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Well this is interesting.
Here's my take on it;
We have two options; A) Mike is a Texan and a third party/Dalton role has placed this bounty on his head at this time, knowing that not a lot of people will be on (Saturday night clubbing etc.) to unvote him.
B) The Daltons have took a HUGE risk in putting this bounty on one of their own's head, in order for.....wait, this option just ends up with Mike looking like a Texan as well :S
I'm unvoting him right now.
Just to clear something up Sminky for myself and everyone, the poster says 'Wanted for murder and robbery' - but was this already on the poster, and you didn't place it there, e.g. it's just creative license and not part of the storyline?
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 20:31
Interesting.......... I was waiting to see if anyone would unvote him. Could this be a sign of some sort of allegiance?
It was already on the template mate :)
Also, I think that we have a lead.
People who have been pushing so hard for phatmann's lynch are looking very guilty to me right now.
Edit: Ali, I thought that it might look like that, but I don't really care. What are the chances of Mike being a Dalton after that stunt???? And why are poeple trying to get him lynched when he hasn't really done anything???
I think Mike's being victimised here.
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 20:36
Also, I think that we have a lead.
People who have been pushing so hard for phatmann's lynch are looking very guilty to me right now.
Edit: Ali, I thought that it might look like that, but I don't really care. What are the chances of Mike being a Dalton after that stunt???? And why are poeple trying to get him lynched when he hasn't really done anything???
I think Mike's being victimised here.
I think this is the problem.... he hasn't done anything or said anything to show that he's helping the town. In fact, the only time he seems to pop in and post is when his name has been mentioned.
I still think the chances are good. I'm thinking that the person who placed the bounty is one of the people who has been gunning for Phats to be lynched.
Think about it, what type of person is gonna place a wanted poster? Probably someone who has some sort of law enforcement role.
Bammers05
23-04-2011, 20:37
Personally, I don't think we should unvote Phatmann. I was slightly suspicious of him before he died. He didn't seem to be willing to take risks and he very rarely accused people. I think I'm right in saying he didn't vote for Appswah and he tried to sway people away from voting for Dragonfly initially, not by stating his suspicions for someone else, but by claiming he doubted that Dragonfly was a Dalton. In fact, he only stated that he was suspicious of Dragonfly after I questioned him on it. Tbh I was suspicious of him since then and I would've said that we should vote for him, if it hadn't been important that we get rid of Dragonfly.
Also, Dale, obviously I don't know what kind of role would allow someone to put the bounty on his head, but how do we know that it's not a Texan role?
You both make good points man, maybe I should think before I post.
I thought about it being a third party pinkerton sort of thing, but then that makes him out to look like a Texan as well. I think the positives for unvoting him outweigh the negatives.
Anyway, i've unvoted him but I can still vote again. I'm just unsure right now, thanks to you two :laugh:
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 20:47
You both make good points man, maybe I should think before I post.
I thought about it being a third party pinkerton sort of thing, but then that makes him out to look like a Texan as well. I think the positives for unvoting him outweigh the negatives.
Anyway, i've unvoted him but I can still vote again. I'm just unsure right now, thanks to you two :laugh:
I'm still unsure about it, but for me, it's the best option we have. I mean, if you don't believe him to be Dalton, who would your main suspect be? (and don't just say smudger because he's a bit of an idiot :laugh:)
I'm off for now to watch some Fringe, will be back straight after it's finished.
I actually don't think Smudger is Dalton, although no-body has really done anything to arouse serious suspicion, and the ones that did, we got. This is the problem with having lots of people in the game, and not many Daltons. It's an interesting one.
I don't really have any theories as to who is Dalton although I have theories as to who isn't.
I don't think Billy is Dalton because he mentioned working closely with Laughin man, or speaking to him about the game or something like that, and laughin man was texan. If laughin man was dalton and billy was a texan, it'd pretty much go against the whole point of the game and I don't think that'd be the way they'd do things.
I'm a bit wary of Bammers and Dundon's, not for any real reason however.
This game's getting tough now, but i'm going to keep my vote off phatmann because I don't think the cop, if we still have one, would have the power to investigate AND put wanted posters up.
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 21:45
Latest Episode?
Aye. It was a good one, too :)
I actually don't think Smudger is Dalton, although no-body has really done anything to arouse serious suspicion, and the ones that did, we got. This is the problem with having lots of people in the game, and not many Daltons. It's an interesting one.
I don't really have any theories as to who is Dalton although I have theories as to who isn't.
I don't think Billy is Dalton because he mentioned working closely with Laughin man, or speaking to him about the game or something like that, and laughin man was texan. If laughin man was dalton and billy was a texan, it'd pretty much go against the whole point of the game and I don't think that'd be the way they'd do things.
I'm a bit wary of Bammers and Dundon's, not for any real reason however.
This game's getting tough now, but i'm going to keep my vote off phatmann because I don't think the cop, if we still have one, would have the power to investigate AND put wanted posters up.
Bammers has been a lot quieter since coming back from the dead (again). Maybe been killed off twice has made him less enthusiastic about the game, but it's still something that should be pointed out.
Not sure about Dundon's. For the time being, I'm willing to believe he's Texan.
Anyway, it doesn't look like there's enough people on to sway the vote away from Phats.
Summary to follow
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Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 22:01
Oh god..... don't tease, Sminky :D
Day 7: Summary
After a tumultuous couple of days life settled down in West Texas. Joel had left West Texas to become Joelina in a travelling Mexican troupe of Transvestites and Hermaphrodites, while Laughin Man, had left town to prospect Gold.
The finger of suspicion still pointed towards Phatmann - well at least to someone.
That 'someone' decided to place a bounty on Phatmanns head. Willing to collect the bounty for whiskey and a go on Joelina the town collared Phatmann and strung him up outside the saloon.
Conclusion:
The Town lynched Phatmann who was ... Emmett Dalton.
The Town has successfully lynched 3 Bandits in a row. A member of the game will now be presented with a random ability.
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 22:12
How many unvotes did you end up with, I was busy reading through the thread, I didnt have a vote tonight so I couldnt unvote, Correct Sminky?
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 22:14
Day 7: Summary
After a tumultuous couple of days life settled down in West Texas. Joel had left West Texas to become Joelina in a travelling Mexican troupe of Transvestites and Hermaphrodites, while Laughin Man, had left town to prospect Gold.
The finger of suspicion still pointed towards Phatmann - well at least to someone.
That 'someone' decided to place a bounty on Phatmanns head. Willing to collect the bounty for whiskey and a go on Joelina they town collared Phatmann and strung him up outside the saloon.
Conclusion:
The Town lynched Phatmann who was ... Emmett Dalton.
The Town has successfully lynched 3 Bandits in a row. A member of the game will now be presented with a random ability.
You see what I am talking about fellows.....this is the shit I have been telling you all about, follow the List lads, I couldnt make it any easier for ye and yet ye fight for others to die.
How many Bandits are left now????
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 22:17
Excellent stuff. Well done to the guy who put up the wanted poster :)
I think he got 2 unvotes Billy, from himself and Dale.
Can't be many left now. 3 gone out of 18 total players. That either means that could be a further 3 or so more, or less if there is a cult. That's what I think anyway.
Looking forward to seeing what this new role is!
I still suspect Matt or he is just too lazy to post in here.
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 22:27
Ok lads,
The list has now been shortened to 4 suspects.
Fick, Smudger, Ali, Papa,
Everyone has a alibi, which one shouldnt we believe.
Also, the Bounty is a new Ability, something that one of our new neighbours have acquired? TH14 or Bammers?
Either way as long as they are not Daltons which I doubt they are after the move that was pulled in lynching Phats I say we dont lynch them as they are for the good of the town for now.
Only one Dalton remains, Grat Dalton.
Ali_BWFC
23-04-2011, 22:29
Ok lads,
The list has now been shortened to 4 suspects.
Fick, Smudger, Ali, Papa,
Everyone has a alibi, which one shouldnt we believe.
Also, the Bounty is a new Ability, something that one of our new neighbours have acquired? TH14 or Bammers?
Either way as long as they are not Daltons which I doubt they are after the move that was pulled in lynching Phats I say we dont lynch them as they are for the good of the town for now.
Why is smudger on your list?
Also why am I still on your list? I've been one of the people gunning for Phats.
I think you may be right about this ability coming from one of the zombies.
EDIT: 1 Dalton left... surely there must be a cult aswell?
Why is Matt not on your list?
Billy Minof
23-04-2011, 22:34
Why is Matt not on your list?
Ok lads, I dont want to lose my vote tomorrow so ill leave it there for now.....until the dawning of a new day, ride well.
Posting amnesty has passed.
Posting resumes tomorrow 8pm.
muscularmatt
24-04-2011, 01:05
Nothing. Nothing atall.
Ali_BWFC
24-04-2011, 21:51
Why is smudger on your list?
Also why am I still on your list? I've been one of the people gunning for Phats.
I think you may be right about this ability coming from one of the zombies.
EDIT: 1 Dalton left... surely there must be a cult aswell?
Come on Billy. Time to hear your answer :)
Bit tied up lads. Update will be a bit late. Apologies
Day 7: Summary
After a tumultuous couple of days life settled down in West Texas. Joel had left West Texas to become Joelina in a travelling Mexican troupe of Transvestites and Hermaphrodites, while Laughin Man, had left town to prospect Gold.
The finger of suspicion still pointed towards Phatmann - well at least to someone.
That 'someone' decided to place a bounty on Phatmanns head. Willing to collect the bounty for whiskey and a go on Joelina the town collared Phatmann and strung him up outside the saloon.
Conclusion:
The Town lynched Phatmann who was ... Emmett Dalton.
The Town has successfully lynched 3 Bandits in a row. A member of the game will now be presented with a random ability.
Told y'all Phats was Dalton! :smug:
So Smink, if there's only one more Dalton and no cult, does that mean that this remaining Dalton is the one non-Texan left in the game?
Ali_BWFC
24-04-2011, 22:13
Told y'all Phats was Dalton! :smug:
So Smink, if there's only one more Dalton and no cult, does that mean that this remaining Dalton is the one non-Texan left in the game?
I can't help thinking we're missing something though. Unless Sminky decided to sway the balance a bit more in favour of the town, after an unbeaten mafia streak,
Holy shit, was longer than I thought I'd be tidying up ...
Right ... just check my notes what the fuck has been going on ... ah, very little ...
Night 7 Summary:
No lynching.
Day 8 Begins:
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 00:00
No lynching eh? Good :)
Now, this is just a thought, and I may well have got this wrong, because this is probably thanks to a role-blocker, but perhaps the reason for the lack of lynching is because the last mafia member - I believe Sminky said there's only one left - simply forgot to/didn't know he had to give Sminky a person to lynch, during the night time. Now, there's only one person left, who I could see forgetting to do something like that - muscularmatt.
Just a theory I've only just come up with, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Last time I followed a direction set by Bammers we nearly lynched Laughin Man, who was eventually identified as Town.
