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Joel
13-04-2011, 17:49
OK I did, and I still think that is the best tactic for the mafia.

You don't have to be a brain surgeon to see that bammers was a major sniffer dog in the previous game, he's an obvious traget for anyone with half a brain.


EDIT: I'm sure anyone in our previous mafia family would want rid of bammers first if they have a choice, or do you disagree?

I agree. Bammers is an obvious target. But, I also think he is still a risk. Usually, he has a lot of good roles, so surely the mafia had to contemplate whether it was worth the risk?

He's been such a good player that the chances were high that he would have had a role that would have deflected the first attack made against him. Would it be wise for them to take that chance and losing a member on the first night? Or would it had been better for them to take the normal route and kill a silent member?

I just wanted to call you out on this, as in the last game you showed no care for this risk at all and wanted to eliminate someone big from the get go.

smudger2008
13-04-2011, 17:54
first of all during the first game I thought the roles were given randomly, as it should be. There shouldn't be favourites for roles whether it is becasue they are perceived to play well or any other reason.

I stand by what I said, the mafia should take out the people with more to say on the first day, as there is no evidence after the first day to go off. Everyone is too caution as the town, which is why the town has never and will never win.
unless sminky scripting plays a role in this game and he has made it more in the towns favour

BarnDoor
13-04-2011, 18:02
Edit: Also Barn, props for including the cuntsboro creek gang in the write up! Brilliant stuff.

If I another one I may explain the break-up and death of the Cuntsboro Creek Gang, I think there's unfinished business there.

Hunter
13-04-2011, 18:26
I was the cult leader, last game.

:faceplm:

Missed that as well then.

Michu
13-04-2011, 18:47
To confirm: Bammers was a Texan, but without a special role. Barn had complete creative license to write what he saw fit.

Bish
13-04-2011, 19:03
:faceplm:

Missed that as well then.

I obviously made the right choice bringing you back to life then!

Phatmann
13-04-2011, 19:27
Nah. I think you and Dale should do that. You get on like a house on fire!

But seriously, at the moment there isn't much to go on in this game. So the only thing to go on is previous games at the moment. So what I want to know, without trying to sound arrogant, is why should you be trusted based on a tactic you was so persistent with, on the first day of the last mafia game?
Ha, when you said you were calling smudger out, I thought you meant you wanted to duel with him, pistols at dawn and shit. :faceplm:

Not sure why Minof has come out all guns blazing at Hunter, is there something I've missed from Hunter's posts so far in this game?

Hunter
13-04-2011, 19:43
To confirm: Bammers was a Texan, but without a special role. Barn had complete creative license to write what he saw fit.

Thanks.

Lets us get back to the real theories now, brushing aside the now-known fact that it was creative license.

I obviously made the right choice bringing you back to life then!

Indeed. It was a painful existence as I knew, or thought Bammers was cult, but from talking to Sminky I wasn't allowed to use my previous life's knowledge so couldn't tell anyone that I strongly believed Bammers to be cult for the obvious reasons, and was to make a completely seperate case if I was to go against him. But I was so mindfucked from the game that I didn't even know whether Bammers was cult anymore. :lol:

Anywho...

TH
13-04-2011, 19:44
Everyone hating on Hunter in here I see.

Ali_BWFC
13-04-2011, 19:49
We know that the roles weren't random in the last game, so it could be the same this game. I don't want to pick on Hunter, because I see no real reason for lynching him yet.... but has he been mafia in any of the games?

Joel
13-04-2011, 19:55
Ha, when you said you were calling smudger out, I thought you meant you wanted to duel with him, pistols at dawn and shit. :faceplm:

Not sure why Minof has come out all guns blazing at Hunter, is there something I've missed from Hunter's posts so far in this game?

I think he just saw something weird in Hunter's post and wanted to make a point. And as far as I'm concerned, I rather people do this rather than do nothing, sit back and just let another good guy die.

Edit: Which is where we are heading.

Bish
13-04-2011, 20:25
I agree with Joel, problem is he said the same thing in the last game when he was mafia. If there's enough people/time we should try to, assuming there's any genuine suspicions.

Hunter
13-04-2011, 20:38
Yeah, we need to pick things out of each person's game now even if it's just to question them, as sitting back will essentially get us nowhere, and it's actually quite strange how there's not more people on here discussing right now considering the amount who've signed up for this Wild West War.

We know that the roles weren't random in the last game, so it could be the same this game. I don't want to pick on Hunter, because I see no real reason for lynching him yet.... but has he been mafia in any of the games?

Indeed. I've been The Godfather before, and also a cult member albeit briefly. But if we're going purely off of past roles then that is quite possibly a big mistake, as then it's a matter of judging Sminky as opposed to one another. Plus, there's zero chance of building solid theories that way, whereas towards the latter stages of the last War quite a few great theories were being mentioned, many of which ended up being correct, or close to correct at least.

Joel
13-04-2011, 20:38
There isn't really any real suspicion at the moment, but they never will be when there isn't much discussion.

I don't even think it's a case of lynching anyone yet. Just discussion. People asking questions and such.

Phatmann
13-04-2011, 20:42
Yeah, we need to pick things out of each person's game now even if it's just to question them, as sitting back will essentially get us nowhere, and it's actually quite strange how there's not more people on here discussing right now considering the amount who've signed up for this Wild West War.



Indeed. I've been The Godfather before, and also a cult member albeit briefly.
I could see this being a problem this week considering the fact there was CL football and a big Monday night game this week. Some would've probably gone to the pub to watch the games and such. I'm sure it'll pick up over the next few days though.

Dale C.
13-04-2011, 21:35
Smudger you clown, I refuse to take the bait in your argument, because if I get angry with you then that provides the bandits with ammo, so just fuck off will you?

Joel is discussing the game in a very mature way, seems weird. I'm suspicious of him having a special role, but a pro-texan one. Just his language really, that's all i'm going on.

I think people are really going at Hunter for no reason, and I think there is a lot to look at there. Lest we forget, it was Billy who jumped on his back for no reason at all. Maybe to cause trouble within the texan town? I have suspicions about Billy having a 3rd party role; he is not really trying to help the town, rather he is 6 shooting his mouth all over the place. This is too obvious for a bandit, so I'm starting to think he's 3rd party.

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 21:37
Oooo. Just realised something, but then I rememberd I'm dead, so I can't say it :(

Ali_BWFC
13-04-2011, 21:41
Indeed. I've been The Godfather before, and also a cult member albeit briefly. But if we're going purely off of past roles then that is quite possibly a big mistake, as then it's a matter of judging Sminky as opposed to one another. Plus, there's zero chance of building solid theories that way, whereas towards the latter stages of the last War quite a few great theories were being mentioned, many of which ended up being correct, or close to correct at least.

Ah yes, I remember now. My mistake.

Oooo. Just realised something, but then I rememberd I'm dead, so I can't say it :(

Awwwwwwwww :( Hmmmmm, I wonder if it's worth looking back on the last few pages? :hmm:

It's not a big deal that we don't get a lynch tonight. I mean, in the last game, we went lynch-less in the first couple of days and we almost won, but for some unfortunate switcheroos going on. There obviously isn't going to be a lynch tonight, but if anyone has any major suspicions, do tell!

Joel
13-04-2011, 21:51
Joel is discussing the game in a very mature way, seems weird. I'm suspicious of him having a special role, but a pro-texan one. Just his language really, that's all i'm going on.

I have a decent role. It allows me to talk. I don't really have to be cautious - "oh no, I'm going to be lynched" or "oh no, the Dalton Gang/thrid party is going to kill me".

I'm just gonna carry on doing what I'm doing - Trying to find any leads on who is not pro-Texan.

Michu
13-04-2011, 21:52
Voting closed. There'll be no lynching today.

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 21:57
Oooo. Just realised something, but then I rememberd I'm dead, so I can't say it :(

Sminky, can I PM this to you, and then, at the end of the game, we can see whether I was right or not?

Joel
13-04-2011, 21:58
^ Why would he say no? :tongue:

smudger2008
13-04-2011, 22:04
Smudger you clown, I refuse to take the bait in your argument, because if I get angry with you then that provides the bandits with ammo, so just fuck off will you?

.


:laugh:
fine by me, short stuff!!

Voting closed. There'll be no lynching today.

What a surprise.

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 22:06
^ Why would he say no? :tongue:
No reason, I guess. I just thought it'd be polite to ask first. :folarm:

Michu
13-04-2011, 22:06
Day 2

A very quiet day. No duels but the odd "Fuck you" - although nothing out of the ordinary there. The town still unsure of the lay of the land is playing it safe.

Conclusion: No lynching

Night time has now started. You may post until no later than 10:30pm.

Sminky, can I PM this to you, and then, at the end of the game, we can see whether I was right or not?

Go ahead

Bish
13-04-2011, 22:07
No reason, I guess. I just thought it'd be polite to ask first. :folarm:

Change your font colour, deadboy. EDIT That's better.

Dale is short stuff, in more than one way.

smudger2008
13-04-2011, 22:08
:laugh:
how do you know?

Joel
13-04-2011, 22:10
No reason, I guess. I just thought it'd be polite to ask first. :folarm:

You're dead... You don't have to be polite anymore :joel:

This better not be an ironic post come Day 3!

TH
13-04-2011, 22:14
Bammers why are you writing in grey?

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 22:16
Bammers why are you writing in grey?

Because I'm dead. You really should try and keep up with the game.

TH
13-04-2011, 22:21
Yeah I know that, but surely dead people can't post?

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 22:23
Yeah I know that, but surely dead people can't post?

They can if it's in grey :cool:

Michu
13-04-2011, 22:23
They can't post anything that can influence the remaining members.

Dragonfly
13-04-2011, 22:24
Can we hire an exorcist to get rid of him?

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 22:26
Can we hire an exorcist to get rid of him?

NO WE CAN'T :folarm:

Bish
13-04-2011, 22:29
I just wanna make a post before the 10:30 cut-off.

That's all I have.

Dragonfly
13-04-2011, 22:30
I think we should all git.

Michu
13-04-2011, 22:33
Good night Cowboys, Cowgirls & Cowvestites ....

Night has fallen again on the West Texas plains ...

Night session finishes at 10pm tomorrow, although you can post from 8pm onwards (Sunrise) prior to the announcement of the latest slain member.

