PESG Fantasy Football Table

[IronCity]

Congratulations Dragonfly for a 1st Place Finish

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Week 38 and Final Table
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Week 38 News: Congratulations to Dragonfly and his club, Club Univ. de Hounslow for winning the innagural PESGaming Fantasy Football League, 2011-2012. Dragonfly's incredible run saw him retain a #1 position for all weeks, sharing that lead with nemesis, the Midtable Med. Wanderers, for one week.

Congratulations to all who stuck it out through thick and thin to make this an exciting league. Plenty of dialouge the entire season made my season the most interesting of all fantasy games I have played. I hope you enjoyed it as well.

No changes among table placements for this last week.

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Download Player Data through week 37 (http://www.mediafire.com/file/uaabf2jmbfu6fia/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_37.xls)

Online Player Data for Week 31 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdE9jUG1QQWFwbG9ZbkJfY2sxc3Z NcVE).

--Be careful while using online data - I had to allow editing so the filter feature will work for anyone. Be sure to Edit - Undo if you change any cell data mistakenly. Data is backed up, but an edit would spoil it for the next viewer.




Twinkie Cup Semifinal Decided: SS Phatzio and MMW advance for January 2-4 Matchweek Final
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[Dragonfly]

Good job, Iron.

[muscularmatt]

I failed because of Man U dicking on Bolton didn't I? I knew I should have put Gomes in goal.

[Bammers05]

Didn't know Gomes plays for Bolton?

[muscularmatt]

Re read, Bummers.

[Michu]

That's a nice looking table. We ought to see if it meets with Appswah's exacting standards though ;)

[IronCity]

I failed because of Man U dicking on Bolton didn't I? I knew I should have put Gomes in goal.

Jaasky only cost you -2. Just a bad week. You left 9 points in the leather seats.

I am going to wait to post the spreadsheet results until after the transfer window closes only to avoid confusing people with how much money they are holding onto - week 4 money is not available for spending right now.

CF Pijo Burro
Week 4
Michael Carrick 1
Andy Carroll 1
Chamakh 1
Ashley Cole 2
Michael Essien 0
William Gallas 0
Heurelho Gomes 0
Jordan Henderson 2
Stephen Hunt 2
Alan Hutton 1
Jussi Jääskeläinen -2
Phil Jagielka 0
Kenwyne Jones 1
James McCarthy 0
Jack Rodwell 2
Chris Smalling 3
Kolo Touré 0
Danny Welbeck 0
Connor Wickham 1
Mike Williamson 0
Ashley Young 2

[IronCity]

That's a nice looking table. We ought to see if it meets with Appswah's exacting standards though ;)

Not as crisp as I would like to have it, needs more uummph, but a little trial and error will get it there in week 5.

[Bammers05]

Re read, Bummers.

My bad :blush:

[Ali_BWFC]

Jaasky only cost you -2. Just a bad week. You left 9 points in the leather seats.

I am going to wait to post the spreadsheet results until after the transfer window closes only to avoid confusing people with how much money they are holding onto - week 4 money is not available for spending right now.

CF Pijo Burro
Week 4
Michael Carrick 1
Andy Carroll 1
Chamakh 1
Ashley Cole 2
Michael Essien 0
William Gallas 0
Heurelho Gomes 0
Jordan Henderson 2
Stephen Hunt 2
Alan Hutton 1
Jussi Jääskeläinen -2
Phil Jagielka 0
Kenwyne Jones 1
James McCarthy 0
Jack Rodwell 2
Chris Smalling 3
Kolo Touré 0
Danny Welbeck 0
Connor Wickham 1
Mike Williamson 0
Ashley Young 2

Hang on... you didn't give him points for his whole squad did you?

BTW, how did I do this week? I know I should have points for Silva and Odemwinkle, perhaps Adam Johnson and maybe Assou Ekoto.

[IronCity]

Hang on... you didn't give him points for his whole squad did you?

BTW, how did I do this week? I know I should have points for Silva and Odemwinkle, perhaps Adam Johnson and maybe Assou Ekoto.

I was avoiding putting the stats database up so people don't get confused on how much money they have during this transfer window but look like I may since I know everyone is curious.

Ali - here ya go; you had 33 points and left 14 in the seats. Good picking. Ledley King is the only player you really missed out on

Player, Start (Y or N), Pts
Benoît Assou-Ekotto, Y, 6
Chris Baird, N, 0
Darren Bent, Y, 2
Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, N, 2
Damien Duff, Y, 2
Brede Hangeland, Y, 1
Stuart Holden, N, 0
Tim Howard, Y, 1
Adam Johnson, N, 2
Andy Johnson, N, 1
Ledley King, N, 6
Ivan Klasnić, Y, 2
Tomasz Kuszczak, N, 0
Danny Murphy, Y, 1
Ryan Nelsen, Y, 0
Peter Odemwingie, Y, 5
Darren Pratley, N, 1
Àngel Rangel, Y, 2
David Silva, Y, 11
Scott Sinclair, N, 2

I need to develop an efficieny index on how good we do as managers. Has to be better than reward points per player /total points per player I think.

[IronCity]

Thanks for all the kind words posted for me here and through PMs. I am as happy as you all are to be rolling forward. It sometimes takes a colony of birds to raise one young. Sminky lined the nest, PEM and Nifty incubated the egg, and I am here to feed the nestling. Thanks to all for staying in the flock.

Link to Week 4 player data posted below table^^^

[Ali_BWFC]

I was avoiding putting the stats database up so people don't get confused on how much money they have during this transfer window but look like I may since I know everyone is curious.

Ali - here ya go; you had 33 points and left 14 in the seats. Good picking. Ledley King is the only player you really missed out on

Player, Start (Y or N), Pts
Benoît Assou-Ekotto, Y, 6
Chris Baird, N, 0
Darren Bent, Y, 2
Diniyar Bilyaletdinov, N, 2
Damien Duff, Y, 2
Brede Hangeland, Y, 1
Stuart Holden, N, 0
Tim Howard, Y, 1
Adam Johnson, N, 2
Andy Johnson, N, 1
Ledley King, N, 6
Ivan Klasnić, Y, 2
Tomasz Kuszczak, N, 0
Danny Murphy, Y, 1
Ryan Nelsen, Y, 0
Peter Odemwingie, Y, 5
Darren Pratley, N, 1
Àngel Rangel, Y, 2
David Silva, Y, 11
Scott Sinclair, N, 2

I need to develop an efficieny index on how good we do as managers. Has to be better than reward points per player /total points per player I think.

Damn! It's hard to know when King is gonna play! I might have to take Nelsen out because Blackburn are doing shit.

[IronCity]

Damn! It's hard to know when King is gonna play! I might have to take Nelsen out because Blackburn are doing shit.

Too difficult to guess that one.I was even forced to double check L. King last night - driving home from work Neil Barnett, who semi-hosts are Sirius radio show in the U.S., said King hasn't played at all this year. But I see it was this weekend was his first insertion. I need to call in and tell Barnett what's up.

[Appswah]

That's a nice looking table. We ought to see if it meets with Appswah's exacting standards though ;)

It looks fucking shit tbh.....but I think thats due to me being 2nd from bottom. Very good work Iron mate!

[Ali_BWFC]

Too difficult to guess that one.I was even forced to double check L. King last night - driving home from work Neil Barnett, who semi-hosts are Sirius radio show in the U.S., said King hasn't played at all this year. But I see it was this weekend was his first insertion. I need to call in and tell Barnett what's up.

Yeah, King is very injury prone. He's a good defender but it's hard to know when he'll play. Usually he's in one game, out the next, so the chances are he won't play next week.

[PEM]

As long as i stay ahead of Team Rocket im all good :P

[IronCity]

I certainly did pick a bunch of thugs - Bardsley handed a 4 game suspension today. This follows the three game suspension for Gervinho.

[Hunter]

As long as i stay ahead of Team Rocket im all good :P

:lol:

Loving the league so far though. Once Member Wars finishes, I'll probably have a little more time to get some more FL updates for Team Rocket posted too, especially now Iron's got us all back on track.

As for Ledley King, he's just very unfortunate of course. A genuinely good player, quite like Woodgate, but just raped with injuries. I hear that it does indeed take a full week for his knees to recover from playing a game, this was a year or two ago, so I imagine it's only become worse too, which is a worrying thought. King doesn't train at all in the usual sense does he? I remember reading he spends all week in pools, doing specialist leg work as opposed to the football training the rest of the team does on a daily basis. I may be wrong, but I do remember reading this a while back.


@Iron, I had Gervinho in my FL team on fantasy.premierleague.com, but given how he got himself sent off, I transferred him immediately. :lol:

[Michu]

A few teething problems aside its coming together well. Next season we'll have a team of people working on this to ensure continuity.

