View Full Version : Some ML additions I think would be nice
MysteryMan
23-07-2011, 02:06
1. Ability to choose clubs after a season ends ( hire/fire ), so if you get fired from a club u have the ability to coach another club ( based on your reputation etc which would determine which clubs you would be wanted in, for example if your reputation is low you would only get offers from low clubs ).
2. Ability to coach national teams, that is all.
3. B Leagues for every league not just one
4. Full youth teams that play games aswell and grow as players, you could call up these players into your team at any time you want ( in case of injuries ) and also could promote them to full 1st team at the end of a season.
5. Realistic money ( Man City has tons of money while some low clubs are very poor )
6. Realistic transfers ( im sick of Messi or Rooney or whatever signing for clubs like Osasuna or Napoli or whatever ) , seriously do you just want to piss us off konami? This could easily be done by simply having a affection system that counts, so for example Messi has an incredible high affection for Barca and it would be almost impossible to sign him, and if some club manages to sign a star player it should be the big and rich clubs, not some low grade clubs ( this could also be fixed by making realistic money ( Man City rich , some low clubs poor etc ) aswell as making really star players unwilling to sign for low clubs unless they start getting into certain age 33+
7. Better transfer system ( ability to offer players in deals aswell as money , aswell as MORE offers from MORE clubs, why the hell do I only see 1 offer for my player and thats it? ridicilous...)
8. Better and more realistic injuries ( PES often seems to not have enough and also you should be able to see what kind of injury it is, is it really hard to do that?
9. Better player growth system ( its way too similar and predictable, and it should to some small extent matter if you play more matches or none aswell, im not saying it should matter alot but to some extent , for example if you have a player on ur bench for 3 years not playing a single game he obviously shouldn't grow that much, if he gets like 10 matches per season then he already grows a bit better and if he plays 20+ he grows a bit faster , the difference should not be that big but still noticable )
10. Past winners in tournaments ( rly so hard to ask? ), for example you can see the past winners in CL , so lets say man utd wins it and the next year barca wins and then chelsea ( example ) you can see it clearly
2012 Man Utd
2013 Barca
2014 Chelsea
would be a nice addition, perhaps also past top scorers , would be a nice addition I think
11. more media involvement, so you can read about the news, derbies, transfers etc aswell as urself, for example u lose 5 games in a row and the media starts talking about it and saying will he still be coach at the end of the year, or rumors that x team is looking for a new coach etc.
1. Ability to choose clubs after a season ends ( hire/fire ), so if you get fired from a club u have the ability to coach another club ( based on your reputation etc which would determine which clubs you would be wanted in, for example if your reputation is low you would only get offers from low clubs ).
2. Ability to coach national teams, that is all.
3. B Leagues for every league not just one
4. Full youth teams that play games aswell and grow as players, you could call up these players into your team at any time you want ( in case of injuries ) and also could promote them to full 1st team at the end of a season.
5. Realistic money ( Man City has tons of money while some low clubs are very poor )
6. Realistic transfers ( im sick of Messi or Rooney or whatever signing for clubs like Osasuna or Napoli or whatever ) , seriously do you just want to piss us off konami? This could easily be done by simply having a affection system that counts, so for example Messi has an incredible high affection for Barca and it would be almost impossible to sign him, and if some club manages to sign a star player it should be the big and rich clubs, not some low grade clubs ( this could also be fixed by making realistic money ( Man City rich , some low clubs poor etc ) aswell as making really star players unwilling to sign for low clubs unless they start getting into certain age 33+
7. Better transfer system ( ability to offer players in deals aswell as money , aswell as MORE offers from MORE clubs, why the hell do I only see 1 offer for my player and thats it? ridicilous...)
8. Better and more realistic injuries ( PES often seems to not have enough and also you should be able to see what kind of injury it is, is it really hard to do that?
9. Better player growth system ( its way too similar and predictable, and it should to some small extent matter if you play more matches or none aswell, im not saying it should matter alot but to some extent , for example if you have a player on ur bench for 3 years not playing a single game he obviously shouldn't grow that much, if he gets like 10 matches per season then he already grows a bit better and if he plays 20+ he grows a bit faster , the difference should not be that big but still noticable )
10. Past winners in tournaments ( rly so hard to ask? ), for example you can see the past winners in CL , so lets say man utd wins it and the next year barca wins and then chelsea ( example ) you can see it clearly
2012 Man Utd
2013 Barca
2014 Chelsea
would be a nice addition, perhaps also past top scorers , would be a nice addition I think
11. more media involvement, so you can read about the news, derbies, transfers etc aswell as urself, for example u lose 5 games in a row and the media starts talking about it and saying will he still be coach at the end of the year, or rumors that x team is looking for a new coach etc.