Laters ...

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 22:35
I can still post :)

Ghosts don't sleep.

Michu
13-04-2011, 22:38
Shhhhhhhhhh!

Bammers05
13-04-2011, 23:09
Sorry, Sminky :(

-GtS_5qTLPk

:troll:

muscularmatt
14-04-2011, 00:55
Boobs!

Billy Minof
14-04-2011, 11:48
What if he's a Dalton?

The Daltons are the Waltons in disguise.

Maybe Billy knows of another bandit group ¬___¬

The Arse Bandits. :ninja:

Not sure why Minof has come out all guns blazing at Hunter, is there something I've missed from Hunter's posts so far in this game?

Everyone hating on Hunter in here I see.

I think he just saw something weird in Hunter's post and wanted to make a point. And as far as I'm concerned, I rather people do this rather than do nothing, sit back and just let another good guy die.

Edit: Which is where we are heading.

Yeah, I was suspicious of his post, its not like him to slip up, I never accused him just pointed out some flaws and if others are not of the same opinion then we move on.

I think people are really going at Hunter for no reason, and I think there is a lot to look at there. Lest we forget, it was Billy who jumped on his back for no reason at all. Maybe to cause trouble within the texan town? I have suspicions about Billy having a 3rd party role; he is not really trying to help the town, rather he is 6 shooting his mouth all over the place. This is too obvious for a bandit, so I'm starting to think he's 3rd party.

Then lynch me and find out, I am actually the only one who is trying to help the town, your greatest contribution thus far is your Avatar.
There are definatly 3 parties involved, the Daltons, the people trying to weed out the Daltons and the idiots who look straight past what I say without ever looking at what I said, accuse me then of being a Dalton or 3rd party.

Quick question for Hunter, can you see why I was suspicious of you?

Hunter
14-04-2011, 13:26
Can't talk tactically during the night Bill.

I wrote out a response, saved it, and I'll post it once Day time strikes.

Michu
14-04-2011, 13:32
Can I remind you most honourable gents that chitty chat is not permitted during the night session

Cheers :)

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 14:12
Take away their voting privileges, Sminky.

Michu
14-04-2011, 15:54
I'll give Bill the benefit of the doubt this time but a repeat and I'll freeze voting privilages.

Michu
14-04-2011, 20:09
Sun rise on a new day ... you may post again ... write up at 10pm ...

Hunter
14-04-2011, 20:15
Quick question for Hunter, can you see why I was suspicious of you?

To an extent. It was more a misunderstanding than anything to be honest. I was making note of something in the story which seemed peculiar, and if I was right then it may have had some relevance to our investigations going forward. As I say though, it wasn't a matter of hoping everyone would kick start an investigation based on it, but more so I was mentioning it to actually see if it was relevant to a special ability or role, or whether it was simply creative license. Now that it's been cleared up as creative license by Sminky and Barn, we can brush it under the rug and get back to further investigations, such as the questionings.

More of a misunderstanding than anything since I was hoping for a swift response from Sminky/Barn, while you thought I was really putting it out there to wrongfoot everyone. I can see why you found it suspicious to an extent of course, but that was never my intention, which you now know about.

But you're right about one thing, we do need to continue with the questioning to see how the real and the fake cope under the pressure, and to see if any cracks appear. The problem at the moment is with not enough people posting, it makes it more difficult to find discrepancies in people's arguments.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 20:32
The problem at the moment is with not enough people posting, it makes it more difficult to find discrepancies in people's arguments.

This is a key issue we desperately need to address.

Why aren't people posting as much? Could it be right to assume that the people that aren't posting do not understand a complicated role that they could have?

I'm in the middle of a 10,000 word dissertation, and have 5,000 words on top of that to write by mid May (dissertation is in for 3rd of May) and i'm still managing to post a fair bit, so why aren't these people posting???

It's really confusing me because we've had this problem in past games, so surely the people concerned have learnt by now to post more, otherwise we won't have anything to go on??

Apparently not...

muscularmatt
14-04-2011, 20:35
It's a damn hard one to figure out. If you were a bad guy, you could quite easily go for both tactics - i.e. keep quiet so no one notices you, or blabber loads so you look like you are leading the charge.

I'm gonna go out now pledge my alleigance to Texas. I aint no stinking wetback.

Joel
14-04-2011, 20:36
And it makes the game boring (people not posting).

TH
14-04-2011, 20:37
I'm in the middle of a 10,000 word dissertation, and have 5,000 words on top of that to write by mid May (dissertation is in for 3rd of May) and i'm still managing to post a fair bit, so why aren't these people posting???


Trying to make some kind of joke about this, I'll come back when I can think of one.

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 20:42
The thread is effectively closed for just under 24 hours every other day so there was always going to be not as many posts or people posting as in previous games. Also the fact that there's no Amateur may be contributing to it. There are a few who have just not bothered though such as Laughin Man who I don't think has even made a post yet.

Bish
14-04-2011, 20:42
Honestly, I think it's because the last game was so successful but draining at the same time. I don't think people like the idea of putting that much time and effort in again. We could've done with more results during the last night session when Bammers was killed. Last game there was 2-3 separate incidents happening every night, it provided more to talk about.

I think nows the time for people to just call out others they suspect, I can't see how not doing that could help us win for the first time. Otherwise we're looking at another predictable result.

Joel
14-04-2011, 20:46
^ The problem is; how do you call out people you suspect when there is more or less nothing to go on?

I called out Smudger... Based on something from the last game.
Minof called out Hunter... Based on a loose comment.

It's just really weak at the moment. And if the results of last night is just another, "Dalton killed Texan", then nothing changes.

Appswah
14-04-2011, 20:56
I know I haven't been posting a hell of alot as there's not much going on. I've been reading through comments and such but trying to pick things up. The only thing that has popped to my attention is that I think Ali and Matt have a little Bromance going on. Double teaming TH's mum and what not.

Edit: The double teaming comment was made in the spam thread :D

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 20:56
At least after last night is written up we'll have an idea of whether there is a third party killer who may be able to take out some of the Daltons. If there is no third party killer then we're gonna have to rely on ourselves to lynch the right person or rely on those with special roles to use them wisely.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 21:01
Also (taking a leaf out of amateurs book) NOTE TO SELF

Papa didn't declare himself to be a Dalton/mafia.

TH
14-04-2011, 21:02
I know I haven't been posting a hell of alot as there's not much going on. I've been reading through comments and such but trying to pick things up. The only thing that has popped to my attention is that I think Ali and Matt have a little Bromance going on. Double teaming TH's mum and what not.

Edit: The double teaming comment was made in the spam thread :D

http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/WanadooFilms/Western/GoodBlondie1.jpg

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 21:09
I see you guys are so far away from knowing who the mafia are...

...

7IkvAb6THQY

Just wanted an excuse to post that song tbh

Papa
14-04-2011, 21:20
Why aren't people posting as much?

I think, as has already been pointed out, a lot of the reason is the night-time ban on posting has given us less to talk about in the day. Even when we weren't supposed to be talking tactics at night in the previous games, the style of some people's posts aroused suspicion at least.

At least after last night is written up we'll have an idea of whether there is a third party killer who may be able to take out some of the Daltons. If there is no third party killer then we're gonna have to rely on ourselves to lynch the right person or rely on those with special roles to use them wisely.

This is a good point, and not long until we find out. I would be surprised if there was no third party killer.

Also, when Sminky posts up the night's happenings, there will be a lot more to talk about.

Also (taking a leaf out of amateurs book) NOTE TO SELF

Papa didn't declare himself to be a Dalton/mafia.

:laugh: Not this again!

Alright, I'm a low-down, no-good, dirty, double-crossin', yella-bellied rattlesnake.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 21:25
Haha nothing to go on really, maybe you simply forgot, but I thought you'd carry on the tradition, 'tis all.

Hunter
14-04-2011, 21:30
2UzYKl-L2Eo

Had to.

Bish
14-04-2011, 21:32
Well at least the lack of posting has meant no Jersey Shore/Michael Cole GIF fucking shite.

I know what's coming now I've said that.

Hunter
14-04-2011, 21:36
http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/snooki.gif

Papa
14-04-2011, 21:42
What sort of cunt hits a woman?

Hunter, please tell me he got knocked out after that?

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 21:43
"Woman"

I'd use that term very loosely :lol:

TH
14-04-2011, 21:46
Anyone got the full video for that gif? I know it's been around for a while but I've never seen the video.

Hunter
14-04-2011, 21:47
"Woman"

I'd use that term very loosely :lol:

:laugh:

"Meatball".

And, I don't believe he did get knocked out after Papa, just roughed up a bit and hauled out by security.

Anyway, out for a short jog, I'll be back on in about 15-20 minutes by which time the announcement will be made right?

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:03
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li3r9gmucJ1qf5m9vo1_250 .gif

Michu
14-04-2011, 22:09
Sorry guys, no write up of sorts, too goddamn tired tonight (plus if Barn is interested in still doing some write ups I don’t want to shit all over his material with a crap write up!)

Night 2 Summary:

As the sun arose, the Texan community was again one Texan townie short. Over night the Dalton gang had stumbled into town drunk.

Starting a fight with a local gold miner TH14 stepped in and dished out a right hiding to a drunken Grat Dalton. Taking the fight outside – and looking to the finish the job, the rest of the Dalton brothers quickly turned the tide of the fight.

Grabbing TH14 they smacked him across the head with the butt of Bob Dalton’s rifle, stumbling and disorientated the Daltons assaulted TH14 with vigour punching and kicking him until he lay a bloody mess on the floor... but they weren’t finished. Grabbing one leg each, Emmett and Bob Dalton tied rope around TH14’s ankles. Each rope was connected to a horse. Mounting their horses they pulled away in different directions ... galloping away TH14 saw the slack on each rope suddenly disappear until ... CRACK!!! His left leg was ripped clean off!

Screaming in agony and in a pool of his blood, Grat threw a bottle of whiskey over TH14 and promptly set him alight ... Grat grabbed the severed left leg walked back into the saloon and chucked it across the bar “This cunt’s ‘Footing’ the bill!”