I'm more than willing to listen to any new ideas as since the Phatmon went there are not any serious candidates that I can see.
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 00:31
Last time I followed a direction set by Bammers we nearly lynched Laughin Man, who was eventually identified as Town.
I was questioning Laughin Man, because he said something intentionally ambiguous and persistently refused to elaborate on it, which made me think he might be Dalton. He eventually yielded though and I never wanted him lynched.
Problem is though Bam-bam, you have a habit of dying and it's not until you get resurrected for the 12th time that we find things like this out. The timing between your comments and death were enough to raise more than a few eyebrows, especially with the revelation of your role at that time.
No wonder that people get confused. Try staying alive or dead for while eh?
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 00:36
Problem is though Bam-bam, you have a habit of dying and it's not until you get resurrected for the 12th time that we find things like this out. The timing between your comments and death were enough to raise more than a few eyebrows, especially with the revelation of your role at that time.
No wonder that people get confused. Try staying alive or dead for while eh?
Tbf it's not exactly my fault I keep dying ;)
When you say 'the timing between your comments and death were enough to raise more than a few eyebrows', what exactly do you mean?
Tbf it's not exactly my fault I keep dying ;)
When you say 'the timing between your comments and death were enough to raise more than a few eyebrows', what exactly do you mean?
You had made reference to LM being Dalton, then had a 'debate'. then you got killed. Turned out you had a role that sounded like you had investigative abilities. This then appeared as if you had rumbled LM & been killed as a result.
The fact LM continued to ostracise himself didn't help his case though.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 12:01
No lynching eh? Good :)
Now, this is just a thought, and I may well have got this wrong, because this is probably thanks to a role-blocker, but perhaps the reason for the lack of lynching is because the last mafia member - I believe Sminky said there's only one left - simply forgot to/didn't know he had to give Sminky a person to lynch, during the night time. Now, there's only one person left, who I could see forgetting to do something like that - muscularmatt.
Just a theory I've only just come up with, but I thought I'd throw it out there.
He's been on my list for a while now, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was the last Dalton. But I'm also thinking about those who haven't been online. It was quiet yesterday. I'm sure smudger hasn't been online for a bit and Billy wasn't online since early afternoon. However, Billy has been quite good for the town so far, and smudger was involved in the "incident", which doesn't let him off completely. I'm still heavily inclined to believe Matt is the last member.
There could have been a role block.... but do mafia kills get blocked?
He's been on my list for a while now, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was the last Dalton. But I'm also thinking about those who haven't been online. It was quiet yesterday. I'm sure smudger hasn't been online for a bit and Billy wasn't online since early afternoon. However, Billy has been quite good for the town so far, and smudger was involved in the "incident", which doesn't let him off completely. I'm still heavily inclined to believe Matt is the last member.
There could have been a role block.... but do mafia kills get blocked?
Don't forget that yesterday was Easter Sunday & a lot of people will likely have been doing family things. Or in Matt's case, doing his family.
As for blocking Mafia kills, yes they can be role blocked.
And remember when we're talking about roleblocks, the lynch of Phatmann gave one of us Texans a random special ability. This obviously could have been the ability to roleblock.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 12:26
Don't forget that yesterday was Easter Sunday & a lot of people will likely have been doing family things. Or in Matt's case, doing his family.
As for blocking Mafia kills, yes they can be role blocked.
I know there could have been family things going on, but I think most people were online at some point. Doesn't take long to send Sminky a PM.
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 19:00
Another person, who I've become quite suspicious of is Dale. I know he led the charge to lynch Appswah, but if we hadn't lynched Appswah, it would've been Dragonfly, another Dalton, so I could very easily see it being a ploy by the Dalton's to sacrifice one of their, perhaps, less involved players, in order to make another one seem innocent.
As for why I suspect him, well firstly, he tried very hard to get people to unvote Phatmann after the bounty was placed on him:
Well this is interesting.
Here's my take on it;
We have two options; A) Mike is a Texan and a third party/Dalton role has placed this bounty on his head at this time, knowing that not a lot of people will be on (Saturday night clubbing etc.) to unvote him.
B) The Daltons have took a HUGE risk in putting this bounty on one of their own's head, in order for.....wait, this option just ends up with Mike looking like a Texan as well :S
I'm unvoting him right now.
As we can see, he's not even entertaining the idea that the bounty could have been placed by a Texan and is trying to lead people away from voting for Phatmann, without suggesting any other possible names, by trying to introduce and confusion, and by making people worried about a lynching.
Also:
Also, I think that we have a lead.
People who have been pushing so hard for phatmann's lynch are looking very guilty to me right now.
Edit: Ali, I thought that it might look like that, but I don't really care. What are the chances of Mike being a Dalton after that stunt???? And why are poeple trying to get him lynched when he hasn't really done anything???
I think Mike's being victimised here.
As we can see here, he's now trying to divert the suspicion onto people pushing for Phatmann's lynch, despite supposedly not knowing whether he was Texan or Dalton. Surely the best time to be accusing those who accused Phatmann would have been after Phatmann had been lynched and turned out to be a Texan? Instead he acts as if he already knows that Phatmann's a Texan, which a Texan surely wouldn't?
Also, he did do a list of suspicions and I was interested to read, on that list, this:
I'm a bit wary of Bammers and Dundon's, not for any real reason however.
I don't mind the fact that he's suspicious of me, but what confuses me is the 'not for any real reason however' bit. Surely, if you're suspicious of someone, there'll be a reason for it? And you can't think of the reason, you'll go back over that person's posts to see if there is one. However, Dale has just posted that he's suspicious of two people, without even qualifying it, thereby putting those people 'under the radar' for no reason.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 19:40
Dale has been bugging me a little bit. He has gone very quiet since the lynching of Phats. However, I think he probably is Texan. If getting rid of Apps was a Dalton ploy, it strikes me as being a very bad one. Like I keep saying in these games, no point just lynching people because they're quite, because afterall, they are numbers in your favour. His behaviour on the evening of Phats's lynch did strike me as being odd though. I was actually waiting to see who the first person would be to unvote Phats..... was surprised it was Dale. But I think Dale is cleverer than that (at least at mafia wars ;)), do you really think he'd do something as obvious as that if it was gonna make him look guilty?
Papa is still very dodgy, for me.
And remember when we're talking about roleblocks, the lynch of Phatmann gave one of us Texans a random special ability. This obviously could have been the ability to roleblock.
Did Sminky specifically say that the random role introduced would be given to a Texan? Also, the very blatant use of the phrase "us Texans" really stands out in that paragraph.
Told y'all Phats was Dalton!
So Smink, if there's only one more Dalton and no cult, does that mean that this remaining Dalton is the one non-Texan left in the game?
Just to clarify for me, and to save me going through pages and pages, can you tell me where you said that Phats was Dalton?
Just to clarify for me, and to save me going through pages and pages, can you tell me where you said that Phats was Dalton?
:lmao:
Edit: Don't ask. Just get on with the game.
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:09
Dale has been bugging me a little bit. He has gone very quiet since the lynching of Phats. However, I think he probably is Texan. If getting rid of Apps was a Dalton ploy, it strikes me as being a very bad one. Like I keep saying in these games, no point just lynching people because they're quite, because afterall, they are numbers in your favour. His behaviour on the evening of Phats's lynch did strike me as being odd though. I was actually waiting to see who the first person would be to unvote Phats..... was surprised it was Dale. But I think Dale is cleverer than that (at least at mafia wars ;)), do you really think he'd do something as obvious as that if it was gonna make him look guilty?
I actually think getting rid of Appswah to try and save Dragonfly would be quite a clever ploy tbh. By leading the Texans to a lynching of a Dalton, he would, therefore, look like a Texan, so it would be a clever move, especially considering that, either way, a Dalton was going that night anyway.
As for defending Phatmann, it just strikes me as a last desperate attempt to try and save his fellow Dalton. Phatmann was the logical choice to go, I felt and Dale appeared to be pushing for no lynch instead of a lynching of someone else, which was strange. I take on board your point about it being too obvious though.
Just to clarify for me, and to save me going through pages and pages, can you tell me where you said that Phats was Dalton?
There were a few, but I believe it was this one, especially:
While I, of course, reject your suggestion that I might be Dalton simply because I haven't posted as much as some of the others, I wanted to quote this post as it highlights another couple of people I suspect. A few others have mentioned Laughin Man, so I'll direct this post at Phatmann.
As Ali said, we should not judge someone on the number of posts they make, but Phatmann's posts have not only been few in number but much more importantly, non-committal and quite suspicious, especially surrounding the Dragonfly lynch.
On the night after we lynched Appswah, the Daltons took out Hunter (Jesse James). If you recall, the original suspicion about Dragonfly was that he may be Jesse James, but that quickly switched to him being Dalton after Appswah's actions (and Dale's detective work). By the time of the killing of Hunter by the Daltons and the beginning of day-time, everybody seemed clear that Dragonfly was a Dalton and was to be lynched.
Except Phatmann:
In between each of these posts was questioning from Bammers, who we now know to have been a cop of sorts, and declarations of intent to lynch Dragonfly. Yet even so, even by the third post when he is having to confess that the 'suspicion looks strong' (a very weak statement), he's still trying to sow the seeds of doubt in the town and try to save Dragonfly.
You would think that if Phatmann was not a Dalton with Dragonfly, but simply just truly believed him to be a Texan he might have shown some surprise then when Dragonfly's role was revealed, as those posts above can only really be read in two ways: 1- An innocent Texan, unconvinced by the overwhelming evidence and trusting of Dragonfly or 2- A conniving Dalton, desperate to save his partner. However, when the lynch, and Dragonfly's allegiance was revealed, there was no surprise, simply:
A mixture of this lack of surprise after seeming so unsure before, his non-committal to the cause of lynching Dragonfly, his unhelpful posts throughout the game, the numerical lack of posts Ali highlighted (even though I've not posted much more!), and Bammers' suspicion of him lead me to state quite categorically that I believe Phatmann is a Dalton.
Just to clarify for me, and to save me going through pages and pages, can you tell me where you said that Phats was Dalton?
:faceplm:
Honestly? You haven't been paying much attention have you?
Try here (http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1750354&postcount=1185), here (http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1749883&postcount=1032), here (http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1749852&postcount=1014), here (http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1749835&postcount=1001) and especially here (http://www.pesgaming.com/showpost.php?p=1749795&postcount=979).
I'll actually go ahead and quote that last post for you:
I think people are being a lot less obvious with their mafiaisms this time round.
Ok, I'll stop pretending to be gay. I'll let you know my main suspicions:
laughin man - If you look at the way he played last time, and the way he's playing this time, it's very different. In this game he's not saying anything at all that could help the town. Instead, all he's done is latch onto my avatar and decided to attack me because of it.