[IronCity]

PESGaming should think about a web-application for fantasy; it seems like the bid-structure we have was a nicer addition compared to other games. I don't know how ESPN is conducted, they have an auction NFL and regular draft NFL versions but not sure about EPL. Biggest problem is that development of a web-application could cost a bit much to even consider. But the traffic to the site would be many orders of magnitude higher (if that is a goal to increase advertising dollars, etc).

[Michu]

It should be possible to create a macro/vba that can draw the statistics straight off the Telegraph Website. I've seen a similar one used for the Sun and its the most comprehensive spreadsheet I've ever seen in terms of work the formula's do.

[IronCity]

Downloadable spreadsheet and online view of player data located at links under league table are now updated to include recent tranfers and new budgets

[IronCity]

Gervinhoooooooooooooo

[IronCity]

Fresh Fish: 9 of 16 new transfers were included in starting lineups this week

http://www.contrast.ie/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fresh-fish-sold-here.jpg

[Hunter]

:lol:

Nice post man.

Of my 4 new signings, 2 are featuring in my team this week; Marc Wilson in defence and Franco Di Santo up front. :cool:

[Appswah]

Arteta scores woop.

edit:

Am I glad I didn't get Givet. He can be pretty decent at CB but he fucking blows when he's played out at left back.

[Bammers05]

Gervinhoooooooooooooo

Sooooooooong

OhwaitIlefthimouttoday :facepalm:

[Dragonfly]

I've got three defensive players from Blackburn. I'm just glad I didn't pick a single one of them.

[IronCity]

I love my fox soccer channel because they deliver so much EPL in the U.S. but I have to hand it to the broadcast on ESPN2 today. Of course it is all about the game itself but they are showing food in the concession stands, the blackburn protest before the game, etc. Venky's chicken and meat pies. ESPN delivers more of the game culture.

I think PEM collected some assist points from Ramsey on that Arteta goal. at least I think that is what I saw

Dragonfly: and I have that 4th defender in Salgado but never thought once of playing.

edit: blacburn scores again - glad I didn't have any arsenal defenders either.

[Cesc Fabregas]

Sooooooooong

OhwaitIlefthimouttoday :facepalm:

Be happy you did, with that own goal.

[Dragonfly]

edit: blacburn scores again - glad I didn't have any arsenal defenders either.

Sagna, but he was off for a couple of the goals, so I hope he only gets penalised for the goals he conceded when he was on.

[Michu]

Defenders in the Telegraph - unlike the Sun - only get penalised for goals conceded when they are on the pitch. Likewise if Arsenal were losing 2-0 and Sagna came on and the score remained the same he would get a part clean sheet (3 points)

[IronCity]

I think I may be having a bad week. Kuyt didn't play at all and Begovic, who has been rock solid as the #2 fantasy gk let two in and watched an own goal. And it is only half time. mmmmm. Need good Man U scoring to salvage the weekend.
edit:dammit - thought for sure Rio would start so sat Evans

[Ali_BWFC]

FML.... shit week for me. Leave Sinclair out - goal and assist. Leave Murphy out - goal. Put Klasnic in - sent off.

EDIT: At least King and Assou Ekotto shoyuld have got me some points.

[Michu]

FML.... shit week for me. Leave Sinclair out - goal and assist. Leave Murphy out - goal. Put Klasnic in - sent off.

Murphy got an assist as well Ali ... just saying ... :laugh:

[Ali_BWFC]

Murphy got an assist as well Ali ... just saying ... :laugh:

Does that even count as an assist?

[Michu]

Does that even count as an assist?

Its like Rooney's goal earlier, the ball may of hit Nani before going to Rooney but its still counted as a Key contribution.

[Ali_BWFC]

Its like Rooney's goal earlier, the ball may of hit Nani before going to Rooney but its still counted as a Key contribution.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :angry:

[Michu]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :angry:

I checked live scoring on the Telegraph ... it has Zamora's goal marked as assisted by Murphy :D

[IronCity]

Nifty may be beating us all for the week and he isn't even playing,

[Ali_BWFC]

I checked live scoring on the Telegraph ... it has Zamora's goal marked as assisted by Murphy :D

It was Dempsey who assisted it wasn't it????

Here's from the Beeb:

Zamora was given too much room as he was found by Dempsey on the edge of the box, and the England striker struck the ball cleanly as it sailed into the top corner.

[IronCity]

Week 5 table updated on front page of this thread.

[Michu]

It was Dempsey who assisted it wasn't it????

Here's from the Beeb:

Telegraph had a mare then. I'm sure they've corrected it.

[IronCity]

Dempsey is marked with a key contribution. Not sure if it is the one you are thinking about.

[Michu]

Nope, looks like the Telegraph got it wrong on live scoring but corrected it today.

[IronCity]

Hey now. I didn't see the end of the Man U game so only learned a few seconds ago that Hernandez could be out for weeks. that hurts my fantasy and real enjoyment of the weekend. dammit again.

[Bammers05]

Retained the all-important 6th place by a whisker this week.

[IronCity]

Week 6 award updated as well

[muscularmatt]

Why am I so shit? I hate my life.

[Phatmann]

Stay the course award, wahey! Has IronCity now officially taken over from Nifty in the running of this Fantasy Football now? If so, there's no need for Nifty to be a mod here now, is there?

[Hunter]

Stay the course award, wahey! Has IronCity now officially taken over from Nifty in the running of this Fantasy Football now? If so, there's no need for Nifty to be a mod here now, is there?

Indeed. I'll give you the honours brother.

[Ali_BWFC]

Christ, I'm surprised I've managed to hold onto 3rd!

[IronCity]

Christ, I'm surprised I've managed to hold onto 3rd!

so was I - I expected you to be 2nd.

[Michu]

I think a prize for last place is in order, a wooden spoon or the like. I'll see if I can get it personalised for the loser.

[Hunter]

I think a prize for last place is in order, a wooden spoon or the like. I'll see if I can get it personalised for the loser.

:lol:

That would be brilliant. With a piece of paper containing a special message tied to the spoon with an elastic band.

:situation:

[Ali_BWFC]

I think a prize for last place is in order, a wooden spoon or the like. I'll see if I can get it personalised for the loser.


Or you could just buy a wooden spoon and scratch "[insert name], you're shit" onto the handle with a knife :hmm:

[IronCity]

be aware it has to be a big enough spoon to fit the inscription of muscularmatt onto it

[IronCity]

Week 7 Table and awards updated on front page. Player data will be a little later.

[Appswah]

Oh man. Im soo fucked until January! Need some strikers!!

[Phatmann]

Haha, the weekly awards are a nice touch. Good work Iron.

[Ali_BWFC]

I'd like to dedicate this award to the lovely sound of my palm hitting my face :facepalm:

30 points!!!! SERIOUSLY WTFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!11! !!111!!!!

.... and breathe.

[IronCity]

just something to help you get a good, sound sleep tonight.

Matchweek 7 player updated online and within download spreadsheet

[IronCity]

I am thinking that CF Pijo Burro could be awarded points with Rodwell's red card being rescinded. Currently Rodwell is a -1 and it would bring him back to a 2

[Dragonfly]

I don't know if CUdH can take this pressure! We're showing how dependant we are on Dzeko and Rooney. I hope they can get their scoring boots on and Gerrard returns to being a world class player.

[Bammers05]

Lagging behind in The Race for 6th Place :(

[Hunter]

Lagging behind in The Race for 6th Place :(

:smug:

I'm over the moon with the leapfrog. I'll aim to get a Team Rocket update done for tonight too!

Keep up the awesome work Iron brother. :cool:

[IronCity]

So the EPL has the coming weekend off, but the following weekend will be the first round of the PESG Fantasy Cup (twinkie cup for short) for clubs not receiving first-round byes. Sminky will be making the draws maybe this weekend.

[Dragonfly]

Will there be a filmed draw at Sminky HQ?

[IronCity]

Unofficial Week 8 table and Twinkie Cup Brackets updated. These are unofficial because I haven't had time to re-check. I have business meetings from 3-5pm your UK time (cutting it close right now) and again 7:30-9:30 so I won't be able to get back to the data until after that.

I have posted the week 8 data online - check your team results and see if it jives with the table, and what you expect.

Week 8 awards tonight and official post of results.

[Cesc Fabregas]

Great week, Now 6th and closer than ever to 5th.

[Phatmann]

Take that Eggington ye knobheads! A potentially easy tie for Round 2 as well since I will be taking on bottom of the table Pijo Burro who I have managed to accelerate even further away from this gameweek. I'm coming for you Moaty!