Stunned silence swept across the saloon as Grat stepped out of the Saloon. Looking back he sneered “Fuckin’ Townie Cunts”

Conclusion: The Dalton Gang killed TH14 who was a (standard role) Texan Townie

Day 3: Begins

TELEGRAM .... A stagecoach carrying liquor and supplies for the town has been robbed at gun point by Jesse James ...

The Saloon has closed for the day.

The Saloon is the meeting point for the Texans to vote on lynchings.

With the Saloon closed, the Town is now unable to vote on a lynching until Day 4 when the saloon reopens.

I repeat. The Town cannot vote to lynch anyone today.

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 22:11
No lynching, eh? Day 3's gonna be really interesting :rolleyes:

Being dead's not so bad, TH14. We get to haunt people's dreams and post at night :)

Appswah
14-04-2011, 22:11
oh shit. We cant lynch anyone till day 4?

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:12
I repeat. The Town cannot vote to lynch anyone today.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2ldceqb.gif

Papa
14-04-2011, 22:17
Fuck...

Bish
14-04-2011, 22:19
If TH was a normal Texan then I can't see why we can't vote, unless someone has used their night role for something. Pretty shite really.

And why did I mention Shore/Cole shit.

Michu
14-04-2011, 22:21
telegram .... A stagecoach carrying liquor and supplies for the town has been robbed at gun point by jesse james ...
the saloon has closed for the day.

The saloon is the meeting point for the texans to vote on lynchings.

With the saloon closed, the town is now unable to vote on a lynching until day 4 when the saloon reopens.

I repeat. The town cannot vote to lynch anyone today.

if th was a normal texan then i can't see why we can't vote, unless someone has used their night role for something. Pretty shite really.

And why did i mention shore/cole shit.

fyi

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:21
oh shit. We cant lynch anyone till day 4?

Nice edit :serial:

The way things have been going, I bet we wouldn't even have stumped up a lynch on the 3rd day anyway.

Last night didn't point to any 3rd party, and we can't even lynch today... Going back to sleep.

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 22:23
It seems Sminky has added his own role into the mix as I can't remember any already available role where something like this could happen. Well, we know that there is a third party at work now but it doesn't appear to be a serial killer, more like some sort of robber. How this role works though is a mystery at the moment.

Bish
14-04-2011, 22:25
So this Jesse James cunt is 3rd party then? Definitely not texan anyway.

TH
14-04-2011, 22:30
What!? why me? :(

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 22:33
Isn't it obvious, TH14? They're killing off the Arsenal fans first.

TH
14-04-2011, 22:36
I'm gonna have to take this cowboy outfit back now and hmm, Bishop and Dragon better be careful

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 22:37
So this Jesse James cunt is 3rd party then? Definitely not texan anyway.
I'd say he is a third party as I don't believe Jesse James was affiliated with the Daltons. Perhaps Jesse James has a partner in crime though? The role does seem to be pro-Dalton but I doubt Jesse James and the Daltons would be working together.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 22:37
Shite! That's a texan down, and no ability to do anything about it until day 4?!

Jesse James D:

I wonder how many times he has the power to do that :huh:

Bishop, Jesse James could perhaps be the Dalton leader?

Edit: Just seen Phatmanns post. Would Sminky have known that though? No offence Sminky (for creating the story), Barn or Phats, but that seems like a very small faggy detail that only Barndoor/you would know :laugh:

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:37
Completely missed the Jesse James part...

So the third party has finally come into play. And fucked us over immediately...

Sminky, is Day 3 going to run it's normal length of time?

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 22:38
I dare someone else to put John Marston as their avatar, as doing so appears to have worked well for me and TH14 :lol:

Michu
14-04-2011, 22:41
Completely missed the Jesse James part...

So the third party has finally come into play. And fucked us over immediately...

Sminky, is Day 3 going to run it's normal length of time?

Aye. You should use this time wisely to engage the active members.

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:43
I'm with Phat here. Jesse James won't be affiliated with the Dalton's.

1 - He is not the leader. Grat Dalton is the leader.
2 - We know there is a Bob Dalton. Maybe the Dalton Gang is made up of only Dalton's.

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 22:44
Shite! That's a texan down, and no ability to do anything about it until day 4?!

Jesse James D:

I wonder how many times he has the power to do that :huh:

Bishop, Jesse James could perhaps be the Dalton leader?

Edit: Just seen Phatmanns post. Would Sminky have known that though? No offence Sminky (for creating the story), Barn or Phats, but that seems like a very small faggy detail that only Barndoor/you would know :laugh:
Haven't you seen The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford? I think it was just Jesse and his brother while the Daltons I imagine consist of the Daltons.

TH
14-04-2011, 22:46
I dare someone else to put John Marston as their avatar, as doing so appears to have worked well for me and TH14 :lol:

I think it was always inevitable anyone associated with him would die..

Joel
14-04-2011, 22:46
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalton_Gang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James-Younger_Gang

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 22:47
Nope, not seen it Phats. So Jesse James is third party then, and obviously not pro-town. I had a feeling we'd get a third party showing on this night.

When I was serial killer, I only had the power to do anything every two nights, as not to overpower the game.

Jesse James has an awesome power, so I can't see him doing that to us every two nights, otherwise we'd never be able to vote. My theory is that this Jesse James character has a few different abilities, like the jack of all trades or whatever that was.

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 22:52
Maybe he is able to recruit into his gang? It would make sense that there is some sort of variation of the cult since we've had one in all of the previous games as far as I can remember.

BarnDoor
14-04-2011, 22:53
The Daltons were related to the Youngers if that counts for anything. I mentioned other members of the Dalton gang in Bammers' death but I don't know if they're actually part of the game or not.

Sorry I couldn't write a death tonight lads, I'll try and do the next one.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 22:59
Possibly Phats.

This is a list of whoever is left in the game;

1. Joel
2. Hunter
3. Phatmann
4. Fick
5. Smudge
6. Bammers
7. Ali
8. Bishop
9. Appswah
10. Laughin Man
11. Billy Minof
12. Chelsea11
13. Papa
14. Dale
15. Matt
16. TH14
17. Dundon's
18. Dragonfly

Michu
14-04-2011, 23:00
Possibly Phats.

This is a list of whoever is left in the game;

1. Joel
2. Hunter
3. Phatmann
4. Fick
5. Smudge
6. Bammers
7. Ali
8. Bishop
9. Appswah
10. Laughin Man
11. Billy Minof
12. Chelsea11
13. Papa
14. Dale
15. Matt
16. TH14

Cheers Dale, saved me a job :)

Joel
14-04-2011, 23:01
Dundon's needs to be added to that list.

Phatmann
14-04-2011, 23:02
Possibly Phats.

This is a list of whoever is left in the game;

1. Joel
2. Hunter
3. Phatmann
4. Fick
5. Smudge
6. Bammers
7. Ali
8. Bishop
9. Appswah
10. Laughin Man
11. Billy Minof
12. Chelsea11
13. Papa
14. Dale
15. Matt
16. TH14

You've forgotten Dundon's and Dragonfly.

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 23:03
Edited. I only found that list off the first page, my bad. I just wanted to bring a list of members to the fore.

Edit: So, why TH14?

TH
14-04-2011, 23:03
Yeah just get rid of the Arsenal fans...

Edit:
please play this at my funeral
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Joel
14-04-2011, 23:06
Why TH14? I would guess because he is a newbie and unlikely to have a big role. Safe decision, which is a complete contrast from killing Bammers on the first day.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:08
The fact we can't vote for a lynch doesn't make a difference, because there was nothing to go for evidence for a lynch anyway.

There needs to be some rule change to stop the 'not posting' trick to win the game. It's such as shit way to win and totally defeats the object of the game.

There's nothing else really to say until the mafia take out someone else is there, nothing to go on and we can't lynch anyway, and even if we could lynch the town is always over-caution.

I reckon Joel is Mafia and Dale is Jesse James. I'm just putting that out there, I have no real evidence for this, just a gut feeling from what I've read. I hope that statement starts a movement to lynch either one of them or even me, cus then at least we would be moving rather than just sitting here waiting to be picked off. we're never gonna get any evidence from sitting here watching the town go down by one each night.

EDIT: when Dundons is mafia, he likes to say nothing until someone mentions his name, then he comes on to defend himself, as in the last game.

fick
14-04-2011, 23:10
Why aren't people posting as much? Could it be right to assume that the people that aren't posting do not understand a complicated role that they could have?

I've been out/busy for the past few evenings. Not having posting in the thread during the night phase has clashed badly with when I've actually been on here. As for the complex roles, not sure that's the problem. Sminky admitted there was too much going on in the last game, so I'm sure he's toned down the variables for this one... at least I hope he has.

My theory is that this Jesse James character has a few different abilities, like the jack of all trades or whatever that was.

That's a good call Dale. Jack of all with a western twist. problem is, that particular ability isn't exactly pro-town, makes me wonder if it is something that will do us more harm than the bandito's.

On the subject of not being able to lynch today, based on the last couple of days, I don't think we're in any position to pick anyone. There are no theories, no clues and no help from the killings. The only person who's made any hint towards an idea is already dead, which puts us back to square one.

Papa
14-04-2011, 23:10
I'm guessing the TH14 kill was just as it is a safe one and doesn't lead suspicion towards anyone. Smudger, can you explain your gut feeling at all?

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 23:11
I reckon Joel is Mafia and Dale is Jesse James. I'm just putting that out there, I have no real evidence for this, just a gut feeling from what I've read. I hope that statement starts a movement to lynch either one of them or even me

:lol:

Joel, he doesn't like us because I suck up to you :lol: Sorry for bringing you down man :no:

Anyway, I think such a statement is ridiculous. Not sure about the mafia one, but to pin an exact role on someone when there's such little information to go on is ridiculous. And yeah, i'm aware I did this with Billy, but I just said he was third party. For all we know there could be a few third party roles.

Would Sminky really have toned the game down that much from last time? I don't think so anyway.

Papa
14-04-2011, 23:13
:lol:

Joel, he doesn't like us because I suck up to you :lol: Sorry for bringing you down man :no:

Anyway, I think such a statement is ridiculous. Not sure about the mafia one, but to pin an exact role on someone when there's such little information to go on is ridiculous. And yeah, i'm aware I did this with Billy, but I just said he was third party. For all we know there could be a few third party roles.

Would Sminky really have toned the game down that much from last time? I don't think so anyway.