I hope these will be true.
sydney2008
23-07-2011, 09:59
I hope so , there is a good idea as you mentioned Mysteryman for the coaches to train and coach national teams , i would like to see that in ML ONLINE , so all of us will have many national teams online which we can play them in a tournament ONLINE such as world cup 2014 or world cup qualifiers and the winner will get a prize from KONAMI such as a T-Shirt or something like that . Thank you .
yeah , it will be nice to coach national team :)
1. The change teams is an interesting idea but I think it would only work if there were actually managers in the game, which I think is a good idea but would take work, as you would have to give the manager AI certain philosophies and every team they have would have to change with the new manager, a big ask to achieve well in the game.
It would also have to be a feature you can deactivate, as I and other ML obsessives like to create our own clubs from scratch and just build them up. Thats no good if you get fired!
3. I wholly agree, ML should be expanded as much as possible with multiple leagues and divisions.
5,6,7,8,9. Agree
10. Majorly agree, I'd love to have a full record of everything that happens in your ML.
I think what you are basically asking for (and me as well) is a FM type game where you play as well. Its my dream too but I think its some way off unfortunately. Most of the things you suggest are quite easily done, but I just don't think enough players or Konami think about PES like this.
yeah , it will be nice to coach national team :)
Gonna like the game if we can change club to manage.
Example: If we manage Bayern Munchen, then we change to other club like Schalke 04...
Ultimate777
23-07-2011, 11:56
Player hardly got injured at all in master league from what I remember which is just dumb as it doesn't give you any incentive to utilise your whole squad.
They need to add two footed tackles and leg breaks.
9. Better player growth system ( its way too similar and predictable, and it should to some small extent matter if you play more matches or none aswell, im not saying it should matter alot but to some extent , for example if you have a player on ur bench for 3 years not playing a single game he obviously shouldn't grow that much, if he gets like 10 matches per season then he already grows a bit better and if he plays 20+ he grows a bit faster , the difference should not be that big but still noticable )
Konami have already implemented this type of growth and named it as dynamic growth meaning good peformances mean higher ratings, bad means lower ratings and on the bench means they'll have the same rating so there is no need to complaain about that.
I also think players should increase less for example in my ml, lukaku is 107 which is stupid.
Ali_BWFC
23-07-2011, 17:07
Can't fault any of your suggestions. I wouldn't be bothered about managing an international side, personally... but it would be a nice addition. To add to the international aspect, it should be handled better when players go away for international duty, in the sense that they shouldn't all come away knackered.
I bet that if you had a squad full of 25 English players, and they all got called away for duty, they'd all come back shattered!
I think there should be a PROPER calendar. Rather than having "2nd half week 4" etc. The you could have a proper international week, and players could come back fairly fresh.
Gonna like the game if we can change club to manage.
Example: If we manage Bayern Munchen, then we change to other club like Schalke 04...
You mean ' Become a Coach ' it will be wonderful:rolleyes:
roblucci
24-07-2011, 19:58
i think it would be nice if reserves teams match is implemented in during master league season so that we can choose the overall best player among them to be included in the first eleven team.
The Dude
25-07-2011, 00:32
i personally just want 6 leagues in master league and one division 2.............and i dont like a lot of transfers in master league. i have set on low and there are still a TON of transfers. really annoying
Basically, you want what Football Manager offers in ML. Well, seeing as how Football Manager is as realistic as it gets, I can't say that this would be anything short of brilliant.
Ali_BWFC
26-07-2011, 12:42
Contract negotiations need to be better. I have a 35yr old Elmander who is currently on about 3mil. He then asks for about 11mil for 1 extra year! Unbeflippinglievable! Also, you HAVE to offer the player what they ask for, you can't negotiate for a lower price or they'll just put their negotiations on hold!
The Eristic
31-07-2011, 20:36
I hope they don't force us to go through with the Master League "tutorial" each time we start an ML this year. It wastes half of the first transfer window and makes us bid for a player we probably don't want and often can't afford anyway, so we miss out on most of the free agents critical to making progress when starting with default players and/or a team with a tiny budget. At least let us skip it or bypass it when playing on higher difficulty levels. Most of us know what to do, so let us get on with it!
All I ever saw when I played Master League (haven't played it in a long time now, couple of years maybe) was Bolton coming top of the Premiership all the time. The transfers in ML were always ridiculous.
