Mafia Wars II - The Return of the Town

[Joel]

Scenario

It had been a few years since the town had been taken over and demolished. It happened so fast.

If you walked through the ruins a few months ago, you could still hear the screems, see the scars and feel the pain.

The antagonist who caused this didn't even stick around. So why did it come to this? Was it a statement? Was it to test their limits? Was it just for fun? Questions that will never have any answers for.

But for the last months a new community has arrived. They have rebuilt the buildings, replanted the crops, given life to this town again.

They have appointed people with power, in a bid to make sure none of this happens again. Things were looking on the up...

... Until the news this morning. Rumours are spreading wildly that some folk of the community are ready to breakaway to form their own organisation and conquer this town.

But that's not the whole story, because apparently some individuals are looking to take the whole town for theirselves.

If things aren't sorted out quickly, we may have a repeat of the incident from years back. It's up to the true town members to stop this from happening.

But can they do it?

[Joel]

Participants

Dundon's - Godfather - Killed on Night 1 by the Serial Killer
Sminky - Survivor - Lynched on Day 3
Dale - Serial Killer - Killed on Night 4 by the Mafia
Top Gun - Reviver - Killed on Night 1 by the Mafia
Bammers
Ali - Towine - Lynched on Day 5
Hunter - Cop - Killed on Night 3 by the Serial Killer
Appswah
Bishop - Vengeful Townie - Lynched on Day 6
Matt
Phatmann - Mafia Roleblocker - Lynched on Day 4
chelsea11 - Townie - Killed on Night 2 by the Mafia
HH - Mason - Lynched on Day 2
laughin man - Mafia Goon - Killed by the Vengeful Townie on Day 6
Billy Minof - Mason - Killed on Night 3 by the Mafia
Papa - Elite Bodyguard - Killed on Night 5 by the Mafia

[Joel]

Rules

You’re not allowed to use the PM I sent you as proof of your role.

The day period will last 24 hours.

The night period will last for 18 hours (if need be).

Anyone with night roles, should PM me their decisions asap.

If there are more than half the votes for member, voting is suspended and the player has one last chance to prove his innocence. If they are not any unvotes after this, the player is lynched.

Votes can be made at any period during the day period.

To officially vote for a member, please put it in bold; e.g. VOTE NAME.

You are allowed to take away your vote at anytime during the day period. To officially do this please follow the same formula as above; e.g. UNVOTE NAME

If you vote, but then you have a change of mind and unvote, you are still allowed to vote (for anyone).

[Joel]

Day 1 has now started.

[Top Gun]

And here we go.

[Bammers05]

Let's lynch Lee Mason :angry:

[Michu]

Lets hope it isn't a complete shambles this time round :D

[Dale C.]

Shambles?! What do you mean Sminky, it was hilarious :lol: Even though I got killed, i'm prepared to look past that :angry:

[Dundon's]

There's no possible way that things to be as one sided as the last game, this time round we got the cops on our side. Conspiracy theories from Hunter and Dale should be avoided at all costs.

[Michu]

Some actual teamwork this time round might actually help :laugh:

[Bammers05]

You say it was a shambles, Sminky, but I feel you have to give the mafia credit for the win too. I believe we played our cards perfectly.

However, now that I'm on the other side, I aim to reverse that result and help make myself and my fellow townies reign victorious over whichever town this is.

[Dale C.]

Yeah sorry about the bad theories guys, although one was close to working, it involved the wrong people :faceplm:

New game anyway, let's find these bastards.

[Michu]

You say it was a shambles, Sminky, but I feel you have to give the mafia credit for the win too. I believe we played our cards perfectly.

However, now that I'm on the other side, I aim to reverse that result and help make myself and my fellow townies reign victorious over whichever town this is.

I can't give you guys credit for us arguing amongst ourselves :laugh:

[Bammers05]

I can't give you guys credit for us arguing amongst ourselves :laugh:

Yes you can :)

[Michu]

Yes you can :)

Touche :rolleyes:

[muscularmatt]

To the Mafia members...

http://www.global-snooker.com/images/delia-smith-lets-be-havin-you.jpg

... WHERE ARE YOU???

[Dale C.]

:lol:

[Dundon's]

:lol:


Papa made a similar post to that and got lynched for it. :no:

[laughin man]

:lol:

Im votin Dale that wobbly lip an obvious sign he's nervous :ninja:

[muscularmatt]

I've always thought that smiley was a bit shit, tbf. LOL is it? Looks more like someone having a stroke.

[Ali_BWFC]

Im votin Dale that wobbly lip an obvious sign he's nervous :ninja:

Ahhh, so the Dale suspicion has started already :hmm:

I think we need to get off to a good start. Lynching a townie in the first round, will only make us more paranoid and start to feel the worst. I don't think we should be so hastey to suspect someone, as you lot were in the last game.

[Dale C.]

Papa made a similar post to that and got lynched for it. :no:

To be fair I think it was the fact that he stated he was mafia :laugh:

Yeah Ali's right man, we need to learn from our mistakes from last game if we're going to win this time round.

[Appswah]

:shifty:

[Hunter]

Ahhh, so the Dale suspicion has started already :hmm:

I think we need to get off to a good start. Lynching a townie in the first round, will only make us more paranoid and start to feel the worst. I don't think we should be so hastey to suspect someone, as you lot were in the last game.

Definitely. It'll be for the best if we sit back this time from constantly pointing fingers, and instead genuinely coming up with ways in which we can actually identify the mafia members. I think my downfall in Mafia Wars I was being too enthusiastic, which clouded my judgement somewhat, so it might be best if we still continue to post of course but do so in a reserved and non-judgemental way, at least initially anyway.

[Dale C.]

Yeah I was going to lay back a bit anyway, give someone else a chance to fuck the game up :laugh:

Anyway, there are 16 of us, no?

So this means there must be about 7-8 mafia members?

[Hunter]

There would still be 5 wouldn't there? There was 5 last time right? And there was a lot of people playing. I'm sure Joel can clarify this, if he wants to anyway, he might want everything surrounding the game to be mysterious.

I fear if I hang back too much I'll be lynched by my own people as opposed to sliced by the mafia. It's a difficult medium to reach, but if everyone is less paranoid this time round then I think we all have some flex to an extent.

[Ali_BWFC]

Yeah I was going to lay back a bit anyway, give someone else a chance to fuck the game up :laugh:

Anyway, there are 16 of us, no?

So this means there must be about 7-8 mafia members?

Less than that I'd say. With 17 last time, there were 5 mafia members. The game ends when there are less townies than mafia, so having 7 or 8 mafia would make the game a bit easy! I'd say that there would be 4 mafia.

[Papa]

I am a member of the mafia.


Fuck it, second time lucky!

[Hunter]

I am a member of the mafia.


Fuck it, second time lucky!

Now this is confusing.

I say we just vote for him again for;

1. The stupidity
2. It could be a bluff based on his previous one, thinking we won't make the same mistake of voting for him again because of it.

Hmm...

[Ali_BWFC]

Now this is confusing.

I say we just vote for him again for;

1. The stupidity
2. It could be a bluff based on his previous one, thinking we won't make the same mistake of voting for him again because of it.

Hmm...

It's a strange thing to say either way.

Here's a few things we should look out for:

People who posted frequently in the last round, who now post a lot less (despite being online and posting in other threads).

We shouldn't rule out last round's mafia folk from being mafia this time.

EDIT: Joel should be booked for the blatant quadrouple post ;)

[Bammers05]

Here's a few things we should look out for:

People who posted frequently in the last round, who now post a lot less (despite being online and posting in other threads).

We shouldn't rule out last round's mafia folk from being mafia this time.

EDIT: Joel should be booked for the blatant quadrouple post ;)

I think it's also important that we analyze who votes for whom and see if there are any patterns. I know Hunter tried to do this last time and we, the mafia, were quite worried about it at the time, so I think it's quite important to use the voting to our advantage, as it's one of the few areas where it's possible to catch mafia-people out.

Also, when the mafia kill someone, I think it's important to analyze why they've chosen that person, or 'person A'. In my experience, it'll either be, because a) person A was suspicious of a mafia member or b) person A was clearly suspicious of person B and they want to direct the suspicion towards person B and take it away from the mafia. Our difficult job is deciding which one of those it is.

[Papa]

Now this is confusing.

I say we just vote for him again for;

1. The stupidity
2. It could be a bluff based on his previous one, thinking we won't make the same mistake of voting for him again because of it.

Hmm...

:laugh:

I'm just going to have that as my first post every time we play this game now, no matter what I am. For the record, I'm a townie with an interesting role (though do we all have roles or are some townies simply normal ones?) and would like to live past the first day this time, despite my jokes.

[Bish]

Matt has to die this time, I wish I killed him when I had the chance as a mafia member. I'm convinced his Delia Smith shout out is meant for his fellow batties. Quite happy with my role though.

[Dale C.]

Papa don't admit you have an interesting role dude, that will make you a target, and then we won't have any advantage :\

Papa could have just admitted he's a cop or something that could really help us :faceplm:



Here's a few things we should look out for:

People who posted frequently in the last round, who now post a lot less (despite being online and posting in other threads).


I don't think this necessarily means that the said person could be mafia. Take me for example, i'm naturally going to sit back a bit more than last round because I don't want to fuck things up for the town again!