I vaguely remember him saying he was going to make it less complicated. But the last game was such a mindfuck that even taking one little thing out of the game would make it less complicated so that doesn't say much.

Joel
14-04-2011, 23:16
Well since Smudger is just going by gut feeling, I don't feel any need to respond until he throws some questions at me or something.

That's a good call Dale. Jack of all with a western twist. problem is, that particular ability isn't exactly pro-town, makes me wonder if it is something that will do us more harm than the bandito's.

The Daltons and James were rivals. Both villains. So, it is safe to say neither is pro town.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:17
I'm guessing the TH14 kill was just as it is a safe one and doesn't lead suspicion towards anyone. Smudger, can you explain your gut feeling at all?

I can't really explain the joel one, his posts just seem the same as when he was mafia in the last game. Mind you I don't think my posts change whether I'm mafia or not, so maybe a red herring.

The way dale made a point of questioning the jesse james role, in two posts I think.

anyway I coudl be wrong, but I would rather be lyched myself for accusing someone than just carry on day after day with townies being picked off with nothing to point to anyone. The only way for us to get any type of evidence is if people step up.

Hunter
14-04-2011, 23:17
Wow. I come back in from a 35 minute jog, and a shower, to this. :huh:

I think it's safe to say, even without the power of voting now, we need to discuss things more than ever. I can only agree with Joel and Phat in thinking that Jesse James is acting as a third party, otherwise I think Sminky would have mentioned the Dalton Gang in the Jesse James robbery write up. Maybe Sminky can confirm their connection or lack of, he might have just missed mentioning any connection out with it being late 'n' all.

I can't help but think Dale's right as well when he says Jesse James can't implement this particular ability too often, or even more than once because of the strength of it.

Jesse James has got to be acting as a third party though, and I doubt he actually has a gang under his wing, otherwise I think Sminky would have stated it was the James-Younger or James Gang that committed the robbery as opposed to simply Jesse James, the lone individual.

fick
14-04-2011, 23:19
The Daltons and James were rivals. Both villains. So, it is safe to say neither is pro town.

But it James a solo anti-town, or affiliated to the Daltons? Sminky could add any twist here...

but I would rather be lyched myself for accusing someone than just carry on day after day with townies being picked off with nothing to point to anyone. The only way for us to get any type of evidence is if people step up.

I'm getting a serious feeling of deja-vu here :hmm:

Michu
14-04-2011, 23:20
I can only agree with Joel and Phat in thinking that Jesse James is acting as a third party, otherwise I think Sminky would have mentioned the Dalton Gang in the Jesse James robbery write up. Maybe Sminky can confirm their connection or lack of, he might have just missed mentioning any connection out with it being late 'n' all.

Maybe. Maybe not. Lets see how it plays out :)

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:21
Evening fellas. I've been at the pub, so have not been able to post tonight... until now that is.

Why TH14? I would guess because he is a newbie and unlikely to have a big role. Safe decision, which is a complete contrast from killing Bammers on the first day.

I agree with this. He is a newbie, so is a safe lynch.

The fact we can't vote for a lynch doesn't make a difference, because there was nothing to go for evidence for a lynch anyway.

There needs to be some rule change to stop the 'not posting' trick to win the game. It's such as shit way to win and totally defeats the object of the game.

There's nothing else really to say until the mafia take out someone else is there, nothing to go on and we can't lynch anyway, and even if we could lynch the town is always over-caution.

I reckon Joel is Mafia and Dale is Jesse James. I'm just putting that out there, I have no real evidence for this, just a gut feeling from what I've read. I hope that statement starts a movement to lynch either one of them or even me, cus then at least we would be moving rather than just sitting here waiting to be picked off. we're never gonna get any evidence from sitting here watching the town go down by one each night.

EDIT: when Dundons is mafia, he likes to say nothing until someone mentions his name, then he comes on to defend himself, as in the last game.

I'm not sure about Dale being Jesse James. If that role is a lone wolf sort of role, would Sminky give it to Dale, given that he has already had the serial killer role? Of course I'm assuming that the roles aren't randomly given... which may not be the case.

Papa
14-04-2011, 23:21
Jesse James has got to be acting as a third party though, and I doubt he actually has a gang under his wing, otherwise I think Sminky would have stated it was the James-Younger or James Gang that committed the robbery as opposed to simply Jesse James, the lone individual.

This is a good point and one that I didn't think of.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:22
I'm getting a serious feeling of deja-vu here :hmm:

explain? do you mean you're mafia again?

Dale C.
14-04-2011, 23:23
This is a good point and one that I didn't think of.

He still could be a cult sort of thing though, where he can induct members. We can't be sure until we kill him, or one of his inductees I suppose.

I don't think he's a gang either. I think either lone wolf, or cult leader.

fick
14-04-2011, 23:24
explain? do you mean you're mafia again?

Seeing as we're in the wild west, then it's not likely that anyone here is mafia. I do wish you'd keep up.

Just lay off the "lynch me, lynch me" line. It's nearly as useless as vampires...

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:25
He still could be a cult sort of thing though, where he can induct members. We can't be sure until we kill him, or one of his inductees I suppose.

I don't think he's a gang either. I think either lone wolf, or cult leader.

If Jesse James is the cult leader, he is now a cult leader with additional powers from the previous game and as the cult won the previous game there is no need for the leader to have additional powers is there?

Joel
14-04-2011, 23:28
I can't really explain the joel one, his posts just seem the same as when he was mafia in the last game. Mind you I don't think my posts change whether I'm mafia or not, so maybe a red herring.

Ok, this I can respond to. The truth is, you're right. My style is more or less the same as in the last game when I was mafia.

When I was mafia, my aim is to find out who Fixers Prize was. In this game, I am a Texan. And once again, my aim is to find out who the Dalton Gang and now Jesse James is.

My game will always be the same - eliminate my threats. So I guess you're never going to know for sure what side I lay on, until I can come up with some results. You're just going to have to trust me, or lynch me. I can't put it any other way than that. As I said yesterday, I'm not going to be cautious. That's something Jeff Bridge's would never be!

anyway I coudl be wrong, but I would rather be lyched myself for accusing someone than just carry on day after day with townies being picked off with nothing to point to anyone. The only way for us to get any type of evidence is if people step up.

I respect that. You have to challenge people and see if you can see through their game if they have one. If that person you challenge is going to be me, then so be it. But don't just sit back and do nothing.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:29
Seeing as we're in the wild west, then it's not likely that anyone here is mafia. I do wish you'd keep up.

Just lay off the "lynch me, lynch me" line. It's nearly as useless as vampires...


seeing as we're not really in the wild west and its a game, I'll call it mafia if its all the same to you boss.

ok then. lynch someone, lynch someone. Or is it better for us all to post nothing and sit there getting picked off.

The reason the town never wins is because they are too caution for the lynch, at least if you go with someones for a lynch you get some evidence reason to suspect the next person.

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:31
seeing as we're not really in the wild west and its a game, I'll call it mafia if its all the same to you boss.

ok then. lynch someone, lynch someone. Or is it better for us all to post nothing and sit there getting picked off.

The reason the town never wins is because they are too caution for the lynch, at least if you go with someones for a lynch you get some evidence reason to suspect the next person.

We weren't to cautious last time, and it got us 3 positive lynches. Caution isn't the problem, but there needs to be a good enough reason to lynch someone.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:31
Ok, this I can respond to. The truth is, you're right. My style is more or less the same as in the last game when I was mafia.

When I was mafia, my aim is to find out who Fixers Prize was. In this game, I am a Texan. And once again, my aim is to find out who the Dalton Gang and now Jesse James is.

My game will always be the same - eliminate my threats. So I guess you're never going to know for sure what side I lay on, until I can come up with some results. You're just going to have to trust me, or lynch me. I can't put it any other way than that. As I said yesterday, I'm not going to be cautious. That's something Jeff Bridge's would never be!




:laugh:

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:33
We weren't to cautious last time, and it got us 3 positive lynches. Caution isn't the problem, but there needs to be a good enough reason to lynch someone.

What the fuck is the good of three positive lynches if you still loose?
I don't know what number game we're upto now, but I do know that the town has never won, and the resason for that is no evidence to lynch until the odds are in the anti-towns favour and the same is going to happen in this game

EDIT: sorry for the double post

fick
14-04-2011, 23:34
If Jesse James is the cult leader, he is now a cult leader with additional powers from the previous game and as the cult won the previous game there is no need for the leader to have additional powers is there?

If the number or roles is reduced, it seems likely that Smink may have enhanced some of the remaining ones. He's been pretty consistent with throwing us off kilter with the game variations so far...

ok then. lynch someone, lynch someone. Or is it better for us all to post nothing and sit there getting picked off.

I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch, but it's pretty pointless at the moment anyway. We have nearly 2 game days to reach a consensus and what we really need is everyone getting involved, not martyrs.

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:37
What the fuck is the good of three positive lynches if you still loose?
I don't know what number game we're upto now, but I do know that the town has never won, and the resason for that is no evidence to lynch until the odds are in the anti-towns favour and the same is going to happen in this game

EDIT: sorry for the double post

Well... the fact is:

We got 3 positive lynches. Without those, the town would have got NOWHERE near to winning. It's the best the town has ever done, regardless of the fact that they didn't win.

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 23:37
I'd just like to point out that we would have won Mafia Wars II, if Appswah hadn't mucked up on the final night.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:38
If the number or roles is reduced, it seems likely that Smink may have enhanced some of the remaining ones. He's been pretty consistent with throwing us off kilter with the game variations so far...

What reason would he have to make it easier for the cult. they won the last game, so the obviously dont need it to be easier?



I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch, but it's pretty pointless at the moment anyway. We have nearly 2 game days to reach a consensus and what we really need is everyone getting involved, not martyrs.

But everyone won't get involved. there are people who sign-up for the game everytime and don't post and there are people who use the low post tactic to win as mafia (which is an absolutly shit way to win, I don't see the point).

Bammers has posted more since he died than some people have all game.

Well... the fact is:

We got 3 positive lynches. Without those, the town would have got NOWHERE near to winning. It's the best the town has ever done, regardless of the fact that they didn't win.

We don't get anything for positive lynches, we either win or we don't that's it.

Michu
14-04-2011, 23:38
Worth noting, the Town always has a higher probability of defeat.