[IronCity]

I didn't notice until this morning that when the bracket was set Friday but it basically was broke out of the hat into the top of the table on the left side and the bottom of the table on the right side. So no giant killer until the final.

where has ol' mmatt been at lately. I haven't seen him posting. I have to find an old post to see if he has been banned, lol:thud:

I also realized for the november fixture of round 2 that I need to establish a tie breaker. If I had played CUH this week we would have tied. Perhaps a playoff in the intervening week. yeah that will be it.

[Michu]

PESG Fantasy Football Table

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3790/week8table.jpg


Week 8 News:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6969/gibbaward.png


http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5470/bracket2n.jpg

Getting close at the top now, January Transfer window is going to be interesting *rubbing hands with expectant glee* (fnar fnar)

Also, you really ought to archive these awards in a thread somewhere Iron as they are top notch! :D

[IronCity]

PESG Fantasy Football Table updated with week 9 awards

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2519/week9table.jpg

Week 9 News: Two Awards for matchweek 9

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Nice Grouping Award given to Army of 1million for 5 straight weeks of 30pts or more. It may not be advancing table placement for the Egyptian owner but sure is not dropping any either
aictLD9VMRY

[IronCity]

downloadable spreadsheet added to table page

[Cesc Fabregas]

Just 1 point away from 5th. and I haven't noticed that I'm the most consistent manager in the game, who'd have thought it after my catastrophic first week. Now I have to make do without Bosingwa as well.

[IronCity]

you have the lowest Coefficient of variation (standard dev/mean)(sorry, I'm a stat head) which shows that consistency. RVP is cooking. Happy to have Gervinho serving him up because when the season started I guessed these guys were not going to work good together. I have noticed RVP expressing displeasure with Gervinho when he doesn't get the pass and Gervinho pushes a play out of bounds. I thought there was going to be some bad tension brewing but watched replays earlier this morning to see RVP giving Gervinho the "good job" point after one of Sunday's goals.

Anbhong alive for you as well, and Vorm of course

[IronCity]

PESG Fantasy Football Table

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/6791/week10table.jpg


Week 10 News: After two weeks of a stale table, week 10 brought climbers and fallers. Two Awards for matchweek 10

#1 George Jefferson "Movin on Up Award" given to the AFC Midtable Wanderers, Army of 1Mill, Team Rocket, and S.S Phatzio for climbing the leader boad this week. Ali finally got a piece of the pie-ie-ie-ieeee (Link to Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY))
http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/375899/movin-on-up.gif

#2 The Brady Bunch award given to S.S. Phatzio for rag-tagging his bunch together for an impressive 52-high point total fueled by a Ba hat trick
Here’s the story
of an owner named phatmann
who bid on two very lovely forwards
none of them had hair, like their mother
the youngest one was bald
till one day phatmann put them in his starting lineup
and he knew it was much more than a hunch
that this group would somehow score four goals
that’s the way they all became the Demba Bunch
the Demba Bunch, the Demba Bunch
That’s the way they became the Demba Bunch
(Link to Theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5StTXQofqs))
http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/377917/the-brayd-bunch.gif

[Appswah]

My best week so far and I still drop a place.

[Ali_BWFC]

Ooh. Awesome.

I actually had a pretty good week :)

[IronCity]

^I didn't expect that much of a turnover between #2 and #3. Good steady 2-6 point production from all of your starters.

Not sure what to do with Evans, seems like fergie has lost confidence with Rio but I know I will get burned.

Online Player Data Through Week 10 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdG5ERlAwXzhDblA0U1VFQXhnczh 2anc). Filter using top row of data

[Bammers05]

Starting to have to peer nervously behind me :(

N'Zogbia better start performing soon.

[Hunter]

Excellent gameweek. Delighted to be 'Movin' On Up' (genius), and fingers crossed I can jump above Army of 1 Million this weekend too. It's been quite a positive progression, and to now be just 1 point behind 5th place is quite motivating.

I'll get there!

[Phatmann]

Two awards for me this week! Now that I've dispatched of the woeful Raoul Moatdrid, Eggington Town are next on the list. Your days are numbered, Bammers.

[IronCity]

Excellent gameweek. Delighted to be 'Movin' On Up' (genius), and fingers crossed I can jump above Army of 1 Million this weekend too. It's been quite a positive progression, and to now be just 1 point behind 5th place is quite motivating.

I'll get there!

Now this has been a true backyard brawl. Team Rocket and Army of 1Mill sparring on the table week in and week out. Take a look at the cumulative points

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8341/armyvsrocket.jpg

[muscularmatt]

Am I still shit at this? If so, why?

[Phatmann]

Am I still shit at this? If so, why?
You are and it's because half of your team don't play.

[IronCity]

Am I still shit at this? If so, why?

You are and it's because half of your team don't play.

I think it just comes down to the team selected and not the management. For instance, Matt has captured 200 of his possible 297 points this year. I have captured 354 of my 454 points this year. Army 293 of 373. I think most of us have about the same ratio of captured and missed (around 77-78% of total collected). Seems to be all about the transfer period.

[Hunter]

There's been some fascinating stats tonight, thanks for these Iron.

I'd just like to say that I'm really absolutely loving the PESGaming Fantasy League. Every moment of it.

It's nice to see the FL back. It was so damn popular in it's heyday - we're talking 3 Divisions deep full of teams I believe at one point. So after a few years off, having it back, and in a slightly modified form, in full swing again is great.

[muscularmatt]

I still think if this was made real, and we actually had all those players in fantasy teams, mine would be the best.

[Bammers05]

Two awards for me this week! Now that I've dispatched of the woeful Raoul Moatdrid, Eggington Town are next on the list. Your days are numbered, Bammers.

My calendar agrees :folarm:

[Ali_BWFC]

Am I still shit at this? If so, why?

You need to change your team, you've not done so since September. Plus it doesn't help that you have a Bolton player in goal! :D

[IronCity]

who keeps going into that online database and scrambling it all up?

[Ali_BWFC]

who keeps going into that online database and scrambling it all up?

..... that might be me. I didn't think it'd save my sortings.

[IronCity]

- 3 points for you. or better yet, -1 table spot :devil:
I went in and locked the top row so shouldn't be a problem any more.

[Cesc Fabregas]

I'm in 5th now, awesome. Now I just gotta stay away from hunter. and great stats, shows how close everything's been. Now I'm hopefully gonna go from last to first, with another RVP hattrick. <3

[IronCity]

I was just looking seconds earlier when you posted and noticed they are playing the baggies and said to myself; RVP hat trick.

I need defensive help bad; too many injuries and too many bums. and the remaining, horrible fullback matchups.

[Michu]

My calendar agrees :folarm:

Oh that's terrible ... but I like it!! :laugh:

So, in terms of budgets, who has the big money ready to purchase the game changing players?

[IronCity]

money not only to buy but also to block

[Michu]

money not only to buy but also to block

Ah, buy up the talent and plonk it on the bench a la Milan circa 1990s?

[IronCity]

I am thinking we should delay our transfer window bidding until January 3rd or even a few days later. That way the early EPL moves we all expect to happen can occur and it moves it back off the holidays. thoughts everyone?

Also - the Twinkie Cup final should not be influenced by the transfer window.

I am thinking two-day bid period with some interstitial time off. Hypothetical example;
Monday-Tuesday bid (max player number to be decided), Wednesday day off and publish results...Thursday-Friday bid, Saturday publish results, Sunday off.....resume on monday. That way I don't get overwhelmed and everyone has a bit of a chance to follow easier.

Inter-team movement at any time in the window. thoughts again?

[muscularmatt]

Bolton player in goal

Yeah fuck you Ali. It's your fault.

[IronCity]

I was interested in the question are we bad in-season managers or bad auctioneers before the season began. I wanted to create a sophisticated solver to show the deviation between what we pick as managers for starting lineups each week and what the optimal pick would be based on points. Well this type of elaborate analysis will have to wait when I can find the time. I did, however, work a comparison between the average number of points per starter over the last 10 weeks at a position and the same for points per sitter.

This exercise did not produce the fruit I would have liked to see but I decided to post. I still believe it just shows we are doing a good job in selecting starting XI. You can see the relative difference between starters and sitters for each team. Bars are means, whiskers are standard deviation (e.g., you can see the wide variance for MMW's forwards as a result of Dzeko/Rooney party weekends).

It might show you where you need the most improvement as a manager (e.g., PEM's forwards or Phatmann's midfield). I added some negative value to the y-axis just to give the graphs some extra depth.

Yes = starter, No = sitter

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/3176/startergraph.jpg

[Phatmann]

The problem with my midfield is that they're all injured! Chung-Yong Lee, Wilshere and Cahill has now been injured on and off. It's a pain in the arse because if they were fit, they'd be decent point scorers.