Papa - Another one who is saying very little. The same goes with Phatmann. Look at the amount of posts they have. I'm not saying we should judge someone on how many posts they're making, but both are around the 30s which is a "safe" number for any mafia type person to have. It's enough to make people think you're contributing, and at the same time, makes you appear that you're not just sticking to the shadows, trying to stay away from suspicion.
EDIT: The fact that I keep giving that reason for not voting Apps, is because people KEEP using it as a way to implicate me!
While I, of course, reject your suggestion that I might be Dalton simply because I haven't posted as much as some of the others, I wanted to quote this post as it highlights another couple of people I suspect. A few others have mentioned Laughin Man, so I'll direct this post at Phatmann.
As Ali said, we should not judge someone on the number of posts they make, but Phatmann's posts have not only been few in number but much more importantly, non-committal and quite suspicious, especially surrounding the Dragonfly lynch.
On the night after we lynched Appswah, the Daltons took out Hunter (Jesse James). If you recall, the original suspicion about Dragonfly was that he may be Jesse James, but that quickly switched to him being Dalton after Appswah's actions (and Dale's detective work). By the time of the killing of Hunter by the Daltons and the beginning of day-time, everybody seemed clear that Dragonfly was a Dalton and was to be lynched.
Except Phatmann:
Well a good night for the town I guess as we've found Jesse James and not lost one of our own. Leaves me a little confused as to Dragonflys position now though.
The best thing to do would be to hear what Dragonfly has to say for himself but unfortunately he's been surprisingly absent considering the circumstances he's currently in.
I thought the initial Jesse James idea was a bit weak but with Appswah following Dragonflys vote rather than voting for him, the suspicion of him being a Dalton looks strong. Would Appswah be stupid enough to stitch up his own mafia buddy though? or maybe he really did believe Matt was more suspicious than Dragonfly? My instincts would say that Appswah is stupid enough and his suspicion of Matt was rather weakly put across.
In between each of these posts was questioning from Bammers, who we now know to have been a cop of sorts, and declarations of intent to lynch Dragonfly. Yet even so, even by the third post when he is having to confess that the 'suspicion looks strong' (a very weak statement), he's still trying to sow the seeds of doubt in the town and try to save Dragonfly.
You would think that if Phatmann was not a Dalton with Dragonfly, but simply just truly believed him to be a Texan he might have shown some surprise then when Dragonfly's role was revealed, as those posts above can only really be read in two ways: 1- An innocent Texan, unconvinced by the overwhelming evidence and trusting of Dragonfly or 2- A conniving Dalton, desperate to save his partner. However, when the lynch, and Dragonfly's allegiance was revealed, there was no surprise, simply:
:smug: Great stuff.
A mixture of this lack of surprise after seeming so unsure before, his non-committal to the cause of lynching Dragonfly, his unhelpful posts throughout the game, the numerical lack of posts Ali highlighted (even though I've not posted much more!), and Bammers' suspicion of him lead me to state quite categorically that I believe Phatmann is a Dalton.
You might notice I even quoted you in that one!
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:16
I got there first, Papa :)
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 20:18
Fair enough Phats. Sorry.
So, who would your number one suspects be?
I'll let you off for now, Papa. So I'd probably say:
1) Matt
2) Dale
3) fick
Seems like you're a quicker draw than me!
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:19
Fair enough Phats. Sorry.
:huh:
So, who would your number one suspects be?
I'll let you off for now, Papa. So I'd probably say:
1) Matt
2) Dale
3) fick
Why Fick, Ali?
I've made my suspicions pretty clear tbh. Dale is my number one suspicion atm, although I'd like to hear his defence. I'm also suspicious of Matt, but not enough to lynch him yet.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 20:32
:huh:
Why Fick, Ali?
I've made my suspicions pretty clear tbh. Dale is my number one suspicion atm, although I'd like to hear his defence. I'm also suspicious of Matt, but not enough to lynch him yet.
Papa/Phats.... same difference. Both begin with a P ;)
Fick seems to make excuses a lot. They may be true, but nevertheless, he's on my radar because of it.
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:33
Which excuses are you referring to?
Fick seems to make excuses a lot. They may be true, but nevertheless, he's on my radar because of it.
:erm: Excuses for what? I didn't go to Wembley...
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 20:43
Which excuses are you referring to?
Well, he's always saying he won't be around tonight etc because he's doing such and such a thing. Anyway, let's not focus on fick, let's focus on Matt and Dale.
:erm: Excuses for what? I didn't go to Wembley...
I know. I did..... wish I didn't :faceplm: £8.50 for fish and chips inside the ground!!!! £4.00 for a pint of rather shite tasting bear! So glad I live up north :)
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:47
The thing is: I'd like to hear Dale defend himself before I vote for him and I'm not sure I'm convinced about Muscularmatt. If I had to pick one right now to lynch, it would be Matt, as, if he was a Texan, we wouldn't be losing anyone who's contributing to the game, but if he's a Dalton, obviously that's good.
EDIT: I think I'll vote Muscularmatt, just to get the ball rolling.
I've said it before, but I don't trust TheBishop. Here are my reasons:
1. Lack of proper contribution. Rather than making posts that benefit the town, he has mostly posted quite pointless things such as:
*spits into the air, wind takes it back into my face*
(The reasons get more convincing don't worry).
2. He, like Phatmann, seems more concerned with finding out whether there was a third party to contend with than unearthing the Daltons.
Just wondering what everyones opinion is on whether or not there's a cult type group is this game. I don't think we've seen anything yet to suggest there is, unless I've missed something. Given the numbers left, with only 2 Daltons left, there must be a possibility.
This is almost exactly the sort of post that Phatmann was making earlier in the game too. The similarities must not be discounted.
3. He campaigned to try to save Dragonfly. Not once:
The whole deal with Dragonfly's sig just feels quite similar to Bammers fick's surprise bollocks from the last game, and we know what side Bammers was on. I'm not suggesting Hunter was thinking a similar way, I just think basing votes on a picture over general behaviour seems a bit over the top. I was actually very tempted to vote Dragonfly but having thought about it I don't see enough (right now anyway).
...but twice:
Joel's point about the Daltons killing Hunter to try frame Dragonfly has got me thinking. Still hard to disregard him though.
4. His reactions to killings and lynches. When we lost Detective Bammers (obviously a great asset to the town) he didn't seem all that disappointed.
Another great piece of work, Barn.
I would say Rest In Peace Bammers, but you never seem to. When I hear Pinkerton all I think is Weezer. I've never heard of a third party cop before.
And when we took out Dragonfly his 'celebration' of this was quite clearly an afterthought:
Quite convenient saying that when's he's as good as dead....
*spits in the air, accidently lands on my horse, horse kicks me in face*
EDIT Good result, made easier by Apps.
5. The first part of the above quote is him implying that Fick's voting to lynch Dragonfly doesn't mean he isn't Dalton as he was already 'as good as dead'. Fick cast the ninth vote for Dragonfly, TheBishop cast the seventh. Not a world away. Also Dragonfly was as good as dead from the moment Appswah was revealed to be Dalton. Not voting for Dragonfly would be suicide. Though TheBishop says:
Fair enough, though this game is won in the voting thread. I've helped kill 2 Daltons, I don't believe you can say the same.
...voting fifth out of eight and seventh out of eleven on two foregone conclusions is hardly leading the charge.
Because of all this and because I'm not particularly suspicious of any of the other participants, I believe TheBishop to be the most likely final Dalton.
Well, he's always saying he won't be around tonight etc because he's doing such and such a thing.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't *shrugs*
£4.00 for a pint of rather shite tasting bear! So glad I live up north :)
Gotta watch that southern bear mate ;)
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 20:53
:hmm:
Those are some very good points there, Papa. Enough to make me consider changing my vote. Hadn't really thought about Bish before tbh. I'd like to hear Bish defend himself, before changing, but I see the logic in what you've said.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 20:54
Some good points there Papa. Looks like Bammers is going for Matt though. He is my number 1 suspect at the moment, but I would like to hear some more opinions before I solidify my vote.
EDIT: If there is a role blocker at work, he needs to not-so-subtly nod us towards the person he blocked. This is assuming that the mafia kill was blocked last night. If not, my main bet is on matt.
Hadn't really thought about Bish before tbh. I'd like to hear Bish defend himself, before changing, but I see the logic in what you've said.
Ditto. hadn't really paid much heed to Bish so far... :hmm:
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 21:08
I know. I did..... wish I didn't :faceplm: £8.50 for fish and chips inside the ground!!!! £4.00 for a pint of rather shite tasting bear! So glad I live up north :)
If you want good-tasting bear, I suggest you go up to Tall Trees, plenty of bears up there ;)
Papa, are you 100% sure Bish is Dalton? If you are, then I'll change my vote to him.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 21:15
If you want good-tasting bear, I suggest you go up to Tall Trees, plenty of bears up there ;)
Papa, are you 100% sure Bish is Dalton? If you are, then I'll change my vote to him.
I'll take that in mind next time we get to Wembley :)
Another thing to notice about Bish, is that he's posting less and less as the game goes on. You could look at it this way:
Realising his teammates are falling, he believes he has to stick to the shadows more, in order to survive.
If you want good-tasting bear, I suggest you go up to Tall Trees, plenty of bears up there ;)
Papa, are you 100% sure Bish is Dalton? If you are, then I'll change my vote to him.
You'll notice the only other participant I've spoken of in this way was Phatmann, and we all know what he was. I'm voting Bish and I advise the rest of you to do the same.
EDIT: Good point there Ali. I didn't think of that.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 21:30
You'll notice the only other participant I've spoken of in this way was Phatmann, and we all know what he was. I'm voting Bish and I advise the rest of you to do the same.
EDIT: Good point there Ali. I didn't think of that.
Fuck it, not much time left. Is there even enough of us to get a lynch?
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 21:35
Fick's the only other 'alive' player currently online atm. I think it's 7 we need for a lynch.
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 21:38
Fick's the only other 'alive' player currently online atm. I think it's 7 we need for a lynch.
SEVEN?! There's no chance then!
Where the hell is Billy today? He's been leading the charge thus far.
I'll vote Bish if required, despite the evidence being conjecture and wordplay. Problem is, there are no real targets.
If no-one else logs in than it'll be a moot point anyway...
Greetings. All a bit of a rush catching up. Apologies for the slap dash nature of this post ...
A wanted poster has been placed for TheBishop. He has recieved the full votes required for a lynching.
Voting closed.
The Town lynched TheBishop. No longer is three the magic number. Its four.
TheBishop was the remaining Dalton.
For the first time in Mafia Wars history the Town has slain all the members of a Mafia Family. With TheBishop killed the Dalton Gang Bandits are defeated.
However.
Two independent 3rd parties remain before the Town is victorious. For the 3rd Parties to win all the need do is sit tight. If the game reaches Day 10 both parties are joint winners.
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 22:00
:) Yay. Well done to whomever placed the wanted poster.