Bish
14-04-2011, 23:39
We didn't lose the last game because of lack of lynching, we lost it because of goings on in the background. Anyway with voting closed in the next daytime it's a perfect opportunity for us to really interrogate someone.

Joel
14-04-2011, 23:42
Well... the fact is:

We got 3 positive lynches. Without those, the town would have got NOWHERE near to winning. It's the best the town has ever done, regardless of the fact that they didn't win.

I'm not even sure you can say the town was that good in the last game...

You done well as the cop, but two lynches were led by Bammers and yourself (when you was cult aligned).

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:42
We didn't lose the last game because of lack of lynching, we lost it because of goings on in the background. Anyway with voting closed in the next daytime it's a perfect opportunity for us to really interrogate someone.

Aye, it was all the crazyness. It was the Bus Driver role that really fucked everything up. Sure it got 2 mafia members lynched.... but it revelead Papa to be the cult leader.... when he wasn't, and it revealed smudger to be innocent with my investigations..... when he wasn't.

Who do you suggest we interrogate, Bish?

EDIT: Joel, only one of the positive lynches occured when I was cult. I was townie when we lynched Amateur and Dundons.

fick
14-04-2011, 23:43
What reason would he have to make it easier for the cult. they won the last game, so the obviously dont need it to be easier?

What cult? There is presently no reason to believe there is one in this game...

But everyone won't get involved. there are people who sign-up for the game everytime and don't post...

I agree, perhaps there should be a minimum number of posts that everyone should make to prevent pointless inclusion, or being simple, yet aimless lynches.

Bammers05
14-04-2011, 23:45
I'd just like to say that if someone were to 'drop out', due to a lack of posting, I know someone who'd be willing to re-enter the game :)

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:46
the only thing to go on now, is the way people played past games.

I already mentioned Joel, which he defended.

But what about Dundons? I never played when he wasnt mafia so I dont know how he played it (anyone?), but I know when he's mafia he likes to say nothing and only defend himself when necessary.

What cult? There is presently no reason to believe there is one in this game...

.

I think, you replied to my post which was about the cult

Joel
14-04-2011, 23:46
EDIT: Joel, only one of the positive lynches occured when I was cult. I was townie when we lynched Amateur and Dundons.

Oh ok. I remember that Bammers was the main guy going after Dundon's though. "Hell bent" is a fair word to use!

I'd just like to say that if someone were to 'drop out', due to a lack of posting, I know someone who'd be willing to re-enter the game :)

I actually think that is something that may need to happen, as we know you will contribute.

Bish
14-04-2011, 23:46
Aye, it was all the crazyness. It was the Bus Driver role that really fucked everything up. Sure it got 2 mafia members lynched.... but it revelead Papa to be the cult leader.... when he wasn't, and it revealed smudger to be innocent with my investigations..... when he wasn't.

Who do you suggest we interrogate, Bish?

EDIT: Joel, only one of the positive lynches occured when I was cult. I was townie when we lynched Amateur and Dundons.

I helped the town at night but it was my fault for missing the Bammers/Papa mix-up.

I think everyone should be interrogated, including myself. Smudger has suddenly got heavily involved but the points he makes are right, or what we want to hear. There's still a few people who aren't posting really that we can't question though.

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:48
Oh ok. I remember that Bammers was the main guy going after Dundon's though. "Hell bent" is a fair word to use!

Yeah, it was mainly Bammers and myself. I believed Dundons was mafia, and I believed Bammers was townie, so I trusted him. The bastard inducted me the night after that :faceplm:

EDIT: It is annoying when people sign up for the game, and don't even bother posting at all.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:51
Yeah, it was mainly Bammers and myself. I believed Dundons was mafia, and I believed Bammers was townie, so I trusted him. The bastard inducted me the night after that :faceplm:

EDIT: It is annoying when people sign up for the game, and don't even bother posting at all.

ok Ali. well done you voted for a couple of good lycnhes in the last game.

But the point remains, if the town doesn't lynch, the town doesn't win. Or am I wrong?

chelsea11
14-04-2011, 23:52
I'd just like to point out that we would have won Mafia Wars II, if Appswah hadn't mucked up on the final night.

You can replace me if you want? If Sminky will allow it, I won't reveal what my role is.

I'm not really bothered/feeling it this time around anyway.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:53
You can replace me if you want? If Sminky will allow it, I won't reveal what my role is.

I'm not really bothered/feeling it this time around anyway.

so you're a townie then, the same as me. It's so hard to get motivated when you have a shit role

EDIT: fucking hell, that was your first post.

Appswah
14-04-2011, 23:55
I'd just like to point out that we would have won Mafia Wars II, if Appswah hadn't mucked up on the final night.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/8/12/128946190538772594.jpg

Bish
14-04-2011, 23:55
ok Ali. well done you voted for a couple of good lycnhes in the last game.

But the point remains, if the town doesn't lynch, the town doesn't win. Or am I wrong?

Depends if there is a Jack of all trades Texan, like I was last time, who could do good work at night. Killed 3 mafia alone. But there does need to be lynching yes, pointless playing this game otherwise.

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:56
ok Ali. well done you voted for a couple of good lycnhes in the last game.

But the point remains, if the town doesn't lynch, the town doesn't win. Or am I wrong?

Well.... it wasn't just me. I'm not taking sole credit for it or anything.

But you're right... if we don't lynch, we don't win. 2 days without a lynch isn't disastrous, but this 3rd day could really fuck us up. We need to make the most of it, maybe even decide who we want to lynch in day 4.

Papa
14-04-2011, 23:57
Here's a list of posts so far in this thread from the remaining participants.

Joel - 47
Hunter - 24
Phatmann - 15
Dale - 34
Fick - 21
Billy - 21
Smudger - 21
TheBishop - 17
Ali - 16
Papa - 13
Dragonfly - 11
Appswah - 7
Matt - 6
Dundon's - 2
Chelsea11 - 1
Laughin Man - 0

Michu
14-04-2011, 23:57
You can replace me if you want? If Sminky will allow it, I won't reveal what my role is.

I'm not really bothered/feeling it this time around anyway.

Give a couple more days mate before dropping out :)

New rules regarding minimum posting/posts will be implemented for next game.

Ali_BWFC
14-04-2011, 23:58
Here's a list of posts so far in this thread from the remaining participants.

Joel - 47
Hunter - 24
Phatmann - 15
Dale - 34
Fick - 21
Billy - 21
Smudger - 19
TheBishop - 16
Ali - 15
Papa - 13
Dragonfly - 11
Matt - 6
Appswah - 6
Dundon's - 2
Laughin Man - 0
Chelsea11 - 0

You've put Dragonfly twice.

smudger2008
14-04-2011, 23:59
Depends if there is a Jack of all trades Texan, like I was last time, who could do good work at night. Killed 3 mafia alone. But there does need to be lynching yes, pointless playing this game otherwise.

sorry you didnt kill three mafia, sminky's bullshit skill he gave to chelsea to kill a mafia at random killed one. you may have killed the other two though.

pointless playing this game otherwise.

that's the point I'm trying to make, what is the point of playing if you are town and you just sit there waiting to be taken out? we have to take a risk and do the first lynch based on less evidence, its the only way to get evidence. without waiting until the odds are well in the anti-towns favour.

Here's a list of posts so far in this thread from the remaining participants.

Joel - 47
Hunter - 24
Phatmann - 15
Dale - 34
Fick - 21
Billy - 21
Smudger - 21
TheBishop - 17
Ali - 16
Papa - 13
Dragonfly - 11
Appswah - 7
Matt - 6
Dundon's - 2
Chelsea11 - 1
Laughin Man - 0

did you notice that sminky has posted more than anyone else, and he's not even playing

Papa
15-04-2011, 00:01
You've put Dragonfly twice.

No I didn't. :ninja:

fick
15-04-2011, 00:02
New rules regarding minimum posting/posts will be implemented for next game.

Good man ;)

Michu
15-04-2011, 00:02
sorry you didnt kill three mafia, sminky's bullshit skill he gave to chelsea to kill a mafia at random killed one. you may have killed the other two though..

So not bitter then :laugh:

Ali_BWFC
15-04-2011, 00:03
No I didn't. :ninja:

Very sneaky Papa. Hmmmm, you made an honest mistake.... so by Amateur's logic, you MUST be mafia :hmm:

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:04
So not bitter then :laugh:

sminky, you know full well I am very bitter about it, I think I already admitted to that in the other thread? :)

EDIT: you know the mafia would have kicked arse in that last game only for your scripting ;)

Dale C.
15-04-2011, 00:05
What is this darn mafia every body is tootin' on about?!

muscularmatt
15-04-2011, 00:05
We're gonna lose.

Papa
15-04-2011, 00:06
We're gonna lose.

You sure are you Dalton bastard.

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:07
We're gonna lose.

matt, do you suspect anyone, because your posts seem so insightful?

Michu
15-04-2011, 00:07
did you notice that sminky has posted more than anyone else, and he's not even playing

I noticed that. Thought I'd post my acknowledgment.

Joel
15-04-2011, 00:07
sminky, you know full well I am very bitter about it, I think I already admitted to that in the other thread? :)

EDIT: you know the mafia would have kicked arse in that last game only for your scripting ;)

Dude, I'm still bitter at the fact that Luis Garcia's shot DIDN'T cross the line.

Bish
15-04-2011, 00:08
We're gonna lose.

Take your Mick McCarthy team talk out of this thread.

fick
15-04-2011, 00:08
We're gonna lose.

You do realise this isn't the Wolves thread..? :erm:

Edit: You git Bish:)

Phatmann
15-04-2011, 00:08
Give a couple more days mate before dropping out :)

New rules regarding minimum posting/posts will be implemented for next game.
How would this be implemented though? If you don't post a certain amount of times, you're out of the game/lynched? That would most likely have a bad effect on the town as the mafia are more likely to be keeping a track of the thread whereas certain people might not bother to get involved if they are townies.

Or do you have another idea up your sleeve in regards to punishment?

Papa
15-04-2011, 00:08
Take your Mick McCarthy team talk out of this thread.

You do realise this isn't the Wolves thread..? :erm:

They're obviously working together... :hmm:

Appswah
15-04-2011, 00:09
Take your Mick McCarthy team talk out of this thread.

