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I'm not too sure on Phatmann. As I said, I was suspicious last night because most of his posts have been concerning whether there is a third party and not about chasing the Dalton's out.
But when I checked his posts, I just thought he looked confused.
But you do make some very good points, Papa.
I think the appearance of confusion is his main tactic though. Dispel any possible belief that he is a criminal mastermind by acting ignorant, in a Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze type way. Your point about his concentration on the third party aspect is a very good one and only strengthens my suspicion.
laughin man is a weird one. On one hand, I'm thinking he signed on late to lynch Apps, so he can't be a Dalton. But then, the mafia players are evolving and they are learning that sometimes you have to sacrifice, in order to make everyone else look clean.
Then there is thing. He keeps on saying how I am suspicious and he wants me dead. Now, I was hell bent on getting rid of Dragonfly. That couldn't have gone unnoticed with the mafia. And also, when Dale brought up Appswah's situation, I more or less changed voted him straight away.
I keep expecting at the start of the new day, that the Dalton's will have killed me. But it is yet to happen. So it has me thinking that maybe laughin man in indeed a Dalton and because he continues to be on my case and looking saying, "I want Joel dead", they know they can't strike yet, because when people look back on the evidence, laughin man is the number one suspect.
And if he wasn't a Dalton, then why wouldn't they have killed me and pinned it on him?
Some more good points here. Also with the late vote for Appswah, let's remember that Dundon's actively phoned him and Billy to come and vote. He therefore had a direct challenge to come and vote from someone who I believe is a Texan.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 15:25
Yeah I seen that but since the rules are different than I thought im thinking your gonna have to agree to a duel to the death...
I'm not gonna agree to a dual if it could get me killed.
I don't really want to post what he said. But he is telling me I should go for someone. As he was mafia there is no reason to trust him. so I will totally ignore what he said and carry on the way I am. I just wanted to check if I was the only one he was trying it on with?
Also think its breaking the rules for a dead person to PM players, sminky?
Why would you assume I'm bluffing, when I never even told you what he said?
What benefit would that get me?
That statement from you has just put you right back up to the top of my list.
First of all, why would he PM you and not anyone else? Also, without proof, we can't actually know that you're telling the truth. I'm not saying that you ARE bluffing, just that we can't take your word for it.
I mean, I could just as easily say that I got a PM from Sminky saying that laughin man is a big pillock and that we should lynch him. I didn't, but it's very easy for me to say that.
Bammers05
21-04-2011, 15:29
I fingered Joel
:huh:
I'm not gonna agree to a dual if it could get me killed.
:faceplm:
For the tenth time...the duel's are just banter. You will not die if you lose a duel. I've had two in my time here - I beat Dale in the first, and lost to Robert Dalton in the second (of which was a battle of the Deadmen).
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 15:29
I'm not gonna agree to a dual if it could get me killed.
First of all, why would he PM you and not anyone else? Also, without proof, we can't actually know that you're telling the truth. I'm not saying that you ARE bluffing, just that we can't take your word for it.
I mean, I could just as easily say that I got a PM from Sminky saying that laughin man is a big pillock and that we should lynch him. I didn't, but it's very easy for me to say that.
I asked a question to see if anyone else came forward, but your instant response is your bluffing, I didnt even say anythign that it said, why would you not ask that first? I have voted for you now, I already doubted you and that just put you over the top.
who mentioned laughing man?
laughin man
21-04-2011, 15:31
I think the appearance of confusion is his main tactic though. Dispel any possible belief that he is a criminal mastermind by acting ignorant, in a Verbal Kint/Keyser Soze type way. Your point about his concentration on the third party aspect is a very good one and only strengthens my suspicion.
The third party came up because I believe him to be acting like Bammers did in the last game and he was third-party. Also because he voted for the Daltons I dont believe him to be one and yet I still suspect him so third-party is the only viable option for me.
Some more good points here. Also with the late vote for Appswah, let's remember that Dundon's actively phoned him and Billy to come and vote. He therefore had a direct challenge to come and vote from someone who I believe is a Texan.
I voted for two Daltons to be lynched, the facts speak louder than your shit talk.
I'm not gonna agree to a dual if it could get me killed.
It slipped my mind the Daltons were cowards, so be it you hide like the rat you are but that wont save you from the lynch. We comin for you boy!
I don't really want to post what he said. But he is telling me I should go for someone. As he was mafia there is no reason to trust him. so I will totally ignore what he said and carry on the way I am. I just wanted to check if I was the only one he was trying it on with?
Also think its breaking the rules for a dead person to PM players, sminky?
Why would you assume I'm bluffing, when I never even told you what he said?
What benefit would that get me?
That statement from you has just put you right back up to the top of my list.
Take a screenprint of your inbox, showing that you recieved a PM from Dragonfly.
Your so full of shit its scary, what makes you think your even high on the list of people the Daltons want dead from where im sitting your doing no more than anyone else.
Before Dragonfly was lynched, all I was doing was targetting him. Over something as little as a signature. Whilst people were saying that it could be a coincidence and it was not enough to go on, I continued on and on and on.
When everyone turned their attention to Apps, I was the one who brought up the fact that Apps didn't vote for DF, once again placing him in the spotlight.
I don't know whether I am on top of their hit list, but after hounding one of their partners so much, I'd think they would rather have me out of the game.
If you want to get stupid on me like that let me return the favour, I thought I was gonna get killed last night but obviously the Daltons were frightened because I fingered Joel and if they killed me then Joel would be found out.
Nearly as bad as your reason on why you have been trying to put me in the shit.
Does me voting for the lynch on two of the Daltons not count for anything. Perhaps the fact that the first lynch wouldnt have happened without me may even help some of the "smarter" players realize im the real deal *spits on ground*
I did think that at the beginning. But you've hid behind that a few times now.
Without Minof we wouldn't have lynched Matt either, but I don't see him going on about it...
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 15:36
:faceplm:
For the tenth time...the duel's are just banter. You will not die if you lose a duel. I've had two in my time here - I beat Dale in the first, and lost to Robert Dalton in the second (of which was a battle of the Deadmen).
Well laughin man was saying that he wants the rules changed. If they do change, I'm not agreeing to it.
I asked a question to see if anyone else came forward, but your instant response is your bluffing, I didnt even say anythign that it said, why would you not ask that first? I have voted for you now, I already doubted you and that just put you over the top.
who mentioned laughing man?
No.... my response is that you COULD be bluffing. I'm not accusing you of bluffing, all I'm saying is that we can't take your word for it. You could be using it as a way to distance yourself from DF, because after all.... why would he PM a Dalton?
If you've voted me, you're just as big an idiot as laugin man. Same goes with anyone else who votes for me. I actually believe that the fact I've been under suspicion lately has helped me survive the Dalton lynchings..... because why would they lynch a Texan that is under suspicion when there is a chance that he could get voted out? Think about it. Anyone who has been mafia with me in the 1st game (so that's just Bish who's left) will know that we never lynched the main townie suspects (ie Hunter and Dale), because there was no need. Just let the town make that decision.
laughin man
21-04-2011, 15:39
I did think that at the beginning. But you've hid behind that a few times now.
Without Minof we wouldn't have lynched Matt either, but I don't see him going on about it...
What else do I have to hide behind? These are the facts and you better get used to them because that is my defence, FACTS!
Your second comment is just stupid so I wont even reply out of self respect.
you think your so good big shot you fight me, since Ali's being a little bitch about it lets see how you feel about a fair fight between men.
I challenge you JOEL to a duel to the death!
Why am I beginning to get the feeling that there is a 3rd faction here?
Bammers suspected LM with what seem like a definite nudge towards the town, that linked with his back from the dead role. LM, who has quite rightly voted for two Dalton lynches wants Ali dead for no apparent reason. Could it be that LM while not a Dalton, could be another non-town faction?
I really do have my suspicions of LM despite his lynch voting. I maybe wrong, but I am sure Bammers was onto something.
As for the Ali lynch today, the case against Phatt's was much more compelling :hmm:
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 15:45
What else do I have to hide behind? These are the facts and you better get used to them because that is my defence, FACTS!
Your second comment is just stupid so I wont even reply out of self respect.
you think your so good big shot you fight me, since Ali's being a little bitch about it lets see how you feel about a fair fight between men.
I challenge you JOEL to a duel to the death!
A very Amateur-like response there. :hmm:
What else do I have to hide behind? These are the facts and you better get used to them because that is my defence, FACTS!
We don't know whether Dundon's told you to come online and vote for Appswah, or just "come online and vote".
you think your so good big shot you fight me, since Ali's being a little bitch about it lets see how you feel about a fair fight between men.
I challenge you JOEL to a duel to the death!
If you want me dead so much, why not just vote to lynch me and try to start a bandwagon? Why haven't you tried that so far?
Instead, you hop on my bandwagon as soon I started to point things out about Ali.
What else do I have to hide behind? These are the facts and you better get used to them because that is my defence, VAMPIRES!
A very Amateur-like response there. :hmm:
Now that's more like Amateur ;)
You know what guys? I'm going to go ahead and vote for Phatmann. I believe the evidence against him is far more compelling than that against anyone else and the fact that it seems like Bammers shared my suspicion just reinforces my choice.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 15:53
Take a screenprint of your inbox, showing that you recieved a PM from Dragonfly.
..
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If you've voted me, you're just as big an idiot as laugin man. Same goes with anyone else who votes for me. I actually believe that the fact I've been under suspicion lately has helped me survive the Dalton lynchings..... because why would they lynch a Texan that is under suspicion when there is a chance that he could get voted out? Think about it. Anyone who has been mafia with me in the 1st game (so that's just Bish who's left) will know that we never lynched the main townie suspects (ie Hunter and Dale), because there was no need. Just let the town make that decision.
Everyone that votes for me is an idiot, did you really just say that (well type) :laugh:
laughin man
21-04-2011, 15:53
We don't know whether Dundon's told you to come online and vote for Appswah, or just "come online and vote".
If you want me dead so much, why not just vote to lynch me and try to start a bandwagon? Why haven't you tried that so far?
Instead, you hop on my bandwagon as soon I started to point things out about Ali.
What are you on about, you jumped on the bandwagon. I started on Ali as soon as I seen his avatar, all you haters jumped the bandwagon punk ;)
Another girl's blouse refuses a duel, this towns full of clowns claiming to be cowboys
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What are you on about, you jumped on the bandwagon. I started on Ali as soon as I seen his avatar, all you haters jumped the bandwagon punk ;)
You was just using a flimsey argument as usual. You never voted for him until someone else said something.
Voted for him nice and early as well.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:00
Now that's more like Amateur ;)
Haha, true :D
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Everyone that votes for me is an idiot, did you really just say that (well type) :laugh:
I DID just write that.... because it's true.
Ok, so you did get a PM from DF. So now the next question is.... why you? I don't think you'd reveal it if you were Dalton. Assuming he did suggest you lynch a certain person, you have to judge yourself whether or not you believe him.
