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All I have to say is, actions speak louder than words.... So far I have not contradicted myself in any way, yet Ali has contradicted himself with his actions.
If the town wants to base their actions on a bluff by Ali, so be it, I do not bluff nor do my actions are affected by bluffs. In my opinion, I do not think such an important role would be exposed at such an early stage of the game.
Particularly when Ali seems to have a weird association with Bammers, whom is my prime suspect at the moment. I have said it before and I will say it one last time, I do not think Ali is playing for the town because I do not think Bammers is playing for the town, and it seems to me like Ali and Bammers are playing for the same team.
My suggestion is very simple,
Ali says he is a cop or an investigator playing for the town, fair enough, but why does he trust Bammers so much?
I say it loud and clear, if the town goes ahead and lynches me on the saying so of Ali, the town is fully supporting Ali without knowing where Ali stands, therefore the town would be making a blatant mistake by giving such an insane advantage to just one individual, whom is currently bluffing to do what he wants to do.
In other words, the town is unnecessarily investing a great deal of trust in a person whom is bluffing to do what he wants to do, long story short, the town would put the balance of the game in the judgment of one individual without actually knowing where that individual stands.
So my suggestion is quite simple really, the town could not and should not fully support Ali; no, instead, we lynch Bammers.... We get rid of the suspicious partnership between Bammers and Ali, and we see where Bammers stands, which would give us a very good idea of where Ali stands; and if we like what we see, we then protect Ali during the night via the role blocker.
This is the safest option for the town, we give the benefit of the doubt to Ali but we do not give him our full support; giving Ali our full support is playing against the town.... as simple as that, we do not know where Ali stands, therefore giving him our full support when we are winning the game.... is a very risky move that is not worth the risk due to obvious reasons, it is not necessary nor is it worth the risk, the fact that Ali is contradicting himself with his actions and also supporting Bammers for no logical reason is very suspicious, we should not give our full support to such a suspicious individual.
I have provided what I consider to be solid evidence of why Bammers is not pro-town, which is much better than the bluff of a suspicious individual; I have given my pro-town suggestion, and there is nothing else that I can do from this point onwards.
I'm not afraid of getting lynched, I don't see anything wrong with dying without ever having contradicted my ideals, which is fair enough for me. However, I will say the following: if I get lynched today, at the end of the game, take a look at today's potential lynch, and tell me if it helped the town.
A man who with his actions contradicts the ideals that he uses to judge other people, is a man who should not be trusted; no bluff, quite simply, actions speak louder than words.
EDIT
If the town fully supports Ali today, the town will loose the game; I'm actually glad I have voted for myself.
Dundon's
25-03-2011, 21:57
Ok I've read back through a ball of pages and if it works out Ali is telling the truth about Amateur we could be onto a winning formula. That said if he's telling lies the odds are Bammers is in on it with him and we have to lynch both of them as a consequence.
That's fair, isn't it?
So for what's in it I'll vote now as I won't be around for the night.
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 21:57
I said this earlier, but in all the havoc you must have missed it.
I investigated smudger2008. At the time of the investigation, it was revealed that he was townie. However, something must have happened in the mean time which made him join the mafia. Very odd indeed.
It makes me a little worried about my role, if there's something that has happened that is giving me false information about my investigations.
EDIT: Papa has voted... now 4 votes for Amateur.
Perhaps you are not just a regular cop as you believe. There are several cop roles which mean you come up with wrong results, so maybe you are Naive Cop? It also states that the Naive Cop isn't told that he is the Naive Cop and believes he is just a regular cop.
Perhaps you are not just a regular cop as you believe. There are several cop roles which mean you come up with wrong results, so maybe you are Naive Cop? It also states that the Naive Cop isn't told that he is the Naive Cop and believes he is just a regular cop.
Fuck sake Phats, another spanner in the works.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:00
Perhaps you are not just a regular cop as you believe. There are several cop roles which mean you come up with wrong results, so maybe you are Naive Cop? It also states that the Naive Cop isn't told that he is the Naive Cop and believes he is just a regular cop.
Well, I fucking hope not :laugh:
EDIT: @ Amateur.... why do you trust laughin man so much???
That "partnership" is far more suspicious.
One more vote is required for a majority.
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 22:01
Fuck sake Phats, another spanner in the works.
I just realised that he can't be the Naive Cop but may be one of the others as a Naive Cop only gets innocent results whereas Ali got a guilty verdict from Amateur. EDIT: Insane cop maybe? If so, Amateur may be innocent.
laughin man
25-03-2011, 22:02
Haha some great stuff here, this is getting good :D
Just had a qyuick scan through I dont have long, Ali if you are infact the cop then im sorry for today I just couldnt understand why you were so sure :happy:
Do me a favour and investigate me tonight and then tell all these lads im townie
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:03
I just realised that he can't be the Naive Cop but may be one of the others as a Naive Cop only gets innocent results whereas Ali got a guilty verdict from Amateur. EDIT: Insane cop maybe? If so, Amateur may be innocent.
I am pretty insane to be fair :laugh:
What are the rules for an insane cop?
EDIT: It's 21:00 now. I'm willing to take suggestions for my next investigation. Majority wins. If the result is that Amateur is innocent, I will forgo the investigation.
The requisite total of votes has now been received for a majority lynch. Voting will close at 9:50pm. At this point Amateur can make a plea to the group to reconsider.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:07
In other words, he'll try to deflect the attention onto someone else!
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 22:07
I am pretty insane to be fair :laugh:
What are the rules for an insane cop?
EDIT: It's 21:00 now. I'm willing to take suggestions for my next investigation. Majority wins. If the result is that Amateur is innocent, I will forgo the investigation.
Insance Cop gets incorrect results all the time which would explain why Smudger came up as innocent. I can't think of any other way that he would've been shown to be innocent as I'm not aware of any mafia recruiting and we already knew his role was Mafia Assassin, which doesn't come with anything to fool a cop.
Wait, the Insane Cop theory throws a spanner in the works. If Ali is an Insane Cop, I believe that means that all of his investigations come out wrong. That would make sense with Smudger (who I believe to have been Mafia all the time as I suspected him on day one - I could've been wrong though), and more importantly would mean Amateur is town.
I'm not 100% that's what an Insane Cop is though. Anyone know for sure?
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 22:08
Sminky, I don't know if you've noticed but I Unvoted Amateur before Laughing Man posted.
Noted. Amateur will not be lynched as it stands.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:12
Can I suggest that everyone looks at how Amateur tries to direct attention onto others, when he is questioned, when you are trying to decide whether I am insane or sane.
Look at his posts, do his words seem like that of a townie or mafia? The constant hypocritical about vampires not taking actions etc, is what really gets me. When my investigation came in, I went back to see if I could find sufficient evidence to convict him, and I believe I did.
EDIT: Just got confirmation that I can reveal what Sminky said to me when it turned out smudger was mafia, when my investigation revealed he was "innocent".
He said something along the lines of "at the time, that was true".
Well, I fucking hope not :laugh:
EDIT: @ Amateur.... why do you trust laughin man so much???
That "partnership" is far more suspicious.
You are a fucking moron. I don't know where Laughinman stands, but he was one of the few people who was not jumping on bandwagons on the second day. I am just considering the facts that I do know, not the bluffs of someone whom I find spineless and suspicious; the fact is, without this bluff which in my opinion should be described as plain foul play, your witch hunt would be down to three votes still, which is sad since you can only gain attention with foul dirty reckless play.
Either way Ali, seems like the town will give you their full support, which means that the town will loose the game; to be honest, I don't give a fuck at this point, I'm just watching how the town looses the game again for the same reasons, it's quite a spectacle when you no longer feel like you have any stake in it.
EDIT
If I do survive, Laughinman has lost my sympathy, entirely, he is now as much a suspect as Bammers and Ali; actions speak louder than words.
Bammers is not pro-town, and yet Ali trusts him with his life, why?
And why the hell, would anyone, as townie, give their full support to Ali without actually knowing where Ali stands?
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:17
You are a fucking moron. I don't know where Laughinman stands, but he was one of the few people who was not jumping on bandwagons on the second day. I am just considering the facts that I do know, not the bluffs of someone whom I find spineless and suspicious; the fact is, without this bluff which in my opinion should be described as plain foul play, your witch hunt would be down to three votes still, which is sad since you can only gain attention with foul dirty reckless play.
Either way Ali, seems like the town will give you their full support, which means that the town will loose the game; to be honest, I don't give a fuck at this point, I'm just watching how the town looses the game again for the same reasons, it's quite a spectacle when you no longer feel like you have any stake in it.
No need to resort to name calling again, Amateur. It's just a bloody game! Lighten up!
Bammers05
25-03-2011, 22:18
Yeh, Amateur, the name-calling's a bit unnecessary.
No need to resort to name calling again, Amateur. It's just a bloody game! Lighten up!
It's just a game, you shouldn't take name calling seriously in the first place.
EDIT
I'm just describing what I think is foul play, in less than two nights, in a game of 18 characters, Ali already knows all that? and Bammers is a townie role blocker?
So the townie role blocker has blatantly exposed himself on the third day in a game with 18 characters.... correct? and why?
Which will leave the cop or investigator unprotected for the fourth day? Therefore handing the game on a silver platter for the Fixers Prizes (who remain untouched) to take the win.
I have to congratulate you for your great plan Ali.... Thanks to you, the town will loose the game, and this will be the day that tipped the balance against the town.
Bammers05
25-03-2011, 22:25
EDIT
If I do survive, Laughinman has lost my sympathy, entirely, he is now as much a suspect as Bammers and Ali.
Bammers is not pro-town, and yet Ali trusts him with his life, why?
And why the hell, would anyone, as townie, give their full support to Ali without actually knowing where Ali stands?
:lmao: Just another case of Amateur suspecting someone simply because they suspect him.
And yet he uses the 'fact' that I, apparently, am only suspicious of people who accuse me, as a way of 'proving' that I'm mafia :hmm:
30 minutes remaining. A further vote is required to lynch Amateur.
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 22:34
I'm torn at the moment. It may be worth lynching Amateur just to see where we stand regarding the cop etc. but ideally we don't want to lynch a townie. Hmmm.
:lmao: Just another case of Amateur suspecting someone simply because they suspect him.
And yet he uses the 'fact' that I, apparently, am only suspicious of people who accuse me, as a way of 'proving' that I'm mafia :hmm:
No, Laughinman used his vote against me, that's an action. By the way, your arguments are dumb as hell, I do not believe your bluff, particularly because it is a bluff that can only be detrimental for the town due to obvious reasons; Fixers Prize will win the game if I get lynched today, and something tells me that you know why.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:36
Has he tried to distance himself from laughin man again? :hmm:
Amateur suspects me and Bammers.... funnily enough, we are the same people who suspect him!
I will try to answer some of his suspicions on Bammers.
From the looks of things, they are not on the same side. It could still turn out that Bammers is mafia. But if he role blocked me, and believed I may be lying about Amateur, I think this proves he is not on the the other mafia side.
If he was mafia, why would he bring it up that I may be lying? Surely lynching a potential townie would be advantagous to him, so it would have been best to keep his mouth shut about it. Even if I wasn't lying, a rival mafia member getting lynched would be good news as far as he is concerned. This all makes me believe he has the town's best interest at heart, which is why he questioned me.
EDIT
2nd Day, Laughinman (07: 37)
The whole reason behind killing Fick is all circumstantial, a play on words enough to kill a man... really?
Im up for a Hunter kill myself but im willing to listen to the possy if a good enough case is put forward.
2nd Day, Bammers (13:24)
As for who to lynch tonight, I'm not certain who's mafia at this point, but I'm pretty sure Laughin Man isn't a townie, for various reasons which have been mentioned before, so I'd be willing if the rest of the town wanted to as well.
It's almost as if anybody who doubts either Ali or Bammers is automatically suspicious for reasons that only Bammers and Ali know, because as far as I'm concerned, I can't see why Chelsea11 or Dundon's or Lauhinman or myself are anymore suspicious than Bammers or Ali.
Now let me get this straight.... you just said the following thing....
2nd Day, Bammers (13:24)
As for who to lynch tonight, I'm not certain who's mafia at this point, but I'm pretty sure Laughin Man isn't a townie, for various reasons which have been mentioned before, so I'd be willing if the rest of the town wanted to as well.
So your suspicions are for reasons that have been mentioned before, therefore not putting yourself at risk in any way, since you are only jumping on the bandwagon and agreeing with reasons that have been mentioned before..... and you even go as far as saying that you'd be willing if the rest of the town wanted to as well....
Wait a minute, aren't you the guy who wanted to lynch Dundon's on the second day because Dundon's was acting like a vampire? Therefore why do you act by blatantly contradicting the principles that you use to judge other people?
2nd Day, Bammers (13:32)
I'm also suspicious of Dundons tbh. All his posts are about him being a townie, but he's never actually accused anyone, or even agreed with an accusation - a classic mafia tactic to get the post count up, without pointing the attention to themselves. He, also, said this a few pages ago:
2nd Day, Dundon's (07:00)
As for a lynching today, I'm not sure. I will go with the majority decision for now if people want to chance their luck, I have a few suspects but would prefer not to name them now as I don't need the heat with two Mafia families doing the rounds.
Again, a classic mafia ploy to allow the townies to accuse an inoccent townie and then contribute to their downfall, without taking any responsibility.