Hopefully, rooting out the '3rd parties' shouldn't be too difficult now :hmm:
EDIT: And Sminky, it's not the first time that's happened. The townies killed both mafias in Mafia Wars IV...didn't kill me though :shifty:
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 22:01
Excellent news. I'm guessing it was one of you guys (Papa, Bammers, fick) who placed the wanted poster.
Who are the remaining 3rd parties then?
Matt
Papa
Dale
Are my main suspects.
:) Yay. Well done to whomever placed the wanted poster.
Hopefully, rooting out the '3rd parties' shouldn't be too difficult now :hmm:
EDIT: And Sminky, it's not the first time that's happened. The townies killed both mafias in Mafia Wars IV...didn't kill me though :shifty:
No, I meant its the first time a whole family has been killed consecutive lynches.
Well isn't that just dandy? :mellow:
it's difficult to get exited about the end of the Daltons as it apparently isn't going to help us one way or another.
Any ideas on what the other roles are? They obviously don't need to kill, but were capable of identifying Daltons.
Did Papa seem too sure about the last two lynches? Did Bammers second (or was it third) coming, bring an additional role?
Does anyone care anymore?
Bammers05
25-04-2011, 22:04
Ali, why Papa?
Can't nail it down. Just a feeling I got, the sudden drive to lynch, just seemed more positive/definite/driven than usual... :hmm:
Ali_BWFC
25-04-2011, 22:07
Ali, why Papa?
Something still doesn't seem right about him IMO.
Sminky, can you confirm whether you meant the begining of day 10 or the end? ie do we still get a lynch on day 10?
If the game enters an 11th day the town loses.
Dundon's
26-04-2011, 00:30
What the fudge?
Its night 8 by the way.
I'm on it. ;)
Billy Minof
26-04-2011, 10:56
Ok lads, im not talking tactics here, just came in to say I was busy the last 2 days and havent been home, back now to weed out the last Dalton. (if I am still alive that is)
Ali_BWFC
26-04-2011, 11:04
Ok lads, im not talking tactics here, just came in to say I was busy the last 2 days and havent been home, back now to weed out the last Dalton. (if I am still alive that is)
You are still alive, and the last Dalton IS gone. Read the previous few pages for further details :)
Billy Minof
26-04-2011, 11:18
You are still alive, and the last Dalton IS gone. Read the previous few pages for further details :)
Yeah dude, just caught up now, excellent news all round, great stuff lads. :cheer:
I have my suspicions of who could be 3rd party but ill talk about it at Dawn when we can speak again.
You may begin posting again
I know i've not posted in a while; i've been busy with uni work, and actual work( yes I do have a job now :w00t) but I picked up on this;
Bammers, are you accusing me of being one of the remaining third party members just for accusing people for no reason?
And then when Ali accuses Papa of being suspicious for no reason, you say nothing?
This is a total stain within your theory Bammers, and it's not like you to slip up like this.
Interesting.
I have some interesting things to reveal, but i'd like to save that until a further date. All i'm saying is don't lynch me until the 10th day, if you really, really have to.
Edit: I can't post much more in here because my deadlines are fast approaching, so you'll just have to take it at that and believe that i'm a Texan, until the 10th day (if you can wait that long I don't know.)
Activity has notably declined. Is it worth continuing gents?
Ali_BWFC
26-04-2011, 21:16
Dale, I did mention reasons for accusing Papa a while ago. The same time I first accused Phats I think. I stuck with my reasons, and I still believe that Papa isn't Texan.
EDIT: There's only a couple of days left Sminky. No harm in continuing. If there isn't going to be any night time lynches, you can just skip past the night phase, I guess. I still want a townie win FFS. Our best chance yet! :)
Dragonfly
26-04-2011, 21:19
I apologise if my antics killed it, guys. I was actually planning on staying away from this thread until its conclusion.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qskaSRkns8A/TPrg1YtI6PI/AAAAAAAASVs/_Qo7RM7u1EY/s1600/lee-van-cleef.jpg
Bammers05
26-04-2011, 21:19
Bammers, are you accusing me of being one of the remaining third party members just for accusing people for no reason?
And then when Ali accuses Papa of being suspicious for no reason, you say nothing?
This is a total stain within your theory Bammers, and it's not like you to slip up like this.
Interesting.
The whole 'accusing people for no reason' things was just one reason why I brought your name up and there were several others, which, together, made me suspicious of you. I'm not saying Ali's lack of reasons didn't make me suspicious, but he hadn't done as much as you, in terms of suspicious things, for me to believe he was a Dalton.
Activity has notably declined. Is it worth continuing gents?
Yes.
You talk out of your asscheeks man, fact is that Ali did exactly the same as me and you didn't pick him up on it. Like I said, interesting.
Fair enough.
There wasn't a lynch so the Day period begins now.
Day 9
Anyway like I said, if you can, wait until the 10th day to lynch me. I've got interesting things to reveal. I won't be around much anyway.
Bammers05
26-04-2011, 21:30
You talk out of your asscheeks man, fact is that Ali did exactly the same as me and you didn't pick him up on it. Like I said, interesting.
The situation was that we needed someone to lynch someone that night and you happened to be the one that I was most suspicious of, for several reasons, which I've already said, so I told everyone what I thought, because, unlike some people, I don't like to incriminate people without a decent enough reason. On Ali, well I have my suspicions about him, but, at the time, you appeared to me to be more suspicious.
Btw, I'm not as suspicious of you any more, because I suspected you, at the time, to be the last Dalton, but, now we've got all the Daltons out, obvioulsy you can't be.
Billy Minof
26-04-2011, 21:57
Ok lads,. we need to find out who the remaining culprits are, not squabble over small things.
I am getting more suspicious of Dale now though, seems to be bringing up pointless things and not on the case of finding out who the bad guys are, also saying he wll help on Day 10 or not even help just reveal some stuff, could it be a way to stall the lynchings and therefore win the game, bluff us so to speak.....
Ali_BWFC
26-04-2011, 21:59
Dale is on my list, Billy. But there are 2 other independant parties, so who would your other choice be?
Like I've said before, had my suspicions of Papa for a while, and also of Matt.
Billy Minof
26-04-2011, 22:04
Dale is on my list, Billy. But there are 2 other independant parties, so who would your other choice be?
Like I've said before, had my suspicions of Papa for a while, and also of Matt.
Im not too sure of the last culprit but Dale is top of my suspected list ATM, the other one could be anyone TBH, we never looked into the reborn players like Bammers and TH14 as some strange going ons happened when they respawned.
Ali_BWFC
26-04-2011, 22:07
Im not too sure of the last culprit but Dale is top of my suspected list ATM, the other one could be anyone TBH, we never looked into the reborn players like Bammers and TH14 as some strange going ons happened when they respawned.
Well I think Bammers is the one placing the wanted posters. Whether that means he's Texan or not.... I have no idea.
Billy Minof
26-04-2011, 22:12
Well I think Bammers is the one placing the wanted posters. Whether that means he's Texan or not.... I have no idea.
We need to focus on 1 at the time though and ensure that the majority of people feel we have enough of a reason to lynch someone, if we go mentioning alot of names at this stage it will split peoples opinions when we need to be United.
I have a few names that I think could be 3rd party but I am not as sure or have that feeling about Dale ATM, he was the first to pick up on the Apps thing and picked it up from relevantly no where, maybe a clue that he had an ability.
I am off now till tomorrow afternoon, keep an eye on the place for me. ;)
Bammers05
26-04-2011, 22:13
Just to clarify, in case it needed clarifying, these are the people left in the game atm:
Myself
Fick
Smudger
Ali
Bill
Papa
Dale
Matt
TH14
Dundon's
Matt, TH14 and Dundon's need to speak up more imo. I think Smudger's left forever tbh.
As I've said before, I'm suspicious of Dale and Matt atm.
Now, anyone up for a game of Liar's Dice? :ninja:
Im not too sure of the last culprit but Dale is top of my suspected list ATM, the other one could be anyone TBH, we never looked into the reborn players like Bammers and TH14 as some strange going ons happened when they respawned.
Matt, TH14 and Dundon's need to speak up more imo. I think Smudger's left forever tbh.
TH14 has been very quiet, as has Smudge. If there are other non-town roles here, they are obviously very quiet ones... maybe therein lies the answer... :hmm:
I have returned, I cannot reveal where I've been and who I've talked to but I shall say this....Change is coming
I have returned..
Coinkidink?
Ha, nah I was in London all day yesterday.
muscularmatt
26-04-2011, 23:31
I'm also still here. Don't attack me because I'm totally innocent and junk.
Bammers05
26-04-2011, 23:34
If you're so innocent and junk, why aren't you helping with the investigations?
Because Matt is the enemy.
muscularmatt
27-04-2011, 00:10
You guys are way off the mark. Dale is the enemy.
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 00:25
You guys are way off the mark. Dale is the enemy.
If Dale was the enemy, why is he trying to help with the investigations?
And if you're not the enemy, why are you not helping with them?
muscularmatt
27-04-2011, 01:19
I dunno. But seriously, I'm no baddie. Dundons has hardly said a word in here, for a guy that's usually got opinions coming out of his ears. I suspect him hugely.
Dundon's
27-04-2011, 01:53
I was going to suggest Dale aswell the other day but it was the "night time period" when I went to respond to his post regarding me being Dalton. It's was pretty obvious that I wasn't yet this chap decided to start name dropping me out of the blue.
I then read back over this thread recently and seen a lot of other folks thinking that he's dodgy aswell which has just helped rubber stamp my suspicions about him being anti Texan.
I'm voting Dale today.
muscularmatt
27-04-2011, 01:59
Or are you just trying to lead the charge against someone else because I've rumbled you???
Dundon's
27-04-2011, 02:16
Rumbled me?
I am rubber you are glue anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 08:36
It seems like we've all come under suspicion at some point in this game, apart from Billy, really. He seems to be a bit over-confident. Yes, he has helped with a few Dalton lynchings, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's Texan.
I think I'm going to vote Dale too. I'm on an iPhone now so will elaborate more fully when I'm able to get to a computer in a few hours but for now I will say that a mixture of people I believe to be Texan suspecting him, his unusual posting style and what Billy said about the Apps lynch lead me to believe he is third party.
EDIT: This doesn't mean my vote is final by the way as I'm not 100% on Dale, I'm just not entirely sure whether I'll be able to get on later so I'll vote for who I'm most suspicious of now and have the option of changing it later.
Since Sminky made it clear that we won't win unless we rumble the 3rd parties, then I can only go along with the majority here and vote Dale.
It is by no means an ideal scenario, but if we take no action then we'll lose anyway.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 12:53
No explanation, fick? Or are you just jumping on the bandwagon? :hmm:
No explanation, fick? Or are you just jumping on the bandwagon? :hmm:
It is by no means an ideal scenario, but if we take no action then we'll lose anyway.