What are you on about, you jumped on the bandwagon. I started on Ali as soon as I seen his avatar, all you haters jumped the bandwagon punk ;)
Another girl's blouse refuses a duel, this towns full of clowns claiming to be cowboys
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So... you're voting for me because you're homophobic?
laughin man
21-04-2011, 16:04
You was just using a flimsey argument as usual. You never voted for him until someone else said something.
Voted for him nice and early as well.
Your argument is getting desperate at this stage.
Who is to be believed first,
the guy hiding behind words trying to spin a web of deceit or
the guy that straight out says I want you dead so lets cut the bullshit, walk outside and I kill you.
I aint afraid of dying, dying easy for men like me its living thats hard and when you know my word of death is true then you will know my word of life is then true.
Punk bitch *spits on ground*
hFJMNo8r8Xo
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:05
Haha, true :D
I DID just write that.... because it's true.
:laugh:
so your standing by the statment 'everyone who votes for me is an idiot'
I have lost all respect for you now, whether you're guilty or not, you have no reason to be so arrogant, its ridiculous.
Ok, so you did get a PM from DF. So now the next question is.... why you? I don't think you'd reveal it if you were Dalton. Assuming he did suggest you lynch a certain person, you have to judge yourself whether or not you believe him.
So... you're voting for me because you're homophobic?
I have no reason to trust a dead dalton, he did tell me to go for someone, but that is either a bluff or double bluff. whatever it gives us no further evidence, but I wanted to know if anyone else had received the same?
homophobia is term invented by homo's. LM has never showed any fear of you ;)
Your argument is getting desperate at this stage.
Who is to be believed first,
the guy hiding behind words trying to spin a web of deceit or
the guy that straight out says I want you dead so lets cut the bullshit, walk outside and I kill you.
I aint afraid of dying, dying easy for men like me its living thats hard and when you know my word of death is true then you will know my word of life is then true.
Punk bitch *spits on ground*
hFJMNo8r8Xo
you're really getting into your role aren't you :laugh:
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:11
:laugh:
so your standing by the statment 'everyone who votes for me is an idiot'
I have lost all respect for you now, whether you're guilty or not, you have no reason to be so arrogant, its ridiculous.
OK, sorry. I didn't mean to appear arrogant. How about this: If the town does vote for me, you'll all be left with egg on your face when the result is revealed :)
laughin man
21-04-2011, 16:12
LM has never showed any fear of you ;)
My thoughts exactly.
you're really getting into your role aren't you :laugh:
Yeah im enjoyin myself haha
Your argument is getting desperate at this stage.
Who is to be believed first,
the guy hiding behind words trying to spin a web of deceit or
the guy that straight out says I want you dead so lets cut the bullshit, walk outside and I kill you.
I aint afraid of dying, dying easy for men like me its living thats hard and when you know my word of death is true then you will know my word of life is then true.
Punk bitch *spits on ground*
hFJMNo8r8Xo
My argument is desperate? :laugh:
You're calling for a duel to the death! Something that isn't even in the game!
And then you're going to use that as an excuse to say you're not afraid of dying. Well laughin man, you wouldn't have died from it, because it's non existent.
That's just you; hiding behind anything possible.
"I was the reason Apps was lynched"
Well no. Dale should take credit for that for pushing it through.
"I want a due to the death. You don't. I r winrar!"
Yeah, well not really. Duel to the death isn't the game, dude.
You're self destructing. And the fact that Bammers - the detective - didn't trust you makes things worse.
What's going on, laughin man? You made a post without finishing it with a Clint picture, a youtube video or a *spit*.
Feels like the game is picking up, which is a bit surprising as I thought we'd struggle a bit today.
And the fact that Bammers - the detective - didn't trust you makes things worse.
A point I keep trying to make :folarm:
laughin man
21-04-2011, 16:16
My argument is desperate? :laugh:
You're calling for a duel to the death! Something that isn't even in the game!
And then you're going to use that as an excuse to say you're not afraid of dying. Well laughin man, you wouldn't have died from it, because it's non existent.
That's just you; hiding behind anything possible.
"I was the reason Apps was lynched"
Well no. Dale should take credit for that for pushing it through.
"I want a due to the death. You don't. I r winrar!"
Yeah, well not really. Duel to the death isn't the game, dude.
You're self destructing. And the fact that Bammers - the detective - didn't trust you makes things worse.
This is our game where anything is possible, if your man enough to accept the challenge then there will be a duel to the death.
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Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:21
My mind has been made up.
EDIT: So matt comes in to vote for me, but does fuck all else? Anyone else find that odd?
laughin man
21-04-2011, 16:22
A point I keep trying to make :folarm:
Did you not consider that he may have investigated Joel and he turned out to be town so he then protected him from suspicion?
Like I said I dont believe Joel to be a Dalton, im only challenging him now because hes pissin me off but I will kill him for it given the opportunity regardless of disposition.
My mind has been made up.
EDIT: So matt comes in to vote for me, but does fuck all else? Anyone else find that odd?
Matt just latches on to any old bollocks most of the time. I think most of us feel he's a fellow texan, but he isn't an important one if you know what I mean.
The way the votes are spread at the moment make me feel a lynch is still someway off.
Did you not consider that he may have investigated Joel and he turned out to be town so he then protected him from suspicion?
Like I said I dont believe Joel to be a Dalton, im only challenging him now because hes pissin me off but I will kill him for it given the opportunity regardless of disposition.
No I don't think he did. I have considered you suspect for sometime. Bammers comments only added fuel to that.
Did you not consider that he may have investigated Joel and he turned out to be town so he then protected him from suspicion?
Like I said I dont believe Joel to be a Dalton, im only challenging him now because hes pissin me off but I will kill him for it given the opportunity regardless of disposition.
You keep saying you want to kill me. Then do something about it. Either vote for me in the day, or kill me tonight if you're not lynched.
The way the votes are spread at the moment make me feel a lynch is still someway off.
Well I'm about to change my vote. I would like to state that Phatmann is still top of my list of suspicions but I also don't trust Laughin Man and there seems to be more chance of him being lynched than Phats.
Sminky, is it still 8 votes needed for a lynch?
LM does post aggressively but has done so in the past when he was townie. It makes himself dangerous though and that with Bammers' supposed hints makes me willing to vote for him.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:31
I have never suspected LM, but I would be willing to go with everyone to ensure a lynch as we are better doign something than nothing.
If the majority is voting for him anyway I might as well show you the PM from dragonfly. just need to scrn prnt
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:33
Sminky, is it still 8 votes needed for a lynch?
LM does post aggressively but has done so in the past when he was townie. It makes himself dangerous though and that with Bammers' supposed hints makes me willing to vote for him.
The thing is, in the last game he did appear to actually help the town. In this game, he's just accusing people with no real evidence.
I have never suspected LM, but I would be willing to go with everyone to ensure a lynch as we are better doign something than nothing.
If the majority is voting for him anyway I might as well show you the PM from dragonfly. just need to scrn prnt
Would it not be wise to PM Sminky & check with him if you should first?
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:34
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This is the message from DF, who as we know was Daltons. Could be a doubel bluff or not.
Also I never had any suspicions of LM before this, so why he sent to me I don't know
EDIT: sorry too late, the only rule about posting PMs is the one with your role as far as I'm aware. I did ask earlier if DF was breaking the rules, but no response.
I have never suspected LM, but I would be willing to go with everyone to ensure a lynch as we are better doign something than nothing.
If the majority is voting for him anyway I might as well show you the PM from dragonfly. just need to scrn prnt
Surely you would have suspected him even a tiny bit, as you made this comment:
Although I probably will vote for Ali myself, LM seems to be acting way different from the previous game!
Would it not be wise to PM Sminky & check with him if you should first?
Evidently not...
The thing is, in the last game he did appear to actually help the town. In this game, he's just accusing people with no real evidence.
I can't remember him being helpful in any game to be honest. He just seems to accuse Dale all the time, as long as he's in the game. Well we know he's definitely not Dalton.
That PM does confuse things a bit.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:37
Would it not be wise to PM Sminky & check with him if you should first?
He probably should have checked first, nevertheless... it's done now.
The thing is, why would DF single out LM ? I really don't know what to make of that PM.
I can't remember him being helpful in any game to be honest. He just seems to accuse Dale all the time, as long as he's in the game. Well we know he's definitely not Dalton.
Another point I raised after it being alluded to by Bammers :folarm:
Does no-one read my posts. :faceplm:
I really wish that you didn't show that PM, Smudger.
Dragonfly, you shouldn't have sent if either. Unless you was allowed to by using some perk.
Another point I raised after it being alluded to by Bammers :folarm:
Does no-one read my posts. :faceplm:
Hi mate, didn't know you were playing.
Hi mate, didn't know you were playing.
Who are you talking to Bish?
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:41
Surely you would have suspected him even a tiny bit, as you made this comment:
I suspect everyone a little bit, but I already made clear my top 3 and LM isn't in it.
Evidently not...
Sorry didn't see your post until it was too late. But I don't see why I should be the only one to see it if he's cheating.
Also doesn't make anything more clear anyway, why would he direct me towards a Dalton? he would only do this for the double bluff, or maybe he thought nobody would believe me, I must admit I never thougt of print screen until joel suggested it.
I really wish that you didn't show that PM, Smudger.
Dragonfly, you shouldn't have sent if either. Unless you was allowed to by using some perk.
The "undead PM perk"? Not sounding likeky, even with Sminky's weird sense of humour!
Hi mate, didn't know you were playing.
Git :tongue:
Who are you talking to Bish?
It was a joke to fick.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:42
I've not been on this forum that long compared to others. So maybe some of the older members could give a better opinion on the whole DF PM situation. I mean, would you say he's the type of person to bluff like that?
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:43
I really wish that you didn't show that PM, Smudger.
Dragonfly, you shouldn't have sent if either. Unless you was allowed to by using some perk.
why do you wish I never posted it?
EDIT
I've not been on this forum that long compared to others. So maybe some of the older members could give a better opinion on the whole DF PM situation. I mean, would you say he's the type of person to bluff like that?
He has to have known I wouldn't trust him as he was Daltons.
The "undead PM perk"? Not sounding likeky, even with Sminky's weird sense of humour!
:laugh:
Also doesn't make anything more clear anyway, why would he direct me towards a Dalton? he would only do this for the double bluff, or maybe he thought nobody would believe me, I must admit I never thougt of print screen until joel suggested it.
I didn't want you to screen print the message though. Just your inbox to prove that you wasn't bullshitting.
It was a joke to fick.
Whoooooooooosh.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 16:44
why do you wish I never posted it?
Because it puts things in doubt.
It was a joke to fick.
:faceplm: I know... That was the joke...
why do you wish I never posted it?
Cause I don't it was a legal move for DF to PM you that, so I don't think we should base our opinions on it.
:faceplm: I know... That was the joke...
Which makes you a git also. :folarm:
:faceplm: I know... That was the joke...
I'll get my coat.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 16:48
I really wish that you didn't show that PM, Smudger.
Dragonfly, you shouldn't have sent if either. Unless you was allowed to by using some perk.
Cause I don't it was a legal move for DF to PM you that, so I don't think we should base our opinions on it.
