View Full Version : All Gamescom PES 2012 Gameplay videos so far .
sydney2008
18-08-2011, 11:47
Hi guys , here are some links for all videos , These links are easier than youtube for loading the videos and also for mates whom can`t watch youtube videos .
1 - http://video.baidu.com/v?word=pes+2012+gamescom&ct=301989888&rn=20&pn=0&db=0&s=0&fbl=800
2 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2NzEwOTY4.html ( MAN U VS JUV )
3 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2NzU1MTEy.html ( Real vs MANU ) .
4- http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2MTQyMzEy.html
5 - http://www.enterupload.com/36odewv7zts2/JUV_VS_MILAN.mp4.html JUV VS MILAN .
6 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2NzQxMjQw.html LIL VS SR , French clubs . :)
7 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2ODEyNTg0.html ( REAL MADRID VS MANU ) .
8 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk2NzYxODk2.html ( BAR VS BAY )
9 - http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_pro_evolution_soccer_20 12_gc_showfloor_gameplay_2-22961_en.html TOT VS BAY
10 - http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk1OTk3ODA0.html Real Madrid vs Barcelona . ( Amazing A.I )
11 - http://multiplayer.it/video/pro-evolution-soccer-2012-pes-2012-per-ps3/pro-evolution-soccer-2012-videoanteprima-gamescom-2011.hi/ Some Italian Clubs ( Slow Pace ) .
NOTE : please Refresh that page from an hour to another for more uploaded videos .
Thank you .
Ali_BWFC
18-08-2011, 13:21
Just had a look at some of them. The guy doing a bloody give and go with his defenders - noob :facepalm:
wallpaper_01
18-08-2011, 13:30
Ha yeah or maybe thats konami's new player movement system... Wouldnt surprise me! haha!
Ali_BWFC
18-08-2011, 13:47
Ha yeah or maybe thats konami's new player movement system... Wouldnt surprise me! haha!
I doubt it, it's just a general noob tactic. Hold L1 whenever you press x (or whatever it is on the xbox). Sure it makes your players move forwards, but it leaves you as wide open as a prostitute's vagingle.
IronCity
18-08-2011, 13:50
I saw some good and bad in those videos. Some very tight animation play - I noticed several times where the pass was sent behind a running player so the AI made the player stop suddenly versus in 2011 where they would have kept going forward - also the running player lurched his shoulders forward to be able to counter and step backwards to gather the behind pass - very realistic looking maneuver.
One bad thing that stood out to me was that defenders backpedal at amazing speed. A few defenders changing direction must too fast during backpedalling than humanly possible. They need to be slowed down until they turn their hips and begin running forward.
Ali_BWFC
18-08-2011, 13:52
I saw some good and bad in those videos. Some very tight animation play - I noticed several times where the pass was sent behind a running player so the AI made the player stop suddenly versus in 2011 where they would have kept going forward - also the running player lurched his shoulders forward to be able to counter and step backwards to gather the behind pass - very realistic looking maneuver.
One bad thing that stood out to me was that defenders backpedal at amazing speed. A few defenders changing direction must too fast during backpedalling than humanly possible. They need to be slowed down until they turn their hips and begin running forward.
I've noticed this in previous games. It makes it very hard to wrong foot them when they can just turn form left to right so easily.