Obviously i'll still help, but I won't be taking such a 'leading' role, as some folks called it.

I also am inclined to say that the last round means fuck all. The roles have changed and therefore people's posting strategy will have. The roles might have been kept the same, but considering Joel has used a randomiser (assumed) then the likelyhood of that happening is pretty low to be honest.

I agree with the 4-5 mafia members aswell, I thought 7-8 was too much, but I just wanted to see where everyone else stood on the issue.

[muscularmatt]

Now come on Bish don't make me go all High School Musical on you now, we need to think and work logically rather than just taking a cheap stab at the first person that comes to mind.

How many Mafia members were there last time? Surely anywhere near half the town would make the game unplayable, it'd have to be a small number.

[Ali_BWFC]

Papa don't admit you have an interesting role dude, that will make you a target, and then we won't have any advantage :\

Papa could have just admitted he's a cop or something that could really help us :faceplm:



I don't think this necessarily means that the said person could be mafia. Take me for example, i'm naturally going to sit back a bit more than last round because I don't want to fuck things up for the town again!

Obviously i'll still help, but I won't be taking such a 'leading' role, as some folks called it.

I also am inclined to say that the last round means fuck all. The roles have changed and therefore people's posting strategy will have. The roles might have been kept the same, but considering Joel has used a randomiser (assumed) then the likelyhood of that happening is pretty low to be honest.

I agree with the 4-5 mafia members aswell, I thought 7-8 was too much, but I just wanted to see where everyone else stood on the issue.

If Joe used a randomiser, the likelyhood of ANY of us being picked as mafia/townie/police/whatever is equal, regardless of what role we played last round. So myelf, Bammers, Bish for example, have the same chance at being picked as mafia as you do.

Now come on Bish don't make me go all High School Musical on you now, we need to think and work logically rather than just taking a cheap stab at the first person that comes to mind.

How many Mafia members were there last time? Surely anywhere near half the town would make the game unplayable, it'd have to be a small number.

There were technically 5 mafia last time, but effectively it was 4, since Jonno didn't join in, not even with our private discussions.

Bammers - We never lynched anyone because they were suspicious of us, that would be the wrong tactic... but then, nobody was really suspicious of us anyway.

[laughin man]

:shifty:

Oh no he didnt :ninja:

I am a member of the mafia.


Fuck it, second time lucky!

Perhaps... dunno would Joel have made it interesting like that, character reference dont know him well enough?

Anyway suspicion will get people nowhere organization is the key. Try locate the cop and hopefully the doctor to protect the cop that should be our goal ;)

[Dale C.]

If Joe used a randomiser, the likelyhood of ANY of us being picked as mafia/townie/police/whatever is equal, regardless of what role we played last round. So myelf, Bammers, Bish for example, have the same chance at being picked as mafia as you do.




That's a good point actually. My argument made sense at the time haha.



Anyway suspicion will get people nowhere organization is the key. Try locate the cop and hopefully the doctor to protect the cop that should be our goal ;)

Yeah that could be a helpful starting point. We could be in for some trouble though if more than one person declares themselves as cop, doctor etc.

Unless there are more than one person with the same role, Joel clear this up? Are each of the roles unique?

[Joel]

Not all roles are unique.

There is a role that both sides hold.

[Dundon's]

For Christ's sake fellah's don't make it public who the Cop and Doctor is. :faceplm:

[chelsea11]

Papa saying he's a townie with an interesting role, so we don't go for him? And Dale saying

Papa don't admit you have an interesting role dude, that will make you a target, and then we won't have any advantage :\

Papa could have just admitted he's a cop or something that could really help us

Trying to protect him.. hmm

[laughin man]

For Christ's sake fellah's don't make it public who the Cop and Doctor is. :faceplm:

Don't reveal the doctor obviously :tongue:

[Billy Minof]

EDIT: Joel should be booked for the blatant quadrouple post ;)

Definatly. :laugh:

:laugh:

I'm just going to have that as my first post every time we play this game now, no matter what I am. For the record, I'm a townie with an interesting role (though do we all have roles or are some townies simply normal ones?) and would like to live past the first day this time, despite my jokes.

I know you probably think its bluff/bluff double bluff but straight away you are casting a worrying eye over you in a town already paranoid off its tits.
I just think you shouldnt say it and keep the head down and survive, if your a townie then your going to die and you being alive benefits us townies if you have a good role or not because you have a voice, what you are doing or seem to be doing is harming the community and dividing us even more.if your not a townie then your only drawing attention to the Mafia and the rest of the Mafia crew wont take kindly to it, they showed no mercy last game.
It cost you your life last time and I was sorry to see you leave us, this time we need all the help we can get.

Anyway, the town seems nice and peaceful this time of the night. A bit too peaceful if you ask me. :unsure:

[Bish]

Noticed the only people yet to post so far are Phats and HH. Phats in particular is an interesting one. Lets not forget the inactive ones slipped under the radar last time, which meant we were able to work the rest of you against each other.

[laughin man]

Noticed the only people yet to post so far are Phats and HH. Phats in particular is an interesting one. Lets not forget the inactive ones slipped under the radar last time, which meant we were able to work the rest of you against each other.

On a small note since I am new to this, are we voting for someone to get lynched tonight or is it left afew days or what?

[Billy Minof]

Noticed the only people yet to post so far are Phats and HH. Phats in particular is an interesting one. Lets not forget the inactive ones slipped under the radar last time, which meant we were able to work the rest of you against each other.

Maybe they are under the impression that its starting tonight which is what I thought until Dundons called in today to find out what roll I got.........then again I could be wrong and you right. :ninja:

[Phatmann]

It's hard to make a judgement on who is what while completely disregarding everything in the previous game as I still feel the need for revenge for what Dale and Hunter did to me last time. :laugh: Seriously though, if anyone is gonna come up with a theory this time, don't go on a witch hunt and rally the whole town against one poor bloke; it just makes the town collapse while the mafia are sitting back watching in disbelief at our stupidity.

It'll be interesting to see how the roles in play affect the game this time around and hopefully we can get a bit more longevity in this, compared to last time.

[Billy Minof]

Dont forget, this time we have protection(I think) from the Cop.

We need to ask the cop to go to the game Admin and from there find out who(1 person per night) we want him to investigate, if he is Mafia then the intel will come back and we have our first victim or innocent man.

I dont want to say too much or ill get taken out by the Mafia tonight. :no:

[Dundon's]

I'm feeling the same thing, I don't know how we can do it but we need to have a group of Town people that can be trusted.

As for my own personal safety, I got brave in the later stages of the last game and started running my mouth, was sure I was talk'in to a dead man, but for the sake of order I am willing to speak out again.

[Hunter]

It's quite strange the little activity that has occured so far, especially considering there was 20+ pages in day 1 in the previous game. Possibly people want to keep their head down, but the first few to be killed by the mafia last time were the ones who laid low and stayed in the shadows.

I can only guess people have been busy.

Does everyone think it might be best to just lay back for a night and see how this progresses before jumping into a lynching which by the odds would go against us. But on the flip, it might be beneficial to analyse the voting patterns from day 1, which would involve a lynch, or attempted lynch, so it's a difficult situation really.

It might be smart for everyone to come up with some names for the cop to investigate as already mentioned in this thread though, especially if a strategy or viewpoint is to be reached.

[Dundon's]

It might be smart for everyone to come up with some names for the cop to investigate as already mentioned in this thread though, especially if a strategy or viewpoint is to be reached.

Now we're starting to think like a proper town. :cool:

[chelsea11]

I think the first game, (From reading along with it for the most part), everyone was trying to get adjusted to the game and see how you did it, explaining a lot more pages from the beginning.

I agree on the lynching bringing something to it, to analyse and whatnot, but would it not be completely random as of yet? Meaning we wouldn't reach the required target number for anyone.

I think Papa should be investigated just to call his bluff/double bluff anyway.

[Papa]

I think Papa should be investigated just to call his bluff/double bluff anyway.

:faceplm:

:laugh: Sure, I've got nothing to hide.

[Joel]

Dont forget, this time we have protection(I think) from the Cop.

We need to ask the cop to go to the game Admin and from there find out who(1 person per night) we want him to investigate, if he is Mafia then the intel will come back and we have our first victim or innocent man.

I dont want to say too much or ill get taken out by the Mafia tonight. :no:

Just to let you all know; once the cop asks me who he wishes to investigate, the moderator (me) only tells the cop. I don't publicise it.

After that, it is up to the cop on what he does. But he's not allowed to PM people the results of the investigation.

No one is allowed to PM people anything, unless you're in a group that allows you to; e.g. mafia or masons.

[Phatmann]

The first day in the first game started on a Friday night, plus there was no football on like there has been tonight and last night which probably explains why it has been so quiet in this thread so far. Also, people are probably not as gung-ho as the first game and are not rushing in accusing everyone left, right and centre like in the first game.

I'm not sure whether Papa would be stupid enough to let it out that he's mafia in such an obvious way, since it got him lynched straight away last time. Could be worth investigating but I feel it may be a waste.

[Hunter]

I can't really see any form of voting occurring tonight if I'm honest. 2 hours remaining in day 1 with little activity thus far, it seems everyone like Phatmann said is maybe a little more reserved.