Legal or not he did it. I don't see why I should put myself at risk with doubts of LM because someone sent me a PM. Therefore now you all know why I am not sure of LM's guilt, but I would still be willing to vote for him becasue it could very easily be a double bluff.
Sminky, 7 is needed for a lynch, yeah?
Dragonfly
21-04-2011, 17:38
I cannot confirm or deny anything at the present moment.
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Sminky, 7 is needed for a lynch, yeah?
8 again Joel. Still enough of you active to keep it at 8 for the time being.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 17:56
Sminky what about the rules of dead people sending PM's?
Well folks, the missus is home so I am now expected to be sociable until she decides to bugger off to bed. Hopefully that will be before the close of play today, but if not then I've already made my decision in the voting thread, along with the reasons in here, so I'll have to leave the rest to you.
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This is the message from DF, who as we know was Daltons. Could be a doubel bluff or not.
Also I never had any suspicions of LM before this, so why he sent to me I don't know
EDIT: sorry too late, the only rule about posting PMs is the one with your role as far as I'm aware. I did ask earlier if DF was breaking the rules, but no response.
Whoa whoa fucking whoa. There'll be none of that. If Dragonfly wishes to PM other members fair enough but not directing players who to vote for when he's inactive.
Smudge you really shouldn't have posted that, you should have told me and I could have spoken to Dragonfly about this. This kind of thing goes against the the whole grain of the game. I accept it was probably just a bit of fun but its not fair on active players.
I'm making a ruling too ... As a result of the PM and Smudge posting it, all votes for Laughin Man are wiped. He is immune from lynching today and Day 7. I'll extend it to Day 8 as well if anyone makes a fuss.
There can be no voting 'persuasion' by dead members and certainly it should not be posted.
I knew some bullshit like this was going to happen.
Sminky, you can see that everyone who has voted for laughin man voted before that picture was shown.
Granted, but consider anyone thinking about changing their vote had it rock solidly reinforced to stick with it after the PM.
I know why Dragonfly PM'd Smudger as well persuading him to vote for Laughin Man but I can't obviously post why.
I need to set a precedent. I cannot allow Laughin Man to be lynched now this has been revealed. It questions the integrity of the game.
I appreciate you might have dealt with things differently but the decision is made.
Fair enough. But myself and others have put in too much effort this afternoon in trying to come to a decision in who could be a Dalton. We came up with laughin man, based on going back through posts and now not being able to vote for him because someone fucked up is bullshit.
No one told Smudger to screen print the message. I told him to screen print his inbox to prove he wasn't trying to pull a fast one and then he screen printed the message on his own accord.
Smudger shouldn't have posted what the message. But you say that you know why DF done it, which means it was a part of the game you made up, which means you should have told Smudger about the rules.
So all in all, we're being punished for other peoples mistakes. And basically, this entire afternoon was a waste of time.
Edit: In fact; mod kill me, please. The game is ruined, imo now. Not feeling it.
Edit2: Give one of the dead guys my spot.
Phatmann
21-04-2011, 18:38
While I, of course, reject your suggestion that I might be Dalton simply because I haven't posted as much as some of the others, I wanted to quote this post as it highlights another couple of people I suspect. A few others have mentioned Laughin Man, so I'll direct this post at Phatmann.
As Ali said, we should not judge someone on the number of posts they make, but Phatmann's posts have not only been few in number but much more importantly, non-committal and quite suspicious, especially surrounding the Dragonfly lynch.
On the night after we lynched Appswah, the Daltons took out Hunter (Jesse James). If you recall, the original suspicion about Dragonfly was that he may be Jesse James, but that quickly switched to him being Dalton after Appswah's actions (and Dale's detective work). By the time of the killing of Hunter by the Daltons and the beginning of day-time, everybody seemed clear that Dragonfly was a Dalton and was to be lynched.
Except Phatmann:
In between each of these posts was questioning from Bammers, who we now know to have been a cop of sorts, and declarations of intent to lynch Dragonfly. Yet even so, even by the third post when he is having to confess that the 'suspicion looks strong' (a very weak statement), he's still trying to sow the seeds of doubt in the town and try to save Dragonfly.
You would think that if Phatmann was not a Dalton with Dragonfly, but simply just truly believed him to be a Texan he might have shown some surprise then when Dragonfly's role was revealed, as those posts above can only really be read in two ways: 1- An innocent Texan, unconvinced by the overwhelming evidence and trusting of Dragonfly or 2- A conniving Dalton, desperate to save his partner. However, when the lynch, and Dragonfly's allegiance was revealed, there was no surprise, simply:
A mixture of this lack of surprise after seeming so unsure before, his non-committal to the cause of lynching Dragonfly, his unhelpful posts throughout the game, the numerical lack of posts Ali highlighted (even though I've not posted much more!), and Bammers' suspicion of him lead me to state quite categorically that I believe Phatmann is a Dalton.
I am not a Dalton. I was unconvinced by the argument that Dragonfly was Jesse James based on his sig, which was put forward by Hunter and was rather a weak argument I thought but everyone else seemed to be jumping on it. I turned out to be right in that respect as Hunter turned out to be Jesse James. Due to the fact that the sig thing was the driving force to convict Dragonfly, I thought it would be worth giving him a chance to defend himself. I noted that his absence wasn't helping his case and if you actually read the whole of my post which has "suspicion looks strong" in it, you'll understand that I did think it was worth voting for Dragonfly
Would Appswah be stupid enough to stitch up his own mafia buddy though? or maybe he really did believe Matt was more suspicious than Dragonfly? My instincts would say that Appswah is stupid enough and his suspicion of Matt was rather weakly put across.
After giving him 'til I got back from work to defend himself - and him failing to do so - I was happy to vote for him, believing that he was worth lynching.
Yes, I was unsure at first as I thought the sig thing was weak but if I wasn't fairly confident that he was part of the Daltons by the time I voted for him, I wouldn't have voted for him - like I didn't on the night Appswah was lynched. Yes I am non-commital at times but I think I've been that way in all of the games so far; I'm never the Bammers/Joel/Amateur/Hunter type in these games, that's just how I am.
Also, Bammers' suspicion of me? All he did was ask me what I thought of Dragonfly, that's hardly him trying to push for me to get lynched is it?
Bammers05
21-04-2011, 18:39
Sminky, I think as punishment, you should remove Smudger from the game and revive me :folarm:
Fair enough. But myself and others have put in too much effort this afternoon in trying to come to a decision in who could be a Dalton. We came up with laughin man, based on going back through posts and now not being able to vote for him because someone fucked up is bullshit.
No one told Smudger to screen print the message. I told him to screen print his inbox to prove he wasn't trying to pull a fast one and then he screen printed the message on his own accord.
Smudger shouldn't have posted what the message. But you say that you know why DF done it, which means it was a part of the game you made up, which means you should have told Smudger about the rules.
So all in all, we're being punished for other peoples mistakes. And basically, this entire afternoon was a waste of time.
Edit: In fact; mod kill me, please. The game is ruined, imo now. Not feeling it.
Edit2: Give one of the dead guys my spot.
See it from my point of view, if someone is lynched and then finds out that there was an active attempt to have him lynched behind closed doors then it makes the rules redundant.
It might seem unfair - and in terms of ruining the game Its nothing more than an inconvenience really - but I have to wipe the slate clean.
Yes it penalises the majority due to a minority but as I said before, a precedent must be set to ensure there isn't a repeat.
I'll give you time to chill and sleep on it before removing you from the game because you have been one of the games strongest players. If you feel on Saturday you still want out then I'll write you out. I would prefer not to though.
BarnDoor
21-04-2011, 18:49
If you feel on Saturday you still want out then I'll write you out. I would prefer not to though.
I however would be glad to do it.
Why don't I just do a write-up where the Daltons ride into town and there's a massive four-way shoot out between them, the Pinkertons, the 'Texans', and the ghost of Jesse James. Then a band of Comanche arrive and just slay them all and burn down the settlement.
It may well come to that!
See it from my point of view, if someone is lynched and then finds out that there was an active attempt to have him lynched behind closed doors then it makes the rules redundant.
I totally understand that. But at the same time, I also have to think about the other people who have worked hard to come up with an unaided decision. People who have gone through posts and posts to try and find the littlest clue. And now it is all for nothing, because one guy fucked up.
I'll give you time to chill and sleep on it before removing you from the game because you have been one of the games strongest players. If you feel on Saturday you still want out then I'll write you out. I would prefer not to though.
Nah, because tonight someone will die. And if we lynched laughin man on Saturday and it turned out he was a Dalton, then I'd just be even more pissed off.
Seriously, I can't continue in this game. TH14 had a role where he knew nothing at all, he can take over my spot.
Laughin Man only had 4 votes so I don't think it was a foregone conclusion. However, I understand your frustration. You know how it is on this side of the fence, you have to make decisions that govern the majority fairly. It won't always be popular.
I'll reinstate TH14 ... but not until tomorrow, I think you should sleep on it.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:10
Granted, but consider anyone thinking about changing their vote had it rock solidly reinforced to stick with it after the PM.
I know why Dragonfly PM'd Smudger as well persuading him to vote for Laughin Man but I can't obviously post why.
I need to set a precedent. I cannot allow Laughin Man to be lynched now this has been revealed. It questions the integrity of the game.
I appreciate you might have dealt with things differently but the decision is made.
the message hasnt swayed me towards votring laughing man, becasue DF was mafia, so if anything the message has more chance of swaying it the other way
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:16
Sminky, I think as punishment, you should remove Smudger from the game and revive me :folarm:
Fuck off, punish me for fucking what receiving a PM from someone. I didnt break any rules, I got a PM from someone and I shared it, there is no rule about that.
and suspending voting on LM is bullshit because if anything the message from DF swayed me away from voting not towards.
EDIT:sorry for the double post error
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:24
FFS smudger... you really should have asked Sminky about this.
However, Sminky, I feel you have been a bit rash. It kinda makes me think that you're doing this because LM is indeed Dalton. The PM means nothing! It could just be one dead member trying to fuck things up a bit. I don't want to lose Joel. Regardless of what role he's playing, he's played a good game. LM should not be immune from lynching. Because if he is Dalton... which I strongly think he is, it sways the balance too much in their favour.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:27
FFS smudger... you really should have asked Sminky about this.
However, Sminky, I feel you have been a bit rash. It kinda makes me think that you're doing this because LM is indeed Dalton. The PM means nothing! It could just be one dead member trying to fuck things up a bit. I don't want to lose Joel. Regardless of what role he's playing, he's played a good game. LM should not be immune from lynching. Because if he is Dalton... which I strongly think he is, it sways the balance too much in their favour.
fuck off 'ffs Smudger', what about fucking Dragonfly the guilty party?
I did fuck all wrong, why should I be but at risk when I dont vote for LM and everyone says why and I cant explain. I did fuck all wrong and I wont be blamed for this, there is one person who tried to cheat and it wasnt me.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:32
fuck off 'ffs Smudger', what about fucking Dragonfly the guilty party?