[IronCity]

hmmmm, but what the graph shows is your MF sitters are scoring slightly more points on avg than your starters. That is the true utility of the exercise. I never verified the data but that was one of the few reversal of fortunes I saw in the information.

I also learned your keepers are doing quite good relative to everyone else. Although I probably didn't need this graph to tell me that, I have noticed you flipping between GKs rather adeptly.

I need to see who Skleptoe's defenders are after looking at graphs.

[IronCity]

btw, where did PEM dissapear to? - he was so engaged until just a few weeks ago

[Ali_BWFC]

It's quite amazing that I'd done so well... considering I only have 1 player from the "so called" top teams, albeit the best player in the league, and not counting Kuszack because he hasn't even played.

EDIT: Well... 2 player from the top teams, although the other one - Johnson isn't a consistent starter.

[Phatmann]

hmmmm, but what the graph shows is your MF sitters are scoring slightly more points on avg than your starters. That is the true utility of the exercise. I never verified the data but that was one of the few reversal of fortunes I saw in the information.

I also learned your keepers are doing quite good relative to everyone else. Although I probably didn't need this graph to tell me that, I have noticed you flipping between GKs rather adeptly.

I need to see who Skleptoe's defenders are after looking at graphs.
That's strange because I've only had 5 midfielders to choose from all season as Lee and Wilshere haven't played at all. Are some of my other players considered midfielders maybe? Steven Reid could be considered a midfielder by some. Are you able to share the raw data? I'm interested in seeing which of my midfielders are gaining points over the weeks and which are duds.

[IronCity]

Sure, I just stacked the weekly data into one column to create those graph of mean values but you can always see the individual player data on the front page of this thread.

Download Player Data Through Week 10 Here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/wr3b4rclc4d1ooj/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_10.xls)

Online Player Data Through Week 10 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdG5ERlAwXzhDblA0U1VFQXhnczh 2anc). Filter using top row of data

[Phatmann]

Sure, I just stacked the weekly data into one column to create those graph of mean values but you can always see the individual player data on the front page of this thread.

Download Player Data Through Week 10 Here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/wr3b4rclc4d1ooj/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_10.xls)

Online Player Data Through Week 10 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdG5ERlAwXzhDblA0U1VFQXhnczh 2anc). Filter using top row of data
It seems my biggest mistake was not putting Osman in earlier as he got 7 points in week 4 and 5 in week 5. Good work on the spreadsheet by the way. It's informative and easy to follow. It will be useful when it comes to the transfer window in January.

[IronCity]

I must give credit to Nifty who originated that sheet. I just adopted it later.

[IronCity]

Rodwell nets one for CF Pijo Burro in the early game. No other scoring points for club's players.

Week 11 starters (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdFVaa29TRW1SZEc1dGc1VnRySUJ Ba2c). Filter using top row of data

[Phatmann]

Rodwell nets one for CF Pijo Burro in the early game. No other scoring points for club's players.

Week 11 starters (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdFVaa29TRW1SZEc1dGc1VnRySUJ Ba2c). Filter using top row of data
Yeah, don't rub it in that Baines, Osman, Steven Taylor and Ba did bugger all Iron! :D

[IronCity]

PESG Fantasy Football Table

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2849/week11table.jpg

Week 11 News: Three clubs racked up 42 points for high flying offensive week. Midtable Med. Wanderers loses 27 points while the long forgotten Klasnic and Rangel keep the leather seats warm. Two Awards for matchweek 11

Online Player Data Through Week 11 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdHhCaXhLU1NrS2l5U0pxamNyOVk tRHc). Filter using top row of data



#1:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/741/sniffingglueaward.jpg


#2: Full Clip award given to Dragonfly's CUH. No matter what we throw at him he just keeps firing without having to reload.
Y7pxvREGaXM

[Ali_BWFC]

To think, with some better team selection, and a bit more luck, I could have been top by now.

[Cesc Fabregas]

I was out of town so I couldn't change my team, luckily that didn't have too bad of an effect on me.

[Hunter]

I was out of town so I couldn't change my team, unluckily that did have too bad of an effect on me.

:lol:

[IronCity]

I was out of town so I couldn't change my team, luckily that didn't have too bad of an effect on me.

In fact, the only major change I see you sometimes make is playing Heitinga - and he would have cost you -3 this past week.

[Ali_BWFC]

Iron, I think one of the admins (probably Hunter... that crafty bastard) has edited my team for last weekend, and all my subsequent posts about it.... since I clearly put Klasnic and Rangel in my team. I should hope that you deal with this blatant cheating accordingly. :folarm:

[Hunter]

Pretty gutted with the slip in form from Team Rocket this week. I'm going to have to have a quiet word with the squad I think.

Consistent isn't exactly a word I'd use to describe my team this season.

[IronCity]

Ali_Fwc: Iron, I think one of the admins (probably Hunter... that crafty bastard) has edited my team for last weekend, and all my subsequent posts about it.... since I clearly put Klasnic and Rangel in my team. I should hope that you deal with this blatant cheating accordingly.


I follow you Ali. But I am in the U.S. so it is probably easier to take 24 points off of him rather than award you 24 since you are on the top bunk. Now if we were in Germany, I would have to give you points, but I am in the U.S. Its regulations.

Sound Clip (http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Stripes&quote=makebunk.txt&file=makebunk.wav)

[Ali_BWFC]

I follow you Ali. But I am in the U.S. so it is probably easier to take 24 points off of him rather than award you 24 since you are on the top bunk. Now if we were in Germany, I would have to give you points, but I am in the U.S. Its regulations.

Sound Clip (http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Stripes&quote=makebunk.txt&file=makebunk.wav)

He also edited out Andy Johnson that time he got a hattrick. :shifty:

It's a goddamn conspiracy I tell ye!

[IronCity]

I have also noticed him editing post titles today so we are on to him. I have delivered a malware key logger under the guise of "hot prolapse porn videos" to his email that I know he could not resist so we will be able to monitor his activity from this point forward.

[IronCity]

Week 12 Table
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2913/week12table.jpg

Week 12 Table News Impressive showing by SS Phatzio with 46 points that allow the hop over Raoul Moatrid in the standings. The return of Nifty to action, along with a 38pt week allowed an impressive jump over Army of 1mill.

Twinkie Cup results: one tie
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9615/bracket3m.jpg
Winner decided between FC Planet Express and CUH by playoff; highest score from November 26th match weekend advances.

Week 12 Awards

Five-point Palm Exploding Heart Technique awarded to Midtable Med. Wanderers, SS Phatzio, and Skleptoe&Son for eliminating their opponents with the death blow this weekend.
http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/420699/five-point-palm.gif


How do I look?.....You look ready award to the clubs that have fallen from the twinkie cup; Iron City United, CF Pijo Burro, and Raoul Moatrid.

http://gifninja.com/animatedgifs/420702/look-ready.gif

Online Player Data Through Week 12 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdEtjb2NFRkUxUEFzV1lsdjJLUGN DWUE). Filter using top row of data

[Hunter]

Matt earned 5 points this gameweek? :laugh:

[Ali_BWFC]

Pijo Burro :facepalm:

I think even Steve Kean is in a more stable position than Matt!

[muscularmatt]

WHAT THE HAAYUL????

I think I need to tinker with my formation.

[IronCity]

I had to double take on that, thought for sure I made a mistake, but couldn't help him out.

note that we have a tie in the cup to be decided by next week's score.

[Bammers05]

:lmao: at Pijo Burro

[Dragonfly]

I had to double take on that, thought for sure I made a mistake, but couldn't help him out.

note that we have a tie in the cup to be decided by next week's score.

Cup replay matches are nuisance. I might just play my kids.

[IronCity]

and if ties again this coming weekend, we have one more weekend after that for another playoff before the next round starts. If that ties we will have to go with goalkeeper points for that week, if that fails, goalkeeper points for all three weeks.

just setting the framework up early so there is no confusion.

Online Player Data Through Week 12 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdEtjb2NFRkUxUEFzV1lsdjJLUGN DWUE). Filter using top row of data

[Dragonfly]

and if ties again this coming weekend, we have one more weekend after that for another playoff before the next round starts. If that ties we will have to go with goalkeeper points for that week, if that fails, goalkeeper points for all three weeks.

Hmm. In real life, I think they'd go for goals scored. In which case, I think if it goes to a tie, we should look at how many goals our strikers scored. :shifty:

[Cesc Fabregas]

Horrible week. Fucking squad played like shit. I am not pleased.

