Rangers

[50!]

A bit raging now. Got an e-mail from Rangers and found out the only days and times you can collect the tickets are:

Saturday 10 May - 9.30am to 11.30am and 2.00pm to 4.00pm

Sunday 11 May - 10.00am to 4.00pm

Monday 12 May - 10.00am to 4.00pm

I usually start work at 7.00am or 8.00am and don't finish till 4.00pm or 5.00pm. I was told you could collect them on Friday which I don't start work till 1.00pm. Looks like I need to find someone responisble to go and get the tickets. :(

You not going to the game on Saturday mate?

[Clyde Frog]

You could just go and get them yourself. I think losing a few pounds over getting once in a lifetime free tickets is worth it.

Aye but I'm likely to get sacked this time. :unsure: But if it's the only option then I'll have to.

I'll rearrange my schedule and pick them up for you since I'm such a nice guy. :ninja:

Cheers buddy. You always seemed like a nice guy. :innocent:

You not going to the game on Saturday mate?

Nope. Recently I have been missing a few games. Was working during the last Old Firm and working late for Fiorentina.

EDIT:

50, are you trying to buy tickets off Sports-Index under the name Dippy?

[50!]

50, are you trying to buy tickets off Sports-Index under the name Dippy?

That would be me, yes.

[Clyde Frog]

I take it you were unsuccessful?

[50!]

I take it you were unsuccessful?

So far aye. Most people on there are rip off merchants. I'm pretty much resigned to not getting one anyway but someone on FF was saying that they're going down in price. :mellow:

[Clyde Frog]

Both my dad and I received our letters today confirming that we will receive tickets for the game. Even though the guy told us over the phone, I was still getting a bit paranoid that maybe he read it wrong or something so the letters are a bit of a relief for me.

[McGregor]

Leaving tonight at roughly half twelve.

Cannot wait.

[50!]

Leaving tonight at roughly half twelve.

Cannot wait.

:crymore:

I wish I could leave then, I have an exam tommorow and have to leave at 11. We're just about going to get there in time. How much I'd love to get the whole day tommorow to soak up the atmosphere.

[Dan]

Best of luck, lads. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7624/salutekc5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[Joel]

Unlucky guys.

[vanNistelrooy]

That was like watching a Russian Arsenal.

Unlucky.

[Keyser Soze]

Unlucky lads. It was a solid performance, just wasn't meant to be.

Cuellar's defending might be excellent like, but his distribution is fucking poor. He gets away with it in the SPL but I couldn't see him succeeding at a team which like to get the ball down and play - in a tougher league (no offence). That sounds like I'm fishing here but just genuinely my opinion.

That Arshavin is a quality little player man.

[wrigh2uk]

Unlucky was routing for you lot all along

[Adammce05]

Oh, look at that, riots already.
Typical, dont call yous the animals for nothing eh ?.


Yous played alright man, best yous have played besides Lyon away I'd say. But Zenit are a quality side, any team that can demolish a team like Bayern deserve to have a say in this cup to be honest. Credit to them.

Arshavin was immense.

[dotty_84]

To be honest this was bound to happen unfortunately this was a huge match for us so all these loyalist glory hunting cunts would travel down and cause utter shit.

And to Soze, Cuellar does have better passing ability than that which he displayed, passing might not be amazing but he reads the game like a book, I don't want to see him leave Rangers but it'd be a sin if he left for a team outside the top four.

If there was a team to get beaten by it would be Dick Advocaats Zenit.

They were a class team and no doubt Arse Shavin will be picked up this summer after euro 2008

Congrats to Zenit.

[Jonny2J]

Oh, look at that, riots already.
Typical, dont call yous the animals for nothing eh ?.Because Celtic fans don't ever cause any bother though eh?

[Charlie: 9]

The stabbing of a Zenit fan and the CCTV footage of the Rangers fans knocking a cop down and kickin the shite out of him, is just sickening. Its a shame that every club has their bad apples as those incidents from last night ruined the occasion and the reputation of the clubs loyal and well behaved fans.

On the pitch, I thought that you would take what Zenit had and then do the damage like in previous rounds but it wasnt to be. You got that far, had a go and thats what you could only ask of the team.

Unlucky.

[Clyde Frog]

That's me back from Manchester. :(

First of all, the riots began because of the Piccadilly Gardens fanzone screen failed to show the game. Thousands travelled down to watch the game on the big screens so yeah, people were pissed off. The riot police weren't completely innocent. Unprovoked attacks on Rangers fans. A Rangers fan received a serious cut to the head because of the riot police.

The Zenit fan getting stabbed however I won't defend, that was completely out of order.

The atmosphere before the game was tremendous. Rangers fans everywhere their was hardly any trouble then although I seen none at all.

The end result, well Zenit deserved it. Even when they scored, putting on Boyd and Novo with only a 3 defence we still could barely get a chance although Novo missed a sitter. Still, I couldn't believe he was benched for this game. I was shouting for him to come on before the first goal.

Fairplay to Zenit, the played brilliant and had some great chances to score before the first and I'm proud of the team for getting that far. Zenit are an upcoming team and I knew they would be a difficult side to face. Some people said that they were the easiest team Rangers could have got in the quarter-finals which I was glad we never as they proved a lot of people wrong in the last 2 round.

To add to my heartbreak of losing the final, I have now been hit by the flu pretty bad. :(

[carson1912]

To be honest this was bound to happen unfortunately this was a huge match for us so all these loyalist glory hunting cunts would travel down and cause utter shit.


Your a fucking idiot. So just because your a loyaist you only go to football for a riot? If you think only a minority of Rangers fans are loalists you are deluded. What caused the trouble was the police deciding not to show the games on the big screens.

Apparentley most people that were arrested were English. Alot of Chelsea, Millwall etc hooligans were about aswell.

[Keyser Soze]

Your a fucking idiot. So just because your a loyaist you only go to football for a riot? If you think only a minority of Rangers fans are loalists you are deluded. What caused the trouble was the police deciding not to show the games on the big screens.

Apparentley most people that were arrested were English. Alot of Chelsea, Millwall etc hooligans were about aswell.
You say it like it excuses the fact that your lads were completely out of order.

[Adammce05]

Because Celtic fans don't ever cause any bother though eh?

Find me footage of Celtic fans doing anything close to what they do.
They have a bloody record of it, they have trouble going anywhere with atleast a few causing a war.

I know I keep going back to this, but we did win a fair play award for 80,000 of us going to Seville, thats good going for an Old Firm team.

[Sully]

Why does he need video evidence if he's seen it with his own eyes?

[50!]

I know I keep going back to this, but we did win a fair play award for 80,000 of us going to Seville, thats good going for an Old Firm team.

Thanks for that, didn't know that one. The sad oneupmanship from Celtic fans is pathetic, why must you compare Seville and Manchester?

Lest we forget Celtic fans rioting in Blackburn and Vigo on the way to Seville and the plane that had to make an emergency landing in Wales. Or has that been airbrushed in history along with the people who throw coins at Parkhead? Hugh Dallas, Fernando Ricksen and the Rangers doctor all hit with coins and not one fan found and banned.

I certainly hope Rangers find all the cunts responsible on Wednesday and make sure they never come near Ibrox again.

[Adammce05]

I havent said we dont have our bad apples, cause we do.
But yous seem to have quite a few more.

[dotty_84]

Bad apples? there is just as much equally I've seen alot of CCTV footage and the attack on that Police officer about 3 of them had Rangers tops on the rest to me seemed like normal people, they could have been from Manc or Casuals from any other club causing shit. Celtic has this 'Holier Than Thou' approach to everything. Atleast us Rangers fans admit we caused some trouble and we'll admit we're disgusted by it, Celtic would defend with all there might about their club doing no wrong. Seville and Manchester are two completely different places so that's a diabolical comparison.

Rangers Football Club are cooperating with Manchester Police Force to try and find some of the culprits but atleast we're trying to help like 50! said Celtic never find and punish Coin throwers and other trouble makers.

42 arrests, 1 charged. People acted like animals and the stabbing was a disgrace but! Terrible man handling by Police badly organised cramming all those people in small areas, and a faulty screen. I'd like to see Celtic fans in those shoes.

Oh and i held my hands up at the start but the more arrogance i've seen to this by other supporters, i've been inclined to try and help my club in this situation.

[Clyde Frog]

Some people have been already banned from football grounds from last night.

Manchester left preparations for the final too late despite the warnings of a massive support heading their way. The atmosphere before the game was immense. :D

[Charlie: 9]

Some people have been already banned from football grounds from last night.

Manchester left preparations for the final too late despite the warnings of a massive support heading their way. The atmosphere before the game was immense. :D

Aye, I read in the paper today that there was, I think, three men banned from football grounds. Or was there more, Daz?

Whats done is done an Rangers will find these so called fans, some of them anyway, and deal with them properly. They are afterall working with the police in Manchester. I say we just drop it and move on to the final week of the SPL.

My nerves are wrecked and I wont be able to settle till Thursday. How do you think you will do tomorrow against Motherwell, lads?

[dotty_84]

Personally It'll be really hard but if we go attacking like we did Dundee Utd then i think we'll get the points, let's hope Bob Malcolm is playing ;p

[50!]

We'll be tired and having a shit schedule doesn't help at all. I think we'll go 4-5-1 and try and grind out a result a bit like we did against Hibs a few weeks ago. Only good thing is Motherwell aren't going to be going for it 100% as they already have 3rd secured. Big matter is if we can score, we didn't against Hibs and took ages aginst Motherwell at home. Set pieces will be the obvious answer as Motherwell look vulnderable from them. Can't see us getting any 50/50's from the ref after last week. If we get the 3 points, I'll be absolutely delighted and we'll have taken a huge step towards the title. Drop points and we'll be hitting self destruct and heading for an epic fail. Can't say I'm looking forward to it.