I believe that was my explanation. Not voting for anyone is detrimental to the town, voting for someone that no-one else votes for could end up costing a lynch. We have to be decisive here, day 10 is not far away and like I said, we reach that date, we lose regardless.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 13:34
I believe that was my explanation. Not voting for anyone is detrimental to the town, voting for someone that no-one else votes for could end up costing a lynch. We have to be decisive here, day 10 is not far away and like I said, we reach that date, we lose regardless.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
Hmmmmmmm, I guess you're right. Either way, if we get to the end of day 10 and haven't lynched the 2 independant parties.... we lose, regardless of whether we accidently lynch a Texan, or we go lynchless. However, for me, Dale isn't the best option. So I'm gonna wait until everyone has their say.
We need to be spot on with these lynches. 2 days left, 2 independant parties remain. We've done well so far, really well. People's judgement has been pretty much spot on so far (except for laughin man).
muscularmatt
27-04-2011, 14:13
BANDWAGON!! Let's kill that brummie cunt.
Dundons, you got off brah. I still don't trust you though...
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 14:23
Hmmmm. Unless Dale can give a decent defence, I shall vote for him.
But let it be known!....
I don't trust any of you :shifty:
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 14:38
It seems like we've all come under suspicion at some point in this game, apart from Billy, really. He seems to be a bit over-confident. Yes, he has helped with a few Dalton lynchings, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's Texan.
There is good reason that I havent been under suspicion and that is because I am Texan true and true, I havent just helped in 1 lynching but I was apart of them all and even pointed out which people were not Dalton and who could have been, I was against the LM lynch and apart from that I dont see what else more I could do to prove I am the only person here that can be trusted, the Daltons didnt lynch me because they knew what would happen to them, either way, John Wayne never loses, even fistycuffs.
Hmmmm. Unless Dale can give a decent defence, I shall vote for him.
But let it be known!....
I don't trust any of you :shifty:
Dale wont be around, I think he said that he was busy until Day 10 so I dont know if we will hear any response.
I will probably vote Dale, if he is Innocent then I will name and shame the remaining 2 non town folk.....and thats a promise. ;)
It is by no means an ideal scenario, but if we take no action then we'll lose anyway.
Exactly. People have no choice at this stage in the game but to jump on the bandwagon because if we dont lynch, then we dont win, we have to be together and make that vote count tonight.
Yes You Can. :laugh:
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 14:48
There is good reason that I havent been under suspicion and that is because I am Texan true and true, I havent just helped in 1 lynching but I was apart of them all and even pointed out which people were not Dalton and who could have been, I was against the LM lynch and apart from that I dont see what else more I could do to prove I am the only person here that can be trusted, the Daltons didnt lynch me because they knew what would happen to them, either way, John Wayne never loses, even fistycuffs.
Be instrumental in the Dalton lynchings doesn't mean you are Texan, it just means you are anti-Dalton. You couldn't have possibly played a part in the lynchings of Phats and Bish, unless you were the person who posted the wanted posters.
Dale wont be around, I think he said that he was busy until Day 10 so I dont know if we will hear any response.
I will probably vote Dale, if he is Innocent then I will name and shame the remaining 2 non town folk.....and thats a promise. ;)
OK, so Dale won't be around. People could use this as an advantage. They could go ahead and vote for him, knowing he won't be around to defend himself.
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 15:28
Be instrumental in the Dalton lynchings doesn't mean you are Texan, it just means you are anti-Dalton. You couldn't have possibly played a part in the lynchings of Phats and Bish, unless you were the person who posted the wanted posters.
If I was just anti Dalton then why did I defend other Texans like LM, and defending Dundons who I also think is Texan, there are 1 or 2 others names that cropped up and straight away I said no, they are Texan like Joel......
OK, so Dale won't be around. People could use this as an advantage. They could go ahead and vote for him, knowing he won't be around to defend himself.
Well if people are going to vote for him there isnt much he can do whether he is online or not but we need to be reaching a conclusion point.
How many votes are now needed for a lynch?
We have to be decisive here, day 10 is not far away and like I said, we reach that date, we lose regardless.
Seems pretty straightforward to me.
No, it's really not.
I will probably vote Dale, if he is Innocent then I will name and shame the remaining 2 non town folk.....and thats a promise. ;)
I see i'm being "Majority lynched" here (with two people voting, it's a pretty pathetic reason to vote to be honest).
I'm just going to come out and say it because it looks like my hand is up.
I am third party, but I am Allan Pinkerton, the remaining Pinkerton detective.
Why am I telling you this? Because I am third party, but I am still pro-town. I've been the one posting the wanted posters (I was only allowed to post 2) and i've been investigating people every other day, starting from day 2 (these are the instructions Sminky gave me, obviously i'm not going to post the PM).
As Billy picked up on (very shrewdly) that I picked up the Appswah suspicion from pretty much nowhere i.e. an investigation. I could only investigate during the day, and I investigated TH who turned out to be a dead Texan (during the night phase), then I investigated Appswah and I was told he was a Dalton (but didn't tell me which one he was).
I've investigated several other people, and i'd just like to tell you that I know who the other third party is.
If you lynch me today, you will not know who the third party is, and here is another bombshell; if you let me live until day 10, I will announce my findings and kill myself apparantly, so I end the game, not Sminky.
You Texans will win the game if you let me live. If you lynch me, the odds are stacked against you, and you will most probably lose.
Any questions you have I will gladly answer, because it seems like i'm being hounded here, and like Laughin man, I will go out honourably.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 15:34
Interesting revelation there. I'm not sure if you're allowed to reveal your role this time.... but as there's not much time left in the game, I'm sure Sminky can let it slide.
Can you not reveal your findings earlier Dale?
We're allowed to reveal it, just not to post proof enit?
What would you like to know Texan Ali? All of my findings?
muscularmatt
27-04-2011, 15:38
He's bluffing. KILL HIM!!
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 15:39
No, it's really not.
I see i'm being "Majority lynched" here (with two people voting, it's a pretty pathetic reason to vote to be honest).
I'm just going to come out and say it because it looks like my hand is up.
I am third party, but I am Allan Pinkerton, the remaining Pinkerton detective.
Why am I telling you this? Because I am third party, but I am still pro-town. I've been the one posting the wanted posters (I was only allowed to post 2) and i've been investigating people every other day, starting from day 2 (these are the instructions Sminky gave me, obviously i'm not going to post the PM).
As Billy picked up on (very shrewdly) that I picked up the Appswah suspicion from pretty much nowhere i.e. an investigation. I could only investigate during the day, and I investigated TH who turned out to be a dead Texan (during the night phase), then I investigated Appswah and I was told he was a Dalton (but didn't tell me which one he was).
I've investigated several other people, and i'd just like to tell you that I know who the other third party is.
If you lynch me today, you will not know who the third party is, and here is another bombshell; if you let me live until day 10, I will announce my findings and kill myself apparantly, so I end the game, not Sminky.
You Texans will win the game if you let me live. If you lynch me, the odds are stacked against you, and you will most probably lose.
Any questions you have I will gladly answer, because it seems like i'm being hounded here, and like Laughin man, I will go out honourably.
:laugh: Nice bluff, Allan
You've pretty much just made up my mind.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 15:40
Well, Dale..... I'd rather wait to see if Sminky will allow such information to be flatly revealed. Don't want to fuck the game up even more :(
EDIT: Why say you, Bammers?
Bammers what the fuck man? Are you allergic to winning or something?
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 15:44
EDIT: Why say you, Bammers?
Because he's clearly bluffing. If he wasn't, then why is he hesitant to tell us the names of the people he's investigated? And have you noticed how the people he has mentioned are dead now?
And if he did place those wanted posters, why wasn't he trying to sway people's votes to vote for those people in the first place? If he'd done that, he wouldn't have had to place those posters. He even defended Phatmann. I'm not for a second buying it.
He even defended Phatmann.
Bingo! I'd forgotten that. Looks pretty shaky story Dale.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 15:47
I dunno Bammers.... I just don't know. If it is a bluff, it's one hell of an elaborate one! It's not like he's just saying "because I role blocked you". When you were Pinkerton, did you know that there was another one?
EDIT: I know he defended Phats, but saying HE put up the poster is a big risk, if he wasn't the one to do it.
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 15:49
I dunno Bammers.... I just don't know. If it is a bluff, it's one hell of an elaborate one! It's not like he's just saying "because I role blocked you". When you were Pinkerton, did you know that there was another one?
Not allowed to say. My mind has been wiped of all Pinkerton memories.
What he's said is, indeed, elaborate, but it simply doesn't make sense in comparison with some of his actions, as I showed in my last post.
EDIT: Ali, it's not really a risk tbh. Neither of the 3rd parties appear to have a killing role and one of them could be Dale anyway, and the mafia are gone, so it's not like he's gonna be killed, because of it, at this point.
I defended phatmann because I was told he had a special role, as a Dalton. Something that we can't be sure on until the end of the game. So unless the other third party is a bus driver role, then I wasn't about to risk anything.
Bammers, ask and I shall tell. You're jumping the gun a bit here, something you again condemned me for when I jumped into defending phatmann. You are the biggest hypocrite ever!
No-one has asked me anything! You're all just voting for me, when it's going to lose you the game! All you have seen is that 'i'm third party' and you're all voting!
None of you have read anything that i've posted, apart from Ali (who isn't dead by the way, and I investigated him and he is a texan, AS I POSTED).
Bammers you dick, read my post again! I'm virtually giving you victory on a plate, why aren't you taking it?! All you have to do is ask!
I'm obviously not going to come in here and blurt out investigations, so i've tried to do it in a more intelligent way, and still you go off on one! :faceplm:
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 15:51
Well, Dale..... I'd rather wait to see if Sminky will allow such information to be flatly revealed. Don't want to fuck the game up even more :(
EDIT: Why say you, Bammers?
Because he's clearly bluffing. If he wasn't, then why is he hesitant to tell us the names of the people he's investigated? And have you noticed how the people he has mentioned are dead now?
And if he did place those wanted posters, why wasn't he trying to sway people's votes to vote for those people in the first place? If he'd done that, he wouldn't have had to place those posters. He even defended Phatmann. I'm not for a second buying it.
Bingo! I'd forgotten that. Looks pretty shaky story Dale.
Pull the other one Dale.....Your a bluffer and your caught. :laugh:
EDIT: Ali is starting to sound more and more like his associate.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 15:55
Not allowed to say. My mind has been wiped of all Pinkerton memories.
What he's said is, indeed, elaborate, but it simply doesn't make sense in comparison with some of his actions, as I showed in my last post.
EDIT: Ali, it's not really a risk tbh. Neither of the 3rd parties appear to have a killing role and one of them could be Dale anyway, and the mafia are gone, so it's not like he's gonna be killed, because of it, at this point.
It is a risk, because if he wasn't the real poster, the real one would instantly sniff him out. So unless the "real" one wants to come forward (or is allowed to), I'm not convinced.
EDIT: Billy.... surely the fact that they're "independant" should mean that they're on their own. Also, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to defend him so much if I was on his side?
Pull the other one Dale.....Your a bluffer and your caught. :laugh:
EDIT: Ali is starting to sound more and more like his associate.