[IronCity]

Hmm. In real life, I think they'd go for goals scored. In which case, I think if it goes to a tie, we should look at how many goals our strikers scored. :shifty:

I know, the only reason I chose this is because it is a singular value. I don't have anything against goals scored but then it depends too much on playing 3 or 4 defensemen. Someone should not be punished for scoring the same points but with a different alignment. Keeps are universal.

[Michu]

Christ on a bike, Matt scored 5 points? Was that just appearance points as well? Blimey, non existent defence, faltering strike force ... just like watching Wolves.

[Nifty1Pound50]

Skleptoe are gonna piss this cup.

[Michu]

Yeehaw boy that's summm fightin' talk right there!

[Nifty1Pound50]

Well, we are.

S. S. Phatzio have used up their allocation of good gameweek scores in two of their last three weeks. They're dreadful other than that. Which basically means a final place beckons.

By the time the final is played, I presume the transfer window will have come and gone, which means I'll flex my financial muscles and make use of my footballing nouse to ensure that something untoward happens to all of Dragonfly and Ali's respective squads.

Plus, Chris Eagles.

[IronCity]

bad news Nifty, transfer window won't open until the cup is over. January 2nd final.

Phats is a tricky one - my guess that weekend will come down to the goalkeeper he chooses. there, I put the pressure on him.

[Nifty1Pound50]

In which case Jerome Thomas is going to have to do the damage.

[Phatmann]

I've had a look at the gameweek that the points will be taken from and I'm confident that I can get a decent enough tally to win the tie, as long as injuries don't take any more of my players away from me.

[Michu]

Demba Ba is bound to hit the net a few more times Mike, he's your ace in the pack.

[Nifty1Pound50]

I've had a look at the gameweek that the points will be taken from and I'm confident that I can get a decent enough tally to win the tie, as long as injuries don't take any more of my players away from me.

I've had a look at the opposition I've been drawn against on that gameweek and I'm confident that I can get a decent enough tally to win the tie. :mellow:

[Phatmann]

I think he might have used up all his goalscoring prowess a little too early. I fear the inevitable goal drought is due soon but he is certainly talented enough to sustain this form at least for this season. Even though he didn't score for me on the weekend he did manage an assist which is a nice bonus.

Nifty, by the time the gameweek comes around you'll realise how much of a threat I am to your team. By then I can guarantee that I'll be right behind you in the league.

[Nifty1Pound50]

Nifty, by the time the gameweek comes around you'll realise how much of a threat I am to your team. By then I can guarantee that I'll be right behind you in the league.

This is an exceptionally alarming lack of banter. The kind you would expect from someone who means not what they claim.

[Michu]

Have you seen Ba's stats since he joined the Premier League Mike, 15 goals in 17 Premier League starts in 2011. Impressive stuff. He'll contribute assists even if he's not scoring such is his determination.

[Phatmann]

This is an exceptionally alarming lack of banter. The kind you would expect from someone who means not what they claim.
Or from someone who realises that if either of his strikers gets injured his best option is Jermaine Beckford...of Leicester City. :mellow:

[Nifty1Pound50]

Or from someone who realises that if either of his strikers gets injured his best option is Jermaine Beckford...of Leicester City. :mellow:

It's not only rosy in the Sklep, either.

Between my two goalkeepers, they have played one game, amassing -2 points.

[Michu]

It's not only rosy in the Sklep, either.

Between my two goalkeepers, they have played one game, amassing -2 points.

Bloody hell, that's some frugal goalkeeping :D

Who have you got?

Don't forget Mike (somehow!) conned ... I mean bartered ... with Matt into purchasing Gomes!

[Hunter]

It's not only rosy in the Sklep, either.

Between my two goalkeepers, they have played one game, amassing -2 points.

:lmao:

That is brilliant.

I was fortunate enough to capture Pepe Reina, so despite my second choice Sorensen rarely playing, I can always count on Reina to start, and quite often keep a clean sheet thankfully. He has solely earned 37 points this season so far.

The surprise signing though has to be Danny Graham, who has accumulated 41 points in the season thus far - only 7 points behind the magnificent Luis Suarez's contribution. Quite an impressive figure for an overlooked £3m signing.

[Michu]

You must feel a bit 'burnt' over Suarez Thomas, £18m wasn't it? If he gets a hefty ban that's a large investment 'hedged'.

[Bammers05]

The following players in my squad have seriously under-achieved thus far: Arshavin, N'Zogbia, Rodallega, Alex, Anelka

Jose Enrique and Younes Kaboul are turning out to be great signings though :nath:

Oh, and I have two goalkeepers who play every week :troll:

[Michu]

The following players in my squad have seriously under-achieved thus far: Arshavin, N'Zogbia, Rodallega, Alex, Anelka

Jose Enrique and Younes Kaboul are turning out to be great signings though :nath:

Oh, and I have two goalkeepers who play every week :troll:

I was only talking about N'Zogbia today, bloody hell how bad has he been since his move to Villa?!? I think he'll be off in January, he's a big fish little pond player.

Who's got Larsson, Richards, Warnock or Walker? These are players excelling this season statistically. Especially Warnock, 30+ points already in a ropey Villa side.

[IronCity]

I was only talking about N'Zogbia today, bloody hell how bad has he been since his move to Villa?!? I think he'll be off in January, he's a big fish little pond player.

Who's got Larsson, Richards, Warnock or Walker? These are players excelling this season statistically. Especially Warnock, 30+ points already in a ropey Villa side.

Larssson-Army, Richards - Phatmann, Warnock - PEM, Walker - Skleptoe

Where has PEM been?

[IronCity]

You must feel a bit 'burnt' over Suarez Thomas, £18m wasn't it? If he gets a hefty ban that's a large investment 'hedged'.

not as much as I feel about Kuyt at 15m

[Nifty1Pound50]

not as much as I feel about Kuyt at 15m

Adam Bogdan has cost me £1.5m for every -1 point he has scored.

[Phatmann]

Larssson-Army, Richards - Phatmann, Warnock - PEM, Walker - Skleptoe

Where has PEM been?
This is news to me. I'll happily include him in my next line-up but I doubt Dragonfly would be too happy!

Nifty, it's your own fault for thinking that Bogdan would be worth signing. I initially bought Jaaskelainen and Friedel as back-ups to De Gea then sold them for a profit plus I brought in Hennessey. All first team players who will play more or less every week. Two players I have been very unfortunate with though are Wilshere and Chung-Yong Lee, both injured just before the season started. Both would have been invaluable points scorers throughout the season had they been fit but alas they are now useless to me.

[muscularmatt]

Yeah I want a refund on Jaaskelainen. Nobody told me Bolton were going to revert to being shit again this year.

[Ali_BWFC]

Yeah I want a refund on Jaaskelainen. Nobody told me Bolton were going to revert to being shit again this year.

Well we started reverting back to being shit after we got battered by Stoke at Wembley. You should have seen the warning signs.

[muscularmatt]

I hold you personally accountable for this Alistair. And everything else that's gone wrong in my life.

[PEM]

Looking back at this now and I really should've started Mario a few times :z

[IronCity]

Week 13 Table weekly points and total points
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6752/xmastable.jpg

Week 13 News A shocking upset as CUH Eliminated in Playoff Match with FC Planet Express. Another impressive showing by SS Phatzio with 52 points, the giant remains awake. Team Rocket makes way for SS Phatzio and Eggington Town. Army of 1m remain impressive in their climb.

Week 13 Awards
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4337/week13award.jpg

Twinkie Cup results: tie resolved
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2060/bracket3a.jpg

Week 13 table
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2108/week13table.jpg

Online Player Data Through Week 13 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdHV3ZVFWN0xIelVVMExQX1pXN0x BN1E). Filter using top row of data

[Phatmann]

Will we be getting Christmas themed tables for the next month? It seems that my team has exceeded my expectations after I told Nifty that I would be one place behind him by the time we played our cup tie but I'm already there 3 weeks early! 3 of the last 4 gameweeks I have had the top score and in the week I didn't, I had the lowest score!

[Hunter]

Excellent work Iron.

As soon as I seen that this thread had a new post in by yourself Iron, I just said to myself "hit me with the bad news, let's get it over with". :lol:

I really need to turn this around. Needless to say I would have only dropped one place if I'd have played the goal-scoring Holt and Di Santo.

Expect a Team Rocket press release in the coming days...

[Ali_BWFC]

Hmmm not actually as bad as I expected this week, though I still get the feeling that I'm punching above my weight. I need more consistent quality in my team. Silva is the only person I can rely on to give me points week in week out. I've already started mentally drafting up my January wish list.