[50!]

Well done SPL, Sporting Integrity wins. :rolleyes:

[dotty_84]

Usually i say best team always wins the SPL as long as there hasn't been biased decisions to one side throughout the season, and the schedule gets messed up.

It's a hollow win for Celtic, not too fussed though this gives us more drive for next season.

I'd love us to get Klasnic though

[dotty_84]

Also I love the fact Motherwell done the huddle but if it were Rangers we'd get hung up to dry for it.

[Jonny2J]

Find me footage of Celtic fans doing anything close to what they do.
They have a bloody record of it, they have trouble going anywhere with atleast a few causing a war.

I know I keep going back to this, but we did win a fair play award for 80,000 of us going to Seville, thats good going for an Old Firm team.I give you Newcastle versus Celtic in July of last year. Fucking scumbags. As Sully said I've witnessed it with my own eyes, as have many others.

[Akineye]

Find me footage of Celtic fans doing anything close to what they do.
They have a bloody record of it, they have trouble going anywhere with atleast a few causing a war.

I know I keep going back to this, but we did win a fair play award for 80,000 of us going to Seville, thats good going for an Old Firm team.

Manchester United vs Celtic last season. Great night but a very hostile atmosphere after most of the south stand lads didn't have the nerve to tell Celtic away fans to behave. A lot of them carried on the same way after the game and ended up paying the price. Same happened to Celtic fans in alot of the pubs by all accounts.

[carson1912]

You say it like it excuses the fact that your lads were completely out of order.



Only 6 people arrested were from Glasgow apparantley.


There was alot of idiots there aswell who attach themselves to Rangers. I wont say there Rangers supporters, because there not.. there just scumbags.


To say our lot were out of order makes it seem that the whole 100 thousand+ travelling support was rioting where in reality it was only about 50 people!

[carson1912]

Find me footage of Celtic fans doing anything close to what they do.




Thats because Celtic always run so they didnt have time to get the camera's out :D , everyone knows that. Queen of the south chased the CSC down London Road for fuck sake. :D

There is footage of Celtic fans singing IRA songs in Manchester and you sang Ohh Ahh up the RA the day Manchester was blown up.


I would say thats a bit worse than some English hooligans causin a bit of trouble.

[50!]

Thats because Celtic always run so they didnt have time to get the camera's out :D , everyone knows that. Queen of the south chased the CSC down London Road for fuck sake. :D

There is footage of Celtic fans singing IRA songs in Manchester and you sang Ohh Ahh up the RA the day Manchester was blown up.


I would say thats a bit worse than some English hooligans causin a bit of trouble.

Wouldn't say a bit of trouble because the pictures are there for themselves and they are pretty shocking. However I know a guy that has a lot of footage of cops beating up innocent fans but hes giving it to Rangers first, sad thing is the media won't give a shite by the time it comes out.

With Celtic spouting the IRA bile in Manchester, it could be very emotionally damaging because they were doing it outside buildings which the IRA bombed and killed people in which I found highly insensitive and immoral.

[Charlie: 9]

Find me footage of Celtic fans doing anything close to what they do.
They have a bloody record of it, they have trouble going anywhere with atleast a few causing a war.

I know I keep going back to this, but we did win a fair play award for 80,000 of us going to Seville, thats good going for an Old Firm team.

Adam, the man has seen it all in the flesh and he is right, we have a ton of scumbags.

I would love to know what the Motherwell keeper was doing for the Dailly goal, if he had of stayed on his line he wouldve saved it quite easily. Were any of you at the game?

[Keyser Soze]

Only 6 people arrested were from Glasgow apparantley.


There was alot of idiots there aswell who attach themselves to Rangers. I wont say there Rangers supporters, because there not.. there just scumbags.


To say our lot were out of order makes it seem that the whole 100 thousand+ travelling support was rioting where in reality it was only about 50 people!
No-one has said it was 100,000 rioting, but it clearly was more than 50 people. :rolleyes:

[50!]

By Graham McKendry and Kerry Harvey

WEDNESDAY’S horrific night of UEFA Cup violence was fuelled by rent-a-mobs from across England, it was claimed last night.

Crafty football casuals from clubs including Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United secretly donned Gers colours to deliberately hijack the event and wreak havoc.

And we can reveal police chiefs fear they got their preparations totally wrong — and have admitted their plan to accommodate travelling fans was woefully inadequate.

A senior police officer from Greater Manchester Police confessed: “It was a free-for-all. Hooligan elements from all over the country were there — and our plan wasn’t up to it.”



Today we can reveal that hooligan firms from all over England flocked to Manchester for the game — many of them known to cops and subject to football banning orders.

However, these measures could do NOTHING to stop the yobs travelling to the city for the clash. Troublemakers from Leicester City, Birmingham City, Oxford United, Millwall, Stockport County, Sheffield Wednesday and Chelsea were all involved in the rioting.

Hooligans attached to both Manchester sides — City and United — also helped trash their own city while battling cops AND Gers fans.

A member of the notorious Border City Firm — linked to Carlisle United — said fans’ internet message boards had been buzzing ahead of Wednesday’s final, and that the shameful ruck had been well planned.

He revealed: “That’s why people were seeing Rangers fans fighting Rangers fans. People from other clubs simply paid £25 for a Rangers top so they could blend in. It’s not rocket science.”

Our police source also admitted that chiefs “blundered badly” in their handling of the riot.

The highly-placed city desk officer — who has over 20 years’ experience under his belt — said: “It was a total balls-up. The plan encompassed a smaller number of fans from two foreign teams getting through.

“Every time Rangers survived another round you could see people looking at each other and thinking, ‘Surely they won’t make the final?’ When they beat Fiorentina things started to go into freefall.

“The first thought was to effectively shut up shop — to try to control the situation by saying, ‘Don’t come if you don’t have a ticket’.

“But it quickly became apparent, through talks with Rangers and what we were hearing in the media, that lots of fans were coming regardless.

“The figure 100,000 we should have been able to cope with. But on the day, there was double that number. Any large-scale gathering of people like that brings with it unique problems.

“Hooligans easily ride on the coat-tails of large gatherings like this and it could be that a large degree of the trouble was caused by a violent element with NO ties to Rangers whatsoever.”

Club boss David Murray has vowed to ban for LIFE any Gers fan convicted of rioting.
Ibrox officials are scanning the names of those appearing at court on rioting charges for season ticket holders.

But notorious former hooligan Jason Marriner reckons cops were woefully under-prepared. And the ex-Chelsea Headhunter member, who was handed a six-year sentence in 2000 for planning a pre-match punch-up, insists officers were too heavy-handed.

Marriner, 40, who was in Manchester to watch the game on TV with pals, blasted: “The police have to take a lot of the blame for what happened. They had no idea of the numbers involved and got it all wrong.”

Trouble flared when the giant screen in the Piccadilly Gardens fanzone failed just before kick-off, and riot police were sent in.

Marriner added: “Is it any wonder that when the screen broke down people were upset?

“There were fans there who had spent hundreds of pounds to get to Manchester only to be told they were not going to see the game. The police should have seen the problem for what it was and dealt with it.

“Getting the batons out and charging was not the thing to do.”

Our Manchester police source, who’s helped at countless local derbies and powderkeg Manchester United v Liverpool clashes, agrees some officers may have been heavy-handed in their policing of the event.

He said: “As the day went on, people who’d been drinking a lot became more rowdy. Public order was a problem. But that wasn’t helped by a number of factors. At Piccadilly, for instance, there weren’t enough loos. That created a problem with people having to urinate within the confines of the fans’ area.

“People — women in particular — were rightly annoyed by that.

“Anecdotally I’ve heard the sight of officers in their full body armour seemed to exacerbate an already hostile atmosphere. That can be the case. The sight of officers in their gear maybe does send out the wrong message. To some people it says, ‘We’re here for a fight’.”



After the first glass bottle was thrown, the city centre quickly descended into chaos. Our source says officers worked to a regimented plan — to take control of the streets and disperse the large number of fans.

“Officers are well trained for it,” he said. “But training is very different from reality.

“With the adrenaline pumping it’s very easy for the officers to be accused of over-zealous policing. And I think that was the case on Wednesday.

“The powers-that-be are aware of their shortcomings. But they’re not all the fault of the police. Manchester City Council has to bear some of the blame too.

“We’ve certainly gone on a public relations blitz to try and get our side across. And that’s fair — because hooliganism can never be tolerated.

“But there’s a lot of lessons we need to learn from this episode too. I think we sent out too many mixed messages and ultimately got it wrong. Our plan wasn’t up to it.”



Footie boffin Bert Moorhouse, of Glasgow University’s sociology department, also believes the organisation was poor.

The expert on soccer science said: “It seems to me that they did virtually nothing before the game on Wednesday and left fans to their own devices.

“Add that to the fact that Piccadilly Gardens was a bad location to keep the fans, and it’s easy to see how it turned out the way it did.

“Why not use Old Trafford? It has a 75,000 capacity — surely they could have had a screen in there and managed it better.

“Anyone who knows anything about Scottish football knew that Rangers were going to go down there with 100,000-plus fans.

“And there are probably enough Rangers fans in England to fill up Manchester. I just never got the impression the authorities were properly prepared.

“And if people are allowed to sit around, fill themselves up with booze and then the screens don’t work, there are going to be people who are annoyed.”



WE SAY: PEOPLE have tried to blame the shocking violence that marred the aftermath of Rangers’ UEFA Cup Final clash on any number of factors.

A broken big screen, heavy-handed police, poor organisation...all have been cited as contributory reasons.

But let’s not kid ourselves — the main reason for the appalling scenes was booze.