[laughin man]

Just to let you all know; once the cop asks me who he wishes to investigate, the moderator (me) only tells the cop. I don't publicise it.

After that, it is up to the cop on what he does. But he's not allowed to PM people the results of the investigation.

No one is allowed to PM people anything, unless you're in a group that allows you to; e.g. mafia or masons.

This makes it very interesting... so the cop really has to come forward and get protected by the doctor ortherwise the role is worthless since you cant pm

[Joel]

^ With the inclusion of roles, everything is going to have to be tactically thought out.

55mins left. No votes. 9 votes needed for a lynch.

[Ali_BWFC]

I can't really see any form of voting occurring tonight if I'm honest. 2 hours remaining in day 1 with little activity thus far, it seems everyone like Phatmann said is maybe a little more reserved.

It might be because it's a football night. But I guess it's better to lynch nobody, than to be too hastey and lynch a townie.

[Billy Minof]

This makes it very interesting... so the cop really has to come forward and get protected by the doctor ortherwise the role is worthless since you cant pm

Not if he finds out who all the Mafia members are first before announcing his findings, then of course he will have to take one for the team.

[Bammers05]

I agree with Ali. Unless a definite suspect comes to the fore, I feel it's best that we don't lynch anyone and put the ball in the mafia's court.

[Dale C.]

Just got back from watching the games now. Craigy Gardner :smug: !!!!!

So no-ones voting tonight?

I think it was a brilliant idea to run up a shortlist for the cop to investigate, but I think the only person that seem to be on it is Papa (bluffing/double bluffing or whatever), so it might be a waste, but it might not.

If the cop investigates a mafia member though, how does the cop get us all to vote with him, but at the same time hiding the fact that he is the cop :laugh: I think that's the hardest role personally.

EDIT: Billy you've just answered my question sort of, top quality thinking. Unless the cop gets killed randomly :laugh:

[Ali_BWFC]

I think the cop just has to convince people in any (fair) way that he can, without saying that he KNOWS if someone is a mafia member.

[Billy Minof]

He could also be a liar and not a Cop just a Mafia member taking one for the team and drawing attention away from the others.
Its all a game of cat and mouse.

Anyway, im off to bed, hopefully someone doesnt die tonight, Real Madrid won, thats the main thing.

[Dale C.]

Yeah I got an early start in the morning aswell.

Let's just hope the doctor does his job well.

CRAIGY GARDNER IS A BLUE, IS A BLUE, IS A BLUE, CRAIGY GARDNER IS A BLUE, HE HATES VILLA!

[Ali_BWFC]

Doesn't look like anyone will vote tonight.... maybe Joel can extend it, but I doubt it. It's like we've all taken a stand over the mass unecessary killings :laugh:

[Dundon's]

Look as far as I see it the Cop knows who he is so all he needs to do is start checking out people on the sly, as soon as he knows a member to be town he can start trusting their views.

Joel also mentioned something about Masons, for us to have any chance of winning this game they need to work with the cop and try induct into their circles only people who the cop recommends.

[Joel]

The masons can't induct in this game. Just not enough numbers to allow that perk.

[Joel]

Day 1 Summary

The town seemed a little hesitant on Day 1. Maybe history is dictating their stance. Nothing dramtic happened. Now we await to see if there is anything noteworthy that happens on Night 1.

Day 1 has now ended.

Night 1 begins.

[Top Gun]

:shifty:

[laughin man]

Just to clarify is the first night now for this whole day or is it daytime again?

[Joel]

It will be daytime when I post up the results of night time's happenings.

Will post it at 7pm, as I just got in.

[Billy Minof]

Just to clarify is the first night now for this whole day or is it daytime again?

I think its still night as no one has died yet, it will be daytime either after 24 hours or once Joel has received all his votes from the Mafia.

Can you add the Daytime/Nighttime thingy to the thread title please Joel like you done last game to save alot of confusion?

Anyway, hows the young squire Laughing Man?

[Dale C.]

Can you add the Daytime/Nighttime thingy to the thread title please Joel like you done last game to save alot of confusion?


I was going to ask this but I figured he hadn't got round to it yet.

7pm you say Joel? So we'll soon see who's been deadded off then :ohmy:

[laughin man]

I think its still night as no one has died yet, it will be daytime either after 24 hours or once Joel has received all his votes from the Mafia.

Can you add the Daytime/Nighttime thingy to the thread title please Joel like you done last game to save alot of confusion?

Anyway, hows the young squire Laughing Man?

I'm good Bill, lookin forward to the first lynchin never been to one before :cool:

[Appswah]

i see the mafia are making us wait..

[Dale C.]

Nah it's not the mafia, it's Joel; he must be busy.

[Joel]

Just waiting for BarnDoor :/

[Michu]

Well, whats happened?

[Dale C.]

Joel keeps going offline, his Nigerian internet connection must be playing up again.

Also Barndoor has gone offline again, if he was still waiting for him.

[Joel]

Summary will be up in 15 minutes.

Nice to see the anticipation is building.

[BarnDoor]

It's imminent lads.

[Dale C.]

:ohmy: :orly:

[Michu]

:blind:

[Joel]

Well here it is. A big thank you to Barndoor for bringing quality once again. I'm sure we can agree it is worth the wait.

Night 1 Summary

Three men wait in a black Mercedes. A phone hummed rhythmically on the dash board. The driver answered:

‘Hello? Yes, Don Dundon, we’re outside now. No, no a sign at the moment s...wait...hang on a second, chief; I’ll have to call you back.’

The man in the passenger seat gestured:

‘Is that the cunt?’

‘Yep, that’s him alright’, the driver remarked. The third man in the rear leaned forward and smirked:

‘Why the fuck has he got a dildo in his hand?’

‘Faggots mate. This is a rentboy hotspot. Let’s maul this bastard!’

The three men exited the car. The gent in the rear seat walked to the boot, opened it and removed three sawn-off shotguns, before tossing them to his colleagues. They walked casually across the street, as their prey flaunted himself to the toots of car horns from passing marmite miners. The juvenile deviant didn’t see the three men until he was bending over, spreading his cheeks to passing punters. His head was between his own legs when he saw his demise travelling towards him.

‘Jesus suffering fuck....’

Gun blasts echoed on the dimly-lit streets. The first shot connected with the young man’s rectal passage, which exploded in a myriad of shit and blood. More shots ripped through his body. The degenerate collapsed, screaming in agony. The three men ran towards the victim, unleashing a flurry of boots and raining down fists upon him. He offered sex for mercy but unfortunately for him the hoodlums were professionals, oblivious to such depraved behaviour. Two of them grabbed the man by each arm and held him down to the pavement. Having removed his phone from his pocket, the driver dialled:

‘Boss? We got him. What? Ok, hang on. He wants to speak to you’

The dying man grabbed the phone:

‘Oh god - my anal passage hasn’t hurt this bad since the drunken forays with my father involving his golf club.’

The Don shook with revulsion:

‘Top Gun, you disappoint me. This is one load you won’t be swallowing this side of hell!’

At that point, the driver rammed a shotgun straight up the wretched Top Gun’s bloodied stump of a backside and pulled the trigger, blowing his arse through his rectal cavity. Having done the foul deed, the three men turned from the body in disgust and walked back to their car.

Don Donald of Dundon slammed down the phone and smirked, his laughter echoing throughout his roomy mansion. He stood and smiled to himself, satisfied with the night’s events. Top Gun was a loyal minion, great in bed but was foolish. Always the money, nothing but the money, and it was his downfall. Who knew it was him all along dealing with those fucking kikes? Will the Rothschild family never leave him be? They always wanted something, yet they have everything. They run everything but he would be damned if they were taking his territory without a fight. He walked into his bed chamber, crossed over to his drink counter and poured himself a large and well-deserved cognac. He sipped and closed his eyes, sighing with satisfaction.

As he sat down on his bed he heard a noise behind him, somewhere in the dark. He remained calm and removed a deposit box from under his bed, fumbling with the key before he finally opened it. The Don rose, throwing off his dressing gown, naked save for his lucky pants with the eye of Osiris emblazoned on them, and turned to meet his enemy. In his hand was a perfect, 12-inch dick with a gorgeous purple hew with a strange hammer and sickle tattoo. It was none other than the phallus of Lee Harvey Oswald himself!

‘It’s the fucking New World Order, isn’t it!? Come on you motherfuckers!’

A man stepped forward from the shadows and smiled.

‘You....no, it can’t be! Treacherous piece of shit...!’

The Don didn’t finish his sentence. The man quickly removed a rocket launcher from his trench coat, took aim and fired. Dundon was literally blown in half. His upper torso flew straight through the window, his lower body still standing with his penis proudly erect at a mesmerising yet embarrassing three inches.

The killer made to leave, but strangely picked up the fine shaft of Oswald before disappearing into the shadows.

Night 1 Conlusion:

The Mafia kills Top Gun. Top Gun was a townie and had the reviver role (he was allowed to revive one person).

The Serial Killer kills Dundon's. Dundon's was the Godfather of the mafia.

That ends Night 1.

[Joel]

Day 2 begins now and will end Saturday midnight.

[Michu]

Epic stuff!

[Dale C.]