Bazinga

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MBanU4pEcDU/STM3JUeST0I/AAAAAAAAAHY/PbyWl6Qrtak/s400/sheldon.jpg

fick
15-04-2011, 00:11
They're obviously working together... :hmm:

Obviously working on your own... :hmm:

kFPvP0yDPIA

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:13
I noticed that. Thought I'd post my acknowledgment.

Thanks :)

Dude, I'm still bitter at the fact that Luis Garcia's shot DIDN'T cross the line.

I'm still bitter we didn't win it for the 6th time in Athens. :)

How would this be implemented though? If you don't post a certain amount of times, you're out of the game/lynched? That would most likely have a bad effect on the town as the mafia are more likely to be keeping a track of the thread whereas certain people might not bother to get involved if they are townies.

Or do you have another idea up your sleeve in regards to punishment?

If people aren't gonna post just cus they have a shit role (or to sneak under the radar for that matter), then they shouldn't play the game. It spoils it.

Michu
15-04-2011, 00:13
sminky, you know full well I am very bitter about it, I think I already admitted to that in the other thread? :)

EDIT: you know the mafia would have kicked arse in that last game only for your scripting ;)

A framework. Not a script.

http://www.clustercycling.com/sour-grapes.jpg

Michu
15-04-2011, 00:16
How would this be implemented though? If you don't post a certain amount of times, you're out of the game/lynched? That would most likely have a bad effect on the town as the mafia are more likely to be keeping a track of the thread whereas certain people might not bother to get involved if they are townies.

Or do you have another idea up your sleeve in regards to punishment?

There are a couple of ideas I've got in mind. I need to think over which is more viable as the issue of keeping balance in the game is paramount - otherwise it'll be a Antagonist whitewash.

Dale C.
15-04-2011, 00:16
Ew, what place actually sells sour grapes :huh:

Papa
15-04-2011, 00:16
Obviously working on your own... :hmm:

kFPvP0yDPIA

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20cl apping.gif

Perfect reply. Have some rep.

muscularmatt
15-04-2011, 00:17
They're obviously working together... :hmm:

Bingo! Let's burn those cunts, Papa!!

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:18
A framework. Not a script.

http://www.clustercycling.com/sour-grapes.jpg

Thats what Konami call it aswell :)

Ew, what place actually sells sour grapes :huh:

hehehe, I never even noticed that.

Where is that Sminky?

fick
15-04-2011, 00:30
Bingo! Let's burn those cunts, Papa!!

http://cluexfour.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ass-in-hole.jpg

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:33
http://cluexfour.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ass-in-hole.jpg

:laugh:

TH
15-04-2011, 00:41
I don't like Matts use of language in this thread..

muscularmatt
15-04-2011, 00:47
I don't like Matt's use of language in this thread..

Corrected.

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 00:48
I don't like Matts use of language in this thread..

doesn't really matter, you're dead!! ;)

TH
15-04-2011, 00:58
It's bugging me in the afterlife

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 01:29
I know, death is really getting to Bammers aswell, he so wants to be part of the game, hehehe


Corrected.

absolutley hilarious that you corrected his language :laugh:

have some rep, even though it's only neutral

muscularmatt
15-04-2011, 02:18
absolutley hilarious that you corrected his language :laugh:


You are a scholar, sir. Didn't think anyone would get that.

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 12:27
Joel, you did it!!



Sminky is it day time or night time? the thread title is night time.

Billy Minof
15-04-2011, 13:23
Jesus there was alot of reading to catch up on things.

To an extent. It was more a misunderstanding than anything to be honest. I was making note of something in the story which seemed peculiar, and if I was right then it may have had some relevance to our investigations going forward. As I say though, it wasn't a matter of hoping everyone would kick start an investigation based on it, but more so I was mentioning it to actually see if it was relevant to a special ability or role, or whether it was simply creative license. Now that it's been cleared up as creative license by Sminky and Barn, we can brush it under the rug and get back to further investigations, such as the questionings.

More of a misunderstanding than anything since I was hoping for a swift response from Sminky/Barn, while you thought I was really putting it out there to wrongfoot everyone. I can see why you found it suspicious to an extent of course, but that was never my intention, which you now know about.

But you're right about one thing, we do need to continue with the questioning to see how the real and the fake cope under the pressure, and to see if any cracks appear. The problem at the moment is with not enough people posting, it makes it more difficult to find discrepancies in people's arguments.

:cool:

^ The problem is; how do you call out people you suspect when there is more or less nothing to go on?

I called out Smudger... Based on something from the last game.
Minof called out Hunter... Based on a loose comment.

It's just really weak at the moment. And if the results of last night is just another, "Dalton killed Texan", then nothing changes.

Nothing still has changed but they are about to, I have an idea that I will explain at the end of this post.

Sorry guys, no write up of sorts, too goddamn tired tonight (plus if Barn is interested in still doing some write ups I don’t want to shit all over his material with a crap write up!)

Night 2 Summary:

As the sun arose, the Texan community was again one Texan townie short. Over night the Dalton gang had stumbled into town drunk.

Starting a fight with a local gold miner TH14 stepped in and dished out a right hiding to a drunken Grat Dalton. Taking the fight outside – and looking to the finish the job, the rest of the Dalton brothers quickly turned the tide of the fight.

Grabbing TH14 they smacked him across the head with the butt of Bob Dalton’s rifle, stumbling and disorientated the Daltons assaulted TH14 with vigour punching and kicking him until he lay a bloody mess on the floor... but they weren’t finished. Grabbing one leg each, Emmett and Bob Dalton tied rope around TH14’s ankles. Each rope was connected to a horse. Mounting their horses they pulled away in different directions ... galloping away TH14 saw the slack on each rope suddenly disappear until ... CRACK!!! His left leg was ripped clean off!

Screaming in agony and in a pool of his blood, Grat threw a bottle of whiskey over TH14 and promptly set him alight ... Grat grabbed the severed left leg walked back into the saloon and chucked it across the bar “This cunt’s ‘Footing’ the bill!”

Stunned silence swept across the saloon as Grat stepped out of the Saloon. Looking back he sneered “Fuckin’ Townie Cunts”

Conclusion: The Dalton Gang killed TH14 who was a (standard role) Texan Townie

Day 3: Begins

TELEGRAM .... A stagecoach carrying liquor and supplies for the town has been robbed at gun point by Jesse James ...

The Saloon has closed for the day.

The Saloon is the meeting point for the Texans to vote on lynchings.

With the Saloon closed, the Town is now unable to vote on a lynching until Day 4 when the saloon reopens.

I repeat. The Town cannot vote to lynch anyone today.

No lynch tonight, sets us back a bit, Jesse James is now also in the mix eh, its a bit of a spanner for us but we will survive and defeat anyone who tries to break up the good town.
Nice write up Sminkey, I enjoyed reading it.

Here's a list of posts so far in this thread from the remaining participants.

Joel - 47
Hunter - 24
Phatmann - 15
Dale - 34
Fick - 21
Billy - 21
Smudger - 21
TheBishop - 17
Ali - 16
Papa - 13
Dragonfly - 11
Appswah - 7
Matt - 6
Dundon's - 2
Chelsea11 - 1
Laughin Man - 0

Corrected.

Those not posting could be our first targets, can we find out if they have been online since there last posts and if so then we must be suspicious of them at the least.



Anyway, here is where I am at after reading through all that.

There were 18 players, most probably 4 Daltons and now Jesse James leaving 13 good honest Texans, now some of us Texans must have some sort of abilities, what they are or could be I have no idea.
Now something that came into my head while reading through all the posts was that some members(about 4) actually have Bandits as there avatars(arse bandits or gay cowboys) could this be a clue for us?
Also, some good members have not been contributing, laying low if you will, could one of these be Jesse James?
Well we cannot lynch today and by tomorrow we may have some new suspects or still be scratching our heads but we need to make a move, 2 of us are already dead another one tonight unless someone intervenes bringing us to just a 2/1 ratio against the Bandits.

What you guys think?

Michu
15-04-2011, 13:49
http://cluexfour.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/ass-in-hole.jpg

Amusingly sly Mr Fick ... however, I do hope they got the Donkey out, poor mite,

Hunter
15-04-2011, 14:00
I'm not sure how to view things, but I don't think the War will have started with 13 honest Texans, and just 4 Dalton and Jesse James. It just seems like there's too many Texans in the mix there, unless that's part of Sminky's plan, to let us dwindle our own numbers down through incorrect lynchings until we find the right pattern.

I don't think we can look too closely into the avatar situation either, as several will have just went for their favourite Western characters, or just those that aren't already in use. I don't think it should be read into as a real theory if I'm honest.

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 14:05
I've got some catching up to do. I'll try to read through the last three or four pages when I get home - I've only skimmed so far.

Could Jesse James and saloon robberies be a creation in order to give Sminky a rest? :shfty:

Billy Minof
15-04-2011, 14:20
I'm not sure how to view things, but I don't think the War will have started with 13 honest Texans, and just 4 Dalton and Jesse James. It just seems like there's too many Texans in the mix there, unless that's part of Sminky's plan, to let us dwindle our own numbers down through incorrect lynchings until we find the right pattern.

I don't think we can look too closely into the avatar situation either, as several will have just went for their favourite Western characters, or just those that aren't already in use. I don't think it should be read into as a real theory if I'm honest.

What about the inactive members?

Ali_BWFC
15-04-2011, 14:29
I'm a little suspicious of matt TBH, he's made a few posts, but has contributed little towards the cause. Same goes with Apps.

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 15:44
Could Jesse James and saloon robberies be a creation in order to give Sminky a rest? :shfty:

:laugh:

I'm a little suspicious of matt TBH, he's made a few posts, but has contributed little towards the cause. Same goes with Apps.

I don't think either of them have made a relevant post.


I think we should start taking out the no, low and irrelevant posters. I agree some of them may be townies who cant be arsed playing cus they're town, but if we never take them out, it will continue to happen again and again in every mafia wars. There shouldn't be an afvantage to not posting anything

fick
15-04-2011, 15:47
I'm a little suspicious of matt TBH, he's made a few posts, but has contributed little towards the cause. Same goes with Apps.

If we're being honest here, is Matt's lack of relevant posting anything new? In any thread?