The louts who clashed with police were tanked up after day-long sessions. And their binge drinking was positively encouraged, with supermarkets selling beer at 6am and pubs offering cut-price deals.

Drink is one of the biggest killers in Scotland. But it doesn’t only affect the individual. Entire communities suffer because of our national love affair with the bottle.

Wednesday night was proof of that. And proof, too, that we MUST change our ways. How can we tell our children that drunken violence is wrong if we do nothing about the booze culture that breeds it?

Interesting. Theres more and more of these stories coming out about English casuals being there and over zealous policing. The more paranoid among us would be inclined to say that Rangers are being royally stitched up. However I still think that even if this were true Rangers fans were too happy to tag along and join in and are in no way blame free. I do think that the police were very good at spinning their side of the story with the press constantly showing the policeman being battered video and not really using many of the other clips available which are equally shocking but comprimise them.

[Definitely Maybe]

Interesting. Theres more and more of these stories coming out about English casuals being there and over zealous policing. The more paranoid among us would be inclined to say that Rangers are being royally stitched up. However I still think that even if this were true Rangers fans were too happy to tag along and join in and are in no way blame free. I do think that the police were very good at spinning their side of the story with the press constantly showing the policeman being battered video and not really using many of the other clips available which are equally shocking but comprimise them.

Overzealous policing - certainly. Football supporters are treat like shit by the police, who deliberately antagonise then wield in all guns blazing. I've seen (and experienced it) first hand.

I certainly agree with you about the police spin, they're very good at that. To be fair Greater Manchester are one of the better police forces, but still.

But the rest? I have no doubt that it happened, but on a minuscule scale. Seems to be passing the buck and a bit of a fantasy story.

[Jonny2J]

3-0 win this evening means the title is now down to the wire. I certainly want you lot to take it though, everyone on here knows my reasons why so I won't bother repeating them.

[50!]

3-0 win this evening means the title is now down to the wire. I certainly want you lot to take it though, everyone on here knows my reasons why so I won't bother repeating them.

Sorry mate, I honestly can't see it happening. For us to win in our own hands, we would have to outscore Celtic by 4 on the night. However, our team looked very fucked tonight and we just don't score that many goals so we would mostly likely need them to drop points. We're playing Aberdeen who honestly think that they hate us more than Celtic do. Celtic are playing Dundee Utd who think we pay off all referees and have said they'll be resting players.

We would need another "Helicopter Sunday" which incidentally was on the 22nd of May last time too but I doubt we have that much luck. We could have scored a few more tonight if we had actually played the ball on the deck instead of this nonsense long ball stuff which will never work in the SPL. :(

[Jonny2J]

Sorry mate, I honestly can't see it happening. For us to win in our own hands, we would have to outscore Celtic by 4 on the night. However, our team looked very fucked tonight and we just don't score that many goals so we would mostly likely need them to drop points. We're playing Aberdeen who honestly think that they hate us more than Celtic do. Celtic are playing Dundee Utd who think we pay off all referees and have said they'll be resting players.Aye I've got family who are Aberdeen season ticket holders, my uncle who by his own right got up to a a few fairly naughty things in the 80's, aye they certainly do hate you lot, obviously I grew up on that, but I just really hate Celtic after said incident.

[Charlie: 9]

I thought you wouldve scored more than three last night to be honest, but I suppose it doesnt matter. You need four to catch us and we need to win so if we score one you need five and so one.

However, Im not too confident about going to Tannadice but I can only cross my fingers and wish for the best.

Best of luck.

[50!]

However, Im not too confident about going to Tannadice but I can only cross my fingers and wish for the best.

Best of luck.

Not lost in 10 years and Dundee Utd have lodged an official complaint against us today, we bottled it plain and simple.

[Miggy]

You've pretty much blown it haven't you?

[dotty_84]

Hoping Craig Levein has the same mentality Terry Butcher had when he managed Motherwell against Celtic last day, when The Well won 2-1.
You don't want a team to win the league at your ground when your in the changing room and they're all celebrating. Then again he could be really fucking pissed off about missing out on the UEFA cup and be a right cunt.

Haha.

[dotty_84]

Christ I'm just back, that was brutal!

Nice seeing Beasley back though.

Roll on Summer let's get some nice players under the wing.

Anyone watch Setanta Sports News, those dumb mickey cunts and their txts. Un-fucking-real!

[50!]

Beasley was good.

McCulloch and Ferguson were woeful.

I think we were about 3 games away from greatness but we ran out of steam. :(

Worst thing is, we'll be playing football in July again because we never won the league. Thankfully, I don't think we have anyone playing in Euro2008 so the lads should get a decent enough rest.

[dotty_84]

I was thinking that too I was hoping he'd take off either one of them for Davis and I was hoping at half time when we were 2-0 up that maybe 20 minutes to go wee Fleck could get punted on.

Most of the squad should have recovered from injuries apart from Naisy.

New faces will be nice, i have faith in Walter bringing in some quality players as he has done in the past.

We're screaming for a playmaker though.

I hope Newcastle won't do a swap deal with Alan Smith for Cuellar or Cueller plus a few quid.

Ideally though we need. Left and Right sidebacks, Playmaking attacking midfielder and a striker.

Sebo is gone, Buffel back to Feyenoord is likely and I can't see why Smith would want to keep Crazy Cousin.

[50!]

McGregor should be back next season and Alexander is a good backup to have. We have to keep Cuellar. I doubt Weir will be able to manage another full season, we should keep him for backup next season and find a long term partner, I liked that lad Morris at Panathinikos who was very solid. Whittaker, Broadfoot, Smith and Papac will have to do for full back next season, hopefully two out of the four can be consistent enough to hold down a place.

I think Hemdani is off, I doubt Dailly, Davis or Faye will stay. That only leaves Ferguson who I personally think is past it and Thomson with Adam and Furman in reserve. We probably need to strengthen there and I agree that a playmaker was missing from our team this season because Buffel should be off even though he never got a chance. We definitely need to get some fast, pacy wide players. Beasley looked very good today, hope to see more of him next season. I'd keep Adam and Novo as SPL backup. I'd like to see McCulloch and Burke gone but they'll most likely stay. Can't see Gow sticking around either. Obviously hope to see more of Fleck and Efrem.

As for strikers, it depends if we're playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 next season. With Naisy out, I'd sell Cousin and maybe JCD. Keep Boyd either way. Definitely add at least one quality striker.

[AgentZero]

kris boyds first goal was a cracker!

[dotty_84]

Lol looking at your post 50! I've forgot to mention a fair few players.

Weir has asked to get another year extension which I can see him getting, he won't play every game I agree but I'd like to see Papac maybe getting a shot at his preferred position. I can see us having cover for a right back but struggling for a natural left footed, left sided, sideback Smith seems to get niggles a lot.

If Rangers sell Cuellar then it's a the worst mistake they could do.

Hemdani out yes I'd agree bit too slow on the ball and Indecisive and I don't think he does his job well enough.

Dailly and Faye won't be staying but Davis Is a definate.

I'd keep McCulloch for backup, get rid of Burke who Is always injured.
Keep Novo as he plays for the club and gives it his all, although he's like a pitbull with a ball most of the time.

Sell Cousin, keep JCD and Boyd.

And I wish they'd give fucking Buffel and Gow a run If Charlie Adam gets a game how the hell can't Buffel or Gow, unreal.

I wish Fiorentina played pish this year and didn't qualify for Champions League, Gamberini looked amazing against us.

Klasnic said, he'd like to play for one of the big two in Scotland and he's out of contract. More likely Celtic will sign him as they always seem to go after who we are after.

[dotty_84]

kris boyds first goal was a cracker!

Yeah I was surprised we'd scored from a freekick hence why we need someone like a playmaker and a good setplay player.

[Charlie: 9]

If somehow you signed Davis fully, that would be excellent. He is class.

[Clyde Frog]

Whittaker, Broadfoot, Smith and Papac will have to do for full back next season, hopefully two out of the four can be consistent enough to hold down a place.

I would love to see Smith back. If he can find his form prior to his injury then I would have him at left back. It is the right back that sort of worries may. Whittaker is good there although I think we could get better but my main worry is Broadfoot in that position who seems to mostly have the edge over Whittaker when it comes to getting a starting place there.

I think Hemdani is off, I doubt Dailly, Davis or Faye will stay. That only leaves Ferguson who I personally think is past it and Thomson with Adam and Furman in reserve. We probably need to strengthen there and I agree that a playmaker was missing from our team this season because Buffel should be off even though he never got a chance. We definitely need to get some fast, pacy wide players. Beasley looked very good today, hope to see more of him next season. I'd keep Adam and Novo as SPL backup. I'd like to see McCulloch and Burke gone but they'll most likely stay. Can't see Gow sticking around either. Obviously hope to see more of Fleck and Efrem.

Hemdani will probably be off. Dailly may remain since he can play many positions. Would like to see Davis stay but don't think he will. As for Faye, well I don't give a fuck about him. Ferguson certainly isn't the same player as he was before he left for Blackburn but he will no doubt be a first team player next season. Would like to see Furman in a lot more action next year, hopefully the guy progresses as he is already looking like a decent player. I feel sorry for Gow as the few games that he has played this season (including friendlies) he has put in a good shift yet he will be dropped to favour someone like Charlie Adam or Amdy Faye. I certainly won't blame him if he leaves. I already mentioned about hoping to see more of Dean Furman and I would also like to see John Fleck and Steven Lennon as well. Haven't seen anything on Giorgios Efrem but from what others have been saying then would like to see more of him as well.

As for strikers, it depends if we're playing 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 next season. With Naisy out, I'd sell Cousin and maybe JCD. Keep Boyd either way. Definitely add at least one quality striker.