The more I think about it, the more sure I am that Dundon's is a mafia member.
Only to blatantly contradict yourself with your actions....
2nd Day, Bammers (13:24)
As for who to lynch tonight, I'm not certain who's mafia at this point, but I'm pretty sure Laughin Man isn't a townie, for various reasons which have been mentioned before, so I'd be willing if the rest of the town wanted to as well.
What. The. Fuck.
A man who with his actions contradicts the principles the he uses to judge other people.... is a man that should not be trusted; actions speak louder than words.
EDIT
I have voted a total of 3 times, each vote of mine was aimed at the mafia, that's a decent record.
I do not like the accusation coming my way, I particularly do not like the individuals whom are throwing all these accusations, I have enough logical action-based reasons to believe that Bammers is not pro-townie, therefore I would be willing to use my vote against him.
If we lynch Bammers and Bammers is pro-townie, I will accept the consequences, but I am telling you straight, Bammers is not pro-town, his actions have exposed him.
My only two options today are either,
a) use my vote against Bammers, he is currently using his vote against a townie, with his actions he has blatantly contradicted the principles that he uses in order to judge other people, actions speak louder than words, his actions have exposed his lack of credibility or usefulness to the town.
b) not use my vote against anyone but myself, and see if the night events give us better evidence; we mustn't forget, that the Janitor role has been eliminated, therefore the night events will provide more evidence.
EDIT
If I get lynched the town will loose the game because the balance will tip against the town. Bammer's bluff about the role blocker will be detrimental for the town for obvious reasons; if I get lynched today, if the town supports two individuals whom are currently bluffing when we still have 14 players in the game, Fixers Prize will win the game, mark my words.
Bammers05
25-03-2011, 22:41
I've seen that post before...but where? :hmm:
STOP COPYING AND PASTING!
Honestly mate, quote yourself if you want but don't just copy and paste because people simply won't read it.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:43
He keeps posting the same shit over and over in the hope that nobody notices. He's dying people, he's getting desperate. Lynch the git so we don't have to put up with him any more!!
Voting closes in 3 minutes. Amateur has recieved 8 votes.
Voting closed. Amateur, now is your chance to plea for your life ...
Voting closed. Amateur, now is your chance to plea for your life ...
I just did, the town has spoken through democracy.
Watch him copy and paste.
:laugh:
You can only unvote in the voting thread mate and before the cut off point.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:56
So is he lynched or not?
Anyway.... fingers crossed that I'm not insane and/or Bammers's block didn't give me an incorrect result.
Day session ends in 3 minutes ... Summary to follow ...
Sminky's behaviour here is making me nervous...
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 22:58
Sminky's behaviour here is making me nervous...
In what way?
In what way?
He seems to be giving Amateur more ways out than he usually does. Hopefully it's nothing, or maybe based on the fact that one of the votes was Amateur's but I am slightly worried.
Townies, this decision will cost you the game, sad, but true; anyways, good luck, hopefully we have a few twists and turns that might benefit the town.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:01
He seems to be giving Amateur more ways out than he usually does. Hopefully it's nothing, or maybe based on the fact that one of the votes was Amateur's but I am slightly worried.
Well, I think Amateur unvoted, but it was after the deadline.
EDIT: If you ARE a townie Amateur, lynching one person will not cost the town the game.
Well, I think Amateur unvoted, but it was after the deadline.
EDIT: If you ARE a townie Amateur, lynching one person will not cost the town the game.
If you say so, let's see what happens during the night, you risked a great deal in getting me lynch via a dirty bluff; I'm just saying, if you are pro-townie, you just fucked the game for the town when the town was winning, that's all I'm saying, and don't take my word for it, when the game is over, take a look at today's decision and tell me if it was beneficial or detrimental for the town.
I think the town will loose, and I think that today was the first big shift in balance, you tell me what you think when the game is over.
When you unvote, make a new post (unless you are the last post). How are people supposed to know when you have unvoted?
Day session ends:
Summary:
The town riding high on the back of two mafia kills and led by Ali’s conviction of Amateur’s guilt, decided Amateur should bite the dust. With 8 votes, one from himself, Amateur was lynched.
Conclusion:
Despite his bluff (and unvote outside of the deadline) ... Amateur was mafia.
Night session begins:
Bammers05
25-03-2011, 23:14
:)
Sminky are we allowed to know if he was Parkhurst reserves or Fixers Prize?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fUuA3_OvHrk/TI_VttlGSoI/AAAAAAAABjo/5MJ8Ig4Ut1k/s400/Vampire02.jpg
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 23:15
Day session ends:
Summary:
The town riding high on the back of two mafia kills and led by Ali’s conviction of Amateur’s guilt, decided Amateur should bite the dust. With 8 votes, one from himself, Amateur was lynched.
Conclusion:
Despite his bluff (and unvote outside of the deadline) ... Amateur was mafia.
Night session begins:
By that you mean he was part of the Parkhurst Reserves, right?
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:16
Thank fuck for that :D
So much for bluffing, eh Amateur!!
EDIT: Haha! Well played Hunter!
The town just lost the game with that decision..... but anyways, I'm hoping the town wins this time, I was actually playing for the town.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fUuA3_OvHrk/TI_VttlGSoI/AAAAAAAABjo/5MJ8Ig4Ut1k/s400/Vampire02.jpg
LOL
Sorry guys ... Amateur was Parkhurst Reserves mafia
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:19
The town just lost the game with that decision..... but anyways, I'm hoping the town wins this time, I was actually playing for the town.
Suuuuuuuuuure you were. Vampire!!
Sorry guys ... Amateur was Parkhurst Reserves mafia
Hmmm, I actually thought he was Fixers, nevermind.
Now.... who to investigate next :hmm:
Phatmann
25-03-2011, 23:23
Maybe Amateur was a Death Miller? There seems no reason for him to say he was playing for the town after his death. The Death Miller is shown to be mafia on investigation and is also revealed to be mafia after his death, even though all along he is actually a townie. I believe the person in question is unaware of this throughout the game.
Suuuuuuuuuure you were. Vampire!!
Hmmm, I actually thought he was Fixers, nevermind.
Now.... who to investigate next :hmm:
Oh what was that.... you thought I was Fixer after I told you that if you lynched me you would loose the game.... now why the fuck would I be Fixer when I'm saying that getting me lynched would be detrimental for the town?
It was a bad decision and the town fully supported you with it, as a result, the town will now loose the game, either the cult or the Fixers Prize will win it now; you will die soon, you used your role for the wrong person, congrats.
EDIT
Unlike you, I never bluffed with my judgment because I was playing for the town you moron; but congratulations for handing the game to the Fixers Prize on a silver platter, a job well done.
Maybe Amateur was a Death Miller? There seems no reason for him to say he was playing for the town after his death. The Death Miller is shown to be mafia on investigation and is also revealed to be mafia after his death, even though all along he is actually a townie. I believe the person in question is unaware of this throughout the game.
Interesting point.... I'm not saying anything else about that, since I'm out of the game anyways, but it's an interesting comment, perhaps you should have brought it up before using your vote against me, it's always better than voting on a blatant bluff.
Just thought I'd say it anyways, but, so far, the people who vote for themselves, are never actually playing against the town; but I guess a cheap bluff always does the trick, damn it communities are stupid as fuck.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:32
Amateur, mate.... why do you keep on insisting that getting rid of a mafia member was a bad idea? Why do you keep saying I bluffed? I'm a cop, I investigated you, you were mafia. It's that simple!!
God, I'm relieved to get you out of this game, you're soooo annoying. I couldn't give a fuck whether or not you are a Death Miller now. I'm sick of your long repeated posts. Now, go back to bothering the PES 2011 threads with your left analogue stick nonsense :laugh:
Cheap bluff my arse.
Take it easy guys.
Amateur, you're dead now, so you shouldn't be commenting on the tactical side of the game.
Amateur, mate.... why do you keep on insisting that getting rid of a mafia member was a bad idea? Why do you keep saying I bluffed? I'm a cop, I investigated you, you were mafia. It's that simple!!
God, I'm relieved to get you out of this game, you're soooo annoying. I couldn't give a fuck whether or not you are a Death Miller now. I'm sick of your long repeated posts. Now, go back to bothering the PES 2011 threads with your left analogue stick nonsense :laugh:
Whatever you say mate, don't take my word for it, when MWIV is over, take a look at the lynch of the third day, and tell me if it was beneficial or detrimental FOR the town.
You made a dumb decision, it was fucking dumb, and you will see why when the game is over.
Or, in the unlikely case you are not pro-townie, than it was brilliantly done, though perhaps you played your cards too early in the game; again, you will see why when the game is over.
Simple.
EDIT
I couldn't give a fuck about whatever it is that you think about me, personally, I was playing a game and I hope that most people are also playing a game, and since it is a game, I'm not about to describe certain people as "annoying" or some other name, that's a personal offense mate.
The fact that you have personally offended me over a game, says a lot about yourself. Anyways, have a good one.
Can someone change the title to Night time now please.
Also, I'm out tomorrow evening for a couple of hours, there may be a slight delay with tomorrow's dialogue at the end of night 3.
To help me, can all players with night roles get their requests to me as soon as they can.
Cheers.
Really Amateur, give it a rest, you take everything so personal. It's a game. Ali says he's the Cop, he investigated you, your role was revealed to be Mafia. He decided to let the Town know, resulting in you being lynched. How can you possibly argue against this? Whether it's the wrong decision we'll ultimately see at the end of the War but the fact you're arguing against the logic of the lynching you is just absurd. Give it a rest, calm down and now instead of ranting, just pop in every now and then like myself, post a cheeky one-liner, possibly a picture and a quote of "Ohhh snap!" or "Shit just got real!" and depart. Everyone's happy.
Peace is God.
Rev Run.
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:47
You're such a hypocrite Amateur.... I just can't be bothered with you anymore.
On with the game. Well played lads. If I survive the night, I'll reveal the results of my next investigation. I've not decided on who I should investigate yet though.
I'll make a decision by morning time, is that alright Sminky? Or would you prefer it now?
EDIT: Aye, well said, Hunter...... but no Jersey Shore shit.... please! :D
Really Amateur, give it a rest, you take everything so personal. It's a game. Ali says he's the Cop, he investigated you, your role was revealed to be Mafia. He decided to let the Town know, resulting in you being lynched. How can you possibly argue against this? Whether it's the wrong decision we'll ultimately see at the end of the War but the fact you're arguing against the logic of the lynching you is just absurd. Give it a rest, calm down and now instead of ranting, just pop in every now and then like myself, post a cheeky one-liner, possibly a picture and a quote of "Ohhh snap!" or "Shit just got real!" and depart. Everyone's happy.
Peace is God.
Rev Run.
:laugh: Sage advice.
... And Besides ... Its the best day of the week!
CD2LRROpph0
Ali_BWFC
25-03-2011, 23:49
... And Besides ... Its the best day of the week!
CD2LRROpph0
Yeah... but what comes after Friday???? What comes after, damn it?????????
You're such a hypocrite Amateur.... I just can't be bothered with you anymore.
Meh. At least I know when I'm arguing about a video game and when I'm playing a game, if pretending that you are correct in describing me as a hypocrite makes you feel better, I couldn't give a fuck.
This is a game, and you are not important enough in my life, for me to call you a hypocrite just because of a some mafia game or just because of some argument about a video game.
Though to make myself clear, I don't know you personally and therefore I will not describe you as a hypocrite or whatever, I will only say that as a person, as a person, you have lost my respect in whatever you say in this website. Of course, you don't give a fuck, nor do I, I'm just making myself clear for the sake of it or perhaps just to show a little decency, perhaps a little bit of both, but whatever.
Really Amateur, give it a rest, you take everything so personal. It's a game. Ali says he's the Cop, he investigated you, your role was revealed to be Mafia. He decided to let the Town know, resulting in you being lynched. How can you possibly argue against this? Whether it's the wrong decision we'll ultimately see at the end of the War but the fact you're arguing against the logic of the lynching you is just absurd. Give it a rest, calm down and now instead of ranting, just pop in every now and then like myself, post a cheeky one-liner, possibly a picture and a quote of "Ohhh snap!" or "Shit just got real!" and depart. Everyone's happy.
Peace is God.
Rev Run.
I disagree with you, it's not absurd to criticize absurdity, when you overrule reason in order to investigate a person because you personally dislike the mentioned person, you are putting yourself above reason, I was not suspicious, I was playing for the town, and Ali wasted his role on the wrong person, mainly because he investigated me for all the wrong reasons.
As a result, we have a cult running loose, the Parkhurst Mafia is finished and therefore poses no threat to the cult, the Fixers Prize remain untouched, and the townies are quite simply fucked.
And this happened because Ali decided to investigate me for no logical reason. If you disagree with what I'm saying or find it absurd, I completely disagree with you.
In addition, I don't like being personally insulted over a damn mafia game or over some discussion concerning a video game, and Ali has personally insulted me over what is after all a game, and I'm certainly not cool with it, not because I take things too personally, but because Ali has personally offended me over a damn mafia game, it was not a joke, it was a plain personal insult, I'm not cool with that.
But anyways, thanks for the advice.
Bammers05
25-03-2011, 23:59
Amateur, give it a rest.
Sminky, that's three Parkhurst Reserves mafia out. Are you allowed to tell us if they're all out or are there any more?