Would also like incentive to use other player's. I tend to use reserves a lot anyway in Exhibition based on the arrows, anyone blue/purple doesn't play, red get's a start and orange on the bench for a sub. Maybe something like a happiness rating or is that already part of it? :P
The Eristic
01-08-2011, 00:20
Also, bring back the "openness to negotiation" search option. The current "list of targets" are virtually never young players, always players at or past their peak. I only buy players I can grow, and I'd like to have a better idea of who is worth watching before I put them on my scout list. I put tons of young players with no appearances for their current club and contract negotiations on hold on my list, then have to wait forever to find out there's no way they'll join me, no reason given.
Another thing, when negotiations break down due to a player not wanting to compete for his place, I get really annoyed, because if I'm trying to buy a player with better stats than the other players in that position, I'm going to be starting them! The game needs to give us a way to interact with players, like in more developed management games, so we can address issues like that, rather than dismissing our bids out of hand.
Finally, if I'm holding 1st in the English League (which is usually the top-ranked league in the game) with the likes of PES United, I still get the "not interested in a move down" reason from bit part players in D2 or at mid-to-bottom-table clubs in other leagues, just because their team ranking is higher. Ranking updates need to be dynamic, or at least updated more often, so the AI will be more aware of what is and what isn't a move down.
Been playing too much ML today. :^|
scottw2307
01-08-2011, 22:51
Disagree with your point no 6.
Its a game, fantasy world of football. Why cant Napoli become giants and sign Messi in the game. Are you saying the only teams that can ever be big teams are the ones that are already big. Chelsea werent a big team until Abramovich came. Neither were Man city until they got taken over. How do you know that wont happen to a team like Napoli or Ossasuna. Napoli had Maradonna years ago.
Blade1889
02-08-2011, 10:37
Disagree with your point no 6.
Its a game, fantasy world of football. Why cant Napoli become giants and sign Messi in the game. Are you saying the only teams that can ever be big teams are the ones that are already big. Chelsea werent a big team until Abramovich came. Neither were Man city until they got taken over. How do you know that wont happen to a team like Napoli or Ossasuna. Napoli had Maradonna years ago.
But I thought Chelsea had always been a MASSIVE club???
Oh no wait, that's right, they used to get crowds of 15,000 back in the early 90's.
Strange how money changes things? ;)
Disagree with your point no 6.
Its a game, fantasy world of football. Why cant Napoli become giants and sign Messi in the game. Are you saying the only teams that can ever be big teams are the ones that are already big. Chelsea werent a big team until Abramovich came. Neither were Man city until they got taken over. How do you know that wont happen to a team like Napoli or Ossasuna. Napoli had Maradonna years ago.
I'm guessing this means me :happy:
True, it is a fantasy world and it would be cool to see teams that aren't that big at the present become world beaters! However, it is not possible for Bolton to come top of the premiership every year with the players that they have. If we want to see teams become world beaters, we should see something like a takeover and they receive a tonne of money so they can start purchasing the big players.
Either that or the big teams start selling off their star players and start signing pretty average players because of their manager, something Liverpool esque :w00t
Manager's really need to be put in game as they are the ones that really dictate how a team plays and works in the transfer market, looking solely at Arsene Wenger here in how he signs young talent that works in his system.
Cristiano92
02-08-2011, 12:46
They should take some features from PES Management (4-5 years old) back into the new games...
MysteryMan
02-08-2011, 17:58
Disagree with your point no 6.
Its a game, fantasy world of football. Why cant Napoli become giants and sign Messi in the game. Are you saying the only teams that can ever be big teams are the ones that are already big. Chelsea werent a big team until Abramovich came. Neither were Man city until they got taken over. How do you know that wont happen to a team like Napoli or Ossasuna. Napoli had Maradonna years ago.
Because its well known Messi won't leave barca and certainly not for Napoli, same for CR, why would they leave the best/2nd best club in the world? its not realistic sorry.
At most they could sign some world class players but ONLY if they had money, they obviously don't in real life, clubs like Man City fine, Malaga too, they can afford some big signins but Napoli can't so stop living in a fantasy world.
Tho theres a really easy fix to satisfy both of our needs, it would be adding editable money to teams, hence the people who want it more realistic would make man city more rich and such and people like you can do it your way.