I'm hoping that we go 4-4-2 next season. Definitely get rid of Cousin. Wouldn't mind Darcheville staying but if he goes then so be it. Would love to us to sign Ivan Klasnic to partner Boyd up front.

[dotty_84]

I think we will get Davis and I think Cousin will stay unfortunately his bird is up the duff and she loves the country (dunno why) so unless premiership side go for him which is unlikely I think he is staying put.

What's this Kenny Miller business he can fuck off and it's nothing to do with him going to Celtic it's just he's baws sure he'll run around like headless chicken and fight back for the ball but when it comes to goal scoring he's like Novo he hits one out of 15.

Smith has a list of targets and Ally is heading over to Euro 08 for scouting so I'm hoping we get a few nice names brought over :)

Loving this false hope from Celtic fans thinking they'll get 4 in a row haha!

[dotty_84]

Apparently we're linked with Berthod and Calve?

Heard of Berthod used to have him in my team on pes06
Never heard of Calve though?


I've also heard we're after Maloney lol this can't be true but if it is. Then we're fucked because it'll semm utter shit cunt Miller will be back, fuck sake!

[50!]

So much for the Old Firm being one of the biggest rivalries in the world.

What a shit day. :crymore: :no: :angry: :realmad:

[Keyser Soze]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's happened?

[nath_scfc]

Kenny Miller signed for them. :laugh: So relieved, after the rumours, it's not us he's signed for!

[50!]

Kenny Miller signed for them. :laugh: So relieved, after the rumours, it's not us he's signed for!

Its not funny, I hope you lot buy McCulloch and then you'll see.

[dotty_84]

I was pissed off at this at the start but i can't be arse with it anymore the main thing that gets to me it "Quality over quantity" quote from Smith which seems like utter shite!

Velicka, Miller... No not quality.

Miller is the Scottish Novo he'll run his balls off but he misses far far too many chances. Boydy must be fucking reelin'

Although we seem set to buy Purovic! fuck yes!!

Unless those fucking Celtic cunts come in for him.

[Adammce05]

Lol enjoy his 4 goals.

[dotty_84]

Harold Brattbak

[AgentZero]

on a sidenote i missed out on the classy diadora away kit (think diagonal sash) pretty cut as it was a last minute bidder and it was a long sleevy...wasn't any of you lot was it?!

[dotty_84]

Aye it was me!

I'm getting D. Finley Q.C on the back of it :p

[50!]

on a sidenote i missed out on the classy diadora away kit (think diagonal sash) pretty cut as it was a last minute bidder and it was a long sleevy...wasn't any of you lot was it?!

I really liked that kit, along with the Orange one they're the only two away tops I've ever bought.

[McGregor]

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/4244/05369263900rz9.jpg

How our club has fallen. Irrespective of playing ability (He's shite might I add), I cannot believe a player is crossing the divide after having already done so previously. He couldn't hack it at Rangers first time around nor could he cut the mustard at Celtic. Yet we are willing to take him back on board for two million pounds and approx 25 grand per week.

Baffling to say the least. Although it does highlight the ambition of David Murray and the extent to which his interest in the club has dwindled since the turn of the 21st century.

[Keyser Soze]

It's sad when you remember the Old Firm sides of the 90's, the amount of top quality players that can roll off your tongue in them days, where-as now... :/

[AgentZero]

It's sad when you remember the Old Firm sides of the 90's, the amount of top quality players that can roll off your tongue in them days, where-as now... :/
quoted in agreement.

[McGregor]

It's sad when you remember the Old Firm sides of the 90's, the amount of top quality players that can roll off your tongue in them days, where-as now... :/
It's even more dreadful shelling out your hard earned cash going to watch the current crop of players when you are fully aware that throughout the nineties you had the likes of Brian Laudrup terrifying defences any time he was near the ball.

Hell we've gone from having players like Giovanni Van Bronckhorst, Michael Mols, Andrei Kantshelskis, Arthur Numan and Ronald De Boer to a team who has no real flair nor any genuine talent.

Barry Ferguson continually has to play through the pain barrier and that is having an adverse effect on his overall performance. This past season he has looked off the pace and is clearly on the slide.

Alan Hutton showed genuine ability and we all know how that ended up. He was ushered out the doors asap and packed off to London. No doubt Alan McGregor and Carlos Cuéllar will soon follow. Perhaps even Thomson.

There are a variety of reasons why Rangers are sinking quicker than the titanic. I acknowledge the fact that the English Premier League has expanded to the point where no other league can compete and that Celtic have gotten their act together regarding finances and marketing but the hard fact remains, David Murray has lost interest in the club.

A club of our stature should be marketed correctly and ran a hell of a lot better than presently. The scouting system is a farce and we have no real backbone.

A revamp is whats needed.

Rant over.

I'm now going to go and watch the Gazza video floating about on youtube regarding his time at Rangers to cheer me up. ;)

[AgentZero]

would one class rino gattusso amongs that list?

[50!]

It's sad when you remember the Old Firm sides of the 90's, the amount of top quality players that can roll off your tongue in them days, where-as now... :/

I'll tell you a story it happened sometime at the dawn of the millenium when Sky were considering to renew the SPL contract the currently had. At this time there was a of talk about the Old Firm joining the EPL which was much more serious than it is nowadays. Rangers and Celtic had a lot of financial muscle and could outspend and compete with High to mid level EPL clubs. Sky thought that there may be a chance the Old Firm would be allowed to move and wanted assurances from the Old Firm that they wouldn't which both agreed to. Then one night in a hotel the Celtic director now owner Dermott Desmond was found having a behind the scenes meeting with a England League director. What he was not aware of was that there was also a Sky Executive staying in the same hotel who found out what was going on, got scared and pulled the SPL's new deal. They then had to accept a cut price deal from the BBC and its never been the same again, both clubs ran up huge debts and rely on getting to the CL Group stages to break even. Meanwhile the England League grew worldwide at a massive rate over the last 6 years benefitting all the clubs while the Old Firm got left behind.

Unless some kind of European Superleague comes into place, I doubt they'll ever manage to really compete with the powerhouses of European football. Scottish football has shite attendances outwith the Old Firm and there really isn't any money to be made without selling major assets. Celtic are coping just now because Rangers are being ran into the ground by a man who simply doesn't care.There was a time after Heysel when Rangers were easily the biggest club in Britain and even stole players from Man Utd, now they struggle to compete with Championship sides for decent players. :(

[McGregor]

would one class rino gattusso amongs that list?

Not really to be honest mate. He was only here for 16 months and he was just a young lad still improving. Certainly had lots of promise but Advocaat didn't really favour him. Although playing him out of position didn't help. We had a ton of talent then it was always going to be hard for him to play regularly. Although I do believe his time in Scotland benefited his career in the long run. That no nonsense determined mentality we see now certainly originated back in Glasgow.

Has a keen affection for the club thanks to his time here though and I still live in hope his wife Monica wishes to return home sooner rather than later. ;)

[50!]

Not really to be honest mate. He was only here for 16 months and he was just a young lad still improving. Certainly had lots of promise but Advocaat didn't really favour him. Although playing him out of position didn't help. We had a ton of talent then it was always going to be hard for him to play regularly. Although I do believe his time in Scotland benefited his career in the long run. That no nonsense determined mentality we see now certainly originated back in Glasgow.

Has a keen affection for the club thanks to his time here though and I still live in hope his wife Monica wishes to return home sooner rather than later. ;)

I don't think he'll be back to be honest mate. Hes very rugged for an Italian, I don't think they have that much nowadays and thats why hes still to good there which as you said stems from his time here.

[Charlie: 9]

Must be a joke. Have you signed Kenny Misser?

[dotty_84]

I'm pretty sure Celtic nearly buggered up the NTL sponsorship deal years back didn't they want more money than Rangers...arseholes.

Nothing will ever improve in the SPL the SFA are absolute morons everyone knows how to move forward in this league but SFA just hold it back, morons don't have a clue.

Rangers were in the red due to stupid purchaces like Flo, Prodan, Rozenthal who were shite or plagued with injury.

Ranger made £30 million through UEFA cup run and transfers yet we still have no fucking money to get decent players, i could see sense in having a small budget but a better wage band but we don't Cuellar was on 12k a week this year. Klasnic showed interest but with hearing upon cuellar we'd have nae chance offering a decent wage.

Murray does need to fuck off.

[dotty_84]

Never knew about that Hotel meeting, typical Irish cunt fucks up again

[Keyser Soze]

Kyle Lafferty and Kenny Miller being the two star signings of the summer for Rangers.

http://soccernet-att.espn.go.com/design05/images/PH2/HenryG.jpg

[Yossi]

I wouldn't mind them at Norwich, but £5m for the pair? More than double what they are worth, collectively.

[dotty_84]

Agreed thing is i can see maybe the point in bringing in Lafferty he's young and Ally might be able to help coach his finishing but still steep for an unproven player.

Miller is a Scottish Novo sure he'll run his balls off for 90 minutes but he takes about 10 chances to put 1 away, Velicka isn't Rangers quality and he's 29 fuck sake.

I feel sorry for Gow, lad never got his chance now they're trying to fob him to Burnley as part exchange. It's been dissapointing and i feel for us that all our forwards have now been bought for until January...pish!

I wouldn't quite say Star Keyser got some time left.

[Keyser Soze]

My point is this is the type of calibre you're looking to bring in. Mid-table Championship quality.

[dotty_84]

Hmm I'm not sure, yes Lafferty has been playing Championship football but at 20 he's still developing, It's obvious that Walter has brought him so another forward most likely, Miller or Boyd can play off him as he might hold the ball up.

It's still hard for Rangers to attract great players for now but once we win the League this year and Strachan will be told to leave I the shoe will be on the other foot.

As much as i'm not keen on the signings i can see what he's trying to do.