Also, if there's a townie doctor, I think it's pretty obvious who should be protected tonight.
All I shall say at this point is that the Parkhurst Mafia are still active
It aint so bad in hell, Amateur.
Clubs are waiting to be hit:
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It aint so bad in hell, Amateur.
Clubs are waiting to be hit:
http://menversus.com/images/raonnie.gif
:laugh:
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Have some rep.
http://www.videodetective.com/photos/356/014974_24.jpg
H E double hockey sticks.
I'd like to think I'm not there. Just purgatory. :unsure:
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 00:18
OI Pain! What did I tell you about that shit?? I'm gonn put you in the fucking slammer if you continue to behave in that way!!
On that note, I'm off for the night now. Gonna watch some Being Human, which is about vampires and werewolves and shit..... how ironic :D
:laugh:
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Bammers05
26-03-2011, 00:30
Nice of you to post, Appswah :hmm:
All I shall say at this point is that the Parkhurst Mafia are still active
The poisoner is still active, unless Sminky fucked up & forgot to add it as Amateurs role?
Another good day for the town. Big concern though is still this Fixers Prize lark. Until one dies we aren't going to know what the craic is.
I'm hoping the mafia get one tonight (intentionally or otherwise) to give us some kind of clue.
As for Amateur... still cannot say I was 100%, if truth be told the posts were too bloody long to follow!
Dundon's
26-03-2011, 05:01
Finally the cop comes up trumps for the town!!! I've been saying it for ages that the only way to win this bloody thing is to get the cop out in the open with some names.
Big up to Ali, great stuff kid.
Right, I'm going to extend the cut off point to 10pm as I'm out for dinner tonight. To avoid confusion, can a mod/admin add the 10pm cut off time to the thread title please?
Meyyappan
26-03-2011, 13:26
Has a lot happened is it wise that i go back through the pages?
Has a lot happened is it wise that i go back through the pages?
In a word, yes.
Has a lot happened is it wise that i go back through the pages?
:laugh:
Good ole Meyyappan.
Meyyappan
26-03-2011, 13:49
I was kinda caught up in gym and social activities as i am in holidays,i will try my best to fulfill your expectations.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 13:49
Finally the cop comes up trumps for the town!!! I've been saying it for ages that the only way to win this bloody thing is to get the cop out in the open with some names.
Big up to Ali, great stuff kid.
Thanks mate.
Has a lot happened is it wise that i go back through the pages?
Don't worry, half of it is Amateur just copying and pasting the same stuff :laugh:
Right, I have been debating about when to tell you guys this, so I'll do it now to get it out of the way:
Last night I was informed by the Man Upstairs that due to a death after Day 2 (obviously after I got my investigation in), I have lost my investigative powers, so I'm now just a regular townie. You would have found out anyway, but I'm saying this now, in case a certain role hasn't made his decision yet.
Thanks mate.
Don't worry, half of it is Amateur just copying and pasting the same stuff :laugh:
Right, I have been debating about when to tell you guys this, so I'll do it now to get it out of the way:
Last night I was informed by the Man Upstairs that due to a death after Day 2 (obviously after I got my investigation in), I have lost my investigative powers, so I'm now just a regular townie. You would have found out anyway, but I'm saying this now, in case a certain role hasn't made his decision yet.
Isn't there a chance you could've been recruited by the cult though? I'm leaning towards giving you the benefit of the doubt after last night's lynch.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 14:00
Isn't there a chance you could've been recruited by the cult though? I'm leaning towards giving you the benefit of the doubt after last night's lynch.
I was thinking about this. After losing my powers, if I got recruited by the cult, I would have just lied. Made members of the cult seem innocent etc. Basically just make up the investigations.
There was another player with a certain role in this game, that I was "attached" to. I don't know who this was, but if he died (which he did), I'd lose my powers.
There was another player with a certain role in this game, that I was "attached" to. I don't know who this was, but if he died (which he did), I'd lose my powers.
Well that answers the question of who you should investigate next. Credit to you for the work you've done Ali. I'll have to be honest here & say I thought you were bluffing on the cop thing at first, but hey, I was wrong.
Meyyappan
26-03-2011, 14:15
I see no love has been lost about me so i will try to do my best lol
laughin man
26-03-2011, 14:27
Right, I have been debating about when to tell you guys this, so I'll do it now to get it out of the way:
Last night I was informed by the Man Upstairs that due to a death after Day 2 (obviously after I got my investigation in), I have lost my investigative powers, so I'm now just a regular townie. You would have found out anyway, but I'm saying this now, in case a certain role hasn't made his decision yet.
It's possible that you were connected to Smudger the vigilante. Couldnt be that many bad guys left, the towns on fire :D
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Also who else did you investigate?
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 14:45
It's possible that you were connected to Smudger the vigilante. Couldnt be that many bad guys left, the towns on fire :D
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQF37DTJmnLK-9gH5guidarAi_1U6v1GIRTx3dFviUF QE4CAa18&t=1
Also who else did you investigate?
I wasn't connected to smudger. I don't know if I can reveal the role that I was connected to, I'd have to check with Sminky. Smudger was actually the first person I investigated, who was not mafia "at the time". So he must have joined or been recruited by the mafia, or it was a stipulation of his role, that once he killed someone (Hunter in this case), he joined the mafia..... I just don't know.
I've only investigated 2 people so far.
Right, I have been debating about when to tell you guys this, so I'll do it now to get it out of the way:
Last night I was informed by the Man Upstairs that due to a death after Day 2 (obviously after I got my investigation in), I have lost my investigative powers, so I'm now just a regular townie. You would have found out anyway, but I'm saying this now, in case a certain role hasn't made his decision yet.
For someone who is always quick to point out about rule breaking, it's surprising that you would post this at night time.
A clear tactical aspect of the game, Ali.
laughin man
26-03-2011, 14:50
I wasn't connected to smudger. I don't know if I can reveal the role that I was connected to, I'd have to check with Sminky. Smudger was actually the first person I investigated, who was not mafia "at the time". So he must have joined or been recruited by the mafia, or it was a stipulation of his role, that once he killed someone (Hunter in this case), he joined the mafia..... I just don't know.
I've only investigated 2 people so far.
Thats very odd, Iv never seen anything where the Mafia can induct new members :huh:
For someone who is always quick to point out about rule breaking, it's surprising that you would post this at night time.
A clear tactical aspect of the game, Ali.
Its just so damn interesting though Pain, il leave it at that till tomorrow :happy:
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 14:55
For someone who is always quick to point out about rule breaking, it's surprising that you would post this at night time.
A clear tactical aspect of the game, Ali.
OK, sorry. I just wanted to get it in now, so they didn't think I was witholding it in order to be saved. It's not like I'm saying "we should go after such and such a person", anywho. That's why I was getting annoyed before, because Amateur was floating my name (and other names for that matter) about during the night time.
laughin man
26-03-2011, 14:57
OK, sorry. I just wanted to get it in now, so they didn't think I was witholding it in order to be saved. It's not like I'm saying "we should go after such and such a person", anywho. That's why I was getting annoyed before, because Amateur was floating my name (and other names for that matter) about during the night time.
Its gonna be some pain looking through all his posts for clues :(
Its just so damn interesting though Pain, il leave it at that till tomorrow :happy:
OK, sorry. I just wanted to get it in now, so they didn't think I was witholding it in order to be saved. It's not like I'm saying "we should go after such and such a person", anywho. That's why I was getting annoyed before, because Amateur was floating my name (and other names for that matter) about during the night time.
I get what you are both saying. But it's just that all the night roles may not have been used yet and could still be influenced by new information - which isn't supposed to happen at night.
Anyway, I'm dead, what do I know? :serial:
smudger2008
26-03-2011, 15:01
Day session ends:
Summary:
The town riding high on the back of two mafia kills and led by Ali’s conviction of Amateur’s guilt, decided Amateur should bite the dust. With 8 votes, one from himself, Amateur was lynched.
Conclusion:
Despite his bluff (and unvote outside of the deadline) ... Amateur was mafia.
Night session begins:
You've all be saying how intelligent he is, and his own vote killed him, hehehehe
:laugh:
Meh. At least I know when I'm arguing about a video game and when I'm playing a game, if pretending that you are correct in describing me as a hypocrite makes you feel better, I couldn't give a fuck.
This is a game, and you are not important enough in my life, for me to call you a hypocrite just because of a some mafia game or just because of some argument about a video game.
Though to make myself clear, I don't know you personally and therefore I will not describe you as a hypocrite or whatever, I will only say that as a person, as a person, you have lost my respect in whatever you say in this website. Of course, you don't give a fuck, nor do I, I'm just making myself clear for the sake of it or perhaps just to show a little decency, perhaps a little bit of both, but whatever.
Personally, I don't like being personally insulted over a damn mafia game or over some discussion concerning a video game, and Ali has personally insulted me over what is after all a game, and I'm certainly not cool with it, not because I take things too personally, but because Ali has personally offended me over a damn mafia game, it was not a joke, it was a plain personal insult, I'm not cool with that.
But anyways, thanks for the advice.
let it go, for fucks sake :laugh:
Leave it be, Smudger. That's yesterday's news, no need to bring it back up. Just going to start a load of shit again.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 15:09
I get what you are both saying. But it's just that all the night roles may not have been used yet and could still be influenced by new information - which isn't supposed to happen at night.
Anyway, I'm dead, what do I know? :serial:
I think certain things need clarifying for the next game:
1) Specifically what we can and can't talk about during the night time.
2) If there is a cop involved, the result of his investigation shouldn't come in until all night time roles have, and likewise for any similar roles. This would save any confusion, such as the confusion caused when Bammers revealed his role, and he thought he role blocked me. He could be bluffing, but if this rule is put in place, there would be no problem like this in the first place.
laughin man
26-03-2011, 15:09
You've all be saying how intelligent he is, and his own vote killed him, hehehehe
:laugh:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HWBrxh5pACo/S-uOfPT1q0I/AAAAAAAABJU/6EYE5bmcHbw/s1600/STUPIDITY_by_wizzpig666.jpg
smudger2008
26-03-2011, 15:10
Leave it be, Smudger. That's yesterday's news, no need to bring it back up. Just going to start a load of shit again.
Sorry, I was out yesterday and I've just woke up with a smashing hangover to read this brilliant shit!!
Sminky you should write yourself a book mate!
EDIT: Joel you're posting more now you're dead than you did when you was alive :laugh:
laughin man
26-03-2011, 15:13
Sorry, I was out yesterday and I've just woke up with a smashing hangover to read this brilliant shit!!
Sminky you should write yourself a book mate!
Same as myself, I wasnt on last night so didnt get a chance to ask any questions.
I think certain things need clarifying for the next game:
1) Specifically what we can and can't talk about during the night time.
2) If there is a cop involved, the result of his investigation shouldn't come in until all night time roles have, and likewise for any similar roles. This would save any confusion, such as the confusion caused when Bammers revealed his role, and he thought he role blocked me. He could be bluffing, but if this rule is put in place, there would be no problem like this in the first place.
Agreed.
It's hard for the people involved to see where the line is between what can be said and not at night.
I'm not the moderator for this game, so it isn't my rules, but I'd probably say you can't talk about roles or the next day. Basically, you can just give reaction to the summary.
And I guess what the moderator will have to do in future, is to not give results back until all the night time roles have come in.
I'm not sure how Sminky does it, but when I modded the second game, I would give results back straight away. Luckily for me, the roleblockers never blocked the cop.
EDIT: Joel you're posting more now you're dead than you did when you was alive :laugh:
Ironic, huh?
laughin man
26-03-2011, 15:17
I'm not sure how Sminky does it, but when I modded the second game, I would give results back straight away. Luckily for me, the roleblockers never blocked the cop.
Nothing should be done before the deadline, its the only way.
Agreed.
It's hard for the people involved to see where the line is between what can be said and not at night.
I'm not the moderator for this game, so it isn't my rules, but I'd probably say you can't talk about roles or the next day. Basically, you can just give reaction to the summary.
And I guess what the moderator will have to do in future, is to not give results back until all the night time roles have come in.
I'm not sure how Sminky does it, but when I modded the second game, I would give results back straight away. Luckily for me, the roleblockers never blocked the cop.
Indeed, you cannot discuss roles or the next day and as for roleblocking, I return the results immediately unless either
a. There is a unique set of circumstances ... i.e multiple blocking
b. It benefits the game not too.
Regardless, I shall open a Mods Mafia LogBook Thread after the game where I will publish my Mafia Wars player activity 'diary'.
Just thought I'd pop in to congratulate everyone. MWIV has now surpassed all previous Mafia Wars in terms of responses (and very soon views) too. It's been a crazy game to say the least thus far.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 15:35
Indeed, you cannot discuss roles or the next day and as for roleblocking, I return the results immediately unless either
a. There is a unique set of circumstances ... i.e multiple blocking
b. It benefits the game not too.
Regardless, I shall open a Mods Mafia LogBook Thread after the game where I will publish my Mafia Wars player activity 'diary'.