I did fuck all wrong, why should I be but at risk when I dont vote for LM and everyone says why and I cant explain. I did fuck all wrong and I wont be blamed for this, there is one person who tried to cheat and it wasnt me.
You should have known that posting that PM would bring up some shit. You should have just ignored it. Maybe that's why DF picked you? Because he'd knew you'd rise to the bait.
EDIT: Real mature with the bad rep btw and calling me a wanker :faceplm:
FFS smudger... you really should have asked Sminky about this.
However, Sminky, I feel you have been a bit rash. It kinda makes me think that you're doing this because LM is indeed Dalton. The PM means nothing! It could just be one dead member trying to fuck things up a bit. I don't want to lose Joel. Regardless of what role he's playing, he's played a good game. LM should not be immune from lynching. Because if he is Dalton... which I strongly think he is, it sways the balance too much in their favour.
I have to be fair to Laughin Man, he would have rightly complained bitterly if he'd been lynched and there was talk of lynching him in PM's.
Whether 1 PM or 10 PM's it was posted in the thread and it made the lynch unsafe.
Its not a decision I particularly wanted to make but it certainly wasn't governed by anything role or allegiance related.
As I said to Joel, I had to set a precedent. Its not popular but it certainly makes things clear.
Perhaps an overall vote should be taken whether to continue the game as I feel its been slightly undermined.
Phatmann
21-04-2011, 19:34
I don't think Smudger did anything wrong; he was right to bring up the fact that someone was trying to influence his vote, even if they are dead. What motive Dragonfly had for this is debatable. Was he trying to get a townie lynched or was he trying to sell his mates down the river like Appswah did with him? Unfortunately this has all detracted from discussing who we should be voting for for the lynch.
However, It shouldn't have been posted in the thread. It should have been PM'd to me to deal with.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:37
You should have known that posting that PM would bring up some shit. You should have just ignored it. Maybe that's why DF picked you? Because he'd knew you'd rise to the bait.
Fuck you, you was the first person to make out I was lying.
so DF baited me into getting voting suspended. have a word with yourself you nob, how would he or anyone else know sminky would over react?
like I said before and its the last time I'll say it. the message gave me reason to doubt LM's guilt and therefore I wanted everyone else to see the reason I was thinkning of not voting against him, so I was not suspected by everyone for not voting for him. I shouldnt be penalised becasue if DF cheating.
EDIT:
I don't think Smudger did anything wrong; he was right to bring up the fact that someone was trying to influence his vote, even if they are dead. What motive Dragonfly had for this is debatable. Was he trying to get a townie lynched or was he trying to sell his mates down the river like Appswah did with him? Unfortunately this has all detracted from discussing who we should be voting for for the lynch.
Thanks
However, It shouldn't have been posted in the thread. It should have been PM'd to me to deal with.
Then I would have been disadvanged.
Smudger you fucking knob! :faceplm:!!!!! Biggest facepalm moment in the history of the internet and the wild west. I was just catching up with everything, leaning towards voting laughin man because of what he was posting, and then the dragonfly message comes through and another twist happens?
The game is ruined Sminky, and you should punish Smudger, not us. Bang out of order.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:40
Smudger you fucking knob! :faceplm:!!!!! Biggest facepalm moment in the history of the internet and the wild west. I was just catching up with everything, leaning towards voting laughin man because of what he was posting, and then the dragonfly message comes through and another twist happens?
The game is ruined Sminky, and you should punish Smudger, not us. Bang out of order.
Dale fuck off you gay little midget, I did nothing wrong, so get on your tip toes and kiss my arse you wanker
Its a toughy Dale. I almost think its probably best starting again.
You ruined the game end of mate.
I don't think I want to play anymore. Totally wrecked the image of the west we had going on. Why post the message?
YOu're nothing but a joke. A stain of dishonour upon your family, a turd on the bottom of my foot, a footprint lost in the sands of time, a no-good TOOT-HOOTING YELLOW BELLIED SON OF A GUN!
What a way to ruin the game man, well done you.
EDIT: BOOKED, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
Edit: Fuck this, take me out of the game sminky. No I will not sleep on it, i'm out.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:44
You ruined the game end of mate.
I don't think I want to play anymore. Totally wrecked the image of the west we had going on. Why post the message?
YOu're nothing but a joke. A stain of dishonour upon your family, a turd on the bottom of my foot, a footprint lost in the sands of time, a no-good TOOT-HOOTING YELLOW BELLIED SON OF A GUN!
What a way to ruin the game man, well done you.
EDIT: BOOKED, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
Edit: Fuck this, take me out of the game sminky. No I will not sleep on it, i'm out.
I've already explained why I posted the message several times. Why have none of you shithouses got on Dragonflys back the person who tried to cheat
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:45
Sminky. I have a better idea. How about you suspend day and night activites for this round, but still allow discussion until 10:30pm. Then when the next daytime comes along, we start the voting afresh. Ban the guilty part from voting (ie smudger), and carry on as normal.
EDIT: BOOKED, WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
Edit: Fuck this, take me out of the game sminky. No I will not sleep on it, i'm out.
I had to Dale.
Even though he has pissed me off as well, you can't be insulting other members like that.
He never cheated within the rules of the game you moron, he can PM whatever he wants! He was probably doing it for a laugh, which in my opinion I found pretty funny.
YOU are the one who cheated you cretin. You're well aware you're not allowed to post PM's as evidence. Jesus christ.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:46
what fuck am I guilty of you fucking prick
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:47
what fuck am I guilty of you fucking prick
Calm it down, man! You're behaving like a child.
Its a shame but seems there is no choice now but to bring this game to a close - I firmly believe any decision other than making LM immune for 62 hours would have questioned the integrity of the game.
Correct decision Sminky. A good call on what was a RUINED game.
Oh well aye.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:48
He never cheated within the rules of the game you moron, he can PM whatever he wants! He was probably doing it for a laugh, which in my opinion I found pretty funny.
YOU are the one who cheated you cretin. You're well aware you're not allowed to post PM's as evidence. Jesus christ.
the only rule about posting pm's is posting the pm form the mod with your role.
Its abosolute bollocks that I'm getting the blame for this. I todl you my reasons for posting it. Why the fuck should I be disadvangted because he tried to cheat
Sminky. I have a better idea. How about you suspend day and night activites for this round, but still allow discussion until 10:30pm. Then when the next daytime comes along, we start the voting afresh. Ban the guilty part from voting (ie smudger), and carry on as normal.
I would but with Joel and Dale out the game and more likely to follow its too late now mate. It was a good idea mind.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:49
Its a shame but seems there is no choice now but to bring this game to a close - I firmly believe any decision other than making LM immune for 62 hours would have questioned the integrity of the game.
Sminky, can you hold you're decision until LM gives his opinion on this?
Whatever man, accept that you were in the wrong.
You're going down in the next game boy, in a spectacular way.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:50
Calm it down, man! You're behaving like a child.
Ali you're blaming me for ruining the game and I did nothing wrogn. I didnt try to cheat and the post was to show you all the reason I didnt think LM was guilty, and all you do is blame me without a word about dragon fly, who is the dead member trying to influence votes.
smudger2008
21-04-2011, 19:51
Whatever man, accept that you were in the wrong.
You're going down in the next game boy, in a spectacular way.
dale fuck off, you midget twat
Sminky, it is not your fault. The game was royally fucked from the time that image was uploaded.
Sminky, can you hold you're decision until LM gives his opinion on this?
I think we know what it would be. I know what mine would be if I were in his shoes.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:52
Ali you're blaming me for ruining the game and I did nothing wrogn. I didnt try to cheat and the post was to show you all the reason I didnt think LM was guilty, and all you do is blame me without a word about dragon fly, who is the dead member trying to influence votes.
DF was just playing mind games, you should have ignored him.
EDIT: Stop being so damn aggressive, calling everyone names. You ARE and adult aren't you?
I think we know what it would be. I know what mine would be if I were in his shoes.
Fair enough. If the game is officially over, can you at least reveal all the roles?
Sminky, it is not your fault. The game was royally fucked from the time that image was uploaded.
Cheers mate, still can't help feel like I've been booted in the spuds though.
Phatmann
21-04-2011, 19:55
Just suspend day and night and we'll go again in Day 7. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that?
Yup. I can reveal the roles. Give me some time to get everything together and if someone can unlock the Mod book thread that would be handy :)
Its ironic, the Old West was volatile, the thread seemed to go the same way as well!
Just suspend day and night and we'll go again in Day 7. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that?
We've lost Joel and Dale. I suspect other departures too. It seems to make the whole thing fairly futile.
Phatmann
21-04-2011, 19:57
Seriously? You're ending it here?
EDIT: They can be replaced.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 19:59
Just suspend day and night and we'll go again in Day 7. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with that?
This is what I want. I've been enjoying it until now. I mean, you wouldn't suspend a whole PL season if one team fielded an ineligable player, would you?
Or even Ineligible ;)
Fair enough, the game is suspended until Day 7. I'll give everyone enough time to comment in the mean time. If the majority are happy to continue then Bammers and TH14 will return to the game.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 20:07
Or even Ineligible ;)
Fair enough, the game is suspended until Day 7. I'll give everyone enough time to comment in the mean time. If the majority are happy to continue then Bammers and TH14 will return to the game.
I'd be happy with that. Though, I would like Joel and Dale back if they want to. Joel has been one of the most active in this game, would be a shame to lose him.
What the fuck have I returned to?.............I like it though.
I can just picture Dragonfly curled up in a corner sniggering with the mess he's created. If the game starts again then I probably won't be able to participate.
Well now that cretin has gone I can actually talk properly.
I'd be willing to return to the game if Joel is. He's been a major player for the town, and we've both had influence.
I just think the whole integrity and image of the game has been royally fucked in the ass. Even if we do return, it's not going to be as good as it could have been. It's been ruined plain and simple, but i'd be willing to play out the rest of the game even though it's going to be crap.
Dundon's
21-04-2011, 20:11
Dale and Joel need to man up and take it on the chin like the rest of us, sure there was good work put in but it's really not as if we're going to forget it in a few days when we double back on the LM theory.
Seriously lads, just roll with the punches for the sake of making life easier and going forward. Sminky has put in more effort than anyone else here and the man is just trying to keep things from getting nasty so he's making an example and putting down the law. As players we have no right to even question his decision and should therefore accept what he decides to be the final ruling. Maybe he can take on board what people said this once and come to some sort of compromise?
Nobody needs to take their ball here and go home. This game really should of been titled "Handbags At Dawn"
Bammers05
21-04-2011, 20:12
I think we should continue. I agree Ali and Phatmann that voting should be suspended for a day/night with Dragonfly and, perhaps, Smudger banned from the next Mafia Wars, but I don't think we should end the game here. I, also, think those who have said there out should be given the night to think it over. If they still want out after that, I'd be happy to be revived, but I hope they change their minds.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 20:18
Dale and Joel need to man up and take it on the chin like the rest of us, sure there was good work put in but it's really not as if we're going to forget it in a few days when we double back on the LM theory.