MON' THE GERS!!!!

[Adammce05]

It's true man. It's terrible.

Rangers had Gio, Numan, Arveladze, Mols, Berti Bombscare(lol sorry), De Boers(albeit Frank for a short time), Lovenkrands, Flo(was a good player, just not really for yous ..), the list goes on.

Celtic had Larsson, Hartson, Sutton, Petrov, Varga, Lambert and the rest.

Now, the closest thing both clubs have Cuellar, McGregor, McGeady and McDonald.


A fall from grace indeed, if the league could get bloody improved, like it was meant to years back, then we'd both be making the last 8/4 of the CL, and be favourites for UEFA, but sadly it dosent seem that'll happen, atleast not for another while.

Gutting.

[50!]

For the £6/7m we spent on Lafferty, Miller and Velicka we could have bought a decent, well rated, young player on the continent who could play off Boyd. Maybe even a semi decent international player. Instead we waste it on a badge thumping traitor, a injury prone lump off wood and a ridiculously overpriced player with serious confidence issues. Absolutely gutted. :(

[vanNistelrooy]

Which describes which player?

Sounds like you were just talking about Miller? :erm:

[dotty_84]

Haha!

I'm still reeling that we never permanently signed Federico Nieto 3 years ago.

I liked the idea of us going for Purovic too.

[50!]

Haha!

I'm still reeling that we never permanently signed Federico Nieto 3 years ago.


He's not done anything though.

We've been linked to the likes of Kallstrom, Elmander, Gomis, Pogrebnyak and many others who have gone on to be decent players on the continent but we refuse to take the risk and pay big money for overpriced British shite.

[Dragonfly]

Of the little I've seen of Lafferty (for N. Ireland) he looks like a decent player. It'll be interesting to see him play in Europe.

[50!]

Of the little I've seen of Lafferty (for N. Ireland) he looks like a decent player. It'll be interesting to see him play in Europe.

I think you're forgetting Rangers will play 9 defenders in Europe and have either Darcheville or Miller up front in our legendary 9-0-1 formation. (c) Rangers FC, Wattynaccio 1.4 v2

[Yossi]

Lafferty's goalscoring record does not justify £3m plus a player.

[Dragonfly]

I think you're forgetting Rangers will play 9 defenders in Europe and have either Darcheville or Miller up front in our legendary 9-0-1 formation. (c) Rangers FC, Wattynaccio 1.4 v2
How could I forget.....

Lafferty's goalscoring record does not justify £3m plus a player.

....He can play on the wing too, right? I've seen him play there for N. Ireland; definitely not as the main striker, obviously. I'm guessing he's mainly been a striker for Burnely.

[Yossi]

....He can play on the wing too, right? I've seen him play there for N. Ireland; definitely not as the main striker, obviously. I'm guessing he's mainly been a striker for Burnely.
I have not seen a great deal of him, but he has never seemed skilful enough to play out wide, or quick enough for that matter.

[Dragonfly]

I remember him scoring a quality goal in the Euro qualifiers, I think against Sweden. But then again, I guess the worst of players have their moment.

[50!]

I remember him scoring a quality goal in the Euro qualifiers, I think against Sweden. But then again, I guess the worst of players have their moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOBTMM6Sanc

A bit similar to the defending for that Villa goal but if Lafferty does that every week I won't be complaining.

[dotty_84]

He's not done anything though.

We've been linked to the likes of Kallstrom, Elmander, Gomis, Pogrebnyak and many others who have gone on to be decent players on the continent but we refuse to take the risk and pay big money for overpriced British shite.

Aye but i saw him in all 3 matches when he came 3 out of 3 in a new environment i thought was class, he was tall, good in the air, quick footed and he had named as maybe a new Batistuta but as usual we never took him on due to shitty injuries nothing even that serious.

We have a terrible record for not giving players a chance it's starting to piss me off.

We never took on Hartson because of his injuries and look what happened yet we bought Flo who'd been injured more!

[Charlie: 9]

So, I take no one has seen Paddy McCourt in action?

[dotty_84]

Nope although i loved the whole we're going for Bent, Pavylechenko yet they settle there first buy being a 400k winger anything to get the gullible cunts to renew season tickets.

I'd like to see us being linked to some defenders and a creative midfielder

[Charlie: 9]

Nope although i loved the whole we're going for Bent, Pavylechenko yet they settle there first buy being a 400k winger anything to get the gullible cunts to renew season tickets.

I'd like to see us being linked to some defenders and a creative midfielder

He's (Paddy) a good player and I think he could do well IF he applies himself to training and the coaching staff gets him fit and healthy. He can be a lazy bastard.

He is a quick winger who loves to dribble, but Im not sure yet if he can make the step up from roasting teams in the Eircom and Setanta Cup for Derry to moving to Celtic where the is alot more pressure, namely against Rangers, Ibrox and in the Champions League. He was only like 200,000€ so if he doesnt work out then its not a problem.

Labelled 'the white Ronaldinho' over here, but looks like Pavel Nedved.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4108/paddybhoyvx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4108/paddybhoyvx6.0e20de04e1.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=371&i=paddybhoyvx6.jpg)

Heres a little video, not the best but Itll do for now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNacZM0hQgo

[Adammce05]

He's (Paddy) a good player and I think he could do well IF he applies himself to training and the coaching staff gets him fit and healthy. He can be a lazy bastard.

He is a quick winger who loves to dribble, but Im not sure yet if he can make the step up from roasting teams in the Eircom and Setanta Cup for Derry to moving to Celtic where the is alot more pressure, namely against Rangers, Ibrox and in the Champions League. He was only like 200,000€ so if he doesnt work out then its not a problem.

Labelled 'the white Ronaldinho' over here, but looks like Pavel Nedved.

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4108/paddybhoyvx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/4108/paddybhoyvx6.0e20de04e1.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=371&i=paddybhoyvx6.jpg)

Heres a little video, not the best but Itll do for now...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNacZM0hQgo

Exactly, for 200k we've brought in a good squad player, definitely worth having around, and like you said, if he applies himself he'll do well, definitely

[McGregor]

Only Celtic could sign a 200k unproven player and he's immediately being labeled better than their Player of the Year by some fans. (No one on here mind)

Still awaiting the arrival of a quality centre back and a gifted playmaker. Doubt either will arrive though.

[Adammce05]

A quality CB ? You have Cuellar.
To be honest, even though I detest the dirty bastard, he is a good defender.
I think the thing that holds him back from playing with someone a bit bigger is his lack of passing ability.


Lol I doubt McCourt will ever be better than McGeady, if he really tries, I reckon he could be as good but, as McGeady atm(nowhere near the finished product it seems).

[McGregor]

We need someone to partner Cuellar. Davie Weir is aging; I'd be surprised if he played most games and Andy Webster has been missing longer than Maddie McCann.

[50!]

I really want Marek Suchy as a partner for the King, I remember we missed out on Skrtel a season ago where we really should have taken the risk. Plus Suchy will be an excellent prospect for the future unlike Shittu or that other Charlton lad.

[Adammce05]

We need someone to partner Cuellar. Davie Weir is aging; I'd be surprised if he played most games and Andy Webster has been missing longer than Maddie McCann.

Zing !. On that note, what happened to Stevie Smith ?.

Man yous really do need someone, like a good player not fucking Championship players.
Same as us getting linked with every left-back with feet.

[Charlie: 9]

Only Celtic could sign a 200k unproven player and he's immediately being labeled better than their Player of the Year by some fans. (No one on here mind)

Still awaiting the arrival of a quality centre back and a gifted playmaker. Doubt either will arrive though.

Apparently, McCourt has been called into the Nrn Irn squad. He's still the same player yet, as he was with Derry. Now that he's a Celtic man they bring him into the squad.

I hope he tells them where to go and how to get there!

Another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9k0c_oI9SE

[50!]

After failing to sign Bougherra from the powerhouse that is Charlton and not being able to agree a deal for Shittu from the mighty Watford it seems our next target is Glenn Loovens of the colossus that is Cardiff.

Fuck me, its going to be a long dark season. :(

Looks like we'll be playing Mad Vlads Kaunas in the CL Q2, they won 4-1 away.

[dotty_84]

After watchin the Schalke match i'm shitting myself maybe pre-season but we desperately need 2 midfielders straight away, What the fuck is happening Smith said quality not quantity this season we've packed our strike force and defence but empty in the middle, Charlie Adam is the worse than Bob 'Dead ball specialist' Malcolm.

Velicka seems like a player who'll try his balls off hopefully a little like Prso.

[50!]

We're fucked.

[Adammce05]

Basically.

[50!]

£2.5m for mid level Championship pish when we could have easily got Naiesef Morris or even better for the same price. Fuck me, I'm getting really pissed off now.

[Adammce05]

Watty's lost his head.

An Algerian international .. steady on man.

Could end up being like 2006/07 for us this year man.

[dotty_84]

Is it me or do we have 6 defenders 2 midfielders and 6 strikers?

But play a 4-5-1 We are desperately in need of two midfielders who can find a pass for strikers.

I heard we were interested Varynyn? from PSV around £1million right now i'd snap him up we seriously need to dump Adam and McCulloch. straight away.

If by the January window we still have an injured Beasley and Burke then they should be shipped out they're never fucking injury free.


And against Kaunas why oh why start with Miller and Darchy?!?

Velicka and Miller/Darchy would be common sense and upon hearing Kaunas were actually celebrating after the match makes my heart sink, a total laughing stock.

[Miggy]

You guys were terrible yesterday. It really doesn't look promising.

[AgentZero]

all i can say is what happened?

[RB14 ARSENAL]

all i can say is what happened?