OK, so you're bending the rules in order to make the game better? Isn't that like a referee deciding not to send a player off in a big match, because it may ruin it? :hmm:
We need consistancy, man!! :laugh:
Hey Smink I put this in the other thread in a reply to Meyyappan but in case you haven't seen it, I thought it might be a good idea to update the list of participants on the first page so we can see who's been killed so far and what role they were (if it has been revealed).
laughin man
26-03-2011, 15:40
OK, so you're bending the rules in order to make the game better? Isn't that like a referee deciding not to send a player off in a big match, because it may ruin it? :hmm:
We need consistancy, man!! :laugh:
The Arsenal Barca match would have been better if Sminky was referee ;)
OK, so you're bending the rules in order to make the game better? Isn't that like a referee deciding not to send a player off in a big match, because it may ruin it? :hmm:
We need consistancy, man!! :laugh:
You may see it that way but its not the case, my decisions are consistent ... and I cannot elaborate anymore at this point anyway.
Hey Smink I put this in the other thread in a reply to Meyyappan but in case you haven't seen it, I thought it might be a good idea to update the list of participants on the first page so we can see who's been killed so far and what role they were (if it has been revealed).
Good Idea ... I'm on it ...
Active:
Bammers
Papa
Fick
Appswah
Ali
Dundon's
Chelsea11
Meyyappan
TheBishop
Phatmann
Laughin' Man
Dead Townies:
Football777
- Townie
- Left game
Dead Mafia:
Joel
- Parkhurst Reserves Janitor
- Killed (Randomly) by Roleblock Night 2
Smudger
- Parkhurst Reserves Assassin
- Killed (Randomly) by Roleblock Night 2
Amateur
- Parkhurst Reserves
- Killed by majority vote Day 3
Dead 3rd Parties:
Billy Minof
- Serial Killer
- Killed by Fixers Prize Night 1
Dale C.
- Unknown
- Killed by The Parkhurst Reserves Night 1
Hunter
- Cult
- Killed by The Parkhurst Reserves Day 2
chelsea11
26-03-2011, 18:32
Smudger
- Parkhurst Reserves Assassin- Killed (Randomly) by Roleblock Night 2
Just to clear up the confusion over the last couple of pages there between Ali and laughin man ;)
laughin man
26-03-2011, 19:41
Just to clear up the confusion over the last couple of pages there between Ali and laughin man ;)
Yeah but wasnt he different, he could kill at night and at day.... im thinking he was an assasin/vigilante, doesnt matter anyway
smudger2008
26-03-2011, 19:45
Yeah but wasnt different, he could kill at night and at day.... im thinking he was a assasin/vigilante, doesnt matter anyway
Assasin is the same role as vigilante, except not pro-town like the vigilante
You've all be saying how intelligent he is, and his own vote killed him, hehehehe
:laugh:
I never claimed to be intelligent, I just think it is dumb to investigate a person for no logical reason, putting yourself above reason is detrimental, and Ali investigate the wrong person for all the wrong reasons, which will be detrimental for the town in one way or the other.
Now Ali is bluffing again about how he lost his powers.... regardless of whatever the truth is, the Parkhurst Mafia is finished now, and now you have a Cult on the loose, Fixers Prize remains untouched, and the town will quickly be consumed by the cult with the Parkhurst Mafia out of the picture, in the end, the game will be won by either the Cult or Fixers Prize.
Ali and Bammers make a juicy target for the cult, Fixers Prize remains untouched, and in less than three nights the Parkhurst Mafia was reduced to nothing; if you think the third day lynch was an "intelligent" decision for the town to make, perhaps it explains a lot about yourself as a player.
Anyways, it is a game, I just didn't liked the reasons behind my investigation nor the tactics used to incriminate me, though again, I'm talking about a game, therefore there's no reason for you to take anything I say about the game personally.
It's just constructive criticism to be honest, some people may consider it too personal or too harsh, but as far as I'm concerned it is constructive criticism and therefore should not be taken as a personal offense nor anything of the sort.
laughin man
26-03-2011, 19:59
I never claimed to be intelligent,
I claimed you were intelligent and I was right cause you played me like a punk :happy:
I just think it is dumb to investigate a person for no logical reason, putting yourself above reason is detrimental, and Ali investigate the wrong person for all the wrong reasons, which will be detrimental for the town in one way or the other.
How could it be dumb when in two tries he finds two mafia members, excellent work is what id call it
Now Ali is bluffing again about how he lost his powers.... regardless of whatever the truth is, the Parkhurst Mafia is finished now, and now you have a Cult on the loose, Fixers Prize remains untouched, and the town will be quickly consumed by the cult with the Parkhurst Mafia out of the picture, in the end, the game will be won by either the Cult or Fixers Prize.
Your wrong there we'll win this game, the right people are getting strung up, the Mafia has to be paranoid about making hits aswell its a mine field going by last nights events and all the cult has to do is pick a mafia guy and their leader dies.
Its all good you sneaky git :happy:
smudger2008
26-03-2011, 20:00
let it go mate, you're dead.
chelsea11
26-03-2011, 20:08
Yeah but wasnt he different, he could kill at night and at day.... im thinking he was an assasin/vigilante, doesnt matter anyway
Just meant, he would show up innocent to any investigation.
laughin man
26-03-2011, 20:13
Just meant, he would show up innocent to any investigation.
I read the role and he should definitely have showed up as Mafia if he was investigated....
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQF_2jeaofog p6Y-VFpMhufaOYhlw4prcmQMlqjsBVzZYD 1zcg&t=1
That's it, anyone else posts 'shit just got real' is a dead man. Unless someone who is already dead posts it........
That's it, anyone else posts 'shit just got real' is a dead man. Unless someone who is already dead posts it........
Oh yeah? You and whose Mafia?
laughin man
26-03-2011, 20:23
That's it, anyone else posts 'shit just got real' is a dead man. Unless someone who is already dead posts it........
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/05/SHIT-JUST-GOT-SURREAL-BWE-TV.jpg
http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/05/SHIT-JUST-GOT-SURREAL-BWE-TV.jpg
That's better.
That's it, anyone else posts 'shit just got real' is a dead man. Unless someone who is already dead posts it........
Would you like me to post more Jersey Shore gifs?
Would you like me to post more Jersey Shore gifs?
You're in hell, you shouldn't have access to a computer.
http://www.reptilianrecords.com/store/images/stickers/coop_computer.jpg
^ She let me use hers.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 20:35
I never claimed to be intelligent, I just think it is dumb to investigate a person for no logical reason, putting yourself above reason is detrimental, and Ali investigate the wrong person for all the wrong reasons, which will be detrimental for the town in one way or the other.
Now Ali is bluffing again about how he lost his powers.... regardless of whatever the truth is, the Parkhurst Mafia is finished now, and now you have a Cult on the loose, Fixers Prize remains untouched, and the town will quickly be consumed by the cult with the Parkhurst Mafia out of the picture, in the end, the game will be won by either the Cult or Fixers Prize.
Ali and Bammers make a juicy target for the cult, Fixers Prize remains untouched, and in less than three nights the Parkhurst Mafia was reduced to nothing; if you think the third day lynch was an "intelligent" decision for the town to make, perhaps it explains a lot about yourself as a player.
Anyways, it is a game, I just didn't liked the reasons behind my investigation nor the tactics used to incriminate me, though again, I'm talking about a game, therefore there's no reason for you to take anything I say about the game personally.
It's just constructive criticism to be honest, some people may consider it too personal or too harsh, but as far as I'm concerned it is constructive criticism and therefore should not be taken as a personal offense nor anything of the sort.
I'm gonna try to clear the air here:
After you put my name forward at the end of the first day, I was annoyed, but was also suspicious about the way you did it, and why you wouldn't reveal the reasons straight away. So that effected my decision on who I should investigate. My tactic after that, was to hope I got through the night unscathed and the go in all guns blazing. I felt you were a threat because of how well you did in the last game, so I would stop at nothing to get you lynched. Because people were trusting you before that, so I couldn't let them trust a potentially powerful mafia member.
I personally think another Parkhurst member getting killed is fantastic. Because as soon as that team is defeated, we have to worry about one less lynch per night.
If Sminky will let me reveal the reason towards me losing my powers, I will. Why would I bluff that?? It makes me less of a benefit to the town now.
EDIT: I haven't bluffed at all. The facts are there to see. I came straight out and said that you were mafia, and you were. I wouldn't have been so forceful had I not been sure of it.
Chaps, I've had a power cut, I'm sending this from my mobile. I'll do the write up as soon as Southern Electric get everything fixed.
chelsea11
26-03-2011, 22:22
No worries man, whenever you can. They've been pretty good so far though, so we're expecting nothing but brilliance! :tongue:
Power is back up ...
By the way guys, I'd rather not be included in your discussions - I'm just the game mod :)
Right ... Night section is about to close ... I've got a bit of writing to do so feel free to chat amongst yourselves ... whilst you're still alive ... mwuah hahahahha .... right ... back soon ...
I claimed you were intelligent and I was right cause you played me like a punk :happy:
How could it be dumb when in two tries he finds two mafia members, excellent work is what id call it
Your wrong there we'll win this game, the right people are getting strung up, the Mafia has to be paranoid about making hits aswell its a mine field going by last nights events and all the cult has to do is pick a mafia guy and their leader dies.
Its all good you sneaky git :happy:
Of course you can win the game, since the balance of the game can be dramatically affected by random factors such as the second night; and I'm also no expert on mafia games, I have only played twice, I'm just saying that when a person whom is supposed to be pro-townie turns the game into a bluffing fest....
Well, I cannot see how the town will benefit from a bluffing fest, if anything, I see the Cult and the Fixers Prize benefiting a great deal, because the town does not have a code of ethics to follow.
I mean, a lot of other people were a lot more suspicious than I, and Ali investigated me regardless of the fact that he had no reason to suspect of me. This means that in order to get me lynch he needed to contradict his own methods, he needed to blatantly expose his identity, Bammers also bluffed about his identity, and basically the game has become a bluff fest.
At the end of the day, I gave reasons and worked with reasons, Ali contradicted his own methods and also got me lynched on the basis of a bluff; I take reason over bluff any day of the week.
I do not see how the town will benefit now that the game has turned into a bluffing gambling fest. I was mafia, but unfortunately for the town, we had two gangs + a cult, and you lynched the wrong person for the wrong reasons, that's my opinion anyways; time will say if it was detrimental, beneficial, or indifferent, for the town.
It certainly is interesting at this point.
Ali_BWFC
26-03-2011, 23:58
Amateur - did you not read my above post, or are you just chosing to ignore me? I investigated you because I didn't like the way that you just went and voted for me, a good while after the voting deadline, without revealing your reasons, and it was the RIGHT choice. It is MY choice who I investigate.... I don't have to base it on much, I can (well.... could) investigate whoever the fuck I wanted... I chose you! Live with it.
You obviously don't know the meaning of the word "bluff". Bluffs are basically just lies. Obviously I didn't lie, if it got you lynched.
It takes a VERY strong person to put their arse on the line in such a way, and I am not the type.
I felt I need to take drastic action and reveal my role, in order to get you out of the game.
You seem to have extreme delusions of grandure. If we lose this game.... we won't look back on this night as the turning point and think "why oh why did we lynch our Lord and saviour, kind-hearted Amateur".
Look, this isn't doing you any good, constantly coming out with this bluff crap. Just accept that you lost, the TOWN (ie not just me and Bammers, stop singling us out because we were the first 2 to go for you) beat you.... fair and square!
I'm gonna try to clear the air here:
After you put my name forward at the end of the first day, I was annoyed, but was also suspicious about the way you did it, and why you wouldn't reveal the reasons straight away. So that effected my decision on who I should investigate. My tactic after that, was to hope I got through the night unscathed and the go in all guns blazing. I felt you were a threat because of how well you did in the last game, so I would stop at nothing to get you lynched. Because people were trusting you before that, so I couldn't let them trust a potentially powerful mafia member.
I personally think another Parkhurst member getting killed is fantastic. Because as soon as that team is defeated, we have to worry about one less lynch per night.
If Sminky will let me reveal the reason towards me losing my powers, I will. Why would I bluff that?? It makes me less of a benefit to the town now.
EDIT: I haven't bluffed at all. The facts are there to see. I came straight out and said that you were mafia, and you were. I wouldn't have been so forceful had I not been sure of it.
Dude I think I understand your perspective quite well, but I simply disagree, I do not think that after a night were two Parkhursts had been killed by random events, that another Parkhurst getting killed via a day time lynch, that's three Parkhurst gone in one night and one day; the Parkhurst Mafia is out of the picture after two nights, the Fixers Prize remain untouched after two nights, only one Cult member dead after two nights; killing yet another Parkhurst on the third day, what makes you think that's good for the town?
You obviously believe it is good so I'm not really looking for your answers, but from my perspective, you tipped the balance in favor of the Fixers Prize and in favor of the Cult, you did not tipped the balance in favor of the town, long story short, in my opinion you played for yourself, not for the town: your decision to take me down on the third day and what it cost you to take me down, it is a short term profit decision, but a long term catastrophe.
Again, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong and you could be right. I just think that you turned the game into a bluff-based gamble, rather than a reason-based gamble, and I think the bluff-based approach will be detrimental for the town and beneficial for the Fixers Prize and for the Cult.
Fair play for explaining yourself by the way, I can only agree to disagree about that, since I cannot see how the third day decision will benefit the town in the long run, it was a massive transfer of power that will not benefit the town, that's my two cents anyways.