[IronCity]

look out for Army. He patiently spun the tires for a while but released the clutch

[IronCity]

Looking back at this now and I really should've started Mario a few times :z

it seems like you were awol for a few weeks, so not sure if you saw this;

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4025/balov.jpg

[IronCity]

Week 14 Table: Eleven Days of Xmas
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2329/11daysofxmassmall.jpg
Click here for larger version (http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6295/11daysofxmas.jpg)

Week 14 Table
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9749/week14table.jpg


Week 14 News Iron City United somehow retained the number 4 spot with Army of 1m biting at their heels. Team Rocket gets elevated one spot by jumping over Eggington Town. The domination of CUH is relentless while Midtable Med. Wanderers create some distance from much of the pack

Week 14 Award: Big Ass-Titays award to Matthew Connolly for the high score of 48 points this week.
http://nickswitzer.net/wp-content/uploads/dave-chappelle-tron.jpg


Online Player Data Through Week 14 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdGRBV1JmNDR1S2pkRTI3SlNPM0U wUGc). Filter using top row of data

Download Week 14 Player Data including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/n2nom2mkwqk808r/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_14.xls)

[Ali_BWFC]

So does Odemwingie not get points for the assist then? Because he blatantly did assist it.... it's even in the match report on BBC. I know it's probably only an extra 2 or 3 points.... but the gap is forever closing and I need to fight for every point.

[Nifty1Pound50]

The eleven days of Christmas is truly excellent.

As was my score.

Phats - get back in your basket with your talk of overtaking me.

[IronCity]

I can't find record of Odemwinkles assist at other sites either. I just learned this morning that Steven Fletcher had two goals. My word. I am going to have a nervous breakdown.

[Cesc Fabregas]

I'm biting at Iron's heels, but looking at it from another point of view, Nifty's biting at my heels. Really tough, Now Team Rocket and Eggington have realized not to mess with the Army, you two are next. Watch out for a Van Persie hattrick against Everton or an Everton clean sheet for Tony Hibbert and Heitinga. If I had got the 4 clean sheets this week I'd be well ahead of Iron. We're really having some competition now and Dragonfly could be down from first place in a month or two. Robin injury would ruin my season as well as Arsenal's, his goal and two assists were crucial in me not relinquishing my lead on Nifty as well as keeping close to Iron.

[Phatmann]

The eleven days of Christmas is truly excellent.

As was my score.

Phats - get back in your basket with your talk of overtaking me.
Ha, I really don't know what to say about my team. They fluctuate between the highest and lowest scores every week. However, next week is the Cup game and I'm sure my team will show great bouncebackability and spirit which will end your chances of Cup glory once and for all.

Iron, great work as usual with the update this week. I wasn't sure if you'd continue with the Christmas theme but you have and it's been done well.

[Hunter]

Excellent work Iron. Really, I want to thank you. Every week, the table is updated, and every week there seems to be a nice little brief report, with some fancy artistry along with a comical award - of which, this week definitely made me laugh (Chappelle fan here). I wasn't expecting the 'Big Ass-Titays Award". :lol:

Show it with pride Nifty brother.

[Ali_BWFC]

I can't find record of Odemwinkles assist at other sites either. I just learned this morning that Steven Fletcher had two goals. My word. I am going to have a nervous breakdown.

Pfffft, that's odd.... because it did happen.

[Michu]

Pfffft, that's odd.... because it did happen.

I've just checked. Nothing in terms of Key Contribution for Odemwingie or even Morrison who played Long in.

[IronCity]

thanks for all the compliments given above fellas. I have played NFL fantasy for over a decade but never have had as much fun as this league. NFL fantasy has gotten so stale by comparison. No chatter or banter anymore in my old hat leagues (and there is money involved).

I watched that Long goal, did a defender get his leg on that Odemwinkle's pass to nullify the assist? That is the only reason I can think of. I read the ESPN gamecast description that is written live and I didn't see a mention of it the assist all - they always annotate a goal description with an assist. Very odd however.

Now if I could only trade my team in for PEM's. I am definetly on the way down, and PEM only using 3 gears of his 5 speed. Chicharito out for 5 or more weeks, barely enough production from the rest of the Man U players on my squad. If PEM was paying attention he could be vying for the #1 spot. Shame to have all that talent go to waste.

[Nifty1Pound50]

From my point of view, you really stepped up here.

I half-stepped up to take it on from Sminky, but then life got in the way. I was putting in serious hours to this and then stopped suddenly.

But rather than let it die, you made it happen. That is big time.

I'll say this now - next season, we get 20 people in the league. Easy. The year after? Two divisions. Promotions. Relegations. Cups that both division participate in.

Squad usage and bidding with 20 people all going for squads would be excellent.

Maybe if things calm down in my professional life after the end of the year, I'll be able to get back on the organisational horse and help out more. I miss my spreadsheet. :folarm:

[Hunter]

Nifty's on the money.

Now we've a tried and tested, working structure in place, the only way is up. It's been really quite a brilliant forum year, with even older members returning. The whole site (forum included), is on the verge of a mass design update, and with word of mouth, I can easily see the PESGaming Fantasy League developing wonderfully.

There's great potential in this, and I think we all feel it. It's the personalisation I think that really makes this league what it is. Team Rocket is my baby, and I've even named my PES 2012 ML team that name, along with similar kits. Just goes to show the impact the Fantasy League is having!

[Michu]

I'm really pleased how its evolved, its even better than I hoped but that is down to the great work of Nifty and now IronCity. Top work guys.

[Dragonfly]

Top work, Iron. You'll always get compliments from me, as long as I see my team on the top of the table.

[Ali_BWFC]

Nifty's on the money.

Now we've a tried and tested, working structure in place, the only way is up. It's been really quite a brilliant forum year, with even older members returning. The whole site (forum included), is on the verge of a mass design update, and with word of mouth, I can easily see the PESGaming Fantasy League developing wonderfully.

There's great potential in this, and I think we all feel it. It's the personalisation I think that really makes this league what it is. Team Rocket is my baby, and I've even named my PES 2012 ML team that name, along with similar kits. Just goes to show the impact the Fantasy League is having!

Too right. It's much more immersive than the official ones, because this is MY team. Nobody else has it. In the official ones, 1000 people could have Aguero etc, so you lose the individuality.

When it comes to match days, my first thought is "I hope Bolton don't do shit", my second thought is on my fantasy team.

[IronCity]

Its odd that the EPL fantasy games all work as Alistair mentions above. Before Sminky put the call out here I was checking them all out because I wanted to play EPL fantasy and all were of the shared player format. Never liked that style for NFL but NFL fantasy is almost always a 'my team' approach with drafts or auctions for players and ESPN.com is the king of it in the U.S. so I was shocked, dissapointed that ESPN EPL wasn't this format as well. The principal gain of a espn server is the data management.

I wish I was a software developer because there is money to be made in creating a 'my team' format application for football. I had mentioned months ago that PESgaming could bring in a lot of customers with a customized software app.

[Nifty1Pound50]

Its odd that the EPL fantasy games all work as Alistair mentions above. Before Sminky put the call out here I was checking them all out because I wanted to play EPL fantasy and all were of the shared player format. Never liked that style for NFL but NFL fantasy is almost always a 'my team' approach with drafts or auctions for players and ESPN.com is the king of it in the U.S. so I was shocked, dissapointed that ESPN EPL wasn't this format as well. The principal gain of a espn server is the data management.

I wish I was a software developer because there is money to be made in creating a 'my team' format application for football. I had mentioned months ago that PESgaming could bring in a lot of customers with a customized software app.

Then let's get it done.

Whilst I was in the process of putting together the original player spreadsheet, I was always in the back of my mind thinking, "I'd love to run a fantasy football website." Obviously to put the hours in it would have to have a solid return.

Regarding the main talking point - there are games around that offer a unique squad approach; www.fantasyleague.com offer a "Professional" option which is just this, I believe. The Times offer something similar, too, I think. Actually, a couple of guys at my local pub run their own game (much like we are doing) with an auction system conducted a couple of nights per week in the boozer pre-season.

The thing is, these games work on the principle that you need a minimum of X participants to make it worthwhile (otherwise there's no competitive element to bidding etc). Because, for many, organising a large enough group to make the logistics work is difficult, this format becomes marginalised.

Those that take the time to offer this type of game tend to have it as a supplement to the 'classic' style, whereby you have a budget and can pick anyone you want (without being restricted by who someone else picks).

In all seriousness, if there is interest in this idea - I would be more than happy to try and give it a more permanent home next season. Threads and posts on a forum are OK - but a website would be the business. I've got reasonable web design skills (I'm webmaster for two sites), but I don't have the knowledge at a database-coding level, in all honesty. That being said, I've got until about June/July to learn. :smug:

[IronCity]

^I think the coding can get complicated but obviously not impossible. I know people that can do it but they would be expensive (their rate is $1,000/day and they come cheap). An app like a fantasy football site could take 4 or 5 days minimum. However in this day and age it is just mastery of sql databases and code language. For the latter, google open source codes provide a nice plug and play for a lot of applications. Sticking this app into a wordpress type webpage is a snap. Creating a phone app version would be another 4 or 5 days. I am contracting some folks out for this type of activity for our work so I am engrossed in it now; not the coding, I don't do that so hired someone. But then, getting a source for the football data would cost money - most of the current sites likely pay a fee to the same service data provider.