Apps on the other hand likes to get involved in the wars... :hmm:

Dale C.
15-04-2011, 15:48
I'm not defending him at all because that behaviour doesn't help the game, but Matt is hardly known for his relevant posts.

It's nothing new.

Edit: Dammit Fick!

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 15:49
If we're being honest here, is Matt's lack of relevant posting anything new? In any thread?

:


True


Apps on the other hand likes to get involved in the wars... :hmm :

Although, he didn't get involved in the previous wars much. However, in the previous he just didn't post (and he was a townie, I think), in this one he is posting, but nothing relevant. Maybe just a ploy to keep his post count up?

fick
15-04-2011, 16:08
I think we should start taking out the no, low and irrelevant posters...

So, to prevent any downturn in momentum, from what you're suggesting the list would look something akin to:

Dragonfly
Appswah
Matt
Dundon's
Chelsea11
Laughin Man

Bish
15-04-2011, 16:09
I just hope the cop/sheriff (if there is one) remembers that investigating these type of posters is just as important as investigating people who are contributing regularly. Then again, one of the quieter ones could be the cop/sheriff.

Matt has always posted like this in these games so it's really hard to get any real clues.

smudger2008
15-04-2011, 16:15
So, to prevent any downturn in momentum, from what you're suggesting the list would look something akin to:

Dragonfly
Appswah
Matt
Dundon's
Chelsea11
Laughin Man

with post numbers

Dragonfly - 12
Appswah - 8 (not much relevance in posts)
Matt - 10 (not much relevance in posts)
Dundon's - 2 (last time only poasted to defend himself and was mafia)
Chelsea11 - 1 (doesnt want to play, unmotivated, reckon he's a townie)
Laughin Man - 0 (was very lively in the last game, and was a townie. maybe he is trying to go unnoticed)

Bish
15-04-2011, 16:26
I just looked on laughin man's profile and he hasn't been online for over a week, so I don't think this is a game plan. The others usually are online.

Papa
15-04-2011, 16:29
I just looked on laughin man's profile and he hasn't been online for over a week, so I don't think this is a game plan. The others usually are online.

Just what I was about to say.

Well are any of those named online now and up for an interrogation?

http://www.wolverineliberationarmy.co m/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/interrogation-police.jpg

Bish
15-04-2011, 16:32
Or this type of interrogation:

http://www.basicinstinct.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/gallery/basic-instinct/basic-instinct-10.jpg

Hunter
15-04-2011, 16:42
I've just noticed something about Dragonfly that I think should at least be put out there; his signature.

It's almost disguised. A silhouette. It's chopped, and I'm not sure if anyone has really noticed it yet:

Dragonfly's signature:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4141/sigej.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/sigej.png/)

The full picture:

http://daleyus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/brad_pitt_as_jesse_james2.jpg

Make of it what you will, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to slip a disguised clue by the town.

Bammers05
15-04-2011, 16:45
Oooo :ohmy:

Papa
15-04-2011, 16:51
:ohmy:

Billy Minof
15-04-2011, 16:59
So, to prevent any downturn in momentum, from what you're suggesting the list would look something akin to:

Dragonfly
Appswah
Matt
Dundon's
Chelsea11
Laughin Man

I've just noticed something about Dragonfly that I think should at least be put out there; his signature.

It's almost disguised. A silhouette. It's chopped, and I'm not sure if anyone has really noticed it yet:

Dragonfly's signature:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4141/sigej.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/sigej.png/)

The full picture:

http://daleyus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/brad_pitt_as_jesse_james2.jpg

Make of it what you will, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to slip a disguised clue by the town.

Very interesting.....

We need to collectively come together tomorrow and choose between the inactive members and Dragonfly who is also on that list of inactivity unless we find evidence against anyone else.

fick
15-04-2011, 17:04
DF's sig certainly does have a certain damning quality about it to be sure... :hmm:

Dale C.
15-04-2011, 17:07
:ohmy:

I'm off out now, but what a bombshell! I hope I don't annoy everyone tonight with my paranoid behaviour, damn you Dragonfly ¬__¬

fick
15-04-2011, 17:09
:ohmy:

I'm off out now, but what a bombshell! I hope I don't annoy everyone tonight with my paranoid, alcohol induced behaviour, damn you Dragonfly ¬__¬

I've corrected that for ya Dale ;)

Almost sounds like an early warning for a spell in the grey! :laugh:

Hunter
15-04-2011, 17:14
:ohmy:

I'm off out now, but what a bombshell! I hope I don't annoy everyone tonight with my paranoid behaviour, damn you Dragonfly ¬__¬

We'll excuse your later posting brother, and don't worry, enjoy your drinking safe in the comfort that I won't ban you - I usually find it hilarious. :lol:

It's going to be an interesting day or two now, especially with us not being able to lynch. It'll be interesting to see how Dragonfly responds to all of this as well, but I'm sure we can already guess he'll refute it of course. I might just be looking too far into things, but I honestly believe I've a reason to look into it this time as it is highly suspicious.

Joel
15-04-2011, 17:22
It's a good spot, Hunter. As said, I'm sure Dragonfly will defend himself and say it is just a signature.

But I do believe that he put the signature up after roles were given out. So it is very suspicious.

laughin man
15-04-2011, 18:02
I have arrived :dundons:

Just heard I was participating in this game off the lads dont have a clue whats going on...... yet :ninja:

Hunter
15-04-2011, 18:19
I'm quite confused, you signed up for it didn't you laughin man? Therefore you should have expected to be involved, and when it was starting.

Billy Minof
15-04-2011, 18:45
I have arrived :dundons:

Just heard I was participating in this game off the lads dont have a clue whats going on...... yet :ninja:

31 pages and 459 posts too late. :ninja:

Ali_BWFC
15-04-2011, 19:42
That's a good spot, Hunter, with regards to Dragonfly's sig. We need to weigh up how much of a threat we think Jesse James is, compared to the Daltons.

Appswah
15-04-2011, 19:47
Very good spot there Hunter. Very Interesting to see how DF replies.

And in reply to those who have commented on how much I've posted. My lack of posts is due to lack of anything to go on. I don't see the need to post when I've got nothing to share.

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 21:28
I've just noticed something about Dragonfly that I think should at least be put out there; his signature.

It's almost disguised. A silhouette. It's chopped, and I'm not sure if anyone has really noticed it yet:

Dragonfly's signature:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4141/sigej.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/sigej.png/)

The full picture:

http://daleyus.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/brad_pitt_as_jesse_james2.jpg

Make of it what you will, but it wouldn't be the first time someone has tried to slip a disguised clue by the town.

:laugh: Good bit of investigation. I'm not going to try to argue it too much, but it's just simply a case of me having watched The Assassination of Jesse James a few days before WWW started. I spent a bit of time searching for images from the film to be my western themed sig and that was my favourite of the bunch.

Now, I'm sure someone will look through the What Movie Have You Watched thread and notice I haven't posted that I watched it, but I rarely could be arsed to write reviews nowadays, so I only visit that thread for recommendations.

If you're going to look for suspicious images, look no further than my avatar; one of the biggest bastards of the West. However, that's not why I chose him. I think he has one of the best faces of all time. Yes, I have a thing for faces (and names). Ujfalusi being one of the best face-name combos.

So there. You need to know me in the real world to understand that this is not unusual for me.

Michu
15-04-2011, 21:34
Ujfalusi looks like he could lead a Viking army into war. Quite a fellow.

Joel
15-04-2011, 21:36
A good explanation, DF.

I just have a feeling that you are the type of person who would like to drop a little clue here and there.

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 21:45
A good explanation, DF.

I just have a feeling that you are the type of person who would like to drop a little clue here and there.

True, but I honestly didn't think about it. It was purely aesthetics. I didn't even know there was a Jesse James until Sminky brought it up. To be honest, I was starting to become suspicious of you (and Billy), but then Hunter throws this shit into the mix.

fick
15-04-2011, 21:50
True, but I honestly didn't think about it. It was purely aesthetics. I didn't even know there was a Jesse James until Sminky brought it up. To be honest, I was starting to become suspicious of you (and Billy), but then Hunter throws this shit into the mix.

Now you know how I felt in the last wars!

I can understand your choice of sig image for aesthetic reasons, but sill have doubts about the intent... :hmm:

Billy Minof
15-04-2011, 21:51
True, but I honestly didn't think about it. It was purely aesthetics. I didn't even know there was a Jesse James until Sminky brought it up. To be honest, I was starting to become suspicious of you (and Billy), but then Hunter throws this shit into the mix.

:laugh:

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 21:54
If we're being honest here, is Matt's lack of relevant posting anything new? In any thread?

Matt strikes me as the kind of member that would be posting shit, regardless or relevance, especially since Dale is one of the highest posters in this thread. They tend to come in pairs, so I'm actually starting to think of making a Matt-sized hole in my noose.

Joel
15-04-2011, 21:55
True, but I honestly didn't think about it. It was purely aesthetics. I didn't even know there was a Jesse James until Sminky brought it up. To be honest, I was starting to become suspicious of you (and Billy), but then Hunter throws this shit into the mix.

Be careful with throwing out names as soon as the spotlight is on you. People round these parts see this as a villian tactic ;)

You've got to understand why it is so suspicious though? There is not much to go on and then Hunter comes up with a good discovery. Your signature is indeed Jesse James, who just entered this game last night...

It's just weird. Coincidence? We're just going to have to see about that.

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 21:56
Be careful with throwing out names as soon as the spotlight is on you. People round these parts see this as a villian tactic ;)

You've got to understand why it is so suspicious though? There is not much to go on and then Hunter comes up with a good discovery. Your signature is indeed Jesse James, who just entered this game last night...

It's just weird. Coincidence? We're just going to have to see about that.

I fear that I know what that means. :crymore:

Michu
15-04-2011, 21:56
As voting was unable to take place today, Night 3 has now started. You can post up until 10:30pm.

Anyone persistently posting after 10:30pm will have their ability to vote on Day 4 frozen and any ability removed indefinitely. Or until I decide to reinstate it.

Anyone dead persistently posting will be blocked from being reinstated in the event a player drops out.

The law hath spoken!

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons1/192/1922283/33_2009/773250315a91b5df_lawman.jpg

Joel
15-04-2011, 21:57
Means nothing right now :lol:

Voting is suspended today. We can't do shit.