:lol: Barn :lol: :huh: This story will appear in my nightmares tonight, and i'm pretty sure i'll take the place of Top Gun in it :lol:

Brilliant stuff.

[Michu]

Bit of a shitter losing the reviver role though :(

[Dale C.]

Yeah on the first night as well, didn't really have a chance to get going :/

So there's a serial killer in this game aswell. I keep thinking Joel should have included a list of roles, how many more surprises have we to contend with?

Reviver gone, but also the leader of the mafia, so kudos to the serial killer; helped us out big time :laugh:

What can the godfather do?

[Ali_BWFC]

Top Gun is a strange choice. At least the serial killer got a good scalp.

Are all BarnDoor's write-ups going to be this homo erotic??

[Michu]

Are all BarnDoor's write-ups going to be this homo erotic??

Its old stuff from his unpublished memoirs "The persuance of bugger mud"

[Appswah]

A proper mixed bag after the first night by the looks of it. We lose Top Gun and our chance to revive someone later on but the sereal killer has helped us out majorly by killing Dundons the godfather.

[Phatmann]

Yeah on the first night as well, didn't really have a chance to get going :/

So there's a serial killer in this game aswell. I keep thinking Joel should have included a list of roles, how many more surprises have we to contend with?

Reviver gone, but also the leader of the mafia, so kudos to the serial killer; helped us out big time :laugh:

What can the godfather do?
I believe the godfather doesn't get shown as mafia when investigated by the cop, which is pretty handy for us as it means that the cop won't get caught out now when investigating, unless that Miller role is in play but I doubt it is as it's rather pointless.

[Dale C.]

Hang on, people have just assumed we have a doctor and cop??? I know they're the most basic townie roles, but we might not even have them!

We know that the townies had; a Reviver, and most probably a cop and doctor.

Mafia had; Godfather.

We've sort of agreed that there is around 4-5 mafia members, so that leaves about 1 more mafia special role, 2 at the very most? Whereas us townies still have about 6-7 roles left? Maybe 5?

Would people agree?

[muscularmatt]

Nah it's not the mafia, it's Joel; he must be busy.

Surely the only way you could know that is if you were one of them?!?!

I THINK WE HAVE OUR FIRST LYNCHEE, TOWN!!!

[Phatmann]

Joel mentioned that there is a role which both sides have so seeing as there is no godfather equivalent on the townie side, the other mafia role must be something which both sides are able to have. Any ideas?

[Appswah]

Whats the chances of the Mafia getting a reviver aswell?

and Hunter has been very quiet..

[Dale C.]

Go away Matt, you'll ruin it like I did in the first game :lol: :faceplm:

Phats I just had a look through the roles and the only thing I can find really are a pair of roles called the 'Siblings'.

"The siblings are comprised of one pro-mafia player and one pro-town player (usually a cop). If either of them dies, then the other commits suicide the following night"

This is all I can find really for a role that would be on both sides, but I can't see Joel giving us such a stupid role to play with in the second game?

Unless he just gave the mafia a doctor or something?

[Bammers05]

Top Gun is a strange choice. At least the serial killer got a good scalp.

Are all BarnDoor's write-ups going to be this homo erotic??

I don't think it is, actually. As I mentioned in an earlier post, with us not lynching anyone, the ball was in the mafia's court and if they'd killed someone who'd talked a lot, it would have given us something to latch on to. Top Gun hasn't really done that much talking, either in this mafia wars or the last and, therefore, while there are no real suspicions yet, it makes sense for them to get rid of someone, who hasn't been conspicuous, as it puts the ball back into our court with no real clues and means that we'll probably have to rely on guesswork, if we choose to lynch someone today. They've played it well tbf.

Also, Matt, I can see where you're coming from, but having read the posts back, I think you're clutching at straws a bit there, as Joel makes it clear, before that, that he's already got the results, so I don't think we can accuse Dale, simply based on that.

[Dale C.]

To be fair to the little dingle bastard, I think he was joking.

Bammers what do you think of the roles situation that me and Phats are talking about?

[Phatmann]

Whats the chances of the Mafia getting a reviver aswell?

and Hunter has been very quiet..
I think all the doctor/reviver roles are pro-town; I don't think the mafia have those roles. This is going by that mafia scum thing Joel posted ages ago though so maybe he has created them by himself but I would find it very surprising considering how many roles there are available already to use. Siblings seems a silly role but it is a possibility.

EDIT: Just seen that the mafia can have a doctor although it says they are normally used when there is a vigilante or multiple mafia. Since we have a serial killer, is it really likely that we have a vigilante also?

[Bammers05]

To be fair to the little dingle bastard, I think he was joking.

Bammers what do you think of the roles situation that me and Phats are talking about?

Obviously, I don't know about the roles, but my views are these:

1) We know there was a godfather - Dundons

2) We know there was a reviver on the town side- Top Gun. There may well be an equivalent on the mafia side.

3) We know there's a serial killer

4) I'd imagine there's a cop and a doctor as a)they're the two main sub-roles and b) because Dundons and Billy Minof made such a fuss about them last time

There could well be more than that though.

[Dale C.]

Ahh upon further inspection there appears to be a role that can play both sides, and is fairly obvious/beginner.

The role-blocker.

I think there is a role blocker on either side.

[laughin man]

Haha funny stuff, Top Gun sleepin with the fishing but in retaliation we have killed the mafia boss :cool:

All in all a good night for the town :dancer:

[Hunter]

Whats the chances of the Mafia getting a reviver aswell?

and Hunter has been very quiet..

I've been in uni all day, and also got a piece of work back (marked 68%) so I've been celebrating by drinking vodka tonight. I was hoping to go to The Cut since it's Dubstep and Hip Hop but everyone else is broke/homos and have opted for ket instead. Thus me now being back on at 00:45, somewhat drunk like a Russian and about to soon sleep on a small 2-seater sofa for the second night in a row. Jealous? :lol:

As for Dundon's going, what a result, it really could not have been any sweeter. The only problematic role for us, completely eliminated, thank you serial killer. Man, we should be able to crack this game now, if we don't then we seriously need to be ashamed of ourselves.

[muscularmatt]

Celebrating a 68%? In my day if I got less than 98% I'd give myself 50 lashes!

[Hunter]

Celebrating a 68%? In my day if I got less than 98% I'd give myself 50 lashes!

:lol:

If anyone thesedays achieved 98% their work would probably go down as a brilliant piece of scholary work. It's quite strange how percentage targets change between school/college and uni isn't it. Anything below 65% in school/college is pretty poor, but anything above 60% in uni is very good, and above 70% is brilliant.

[Ali_BWFC]

:lol:

If anyone thesedays achieved 98% their work would probably go down as a brilliant piece of scholary work. It's quite strange how percentage targets change between school/college and uni isn't it. Anything below 65% in school/college is pretty poor, but anything above 60% in uni is very good, and above 70% is brilliant.

I second that. In my first year of uni, I was getting above 70 for most of my exams.... it went drastically down hill after that :(

Anyway, does anybody have any suspicions yet? I have a couple.

[Dale C.]

Share with the group then Ali, I also have two people that I think possibly may be mafia. Not for very good reasons, but i'll share if you do.

[Ali_BWFC]

Share with the group then Ali, I also have two people that I think possibly may be mafia. Not for very good reasons, but i'll share if you do.

My first is Bammers. Hard to tell with him, but it seems like he is doing the same "faux-helping" he was doing when he was mafia last time. My second one is matt. This is just a small incling though.

[Dale C.]

Would Bammers take the same approach twice in a row though? He played a blinder last time, so he might well be using the same approach, but i'm not sure. I don't think he'd be so stupid as to try the same thing twice.

Yeah Matt, as much as he jokes, seems too eager for a lynching :/

My two were Minof and Phatmann(:lol:) I have reason so bear with me.

Phatmann because I noticed that someone said 'Phatmann hasn't posted a lot...' and then a few posts later, he posted. Although the same could be said about Hunter. Not a great reason I know, but there you go.

This is where it gets interesting.

Minof because he said this to Bishop;

which is what I thought until Dundons called in today to find out what roll I got.........

Now read into that what you will, but it seems to me as though Minof and Dundon's have talked about this outside the game, which would suggest they are both mafia.

There's my suspicions.

[Ali_BWFC]

Those are actually some pretty good reasons. I'll need to ponder them.

[Bish]

@ Dale I too noticed that about Phats mate. The fact he posted straight away after I made that post means he's obviously been following what's going on. Again, HH hasn't been involved, for whatever reason. I think we may need to push through with a lynch today, we got lucky with the serial killer.

Just read up on last night's killings. All I can say is I hope one day Barn's vision of violence and gore hits the big screen one day.

[Bammers05]

I can understand your suspicions of me - tbh I was expecting to be the first to be either lynched or killed by the mafia, after doing so well last game. All I can say really is that I am a townie and, as you can see, I'm trying to help look at things logically and find out who the mafia are.

And that leads me on to my next point: I agree with Bish that we should try and lynch someone today. I would suggest, if we don't have any definite suspicions by the end of the day then we lunch one of the quieter ones, because then a) if we're right, obviously we've lynched a mafia member, which is good, and b) if we're wrong, then we won't have lost someone who's contributing and trying to help, so it's a win-win situation in my opinion. As I said though, we should only do this if we get to the end of the day and have no idea who to lynch.