Seriously lads, just roll with the punches for the sake of making life easier and going forward. Sminky has put in more effort than anyone else here and the man is just trying to keep things from getting nasty so he's making an example and putting down the law. As players we have no right to even question his decision and should therefore accept what he decides to be the final ruling. Maybe he can take on board what people said this once and come to some sort of compromise?
Nobody needs to take their ball here and go home. This game really should of been titled "Handbags At Dawn"
This is one reason I believe why he shouldn't stop the game. Hopefully, this is the way that it's going.
The game will be fine, Dale. This is one minor hitch relating to one member - LM. We still don't know what role he actually has, the same with smudger, myself, Dale, Joel and so on and so forth.
There's still a way to wipe the slate clean here.
Smudger should be killed off due to his ban and lack of common sense. It's essentially turned into a real life Wild West. Unfortunately I can't help but feel that it'd be best for Laughin Man to stand down for the good of the game. He's of course done nothing wrong but due to Dragonfly being the ultimate dumb ass, a huge shadow is now cast over the War. It'd be wrong for LM to be killed off because of it, but stepping down/riding into the sunset with a swag of gold might be the best option to provide a completely clean slate across the town. Obviously LM may not like this at all, but I genuinely do think it may be the best and honourable option, and I doubt he'd go unrewarded, I'm sure we could come up with a reward in terms of a large credit payout, reputation etc.
Dragonfly needs to be banned from the next War though just for being such an utter penis. He's experienced enough to know how such actions will affect the game, and there's really no excuse.
I don't want any players to leave thats for sure but I respect their decisions to stand by their beliefs. The game will resume in earnest Saturday lunchtime.
At present Joel, Dale and Bishop have dropped out. I will reinstate Bammers, TH14 and Hunter. If another drops then Dragonfly will return.
Ok, so what is exactly happening?
Is day 6 and night 6 going to be suspended?
I take it you still want the mod book closed, Sminky?
Yes. A cooling off period.
I don't want any players to leave thats for sure but I respect their decisions to stand by their beliefs. The game will resume in earnest Saturday lunchtime.
At present Joel, Dale and Bishop have dropped out. I will reinstate Bammers, TH14 and Hunter. If another drops then Dragonfly will return.
I haven't dropped out. I was hoping this game would be finished before next friday as I'm on a stag weekend. I'll remain in the game until then, then can be replaced.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 20:22
There's still a way to wipe the slate clean here.
Smudger should be killed off due to his ban and lack of common sense. It's essentially turned into a real life Wild West. Unfortunately I can't help but feel that it'd be best for Laughin Man to stand down for the good of the game. He's of course done nothing wrong but due to Dragonfly being the ultimate dumb ass, a huge shadow is now cast over the War. It'd be wrong for LM to be killed off because of it, but stepping down/riding into the sunset with a swag of gold might be the best option to provide a completely clean slate across the town. Obviously LM may not like this at all, but I genuinely do think it may be the best and honourable option, and I doubt he'd go unrewarded, I'm sure we could come up with a reward in terms of a large credit payout, reputation etc.
Dragonfly needs to be banned from the next War though just for being such an utter penis. He's experienced enough to know how such actions will affect the game, and there's really no excuse.
I get what you're saying, the thing is that LM was under a lot of suspicion before the post.
I have a novel idea:
Either TH14, Bammers or Hunter replace smudger. LM has his role randomly switched with that of another. The same rules could apply to when Hunter came back from the dead in the last game, and wasn't allowed to reveal anything about the cult. It's a bit out there, but could work.
Billy Minof
21-04-2011, 20:23
Ok lads,
Heres the dealio, I gave ye the list of suspects yesterday before I got banged up for hte night and suspended from voting, I think ye are crazy to vote for LM as all I have read over the last few pages about him were nothing more than smear tactics, he is guilty of nothing yet.
We have a list of solid suspect so work with that first, ill be back tomorrow to solve more mysteries so until then, stay safe, milk the Bulls and never whip your arse back to front. ;)
PS. Stop moaning and get on with the game lads, whats done is done.
I'd like to declare myself forever dead as the legend, and legend alone should only remain of the late, great Jesse James.
I'm sure if a compromise is met - possibly one similar to what I've mentioned just a few posts above - that Dale and Joel will both continue playing. We're all men afterall, and this is essentially a game to play in our spare time. Lets not take it serious to the point of literally berating one another with sinister tones. We're all above that.
I have realised though that the rules do need to be more detailed. A new and binding stipulation is that anyone found guilty of PMing a player with the intent of coercing a vote will be banned outright or banned from the next game if already dead. As will anyone posting the PM.
I can't demand you don't talk to each other outside of the game by PM ...
... But ...
I would ask you honour the gentlemans agreement you enter into when playing this by not discussing the game by PM outside of the game.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 20:26
Ok lads,
Heres the dealio, I gave ye the list of suspects yesterday before I got banged up for hte night and suspended from voting, I think ye are crazy to vote for LM as all I have read over the last few pages about him were nothing more than smear tactics, he is guilty of nothing yet.
We have a list of solid suspect so work with that first, ill be back tomorrow to solve more mysteries so until then, stay safe, milk the Bulls and never whip your arse back to front. ;)
PS. Stop moaning and get on with the game lads, whats done is done.
Here here!
I'd like to declare myself forever dead as the legend, and legend alone should only remain of the late, great Jesse James.
I'm sure if a compromise is met - possibly one similar to what I've mentioned just a few posts above - that Dale and Joel will both continue playing. We're all men afterall, and this is essentially a game to play in our spare time. Lets not take it serious to the point of literally berating one another with sinister tones. We're all above that.
Fair enough.
I get what you're saying, the thing is that LM was under a lot of suspicion before the post.
I have a novel idea:
Either TH14, Bammers or Hunter replace smudger. LM has his role randomly switched with that of another. The same rules could apply to when Hunter came back from the dead in the last game, and wasn't allowed to reveal anything about the cult. It's a bit out there, but could work.
I'll assess the situation Saturday morning. It may have all changed again by then :)
laughin man
21-04-2011, 20:34
This has gotten pretty serious. I am honestly disappointed with Dragonfly pulling strings in the background it goes against the principles of the game in which obviously alot of us enjoy.
I do not want the game to stop, if it will solve the problem I will step down and go off on my missions trying to save towns that actually deserve it. So forget me and go back to the game, next game think properly before ya fuck around behind the scenes lads ;)
For the record I am infact town, good evening gents.
http://www.kentoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pale-rider03.jpg
I have realised though that the rules do need to be more detailed. A new and binding stipulation is that anyone found guilty of PMing a player with the intent of coercing a vote will be banned outright or banned from the next game if already dead. As will anyone posting the PM.
I can't demand you don't talk to each other outside of the game by PM ...
... But ...
I would ask you honour the gentlemans agreement you enter into when playing this by not discussing the game by PM outside of the game.
The only people who should be discussing the game via PM are the night guys. And that is only at night time.
Day time should be discussed ONLY in the game thread. It defeats the whole purpose of the game if it is done any other way.
One question Sminky, now that it has been done anyway, did Dragonfly have a role that allowed him to send that PM? Because it seemed as though you wasn't shocked that he sent the PM, but shocked that Smudger published it.
Thanks LM and sorry its ended this way for you.
Someone rep the man for being an honourable gent for falling on his sword. I will be.
The only people who should be discussing the game via PM are the night guys. And that is only at night time.
Day time should be discussed ONLY in the game thread. It defeats the whole purpose of the game if it is done any other way.
One question Sminky, now that it has been done anyway, did Dragonfly have a role that allowed him to send that PM? Because it seemed as though you wasn't shocked that he sent the PM, but shocked that Smudger published it.
No, he had no role that allowed that - But - I can't explain why I wasn't shocked mate because it would undermine another player.
Fair do's, laughin man.
*spits at him, out of respect*
Apologies, I really ought to know better spamming threads with multiple posts ...
Laughin Man has left the game. Seeking wealth and green pastures he leaves West Texas behind.
Laughin Man was a Standard Texan.
This has gotten pretty serious. I am honestly disappointed with Dragonfly pulling strings in the background it goes against the principles of the game in which obviously alot of us enjoy.
I do not want the game to stop, if it will solve the problem I will step down and go off on my missions trying to save towns that actually deserve it. So forget me and go back to the game, next game think properly before ya fuck around behind the scenes lads ;)
For the record I am infact town, good evening gents.
http://www.kentoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pale-rider03.jpg
Very honourable of you to do that.
Bammers05
21-04-2011, 20:40
What's now gonna happen in terms of voting today and people leaving the game?
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 20:41
This has gotten pretty serious. I am honestly disappointed with Dragonfly pulling strings in the background it goes against the principles of the game in which obviously alot of us enjoy.
I do not want the game to stop, if it will solve the problem I will step down and go off on my missions trying to save towns that actually deserve it. So forget me and go back to the game, next game think properly before ya fuck around behind the scenes lads ;)
For the record I am infact town, good evening gents.
http://www.kentoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pale-rider03.jpg
How do you feel about the "role switcheroo" that I mentioned above. I don't want you to leave the game this way. Regardless of your role, I've enjoyed our banter.
The only people who should be discussing the game via PM are the night guys. And that is only at night time.
Day time should be discussed ONLY in the game thread. It defeats the whole purpose of the game if it is done any other way.
One question Sminky, now that it has been done anyway, did Dragonfly have a role that allowed him to send that PM? Because it seemed as though you wasn't shocked that he sent the PM, but shocked that Smudger published it.
Well, the Daltons should have their own chatroom, which would mean that there's no need for PM sending. The only PM sending should be to Sminky about the other night roles.
EDIT: Nevermind, LM has gone. Looks like we got it wrong.
Phatmann
21-04-2011, 20:45
Bit of a shame to see Laughin Man step down as he didn't do anything wrong. Is Smudger still in the game? as he's currently banned from the forums...
Right here's the lay of the land ... Voting and night activity is frozen until Saturday.
Day Period resumes Saturday 1pm
Night Period Begins Saturday 10pm
Yep. You're back mate. I can't see Smudger wanting to return to the fray after his ban and Dale seemed determined to leave.
Billy Minof
21-04-2011, 20:57
Laughin Man was a Standard Texan.
;)
I salute you good sir, I knew you were a fellow Texan, I must be psychic or something, I have got every one right so far.
http://www.canmag.com/images/front/movies20084/appaloosa11.jpg
There's a new sheriff in town..
This has gotten pretty serious. I am honestly disappointed with Dragonfly pulling strings in the background it goes against the principles of the game in which obviously alot of us enjoy.
I do not want the game to stop, if it will solve the problem I will step down and go off on my missions trying to save towns that actually deserve it. So forget me and go back to the game, next game think properly before ya fuck around behind the scenes lads ;)
For the record I am infact town, good evening gents.
http://www.kentoz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pale-rider03.jpg
I, Jesse James, would like to honour your post by way of gratitude, and wealth. Being the Robin Hood-like figure, I have amassed quite a collection of change over the years performing robberies of the corporate railroads. I'd like to share my wealth with you, out of respect for your noble mind and strong heart.