Phatmann
15-04-2011, 21:59
It's a good spot, Hunter. As said, I'm sure Dragonfly will defend himself and say it is just a signature.

But I do believe that he put the signature up after roles were given out. So it is very suspicious.
Joel, when you say after roles were given out, do you mean after Sminky had sent off the PMs or once the game had begun or once the Jesse James role had been revealed? As far as I know none of us were aware of a Jesse James role before yesterday so the timing of Dragonfly's sig is key here.

fick
15-04-2011, 22:00
I fear that I know what that means. :crymore:

If it's any consolation, you're not high on the list... Yet.

Means nothing right now :lol:

Voting is suspended today. We can't do shit.

But a voting ban on the next day could be detrimental. That is of course unless you're a filthy bandit who's happy for the town to be blocked...

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 22:04
Joel, when you say after roles were given out, do you mean after Sminky had sent off the PMs or once the game had begun or once the Jesse James role had been revealed? As far as I know none of us were aware of a Jesse James role before yesterday so the timing of Dragonfly's sig is key here.

I hope you're not suggesting I uploaded the sig once the name Jesse James was revealed, because it was done before the game started, let alone the reveal.

Joel
15-04-2011, 22:10
Joel, when you say after roles were given out, do you mean after Sminky had sent off the PMs or once the game had begun or once the Jesse James role had been revealed? As far as I know none of us were aware of a Jesse James role before yesterday so the timing of Dragonfly's sig is key here.

A lot of people changed their avatars and signatures before Sminky sent PMs out. But if I am not mistaken, DF added his signature after the PMs were sent out.

But a voting ban on the next day could be detrimental. That is of course unless you're a filthy bandit who's happy for the town to be blocked...

No idea what that has to do with my post. But yeah, it would be very bad.

fick
15-04-2011, 22:15
No idea what that has to do with my post. But yeah, it would be very bad.

You were inferring that being prevented from voting for a lynch due to posting in here after 10:30 would not be a issue as the town was stopped during the last day period. The penalty would however only come into effect during the next day phase when the town can theoretically vote again, hence my comment that the only people who would welcome a town block on lynching would be bandits... :hmm:

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 22:17
A lot of people changed their avatars and signatures before Sminky sent PMs out. But if I am not mistaken, DF added his signature after the PMs were sent out.

You're starting to make me doubt myself, now. I'm not sure if this is breaking the rules of the game, but is there any way for admins to check when avatars and sigs were changed? I'm sure you're able to do it with posts, but I'm not sure if your powers extends to this.

Phatmann
15-04-2011, 22:19
A lot of people changed their avatars and signatures before Sminky sent PMs out. But if I am not mistaken, DF added his signature after the PMs were sent out.



No idea what that has to do with my post. But yeah, it would be very bad.
D'oh, I think I was looking at it from a different angle. I thought the suspicion was that Dragonfly wanted to "assassinate Jesse James" inferring that he had some sort of killing power, possibly a Dalton. Now I'm realising that you probably meant that you suspect that Dragonfly is Jesse James. It's an interesting theory and it would certainly have been a mighty bold move from Dragonfly if it's correct.

Joel
15-04-2011, 22:20
You were inferring that being prevented from voting for a lynch due to posting in here after 10:30 would not be a issue as the town was stopped during the last day period. The penalty would however only come into effect during the next day phase when the town can theoretically vote again, hence my comment that the only people who would welcome a town block on lynching would be bandits... :hmm:

Nope.

Regarding DF's sig, I said it may be too good to be just a coincidence. DF said that he knows what that means. I then said it means nothing right now, because we can't vote (due to the voting ban, not the time of day).

Nothing more, fick. Seems you may be trying to find something that isn't there. Or put something in some place...

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 22:22
Nope.

Regarding DF's sig, I said it may be too good to be just a coincidence. DF said that he knows what that means. I then said it means nothing right now, because we can't vote (due to the voting ban, not the time of day).

Nothing more, fick. Seems you may be trying to find something that isn't there. Or put something in some place...

Does this mean we can suspect Fick? I'm ready to get him if you are.

http://img.over-blog.com/300x306/3/01/25/75/WESTERN-14/ZORRO-Van-Cleef--6-.jpg

fick
15-04-2011, 22:27
Does this mean we can suspect Fick? I'm ready to get him if you are.

If you are expecting a Smudgeresque "lynch me" speech, then I am afraid you are going to be disappointed.

If, however, you want to push a few button to see where people lie and maybe get a few slip-up's that might reveal something useful... then I suggest you get back on you horses & drink your milk.

Joel
15-04-2011, 22:28
Does this mean we can suspect Fick? I'm ready to get him if you are.

http://img.over-blog.com/300x306/3/01/25/75/WESTERN-14/ZORRO-Van-Cleef--6-.jpg

Maybe. But let's deal with you first :tongue:

Dragonfly
15-04-2011, 22:30
I don't think I'll be sleeping tight, tonight.

http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/69/55/11695526_gal.jpg

Michu
15-04-2011, 22:34
Posting amnesty period has now passed ...

As voting was unable to take place today, Night 3 has now started. You can post up until 10:30pm.

Anyone persistently posting after 10:30pm will have their ability to vote on Day 4 frozen and any ability removed indefinitely. Or until I decide to reinstate it.

Anyone dead persistently posting will be blocked from being reinstated in the event a player drops out.

The law hath spoken!

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons1/192/1922283/33_2009/773250315a91b5df_lawman.jpg

Hunter
16-04-2011, 03:43
Just got in from some darn whiskeys, wondering if it's worth mentioning in the title not just whether it's day and night, but what day and night it is - e.g. Day 3, Night 3 etc, as it's quite difficult shuffling through the pages to see how many victims there's been etc, whereas if there's a number on the day/night it might make things a little easier.

What day is it now anyway - Night 3?

PS: This is obviously not tactical talk in anyway, just talk about the thread title.

EDIT: I've just added the '3' to the title to confirm the Night number, and I'll do so from now on too. Every little helps to make the game less confusing of course.

Dale C.
16-04-2011, 10:53
Fuck me my head. Feels like an elephant just stuck its dick in my head, whirled it around, pulled out and spunked (the bastard), and then tombstoned my cerebral cortex :faceplm:

It's that darn whiskey in that darn saloon, fucking lethal stuff :laugh:

I'm at my mates house today, so I won't be able to post much until very late on, if at all. Just letting you know why I won't post that much today like.

muscularmatt
16-04-2011, 13:06
Dale, you lightweight. Get some fucking nuts. Errr, partner.

Michu
16-04-2011, 13:34
Cheers Hunter, the Day and Night counter is top idea :) Helps me keep up to speed with my notes and schedule.

Hunter
16-04-2011, 13:37
Cheers Hunter, the Day and Night counter is top idea :) Helps me keep up to speed with my notes and schedule.

No problem. I just can't believe it's took us all this long to realise it's worth doing. :lol:

Michu
16-04-2011, 13:44
Good point, it would have made life alot easier for me last time out thats for sure :D

TH
16-04-2011, 13:54
Dale you're always half seas over after one whiskey!

Billy Minof
16-04-2011, 14:14
Good point, it would have made life alot easier for me last time out thats for sure :D

:laugh:

Hunter you should drink more regularly,you get your greatest creative ideas then. :point:

Michu
16-04-2011, 20:12
Sun arises across the western plains. You may post again. Summary at 10pm

Ali_BWFC
16-04-2011, 20:35
I'll just mention that I won't be around to post at all tomorrow. So if my vote is needed for a lynch, maybe Sminky could vote on my behalf for the majority vote?

Dale C.
16-04-2011, 20:39
I doubt he'd be able to do that mate, who knows though.

As much as it pains me to agree with Smudger, as soon as our voting is enabled we do need to push for a lynch. Possibly Dragonfly for his Jesse James theme? Appswah or another person who hasn't posted and got involved as much? I don't know.

We need to do something though, because the saloon being closed has me panicking (and not just because I don't get my whiskey! Pesky bandits!).

Ali_BWFC
16-04-2011, 20:57
I doubt he'd be able to do that mate, who knows though.

As much as it pains me to agree with Smudger, as soon as our voting is enabled we do need to push for a lynch. Possibly Dragonfly for his Jesse James theme? Appswah or another person who hasn't posted and got involved as much? I don't know.

We need to do something though, because the saloon being closed has me panicking (and not just because I don't get my whiskey! Pesky bandits!).

Yeah, it's probably a long shot, but there's no harm in asking.

Dragonfly is the most likely target for me. I'm not convinced by his arguments when he was questioned about his sig.

Hunter
16-04-2011, 21:02
If you're going to look for suspicious images, look no further than my avatar; one of the biggest bastards of the West. However, that's not why I chose him. I think he has one of the best faces of all time. Yes, I have a thing for faces (and names). Ujfalusi being one of the best face-name combos.

So there. You need to know me in the real world to understand that this is not unusual for me.

It's not as simple as that though is it, or it at least doesn't seem to be. There's a difference between your avatar and your signature. Your avatar is so 'in your face' that nothing is hidden, or sneaky. It'd be almost too daring to have say Jesse James' face as your avatar. Whereas your signature displays not just Jesse James, but Jesse with a bandana over his face masking his identity, and doing so in such darkness that he's practically a silhouette. Then there's the now obvious fact the title Jesse James has been chopped from the image, which in some ways is a little understandable given sig sizes, but still.

It's a completely different situation than the avatar because the avatar is so brazen and bold, whereas the signature is so shrouded in mystery and darkness that no one even noticed it until several days in, and even then I found it through sheer pot luck. You can say I'm pushing this, and I'll agree, I am, to an extent, but at the end of the day you're the one who decided to change his signature to not just something questionable, but something incredibly suspicious, and you did so before the reveal of the Jesse James role in the game which is even more suspicious.

Joel
16-04-2011, 21:03
Of course he can't vote for you, Ali :lol:

The whole sig situation just seems too much to be a coincidence. You'd think the same if you saw someone with a Grat Dalton signature, right DF?

Hunter
16-04-2011, 21:08
Of course he can't vote for you, Ali :lol:

The whole sig situation just seems too much to be a coincidence. You'd think the same if you saw someone with a Grat Dalton signature, right DF?

It's not just the fact that it's a Jesse James signature, but it's been practically hidden in plain sight.