MysteryMan
18-08-2011, 14:37
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk1OTk3ODA0.html Real Madrid vs Barcelona . ( Amazing A.I )
A few things from that vid
Positives:
- Happy that AI in PES finally looks great , really great interplay and smart movements
- Happy that players are smart and aware of everything around them, unlike PES 2011 where they run over the line or into other players
- Happy that player cards mean alot more , for example Messi taking on players alot it seems having a incisive run card probably and so ( aswell as Robinho doing stepovers alot from another vid cuz he has trickster or whatever card )
Some potential negatives
- Barca rushing and attacking like maniacs when infact real Barca builds up very slowly, I hope that their gameplay is wrong and is all out attack because I would really hate if they YET again didn't get the posession play right for teams like Barca
- Why was Puyol rushing in attack once? He was actually crossing into the opponent box , what? Again hope the tactic used by Barca here is all out attack otherwise il be very pissed at things like this
- It seems to me that even defenders have incredible close control when running at speeds and tall defenders look incredibly agile?? Hopefully KONAMI just has crap stats because it looks quite unrealistic
- It seemed as if Barca players could outmuscle the real madrid ones easily which would be suggesting on higher difficulty the AI has better stats but its hard to say from this vid really it just seemed like that a few times, can't rly say
AI looks absolutely deadly, Messi in particular! Maybe this year when you get your originals team into the Champions League, you really will be clinging on for dear life against the likes of Inter and Real Madrid. Unlike 2011. Thing most impressed me was the pressing and the aggression of the attacking, finally might be what I've been wanting for years - a totally unforgiving AI that doesn't pull any punches. Here's hoping they don't bottle it with the final build. PES 2011 was in some ways better in the demo than the actual release.
sydney2008
18-08-2011, 17:11
ai looks absolutely deadly, messi in particular! Maybe this year when you get your originals team into the champions league, you really will be clinging on for dear life against the likes of inter and real madrid. Unlike 2011. Thing most impressed me was the pressing and the aggression of the attacking, finally might be what i've been wanting for years - a totally unforgiving ai that doesn't pull any punches. Here's hoping they don't bottle it with the final build. Pes 2011 was in some ways better in the demo than the actual release.
+1
Anyone seen this yet? Iv'e been waiting for this camera for years reminds me more of the next gen games, check it out looks stunning
Pitch side cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPV3U5tE6w
sportyfox
19-08-2011, 01:33
Anyone seen this yet? Iv'e been waiting for this camera for years reminds me more of the next gen games, check it out looks stunning
Pitch side cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxPV3U5tE6w
I agree S-D-P, it looks stunning. I'm a wide camera guy but that might change this year. It looks beautiful!:)
roblucci
19-08-2011, 03:18
in almost every PES 2012 videos I watched,there was always a player running forward after passing to another.that's the major bug I've seen lately.
^No, I think it's more of the players playing the game USING THE 1-2 PASS, because the AI doesn't make this all the time. :)
Ali_BWFC
19-08-2011, 07:04
They should try and find some actually GOOD players for these vids.... instead of crap noobs.
New Features/Improvements
The AI engine has undergone a major overhaul, with attacking emphasised as the cornerstone of play affording a more open approach to play.
AI players, your team mates, will now make intelligent dummy runs off-the-ball to open up the defence, move into space, all reacting to your moves – the whole team now reacts far more dynamically to the actions of the player, moving strategically during passing.
Defence has had some changes too, however, with zonal marking and positional defending both enhanced. The Active AI system ensures that players track attackers more effectively, but without compromising the shape of the team, while one-on-one situations offer greater control as defenders press and jostle to win the ball, as attackers can use upper body feints and movements to bypass and wrong-foot their man.
A new player switching system allows users to change to any player on the field using the right analogue stick. On Free Kicks, players will have far more control with lots more scope for pulling defenders out of position.
The jostling system introduced in the last game has also been extended, making for a far more physical experience. It offers proper bodily contact and physical reactions.
Graphics have been improved, (see Gallery) with new animations, visual enhancements and control elements. Player facial expression are more detailed while lighting effects are more natural. New cameras show off the huge variety of pitch-side movement, with more detail on and around the game than ever before. Such is the level of graphical finesses that you can see players sweating, their neck muscles tensing as they call for the ball and bark orders to each other, and the muscles in their mouths and around their eyes contract to show the emotions the players are experiencing.