[chelsea11]

I agree on Minof there Dale, but then again Joel picked everybody's roles so them knowing each other outside and talking about it might be irrelevant? It's still a bit early to call on that one, we need him to post a bit more to see..

A lynching is a must though. We need to get rid of people not contributing anything, otherwise the mafia will just do it for us giving us no leads or inclinations to go on.

What time is the voting closed at tonight? Hopefully after 11 as I'm off now in a couple of minutes for work and won't be home until around then.

[Dale C.]

Yeah I agree with that Bammers.



A lynching is a must though. We need to get rid of people not contributing anything, otherwise the mafia will just do it for us giving us no leads or inclinations to go on.

Yeah this is bang on, we need the mafia to give us something to think about, and not just killing off random outcasts who aren't taking part.

[muscularmatt]

If anyone thesedays achieved 98% their work would probably go down as a brilliant piece of scholary work. It's quite strange how percentage targets change between school/college and uni isn't it. Anything below 65% in school/college is pretty poor, but anything above 60% in uni is very good, and above 70% is brilliant.

It's good that they are trying to make the distinction between the moderately talented, who could easily get 90% at secondary level, and the really really gifted students. It's a shame they don't do it lower down the system.

Hey, screw you guys, I'm totally legit. I'm not as bloodythirsty as I was last time, I'll just point out that the longer we leave it, the more it plays into their hands. I'm not sure what your agenda is Bammers. You were as obvious as a puppy sitting next to a pile of shite last time, but are you trying to be more subtle? We'll see.

[Bammers05]

Hey, screw you guys, I'm totally legit. I'm not as bloodythirsty as I was last time, I'll just point out that the longer we leave it, the more it plays into their hands. I'm not sure what your agenda is Bammers. You were as obvious as a puppy sitting next to a pile of shite last time, but are you trying to be more subtle? We'll see.

Yeh, you're right. You could see how obvious it was that I was in the mafia last time by the multitude of people who were suspicious of me and wanted me lynched...

[muscularmatt]

You may have fooled the masses, tinribs but I was onto yer!

[Bammers05]

If you were 'onto me', it begs the question as to why you didn't say anything. Indeed, if you did actually think I was in the mafia, and you didn't say anything, surely you're just as bad as those actually in the mafia?

[Ali_BWFC]

Sminky has been quiet (unusual for him).... or is that quietly plotting to lynch all us townies? :hmm:

[Bammers05]

Tbf he was quite quiet at the start of the last game too, but I agree that it is unusual for him.

[Dale C.]

Sminky has been quiet (unusual for him).... or is that quietly plotting to lynch all us townies? :hmm:

I was literally just thinking this!

I wonder if it's because of this fantasy league is keeping him busy :hmm:

[Ali_BWFC]

I was literally just thinking this!

I wonder if it's because of this fantasy league is keeping him busy :hmm:

Do you mean "plugging his fantasy league"? :laugh:

[laughin man]

I agree on Minof there Dale, but then again Joel picked everybody's roles so them knowing each other outside and talking about it might be irrelevant? It's still a bit early to call on that one, we need him to post a bit more to see..

A lynching is a must though. We need to get rid of people not contributing anything, otherwise the mafia will just do it for us giving us no leads or inclinations to go on.

What time is the voting closed at tonight? Hopefully after 11 as I'm off now in a couple of minutes for work and won't be home until around then.

Is this Chelsea's first post in here... if so he kept his head down until people were actually up for a lynching, surfacing only when he can do damage... my spider senses are tingling lads :ninja:

[Michu]

I was literally just thinking this!

I wonder if it's because of this fantasy league is keeping him busy :hmm:

Yes :laugh:

Do you mean "plugging his fantasy league"? :laugh:

A most DEFINITE yes :tongue:

Also, don't forget chaps, I had my wisdom tooth out on Monday and I've been in a bastard amount of pain.

I've had a quick read through and it still looks like we're a completely disorganised rabble. I don't want it to go the way of the last game where being lynched was actually a bloody relief. We need to organise ourselves.

[Bish]

I had my wisdom teeth taken out years ago and recovered a lot quicker. Interesting. Is he looking for sympathy or is he just a bit of a soft poofter?

[Michu]

I had my wisdom teeth taken out years ago and recovered a lot quicker. Interesting. Is he looking for sympathy or is he just a bit of a soft poofter?

I've got an infection in the gum though so trump that ... but a soft poofter seems a fair enough appraisal :laugh:

[Top Gun]

ffs

[Hunter]

We should all be ashamed of ourselves. We haven't even given our beloved fellow townie a send off. Get those lighters up people.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/341815103_570082a7e8.jpg?v=0

Rest in peace, Top Gun.

[BarnDoor]

He died as he lived.

[Billy Minof]

lol @ Dundons, excellent work. :laugh:

Unfortunate to see Top Gun go but an eye for a eye is how this town works and sooner rather than later we will flush out the rest of the rats.

[Bish]

I think we're gonna need to start voting soon if we want someone out tonight. I have a few suspicions but HH might be the one most worth the risk.

[laughin man]

lol @ Dundons, excellent work. :laugh:

Unfortunate to see Top Gun go but an eye for a eye is how this town works and sooner rather than later we will flush out the rest of the rats.

He's devastated, went as far as to say he believes it was an inside job couldnt get no more outta him :laugh:

[Billy Minof]

Ok, seems I have become a target for some town members because of my inactivity, I can see where why the suspicions have arrisen with me not voting for Dundons but my reasons are that I wasnt online.
If I die I die, the Serial Killer will live on and the Town will be down a valuable member aswell as lots of lol'd from the Mafia.

[Phatmann]

The post I made after Bishop said that was purely coincidence. When I was typing it out, Bishop hadn't made a post and the reason I hadn't posted earlier was because I am at work during the week and don't get online 'til about 7:30-8:00 ish. I would've cleared that up earlier but I really didn't see it as an issue as I'm almost never online during the day during the week.

[Appswah]

Ok, seems I have become a target for some town members because of my inactivity, I can see where why the suspicions have arrisen with me not voting for Dundons but my reasons are that I wasnt online.
If I die I die, the Serial Killer will live on and the Town will be down a valuable member aswell as lots of lol'd from the Mafia.


You say you were not online but by looking at your recent posts you can see that you were clearly online on 2/2/11 a.k.a first day of voting. You made 6 posts between 8.30pm and 11.30pm giving you plenty of time to get your vote in, and time to try to persuade myself and other townies why he should be lynched.

And as to hunters reply in the voting thread..Another mafia member eyyy.. ;)

[Michu]

Lets use our heads here then gents, last time the Mafia sought to play us off against each other. Rather than jump in two footed, shouldn't we debate before voting?

[Hunter]

You say you were not online but by looking at your recent posts you can see that you were clearly online on 2/2/11 a.k.a first day of voting. You made 6 posts between 8.30pm and 11.30pm giving you plenty of time to get your vote in, and time to try to persuade myself and other townies why he should be lynched.

And as to hunters reply in the voting thread..Another mafia member eyyy.. ;)

:faceplm:

Just trying not to jump to conclusions, since, y'know, it didn't quite work so well last time.

[Appswah]

well ive put forward my opinion in to the mix and ive voted as i believe we need to act and not just sit here doing nothing whilst mafia members/ Serial killers pick us off. If you guys dont agree tell my why you disagree and get a debate going.


:faceplm:

Just trying not to jump to conclusions, since, y'know, it didn't quite work so well last time.


lol i know but i feel we need to get the debate going alot more than it has. Do you have any suspicions? If so who/why?

[Michu]

First off, has everyone who is taking part in this actually posted yet?

[Billy Minof]

You say you were not online but by looking at your recent posts you can see that you were clearly online on 2/2/11 a.k.a first day of voting. You made 6 posts between 8.30pm and 11.30pm giving you plenty of time to get your vote in, and time to try to persuade myself and other townies why he should be lynched.

And as to hunters reply in the voting thread..Another mafia member eyyy.. ;)


The first day of voting we didnt lynch anyone, the second day of voting I wasnt online, I was online the other night to reply to LaughinMans post but that was during the Mafia hours not the towns hours and you cannot vote until its day time, firstly I didnt even know he(dundons was dead until today after work and secondly I didnt know he was the Godfather.

Anyway, onword and upword, you will be a lone ranger on this one as the rest of the Townies trust me and with good reason......anyway, I know that I am a townie, how do I/we know that you are???? and then why choose me with no proof even after your little investigation into my activity and my response yet you still choose to accuse me given you have not a leg to stand on in regards your accusations towards me???? an easy target for the Mafia maybe???? questions that need answering.

As for Hunters response in the other thread, you are damn right.....if your neighbor is gone for the day and someone dies on your street the neighbour with no knowledge of the event or what unfolded isnt branded the criminal.

[Hunter]

well ive put forward my opinion in to the mix and ive voted as i believe we need to act and not just sit here doing nothing whilst mafia members/ Serial killers pick us off. If you guys dont agree tell my why you disagree and get a debate going.


lol i know but i feel we need to get the debate going alot more than it has. Do you have any suspicions? If so who/why?