FBK Kaunas 2-1 Rangers (agg 2-1)

A header four minutes from time by Linas Pilibaitis gave Kaunas a dramatic victory over Rangers, leaving the Ibrox side out of European competition.

Kevin Thomson put Rangers ahead in the 33rd minute when he collected a Nacho Novo pass inside the box and fired past Kaunas goalkeeper Marian Kello.

But Nerijus Radzius equalised with a tremendous 30-yard free-kick just two minutes before half-time.

The killer blow for Walter Smith's side came as Rangers played for the draw.

Smith opted for just one player up front, Kenny Miller given the task of securing the vital away goal.

[ads]

Nothing short of a disaster lads.

[Jonny2J]

http://goldenpages.ie/search/Europe/Rangers.html

[ads]

:lol:

Got a text last night.

Rangers new sponsor is going to be Easy Jet, in and out of Europe in 3 hours.

[AgentZero]

:lol:

Got a text last night.

Rangers new sponsor is going to be Easy Jet, in and out of Europe in 3 hours.

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/4261/fryseewhatyoudidthereih4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Adammce05]

Lmfao at the jokes.

Credit crunch update issued as thousands of riot police around Europe are laid off following Rangers exit from all Competitions.

Walter Smith and David Murray have assured fans that the defeat was merely to stop a fixture congestion again.

Just some of the jokes going around, I'm loving it :).

[Jonny2J]

http://www.rangers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,5~1363791,00.html

DETAILS were finalised this evening with Aston Villa Football Club for the transfer of Carlos Cuellar, subject to him passing a medical tomorrow.

On Sunday morning the player and his representatives informed the Club it was their desire to invoke an exit clause for 10 million Euros and today an offer for that amount was received from Aston Villa.

An offer to extend the player's contract and to increase his salary substantially was declined as the player was adamant it was his desire to leave and play in the Premiership.

Carlos Cuellar wished to state the following: "I came to Rangers due to the professional manner of their officials and management and their promise of success. Everything I had been told about this fantastic Club has been true and last year's UEFA Cup run is something I will never forget.

"My ambition has always been to play for my national team and I believe that playing in the biggest league in the world for Aston Villa will help me realise that.

"When I told Martin Bain on Sunday that I wanted to leave, I did so with sadness. The Rangers supporters have been fantastic to me, but I am young and want to play at the highest level and I hope they will always welcome me back. I want to thank them for everything.

Manager Walter Smith, expressed his disappointment. He said: "This has come as a surprise and I am disappointed. Carlos Cuellar has been a great player for the Football Club and inevitably there has been speculation about him playing in the Premiership.

"The Club has received a substantial uplift in fee and we will now reinvest in the team."

[Miggy]

I think 50! is going to commit suicide.
Good move for Cuellar though.

[nath_scfc]

To Martin O'Neill aswell! :lol:

[Miggy]

Nail on the coffin right there for poor ol' fiddy.

[McGregor]

The club can get to fuck if they think they are getting another penny off me. Until Murray is gone I'm not going back.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

Just sums up the SPL. If the league was so good Cueller wouldnt leave.

[Charlie: 9]

Great news for me. Im very happy with this, I came on the net about five minutes ago and I literally just found out. The fee was £7m? Not bad like at least yous got a good sum of money for him.

Surely, they have someone else lined up to buy?

[vanNistelrooy]

Boumsong will return :erm:

[Adammce05]

Just sums up the SPL. If the league was so good Cueller wouldnt leave.

Hey atleast Gers are in Europe.

Oh ...


But aye, to be honest Cuellar going was probably for the best, and it was a good 7.8M which means yous will(assuming DM isn't his usual self) have money to buy Davis now at the least.

Or another few strikers.

[50!]

Murray must go.

And he can take Dailly and McCulloch with him. :realmad:

[Phil W.A.F.C]

Murray must go.

And he can take Dailly and McCulloch with him. :realmad:

We'll take him back 50! ;). Calm down a bit aswell mate. Not good for your health :lol:

[Adammce05]

He's right but.
That daft cunt is ruining them and has done for years.

Not that I don't like to see the H*ns crash and burn :P.

Btw, 50, you heard bout McCoist apparently walking out ?.

[50!]

We'll take him back 50! ;). Calm down a bit aswell mate. Not good for your health :lol:

Seriously, I'd drive McCulloch anywhere outside Glasgow if anyone takes him and I don't even have a license or a car.

He's right but.
That daft cunt is ruining them and has done for years.

Not that I don't like to see the H*ns crash and burn :P.

Btw, 50, you heard bout McCoist apparently walking out ?.

Heard it as a rumour, nothing confirmed.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

Seriously, I'd drive McCulloch anywhere outside Glasgow if anyone takes him and I don't even have a license or a car.

Get to the JJB and sort it out with Brucey then. Is he that bad seriously mate?

[Jonny2J]

Take him, please.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3182/alansmith2xl1.jpg

[50!]

Get to the JJB and sort it out with Brucey then. Is he that bad seriously mate?

He isn't a footballer.

Take him, please.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3182/alansmith2xl1.jpg

If he is willing to half his wages and for no transfer fee we might as well, we have no creativity and under Smith he might do a bit of a Gazza but I'd personally prefer we went for something safer just now.

[Jonny2J]

If he is willing to half his wages and for no transfer fee we might as well, we have no creativity and under Smith he might do a bit of a Gazza but I'd personally prefer we went for something safer just now.Creativity and Smith should not be mentioned in the same breath. :lol:

[50!]

Creativity and Smith should not be mentioned in the same breath. :lol:

Are we taking about Walter or Alan here?

[Phil W.A.F.C]

I disagree 50! he really was a good player for Wigan and would take him back anyday after all hes done for Wigan. He almost definately a footballer :erm:.

[50!]

I disagree 50! he really was a good player for Wigan and would take him back anyday after all hes done for Wigan. He almost definately a footballer :erm:.

Doesn't know how to play at centre mid, too slow to be a winger, can't cross, can't beat a man. No finishing to be a striker, can't hold the ball up, passing is poor and he isn't that good in the air. He may win headers, but they don't find teammates. May track back but always gives away stupid fouls and gets booked. Shit player, please take him.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

Doesn't know how to play at centre mid, too slow to be a winger, can't cross, can't beat a man. No finishing to be a striker, can't hold the ball up, passing is poor and he isn't that good in the air. He may win headers, but they don't find teammates. May track back but always gives away stupid fouls and gets booked. Shit player, please take him.

:shocking: are you serious? Isnt good in the air? :shocking: wow. I think you guys have been playing him in the wrong position Central Midfield. I think he has some sort of disease as he use to do all of that at Wigan minus being fast as he never really was nippy. He never gave away silly fould either. Was a top player and was sad to see him go but would welcome him back any day of the week.

[50!]

:shocking: are you serious? Isnt good in the air? :shocking: wow. I think you guys have been playing him in the wrong position Central Midfield. I think he has some sort of disease as he use to do all of that at Wigan minus being fast as he never really was nippy. He never gave away silly fould either. Was a top player and was sad to see him go but would welcome him back any day of the week.

We had him at left mid last season or up front, only centre mid this season. He isn't that good in the air because he gives away fouls when he jumps and as I said he doesn't find someone with the header. Plus playing the long ball just takes all the life out of football and when he plays, it makes the team play worse. He got injured last Christmas and we started playing a 4-3-3 with wingers and thats when we played our best football of the season. He came back and it was guff again. He then played for 180 minutes against Kaunas doing absolutely nothing, if you watched the game you would struggle to have notcied he was playing.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

We had him at left mid last season or up front, only centre mid this season. He isn't that good in the air because he gives away fouls when he jumps and as I said he doesn't find someone with the header. Plus playing the long ball just takes all the life out of football and when he plays, it makes the team play worse. He got injured last Christmas and we started playing a 4-3-3 with wingers and thats when we played our best football of the season. He came back and it was guff again. He then played for 180 minutes against Kaunas doing absolutely nothing, if you watched the game you would struggle to have notcied he was playing.

Well hes completely the differant player i seen for 6 years at Wigan. Signed him as a striker from Motherwell a long with Ste McMillan and didnt make any real impact there so Jewell started playing him as a left winger and the rest is history. I'd defo have him back though.

[50!]

We'll agree to disagree.

[Phil W.A.F.C]

We'll agree to disagree.

Fair enough. Shame to see Rangers like this though. First knocked out of the champions league by some gash team then the SPL player of the season and probably your best player leave. Thats football i guess.

[Charlie: 9]

Fair enough. Shame to see Rangers like this though. First knocked out of the champions league by some gash team then the SPL player of the season and probably your best player leave. Thats football i guess.

:erm:

[mufcsean]

Take him, please.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/3182/alansmith2xl1.jpg

When was he at Rangers?

[AgentZero]

judging by the hair...in his leeds days.

[50!]

:erm:

Voted for by the SPL and the Writers. ;)

When was he at Rangers?

He wasn't thats just a picture.

[dotty_84]

Sorry Miggy but a good move for Cuellar are you having a laugh? i don't mind Cuellar moving but fuck me to Aston Villa the only European football they'll get next year will be going through the Inter-toto cup again. Think about it Newcastle, Tottenham, Portsmouth, Everton all after the top 4 were will the be?

Carlos is a great player but this is Rangers one team doesn't make a player.

Common sense needs to be called into play

McGregor
Whitaker/Broadfoot(Although a proper RB would be good, Bougherra, Papac, Left Sideback.
Davis, Thomo/Fergie, Bresciano, Niguez.
Velicka, Boyd

they Would be my targets and how i would play my team.

Murray is a knobber but i only care about the Bears getting back to the best.

Celtic fans guaranteed will be shouting for Strachan out when the season is finished we will win the league this year.