Referees are also crucial to general game flow and their AI has been greatly enhanced to ensure fewer interruptions to play. Decisions are improved, and advantage is played much more regularly in offside and free kick scenarios. As such, refs will only intervene when truly necessary, but they will show cards if necessary once play has broken down. [1]
Pass Support allows users to determine the level of AI assistance when passing the ball. Players can opt for one of five settings from full support, right up to full veteran setting which switches off all assistance so that the direction, weight and speed of every pass is at their disposal. [2]
Teammate Control gives users complete control over secondary players while the runner has the ball – represent an astonishing advance for the series. The Teammate Control system works in two ways, with users pressing the right analogue stick in the direction of the player they wish to control. The Assisted mode allows the user to activate a second player by depressing the R3 button, and allows users to get to grips with the greater level of control via effective running movements. Greater control is offered by the Manual mode, wherein the user has complete freedom of movement of the second player, and can make shuttle runs, find space, and shake off markers before calling for the pass from the player still with the ball. The player will then revert to computer control when the R3 button is released, and can also be used to override any AI runs the player wants to cancel. Both can be affected at any time, so players can make moves without waiting for a pass to be completed. [3]
Challenge Mode makes a return to the game. It gives the player a series of tough tests which they can use to hone various skills. The mode allows users to work hard on their attacking and defending skills to improve their main game. Similarly, there are dribbling tests and set-piece challenges that necessitate hitting a series of targets, and punishing shooting tasks are used to push the player as they put in the hours that will make all the difference on field. [4]
Superstar Difficulty is a new difficulty for experienced gamers, a step higher than top-player.
Royal London Stadium is Emirates Stadium!!!
metsuri69
19-08-2011, 10:29
- The jostling system introduced in the last game has also been extended, making for a far more physical experience. It offers proper bodily contact and physical reactions.
- Referees are also crucial to general game flow and their AI has been greatly enhanced to ensure fewer interruptions to play. Decisions are improved, and advantage is played much more regularly in offside and free kick scenarios. As such, refs will only intervene when truly necessary, but they will show cards if necessary once play has broken down.
- Pass Support allows users to determine the level of AI assistance when passing the ball. Players can opt for one of five settings from full support, right up to full veteran setting which switches off all assistance so that the direction, weight and speed of every pass is at their disposal. [2]
- Challenge Mode makes a return to the game. It gives the player a series of tough tests which they can use to hone various skills. The mode allows users to work hard on their attacking and defending skills to improve their main game. Similarly, there are dribbling tests and set-piece challenges that necessitate hitting a series of targets, and punishing shooting tasks are used to push the player as they put in the hours that will make all the difference on field.
- Superstar Difficulty is a new difficulty for experienced gamers, a step higher than top-player.
Hallelujah to these! (Especially the new difficulty. Me want to feel the pain! :D
MysteryMan
19-08-2011, 12:48
I hope Superstar doesn't increase AI stats at all, they simply can outplay you like a noob.
But if you are Barca for example and play against like... a club from idk Israel they would be much weaker than if you play against a big club.
PES 2012 has improved alot!
^Good to know adam.
It does sound promising alot but as I always do, I will wait for at least the demo to judge, especially gameplay wise. Actually, I will wait for both demos to see if the 2nd one feels more finished.
A few things I've noticed that are extremely positive.
THE AI. Both your players and the way the AI plays against you. It no longer feels like a CPU, but more human.
They try to dribble you and ACTUALLY try to outsmart you not like in pes 11 or any other pes for that matter.
They also try to do moves against you and try to trick you. It's new for pes.
Your players move alot into open spaces and the general flow is much, much better. Reminded me of the flow that pes 5/6 had tbh. That was the thing missing from pes 11. Flow. The game didn't feel smooth and it put alot of people away.
Oh and the AI seems to play harder. I wonder if the players in the video played it at top player or not. But it cannot be SUPERSTAR because it has to be unlocked.
So if that was hard, then superstar would be a great battle. Something that lost it's way after pes 5. Yes pes 6 lost the difficulty that pes 5 had to offer.
These + the old features like Challenge training and 6th star difficulty are just wonderful to hear.
I need the demo now. :)
metsuri69
19-08-2011, 18:03
I hope Superstar doesn't increase AI stats at all, they simply can outplay you like a noob.
But if you are Barca for example and play against like... a club from idk Israel they would be much weaker than if you play against a big club.
I agree MysteryMan. Agree totally that this is the way AI should play.