I'd agree or disagree, but I've very little if nothing to go off so it's hard to build suspicion. As with regards to what Minof said, if he did indeed say that then that is somewhat suspect, is there a print screen of it, or is it in this thread? We need evidence and whatnot, as it's useless pointing fingers based off of he said she said. I just think we're clutching again, and doing so at the start of the game this time.

[Billy Minof]

You say you were not online but by looking at your recent posts you can see that you were clearly online on 2/2/11 a.k.a first day of voting. You made 6 posts between 8.30pm and 11.30pm giving you plenty of time to get your vote in, and time to try to persuade myself and other townies why he should be lynched.

And as to hunters reply in the voting thread..Another mafia member eyyy.. ;)

I'd agree or disagree, but I've very little if nothing to go off so it's hard to build suspicion. As with regards to what Minof said, if he did indeed say that then that is somewhat suspect, is there a print screen of it, or is it in this thread?

If I did say what? I didnt say anything, I wasnt even online when we could vote. :laugh:

[Hunter]

If I did say what? I didnt say anything, I wasnt even online when we could vote. :laugh:

Exactly, I don't know what's going on, and as I mention, "he say she say". I really don't know what is happening in terms of strategy. I'm more content sitting back for this day 2 if I'm being honest as I fucked up so big last time, I don't want to seemingly force my theories onto people - also helped by the fact I have none thus far. But like Sminky said, it's probably best if we all come to a consensus before we make our votes tonight. This way it'll be a community decision, and we'll all make our votes at roughly the same time, displaying an appearance of strength together. Starting from the off with a strong community vote and tactic would be a huge advantage I think, even if we make the mistake of lynching a townie in the end, because from that point we can then develop theories more adequately as we know from the past (we just got it the opposite way around previously). :lol:

[Appswah]

Day 1 of voting was 2/2/11 and as i stated you posted 6 times between the 8.30pm and 11.30pm giving you enough time to vote. The second day of voting is today.

Heres the quote that makes me suspicious (he even posted it on day one of voting which he 'wasn't online for':


Maybe they are under the impression that its starting tonight which is what I thought until Dundons called in today to find out what roll I got.........then again I could be wrong and you right. :ninja:

He's obviously been discussing his role with Dundons who turned out to be tje Godfather.. If he was a townie why didnt Dundons 'off' Billy knowing he knew his role.

Edit: I am a Townie, I felt i sat back too much in the last game and i feel i should play a more important role in this game. If you dont agree with me then all i can say is i've tried.

[Michu]

It seems pretty hard to realistically come to a consensus when half the players haven't posted much or anything at all. I say we wait a couple of hours to give other members a chance to comment before reaching a decision.

[Hunter]

It seems pretty hard to realistically come to a consensus when half the players haven't posted much or anything at all. I say we wait a couple of hours to give other members a chance to comment before reaching a decision.

I think this is a very reasonable suggestion, maybe not a couple of hours as we don't want to cut it too finely and end up rushing in a vote. Maybe an hour or so I'd say. I think we just have to almost accept that it's going to be hugely difficult in the beginning and in order to progress positively, we're probably going to have to walk through a few dog shits first.

[Appswah]

Im just trying to forge an opening into who are the Mafia. Im happy to wait and see others opinions. Just dont leave it too late and waste another night by not voting.

[Michu]

So, shall we reconvene at around 10pm and make a community decision?

[Billy Minof]

He's obviously been discussing his role with Dundons who turned out to be tje Godfather.. If he was a townie why didnt Dundons 'off' Billy knowing he knew his role..

Yeah, he called and asked me what role I got and I told him that I didnt know yet because I thought it was starting that on the Wed at Midnight.
He(Dundons) said that he was a townie, I checked mine after he left my house and before he left I said to him that I would tell him I was a townie regardless of what role I had. I dont carry have meeting with Dundons out in my shed plotting the downfall of the towns people and the town.

Enough said on the matter from me, you are entitled to your opinion and your theories and I respect them even though they are incorrect. :cool:

[Dale C.]

Minof, chill, theres only one person accusing you. Why are you acting like it's the end of the game for you? :hmm:


Also Appswah, fair enough getting your opinion out in the air, but calling for a lynch on your own will make you look bad.

I'm just going to check the voting thread now (just got back from the cinema into this thread) so i'll have a look if anyones voted, and then see whattagwarn.

[laughin man]

Right lads i'm off shortly gotta make a decision soon cause i'l be gone for the night?

[Appswah]

im not calling for a lynch. Ive stated my reasons for my vote and ive shared them with everyone else and explaining/defending why ive said what ive said.

If im correct..great :) If not then its better sitting back and doing fuck all like we all did last time.

[Dale C.]

Yeah I think i'm inclined to agree with Appswah, since he used my reasoning in the first place :laugh:

I think it was a genuine slip up by Minof, and as of yet, no-one has really gave me a reason to suspect them.

I think i'll be voting Minof, unless someone can change my mind??

[laughin man]

Well i'm not convinced at all.. I'd be doing it for sport if I was to do it now which is wrong, I'll be leavin my Irish brother alone until further evidence present's itself, talk tye later lads ;)

[Bammers05]

I'd like to say that I find it odd that Appswah was so quiet last game and yet, now, he seems so keen to talk, and accuse.

[Appswah]

Edit: Double Post. My internet is being a douche.

[Appswah]

well ive changed my tactics from the last game. They obviously failed last time as we lost.

If i was a mafia would i be making such a fuss and giving myself alot of attention? I want the townies to win, i want us to be able to find all the mafia members hidden within us and if i have risk my safety as a townie to find members of the mafia then so be it.

I think in the night i will be the one to get killed. This is either because I was correct and Billy and his crew want to shut me up or i was horrendously wrong and the mafia are trying to stick Billy up.

I truely believe that Billy let slip about talking with Dundons and now he's trying to make up lies about not being able to get on and vote even though he posted 6 times in the space of 3 hours.

[Ali_BWFC]

I'd like to say that I find it odd that Appswah was so quiet last game and yet, now, he seems so keen to talk, and accuse.

This is also very suspicious.

Either way, it's getting late now, and a decision should be made. Billy's name has come up a few times so far, and he already has one vote from a rather eager Appswah.

[Dale C.]

A rather eager Appswah who has taken my point way out of context.

I was only letting people know of my suspicions, I wasn't ready to lynch anyone yet :crymore:

[Hunter]

Indeed. A decision needs to be made really, we can't rely on the serial killer, or the cop (if there is one in this game, I assume so right?) to investigate. We've already laid out somewhat of a vague gameplan (community decision, then vote, day 2). It'd be wise for us to maintain a strategy I think otherwise we really will be at a loss when it comes to day 3 as we'll have developed no patterns from people's opinions on others and voting also.

[Dale C.]

Thing is theres no many people online now anyway, so I doubt we'd even get the required amount of votes :faceplm:

I think Appswah has made me want to vote for him because he's so eager to get Minof lynched :huh:

[Hunter]

There's enough people online now if we came together for a community vote, not to mention I imagine a couple more will drop in within the next hour. So it's definitely possible that we can achieve a day 2 lynching, we just need to come to an agreement on who it is. We all know there's no real dirt, no real foundation for suspicion, but I think in order to advance and begin the process of elimination in strategising, I think it's best if we try and go for the lynching.

[Appswah]

Well I'm sticking with my vote. I'm hoping the cop knows who to investigate tonight ;)

I wasn't trying to come across as eager, I just wanted to explain why I've voted the way I have and that I do have reasoning for doing so.

Townie4life. :D

I'd rather people made up there own minds though and not just follow me blindly.

[Dale C.]

So who do you think Hunter? Who is holding your main suspicion?

My 2 possible votes;

Minof; For saying what he said earlier, about collaborating with Dundon's (:lol:)

And Appswah; For being so eager to see Minof lynched, using mainly my point of when I saw Minof post that.

Like I said, I was just letting people know my suspicions, I wasn't jumping the gun like Appswah has done.

I've put the Phatmann posting when Bishop said 'Phats hasn't posted yet' to the back of my head really. I don't believe it was coincidental, but I think there are bigger suspicions that we need to act upon.

[Appswah]

Dale, Do you really think I'd be stupid enough to make my self stand out soo much if I was Mafia?

My Role as a Townie would be a big loss as I may seem eager but I WILL find a Mafia member before I'm killed off. Im not going to sit on the sidelines and do fuck all like I did in the other game.

[Ali_BWFC]

Appswah - you could be doing it to throw us off!!

Anyway... we can't have some voting for Phatmann, some voting for Apps, some for Billy etc etc. It doesn't get us anywhere. Need to come to a unanimous decision.

[Dale C.]

Yeah, and as Appswah has already voted, and Minof was my other suspicion, I think i'll be voting for Minof aswell to be honest.

[Ali_BWFC]

I'm happy to follow. Dale, I think you need a win to be honest. If the lynched person turns out to be mafia this time, you may be forgiven for last round's shenanigans.

[Bammers05]

Hmmm. I'm inclined to believe Appswah - for now at least. I mentioned earlier that if we don't have any conclusive evidence towards someone by the end of the day, then perhaps we should lynch someone who hasn't really participated in the conversation. These are the posters so far:

Dale C. 29
Sminky 15
Ali_BWFC 15
Joel 14
Hunter 14
Appswah 13
laughin man 12
Bammers05 12
Billy Minof 11
muscularmatt 7
Dundon's 6
Phatmann 6
TheBishop 5
chelsea11 3
Top Gun 3
Papa 3
BarnDoor 2

And HH hasn't yet posted in here.