With that said, I see yourself shy of the 3,000 credit mark. I've never performed such a duty before, and likely never will again, but such is my respect for yourself - I am handing over c.20,000 from the various Robin Hood adventures that I've endeavoured upon over the course of my famed life.
You know, we're not so different me and you partner. We both grew up on the side of the tracks that tells our very souls that the corporations and government control is the downfall of our very precious Southern land. We both fight for the cause, and grit our single-straw filled teeth while leading the charge against 'the man'.
I tip my hat to you.
http://img.listal.com/image/130361/600full-the-assassination-of-jesse-james-by-the-coward-robert-ford-poster.jpg
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 21:02
Yep. You're back mate. I can't see Smudger wanting to return to the fray after his ban and Dale seemed determined to leave.
I think Dale said he was back in as long as Joel was.
Yep. You're back mate. I can't see Smudger wanting to return to the fray after his ban and Dale seemed determined to leave.
Smudger's ban is only one day. And it seemed like Dale was just annoyed, but still wanted to play.
TH14 can have my spot. I rather just sit back and let the rest of this game play out now.
laughin man having to leave the game like that has left a bad taste in my mouth.
I ask everyone else to continue with this game though. Please.
I ask everyone else to continue with this game though. Please.
You and me both.
Now I'm back I won't have no tomfoolery or consequences will never be the same!
Smudger's ban is only one day. And it seemed like Dale was just annoyed, but still wanted to play.
TH14 can have my spot. I rather just sit back and let the rest of this game play out now.
laughin man having to leave the game like that has left a bad taste in my mouth.
I ask everyone else to continue with this game though. Please.
With laughin man now setting off on his great American adventure, this leaves an excellent opportunity for not just yourself, but the rest of the Texan community to honour LM by putting the nail in the Dalton Gang coffin and burying the case. Backing out and stepping down is not something anyone wants, because ultimately it detriments the War itself (which is now perfectly back on track with a clean slate), but it also goes against the very grain of being a man, which is what the West encapsulates.
Step up and honour LM, the great friend of the Texan town.
We all have our differences, but they get settled, you know why, because here, it's family.
Ali_BWFC
21-04-2011, 21:13
Welcome back TH14. Please contribute as much as Joel did :)
Sminky, does it still apply that if we get a Dalton lynched in the next round, a new special role is introduced?
Welcome back TH14. Please contribute as much as Joel did :)
Sminky, does it still apply that if we get a Dalton lynched in the next round, a new special role is introduced?
Yup
laughin man
21-04-2011, 21:25
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5163/5333636745_22f9ccb5e0.jpg
Well looks like TH has joined back in place of Joel, i'll stay in the game.
The fucked up, going-to-be-shit-for-the-rest-of-it-game :lol:
Fair play Laughin man, didn't think you had it in you.
With laughin man now setting off on his great American adventure, this leaves an excellent opportunity for not just yourself, but the rest of the Texan community to honour LM by putting the nail in the Dalton Gang coffin and burying the case. Backing out and stepping down is not something anyone wants, because ultimately it detriments the War itself (which is now perfectly back on track with a clean slate), but it also goes against the very grain of being a man, which is what the West encapsulates.
Step up and honour LM, the great friend of the Texan town.
We all have our differences, but they get settled, you know why, because here, it's family.
The town is in good hands, Jesse.
I have faith in these young guns.
With it being Easter time and all, it kind of feels like laughin man died for our sins :lol:
Bammers05
21-04-2011, 23:15
Please don't write in yellow, Joel. It hurts my eyes.
http://www.christianengl.de/smiley_ghost2.gif
Well what a fuck up that was. I suppose the only positive was that we didn't end up lynching one of our town. Lucky really as LM was tying his own noose there for a while (before Smudge's revelation I may add).
I'm okay to stay in, but do have an Easter weekend availability issues due to family commitments. I will endeavour to be as active as I can though. Certainly don't want to lay down the ten gallon yet.
Sminky has put in more effort than anyone else here and the man is just trying to keep things from getting nasty so he's making an example and putting down the law. As players we have no right to even question his decision and should therefore accept what he decides to be the final ruling.
Well put Dundons. Consider my hat doffed.
With it being Easter time and all, it kind of feels like laughin man died for our sins :lol:
Far too surreal to consider!
Please don't write in yellow, Joel. It hurts my eyes.
http://www.christianengl.de/smiley_ghost2.gif
Well if it is all the same with you, I will continue to write in gold and not yellow :joel:
I can't write in grey. I'm not dead.
I will write in blue. It will explain my sabatical. I have left Texas and have arrived on the beaches of Miami!
muscularmatt
22-04-2011, 00:52
Alright what the fuck's going on? Anyone care to do the 'can't be arsed to read the past five pages' version for me please?
Yeah. We can't be arsed to read the last few pages for you Matt. Do it yourself :faceplm:
muscularmatt
22-04-2011, 01:21
Well I'm assuming someone knows what the drama is about. Whoever they are could you gimme a quick Craig David?
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/mirror/dec2003/6/4/000D10F7-E4E2-1FEB-B43180C328EC0000.jpg
Ya wot, Kes? Don't call her that, Kes! She's not a slag, she's me mum!
Dragonfly
22-04-2011, 01:43
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/522688783_c919ce07c1.jpg
muscularmatt
22-04-2011, 01:55
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/mirror/dec2003/6/4/000D10F7-E4E2-1FEB-B43180C328EC0000.jpg
Ya wot, Kes? Don't call her that, Kes! She's not a slag, she's me mum!
No, I meant can you...
http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/172/172670_1_f.jpg
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Dragonfly
22-04-2011, 01:58
Oh, I thought you wanted us to tell you what our flavour is.
:faceplm: I know what you meant Matt, but it's just too much fun taking the piss.
DF sent Smudge a posthumous, illicit PM regarding LM. Smudge posted it. Everyone shook their heads in despair. Dale shook his too hard & got booked. Smudge was an idiot & got a wee ban. Sminky laid down the law. Joel threw his rattle from the pram & retired. LM was given a golden handshake & took of for Vegas rather than be made to continue under the pressure. The rest of us will continue, but not 'til 1ish on Saturday.
There were tears, blood and arguments followed by making up & some serious LM love-in.
It was very emotional.
That's the abridged version...
lol. Hopefully this huge fight covers up the fact that im shit at this game >.>
muscularmatt
22-04-2011, 02:08
:faceplm: I know what you meant Matt, but it's just too much fun taking the piss.
DF sent Smudge a posthumous, illicit PM regarding LM. Smudge posted it. Everyone shook their heads in despair. Dale shook his too hard & got booked. Smudge was an idiot & got a wee ban. Sminky laid down the law. Joel threw his rattle from the pram & retired. LM was given a golden handshake & took of for Vegas rather than be made to continue under the pressure. The rest of us will continue, but not 'til 1ish on Saturday.
There were tears, blood and arguments followed by making up & some serious LM love-in.
It was very emotional.
That's the abridged version...
I see. Please tell me who think were the biggest fags in this episode so I can troll them with the relevant vigour.
Oh, I thought you wanted us to tell you what our flavour is.
I liked that song!
I see. Please tell me who think were the biggest fags in this episode so I can troll them with the relevant vigour.
It's fairly obvious. I do however advise against trolling. It might be an improvement from your normal quality of posting & lead to a fear that your account has been hacked...
muscularmatt
22-04-2011, 02:28
Oh luls Fick, you never cease to bloat my head.
I can't believe I just read like 8 whole pages of board for that. Cancer in a can.
Dragonfly, you are a bastard of the very worst kind, although I can't help but admire the cheekiness of the sentiment...
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 11:33
Is someone actaully replacing LM? Because otherwise this whole debacle would have been pointless. If we would have carried on as normal yesterday, we would a lynched a townie.... but we didn't carry on as normal and we STILL lost a townie. Can you see where I'm coming from?
Dragonfly
22-04-2011, 11:36
Is someone actaully replacing LM? Because otherwise this whole debacle would have been pointless. If we would have carried on as normal yesterday, we would a lynched a townie.... but we didn't carry on as normal and we STILL lost a townie. Can you see where I'm coming from?
Yes. You're saying it was a win-win situation.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7UHICy8Etfo/TGxw1hZ5-pI/AAAAAAAAK7U/kTxAgJ6MF2M/s1600/lee-van-cleef2.jpg
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 11:45
Yes. You're saying it was a win-win situation.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7UHICy8Etfo/TGxw1hZ5-pI/AAAAAAAAK7U/kTxAgJ6MF2M/s1600/lee-van-cleef2.jpg
Stop haunting us, you dead Dalton bastard :realmad:
Please.... does anyone have the "exorcist" role so we can put this git to death for good!?
The power of Christ compels you!
The power of Christ compels you!
Dragonfly
22-04-2011, 11:59
A seance will easily bring me back.
http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/69/55/11695530_gal.jpg
Well if it is all the same with you, I will continue to write in gold and not yellow :joel:
I can't write in grey. I'm not dead.
I will write in blue. It will explain my sabatical. I have left Texas and have arrived on the beaches of Miami!
Yellow and blue text, Gambit Avatar and sig... nod to the Uncanny X-Men in full effect Joel?
Is someone actaully replacing LM? Because otherwise this whole debacle would have been pointless. If we would have carried on as normal yesterday, we would a lynched a townie.... but we didn't carry on as normal and we STILL lost a townie. Can you see where I'm coming from?
There is still the question of Smudger. Will he want to continue playing? Bammers will most likely be reinstated depending on what happens over the next 24 hours.
Dale and Joel need to man up and take it on the chin like the rest of us, sure there was good work put in but it's really not as if we're going to forget it in a few days when we double back on the LM theory.
Seriously lads, just roll with the punches for the sake of making life easier and going forward. Sminky has put in more effort than anyone else here and the man is just trying to keep things from getting nasty so he's making an example and putting down the law. As players we have no right to even question his decision and should therefore accept what he decides to be the final ruling. Maybe he can take on board what people said this once and come to some sort of compromise?
Nobody needs to take their ball here and go home. This game really should of been titled "Handbags At Dawn"
I forgot to comment at the time but thanks buddy :)
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 12:16
I cant get my head around it lads and dont know where I stand, there are people saying they are leaving but then staying, others saying they are leaving and being replaced and others leaving and not being replaced.......How in the fuck are we supposed to get it right, We had suspects but now some of them hve been replaced, others who I thought were Texans are being replaced by former Daltons.
I am not a quitter so wont be leaving the game but I cannot believe some of the shit that has gone down, people leaving and causing a big fuss over nothing, was the game undermined, yes, did people have to take there ball and go home, no....the game is ruined IMO and would love to get Lynched or Killed tonight, I had the list of suspects, ye went against the grain and were going to kill LM until he left town with his tail between his legs followed by Joel who I thought was another strong member of the Texan community but when the heat is on they run and hid in the desert..........
Fuck it im out lads, I cant be arsed, its like starting again without some of the best posters and characters that the town had, we had it won lads......ye fucked it up big time.
I'm confused Bill, you're not a quitter but you're quitting?!
So far only Joel and Laughin Man have left. Bammers and TH14 will be stepping in to their shoes.