EDIT
By the way, I still consider your actions bluff-based since you could not use reason to get me lynched, it was only when you exposed your identity that you got the lynch that you wanted; but there was no reason behind your investigation, thus why I think you investigated the wrong person for the wrong reasons.
It was fun anyways.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 00:33
Dead people can't talk, Amateur.
^ You'd be surprised.
But for real, just give that issue a rest now. The game has moved on now.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 00:36
Any mafia getting lynched is a good thig.... I can't see it as any other way. If the Parkhurst go, that means there will be one less mafia lynch per night..... simples :)
Anyway, where is Sminky?? I thought he had just nipped off to do the write up?
EDIT: Joel is back!!! The REAL Joel :D
Amateur, I just found it very suspicious the way you just jumped in and voted for me out of the blue, that was reason enough to investigate you as far as I'm concerned. After looking back at your posts, I believe I found sufficient evidence to get you lynched. Let's leave it at that.
Sorry guys for the delay. Just copying the write up from Word now.
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/jersey_shore_33.gif
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 00:45
I REALLY don't get this fascination with Jersey shore :unsure:
I REALLY don't get this fascination with Jersey shore :unsure:
I really have no clue what Jersey Shore is :erm:
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 00:47
I REALLY don't get this fascination with Jersey shore :unsure:
It's as if he wants to raise his post count, without accusing anyone. :hmm:
http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/3/3c/CT-p0001-ST.jpg
Night 3:
NI (In car): “Yep?”
Detective constable: “We’ve had a call in ...”
NI: “Go on”
DC: “A disturbance reported at Club Fixate”
NI:”Why the fuck you telling me? Its a job for Uniform.”
DC: “Possible homicide ....”
NI: “Ohhhh for fu .... ”
.............................. .............................. .............................
Club Toilets:
NI: “Well that explains alot ... and why no-one will give a statement.”
C: “Its a straight forward hit, although an inventive attempt to look like an accident.”
NI: “Heroin overdose”
C: “Indeed, he suffered severe respiratory depression from the amount ingested. Chemically induced suffocation”
NI: “We’ve never been able to pin Skag pushing from this club even though we knew from our snouts otherwise. Now this, a pusher killed with his own heroin supply. Someone either didn’t like the price he was charging or wanted a larger slice of the cake”
C: "There a good couple of kilo's here ”
NI: “No belongings have been stolen?”
C: “No. Wallet and mobile phone are in the bog pan though. Who is he?”
NI: “Goes by the name of fick, snouts say he got the name thanks to the ‘thick wedge’ of cash he made pushing skag. Urban slang, I’ll never understand it.”
PC: “Sir, theres been a ‘development’”
NI: “I’m not going to want to hear this am I?”
PC: “A headless body has been found in the DJ booth"
NI: “What is it this week with decapitation ... found the head?”
PC: “Kind of ... Its just been radioed in that a head has been mounted to a stake in the town square. Forensics are on their way to the scene to match the head to the body.”
NI: “Theres more isn’t there?”
PC: “Yeah. We’ve found another body ... “
NI: “This club is the height of popularity tonight ... does this one still have its head?”
PC: “Thats the thing sir, someone has stuck broken glass into his forehead. At first glance it appeared to be fragmentation, but when we looked closer we realised it was a deliberate arrangement.”
NI: “... Go on ...”
PC: “Its arranged to spell a word sir. It spells “FIXED””
NI: “Stab wound to the chest right?”
PC: “Yes sir”
NI: “Get the body identified immediately and get the clubbers down the station. If anyone refuses to talk have them arrested for obstructing justice. If anyone asks I’ll be back at the station in an hour”
PC: “Where should I say you’ll be sir?”
NI: “After the last three days I’ve had?! The pub!”
.............................. .............................. .............................. ............
Conclusion
[UNKNOWN] killed:
Fick, who was
- The Parkhurst Reserves mafia poisoner.
The Parkhurst Reserves made an example of Papa by mounting his head to a stake.
Papa was
- The cult leader.
Fixers Prize Killed:
Appswah, who was
- A townie
Day 4 begins
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 00:51
I was at least right about Fick being connected to Amateur!
Is that the Parkhurst down??
Who the hell killed fick??
Bammers.... you're a bastard!!! I guess you couldn't have role-blocked me then!!!! Amateur.... you were right about one person at least :laugh:
I guess this means that the cult can't recruit anymore.
What happens to the cult without their leader? Do they disintegrate?
RIP Apps, we barely new ya!
All in all, I think it was a good result.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 00:53
I completely and utterly blame Sminky for this.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the game pans out.
Bollocks.
Fucking ungrateful townie bastards. We take out Dale, regardless of role, we kill the cult leader to save your sorry arses from being inducted and for what?
Nothing.
Ungrateful slags. Don't even have the common decency to admit you killed me.
*storms off in disgust*
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 00:57
I completely and utterly blame Sminky for this.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the game pans out.
So.... were you bullshitting about the being the role blocker?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 00:57
So.... were you bullshitting about the being the role blocker?
I'm not telling you. :)
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 00:58
I'm not telling you. :)
Will you at least tell me at the end of the game?
Would I be correct in saying that this is the first time you've been eliminated early?
EDIT: Why has this "Unknown" person only made 1 kill so far?
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 00:58
A good result, yes but Fixers Prize are still fully staffed I believe. I'm guessing fick chose to poison someone but that person had some sort of role which allowed them to deflect this back onto fick. Any ideas what role this could be? I'll have a look myself too.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:01
Will you at least tell me at the end of the game?
Would I be correct in saying that this is the first time you've been eliminated early?
Oh, everything will be revealed at the end of the game. :)
EVERYTHING :) but you, Ali, can guess what's happened anyway, if you put the pieces together
I've made a horrific boo boo. It should read Papa not Bammers! :faceplm:
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:03
I've made a horrific boo boo. It should read Papa not Bammers! :faceplm:
[insert Jersey Shore gif here]
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ???
So, by Bammer's lack of defence.... I'm guessing he WAS a cult member.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:03
I've made a horrific boo boo. It should read Papa not Bammers! :faceplm:
That's what I thought. Can't believe you thought I was the cult leader ;)
Yeah :faceplm:
Sorry guys, I re-checked my logbook, it was Papa and not Bammers.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:05
So, what happens now?
Mixed bag of a result. I still don't have a clue about what Fixers Prize is. Surely the Parkhurst mafia are done/close to being done now.
EDIT so Bammers isn't the cult leader. Sneaky bastard Papa.
Smink - check mine again I don't wanna die :crymore:
I've still got half a bottle of arsenic left yet...
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:06
This is like that Australia's Top Model thing where she revealed the wrong winner!!
http://www.buzzpirates.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/austin_powers_mike_myers_as_dr _evil.jpg
So, what happens now?
Papa dies ... You live
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 01:07
Now I'm really confused. Bammers bluffing about being the role-blocker seemed to make sense but now it's Papa who was the cult leader? Back to square one. :faceplm:
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:10
Bammers postition is really under question now. Is he still a member of the cult?? He didn't protest when he got lynched..... I'm confused.
EDIT so Bammers isn't the cult leader. Sneaky bastard Papa.
You have no idea...
Bammers postition is really under question now. Is he still a member of the cult?? He didn't protest when he got lynched..... I'm confused.
Still? Bammers role has not actually been revealed.
Still? Bammers role has not actually been revealed.
I think what Ali means is that Bammers was briefly sitting in my throne/buried in my grave as leader of the cult. If I've understood correctly I think he's said 'still' to mean 'even though Sminky made a mistake calling him the cult leader, he may still be a cult member'.
Either way, you're a pair of 'cults'...
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:21
Bammers postition is really under question now. Is he still a member of the cult?? He didn't protest when he got lynched..... I'm confused.
I assumed I was dead, because Sminky had said that. However, naturally, when I saw that Sminky had put me down as the cult leader, I was confused, so I PM'd him about it and he said he'd made a mistake and wasn't sure what he was going to go.
That's why I said I blamed Sminky for it. There was no need to protest, because I didn't know what would happen, anyway. And I didn't want to question Sminky's integrity.
Either way, you're a pair of 'cults'...
Fick off.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:22
Still? Bammers role has not actually been revealed.
I'm still suspicious..... but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now, and yes, Papa is a sneaky bastardo!
I think we should put all this confusion behind us now, and focus on the task at hand. Obviously I've not been able to conduct any investigations, so there are no certainties for me. I have a few suspicions though.
EDIT: Just read your post Bammers, that's what I thought might have happened. It's why I'm willing to give you the benefit.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 01:24
Oh, everything will be revealed at the end of the game. :)
EVERYTHING :) but you, Ali, can guess what's happened anyway, if you put the pieces together
This post is confusing me. Why would Ali have been able to guess what had happened?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:25
This post is confusing me. Why would Ali have been able to guess what had happened?
He wouldn't, I don't think. Tbh I was just trying to mess with everyone :blush:
Fick off.
:laugh: Touché!
Or should that read 'touchy'? :hmm:
I think we should put all this confusion behind us now, and focus on the task at hand. Obviously I've not been able to conduct any investigations, so there are no certainties for me. I have a few suspicions though.
Damn shame. Still no idea on this Fixers Prize lark.
He wouldn't, I don't think. Tbh I was trying to mess with everyone :blush:
This isn't the time or place!
Well at least we know that 'fick's surprise' talk was all bullshit. But why would Bammers start that in the first place?.........
I think what Ali means is that Bammers was briefly sitting in my throne/buried in my grave as leader of the cult. If I've understood correctly I think he's said 'still' to mean 'even though Sminky made a mistake calling him the cult leader, he may still be a cult member'.
Ah I see ... but wouldn't the same apply if I had got Bammers mixed up with Fick? ...
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:30
For reference, a list of who's left:
Ali
Phatmann
Bammers
Bish
chelsea11
Dundons
laughin man
Meyyappan
Have I forgotten anyone?
Well at least we know that 'fick's surprise' talk was all bullshit. But why would Bammers start that in the first place?.........
I did tell you all. I can honestly say I lied to no-one during this game. :innocent:
I did tell you all. I can honestly say I lied to no-one during this game. :innocent:
You lied to our Lord, and for that you'll rightly burn in hell.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 01:33
Ali, did you say that you'd lost your investigative powers now?
And fick, thanks for poisoning me you bastard. :angry:
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:33
Just had a wee thought.... Meyyappan goes missing throughout the first part of the game, then he comes back and suddenly there's an "Unknown" making a kill? :hmm:
EDIT: Phat's - Yes I did.
Sminky... can I reveal why?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:33
This isn't the time or place!
Well at least we know that 'fick's surprise' talk was all bullshit. But why would Bammers start that in the first place?.........
Because it was a strange co-incidence and I honestly thought it might be some kind of hidden clue, which I would've kicked myself for not mentioning, had it been true.
Just had a wee thought.... Meyyappan goes missing throughout the first part of the game, then he comes back and suddenly there's an "Unknown" making a kill? :hmm:
You never know with him. He lives in his own little world. The fact that Amateur always brought his name up, who was of course mafia, tells me he might be innocent.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 01:37
Just had a wee thought.... Meyyappan goes missing throughout the first part of the game, then he comes back and suddenly there's an "Unknown" making a kill? :hmm:
EDIT: Phat's - Yes I did.
Sminky... can I reveal why?
Did you have one of those roles where you get several different roles but can only use them once, or twice in this instance? Good point about Meyyappan, although I did raise a point earlier that it may be someone deflecting a poisoning back onto fick but I guess sminky would have mentioned the "roleblock" as such, so your theory holds more water.
EDIT: The thing is Bish, this Unknown seems to not be part of Parkhurst or Fixers, so Amateur would only know that he was non-mafia.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 01:37
You never know with him. He lives in his own little world. The fact that Amateur always brought his name up, who was of course mafia, tells me he might be innocent.
Or Fixers Prize. Remember that, as far we know, Parkhurst Reserves, haven't known and if there are any left, still don't know, who's in Fixers Prize and vice versa.
EDIT: Phat, role-blockers can only block roles, they can't deflect.
You lied to our Lord, and for that you'll rightly burn in hell.
As an atheist, I find that rather amusing. Worst case scenario is I'll find out if they do 'fuck-in' hell' :smug:
And fick, thanks for poisoning me you bastard. :angry:
You're welcome. Just a shame it wasn't a strong enough dose, based on your current alive state.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:41
You never know with him. He lives in his own little world. The fact that Amateur always brought his name up, who was of course mafia, tells me he might be innocent.
I'm thinking he could be a seperate entity entirely. Either that or Fixers.
Did you have one of those roles where you get several different roles but can only use them once, or twice in this instance? Good point about Meyyappan, although I did raise a point earlier that it may be someone deflecting a poisoning back onto fick but I guess sminky would have mentioned the "roleblock" as such, so your theory holds more water.
EDIT: The thing is Bish, this Unknown seems to not be part of Parkhurst or Fixers, so Amateur would only know that he was non-mafia.
Amateur would only know that he was non-Parkhurst... not non-mafia.
No, I have one role.... but something happened (which I will reveal if Sminky gives me permission), which caused me to lose my powers.
EDIT: So I'm basically an off-duty cop :)
EDIT: Sminky (sorry to keep bothering you), can you tell us if Parkhurst are still active? They seem to have a lot of members.
Yup, Parkhurst Mafia are still active.
Yup, Parkhurst Mafia are still active.