So, perhaps, one of the lower posters - disregarding, of course, the likes of Top Gun, who are already dead, and the likes of Barndoor, who aren't playing the game.

Having said that, if there's a unanimous decision on Billy Minof, I'm happy to go with that, as I feel we need to lynch someone tonight.

[Dale C.]

So it's either HH, Minof, or Appswah?

I think i'm going to vote Minof.

EDIT: Argh Bammers has threw me now, I don't know whether to vote HH and get him out of the game!

[Hunter]

Yeah, I'm happy to go with Minof and see how it goes, or alternatively HH since he seems to be too busy at the moment.

[Ali_BWFC]

Hmmm. I'm inclined to believe Appswah - for now at least. I mentioned earlier that if we don't have any conclusive evidence towards someone by the end of the day, then perhaps we should lynch someone who hasn't really participated in the conversation. These are the posters so far:



And HH hasn't yet posted in here.

So, perhaps, one of the lower posters - disregarding, of course, the likes of Top Gun, who are already dead, and the likes of Barndoor, who aren't playing the game.

Having said that, if there's a unanimous decision on Billy Minof, I'm happy to go with that, as I feel we need to lynch someone tonight.

Did you actually count? Or is there somewhere that shows you all that?

[Appswah]

If we get a group vote to vote for HH for lack of activity I'm willing to switch votes as I truley believe we need to make a lynchin'. But my main suspect will still be Minof.

[Bammers05]

I would prefer to go with HH, for the reasons that I stated earlier:

I would suggest, if we don't have any definite suspicions by the end of the day then we lunch one of the quieter ones, because then a) if we're right, obviously we've lynched a mafia member, which is good, and b) if we're wrong, then we won't have lost someone who's contributing and trying to help, so it's a win-win situation in my opinion.

And Ali, a good magician never reveals his secrets :ninja:

[Dale C.]

I'm going to vote for HH, because I don't think its fair that he's busy and can't play the game.

Fuck it.

[chelsea11]

Well I'm back from work and it seems its the same as before I left, everybody saying the same stuff over and over again in different ways and we're still no closer to coming to a decision.

I think Matt became a little more 'active' after we mentioned targeting someone who wasn't posting as much. That's no reason for a lynch obviously though.

I think it's lingering between Appswah and Minof, which could be a nice little set up from the mafia. Pitting two of us against each other, but on the other hand it could be that one of them is mafia.

Anybody consider that the mafia could have one of their own take one for the team, so to speak, so it looks like a couple of them are innocent for voting for that person? Just a thought.. a paranoid thought! :lol:

[Phatmann]

I'm not sure about the logic behind lynching Minof but at the same time there doesn't seem to be many other well thought out theories other than what was suggested by Bammers. However, would it be right to all proceed like sheep like in the last game and lynch someone based on very weak logic just for the sake of lynching? One thing that makes me think a lynching is needed is the lack of a lynching on Day 1. Could we really risk having 2 days without lynching someone? I'm really in two minds about this.

[Appswah]

Ok I've changed my vote as we need to work as a team. Whether we get enough people to vote for the lynch is another matter.

[Bammers05]

How many votes are needed for a lynching?

[Ali_BWFC]

I would prefer to go with HH, for the reasons that I stated earlier:



And Ali, a good magician never reveals his secrets :ninja:

Did you just do a thread search and type the username... then count their posts??

Well I'm back from work and it seems its the same as before I left, everybody saying the same stuff over and over again in different ways and we're still no closer to coming to a decision.

I think Matt became a little more 'active' after we mentioned targeting someone who wasn't posting as much. That's no reason for a lynch obviously though.

I think it's lingering between Appswah and Minof, which could be a nice little set up from the mafia. Pitting two of us against each other, but on the other hand it could be that one of them is mafia.

Anybody consider that the mafia could have one of their own take one for the team, so to speak, so it looks like a couple of them are innocent for voting for that person? Just a thought.. a paranoid thought! :lol:

ANY one of us could be mafia. Even the most supposedly helpful posters could be trying to sabotage us from the inside.

EDIT: "Taking one for the team" is a bit risky.

[Phatmann]

Ali, click on the number of replies which is shown next to the thread in the Mafia Games forum. That will show you how many times a user has posted in that thread.

[Dale C.]

Ok I've changed my vote as we need to work as a team. Whether we get enough people to vote for the lynch is another matter.

Well played man, this is the team ethos that we need to employ.

Good man.

[Hunter]

We need 8 votes for the lynching right? Which means just 4 more.

[chelsea11]

Wait so why are we voting for HH then?

[Appswah]

He hasn't posted in this thread at all.

[chelsea11]

Okay, seems reasonable enough.

[Ali_BWFC]

HH is Johnny Tightlips! "I ain't saying nothin'"

(Simpsons reference)

[Bammers05]

Chelsea11, we feel we need to make a lynching today, but we have no conclusive evidence to expect anyone in particular.

However, HH hasn't yet posted in this thread, so we feel that if we're to lynch him then a) he'll be in the mafia or b) he'll be a townie, but he's not contributing to the discussion anyway, so no real harm done.

[Joel]

18 mins left. 2 more votes needed for HH.

[Phatmann]

It would be a shame if he had a decent role for the town but if he isn't participating then it's completely wasted on him. If he wasn't gonna get involved, he shouldn't have put his name forward.

[Dale C.]

However, HH hasn't yet posted in this thread, so we feel that if we're to lynch him then a) he'll be in the mafia or b) he'll be a townie, but he's not contributing to the discussion anyway, so no real harm done.

It would be a shame if he had a decent role for the town but if he isn't participating then it's completely wasted on him. If he wasn't gonna get involved, he shouldn't have put his name forward.

Bang on lads.

[Ali_BWFC]

Who's left to vote now?

[Top Gun]

I hope you all burn in hell :shifty:

[Bammers05]

Quite a few. Papa's the only one currently online though, but he doesn't seem to be in any rush to vote...or indeed participate in discussion.

[Ali_BWFC]

Where the hell is Sminky? I'm sure I saw him online earlier..... :hmm:

[Hunter]

Just one vote. If it's worth anything, our efficiency in terms of coming up with a simple plan and putting it into effect has worked very well. Heads up guys.

[Bammers05]

Bish is online too now

[Ali_BWFC]

Maybe Papa is mafia, and he's not voting because HH is mafia too, and he doesn't want to lynch one of his own.

[Dale C.]

Ladies, it would seem we have a lynch!

EDIT: I remember laughin man said he was looking forward to his first lynch, and now he's missed it :laugh:

[Bammers05]

If HH is mafia, then I reckon Papa is too. If not, then it's back to the drawing board.

[Bish]

I was thinking of voting HH anyway. There isn't much risk involved.

[Ali_BWFC]

I was thinking of voting HH anyway. There isn't much risk involved.

Is that because you KNOW he is a townie?

[Hunter]

For old times sake:

http://openparachute.files.wordpress. com/2010/01/internetlynchmob.jpg

[Appswah]

HH - Hanging High :)

[Joel]

Day 2 Summary

The day started with two deaths in the town. It was mixed results for the town as Dundon's - the head of the mafia - had fallen, but they also lost Top Gun the reviver.

After not lynching anyone on Day 1, the twon decided they needed to co-operate and come up with a name on Day 2.

Billy Minof seemed to be the target at first and then it briefly switched to Appswah, but at the closing stages of the day, the town decided to lynch HH.

The reason for lynching HH was the fact that he did not get involved in the community and the town believed whether he turned out as townie or mafia, it was no real loss. HH walked to the rope, just as he walked into the town - in complete silence.

Day 2 Conclusion: The town vote to lynch HH.

HH was a townie. He had one of the two mason roles.

That ends Day 2.

[Dale C.]

:laugh: The guy in the bottom right has my new haircut :lol:

Sort of.

EDIT: Well I bet the other Mason was screwing :\ A useless role for him aswell.

[Joel]

Night 2 starts now.

[Ali_BWFC]

Balls.

What does the mason do again?

[Papa]

Apparently I've missed a lynch. I like the logic in voting for HH. We seem to be approaching this round in a more intelligent way, whether he turns out to be mafia or not.

EDIT: Oops.

[Dale C.]

Balls.

What does the mason do again?

I think Mason's can discuss the game outside of this thread. So they can talk about whether they think someone is mafia or whatever.

A joint mind, if you will.

[Joel]

Balls.

What does the mason do again?

Masons are a group of townies who know each other are townies and are allowed to communicate with each other at night,

[Hunter]

Apparently I've missed a lynch. I like the logic in voting for HH. We seem to be approaching this round in a more intelligent way, whether he turns out to be mafia or not.

Indeed. We're already a much stronger community than we ever achieved in The Great Mafia Wars I. Feel the love guys.

[Bish]

Not a great loss to be fair.

[Dale C.]

Group hug guys!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Kjo4KH639lg/TGRtbnUb8sI/AAAAAAAABks/gLVUv3VMcHM/s400/group_hug.jpg

[Appswah]

Not a massive loss tbh, could of lost the cop or something alot more important!

[Ali_BWFC]

So I'm guessing the other mason was a very lonely man then?