I still don't agree about signing Messi tho thats pretty unrealistic unless u could offer like 200kk or more, theres no other way Barca would leave him and he certainly wouldn't want to leave. They should make player affections to clubs matter aswell as the really world class players not wanting to sign for low clubs like Bolton and such, thats unrealistic no matter what you say.
heatuk10
04-08-2011, 16:28
I'd like to see the addition of moving to other teams but this can only work if there are 2 divisions per league really... you can't say move from the epl to la liga and not have a div 2!
Aswell I have noticed teams in my 2011 master league seem to have a endless pot of money to sign players when there not winning anything... would this result them being massively in debt if you went to manage them?
and finally I'd like there being a thing where you can see who played well in international tournaments etc maybe have your scouts coming back with feedback on players to maybe sign etc!
6. Realistic transfers ( im sick of Messi or Rooney or whatever signing for clubs like Osasuna or Napoli or whatever )
I totally agree. I've laughed my ass off thousands of times during the past 10 years cause of highly unrealistic transfers such as you sescribe.
Also i would like to see the managers be more "alive" during the matches. Not just a person with his arms crossed for the entire match
- Proper accumulated fatigue system, this goes for the whole game
- Proper injury system
- A news and media hub, mock news articles etc
- Cash plus player deals
- Ability to decided the amount for an offer
- More customisable options for league structure
- Real youth squads
- No regens from ex players or at least an option to disable it, I dont want a 20 year old henry in youth team.
Bored now but you get the point.
Realistic injuries are a must this year. Konami shouldn't be affraid to let the user have five ro six or even more players injured at one time, managing a squad is a big part of the interest in Master League.
sweetmusicman
09-08-2011, 12:48
.Put in cut scenes during negotiations. e.g. board of directors sitting around a table/desk discussing renewals or new contracts with player and agent around a table. At the end you actually see the player signing the contract and then the handshake. Also reveal the new player at the team’s home ground with fans and supporters cheering and getting autographs from the new signed player
The Dude
10-08-2011, 06:19
be able to choose if you want transfers on in the beginning of the first master league season.....i hated in the last game how the transfer market was open when you first started....work so hard to get rosters right and there is a ton of transfers.
Bredazuid
10-08-2011, 18:10
I totally agree for a new injury system. Also regarding to MLO..
At the moment you only need to sign in 11 good players and buy the cheapest substitutes possible.. Since even if a player is injured in a match you can keep the player in the field. That doesnt make any sence..
And remove that useless tutorial, its insulting having to go through that every time I start a master league.
I agree, especially when it takes two weeks out and you can do nothing.
MysteryMan
10-08-2011, 21:16
Also we need a fast forward function where you can forward time and simulate more than 1 match.
For example if I want to check the development of some players and make it more realistic with lowering raising their stats before I start ML ( so some players don't get like ridicilous 104 stats or so ) I want to be able to simulate a few years forward not that I have to do it 1 week at a time.
Trades would be great ...
Also as others have said Messi really shouldnt be able to be transfered because he loves barca.
Something id like to see is youth team improvement all around from being able to watch games so it feels like u actually "discovered the player".
Also maybe like an attitude feature where players who are moody like Balotelli can become distant from the club emotionally etc...
there will be no master league but there will be football life which hundreds more realistic and covers nearly all your points
sebbisor
18-08-2011, 12:50
As a manager you need to feel you are part of the ML community. I've been craving for some sort of Match of The Day analysis after every weekend (or part of an add-on ) on a different dvd if it's too big to fit on the actual dvd, or any kind of live feed before, during, or after the game. this should be reflected also in the commentary, but it's a big ask , considering years ago there was no commentary at all.
At least to have the chance to watch one or two games of other teams from the current fixture, especially games of rivals. Pes should also work on cutomising team and manager personality. El clasico features almost all the times red card, pushing and shoving, and clashes on the touchline, this should be in the. I know it's difficult to create this with every team in the game but at least with the big teams. These may be big asks but the football can't live without these. If you watch EPL ou know what I mean. It's in the build-up to the actual game, that you already feel the adrenaline pumping.
there will be no master league but there will be football life which hundreds more realistic and covers nearly all your points
I hope so. Would be my dream. :cool:
gameclick
18-08-2011, 19:31
im gonna make my own team this year im gonna sign all the footballers that have been accused of rape and call them Sex Beasts FC
hope stadium editors improved aswell cos Im going to make the stadium look like a prison with a football pitch
Nemisiskidd
19-08-2011, 00:09
im gonna make my own team this year im gonna sign all the footballers that have been accused of rape and call them Sex Beasts FC
hope stadium editors improved aswell cos Im going to make the stadium look like a prison with a football pitch
lol..who's ur manager
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