But I'm reseved, and wouldn't be surprised if the superstar AI would cheat & script through you. Better not to put hopes too high, so there's no dissappointments :)
Truthfully I'd be happy if the AI could cheat it's way through my defence on PES2011 already, even with the crappiest team only the attack might be problematic at the moment.
EDIT:
few things to add, I wish Konami would this year include decent celebration animations when you win like a league, or cup.
This year (and few last years) there has been like 1 animation. The guys always do the same stuff.. *whee we win the cup* (and opponent looks dissappointed). *Whee we're promoted to 1st division* (and the opponent looks dissappointed.. wtf? why do they care that much :D) you get the picture..
In one pes I recall a team captain would run around the field with a team flag as a cloak, that was cool.
Simply put I'd wish winning something would look more like an accomplishment again.
Also incredible add would be to add a choice to do goal celebrations.. this was already in Ice hockey game like year 2002 and was so much fun there. So why not add to a football game as well? You could bind different celebrations to different button, then after a goal you have small time to press the button for that celebration. If none pressed player would do the generic normal celebration.
Superstar difficulty :w00t unless the demo is total dog dirt I am officially sold on 2012. Hopefully the game was actually designed around this level and to get the lower levels they worked back.
54 days/4,665,600 seconds/77,760 minutes/1296 hours to go.
I've noticed this in previous games. It makes it very hard to wrong foot them when they can just turn form left to right so easily.
That clearly is the massive limitation of the nonexistence of movement within the space; players can only move from left to right, zig zag, change of direction that would be humanly impossible due to the fact that before changing directions human beings need to position their body accordingly, with PES and FIFA body positioning is irrelevant and limited.
As for the videos, well it looks like PES is fun again, but other than that, I cannot say it is something different or revolutionary. Hopefully, the right analog stick off the ball movement feature will be intuitive enough and practical enough to emulate realistic possession play.
That clearly is the massive limitation of the nonexistence of movement within the space; players can only move from left to right, zig zag, change of direction that would be humanly impossible due to the fact that before changing directions human beings need to position their body accordingly, with PES and FIFA body positioning is irrelevant and limited.
As for the videos, well it looks like PES is fun again, but other than that, I cannot say it is something different or revolutionary. Hopefully, the right analog stick off the ball movement feature will be intuitive enough and practical enough to emulate realistic possession play.
This is one concern; ie ultra response times with no impact of momentum weight and body position, something pes 2011 did well even without no movement within the space, i felt the game was realistic in its representation of movement despite still being on the rails somewhat, hopefully pes 2012 won't be dumbed down to fifa 11/12 standards.
This is one concern; ie ultra response times with no impact of momentum weight and body position, something pes 2011 did well even without no movement within the space, i felt the game was realistic in its representation of movement despite still being on the rails somewhat, hopefully pes 2012 won't be dumbed down to fifa 11/12 standards.
Well that's the flaw about not having movement within the space; you can either slow the response down and use the slowed down response in order to give more importance to momentum and body positioning; or you can make it ultra responsive, in which case momentum and body positioning will be dumbed down, due to lack of time.
They can improve the animations and make it more fluid, even change the engine, but it will not change the fact that the left analog stick determines too many unrelated factors simultaneously. Realistically, even if you have the most advanced animations, you cannot implement a seemingly unlimited variety of animations, simply because directing the left analog stick determines the direction of the pass and the direction of movement through space simultaneously.
Ali_BWFC
22-08-2011, 11:27
That clearly is the massive limitation of the nonexistence of movement within the space; players can only move from left to right, zig zag, change of direction that would be humanly impossible due to the fact that before changing directions human beings need to position their body accordingly, with PES and FIFA body positioning is irrelevant and limited.
As for the videos, well it looks like PES is fun again, but other than that, I cannot say it is something different or revolutionary. Hopefully, the right analog stick off the ball movement feature will be intuitive enough and practical enough to emulate realistic possession play.
I never wanted anything revolutionary, I didn't think it needed it. I think it was "almost there" with 2011. But hell, if even YOU thinks 2012 looks fun, it must be something special :laugh:.
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