Yeah, fuckers. You'll get yours yet *shakes fist from beyond the grave*
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 01:49
Balls! Just remembered that the clocks go forward tonight... so I'm off to bed to catch my beauty sleep.
Night.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 01:56
Or Fixers Prize. Remember that, as far we know, Parkhurst Reserves, haven't known and if there are any left, still don't know, who's in Fixers Prize and vice versa.
EDIT: Phat, role-blockers can only block roles, they can't deflect.
What I meant was that previously Sminky specified that the kills had been deflected whereas this seemed like a straight up kill.
I'm thinking he could be a seperate entity entirely. Either that or Fixers.
Amateur would only know that he was non-Parkhurst... not non-mafia.
No, I have one role.... but something happened (which I will reveal if Sminky gives me permission), which caused me to lose my powers.
EDIT: So I'm basically an off-duty cop :)
EDIT: Sminky (sorry to keep bothering you), can you tell us if Parkhurst are still active? They seem to have a lot of members.
I meant to say non-Parkhurst. What does the off duty cop role mean? Will you ever be able to investigate someone in the future or are you done?
chelsea11
27-03-2011, 05:36
So we have a good result again. An off duty cop means f*ck all to us, espcially since it must only be the Don left for Parkhurst Mafia left meaning he will show up as innocent anyway..
Meyyappan
27-03-2011, 06:51
Down to eight now,dundons hmmmmmm
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 13:09
What I meant was that previously Sminky specified that the kills had been deflected whereas this seemed like a straight up kill.
I meant to say non-Parkhurst. What does the off duty cop role mean? Will you ever be able to investigate someone in the future or are you done?
There is no off duty role specifically, it's just a way I would describe myself. My investigating days are gone... actually you could say I'm a retired cop.
So we have a good result again. An off duty cop means f*ck all to us, espcially since it must only be the Don left for Parkhurst Mafia left meaning he will show up as innocent anyway..
I'm not completely redundant.... I'm still a townie afterall.
Now I will try and give a few reasons to suspect each person left in the game:
Bammers - Said he role-blocked me, when in actual fact I was able to use my role that night, to investigate Amateur. This may be a timing issue, but it still has to be mentioned. Also, all that nonsense that happened last night was clearly a mistake by Sminky, but why did he put Bammers' name down?
Meyyappan - Like I've mentioned before.... he doesn't post for ages, then suddenly he comes back and we have an "Unknown" making a kill at night. For this reason he is my no.1 suspect.
Bishop - Hard to get a real read on Bish, he doesn't say a lot in his posts. This is how he was behaving the the first game, when he was mafia. So it's something to be wary of. Also, he voted straight after cult leader Papa. Coincidence or not?
Dundon's - Again, posting a few minutes after Papa. Another one who doesn't say much to benefit the town. I had my reasons for suspecting him (and voting him) in the 2nd day... but I've forgotten them.
chelsea11 - Was the first person to really jump on Billy, then Billy get's lynched by the mafia at night.... odd.
Phatmann - Was his role announced when he first got lynched? Also, why was Phatmann chosen in particular? I guess there could be an outside chance of him being the "Unknown".
laughin man - Amateur was very quick to defend him, and likewise, he was ver quick to defend Amateur. Although he did vote for him in the end, this could all be a ploy to try and distance himself.
Ali_BWFC - No reason to suspect this guy. He's absolutely awesome :cool:
Just to chuck the cat amongst the pigeons ... we have role blockers in the game who CAN deflect attacks either back at the assailant or at a random player.
Much love :)
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 13:34
Just to chuck the cat amongst the pigeons ... we have role blockers in the game who CAN deflect attacks either back at the assailant or at a random player.
Much love :)
I think enough cats have been thrown! So many that they outnumber the pigeons! Stop throwing cats!
http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad242/chimaera2009/GIFS/catlady.gif
Just to chuck the cat amongst the pigeons ... we have role blockers in the game who CAN deflect attacks either back at the assailant or at a random player.
Much love :)
Yeah, I kinda found that out the hard way... :serial:
6 votes need for a majority vote tonight by the way ...
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 13:39
Ali, I actually know why Bammers name was put down and all I can say is that he isn't Parkhurst Mafia. The role-blocking being a bluff seemed to make sense though so I'm leaning more towards him being Fixers Prize as that would mean "Fick's Surprise" was a rather clever curveball, which got most of us. I don't think I'd be willing to go as far as lynching him at this time though as I'm only leaning towards that idea rather than being 100% on it. As you say, the roleblocking could still have been a timing issue so it'd help if he told us the exact time he sent Sminky the PM.
I agree that Meyyappan is a bit dodgy, even more so now that he's just dropped Dundon's name out of the blue without any real reason.
I'm not sure on the rest as they all seem partly suspicious to me but haven't said a lot so it's hard to get a real read on them.
EDIT: 6?!? I thought it was 5.3333 a.k.a. 5?
EDIT: 6?!? I thought it was 5.3333 a.k.a. 5?
I like even numbers :)
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 13:50
That means we'll need 75% of people left to vote for one person. There's no chance we're gonna get that. We'd be lucky if we just get 6 of the people online for the lynching to be honest as a lot of those who remain haven't posted too often and Sundays aren't very busy on here, especially on a weekend where there's barely any football.
If I had to choose my main suspect at this time it would probably be chelsea11. His posting style/content seems quite similar to me to what fick was doing and I can't remember many times he's been heavily involved during the final moments of a lynch. In fact, he hasn't voted at all yet, much like fick didn't.
laughin man, I'm leaning towards him being townie. There was a bit of understanding between him and Amateur but that could've been because the latter was trying to play him to avoid suspicion from someone he's knows is innocent (bit like what laughin man did to me in MWII).
Is it still day time by the way?
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 13:53
Ali, I actually know why Bammers name was put down and all I can say is that he isn't Parkhurst Mafia. The role-blocking being a bluff seemed to make sense though so I'm leaning more towards him being Fixers Prize as that would mean "Fick's Surprise" was a rather clever curveball, which got most of us. I don't think I'd be willing to go as far as lynching him at this time though as I'm only leaning towards that idea rather than being 100% on it. As you say, the roleblocking could still have been a timing issue so it'd help if he told us the exact time he sent Sminky the PM.
I agree that Meyyappan is a bit dodgy, even more so now that he's just dropped Dundon's name out of the blue without any real reason.
I'm not sure on the rest as they all seem partly suspicious to me but haven't said a lot so it's hard to get a real read on them.
EDIT: 6?!? I thought it was 5.3333 a.k.a. 5?
I was actually leaning towards him (Bammers) being cult, rather than mafia, but.....hmmmmm, the fick's suprise thing you mention is interesting.
What about yourself? Can you answer the questions I've posed about you?
That means we'll need 75% of people left to vote for one person. There's no chance we're gonna get that. We'd be lucky if we just get 6 of the people online for the lynching to be honest as a lot of those who remain haven't posted too often and Sundays aren't very busy on here, especially on a weekend where there's barely any football.
Well on reflection then, if it is going to be a quiet one, 5 votes it is. I was hoping to encourage more people to post and vote but if its going to be a dead day no point I guess :happy:
Is it still day time by the way?
Indeed it is.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 13:58
I was actually leaning towards him (Bammers) being cult, rather than mafia, but.....hmmmmm, the fick's suprise thing you mention is interesting.
What about yourself? Can you answer the questions I've posed about you?
My role was not announced as I have been able to reprise it upon being reborn. The role didn't have much effect on the first night but last night it did which confirmed to me that Bammers isn't Parkhurst. He could be cult as you said but I think there is only one cult member left who can't recruit anyone so at the moment I'm guessing the cult are rather harmless. I am not the Unknown.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 14:07
Ali, I actually know why Bammers name was put down and all I can say is that he isn't Parkhurst Mafia. The role-blocking being a bluff seemed to make sense though so I'm leaning more towards him being Fixers Prize as that would mean "Fick's Surprise" was a rather clever curveball, which got most of us. I don't think I'd be willing to go as far as lynching him at this time though as I'm only leaning towards that idea rather than being 100% on it. As you say, the roleblocking could still have been a timing issue so it'd help if he told us the exact time he sent Sminky the PM.
I'm the townie role-blocker, otherwise why would I have called Ali out about Amateur? If I was in Fixers Prize, it would make no sense for me to contradict Ali, just as he was about to get rid of a none-Fixers Prize person.
Also, surely the Fick's surprise thing would be a rather silly thing for me to say, if I was in Fixers Prize, because as soon as Fick got killed, people would see that it wasn't true? There'd be no need for me to take such a risk.
Anyway, onto who we should lynch today. Here are the people still in:
Ali
Phatmann
Bammers
Bish
chelsea11
Dundons
laughin man
Meyyappan
Out of those 8, I'd guess there can only be 1 Parkhurst Reserves member left, then 2/3 Fixers Prize members, 4/5 townies and, possibly, 1 cult member left.
Therefore, I think it's pretty important that we get the last remaining Parkhurst Reserves member out, so that we don't run the risk of losing 2 townies during the night.
And I'm pretty certain I know who that last Parkhurst Reserves: Dundon's and here's why:
- Although he hasn't posted often, the content of his posts is always the same - he never accuses people and only chooses to defend himself from time to time
- He said he'd be willing to go with any majority lynching, regardless of who it was and the reasons behind the lynching
- When I first accused him, Joel defended him to the hilt - Joel was a member of Parkhurst Reserves
- Amateur also defended him to the hilt - Amateur was a member of Parkhurst Reserves
- He did vote for Amateur, but only after Ali had effectively signed Amateur's death warrant by saying he was the cop and he was also the 6th person to vote, I think, so this could just have been his way of him covering himself.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 14:18
I was suspicious of Dundon's but Meyyappan dropping his name made me unsure. If Meyyappan is the Unknown then it would make sense as he could pretty much have brought up anyones name if he is a lone ranger. But why Dundon's? Trying to get into the mind of Meyyappan may be a little tricky, admittedly. :lol:
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 14:20
My role was not announced as I have been able to reprise it upon being reborn. The role didn't have much effect on the first night but last night it did which confirmed to me that Bammers isn't Parkhurst. He could be cult as you said but I think there is only one cult member left who can't recruit anyone so at the moment I'm guessing the cult are rather harmless. I am not the Unknown.
I'm willing to leave you for the time being. Since Football777 was a townie (I think), when he left, I think it would be unfair to replace him with another mafia member.
Bammers - The reasons you suspect Dundon's to be Parkhurst are the very same reasons I suspect laughin man to be Parkhurst (well, particularly the whole Amateur defence). I only think one of them will be. I DO think Dundon's is mafia, just not Parkhurst.... could be wrong though.
Where do you stand on laughin man, Bammers?
EDIT: Phats - yeah that Meyyappan comment was odd. I don't know what to think of it.
EDIT: Phats - yeah that Meyyappan comment was odd. I don't know what to think of it.
Do you ever know what to think of Meyyappan's posts?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 14:33
Where do you stand on laughin man, Bammers?
As I've said before, he's a tricky one. I do think he's got some kind of special role, which he could use when he died, as he doesn't seem too resistant to the idea of being lynched. On the other hand, his overly aggressive defence of Amateur was a bit strange, but there did seem to be some logic behind it tbf. Looking back over his own posts, I was amused to see him say this to you:
You pointed me back to your own post I read it and its full of shit, you have lost my respect completely and I will not back you up on anything you plan to do from here to the end of this game. This is all a defensive ploy because Amateur mentioned your name, theres no more substance to it than that.
It's interesting to see how he changed his tune after you said you were the cop - perhaps he was worried about you investigating him that night, because he had something to hide.
So overall, it's hard to say on Laughin Man. I wouldn't be against lynching him, if only to find out this special role, but, on the other hand, I can't be sure he's mafia and, therefore, there are others, like Dundon's, who I'm certain are mafia, who I think we should lynch first.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 14:40
With regards to laughin man being worried about me investigating him.... if I did do it, it would only come back whether he is mafia or not, not what actual role he has.
The interesting thing is, when I revealed I was the cop, he actually said I should investigate HIM, to prove he was a townie. Now, did he actually want me to investigate him, or was he just saying it? Surely a townie wouldn't want the cop to waste an investigation on someone who he knew was a definite townie. Which makes me think that he said it so I wouldn't investigate him. It's some interesting logic.... but it makes sense in my head. It's reverse psychology, basically.
Like you, though, I do believe Dundon's is mafia. I wouldn't argue against lynching him.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 14:44
So that's 2 of us willing to lynch Dundon's.
Phat, Bish, Laughin Man, Chelsea11 and Meyyappan, your thoughts on lynching Dundon's?
chelsea11
27-03-2011, 14:48
Reading through your reasoning for Dundons, and having read it previously about him, I'm starting to come round to your thinking. Unless he can sway my opinion, I'm on board for the lynch.