I cant get my head around it lads and dont know where I stand, there are people saying they are leaving but then staying, others saying they are leaving and being replaced and others leaving and not being replaced.......How in the fuck are we supposed to get it right, We had suspects but now some of them hve been replaced, others who I thought were Texans are being replaced by former Daltons.
I am not a quitter so wont be leaving the game but I cannot believe some of the shit that has gone down, people leaving and causing a big fuss over nothing, was the game undermined, yes, did people have to take there ball and go home, no....the game is ruined IMO and would love to get Lynched or Killed tonight, I had the list of suspects, ye went against the grain and were going to kill LM until he left town with his tail between his legs followed by Joel who I thought was another strong member of the Texan community but when the heat is on they run and hid in the desert..........
Fuck it im out lads, I cant be arsed, its like starting again without some of the best posters and characters that the town had, we had it won lads......ye fucked it up big time.
:laugh::laugh:
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 12:55
There is nothing funny about it lads, the game has been undermined, people have died/been voted off whatever and the town were well on top of things,.........
Its just the more I think about it the more pissed off I am getting, you know, people have put days of work into it, none moreso than yourself included Smink, the game should be over, the town should win it pure and simple, I was working closely to the 2 people that have left the game and we kind of had the same suspicions, now I am going to be flying solo and will probably die anyway, look leave me in it if you want but I cant see it working, too many changes for my liking, its just a game and I shouldnt be getting angry about it but I am, what can I say?
EDIT: There is nothing confusing about it, I am not a quitter but cannot live under these circumstances and as I said I dont need to be getting angry at a game but people have deliberately destroyed it out of spite.
Yes its been a bit of a mare over the last 16 hours or so but I'd like to see the game play out.
Having had a night to sleep on it and to reflect, I don't think its irrevocably broken.
Fuck me what has happened here? :faceplm:
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 13:42
Yes its been a bit of a mare over the last 16 hours or so but I'd like to see the game play out.
Having had a night to sleep on it and to reflect, I don't think its irrevocably broken.
Ok so,
Please can you put up a new list of who is playing and who they have replaced and also if there role has been changed or if they have just been straight replacements.
As I said I was pretty sure that LM and Joel were Texans, I was proved right with LM who was witch hunted yesterday.
As I said I thought we had it pretty much under control and the Daltons were on there way to a slow and painful death but if the new recruits are taking up new roles then the last week for me has been in vain and I will be back to square 1.
Here was the old list of suspects:
Phatmann, Fick, Smudger, Ali, Papa,
Now not everyone who was on that list can be Dalton but they are the main suspects and if the group below stay together and strong and keep voting for the above then we should win.
Now I was fairly confident that Bammers /Joel/LaughinMan/Dundons/Dale and Matt were all Texan and if we stuck together we would finally rid the town of the Daltons. If Joel and LMs roles are now changed then its harder to narrow down our search, but you are right, its not over yet. :)
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 14:13
I don't know why you're sold on the idea that matt is a definite Texan. Based on what? The fact that DF and Apps voted for him? This was just an attempt to stop themselves from getting lynched, voting for one of their own would be a good way to make him appear innocent.
Plus, lets look at the other facts:
-He himself hasn't voted for either Apps or DF.
-He has done NOTHING to prove to me that he is working for the town.
-He says nothing for ages, then just jumps on the bandwagon when LM votes for me. I can't be the only one who finds that odd.
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 14:23
I don't know why you're sold on the idea that matt is a definite Texan. Based on what? The fact that DF and Apps voted for him? This was just an attempt to stop themselves from getting lynched, voting for one of their own would be a good way to make him appear innocent.
Plus, lets look at the other facts:
-He himself hasn't voted for either Apps or DF.
-He has done NOTHING to prove to me that he is working for the town.
-He says nothing for ages, then just jumps on the bandwagon when LM votes for me. I can't be the only one who finds that odd.
They could have voted for anyone, why choose him especially when Apps was still not a suspect.
I am not saying that I am correct, I could be completely wrong but I have been right so far and suspected the right people except for Apps who Dale suspected.
Personally I would choose Phats or Smudger first, followed by Papa, Fick then yourself seeing as you are the one defending yourself the most. :cool:
EDIT: everything could change in a instant though.
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 14:31
They could have voted for anyone, why choose him especially when Apps was still not a suspect.
I am not saying that I am correct, I could be completely wrong but I have been right so far and suspected the right people except for Apps who Dale suspected.
Personally I would choose Phats or Smudger first, followed by Papa, Fick then yourself seeing as you are the one defending yourself the most. :cool:
EDIT: everything could change in a instant though.
Well, I have to defend myself don't I? Especially when people are coming up with naff reasons to implicate me (like voting late etc).
I don't think Smudger is Dalton. Though it would be an interesting twist if it him and DF were working together, and that whole PM debacle was a sneaky tactic employed by the two of them. I think this is unlikely though.
I'm with you with Phats and Papa, and also the other names you lised as Texan. Can you tell me why you think fick is Dalton?
Why do people suspect me? I've written posts defending myself before that nobody's really replied to one way or the other.
For what it's worth, my number one suspect is Phatmann, followed by TheBishop (just a hunch). I believe Joel (if he's still about), Billy, Fick and Smudger (or whoever takes his place) to be Texan.
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 14:45
Why do people suspect me? I've written posts defending myself before that nobody's really replied to one way or the other.
For what it's worth, my number one suspect is Phatmann, followed by TheBishop (just a hunch). I believe Joel (if he's still about), Billy, Fick and Smudger (or whoever takes his place) to be Texan.
I'm more inclined to Phats than you, to be honest.
Hmmmm, Bish eh? I dunno about that one. I always find that he's a tough one to judge.
I highly suspect Mr.Phatmann too, something not quite right about that guy.
Dundon's
22-04-2011, 15:50
How's about an updated list of the remaining players so we can all see exactly who's left and who to suspect?
I think Billy isn't far off with his list of suspects give or take 1-2 Texans thrown in for good measure, but there are some Dalton boys in the mix for sure and we should work on smoking them out.
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 16:40
Are we back on track now so once Sminks gives us an updated list and is there a Vote today?
Are we back on track now so once Sminks gives us an updated list and is there a Vote today?
There will be an updated list sorted later today. First vote won't be until tomorrow, though. I'll let you lynch someone tomorrow afternoon if its unanimous.
Yellow and blue text, Gambit Avatar and sig... nod to the Uncanny X-Men in full effect Joel?
HOLY SHIT!
X-Men themed game!
This is so going to be done.
Why do people suspect me? I've written posts defending myself before that nobody's really replied to one way or the other.
For what it's worth, my number one suspect is Phatmann, followed by TheBishop (just a hunch). I believe Joel (if he's still about), Billy, Fick and Smudger (or whoever takes his place) to be Texan.
Fair enough, though this game is won in the voting thread. I've helped kill 2 Daltons, I don't believe you can say the same. It's interesting that you believe Billy to be texan, considering he's suspects you. Chelsea11 did the same thing with me in the last game after I suspected him and he turned out to be the mafia/fixers prize bloke. It's amost like you're trying to win him over to make him drop his suspicions.
Fair enough, though this game is won in the voting thread. I've helped kill 2 Daltons, I don't believe you can say the same. It's interesting that you believe Billy to be texan, considering he's suspects you. Chelsea11 did the same thing with me in the last game after I suspected him and he turned out to be the mafia/fixers prize bloke. It's amost like you're trying to win him over to make him drop his suspicions.
Yeah, I don't really know what my suspicion of you is based on, it's just something in the posting style that doesn't seem right. But then again now I think about it, I've thought the same in other games where you've been a townie.
I've trusted Billy for most of the game and I think his deductive reasoning has been helpful to the town. I obviously disagree with him on his suspicion of me but the rest seems spot on.
HOLY SHIT!
X-Men themed game!
This is so going to be done.
One step ahead of you mate. When I saw your Gambit Avatar I started drafting roles for it. Exciting life I lead eh?
We're not really going to have an X-Men game are we? :mellow:
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 19:46
We're not really going to have an X-Men game are we? :mellow:
Id go with Marvel over X-Men, defiantly more variation.
As for the game Phats seems to be Public Enemy No.1 ATM and favourite for a lynching, lets see how it plays out. For the record I have no problem voting for him as he is on the B list.
Phatmann
22-04-2011, 20:02
Is there any particular reason why I'm Public Enemy no. 1? I'm not hearing any relevant theories on why anyone should vote for me at the moment so there's not a lot I can answer with regards to any suspicions.
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 20:08
Is there any particular reason why I'm Public Enemy no. 1? I'm not hearing any relevant theories on why anyone should vote for me at the moment so there's not a lot I can answer with regards to any suspicions.
On day 2 you had the opportunity to vote against Apps (the Dalton Leader) after Dale found him to be very suspicious, that is why you are on that list and the same with the rest of you including Ali who was at Wembley but it doesnt exclude him being under suspicion.
A couple of people have thrown your name forward already and you were a strong part of the Anti LaughinMan gang that formed yesterday.
EDIT: Apologies, I read back and it wasnt you that were part of the Anti LM gang. Your actually very quiet, is this why people are suspicious of you, that and your non vote on the First Lynch?
Phatmann
22-04-2011, 20:22
On day 2 you had the opportunity to vote against Apps (the Dalton Leader) after Dale found him to be very suspicious, that is why you are on that list and the same with the rest of you including Ali who was at Wembley but it doesnt exclude him being under suspicion.
A couple of people have thrown your name forward already and you were a strong part of the Anti LaughinMan gang that formed yesterday.
EDIT: Apologies, I read back and it wasnt you that were part of the Anti LM gang. Your actually very quiet, is this why people are suspicious of you, that and your non vote on the First Lynch?
The votes for Appswah came in fast and late, by which time I'd gone offline, expecting there to be no lynch. With 12 minutes left before the voting closed, Apps still only had 2 votes.
The fact that you initially thought I was part of the Anti-LM gang doesn't help matters as others may have thought this too, which is rather annoying as it's simply down to a case of not reading things properly. I didn't have any part in it and surely if I was a Dalton, I would've jumped at the chance of voting for LM, no? or at least had a hand in convincing others? Why would I be one of the first to vote for Dragonfly when he was lynched? Plus, there are much quieter members than me, e.g. Matt and Dundons.
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 20:35
The votes for Appswah came in fast and late, by which time I'd gone offline, expecting there to be no lynch. With 12 minutes left before the voting closed, Apps still only had 2 votes.
The fact that you initially thought I was part of the Anti-LM gang doesn't help matters as others may have thought this too, which is rather annoying as it's simply down to a case of not reading things properly. I didn't have any part in it and surely if I was a Dalton, I would've jumped at the chance of voting for LM, no? or at least had a hand in convincing others? Why would I be one of the first to vote for Dragonfly when he was lynched? Plus, there are much quieter members than me, e.g. Matt and Dundons.
Right, we had a system up until yesterday that worked superbly, we killed 2 of the Daltons and had a list of suspects, obviously not everyone on the list can be Dalton but the Daltons are definatly on that list. Now everyone on the list is going to defend themselves and probably a few innocent victims are going to fall but its for the good of the town and if we lose 2 to kill 2 or even lose 3 to kill 2 then its a victory for the town.