[Keyser Soze]

Sorry Miggy but a good move for Cuellar are you having a laugh? i don't mind Cuellar moving but fuck me to Aston Villa the only European football they'll get next year will be going through the Inter-toto cup again. Think about it Newcastle, Tottenham, Portsmouth, Everton all after the top 4 were will the be?

Carlos is a great player but this is Rangers one team doesn't make a player.

Common sense needs to be called into play

McGregor
Whitaker/Broadfoot(Although a proper RB would be good, Bougherra, Papac, Left Sideback.
Davis, Thomo/Fergie, Bresciano, Niguez.
Velicka, Boyd

they Would be my targets and how i would play my team.

Murray is a knobber but i only care about the Bears getting back to the best.

Celtic fans guaranteed will be shouting for Strachan out when the season is finished we will win the league this year.
How is it not? The SPL is a terrible league and the Old Firm is gradually getting worse and worse man. Any team in the top half of the Prem is an improvement on Rangers nowadays, and I'm not even saying that to be a dick.

And it's a shame, it is, it'd be great for British football to see the likes of Rangers challenging in the CL but I mean nowadays the likes of Laudrup and Gazza have been replaced by Mculloch and Novo and players of English Championship quality.

In a nut shell, Aston Villa >>>>> Rangers

[CaptainCabinet]

You best be paying him enough to buy all the Head and Shoulders he needs. That's all I'll say.

[Adammce05]

I always quite liked Pedro Mendes, first signing Gers have made this year that I've took notice of tbh.

[dotty_84]

aye he's decent i just pray we'll play niguez keep him for two years then he can fuck off lol
and Soze i'll reply to you when i have a keyboard instead of a shitty ps3 controller

[Clyde Frog]

I always quite liked Pedro Mendes, first signing Gers have made this year that I've took notice of tbh.

I'll agree with that as well, or sort of. Aaron's potential has kind of taking to me but I do rate Pedro Mendes and was quite surprised he signed for us. Was he not getting a game at Portsmouth as I'm sure they are in Europe this season.

[Charlie: 9]

Voted for by the SPL and the Writers. ;)

I know, I just dont agree with it :tongue:

Good result today then. I didnt see the match, so how did you play?

[dotty_84]

Finally got Davis now get Edu, a right back then i'm happy with the squad treble surely

[50!]

Don't count your chickens mate, I'd be happy with the league however we do it.

I'd like to see us get a centre half who can play at right back, Marek Suchy would be brilliant but I don't know if we could pull that one off. Mendes was class against Hearts, can't wait to see more from him.

[dotty_84]

haha trying to wind up charlie9, still think it's possible we through it away last,not this time

[Charlie: 9]

Think its going to be a good season, and will again go down to the wire...

Aberdeen away next? Predictions?

[Clyde Frog]

No doubt last day feelings will come back against Aberdeen but I expect a good, confident performance as well as the win. I'll go with a 2-0 win. Velicka and Mendes to get on the score sheet.

[Clyde Frog]

Well, Steve Davis has returned and Maurice Edu has officially signed with his work permit being granted. I reckon that we will probably at least sign one more player (Hopefully a right-back) and hope we get rid of some wasters like Alan Gow. I'll be honest when I saw him against LA Galaxy last year I thought he done well and feel he hasn't been given a chance but he has been here for a year now and with more strikers and midfielders the guy's chance at getting a game is less from last season and therefore no point having someone like him at Rangers.

This may also be the last chance for others like Chris Burke to prove himself. He has been at Rangers for awhile and has been good at times but hasn't been very consistant and is prone to being out for long spells with injury and this may be his last chance for a consistant performance in a good run of games.

I have to admit before the season started I was like most of us who went ape shit over Kaunas but I think the team has slowly improved and I think (and hope) that this Kaunas shocker may be a blessing in disguise. Last season we tried to focus on all 4 trophies. They kept going on about the quadruple for half of the season right up until the last 2 weeks and what did we end up with? Half of them and probably the 2 worse ones out of the 4 but now out of Europe we can just focus domestically for a change.

I'm beginning to look forward again and hope that this team will finally end this league draught.

[50!]

I think our squad has too many strikers: Lafferty, Miller, Cousin, JCD, Novo, Naismith, Velicka, Boyd and even McCulloch. Apart from Lafferty and Naisy, I wouldn't be too sad if any of them left which is quite bad but I'd happily give up any 4 or 5 for one brilliant striker. Anyway thats not going to happen but I think our squad is too big and full of people that need to go. I'd definitely try and punt Adam, Dailly, McCulloch and JCD although Walter likes them. I'd keep Hemdani and Cousin but Walter seems to want to get rid of them without any success. I'd also like one quality centre back beside Bougherra but unless we use Edu there, I can't see us signing one so we'll have to use Weir, Dailly or Broadfoot.

Anyway now we have a squad that looks like it can win the league but we need Walter to use the right tactics. However McCulloch will still always get a game, Dailly will be picked over Hemdani and Furman and Broadfoot over Whittaker. So far Walter has tried forward pairings of Boyd/Velicka and JCD/Miller both of which I think are useless because they're too like each other. If I was manager, I'd play something like this:

McShagger
Whitts Majid Weir Papac
Mendes Thommo Davis
Aaron Lafferty DeBeasley

Whether we ever see a time like that, I very much doubt. I'd love to have a on form, 100% Danny Cousin but I can't see it happening because he would be perfect as the target man but his attitude stinks.

[50!]

More proof that Scottish referees and linesmen are corrupt. Thomson did well today but obviously the linesman couldn't go the whole game without being fair.

[Guillermo]

Just checked the scoreline for the first time, expecting Celtic to be winning. :lol:

[Miggy]

Totally fucked up my accumulator. Congrats nonetheless.

[Adammce05]

scorline flattered them, but aye they played well ill give credit where its due.

i think we can all safely say that arturs head is not with the club today, dno wot the hell was up with him he could have saved 3 of those goals, only one id say he couldny get to was millers first.

shame man .. we played well. oh well.

hailhail !

[50!]

Outstanding performance from us, Cousin should have never been sent off. Obviously I'm biased but their centre halfs were going in with elbows and knees and after McAnus and the Heid kept complaining the ref caved in and gave them what the wanted. Anyway, wasn't too happy with Adam and Miller starting but they did okay. Miller was shocking first half but made up for it, I very much hope he scores more goals now. Broadfoot, Davis and Mendes were brilliant and Brown9 and Fartley the Thug were invisible. We were stupid to concede right after opening the scoring but the 3 points are what matters. ;)

[Clyde Frog]

scorline flattered them, but aye they played well ill give credit where its due.

i think we can all safely say that arturs head is not with the club today, dno wot the hell was up with him he could have saved 3 of those goals, only one id say he couldny get to was millers first.

shame man .. we played well. oh well.

hailhail !

I would also say that the speed of Mendes' goal amongst the crowded area and as close to the post without touching it, I certainly wouldn't falt any keeper for not saving at. If you want to look for an excuse for the 3rd goal then I would probably say Paul Hartley for not picking up Mendes and for allowing the ball to go through his legs. But why am I making excuses? We won!

[50!]

http://i33.tinypic.com/35k31fs.jpg

Brilliant pass by Mendes, great skill from the Captain and he takes it past the traitor. the traitor brings him down cynically, doesn't get booked but the Captain just grins. Brilliant. :D

[dotty_84]

Not been on in ages but the match last Sunday was brilliant. When i heard what the starting line up was i was like fuck!

Really didn't want Cousin and definately Adam playing then i didn't mind him adding Cousin just why Adam.

What a match the only way Celtic would have one was through our on downfall being OG's and reckless tackling in dangerous terrortory.

Thought Mendes was class he's been our best player this season early doors yet.

Cousin getting sent off was a disgrace a yellow yes but 2 fuck off!

Just shows Celtic can't win unless they get dodgy decisions well against us :D

[ads]

Fuck me. Has anyone seen Kris Boyd's goal against Partick Thistle?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7635105.stm

[50!]

Fuck me. Has anyone seen Kris Boyd's goal against Partick Thistle?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7635105.stm

Aye it was a class goal, Mendes' was too however Boyd then proceeded to do absolutely fuck all for the rest of the game. Yes he gets goal but when he isn't scoring, we're playing with 10 men.

[dotty_84]

Most of the team played shite, Novo as per usual needs 14 chances to score. Boyds goal was ok but aye 50! your right he done fuck all and lack acceleration to get a ball. Smith should have fucked Novo upfront and put Beasley on the left for pace.

Would have liked to have seen Edu get on later on for Thommo. Mendes was the only decent player in my eyes, yet again. Hopefully Edu praying Aaron gets his chance too, we need some young blood with speed in the team.

[50!]

Even Mendes was wasteful with poessession in the second half. Beasley has been shite for the last 3 games too. I don't think anyone performed for us on Wednesday night, the whole team was honking and theres no excuse. I too would like to see Aaron given a chanc but apparently he hasn't been that good for the reserves.

I bet everyone regrets selling Cousin now.

[Clyde Frog]

I'm not going to single out any player on Sunday night as I think as a team we were dreadful. Lucky to escape through that game with a win although both of our goals are top quality. This was a mid week game against a lesser opponent so maybe they did take the foot off the pedal a bit. That is really the only excuse I can make for that game. We'll see on Sunday.

I bet everyone regrets selling Cousin now.

Cousin was a good striker for us but in the end, he didn't want to stay there. He wanted a move to the Premiership. Out of the lot he probably actually seems like he was our best striker but I certainly wouldn't like watching a player play every week knowing that he doesn't want to be at this club.

As for Aaron, I have heard he has been playing well in reserves. He is a young player that a lot of us haven't seen him play competitively so it is a bit of a risk to be throwing him in the last few games were haven't really been in a comfortable position to win the matches.