:faceplm:
Ali is just thinking about it logically! And you're all getting your knickers in a twist because i've not declared your allegiance!
Out of interest, does anybody actually want to know what I investigated, or am I a dead man walking regardless?
Edit: Also Billy, I have no alliances now. I'm third party but i'm pro town. Take it to the 10th day without killing me and the Texans will win.
I'm obviously not going to come in here and blurt out investigations, so i've tried to do it in a more intelligent way, and still you go off on one! :faceplm:
But you already have allegedly. You said Ali was Town, you have also told us that you knew who the Daltons were (the wanted posters), so why not your other 'investigations'
It all seems flaky Dale.
EDIT: Billy.... surely the fact that they're "independant" should mean that they're on their own. Also, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to defend him so much if I was on his side?
Surely the Pinkertons would be aware of each other? They were an agency were they not? So effectively they would operate as a pro-town clan?
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 16:02
I defended phatmann because I was told he had a special role, as a Dalton. Something that we can't be sure on until the end of the game. So unless the other third party is a bus driver role, then I wasn't about to risk anything.
Surely a Dalton with a 'special role' is even more dangerous than a regular Dalton? Regardless, he was still mafia and you should've tried to get rid of him, but, instead, you defended him.
Bammers, ask and I shall tell. You're jumping the gun a bit here, something you again condemned me for when I jumped into defending phatmann. You are the biggest hypocrite ever!
Ok, give me a list of everyone you've investigated, on each night and there roles.
I don't really see how 'condemning' you for defending Phatmann is 'hypocritical'. You defended a Dalton. That made me suspicious.
No-one has asked me anything! You're all just voting for me, when it's going to lose you the game! All you have seen is that 'i'm third party' and you're all voting!
No-one's said you're third party, but there is more evidence pointing to you than to anyone else and we need to lynch someone.
None of you have read anything that i've posted, apart from Ali (who isn't dead by the way, and I investigated him and he is a texan, AS I POSTED).
Where did you post that you invetsigated Ali and he was a Texan? It seems a bit 'convenient' that you're defending the one person who defended you.
Bammers you dick, read my post again! I'm virtually giving you victory on a plate, why aren't you taking it?! All you have to do is ask!
The aggressive language is unnecessary. You're hardly giving us 'victory on a plate', you're just trying to save your own skin. You haven't mentioned who is 3rd party and if we don't vote for you, we're in the same conundrum we were in before, anyway.
I'm obviously not going to come in here and blurt out investigations, so i've tried to do it in a more intelligent way, and still you go off on one! :faceplm:
I don't see who you have to be afraid of. The mafia are gone and the 3rd party roles don't seem to have a killing power, so I don't see what would be wrong with blurting out your investigations, at this point. Then, if you are lynched and are a Pinkerton, you can at least help your 'fellow Texans'.
Fick, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED!!!!! Everyone is always going on about how tactful you should be, and how everyone always wants to interrogate people, SO INTERROGATE ME!!!!!!!!
Oh my fucking god, this is ridiculous!!!! It seems flaky because i've not been asked anything! I'm not about to announce all my findings straight away because that will make me look more suspicious!
Jesus christ :faceplm:
Edit: Ok Bammers finally.
That's what i'm saying, I didn't want to risk exposing him if he had some mad power that would let him kill two people in one night or whatever, I didn't want to risk it.
I called Ali "Texan Ali" In big bold, italic letters for you all to see. Proving you didn't read my post properly.
Yes I am giving you victory on a plate! Like I said, I want to go out honourably, and Sminky said I was pro-town anyway, i'm just trying to help the Texans win the game, and if you make it to day 10 without killing me, you will win the game!!
You won't be in the same conundrum at all, not by a long shot. If you kill me you'll have no idea who the third party is. I have that information, which i'm about to post now. I just need to get all my times and everything in order, i've got about 6 different notepad documents with different shit on.
No, because if I get lynched, how will I be helping anyone? I'm not going to reveal anything until you all get off my back, why would I?
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 16:03
It is a risk, because if he wasn't the real poster, the real one would instantly sniff him out. So unless the "real" one wants to come forward (or is allowed to), I'm not convinced.
EDIT: Billy.... surely the fact that they're "independant" should mean that they're on their own. Also, do you really think I'd be stupid enough to defend him so much if I was on his side?
Firstly you were saying I could be Anti Town after I starting pointing the finger at Dale, then you say that Dale should be lynched while he is not online, now Dale comes back and makes up a big spoof that he is Pickerinton and now you are defending him, I can see past his bluff as can others, also Sminky said that "they" would win the game after Day 11 and 2 teams cannot win it can they?
Also, what is his ability, can he cause damage on Day 10 to prevent us from voting therefore giving the game to the enemy????
I say lets lynch his ass.....
EDIT: Ya Bammers I ment to say that.
Surely a Dalton with a 'special role' is even more dangerous than a regular Dalton? Regardless, he was still mafia and you should've tried to get rid of him, but, instead, you defended him.
Fick, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED!!!!!
Do you want us on bended knee? Why do we need to ask? You have proffered that you are willing to givethe info, you have effectively come out of the closet, yet you still require us to beg for your findings?
I say lets lynch his ass.....
Darn tootin'. Kill the fucker.
Bill - Vote in bold in the voting thread mate, otherwise Sminky will not count it ;)
Ahh fuck you all, i'm not revealing shit, you can lose the game for all I care.
Well done lads, another loss to your name. I'd be pretty pissed off if I were a Texan right now.
:faceplm:
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 16:13
Ahh fuck you all, i'm not revealing shit, you can lose the game for all I care.
Well done lads, another loss to your name. I'd be pretty pissed off if I were a Texan right now.
:faceplm:
Yeah yeah yeah....you havent or never had anything to reveal except who your partner in crime is.
I'm going to enjoy the loss Billy, i'm not gonna lie.
I'm pro-town, but it doesn't mean I have to like it :)
Shame, I was all for going out honourably as well, never mind. Good luck with finding the last third party role guys, you're going to need it. A lot.
EDIT: Almost forgot about this; Nobody picked up on my avatar did they then? It's starting you right in the face....A law enforcer who doesn't really help the town....a copper who people don't really see as a copper....
Has anyone even watched the damn film :faceplm:
I've seen pathetic desperation before but this takes the biscuit.
Adios Dale.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 16:46
Firstly you were saying I could be Anti Town after I starting pointing the finger at Dale, then you say that Dale should be lynched while he is not online, now Dale comes back and makes up a big spoof that he is Pickerinton and now you are defending him, I can see past his bluff as can others, also Sminky said that "they" would win the game after Day 11 and 2 teams cannot win it can they?
Also, what is his ability, can he cause damage on Day 10 to prevent us from voting therefore giving the game to the enemy????
I say lets lynch his ass.....
EDIT: Ya Bammers I ment to say that.
No no no no. I'm saying that you can't use the fact that you were influential in lynching 2 mafia members as reason to prove you are pro town. It only proves you are anti Dalton. Pay attention man!
Where did I say that we should lynch Dale because he is not online? I said that others were gunning for him because they knew he would be offline until this evening (obviously not the case now), so they assumed he couldn't defend himself.
Also, Sminky said it would be a joint victory for the 3rd parties, didn't he?
Didn't you say that you wouldn't be on til late? Yet as soon as I mentioned you, you felt the need to pop on and defend yourself?
Yeah yeah yeah....you havent or never had anything to reveal except who your partner in crime is.
I don't think any of them have partners in crime. If there are 2 days left, and 2 independant parties, judging by what Sminky said, surely that only means 1 per party?
I said that others were gunning for him because they knew he would be offline until this evening (obviously not the case now), so they assumed he couldn't defend himself.
I'm glad Dale was available, it makes it easier, especially by being so cryptic. If he really though doing nothing would allow the town to win then he was misguided (bearing in mind Sminky said no action would mean the towns defeat). It just added fuel to the fire that something stinks about Dales story.
Also, Sminky said it would be a joint victory for the 3rd parties, didn't he?
I was under the impression that the town would lose... I don't recall anything about joint victories...
Billy Minof
27-04-2011, 16:58
No no no no. I'm saying that you can't use the fact that you were influential in lynching 2 mafia members as reason to prove you are pro town. It only proves you are anti Dalton. Pay attention man!
Of course I am anti Dalton, I never denied it. ;)
Where did I say that we should lynch Dale because he is not online? I said that others were gunning for him because they knew he would be offline until this evening (obviously not the case now), so they assumed he couldn't defend himself.
OK, so Dale won't be around. People could use this as an advantage. They could go ahead and vote for him, knowing he won't be around to defend himself.
People were naming him ever before they knew he was offline, a few minutes after your post he turns up?
Also, Sminky said it would be a joint victory for the 3rd parties, didn't he?
Didn't you say that you wouldn't be on til late? Yet as soon as I mentioned you, you felt the need to pop on and defend yourself?
I dont know what Sminky said about it mate, I cant remember, there may be 1 or 2 but either way we need to get both.
As for me, I said I wouldnt be on until this afternoon. ;)
EDIT: You are defending him to your grave. Keep digging.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 16:58
I'm glad Dale was available, it makes it easier, especially by being so cryptic. If he really though doing nothing would allow the town to win then he was misguided (bearing in mind Sminky said no action would mean the towns defeat). It just added fuel to the fire that something stinks about Dales story.
I was under the impression that the town would lose... I don't recall anything about joint victories...
Joint victory for the 3rd parties, but the town would lose.
I'm glad Dale was available, it makes it easier, especially by being so cryptic. If he really though doing nothing would allow the town to win then he was misguided (bearing in mind Sminky said no action would mean the towns defeat). It just added fuel to the fire that something stinks about Dales story.
I was under the impression that the town would lose... I don't recall anything about joint victories...
I'm not misguided, that's exactly what would have happened. Sminky had to say that, otherwise it would have given away my role. He had to be the standard moderator, he can't disclose information about anything otherwise people will wise onto other people. Honestly Fick, I would have thought you'd have been more intelligent about this.
The town will lose mate, it's a shame because it was looking so good.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 17:02
Greetings. All a bit of a rush catching up. Apologies for the slap dash nature of this post ...
A wanted poster has been placed for TheBishop. He has recieved the full votes required for a lynching.
Voting closed.
The Town lynched TheBishop. No longer is three the magic number. Its four.
TheBishop was the remaining Dalton.
For the first time in Mafia Wars history the Town has slain all the members of a Mafia Family. With TheBishop killed the Dalton Gang Bandits are defeated.
However.
Two independent 3rd parties remain before the Town is victorious. For the 3rd Parties to win all the need do is sit tight. If the game reaches Day 10 both parties are joint winners.
Right, well.... what do you want me to do Billy? If I vote for him now, you'll just think I'm doing it to make myself appear innocent. If I don't vote, you'll use it as a reason to make me look guilty.
Hmm intresting read Mr. Dale but prehaps you're double bluffing...