If there are sites like the one you mention that have "my club" football then it is always better to climb in the wheel rather than try to re-invent it. I can talk to these contractors and see if there are any shortcuts in the process they can suggest. They are good with "grab this prefabricated app and that prefab app" to do the job

[IronCity]

Week 15 Table: PESGaming Fantasty Football Album: Breakfast With Santa
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Week 15 Table
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Week 15 News Army of 1 million steal #3 spot with 5-man defensive line. S.S. Phatzio continue a dominating several weeks with an amazing 59 points (no that is not a NBA halftime score); the highest single week point total for any club this season. Team Rocket eclipses personal club-best week with 47 pts.

Week 15 Award:
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Online Player Data Through Week 15 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdDQyeWRWLU1CSlpsRjJsc21BRk1 lSUE). Filter using top row of data

[Dragonfly]

S.S. Phatzio continue a dominating several weeks with an amazing 59 points (no that is not a NBA halftime score); the highest single week point total for any club this season.

I thought I got 62 points early on in the season. I think it was the week when Rooney and Dzeko both scored shit loads of goals.

[Cesc Fabregas]

Kills me that I could have done better if I had put Djourou over santos. Remember that I'm the one who started the 5-man back lines, people.

[Dragonfly]

Kills me that I could have done better if I had put Djourou over santos. Remember that I'm the one who started the 5-man back lines, people.

If we're making claims, you'll actually find I first brought up the idea of a 5-man defence. :folarm:

[IronCity]

and Dragonfly was partially right - he did have the single week highest score, but not 62pts.....66pts, week 3.

[IronCity]

Reminder
Twinkie Cup resumes December 17th: Semifinal
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[IronCity]

Also - everyone note the matchweek fixtures

Matchweek 16 = Saturday Dec 17 / Sunday Dec 18

Matchweek 17 = Tuesday Dec 20 through Thursday Dec 21
--be sure to get lineup changes before 5pm Tues, the 20th

Matchweek 18 = Dec 26 and Dec 27

[IronCity]

Twinkie Cup Semifinal Decided: SS Phatzio and MMW advance for January 2 Final
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Week 16 Table
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Week 16 News Radical shift in table dynamics this week and Log Jam: Six teams sitting tight from the #3 to the #8 spot following an incredible climb to the top by SS Phatzio. Team Rocket being shot to the moon by climbing 2 spots with an advance to the #6 slot.

Week 16 Awards: Three this week

Award #1: All Growns Up award given to Phat Mikey for his amazing climb into the 3rd spot on the table, and his advance to the final of the Twinkie Cup
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Award #2 & #3
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Online Player Data Through Week 16 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdEhZb19ORDF2UGZPZVk5T3JEVXl sNGc). Filter using top row of data



also - read the post one above

[IronCity]

Online Player Data Through Week 16 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdEhZb19ORDF2UGZPZVk5T3JEVXl sNGc). Filter using top row of data

[Nifty1Pound50]

Thought me and Phatzio's cup semi-final would've been tighter than that.

I think a couple of ill-timed tackles cost me some points that I couldn't afford to lose and my midfield was, again, non-existent.

Solid defence as has been the case a few times, but ultimately a disappointing week. Now nearing the bottom of the pile. January should come just in time for me to still be in touch, I hope.

Plus, I wrote an automatic +300 point bonus into the rules for Skleptoe & Son at the season's end whilst I was in charge.

[Hunter]

Wow!

Team Rocket fly up two more spots this week, along with the one last week! Talk about progress. This is undoubtedly my best run of form thus far this season. Three weeks in a row with points totalling over 40 each week. If the next couple of days go in my favour, I could reach the 3rd spot.

Damn. I think I've finally found my structure with Team Rocket. It's only taken me just over 3 months. :lol:

[Ali_BWFC]

Should be a close battle for the Cup. Could go either way.

It's funny, you look at some of the teams doing well, and some of them don't have a lot of outstanding players. I mean, I've only got Silva who you'd class as a top class player. Phats doesn't really have any in his team, but they're all pretty much guaranteed first team players - so that's pretty much 22 points each week as a base value. Plus it helps when you have a half decent goalscorer.

[Phatmann]

Thought me and Phatzio's cup semi-final would've been tighter than that.

I think a couple of ill-timed tackles cost me some points that I couldn't afford to lose and my midfield was, again, non-existent.

Solid defence as has been the case a few times, but ultimately a disappointing week. Now nearing the bottom of the pile. January should come just in time for me to still be in touch, I hope.

Plus, I wrote an automatic +300 point bonus into the rules for Skleptoe & Son at the season's end whilst I was in charge.
Too bad you didn't stick an automatic point bonus in for the semi-finals of the Twinkie Cup eh? You could've taken it if Thomas and Eagles had started in their respective matches but you really need to sort yourself out with a goalie.

[Ali_BWFC]

Whatd does Iron mean when he keeps saying "Filter using top row of data"?

[IronCity]

you can filter the data for your team by hitting the little down arrow for Team so you can weed out every other players data if you want to. Quicker than a sort because after a sort you still have to scroll to find your team.

[IronCity]

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Week 17 Table
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Week 17 News No change in table positions this week following the chaos from last week. Very even scores highlighted by Bammers high score of 44pts.

Week 17 Award: Backheel Award given to Raoul Moatrid for celebration of their consistent use of Dmitar Berbatov in the starting lineup,despite the odds, that finally paid off this week with a classy goal
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Online Player Data Through Week 17 Here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdHpia2hFdUJuRlNVOUxtblBHbHZ fTGc). Filter using top row of data to view select teams data.

[IronCity]

running late in getting on the road for a Christmas holiday in Pittsburgh. The missus is tapping her foot at the door right now. Good tidings to all; I likely will not be able to check in again until Tuesday.

I used a different computer for the table this week, so had to wrestle with powerpoint to even get that. No arrows, but no changes so easier for me to skip that feature this week.

Peace on Earth, Good Will to Men (and women and animals)

[Appswah]

Good work man. Have a good Christmas.

[Ali_BWFC]

Fuck! There really isn't much in it now between myself and the people below.

Phats and Cesc are consistently gaining more points than me each wek, they're bound to overtake soon enough.

Have a nice Christmas Iron!

[IronCity]

Week 18 Table
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Week 18 News Army of 1 Million yields one seat to Iron City United with a surprising 17pt week. He danced with Team Rocket and now dancing with United. Speaking of Team Rocket, they dropped one spot to the omnipresent FC Planet Express. SS Phatzio remain on fire.

Week 18: Two Awards

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[IronCity]

This is what I have for current budgets (in million pound sterling)

Club Univ. de Hounslow 56.3
Midtable Med. Wanderers 75.2
S. S. Phatzio 71.1
Iron City United 48.1
Army of 1 Million 78.0
FC Planet Express 75.0
Team Rocket 56.8
Skleptoe & Son 85.0
Eggington Town 64.6
Raoul Moatdrid 45.4
CF Pijo Burro 42.4

Emerton refund in place for Skleptoe&Son
Beckford refund in place for SS Phatzio

Download Player Data through week 18 including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jr56j73af3pf0z4/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_18.xls)

[Ali_BWFC]

I can't wait until Demba Ba fucks off to Africa for the African Nations Cup!

[IronCity]

Is money going to carry over to next year? The most basic question should we be spending away our budgets this transfer period and go for broke?

[IronCity]

Looking at the fixtures carefully, it is important for me to mention that the twinkie cup matchweek is spread over Jan 2, 3, & 4.

[Bammers05]

18 :lol: :facepalm:

[Cesc Fabregas]

18 :lol: :facepalm:

17 :pinderpalm:

[IronCity]

Week 19 Table
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Week 19 News A mighty giant has a bad stint with CUH flubbing a 10pt week while keeping 36 points in the seats. Army of 1 Million regains #4 spot over Iron City United. Team Rocket on the March and SS. Phatzio just won't stop.

Week 1\98: Two Awards

Kink in the Armor award given to Dragonfly for his, out of character, 10pt weekend
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Pai Mei's 10-inch schlong award given to Ali and Apps for sharing the 2nd high score of the weekend with 35pts.
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Download Player Data through week 19 including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/0k74vsdcu2937iv/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_19.xls)

[IronCity]

I am still working out the bidding process - patience, not yet.

you guys know you can toggle through the tabs at the bottom of that downloadable spreadsheet to see your individual team pages, roster, and account balance. I will post full bidding level balances in a little bit.