Step forth good brother! Let us ease your suffering! Suffer in silence no more!

[chelsea11]

It's not a massive loss but thinking about it, he was a Townie in the end and we don't want too many sacrifices especially when its us doing it as well as the mafia. We'll just have to wait until the morning now to see what's next.

[Bish]

That might be a good idea actually, that's if you're allowed to say your role.

[chelsea11]

Don't think we're allowed to actually state our roles. Or is it we're just not allowed to show the PM as proof?

[Bammers05]

:faceplm:

Obviously disappointing to lose a townie, but, as he wasn't involved in the discussions at all, it's no great loss. It, also, means that the mafia will have to think a bit harder about who to kill, as they could've just gone with HH tonight and it would've left us none the wiser.

Tbh, although we lynched the wrong person, it is pleasing to see that we made our decision based on logic and as a group. Whoever dies tonight, I feel we need to keep this community spirit going. There may well be mafia members among us, but if we can keep a decent-sized group of people discussing these things, then surely we, the townies, will be able to make some good progress.

Also, this lynching begs the question: who's the other mason? I reckon it can't be anyone, who was on tonight, as surely they would have leapt to HHs defence? Or, at least, said something? Therefore, I think that the other mason must be one of the following:

Sminky
Matt
Billy Minof
Laughing Man

[chelsea11]

Cross Papa off that list as he came in at the end.

[Bammers05]

I'll replace him with Laughing Man, who I, somehow, managed to miss first time round :faceplm:

[HH]

Oh what happened?

Oh okay. Fuck you all then. If I wasn't out getting high...

[Michu]

:faceplm: Mason or not we lost another Townie!

[Billy Minof]

:faceplm:

Obviously disappointing to lose a townie, but, as he wasn't involved in the discussions at all, it's no great loss. It, also, means that the mafia will have to think a bit harder about who to kill, as they could've just gone with HH tonight and it would've left us none the wiser.

Tbh, although we lynched the wrong person, it is pleasing to see that we made our decision based on logic and as a group. Whoever dies tonight, I feel we need to keep this community spirit going. There may well be mafia members among us, but if we can keep a decent-sized group of people discussing these things, then surely we, the townies, will be able to make some good progress.

Also, this lynching begs the question: who's the other mason? I reckon it can't be anyone, who was on tonight, as surely they would have leapt to HHs defence? Or, at least, said something? Therefore, I think that the other mason must be one of the following:

Sminky
Matt
Billy Minof
Laughing Man

If you conclude that the other mason must be one of the above then you must conclude that at least one of the above must be innocent.

I still havent come to any decisive conclusions on who is definate Mafia, hopefully the Cop can find out behind the scenes and leave us some clues.

We have lost 2 good men but the Mafia have lost there leader and may not be able to function as they would like to, hopefully they are now torn apart and fighting for power amounst themselves and fail to make a hit on any of the town tonight, just watch your backs, there is a serial killer also on the loose. :ohmy:

:faceplm: Mason or not we lost another Townie!

Agreed. Although not active thus far he could have helped out in the long run and when needed.

[Dale C.]

Well, the cop isn't dead yet and should have investigated 2 people thus far.

Our problem will come when deciding whether what the 'cop' says is true or not. The mafia could easily fake being a cop! Going to be a very difficult decision to make when this happens.

Also, yeah it's still another townie, even though he didn't post much so it's not the biggest loss, still a loss all the same.

R.I.P HH, you hermit :lol:

[Billy Minof]

Well, the cop isn't dead yet and should have investigated 2 people thus far.

Our problem will come when deciding whether what the 'cop' says is true or not. The mafia could easily fake being a cop! Going to be a very difficult decision to make when this happens.

Also, yeah it's still another townie, even though he didn't post much so it's not the biggest loss, still a loss all the same.

R.I.P HH, you hermit :lol:

Rumour has it that he was watching the Robocop trilogy the last few nights and thats the real reason that the Mafia took him out. :laugh:

[Hunter]

Oh what happened?

Oh okay. Fuck you all then. If I wasn't out getting high...

Your high lasted 3 days? God damn, I want some of that green. What was is called? :lol:

Should have seen me trying to walk up the stairs in my friend's place the other week, I was laughing at myself it was so retarded. It probably looked as though I was trying to maneuver a space hopper upstairs. :lol:

Anyway, unlucky brother but that's the name of the game I'm afraid.

On another note, I'll change the title so it says night time now. So when does the cop investigate a member, during the night or day?

This one's for you HH:

http://media.mtvne.com/manual/intl/warner/2009/USATV0400494_640x480_01.jpg

Rest in peace.

Man I love that song. "If you don't know, my town is the truth...weclome to Brooklyn"

[Appswah]

Cop investigates during the night. Hopefully the cop can get some decent info tonight!


*1000 post woo :wave:*


R.I.P HH

LOL..

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4385074786_025e4e0a06.jpg

[Hunter]

:laugh: :laugh:

Fucking brilliant.

Have some rep brother.

[laughin man]

Bad move lads, I'm personally gonna seek retribution for this hanging.. I understand the logic behind killing him and some could say it's his own fault for not getting involved in the discussion but at the end of the day ye have killed a townie

I'm gonna take the good from it and use the logic that the mafia were involved in this vote knowing a townies neck was on the line. More than likely they would have been in the mid to late votes

Dale started it
Bammers got in
Apps changed his vote, always a suspicious move
Hunter followed the pack
Chelsea
Ali
Phattman
Bishop for the kill

[Michu]

To be fair though bud not everyone has really taken part yet making it difficult for the game to be played properly.

[laughin man]

To be fair though bud not everyone has really taken part yet making it difficult for the game to be played properly.

Like I said I understand why he was killed...

I went about looking at the forum that plays this game looking for tactics and noticed that they asked each other questions fairly regularly so that's what i'd like to do now. Perhaps we could have a type of court case and each person that voted has to explain why they killed an innocent man

[Dale C.]

Dale started it
Bammers got in
Apps changed his vote, always a suspicious move
Hunter followed the pack
Chelsea
Ali
Phattman
Bishop for the kill

Saying I started it is Bollocks, I think you'll find it's Appswah that started it. I only provided the reasoning for him to do so, and as I clearly stated, it was purely theory and I was just letting everyone know what I was thinking.

[Hunter]

I think it'd be incredibly harsh, even unfair to pin anyone down for the voting toward HH if I'm honest. I do however absolutely love the idea of posing questions every so often to one another in a Community Court.

http://www.bclawwatch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/community_court1.jpg

[laughin man]

Saying I started it is Bollocks, I think you'll find it's Appswah that started it. I only provided the reasoning for him to do so, and as I clearly stated, it was purely theory and I was just letting everyone know what I was thinking.

http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/judge.jpg

Like I said it would more than likely be the mid to late voters

[Joel]

Ok, so last night's results are in.

I don't really have time to write a summary and I don't want to keep bothering BarnDoor, so I will post it around 7ish.

Day 3 will start after that.

[Bammers05]

Saying I started it is Bollocks, I think you'll find it's Appswah that started it. I only provided the reasoning for him to do so, and as I clearly stated, it was purely theory and I was just letting everyone know what I was thinking.

I 'started' it:

I would suggest, if we don't have any definite suspicions by the end of the day then we lunch one of the quieter ones, because then a) if we're right, obviously we've lynched a mafia member, which is good, and b) if we're wrong, then we won't have lost someone who's contributing and trying to help, so it's a win-win situation in my opinion. As I said though, we should only do this if we get to the end of the day and have no idea who to lynch.

And I stand by it. We may have made the wrong call, but, ultimately, we discussed it as a group and there was a real sense of cohesion, and that's the way it must be. Some of us may well be mafia, but, as I said earlier, if we can keep making our decisions as a group with the logic behind them, then we stand a much better chance than if we're all trying to solve who the mafia are on our own.

[chelsea11]

Whoever is the cop has either found out a couple of Townies or isn't doing a great job at leading us towards a Mafia member.

[Ali_BWFC]

It was a bad call to make, lynching HH. But we're doing EXACTLY what you townies did last time, and start pointing fingers as soon as a townie was lynched. That proved to be your downfall last time, lets not have it happen again.

[Joel]

Night 2 Conclusion: The Mafia choose to kill chelsea11.

That ends Night 2.

[Joel]

Day 3 starts now and will end midnight Monday.

chelsea 11 was a townie. His role was Townie.

[Ali_BWFC]

What was his role? EDIT: Nevermind

What about the serial killer.... is he not doing any lynching today?

RIP chelsea11.

[Bish]

Night 2 Conclusion: The Mafia choose to kill chelsea11.

That ends Night 2.

Doesn't he get a detailed, violent death? I'm in the right mood for it.

[Dale C.]

R.I.P Chelsea11.


Not quite sure what to make of that.

Fuck knows, what's happened to the serial killer Joel??

[Hunter]

I'm sure someone mentioned before that the serial killer will only kill every other day as to not dwindle the game down too quickly, so I assume this to be the case here otherwise we'd effectively have up to 3 deaths per day.

[Papa]

Well there goes my one and only hunch. I had a feeling he was mafia and now I'm back to complete ignorance. I think I need to go through this thread and take stock of what's happened so far, as right now I have no idea.