Ok here is another thing, alot of people that are on the list actually agree with the list, their only problem with it is that they are on it. :laugh:
Phatmann
22-04-2011, 20:45
I don't know whether losing 3 to kill 2 will result in a victory for the town as the numbers are quite slim now with a few people dropping out. I think we have 10 or 11 left in. If it's 10 then killing 3 townies will end up with a Dalton win and with 11 it's hard to say. Are there definitely only 2 mafia left? or could there be 3?
Billy Minof
22-04-2011, 21:25
I don't know whether losing 3 to kill 2 will result in a victory for the town as the numbers are quite slim now with a few people dropping out. I think we have 10 or 11 left in. If it's 10 then killing 3 townies will end up with a Dalton win and with 11 it's hard to say. Are there definitely only 2 mafia left? or could there be 3?
It could be 2 or 3 I have no idea, depends on how many there were at the beginning and whether or not they could recruit members, it could also be only 1 more, as I said I dont know.
Bammers05
22-04-2011, 21:31
Erm, am I back in this game or not?
Update to follow ... I need to read up on recent posts first though so hang tight.
Ali_BWFC
22-04-2011, 21:45
Fair enough, though this game is won in the voting thread. I've helped kill 2 Daltons, I don't believe you can say the same. It's interesting that you believe Billy to be texan, considering he's suspects you. Chelsea11 did the same thing with me in the last game after I suspected him and he turned out to be the mafia/fixers prize bloke. It's amost like you're trying to win him over to make him drop his suspicions.
It's a good point, however, if he had put him on his suspicions list, you would have said something along the lines of "I see you're accusing your attackers, that's exactly what Amateur and Dundons did in the last game", so he couldn't win either way.
HOLY SHIT!
X-Men themed game!
This is so going to be done.
Not everybody loves X-Men and/or comics as much as you :no:
On day 2 you had the opportunity to vote against Apps (the Dalton Leader) after Dale found him to be very suspicious, that is why you are on that list and the same with the rest of you including Ali who was at Wembley but it doesnt exclude him being under suspicion.
A couple of people have thrown your name forward already and you were a strong part of the Anti LaughinMan gang that formed yesterday.
EDIT: Apologies, I read back and it wasnt you that were part of the Anti LM gang. Your actually very quiet, is this why people are suspicious of you, that and your non vote on the First Lynch?
You can't use that fact that I didn't vote for Apps as a reason to suspect me! Fair enough if you have other reasons, but I was physically unable to vote for him. Out of the house at 6:45am, back at around 11:00pm.
Players
1. Joel (DEPARTED)
2. Hunter+ (DECEASED)
3. Phatmann
4. Fick
5. Smudge
6. Bammers (REINSTATED / ROLE PM SENT)
7. Ali
8. Bishop
9. Appswah* (DECEASED)
10. Laughin Man (DEPARTED)
11. Billy Minof
12. Chelsea11 (DEPARTED)
13. Papa
14. Dale
15. Matt
16. TH14 (REINSTATED / ROLE PM SENT)
17. Dragonfly* (DECEASED)
18. Dundon's
+ Jesse James
* Dalton
Day 7 begins Saturday 1pm / Voting closes Saturday 9:50pm.
Night 7 begins Saturday 10pm.
Bammers05
22-04-2011, 22:15
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/green12-zombie-hand-0409-10162228.jpg
...again
Dedicated to Bam-Bam...
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The definition of fucking amazing.
:laugh: Bammers did say he would be back...again!
WHy is Phats being named public enemy number 1, as he called it? He hasn't really done anything to warrant any suspicion, and the same with Papa. They're not on any suspect list of mine.
I'm onto Matt (for constantly accusing me for no reason) smudger ( for being such a vagina) and something just doesn't sit right with Dundon's. He only seems to come on when things are going the Texans' way, which suggests he is trying to influence things at key times. I'm not sure.
Great song choice, Hunter.
It's only right that Bammers wins this game.
Bammers05
22-04-2011, 23:26
I'm onto Matt (for constantly accusing me for no reason) smudger ( for being such a vagina) and something just doesn't sit right with Dundon's. He only seems to come on when things are going the Texans' way, which suggests he is trying to influence things at key times. I'm not sure.
The thing about Dundon's is that if he's a Dalton, why did he go to such lengths to help get Appswah lynched? If he was a Dalton, he could've very easily have just sat back and allowed the lynch to not take place and no-one would've been suspicious of him for it, but, instead, he took it upon himself to push the lynch through. Unless it's the mother of all bluffs, I just can't see why he would've done that, if he was Dalton.
EDIT:
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:cool:
Great song choice, Hunter.
It's only right that Bammers wins this game.
Thank you.
I feel it only commendable that ole' Jesse here gets bestowed with great credence for having an influence upon the great Wild West War like no other. For if it wasn't for my own intuition and cunning, then the ole' coward Robert Dalton would never have been placed on the chopping block. And it was the smarts of the late Jesse James that backed the Dalton Gang into a position in which they felt that erratic voting was an absolute necessity - thus shaping the remainder of the Wild West War.
You know, as it goes, for an outlaw, ole' Jesse James was one hell of a fine fellow.
http://filmgrab.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/05-jesse-stares1.png
The thing about Dundon's is that if he's a Dalton, why did he go to such lengths to help get Appswah lynched? If he was a Dalton, he could've very easily have just sat back and allowed the lynch to not take place and no-one would've been suspicious of him for it, but, instead, he took it upon himself to push the lynch through. Unless it's the mother of all bluffs, I just can't see why he would've done that, if he was Dalton.
That's true. It could be a bluff because Apps was a Dalton with no special ability, Dundon's might be a Dalton with a really good ability that we haven't seen yet, so minimum damage for maximum gain; getting everyone on his side. Like I said, i'm not sure, maybe it's his posting style that's just making me suspicious. It's just that he always seems to pop up when there is drama.
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/green12-zombie-hand-0409-10162228.jpg
...again
http://comicsbyproducts.wordpress.com/files/2008/09/mister-monster-500.jpg
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 11:14
Bammers is like some sort of uber zombie now! He's no longer a standard "walker" :D
BarnDoor
23-04-2011, 11:34
Alright I'm done with these write-ups, Bammers' feats of resurrection just undermine it all.
^ Blame Dragonfly and Smudger.
Nah, blame them both equally.
BarnDoor
23-04-2011, 11:57
I'll only do another if I can just kill all you fags. You bandy together against a Comanche warband but are eventually overwhelmed, scalped, fucked and burned.
Nah, blame them both equally.
Yeah I agree. Equally, but smudger just a little bit more.
But still equal.
Yeah I agree. Equally, but smudger just a little bit more.
But still equal.
I'd say the other way around if anything. Smudger's was due to a lack of common sense, Dragonfly's was due to underhandedness and being a tail.
Right ... we're back on ...
Dundon's
23-04-2011, 14:28
Save your energy lads, I'm a Texan true n true.
muscularmatt
23-04-2011, 14:36
Are you indeed? Or are you using you expertise in conspiracies and deception just to pull a big sheepy one over us all?
Nothing against you in particular Dundon's, I just think its your posting style that's making me uneasy :laugh:
Do we think we'll get a lynch today then lads?
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 15:09
If ye vote Dundons then I feel we will be down another Texan just like the time ye suspected LM.
Use the list lads, the list..........
Dundon's is without a doubt a Texan.
Or I'm being fooled...
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 15:25
Matt and Phats are my main suspects at the moment.
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 15:33
What about Fick, keeping out of sight at times especially when names are being thrown about.
He is also on the list.....
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 15:35
What about Fick, keeping out of sight at times especially when names are being thrown about.
He is also on the list.....
It's possible..... but I've pencilled him in for a cult-type role, if there is one.
Phatmann
23-04-2011, 16:07
If there was a cult-type role, surely we would have found that out by now? If there was a cult, they'd probably have around 6 members by now, meaning they would have won the game as the town and mafia wouldn't be able to get a majority vote between them on any of the cult members.
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 16:11
If there was a cult-type role, surely we would have found that out by now? If there was a cult, they'd probably have around 6 members by now, meaning they would have won the game as the town and mafia wouldn't be able to get a majority vote between them on any of the cult members.
Unless they could only recruit ever other night. Of course, you're not taking into account that the cult leader could also be role-blocked.
Phatmann
23-04-2011, 16:13
Maybe, we haven't really seen any evidence that there is a role-blocker in play yet though.
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 16:23
Maybe, we haven't really seen any evidence that there is a role-blocker in play yet though.
Wasn't there a night where the mafia didn't lynch anyone?
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9413/wantedphats.jpg
A member has placed a wanted poster for the capture and death of Phatmann.
The placing of this poster means everyone by default has voted for Phatmann.
Unless the majority unvotes Phatmann he will be lynched at 10pm.
A $1,000,000 reward is a little high considering we're in the late 1800s. :lol:
Even ole' Jesse James had a bounty of $10,000 during the similar time period.
Phatmann
23-04-2011, 19:43
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9413/wantedphats.jpg
A member has placed a wanted poster for the capture and death of Phatmann.
The placing of this poster means everyone by default has voted for Phatmann.
Unless the majority unvotes Phatmann he will be lynched at 10pm.
I would like to unvote for myself if possible.
A $1,000,000 reward is a little high considering we're in the late 1800s. :lol:
Even ole' Jesse James had a bounty of $10,000 during the similar time period.
Was the best template I could find :D
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 19:53
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9413/wantedphats.jpg
A member has placed a wanted poster for the capture and death of Phatmann.
The placing of this poster means everyone by default has voted for Phatmann.
Unless the majority unvotes Phatmann he will be lynched at 10pm.
Did it take you 2.5hrs to do that? :laugh:
I also like the fact that the poster says "Dead or Alive".... when it's not like we're gonna be able to capture him alive ;)
Anyway.... who could have placed the bounty?
I did mean to post it at 6pm but Doctor Who was on! :)
Phatmann
23-04-2011, 20:15
I did mean to post it at 6pm but Doctor Who was on! :)
Bit unfair on me surely since I now have an hour and a half less time for people to get online and unvote for me, no?
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 20:15
Fair enough then.
We need to decide what we're gonna do. It's been very quiet today, hope you all haven't given up! This is a good opportunity for the town to finally win!
So..... do we stick with Phats?
Bit unfair on me surely since I now have an hour and a half less time for people to get online and unvote for me, no?
Not really squire, votes aren't usually cast or uncast until around 8pm on most days. 9pm onwards is usually the busiest activity wise.
Well this is interesting.
Here's my take on it;
We have two options; A) Mike is a Texan and a third party/Dalton role has placed this bounty on his head at this time, knowing that not a lot of people will be on (Saturday night clubbing etc.) to unvote him.
B) The Daltons have took a HUGE risk in putting this bounty on one of their own's head, in order for.....wait, this option just ends up with Mike looking like a Texan as well :S
I'm unvoting him right now.
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