I think it's blatantly obvious that Dale's bluffing. He knows that his time is up and so he's trying to save his skin. Dale is quite obviously one of the third parties, he has made that pretty clear to us. Now we have to start looking for the other one.
Bammers
Fick
Smudger
Ali
Bill
Papa
Dale
Matt
TH14
Dundon's
Those are the last remaining members. We mustn't forget (as I have a couple of times) that even though Bammers and TH14 were townies first time around, they may not be now they have been brought back.
Hmm intresting read Mr. Dale but prehaps you're double bluffing...
I wouldn't even bother dude, the game is over. The texans have lost. Again :laugh:
Now we have to start looking for the other one.
It won't matter Papa, it'll still be a waste of time. The texans have played a shite end to the game and it's going to result in a loss.
I wouldn't even bother dude, the game is over. The texans have lost. Again :laugh:
It won't matter Papa, it'll still be a waste of time. The texans have played a shite end to the game and it's going to result in a loss.
No, it's fine mate. We'll lynch you today and then all we have to do is take out the other third party bugger tomorrow and we've won for once.
Yeah, you have to find him first. :laugh:
Gutted for you. Needle in a haystack. You'll never guess who it is.
Papa you seem very determined to lynch Dale...
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 20:52
Yeah, you have to find him first. :laugh:
Gutted for you. Needle in a haystack. You'll never guess who it is.
Is it smudger? I know you would have investigated him if you are a detective.... we all know how much you love smudger ;)
Papa you seem very determined to lynch Dale...
Because he's lying.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 21:46
Do we need any more votes to lynch Dale?
We have 6 so far. I don't know how many we need but I notice you haven't voted.
Because he's lying.
No i'm not.
Yeah because Ali is playing the game properly! Instead of blindly rushing into a safe lynch because it will see 'the mob' safe! It's unreal how stupid everyone is being.
But oh well, the town has collapsed at the last hurdle, again.
Edit: You seem pretty sure that i'm lying Papa. How could you possibly know?
You got anything you would like to tell the texans?
;)
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 21:50
I've voted for Dale, because we need a lynch either way. I'm not happy about it, so if Dale does turn out to be telling the truth, you're all to blame.... not me :cool:
If Dale is Allan Pinkerton I will eat my metaphorical cowboy hat.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 21:57
If Dale is Allan Pinkerton I will eat my metaphorical cowboy hat.
Well, people have been spot on with their lynches so far, so I will be disappointed if you're wrong with this one. I know if Dale turns out to be a bad guy, the heat will be on me. If so, I say bring it on!
EDIT: Sminky isn't even online. I'll message him on PSN...... oh wait! :faceplm:
EDIT 2: Now he is.
Hang tight chaps while I get up to speed with events ...
Day 9 Summary:
... And so it was on the 9th Day in the Western plains of Texas that the towns folk looked with suspicious eyes at Dale.
The town with a new found level of determination and certainty strung up Dale and hung his body up from the brothel rafters until lifeless.
The town chose wisely.
Dale was the bandit Sam Bass
An independent 3rd party Bandit.
Abilities
- Drunk, Every other day, starting from Day 2, you get drunk and wander out of town. If you are selected to be lynched by the town it will fail as they cannot locate you to kill
- Whore, every night session you can choose to sleep with the local whore who may on occasions provide you random special abilities.
If you are selected for death by a rival – and you chose to screw the whore - your whore will take the bullet for you. If she dies you lose access to her other abilities.
In the event the whore stays alive the following random events may occur at night ... but never more than once each during the entire game ...
1. She may tell you the name of a gun owner.
2. She may kill someone you voted for during the day session.
3. She may protect you from being investigated.
The town has now achieved the accolade of successfully lynching only bandits.
Well done.
One remains. You have a further day to find him and hang him.
:joel:
Edit: I did never get that killing a randomer ability, Sminky.
Pretty hard role to make the most of, but I nearly made it! If I had got to day 10, I would have survived. Damn you.
Ali_BWFC
27-04-2011, 22:13
Haha!
Ok, I take my metaphorical hat off to you all!
I think that role was chosen with Dale in mind :laugh:
Haha!
Ok, I take my metaphorical hat off to you all!
I think that role was chosen with Dale in mind :laugh:
And I shall keep my metaphorical hat on my head, rather than in my stomach.
I think that role was chosen with Dale in mind :laugh:
You're right, it was, as soon as I selected Dale as a bandit the role seemed to design itself :)
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 22:17
:D Great job, everyone.
Just one more left now. We need everyone talking tomorrow - that means you, Matt, TH14 and Dundons, as this will, obviously, greatly increase our chances. WE CAN DO THIS!
laughin man
27-04-2011, 22:29
Good job lads ;)
Just one thing is on my mind, if the town succesfully lynched anti-towns on every chance they got how is it they now only have one more day to win the game. It seems a very biased game against the town?
I was rather fond of the last man standing rule
Its just to bring the game to a close mate, its been a fairly drawn out affair. 10 Day and 10 night sessions is more than long enough for a game length.
Its just to bring the game to a close mate, its been a fairly drawn out affair. 10 Day and 10 night sessions is more than long enough for a game length.
You would think that, wouldn't you? :lol:
You would think that, wouldn't you? :lol:
I don't think I could handle the thought of still having to work on this game 15 sessions in :laugh:
Posting may resume 8pm tomorrow.
Can it not just go straight to the Day time again since there's no Dalton Gang involved? Or does the 3rd party individual have powers that can only be used at night?
He does indeed - but If he is happy for me to skip night 9 and jump into day 10 I will oblige.
Honestly Fick, I would have thought you'd have been more intelligent about this.
Not a tactical post (I have only just got back from my Mums.. she's 70 today so I think not being here was justified!)
Just wanted to say... Tough shit Dale. Nice try though :laugh:
Nice try though :laugh:
:laugh: No such thing as a nice try in this game mate.
What if I really was the cop? No-body would have believed me, which proves this game is all about trying to survive rather than winning.
I was discussing it with Matt earlier, and I likened it to playing Call of Duty. Trying to to boost your K/D ratio rather than actually trying to win the game.
It matters not that you "saw through my ploy" (which I maintain you didn't, even though you voted for me anyway. I know what I mean), it's all about mob mentality, and I have saw through this whole game.
It's pretty boring and this one will probably be my last.
And no I won't type in grey because I refuse to conform to western society.
Bammers05
27-04-2011, 23:45
http://www.brainlesstales.com/images/2011/Mar/sour-grapes.jpg
C'mon Dale, don't do an Amateur.
EDIT: I'm not discussing tactics. Please don't freeze my voting :)
The current format of games will cease after this one. The next batch of games will be much faster paced and shorter affairs. A one townie to Seven separate Mafia will be one variant. The townie has to survive for 4 days to win.
A one townie to Seven separate Mafia will be one variant. The townie has to survive for 4 days to win.
That sounds fun. Might be difficult to balance though... be interesting to see how you proverbially, pull it off.
It's not sour grapes at all mate, I just don't like how the game is played. The only person who was even remotely interested in hearing what I had to say was Ali, the rest of you hounds (:laugh:) were only interested in saving your own backside. It's the truth man.
Didn't help that my entire interest was ruined because of smudger, and I was a little bit less cautious with what I was saying. ALSO doesn't help that people can ghost through the game.
Actually, I think i'll only continue in the next game if everyone joins in an acceptable amount. If not, i'll totally ruin the game for everyone :laugh:
Anyway, i'm pretty proud that I made it through this far. My abilities were pretty shite and still I made it this far. Not sour grapes at all.
Why not do a zombie themed game?
Why not do a zombie themed game?
Bollocks to that, giving the game an undead theme would give Bammers an unfair advantage.
The current format has definitely run its course, the first 4 days are usually the most frenetic before interest naturally declines. It'll be tricky but it'll no doubt be fun. Something this game has lacked recently.
The current format has definitely run its course, the first 4 days are usually the most frenetic before interest naturally declines. It'll be tricky but it'll no doubt be fun. Something this game has lacked recently.
I think because during this game there have been a few moments which have involved 2 or 3 members arguing and sometimes it takes up a couple of pages and not everyone can be bothered to read through it.
It went a bit off the rails. Maybe the rules needed to be finer tuned but I had hoped not to have to post Dostoevsky-esque length rules.
The only problems with this game were the whole DF/Smudger thing, the mafia being eliminated one after the other and people saying they want to play and then do nothing all game.
It wasn't as good as the last one though. I did like what Dale done earlier today though. He actually tried to fight for his life by bluffing, rather than just laying down or giving the whole, "lynch me then" line.
Edit: The rules don't need to be fine tuned. If anything, they are too many as it is now. I was shocked when I looked back today and saw that you made a rule where people can't reveal their roles, when this is a key element of the game (whether they are being truthful or not).
Edit: The rules don't need to be fine tuned. If anything, they are too many as it is now. I was shocked when I looked back today and saw that you made a rule where people can't reveal their roles, when this is a key element of the game (whether they are being truthful or not).
It proved divisive last game, it was an unfortunate necessity this time round.
It proved divisive last game, it was an unfortunate necessity this time round.
There was no problem with it on the last game. It was a great piece of play from Bammers.
He had everyone believing he was the roleblocker, had Ali doubting himself, and then chose Ali to join his cult to make sure the bluff stayed solid.
That and the night where Phatmann switched Papa and Bammers is were key to the game being a success.
Eliminating tactics on where the game is built from is not good.
Have to agree with Joel on this one Smink. Even though he is a quitter.
There was no problem with it on the last game. It was a great piece of play from Bammers.
He had everyone believing he was the roleblocker, had Ali doubting himself, and then chose Ali to join his cult to make sure the bluff stayed solid.
That and the night where Phatmann switched Papa and Bammers is were key to the game being a success.
Eliminating tactics on where the game is built from is not good.
I beg to differ, the game turned into "What special Role I have" and it was excessive. Still, horses for courses, I feel I've started to develop the game away from its original foundation now with the rules and roles for the benefit of the players.
laughin man
28-04-2011, 01:16
I beg to differ, the game turned into "What special Role I have" and it was excessive. Still, horses for courses, I feel I've started to develop the game away from its original foundation now with the rules and roles for the benefit of the players.
Its like a game of poker, if you eliminate bluffing it wouldnt nearly be as fun ;)
muscularmatt
28-04-2011, 02:13
How about we all post pictures of our penises on imageshack or something and then see who wins???
Didn't think so. :SMUG:
How about we all post pictures of our penises on imageshack or something
Something for your 'private' collection Matt? :lol:
Posting may resume, for those still interested.
Well this is it lads. We get one shot to root out the bastard. Get this lynch right and we win. If anyone's got any bright ideas, now's the time to air them.
muscularmatt
28-04-2011, 20:37
It's you isn't it, Papa? On the brink of victory so you thought you'd be proactive and try and start the charge against someone else.