[Ali_BWFC]

Pai Mei's 10-inch schlong award given to Ali and Apps for sharing the 2nd highest score of the weekend with 35pts.


Fixed. :)

[IronCity]

you're right; missed the fact that Army acutally should have Pai Mei's10inch schlong award.

balances
Club Univ. de Hounslow 57.3
Midtable Med. Wanderers 78.7
S. S. Phatzio 74.4
Iron City United 50.2
Army of 1 Million 81.6
FC Planet Express 76.2
Team Rocket 58.4
Skleptoe & Son 86.1
Eggington Town 67.1
Raoul Moatdrid 48.9
CF Pijo Burro 43.7

[IronCity]

hey - I just noticed I did not change the players total column(for 19weeks) on the excel spreadsheet download - I also noticed 2 people have downloaded it so far - so I fixed it in the new download. Download again. All other data is correct.

[IronCity]

OK - everyone hold up everything. I know I have a problem when I see Denis Stracqualursi with 102 fantasy points. Something is wrong and it may take me longer to fix than expected. I have to leave my office in an hour to work in the field so lets officially change the Bidding to begin tomorrow. I have it set up but haven't put my bids in yet.

[Hunter]

OK - everyone hold up everything. I know I have a problem when I see Denis Stracqualursi with 102 fantasy points. Something is wrong and it may take me longer to fix than expected. I have to leave my office in an hour to work in the field so lets officially change the Bidding to begin tomorrow. I have it set up but haven't put my bids in yet.

Yeah, I believe the sheet also says Michael Owen has about 100 points so far this season - just noticed it a few minutes ago. :lol:

No worries. Better waiting till things are organised properly. Take as long as you need brother.

[IronCity]

just messed up the that total points column- you see it starts with Chalie Adam's 55 halfway down the page. Easy fix.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/u3gzp3acxwgq9t1/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_19.xls

[Ali_BWFC]

OK - everyone hold up everything. I know I have a problem when I see Denis Stracqualursi with 102 fantasy points. Something is wrong and it may take me longer to fix than expected. I have to leave my office in an hour to work in the field so lets officially change the Bidding to begin tomorrow. I have it set up but haven't put my bids in yet.

OK, so do we need to await for you to announce it and post the link to the bidding form?

[IronCity]

Alright we are back on track.

Bidding Window opens now - I made my bids - this bid goes until Tuesday Jan 2 at Midnight, Bolton Time. Players will be awarded Wednesday, or the soonest possible if any problems.

1) Bid on 8 players
2) enter open bid, mid-bid, and max bid. Your max bid will only be used if your other two are beaten.
3) enter priority number - 1-8, 1 being the highest. This may not come into play but I need something if you only have 10million left and you won two players but max bid of 10m each. You can PM me if you have any mistakes with this. I had to change mine after submitting.

click below to get to the google form to submit bids. Don't panic if any mistakes in your process we will work them out before Wednesday player award day.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHd6aTRYdmNvZ HYtV1FEQk1SUTFTOGc6MQ

[Cesc Fabregas]

I changed my 8th priority, Iron. Please check that.

[IronCity]

gotcha Cesc, good to PM, as you did, and post here. Don't want to ruin anyone's dreams by mistake of mine.

[IronCity]

Congratulations Alistair and the Med. Midtable Wanderers for Winning the Inaugural Twinkie Cup

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Week 20 Table
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Week 20 News Raoul Moatrid gets their due with a jump in the bottom rung of the table. Four straight weeks over 31. Impressive weeks that a transfer window can only ameliorate. Look out Club Univ. de Hounslow - the bell tolls for thee.

Download Player Data through week 20 including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3c8exwzjbdbab43/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_20.xls)

Online Week 20 Player Data - updated with latest auction results (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdFBWenA4NWxoQ0VTc3Jnbk8tNzQ 4SGc).

[Phatmann]

Congratulations Ali. You'll have to post a picture of you holding the cup aloft.

Anything for Runners Up Iron? :innocent:

[Appswah]

Well played Ali!

[IronCity]

I do believe we need a small runner's up prize. The twinkie cup package will be finalized this weekend and be in the mail on monday. As will a runner's up prize.
Ali and Mike send me your address.

Download Player Data through week 20 including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/3c8exwzjbdbab43/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_20.xls)

Online Week 20 Player Data - updated with latest auction results (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhNYKzGC-DINdFBWenA4NWxoQ0VTc3Jnbk8tNzQ 4SGc).

[Appswah]

starting to make my move for 1st place :ninja:

[Ali_BWFC]

Woooo! Can't believe I won! I never win anything :crymore:

I'd like to thank the supporters, who were truly excellent throughout the cup, turning out in their dozens to support the team!

SS Phatzio put up a great performance. Credit must go to their players and staff, as well as their supporters, who stayed in full voice despite getting their arses handed to them.

Looks like Phats had a quiet week despite Demba grabbing another goal. Managed to make up a bit of ground on Dragonfly. Bolton won, Utd lost, Blackburn lost, Wigan lost.... good week so far, despite my transfer misgivings. :D

[Phatmann]

Maybe you'll stop moaning about not signing anyone now eh Ali? :lol: And steer clear of Demba Ba. :folarm:

[Cesc Fabregas]

15 points. My signings need to step up next week *cough*Torres*cough*.

[Michu]

Congratulations Ali ... perhaps a league and cup double looms?

[Cesc Fabregas]

If we go ahead with my Champions League suggestion, I see a treble next season for me.

[Michu]

If we go ahead with my Champions League suggestion, I see a treble next season for me. Of failure

I agree :joel:

[Ali_BWFC]

Congratulations Ali ... perhaps a league and cup double looms?

With the right signings, anything is possible. Dragonfly is in a strong position, and Phats has made some excellent attacking signings. Unless I buy smartly, I can see me slipping down the league a little bit.

[Michu]

With the right signings, anything is possible. Dragonfly is in a strong position, and Phats has made some excellent attacking signings. Unless I buy smartly, I can see me slipping down the league a little bit.

Spoken like a true manager :D

[IronCity]

Maybe you'll stop moaning about not signing anyone now eh Ali? :lol: And steer clear of Demba Ba. :folarm:

I hope he does something with his 80million. Sad to watch it go down this way.

[Dragonfly]

Congratulations Ali. You'll have to post a picture of you holding the cup aloft.

Anything for Runners Up Iron? :innocent:

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[IronCity]

Week 21 Table
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Week 21 News: Team Rocket!!! Manager Thomas Hunter aptly puts together a squad that means business. With Luiz Suarez away at the African Cup of Nations, :hov:
Hunter works the transfer window with skill to gain 53 points this week and bounds over two table spots. With a little help from the Graham Cracker, look out mama there's a white boat coming up the river.

Week 21 Awards

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Download Player Data through week 21 including club account balances here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/v6eblj909fv43ex/PESG_FF_2011-12_Week_21.xls)

[Appswah]

Commandante Schettino award :lmao:

[Bammers05]

I finally won one of these awards :D

[IronCity]

I can't believe that is your first one bammers. Time flies.

[Hunter]

Phatmann...

WE COMIN' FO YOU NINJA!

:booker:


On a more serious note, I'm really looking forward to preparing my squad again for the next gameweek. If I can stretch the gap between myself and the few teams below, then at least I won't be treading on thin ice. I'm confident though that Team Rocket can continue this form and really push forward now, and hopefully close the gap above too.

[Ali_BWFC]

I'm so glad that Cesc, Phats and Dragonfly didn't pick up many points. I think I may regret not bidding for Donovan. I based it on the fact that he was shit against us..... and if you're shit against Bolton.... it means you're shit.

Week 21 Table
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Week 21 News: Team Rocket!!! Manager Thomas Hunter aptly puts together a squad that means business. With Luiz Suarez away at the African Cup of Nations, :hov:
Hunter works the transfer window with skill to gain 53 points this week and bounds over two table spots. With a little help from the Graham Cracker, look out mama there's a white boat coming up the river.


:lol:

[IronCity]

although 1/4 of the Donovan loan time is already over.

[Phatmann]

So how long before Matt gets the sack?

[IronCity]

do you mean when does he get bumped from the league? has he been on the site recently? I should check his posts. I know he hasn't been in the league since Oct/November. Pem gone as well.

[Appswah]

He hasn't been on in 10+ days.

Where is PEM?

[Phatmann]

The Phatmann puts his hat in the ring to be Caretaker Manager of Pijo Burro. Cole and Welbeck to SS Phatzio for £3m :shfty: