View Full Version : Riots in Buenos Aires as River Plate Relegated
BarnDoor
26-06-2011, 22:00
Reports on twitter of at least one death already, hopefully more to follow, along with immense carnage. Apparently the ref didn't even add any injury time as the rioting had already begun.
This is the best way to keep up-to-date:
http://twitter.com/#!/MundoAlbicelest
Argentinians are crazy when it comes to football!
BarnDoor
26-06-2011, 22:17
Christ there's reports that Boca fans are organizing a march later this evening just to take the piss. There could be fucking war.
Just imagine if Maradona led the Boca fans, it could be too much.
Daft thing is relegation is calculated over three seasons in Argentina to help avoid River & Boca getting relegated, fans can't grumble, league did all they could do keep them in.
Cannon ball
27-06-2011, 00:25
Argentinians are crazy when it comes to football!
English fans can take a leaf out of their book. Then maybe David Pleat would have been lynched by City fans after relegation in the 80's, which would all spare us whatever comes out of his useless mouth.
AgentZero
27-06-2011, 00:56
this is mental, June must be sore losers month...first the Canucks and now this (albeit not surprising though).
I guess the same passion that brings a really good footballing atmosphere is now the catalyst for rioting.
Here's a few photos from a link off the Twitter; Link (http://www.elpais.com/fotogaleria/imagenes/descenso/River/elpgal/20110626elpepudep_2/Zes/1)
Crazy. Can't wait to read about this all tomorrow, will this be in any newspapers do you think? Got about an hours bus ride tomorrow morning so it would be nice to read about people going mental in Argentina to pass the time. Not sure if any papers over here would even bother giving it coverage mind.
muscularmatt
27-06-2011, 01:48
Sir Alf was right about them. Animals.
Unbelievable to even think about it. But it's true!
http://www.mundoalbiceleste.com/Article.aspx?id=2457&title=river-plate-relegated
Am I right that if it had finished 3-3 on aggergate, River would have stayed up?
muscularmatt
28-06-2011, 16:36
The fact that it was so fucking hard for them to get relegated to start with is a total piss take. The whole 'keep the big big and the small small' attitude of FIFA and many of it's member states. It's the perefect representation of what's wrong with professional football today. Hope they cause so much of a ruck they get banned from football forever and ever and ever.
Argentina isn't the only latin country to host this absurd relegation over multiple seasons. Its clearly designed to keep neutral and commercial interest in a Championship. Its like a World Cup without Brazil, or a Champions League without Barcelona and Real Madrid. Its damaging to the league's income. I'm surprised the Argentine FA haven't found a loop hole to reinstate River Plate.
BarnDoor
28-06-2011, 20:24
Am I right that if it had finished 3-3 on aggergate, River would have stayed up?
I don't think so - I'm pretty sure I read that an aggregate draw favoured the lower division team.
I don't think so - I'm pretty sure I read that an aggregate draw favoured the lower division team.
Indeed, River had to win to stay up. Well I say stay up, they weren't technically in a position to get relegated in terms of league position.
Dragonfly
29-06-2011, 00:08
I'm surprised the Argentine FA haven't found a loop hole to reinstate River Plate.
There's still time. I'm expecting for something ridiculous to happen, like a brand new rule to ensure River Plate stay up.
AgentZero
29-06-2011, 13:29
I don't think so - I'm pretty sure I read that an aggregate draw favoured the lower division team.
I was advised that the lower ranked team needed an absolute victory over two legs, no away goals, no extra times and pennos.
Shit was stacked way in favour of River Plate, it hilarious that they did everything right to get relegated. Some of the fans even tried to get the match abandoned in the first leg after they were already down 2-0.
Problem lies with the barra bravas influence over the club and consequently the FA.
Forgive me for being ethnocentric but the way football is run in Europe as companies is much more functional than 'social association'
muscularmatt
29-06-2011, 15:05
Europe isn't entirely clean of this sort of influence though. Just look at the bloody Italians.
AgentZero
29-06-2011, 15:14
The italians looks like saints comparatively. Juve went down without much fuss and that was due to mismanagement rather than poor form, so in a sense less deserving (vague application of the term)
muscularmatt
29-06-2011, 15:24
Oh yeah not saying they were that bad, I was merely talking about the massive outside (and illegal) influences on Italian clubs. The sort of thing that would not be stood for atall in this country.
Sabatasso
04-07-2011, 01:46
The worst part is that a swift return might be quite hard to pull off. They are broke, and the already thin squad will become stripped of any talent pretty soon.
Of course they can hope for old club players to return and play for nickles and dimes a year or two to bounce them back, but I wouldn't count on it to happen.
http://www.mundoalbiceleste.com/Article.aspx?id=2498&title=history-has-changed-today-in-argentine-football
Oh Argentina. I'm starting to enjoy seeing them fail.
I feel for Messi having to play for them though.
http://www.mundoalbiceleste.com/Article.aspx?id=2498&title=history-has-changed-today-in-argentine-football
Oh Argentina. I'm starting to enjoy seeing them fail.
I feel for Messi having to play for them though.
Incredible. The Argentine FA have no credibility. Hooligan group Barra Barra no doubt are a catalyst for this.
muscularmatt
26-07-2011, 21:46
This typifies the sort of pathetically insular elitism that's existed in football for too long. Disgusting.
This typifies the sort of pathetically insular elitism that's existed in football for too long. Disgusting.
FA, government and Police can't contain the hooligan element in Argentine footie Matt, they have their own sections of grounds and access to tickets from the club which they can tout. In return, the hooligans protect the clubs interests. As they see it. It is utterly backwards. And disgusting, as you said.
muscularmatt
26-07-2011, 22:03
Can't contain? Or choose not to, because it's easier to preserve a nervy status quo than tackle the problem?
Can't contain? Or choose not to, because it's easier to preserve a nervy status quo than tackle the problem?
Believe it or not, the police and the clubs rather the fans be at football matches, although it keeps them occupied, its giving them a platform to organise themselves.
The bit that really pisses me off about this is the fact that if it had been and English club we would likely be barred from the next international competitions for both country and club.
As it's in South America, FIFA don't seem to give a shit. Can't see Argentina missing a World Cup over this, despite it not exactly being a rarity.
AgentZero
26-07-2011, 22:13
FFFFFUUUUU That just pisses me of, they literally have changed it to accommodate River, who let's hope keep losing and end up relegated anyway. Cunts!!
muscularmatt
26-07-2011, 22:17
Let's hope they invade the Falklands again so we get an excuse to wail on them.
The bit that really pisses me off about this is the fact that if it had been and English club we would likely be barred from the next international competitions for both country and club.
As it's in South America, FIFA don't seem to give a shit. Can't see Argentina missing a World Cup over this, despite it not exactly being a rarity.
Well FIFA candidates see CONMEBOL as an important voters so they'll never castigate its members ... despite wankers like this
http://www.insideworldfootball.biz/worldcup/brazil/9476-i-will-make-your-lives-hell-teixeira-threatens-english-fa
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