As you only have a limited amount of time left game wise you may reveal (or bluff as the case may be) what your role is. You can't post PM's from me though.
Phatmann
28-04-2011, 20:46
As you only have a limited amount of time left game wise you may reveal (or bluff as the case may be) what your role is. You can't post PM's from me though.
But can they post PM's from Dragonfly? :shfty:
But can they post PM's from Dragonfly? :shfty:
:lol:
But can they post PM's from Dragonfly? :shfty:
Some fine work sir, have some rep :lol:
Dundon's
28-04-2011, 21:20
I haven't posted much anyways because I'm hardy online anymore these days, for what's in it I didn't find any of the games boring or dragged out, if this was a few year ago I'd of racked up 1000 posts per game, easy -.-
Anyways, kudos to me for being the first man to vote Dale and get the ball rolling, the first cut is the deepest. Getting back to my role. I said it from the beginning and I'm saying it again, my role is basic Texan. If I'm lying I am willing to step forward in the next game to be lynched 1st.
Seriously!!! If it is found out that I am a liar all one person needs do is quote this post in the new game and I will buy the matches.
Now lets finish this thing.
P.S. Is it night time or day time now? I see the lads posting but the thread says night, so I'm like WTF?
P.S. Is it night time or day time now? I see the lads posting but the thread says night, so I'm like WTF?
Day time starts at 10 but we can post from 8. I'm going to wait the 13ish minutes and see if anything happened overnight before properly starting my investigations.
Right, nowt happened last night so let the free for all begin.
It's you isn't it, Papa? On the brink of victory so you thought you'd be proactive and try and start the charge against someone else.
No it isn't.
But I would like Ali, Bammers and Dundon's to get here and start talking.
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 22:10
I think everyone needs to be talking, Papa. Especially those who've been quieter throughout the game - we need everyone doing their bit today.
That was quick! But yeah, we need everyone on.
What's your list of suspects, Bammers?
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 22:32
That was quick! But yeah, we need everyone on.
What's your list of suspects, Bammers?
Well, for starters, it's always important for us to be wary of the quieter ones. I've mentioned a few times that I want Muscularmatt, TH14 and Dundon's to comment more, for that very reason.
My main suspect, at this point, is Dundon's. I've been thinking of the first lynching of Appswah, where it didn't look like it would happen until Dundon's intervened and got Laughin Man and Buffalo Bill to come online, in order to get the lynch done. Now, although there was, undoubtedly a lot of evidence against Appswah, there's no way that Dundon's could've known for sure that Appswah was a Texan, especially as he hadn't participated in the game that much, and that leads me to believe that, perhaps, he just wanted to get a lynching, regardless of whether it was a Texan or a Dalton, which would show why he went to such lengths to get the lynching done and would indicate that he's an independent 3rd party. I'd be interested to hear his defence though.
And, Papa, who are your suspects at this moment of time?
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:lol:
muscularmatt
28-04-2011, 22:38
I am a Texan. I have the bodyguard ability, which I haven't used yet, so there's genuinely no point in attacking me.
I think it's Papa. Anyone else?
I am a Texan. I have the bodyguard ability, which I haven't used yet, so there's genuinely no point in attacking me.
I think it's Papa. Anyone else?
You're telling the truth about yourself (or at least that you are a 'special role Texan') but your guess is wrong.
I know that because, unlike Dale, I actually am Allan Pinkerton. Hence why I knew so completely that he was bluffing. I can tell you all in fact that there are only four people that this last third party can be:
Ali
Bammers
Dundon's
Smudger
The others I've either investigated or are part of my detective agency (I won't reveal who they are as that's up to them to say or not say their own roles).
For what it's worth, I am pretty sure Smudger's a Texan and think that Bammers and Ali are probably Texan too, leaving Dundon's. Though, technically it could be any of those four.
Jury is still out on the last guilty party. I did suspect papa, but then he was a positive part of the finishing of the Daltons.
Really we need to see who has been effectively working alone. Wont be easy though.
My current feelings are TH14 and Dundons(in no particular order), but I agree with what's already been said in that people need to get involved to finish this.
Edit: to remove Matt from suspect list...
Word from above:
As its the last day I'll let the Town lynch TWO players.
One Texan player is invincible and cannot be killed but he also cannot vote.
The bandit role permits one kill at anytime during the game day or night.
Word from above:
As its the last day I'll let the Town lynch TWO players.
One Texan player is invincible and cannot be killed but he also cannot vote.
The bandit role permits one kill at anytime during the game day or night.
So is that two votes each then?
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 23:02
Presumably
Interesting twist & improved odds for the town, me likey!
My current feelings are TH14 and Dundons(in no particular order), but I agree with what's already been said in that people need to get involved to finish this.
This sums it up really. I think it's just us three on now, which will get us nowhere new.
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 23:14
Seeing as we have 2 lynches now, I think it may be worth using one of them on Smudger, as he appears to have left the game/site and doesn't appear to be coming back. I'd hate for him to somehow win it, despite having not played for the last 4 days.
Not a bad call Bammers. It's possible that if Smudge had been on then he would have given away his allegiances due to incompetency anyway...
Either that or we off you as a reborn additional bandit & Dundons just for the hell of it ;)
Seeing as we have 2 lynches now, I think it may be worth using one of them on Smudger, as he appears to have left the game/site and doesn't appear to be coming back. I'd hate for him to somehow win it, despite having not played for the last 4 days.
Definitely not a bad idea. Especially as his actions fucked the game up. I don't think he is the remaining third party though because I think with the extended absence Sminky would have kicked him out if he wasn't a standard Texan.
EDIT: Any comment on the suspicion of you?
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 23:26
Not a bad call Bammers. It's possible that if Smudge had been on then he would have given away his allegiances due to incompetency anyway...
Either that or we off you as a reborn additional bandit & Dundons just for the hell of it ;)
I'd really prefer it if you didn't :)
Definitely not a bad idea. Especially as his actions fucked the game up. I don't think he is the remaining third party though because I think with the extended absence Sminky would have kicked him out if he wasn't a standard Texan.
EDIT: Any comment on the suspicion of you?
Yeh, that's a fair point, but, on the other hand, if Smudger had as bland a role as a regular Texan, then surely Sminky would have been willing to get rid of him?
As for the suspicion of me, well, all I can say really is that I'm a regular Texan. The only thing levelled at me so far is that I'm not one of the ones you've investigated, so I'm, understandably, under suspicion, which I think is fair enough. If you have any other reasons to be suspicious of me, please put them forward and I'll try to prove my innocence.
It didn't seem fair to jettison Smudge over his faux pas but he seems to have decided not to return.
Under the circumstances, could you not reveal Smudge's role? I'd hate the town to lose just because a moron can't post.
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 23:33
I agree with Fick. Considering Smudger won't be here today, presumably, I think it's only fair that his role is revealed and he's taken out of the game.
Fair point. Smudger has been removed from the game. Smudger was a standard Texan role.
Ali_BWFC
28-04-2011, 23:36
No it isn't.
But I would like Ali, Bammers and Dundon's to get here and start talking.
I'm here! Have no fear!
I am a Texan. I have the bodyguard ability, which I haven't used yet, so there's genuinely no point in attacking me.
I think it's Papa. Anyone else?
I've suspected Papa for a while.
Word from above:
As its the last day I'll let the Town lynch TWO players.
One Texan player is invincible and cannot be killed but he also cannot vote.
The bandit role permits one kill at anytime during the game day or night.
Good stuff.
Can I ask what everyone thinks of Billy? He seems to be over confident and I think he's hiding something. He's tried to take credit for 2 lynches that had nothing to do with him (Phats and Bish), unless he was the one posting the posters.
EDIT: RIP Smudge. We....errrr... really missed you, like ;)
Fair point. Smudger has been removed from the game. Smudger was a standard Texan role.
Well done sir and thank you.
I've suspected Papa for a while.
Did you not read Papa's post?
Can I ask what everyone thinks of Billy?
I have absolutely no suspicion where Bill is concerned, in the same was I have none of you.
As for the suspicion of me, well, all I can say really is that I'm a regular Texan. The only thing levelled at me so far is that I'm not one of the ones you've investigated, so I'm, understandably, under suspicion, which I think is fair enough. If you have any other reasons to be suspicious of me, please put them forward and I'll try to prove my innocence.
Not particularly. It's just that I haven't investigated you really. My money is very much on Dundon's.
Fair point. Smudger has been removed from the game. Smudger was a standard Texan role.
Hallelujah!
Can I ask what everyone thinks of Billy? He seems to be over confident and I think he's hiding something. He's tried to take credit for 2 lynches that had nothing to do with him (Phats and Bish), unless he was the one posting the posters.
Billy's a Texan.
Did you not read Papa's post?
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Ali_BWFC
28-04-2011, 23:45
Well done sir and thank you.
Did you not read Papa's post?
I have absolutely no suspicion where Bill is concerned, in the same was I have none of you.
Hmmm, he says he's Alan Pinkerton..... doesn't mean he is. I still can't rule him out at the moment.
The thing with Billy is that he has slipped completely under the radar thus far. I have been the only one who has really suspected him. Having said that, I was completely wrong about Dale. I don't think I've played a particularly good game, even though I did spot Phats..... but that's the only one. I have no real idea who the last person is, so I have to put my faith with the rest of the town, and hope you guys can come up with a suitable candidate.
Bammers05
28-04-2011, 23:45
Right, thanks Sminky. Seeing as I believe what Papa says about his role, that leaves just two possible people, who could be that third party - Ali and Dundon's. I know you guys'll put me in there as well, rightfully so, but I can't as I know I'm a Texan :tongue:
Papa, could you give us a list of who you've investigated, which night and what the result was, please, if you're allowed to.
Right, thanks Sminky. Seeing as I believe what Papa says about his role, that leaves just two possible people, who could be that third party - Ali and Dundon's. I know you guys'll put me in there as well, rightfully so, but I can't as I know I'm a Texan :tongue:
Papa, could you give us a list of who you've investigated, which night and what the result was, please, if you're allowed to.
If I'm allowed, then sure. Sminky?
Ali_BWFC
28-04-2011, 23:49
Who has been placing the wanted posters? Has that been mentioned yet?
Who has been placing the wanted posters? Has that been mentioned yet?
Yeah, that was me. I mentioned it in my post when I revealed my role. I was only allowed to do it twice in the game, after an investigation revealed a bandit.
muscularmatt
28-04-2011, 23:51
Papa, I put it to you that you are lying and that you are indeed some dirty stinky piss haired wetback scumbag.
If I'm allowed, then sure. Sminky?
Yup. Go ahead.
Papa, I put it to you that you are lying and that you are indeed some dirty stinky piss haired wetback scumbag.
I'm very happy to answer any questions you have.
Papa, I put it to you that you are lying and that you are indeed some dirty stinky piss haired wetback scumbag.
He is a lying, dirty, stinky, piss haired, wetback scumbag, but also Allan Pinkerton.
I can confirm this as a recruit.
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