It's 8 right if there's 9 town folk and 5 mafia = 14. Which means 8 would be the majority vote.
I think Joel can probably go grab his executioner's hood and lynching rope now.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 22:45
http://circusbrown.com/monty_python_witch-701441-thumb.jpg
"She turned me into a newt! .... I got better"
Bammers has now voted, confirming the demise of Phatmann.
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Bammers05
25-01-2011, 23:02
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Jeez this is like waiting for a train in the cold ... hurry up already! :D
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Jeez this is like waiting for a train in the cold ... hurry up already! :D
I remember once being stuck at York train station for about 4 hours, and we're talking about 2-5am (ish). It's worth mentioning as well that York train station is an outdoor station, with only one room with "heating" which wasn't very well heated at all. :faceplm: Me and my friend were just going up and down in the elevator at one point for about 15 minutes straight since it was slightly warmer in the elevator. :lol:
Ali_BWFC
25-01-2011, 23:13
Evening lads. Looks like Phatmann is out. No point in me voting. I was just going to go with the majority, like I've already explained.
Surely Joel can put us out of our misery? No need to wait until 12 now, I suppose.
Tonight in heaven, Muddy Waters will be playing Phatmann on the Gallows Blues.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 23:16
Looks like Phatmann is out. No point in me voting.
Interesting post :rolleyes:
Interesting post :rolleyes:
As soon as the voting is finished eh?
:rolleyes:
Hehe.
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 23:20
Right so, let's have it Joe!!!
http://www.freshersworld.com/files/u996649/phantom_scooby_doo_unmask_1_17 50.jpg
Bammers05
25-01-2011, 23:21
It's as if he knew the voting was finished and realised there'd be no point in voting :hmm:
Day 3 Summary
After finding the dead body of fellow townie Dragonfly, the town decided that they needed to find a breakthrough today and finally end the day on a positive note. The only way of doing this, was to work as a team.
At the end of Day 2, the attention seemed to turn to Phatmann and this didn't change on Day 3.
Phatmann pleaded his innocence, but the town had decided. This meant Phatmann was the second man to head to the rope.
It also meant that Phatmann, was the second townie to be lynched. This left the town under serious threat as Night 3 looms.
Day 3 Summary: Phatmann lynched.
Role: Townie.
That ends Day 3.
Me and Dale will look like royal arses if Phatmann turns out to be a townie. :faceplm: I expect to be lynched next if that's the case. :lol:
EDIT: Oh fuck. :faceplm:
:faceplm:
My theories are to shit, all of them. I've nothing left.
Bammers05
25-01-2011, 23:23
:faceplm:
Dundon's
25-01-2011, 23:23
:hmm:
I'm fucking embarrassed to be frank. But at least I genuinely tried to band a theory together with a vote.
This game is impossible without the extra roles.
Right ... well ... I'm hoping I'm next as we are doing shit.
Right ... well ... I'm hoping I'm next as we are doing shit.
Hey, don't forget me on the gallows as we've already agreed. I'll go first.
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