[dotty_84]

Truth be told we need to give some young lads a chance. Lennon was brilliant last year as was Furman in the reserves i didn't really think McCormack got a chance yet Broken Burke gets games, it's a fucking pain.

I still think we should have took a chance not bought Miller, Velicka and Lafferty put there wages together and got Klasnic on free who would have came, a quality striker is needed. Fuck wage structure sometimes players deserve a little more than others.

[dotty_84]

Top of the league!

[Mullet Taylor]

im sure alot of people in these forums care for the Crusty The Clown league

[dotty_84]

It's not that bad. It get's slated far too easily. We have a 5 million population we can't draw in the crowds throughout the league, purely the only reason why we don't cause a stir in Europe we match if not we have more passion than most leagues.

And why do you think Rangers and Celtic wouln't get in the EPL, because we'd win it.

[Mullet Taylor]

lmao im a Celtic Fan

I just posted that to see if it would rattle your cage a little :p

Celtic and Rangers will never get into the prem. We'd need to start at the sewers of the English League and work our way up. Plus Its impossible to think of the travel costs. feck that for a game of soldiers

Celtic and Rangers are fine, its the other teams in scotland that need finance. If other stadiums would be invested in, made up all nice etc. Businessmen would come in too. I know alot of English people that stay in Scotland because its Cheaper than England, but its just as good as England in living ways

It'll never be fair. Hull City got more money than Celtic got for winning the SPL. The money that Sky give the prem is unreal... Setanta are trying but it'll never be like for like :(

[dotty_84]

I know you support Celtic lol.

The league needs restructured and the FA are a board of money grabbing tits like most FA'

The league should be made into 3 tiers and 16 teams per division.
1 Home and 1 Away match against each teams means a handful of less matches making room for a Christmas break. Makes the matches less repeditive and games will be more important, more tactical as you get 2 matches instead of 4.

It would possibly add more media attention as it'd be more interesting which means more money that should be divided to the smaller clubs than Rangers and Celtic.

[50!]

lmao im a Celtic Fan

I just posted that to see if it would rattle your cage a little :p

Celtic and Rangers will never get into the prem. We'd need to start at the sewers of the English League and work our way up. Plus Its impossible to think of the travel costs. feck that for a game of soldiers

Celtic and Rangers are fine, its the other teams in scotland that need finance. If other stadiums would be invested in, made up all nice etc. Businessmen would come in too. I know alot of English people that stay in Scotland because its Cheaper than England, but its just as good as England in living ways

It'll never be fair. Hull City got more money than Celtic got for winning the SPL. The money that Sky give the prem is unreal... Setanta are trying but it'll never be like for like :(

Rangers and Celtic have huge fanbases, how are the other Scottish teams supposed to get "finance", money doesn't grow on trees.

Travel costs? Russia have a league where some of the teams are different time zones away.

Rangers and Celtic will never join the Premier League because we're not wanted. We'd take a huge chunk of their TV money and do they really want more competition?

Keyser Soze put it well when he said, "you're a tool".

[Mullet Taylor]

sticks and stones...

[dotty_84]

Watched the Rangers reserves match vs Kilmarnock

Aaron Niguez played brilliant, a few more games like that and he cannot be left out.
Still wish McCulloch to fuck off during January.

[50!]

Watched the Rangers reserves match vs Kilmarnock


Everyone I spoke to said he hasn't impressed. Also I we drew that game with 9 players that consider themselves "first teamers". :fplm:

Definitely need a win tommorow, same team as Hibs apart from JCD who I think is shite.

[dotty_84]

Yeah he's taken a while to find his feet but if you could give a MOTM award he would have got it. Crossing was accurate, He took a fantastic freekick alot like Senna against Celtic but right in the bottom left great save kept it out and he headed the ball back for Velicka who scored the equaliser.

Yeah The Saints ain't doing great right now a few goals would be nice yeah JCD has disappointed me though he done decent last year up front on his own, expect more when he has a partner. I've not been keen on any of our striking signings but if i had to pick a player to go up front with Miller who is first choice then i'd pick Velicka, atleast he scores and works more than Boyd does.

Yeah 9 first team guys, Lafferty was crap, McCulloch was crap, Novo had more chances to score than a guy in a room full of hookers on rhypnol yet didn't put them away.

Players like Lennon, Furman and Fleck would have more impact than some of players he have who get a game, bloody joke with Smitty would take a chance maybe throw on Fleck with 20 minutes to go when we're 3-0 up but i doubt he would. Furman would give Thompson a run for his money aswell.

[50!]

Furman and Lennon are away on loan anyway, doubt Fleck will get a look in until the league is won or lost. I'd start Laffarty and Miller tommorow, I think Velicka needs to get fitter and sharper or he'll end up a lot like Boyd. Lafferty impressed me in the first two games and I think he deserves a chance up top. Knowing Walter he'll be wide left though.

Novo's finishing annoys me too, can't believe he got 25 for us in the Helicopter season now but thats what happens when you constantly play him out wide, his finishing deteriorates. Lee McCulloch, not a footballer if he plays in the first team anywhere I'll be really angry but even more so if hes at centre half. Cheers again Eck and Walter.

Kudos on the 1690th reply. ;)

[dotty_84]

Novo's finishing annoys me too, can't believe he got 25 for us in the Helicopter season now but thats what happens when you constantly play him out wide, his finishing deteriorates. Lee McCulloch, not a footballer if he plays in the first team anywhere I'll be really angry but even more so if hes at centre half. Cheers again Eck and Walter.

Kudos on the 1690th reply. ;)

I've always thought Novo takes too many chances to score, i'd keep him in the squad though he runs his balls off and plays for the shirt.

McCulloch was out of position in the reserves match which gifted them the chance which was well put away.

I don't think Lafferty has played too well to be honest and he has had niggles for the past month.

Haha i never thought about the reply

[Gun_Runner]

Disappointed with the result today!

2 local boys were playinf for St. Mirren, one scored the goal and the other is on loan from Celtic. Quite a good goal he scored as well. Just seemed like one of those games where Rangers could have played for 4 hours and not score.

[50!]

Adam and JCD can be added to McCulloch and Dailly in players that should never play for us again.

Miller didn't do anything, Mendes and Davis lacked the killer instinct, Weir looked his age, McGregor's positioning was bad for the goal, Papac is awful going forward, Broadfoot tried and couldn't produce. Bougherra was the only one with pass marks for me today and Thomson until he got injured. Walter when will you ever learn? :(

[Yossi]

Coronation Street bosses have changed the script for an episode of the soap after complaints from Rangers fans.

Supporters complained after the character Tony Gordon - played by Scottish actor Gray O'Brien - made a jibe about the Glasgow club.

O'Brien's character had said: "I could no more be interested in Rosie Webster than I could support Glasgow Rangers."

An ITV spokeswoman confirmed that after "dozens" of complaints, the script for a forthcoming episode had been changed.

ITV said that line seemed "to have caused some upset".

One of the character's lines in a future episode - reported to be a remark that he was allergic to "warm beer, the English national anthem and Glasgow Rangers" - has now been dropped.

The spokewoman said: "Both comments were in keeping with the character of Tony Gordon.

"But we have to bear in mind that it does seem to have caused some upset so the decision was made to take the line out.

"It doesn't compromise the drama of the episode and if it did then the line definitely wouldn't have been taken out."

She added: "We also felt in the absence of a character balancing things up on the other side of the Old Firm, it was a line not worth repeating."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7652475.stm

That's a little bit pathetic from those who complained.

[Gun_Runner]

why was Alexander dropped for McGregor today? I reckon he was partly at fault for the goal, his positioning was awful

[50!]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7652475.stm

That's a little bit pathetic from those who complained.

Agreed.

We seem to have fans who want to follow suit of Celtc fans who have been doing it years.

[Mullet Taylor]

Top of the league!

hehe

[dotty_84]

Joint top now then but we still humped you so we should be top

[CRISSGRAN]

Nah, we didn't get humped by St Mirren though, that just embarrassing lol In all fairness though, you been playing well in the league this year and seem to have made some good signings, but why Walter put McGregor back in, i'll never know, he wasn't in the right mind set yet.

[Gun_Runner]

why didn't Boyd play for Scotland today? seriously, it was embarassing...

and for the 'manager' to come out and say it's because he doesn't always play for Rangers, well, does Darren Fletcher start regularly for Man Utd?

[dotty_84]

How the hell am i booked?

Please explain mods?

[50!]

You're probably better off asking in here mate:

http://www.pesgaming.com/showthread.php?t=54098

Anyway, Boyd telling Burley to fuck himself? Right or Wrong?

I think Boyd could do a lot more on his overall game and I probably wouldn't start him in every game for us. However if our bench consisted of Boyd and Iwelumo it wouldn't even be a decision.

[dotty_84]

Ta Buddy.

I think he was right i agree with him doing more, alot more outside of the box.
Saying that how the hell do you play 4-1-4-1 at home against Norway?
With McFadden(I'm the most overrated player in the Scottish team) upfront on his own?

Iwelumo done decent for a guy who hasn't played top flight ever really.

It should have been 4-4-2 with McFadden & Boyd and i only say McFadden because Iwelumo and Fletcher lack experience.
And play the fucking ball to there feet what's with punting it up in the air, we're not that fucking shite.

Burley is utter shit, he's done fuck all as a manager 4 months at Hearts fuck me.
Fuck all else accept being at shitty Ipswich.

I won the Premiership in my first season on Footy manager with Spurs, can i be the next Scotland manager? I'd be better than that nonse sounding prat Burley.

[Clyde Frog]

I think Boyd was right to not play under Burley. Let's face it he is obviously barely going to be given a chance under Burley and if he isn't going to be given a chance, why go out and train? for us it is one less player we need to worry about coming back injured.