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 15:06
I think I would be up for a Dundon's lynching as I believe him to be a non-townie and it's going to be hard to drum up support for anyone else to be lynched at this time.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 15:32
That's very eager of you Phatmann... but sod it, no point beating around the bush. I'll put my vote in now, but I am flexible..... unlike the last time :D
Bammers
Ali
Dundon's
Chelsea11
Meyyappan
TheBishop
Phatmann
Laughin' Man
Dead Townies:
Football777
- Townie
- Left game
Appswah
- Townie (Nexus)
- Killed by Fixers Prize
Dead Mafia:
Joel
- Parkhurst Reserves (Janitor)
- Killed (Randomly) by Roleblock Night 2
Smudger
- Parkhurst Reserves (Assassin)
- Killed (Randomly) by Roleblock Night 2
Amateur
- Parkhurst Reserves
- Killed by majority vote Day 3
Fick
- Parkhurst Reserves (Poisoner)
- Killed by (UNKNOWN) Night 3
Dead 3rd Parties:
Billy Minof
- Serial Killer
- Killed by Fixers Prize Night 1
Dale C.
- Unknown
- Killed by The Parkhurst Reserves Night 1
Hunter
- Cult
- Killed by The Parkhurst Reserves Day 2
Papa
- Cult Leader
- Killed by The Parkhurst Reserves Night 3
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 15:36
Could you tell us whether Hunter had a role before he was recruited?
Just looking at that Nexus role, sounds... interesting.
Could you tell us whether Hunter had a role before he was recruited?
Just looking at that Nexus role, sounds... interesting.
You know I'm not going to answer that Ali :)
Just looking at that Nexus role, sounds... interesting.
What is it?
Phatmann
27-03-2011, 15:45
That's very eager of you Phatmann... but sod it, no point beating around the bush. I'll put my vote in now, but I am flexible..... unlike the last time :D
We still need to convince one more person to lynch Dundon's and it'll be a bit risky leaving it to the last minute so I thought it'd be best for us to put our votes in as soon as possible. Hopefully one of Bish, Laughin Man or Meyyappan will come on and vote.
What is it?
You become Wade Barrett.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7307/townienexus.jpgWhat is it?
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 15:54
That role sounds a bit confusing. Like, if I had investigate the Nexus, and it randomly targetted Amateur... would the investigation come back "Amateur is mafia", or would the result come in and just say "mafia", not revealing that my investigation had been deflected, making me think that Apps was mafia, when he wasn't? It's just a thought, because it doesn't explain that in the rules.
That role sounds a bit confusing. Like, if I had investigate the Nexus, and it randomly targetted Amateur... would the investigation come back "Amateur is mafia", or would the result come in and just say "mafia", not revealing that my investigation had been deflected, making me think that Apps was mafia, when he wasn't? It's just a thought, because it doesn't explain that in the rules.
Any attempt to investigate the Nexus would be blocked. I won't go into too much detail as it will spoil it if it happens next game.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 16:05
Just looking at all the roles. There's still quite a few that we've yet to touch. I'm sure you could make up your own roles too.
Just looking at all the roles. There's still quite a few that we've yet to touch. I'm sure you could make up your own roles too.
I've already started looking into that.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 16:18
Well it looks like I'm getting gang raped tonight, pity as the town is doing so well in this one.
I love the way Bam and Ali have practically played you all like sheep and that how both of them are completely dictating the way the game is going. If I was bloody Mafia why would I of put the nail in Amateur? People say he was doomed but it was a long way away when I voted for him and if I unvoted at any stage I could of saved him.
The bottom line is there's something called Fixers prize and it's demolishing the place, the mafia are finished aside from one member who I suspect to be Mayapapan because all his posts are calling for blood, him name dropping me again brought me back into the lime light. If I was mafia I'd of tried tooth n nail to clear myself everytime I was mentioned but I haven't. Why? Because I got a boring role at the very start and hadn't the enthusiasm to go at this one full pelt.
May
Ali
Bam
These are the trouble makers as far as I can see, if the town is short one vote to lynch me by tonight I'll vote for myself even, just to prove my point.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 16:24
May
Ali
Bam
These are the trouble makers as far as I can see, if the town is short one vote to lynch me by tonight I'll vote for myself even, just to prove my point.
:laugh: So the people who have accused you are the ones you're suspicious of eh? Where have I seen that before? :hmm:
laughin man
27-03-2011, 17:00
It's interesting to see how he changed his tune after you said you were the cop - perhaps he was worried about you investigating him that night, because he had something to hide.
All he had to say is he was the cop and he had my full support, instead all I had to go on was him trying to explain how he knew with lies about suspicion. I can smell a rat a mile off and in this case I was correct about him talking shit.
With regards to laughin man being worried about me investigating him.... if I did do it, it would only come back whether he is mafia or not, not what actual role he has.
The interesting thing is, when I revealed I was the cop, he actually said I should investigate HIM, to prove he was a townie. Now, did he actually want me to investigate him, or was he just saying it? Surely a townie wouldn't want the cop to waste an investigation on someone who he knew was a definite townie. Which makes me think that he said it so I wouldn't investigate him. It's some interesting logic.... but it makes sense in my head. It's reverse psychology, basically.
I wanted you to investigate me because im not afraid of the mafia you would have given the town a man they know is definitely town. It would never have been a waste.
I'm not convinced Dundon's is mafia, but we need to start breaking up the cult, which could be anyone. How long do we have to decide?
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 17:11
:laugh: So the people who have accused you are the ones you're suspicious of eh? Where have I seen that before? :hmm:
You really are playing a blinder here in this one kid, but the more I look back on things now the more I am inclined to believe you aren't PRO town and could be in fact the element known as "fixers Prize". The play on words you discovered linking Fick to the role was genius I'll give you that much but it's only when the dust settles things like these come to light.
Your whole argument for me getting lynched is like a giant fairytale you dreamed up, for I haven't been active enough to pin anything on me let alone support your claims.
Yes I am coming back at you Ali and May, you are the ring leaders behind this lynching, I trusted Ali and gave him Kudos for the Amateur case but once he turned on me I knew he was dodgy. His report back on Smudger was wrong and had I of noticed this prior to today I would of never support the lynching of Amateur, it just happened to be lucky that he guessed correctly.
Finishing on Mayapapan, I'm just throwing this accusation at him because there's one thing I know, when you are town and people start looking for your head you have to be suspicious of them.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 17:11
Well it looks like I'm getting gang raped tonight, pity as the town is doing so well in this one.
I love the way Bam and Ali have practically played you all like sheep and that how both of them are completely dictating the way the game is going. If I was bloody Mafia why would I of put the nail in Amateur? People say he was doomed but it was a long way away when I voted for him and if I unvoted at any stage I could of saved him.
The bottom line is there's something called Fixers prize and it's demolishing the place, the mafia are finished aside from one member who I suspect to be Mayapapan because all his posts are calling for blood, him name dropping me again brought me back into the lime light. If I was mafia I'd of tried tooth n nail to clear myself everytime I was mentioned but I haven't. Why? Because I got a boring role at the very start and hadn't the enthusiasm to go at this one full pelt.
May
Ali
Bam
These are the trouble makers as far as I can see, if the town is short one vote to lynch me by tonight I'll vote for myself even, just to prove my point.
Trouble maker? I got one of the mafia lynched.... how is that making trouble? I got him lynched based on facts.... ie that I knew he was mafia. I'm not saying people should just follow me (or Bammers for that matter) to lynch you. I've said a few times in Mafia Wars, that we don't want to be sheep, that's what keeps making the town lose. Like I'm said, I am willing to change my vote away from you, if I see a better option. People can make their own decisions here.
Also, you congratulated me on getting Amateur lynched..... now you're saying I'm trouble just for suspecting you?
All he had to say is he was the cop and he had my full support, instead all I had to go on was him trying to explain how he knew with lies about suspicion. I can smell a rat a mile off and in this case I was correct about him talking shit.
I wanted you to investigate me because im not afraid of the mafia you would have given the town a man they know is definitely town. It would never have been a waste.
When I went back to look at Amateur's posts, I felt he had been suspicious with his "vampireness", in that he kept talking, trying to get other people to do his bidding (such as gunning for the quiet ones), but he took no action.... in order to keep himself above suspicion. I felt it was very odd that you defended him so much, especially when he reacted to mine (and Bammers) suspicions with aggression.
EDIT: So how were you correct about me "talking shit"??
EDIT: On smudger.... I was told that my investigation was right "at the time", ie he wasn't mafia when I investigated him.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 17:17
Also, you congratulated me on getting Amateur lynched..... now you're saying I'm trouble just for suspecting you?
Yes I did but now here you are gathering the troops trying to lynch me. :mellow:
For the record can you please explain and clear up what happened regards you and the Smudger case?
P.S. Yes I am posting more because my head is on the block and no it doesn't mean I am Mafia, it means I will be out of the game and loose out on been part of a historical victory for the town if I get lynched.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 17:31
Yes I did but now here you are gathering the troops trying to lynch me. :mellow:
For the record can you please explain and clear up what happened regards you and the Smudger case?
P.S. Yes I am posting more because my head is on the block and no it doesn't mean I am Mafia, it means I will be out of the game and loose out on been part of a historical victory for the town if I get lynched.
I'm NOT trying to gather troops. It's not like last time when I was certain Amateur was mafia, I am willing to change my mind this time, if people are able to persuade me.
I don't know how much info I can give you on smudger. I investigated him in the first night and was told he was innocent (ie just NOT mafia, his role wasn't revealed). So I was obviously surprised when he turned out to be the mafia assassin. I questioned the Man Upstairs about it, all he said was that smudger was "innocent at the time". So maybe there is a stipulation in his game role which meant that before he made his kill (ie Hunter), he would show up as innocent. That's all I know, I'm afraid.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 17:36
Hmmm this is a very ropey story son and makes no sense what so ever to me, however for the moment you are claiming to be a Cop and if this is the truth then how do we not assume you are in fact a Naive cop? This role is so dangerous your results are likely to get anyone killed if the result is random. This might no even be the case but I am trying to make sense of your statement and this is the only solution that springs to mind.
I do not wish to question your integrity but when the cop comes out calling for an innocent man to be hung drawn and quartered alarm bells go off.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 17:54
Hmmm this is a very ropey story son and makes no sense what so ever to me, however for the moment you are claiming to be a Cop and if this is the truth then how do we not assume you are in fact a Naive cop? This role is so dangerous your results are likely to get anyone killed if the result is random. This might no even be the case but I am trying to make sense of your statement and this is the only solution that springs to mind.
I do not wish to question your integrity but when the cop comes out calling for an innocent man to be hung drawn and quartered alarm bells go off.
The Naive Cop always gets innocent results. I know it makes no sense. Trust me when I say I still don't know what went on with smudger. It's something I want to badger Sminky about at the end of the game.
How can I trust you when you say you're innocent? I have no way of knowing for sure either way, I'm swaying towards you being mafia. Don't forget, I've lost my powers now, so I couldn't possibly know whether you're telling the truth on being innocent.
Like I've said, my main suspect is Meyyappan. But you're also on my radar. If more people want to vote for Mey than you, I'd be happy to go along, I think you're both guilty.
Oh, and to quote Football777..... "Don't call me son!!" :laugh:
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 18:03
Like I've said, my main suspect is Meyyappan. But you're also on my radar. If more people want to vote for Mey than you, I'd be happy to go along, I think you're both guilty.
:huh:
How can we both be guilty when there's obviously at most one Mafia member left?
How come you haven't even addressed my theory on Bammers being Fixers Surprise? If you look at the posts he's making they're way over the top compared to the last game for him and this makes me believe he has a major role in this game. Similar to how you posted a lot more given your supposed role as a cop.
I'm not nor in past games been one to jump on bandwagons when it comes to a lynching but did so in this game to give my full support to the town on lynching Amateur and despite the spin Bam put on it I voted extremely early on in the day when a lynching was still a long way off.
Amateur dropping my name in every other post put a lot of unwanted heat on me aswell and if you read back carefully through them you'll see he was cleverly leaving a lot of question marks over my head.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 18:19
:huh:
How can we both be guilty when there's obviously at most one Mafia member left?
How come you haven't even addressed my theory on Bammers being Fixers Surprise? If you look at the posts he's making they're way over the top compared to the last game for him and this makes me believe he has a major role in this game. Similar to how you posted a lot more given your supposed role as a cop.
I'm not nor in past games been one to jump on bandwagons when it comes to a lynching but did so in this game to give my full support to the town on lynching Amateur and despite the spin Bam put on it I voted extremely early on in the day when a lynching was still a long way off.
Amateur dropping my name in every other post put a lot of unwanted heat on me aswell and if you read back carefully through them you'll see he was cleverly leaving a lot of question marks over my head.
Well, I've posted a lot because I've survived longer :laugh:
I think Fixer's Prize ARE mafia.... just a smaller group (judging by the numbers we have left). I don't think Bammers is Fixers prize because of his actions in the last daytime. Basically, he said he role-blocked me, so I couldn't have investigated Amateur the night before. But I did. So, why would he put this potential hitch into a lynching of a rival mafia member if he was in a rival mafia (or any other type of) gang? He'd keep his mouth shut about it, wouldn't he? This is why I think he is working for the town.
Unlike Bammers, I don't think you are Parkhurst, I actually think you are Fixers. So Amateur would still have a right to name drop you. Anyway, wasn't Amateur saying that he prevented a "witch hunt" against you?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 18:25
You really are playing a blinder here in this one kid, but the more I look back on things now the more I am inclined to believe you aren't PRO town and could be in fact the element known as "fixers Prize". The play on words you discovered linking Fick to the role was genius I'll give you that much but it's only when the dust settles things like these come to light.
As I've said before, it was simply a strange co-incidence, which I happened to stumble across and I felt that, as a townie, it was only right that I brought such a co-incidence to the town's attention. If it had turned out to mean something, then it would have been epic. If I was Fixers Prize, do you seriously think I'd mention such a thing, in the knowledge that when Fick did get killed, it'd incriminate me?
It's, also, interesting that Amateur tried to pin the whole Fixers Prize thing on me too. Perhaps, you and he had been discussing it. :hmm:
Your whole argument for me getting lynched is like a giant fairytale you dreamed up, for I haven't been active enough to pin anything on me let alone support your claims.
As I've said before, it's not the lack of posts that have made me so supicious, it's the content of your posts. You've never taken risks and have only posted in order to defend yourself, or even just to get your post count up. In addition, when I suggested lynching you, you were defended by Amateur and Joel - both Parkhurst Reserves members.
Yes I am coming back at you Ali and May, you are the ring leaders behind this lynching, I trusted Ali and gave him Kudos for the Amateur case but once he turned on me I knew he was dodgy. His report back on Smudger was wrong and had I of noticed this prior to today I would of never support the lynching of Amateur, it just happened to be lucky that he guessed correctly.
I still find it funny that you're only accusing the people who've accused you - just like Amateur. Surely if your lack of time spent here has stopped you from being able to draw enough conclusions to lynch people, then surely you shouldn't be accusing us either?
Finishing on Mayapapan, I'm just throwing this accusation at him because there's one thing I know, when you are town and people start looking for your head you have to be suspicious of them.
Not really. And besides, I'm not entirely sure anyone takes Meyyappan's accusations seriously btw.
I'd also just like to point out that for someone who claims not to have had the enthusiasm to read much of this thread, you certainly seem to know of a lot of the 'events' which have happened so far. This leads me to believe that either a) you're lying about having not been around enough to post or b) you haven't been here and someone's been telling you what's happened and who to accuse of what :hmm:
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 18:31
I completely and utterly blame Sminky for this.
It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the game pans out.
If he was town he would not of acted like this and go off as if something BIG has been fudged up, this could be the first real solid clue as in regards to this whole fixers prize dilemma.
Oh, everything will be revealed at the end of the game. :)
EVERYTHING!!!
I mean what the hell is this??? And how is this not the center of today's investigations?
I would Luv it if Bammers came out and explained himself, Luv it!!!
http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/japan.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/05/keeganrant_450x300.jpg
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 18:39
If he was town he would not of acted like this and go off as if something BIG has been fudged up, this could be the first real solid clue as in regards to this whole fixers prize dilemma.
As I've explained before, when the result came out and I saw that Sminky had said that I was the cult leader, the first thing I did was PM him to find out what on earth was going on, he replied that he'd made mistake and wasn't sure what was he was going to do. That's why I said I blamed Sminky.
I mean what the hell is this??? And how is this not the center of today's investigations?
I would Luv it if Bammers came out and explained himself, Luv it!!!
http://cdn.worldcupblog.org/japan.worldcupblog.org/files/2010/05/keeganrant_450x300.jpg
I assumed I was dead, but only because Sminky had mucked up. I presumed he was gonna reveal his mistake at the end of the game, so I played along to spare his blushes. What else is there to say?
It looks to me Dundon's like you're just dredging through this thread to try and find incriminating evidence against me. Strange how you're only willing to do this once your neck's on the line and yet, when you're in a position relative safety, you do nothing to help the town and are content to let the game drift by, as long as you remain undetected. :hmm:
laughin man
27-03-2011, 18:43
EDIT: So how were you correct about me "talking shit"??
You were talking bollocks about your reasons for suspecting him, you were so sure because you knew what he was through your role.
I'm not convinced Dundon's is mafia, but we need to start breaking up the cult, which could be anyone. How long do we have to decide?
Im not sure about Dundons either no one has really given him much love hes been suspected from the start without even doing much. My theory about him being Cult leader is now null and void.
Anyway the cult leader is dead so they cant recruit and I believe theres a maximum of two left, I believe finding the last Parkhurst should be our priority as that will reduce the amount of free shots the Mafia has on us.
Im mostly thinking about this "new" unknown kill, the players that have just become active are Papa and Meyyapan its very suspicious as I dont believe in coincidence.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 18:48
As I've explained before, when the result came out and I saw that Sminky had said that I was the cult leader, the first thing I did was PM him to find out what on earth was going on, he replied that he'd made mistake and wasn't sure what was he was going to do. That's why I said I blamed Sminky.
I assumed I was dead, but only because Sminky had mucked up. I presumed he was gonna reveal his mistake at the end of the game, so I played along to spare his blushes. What else is there to say?
It looks to me Dundon's like you're just dredging through this thread to try and find incriminating evidence against me. Strange how you're only willing to do this once your neck's on the line and yet, when you're in a position relative safety, you do nothing to help the town and are content to let the game drift by, as long as you remain undetected. :hmm:
Anybody in my situation now would be pleading their case, this is totally irrelevant to my status. Did you just expect me to bow out of this game without fighting my corner?, you're practically giving me a guilty verdict now on the basis that I am defending myself.
Madness to anyone with half a brain.
You can come out here and play down everything you posted but it's only going to get you so far in this game and after people discover I am town you Sir are in major trouble and have a lot of explaining to do.
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 18:50
You were talking bollocks about your reasons for suspecting him, you were so sure because you knew what he was through your role.
As I've said, after I found out he was mafia, I had to try and come up with a way of getting him lynched without having to tell everyone I was a cop. I went and looked at his posts, to see if there was anything I could find, and there was certain "mafia-like" behaviour from what I could see. You know, typical talk, no action (ie saying we should do this and that without actually doing anything about it). People were starting to come around to the idea, it was only when you and Amateur were being so aggressive with your responses that I decided to come clear.
Put it this way, what would you have done if you were the cop and you found out that someone was mafia? Would you have just come out and say "I am the cop" straight away? I doubt it.
It was my goal to get rid of Amateur, I would have rather done it without revealing my role.
laughin man
27-03-2011, 18:58
As I've said, after I found out he was mafia, I had to try and come up with a way of getting him lynched without having to tell everyone I was a cop. I went and looked at his posts, to see if there was anything I could find, and there was certain "mafia-like" behaviour from what I could see. You know, typical talk, no action (ie saying we should do this and that without actually doing anything about it). People were starting to come around to the idea, it was only when you and Amateur were being so aggressive with your responses that I decided to come clear.
Put it this way, what would you have done if you were the cop and you found out that someone was mafia? Would you have just come out and say "I am the cop" straight away? I doubt it.
It was my goal to get rid of Amateur, I would have rather done it without revealing my role.
You totally done the right thing coming forward but you cant hold it against me for not believing you when you said it yourself you were making up reasons. I didnt believe your lies but when the truth came out I glady helped and even apologized.
The only pity is you lost your role you would have been invaluable to us.
Going back to the matter with Dundons, I dont believe him to be Mafia but I know the guy I had the opportunity to look him in the eye so id really like to take a back seat on that argument now.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 19:19
Going from what Ali is saying I am willing to go out on a limb again and support him being the cop, there's a small bit of confusion but if we put that to the side and give him the benefit of the doubt his story does hold some water and we can build off that.
I think whoever the fixers prize is now must be laughing his bollox off at us the rest of us cutting each others throats while he/they remain a mystery though out the entire game.
As for the cult members? I don't know if they can realistically win now due to lack of recruitment, but there has to be at least 1 more of them doing the rounds along with whatever Mafia is left.
This game is a true puzzle for sure.
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 19:22
Anybody in my situation now would be pleading their case, this is totally irrelevant to my status. Did you just expect me to bow out of this game without fighting my corner?, you're practically giving me a guilty verdict now on the basis that I am defending myself.
Madness to anyone with half a brain.
You can come out here and play down everything you posted but it's only going to get you so far in this game and after people discover I am town you Sir are in major trouble and have a lot of explaining to do.
I have nothing wrong with you 'pleading your case' - in fact I'd be surprised if you didn't plead your case. My problem is with how you did it. You offered poor and unconvincing arguments in regards to my reasons for suspecting you and, then, as a last throw of the dice, you tried take the attention of you by blaming the people who had accused you in the first place - a blatant mafia ploy. It's so obvious that you're mafia and, if you're not, then I'll take the hit, but I doubt it'll come to that, because I'd be amazed if you're a townie.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 19:27
Here you go again with the same reverse tactics, I am calling you out on the fixers prize and aside from brushing the whole thing under the carpet you are more or less sticking with the plan of getting me lynched.
I would go as far as saying that if I was Mafia there is no way on this earth you could know that as despite how you read my previous posts I know in my heart that there was no malice in them, I know this because I fully understand what the PM sminky sent to me said.
I have nothing to hide, period! And am surprised how you have got away at being so upfront in this battle. I don't know if you have Mafia connections but you sure as hell have a silver tongue when it comes to stitching a fella up.
There are a minimum of 3 villains left, the only real question here is which one of them are you?
Im not sure about Dundons either no one has really given him much love hes been suspected from the start without even doing much. My theory about him being Cult leader is now null and void.
Anyway the cult leader is dead so they cant recruit and I believe theres a maximum of two left, I believe finding the last Parkhurst should be our priority as that will reduce the amount of free shots the Mafia has on us.
Im mostly thinking about this "new" unknown kill, the players that have just become active are Papa and Meyyapan its very suspicious as I dont believe in coincidence.
I honestly didn't know that so if that is true, then yes lynching the next/last Parkhurst member should be the priority. I suspect someone else more than Dundon's for that role.
Papa is already dead isn't he?
Bammers05
27-03-2011, 19:37
Here you go again with the same reverse tactics, I am calling you out on the fixers prize and aside from brushing the whole thing under the carpet you are more or less sticking with the plan of getting me lynched.
Well, I gave you an answer for the Fixers Prize thing:
As I've said before, it was simply a strange co-incidence, which I happened to stumble across and I felt that, as a townie, it was only right that I brought such a co-incidence to the town's attention. If it had turned out to mean something, then it would have been epic. If I was Fixers Prize, do you seriously think I'd mention such a thing, in the knowledge that when Fick did get killed, it'd incriminate me?
It's, also, interesting that Amateur tried to pin the whole Fixers Prize thing on me too. Perhaps, you and he had been discussing it. :hmm:
Not exactly 'brushing it under the carpet'. It's funny how you're so quick to jump on me for the Fixers Prize thing, when your under threat, but if I hadn't accused you, you wouldn't be saying anything and would continue to sneak by, unnoticed, without taking risks or trying to help the town. Seems pretty mafia-ish to me.
I would go as far as saying that if I was Mafia there is no way on this earth you could know that as despite how you read my previous posts I know in my heart that there was no malice in them, I know this because I fully understand what the PM sminky sent to me said.
I never said there was any malice in your posts. I only said that your posts either contain nothing to do with the game or are defending yourself. There are no accusations and, therefore, no risks, however.
I have nothing to hide, period! And am surprised how you have got away at being so upfront in this battle. I don't know if you have Mafia connections but you sure as hell have a silver tongue when it comes to stitching a fella up.
I'm 'upfront', because I want the town to win and I want mafia members to be lynched, and when I'm sure someone's in the mafia, I want to make sure theyy get lynched.
Dundon's
27-03-2011, 19:40
Papa is already dead isn't he?
Aye, Papa is gone. How the hell has no one followed that up? Let ask ourselves who might be the 1st/2nd person in the game he would chance to join his cult? I am not too aware as to who he is best mates with on here but that would be a start.
P.S. Yes I am on a mission today to save my bacon, kinda sorry now I didn't post more earlier on in the game but today I am in front of a blazing fire with fuck all planned. Getting lynched is the most exciting thing that happened to me since it started. :laugh:
Ali_BWFC
27-03-2011, 19:40
I honestly didn't know that so if that is true, then yes lynching the next/last Parkhurst member should be the priority. I suspect someone else more than Dundon's for that role.
Papa is already dead isn't he?
Of course he is, he's the cult leader.... but maybe you already know that :hmm:
Anywho, all a cult member can do is try and win the game for the cult by eliminating everyone else. They can't recruit. I don't really see one lone cult member (can you even call it a cult with just one member??) being much of a threat, unless he has a deadly ability which he can use. Like Bish says, we need to focus on Parkhurst.
Of course he is, he's the cult leader.... but maybe you already know that :hmm:
Anywho, all a cult member can do is try and win the game for the cult by eliminating everyone else. They can't recruit. I don't really see one lone cult member (can you even call it a cult with just one member??) being much of a threat, unless he has a deadly ability which he can use. Like Bish says, we need to focus on Parkhurst.
I know Papa was the cult leader. It was just laughin man was talking like he was still alive.
I'm just gonna come out and say I suspect chelsea11 more than Dundon's. Purely based on instinct and a similar style of posting to other mafia members. Whether it's too late to act on that tonight I don't know.
laughin man
27-03-2011, 19:48
I honestly didn't know that so if that is true, then yes lynching the next/last Parkhurst member should be the priority. I suspect someone else more than Dundon's for that role.
Papa is already dead isn't he?
I meant Phattman Iv had a hectic weekend im tired :(
You see Football777 could have been this "unknown" killer but never used it cause he wasnt around and now Phatts has inherited his role. Im thinking Meyappan because he hasnt really been around and now he is.
I think we should look through the posts of the Mafia members we do know and go for someone none of them have suspected its the smartest way to decide it.
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