whats your biggest issue (with demo) [Archive]

wayno83

18-09-2011, 07:06

ball going through keepers hand as if its not there.

keepers positioning shocking why do they always stand so far out.

passing power or lack of most of the time.

when passing backwards occasionally it would do it way to soft as if you wanted to do a lay off for someone.

simple short passes that goes behind the player when its really simple to play it to feet.

playing the ball out wide again for no reason the player will just blast the pass out of play.

1 more passing thing i don't like is when your in attack and you want to pass to someone thats near you the cpu will say no im aiming for the one offside.

pk system to easy.

fk seem alot easier as well.

those stupid scissor kicks are still in the game same problem from 2011 the player doesn't know the correct time to do them.

I've changed the passing thingy from level 0-5 whatever goes to don't really see any difference.

part from all those things i'll probably still buy the game as for me personally i still find fifa unplayable.

ilyasmad

18-09-2011, 07:17

1. Goalkeepers incapability to handle soft shots and deflections.

2. Passing is slightly inconsistent; annoying at times.

3. Dribbling and close control to be toned down. Does not feel right when slow defenders have such good close control with r2. Dribbling feels like there is a string attached to his foot and the ball.

4. The opposition sometimes clips/ghost through the defenders.

All could probably be solved by a community or konami patch.

CACR25

18-09-2011, 07:27

Micropausing/Stop and go movement when sprinting.

shaun7

18-09-2011, 09:35

I want more individuality like pes 11 on the close control. In pes 12, the close control is a bit too good and there isn't enough difference between the players. There is a difference, but not enough to justify it, if that makes sense.

The dribbling and moves and the way the players execute them, has more individuality, but the close control is an issue that needs fixing. It is better than what it was in the first demo, but I want more individuality in the close control that's for sure.

Anysecondnow

18-09-2011, 10:09

Goalkeepers!!!

Michu

18-09-2011, 10:34

Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.

Ali_BWFC

18-09-2011, 11:47

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the fact that a player will walk alongside the ball before trying to collect it.... even when you're controlling him. I don't know if I'm doing anything wrong, but yesterday I played a horizontal through ball to Lahm, he got near the ball, I was trying to direct him towards it, but instead he just walked alongside it and watched it go out of play. It seems like such an obvious flaw, I can't believe they haven't fixed it!

MozzyEng

18-09-2011, 12:29

The micro pausing and shooting to me. I know the pausing wont be in the game. I must be missing something with the shooting

MysteryMan

18-09-2011, 12:43

Too much...

- Goalkeepers / no explanation needed.

- Reverse catch up bug / completely reversed from last year this year once an attacking player goes past you YOU WILL NOT catch him EVER, even if ur defender has 99 top speed and the attacker has 70 and 70 dribble speed.

- Clips/Ghosting.

- Passing sometimes very weird, when you want to pass the ball to the player behind someone and you ramp it up to full power yet he still passes to the player between you and your target.

- Players still running on rails.

- Close control and technique way too good, and also the difference between someone with 90 or 70 Dribble acc is almost non existant.

- Similar to my point above, every other stat seems to have MUCH less difference than it did in 2011, if someone has 70 or 90 stat the difference is very small, so there is NO INVIDUALITY anymore, one of the main things that made PES so good.

- No acceleration stat, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT STATS IN SOCCER. It also means that the burst of pace thingy will be only based on explosive power/agility which is WRONG because someone like Xavi has good agility but he can't burst past players, and in PES 2012 he will just like 90% of other players.

MikeyM24

18-09-2011, 13:28

Played it a bit more and my biggest gripe is now the amount of replays in PES. Replays for anything and everything.

It wouldn't be so bad if you could press A to cancel them, like FIFA. Pressing start is a bit awkward.

My major issue is the lack of a closer in camera.

Michu

18-09-2011, 13:37

Aye, I agree, I'd like a closer camera angle ... I find it easier to judge dribbling with a closer camera angle

Moyesavelian

18-09-2011, 13:53

Individuality.

stottmeister

18-09-2011, 13:57

I prefer the wider angle so as to see who's available for the pass but I see what you mean about dribbling being easier with a closer view, plus you can see the detailing better.

Rainey

18-09-2011, 13:58

The fuckin' 2 hour motion picture that is played every time you load it up.

murphyr

19-09-2011, 02:18

1. Goalkeepers - Palm too many weak shots and don't seem to have the capacity to stretch out their arms to save shots that should be within arms reach. Fail to get down to low tame shots and use legs when it would be easier to just get their body behind the ball and pick it up.

2. Too many players have the capacity to dribble well. Fine if you a top playmaker but when lumbering CB's slalom up the park like they are on ice skates it diminishes the player individuality.

3. Stuttering/micropausing (might be confined to the 360) - Players stopping/doubling back/turning when running with the ball for no reason. Heard people say that this is just a demo issue but i would be interested to know what this view is based on and whether Konami has acknowledged it and confirmed that it will not be present in the final release. The micropausing has been most prevelant for me at the point where i score a goal. There is a perceptible jar as the ball goes in.

4. Fuzzy/blurry graphics - hopefully the sharpness will be there for final release

JackWilshere

19-09-2011, 02:24

mahanddeem

19-09-2011, 03:10

The fuckin' 2 hour motion picture that is played every time you load it up.

"The fucken' 2 hour motion" can be deleted from both the 2 demos...Find it here in the forums

Kefir

19-09-2011, 07:25

"The fucken' 2 hour motion" can be deleted from both the 2 demos...Find it here in the forums

The goalkeepers are still spilling way too many balls.

The stuttering and micropausing are unacceptable. That actually shocks me!

Trenchant

19-09-2011, 08:06

The fuckin' 2 hour motion picture that is played every time you load it up.

take em to church Rainey and testify!! :willis:

"The fucken' 2 hour motion" can be deleted from both the 2 demos...Find it here in the forums

since when? (has searched)

MysteryMan

19-09-2011, 10:23

Seriously wtf is up with the stamina in this game? It drains waaaaaay too fast.

I don't even sprint that much, only when I need to, yet I find that by the 60 minute mark, most of my players (including the freaking goalkeeper!!!) have 0 stamina left, their bar is completely empty.

It's a BIG issue imo, anyone else noticed it? It had better be fixed in the full game or it'll be a game breaker for sure.

I didn't notice that but I think that sounds fairly realistic if you play with a lower club like Rangers maybe? that your stamina would be extremely low at around 60-70 mins, now if you play with Barca I would expect it to still be going good after 80.

Alltho being empty is a bit weird, more realistic would be if it was in the red zone, but then again I don't think there are any changes to stats in the red zone only when its empty.

skickahit10

19-09-2011, 10:41

Nothing but the keepers, keepers and the keepers :angry:

Rainey

19-09-2011, 10:43

"The fucken' 2 hour motion" can be deleted from both the 2 demos...Find it here in the forums

Care to elaborate mate? Cheers.

Cristiano92

19-09-2011, 10:59

Can be deleted only on PC ;)

Rainey

19-09-2011, 11:00

Can be deleted only on PC ;)

That's what I thought. Unlucky for the console man i.e. Me!

Kefir

19-09-2011, 11:05

That's what I thought. Unlucky for the console man i.e. Me!

Just turn the console off after every match. Yes its annoying but it takes 1 minute.

Cristiano92

19-09-2011, 11:16

If you turn it off, the video plays ;)
If you not turn it off, you do not have to watch it.

Amiga73

19-09-2011, 11:40

One twos are worse in PES 2012 than 2011. In PES 2011 Eto would run pass the defence and you had to time it so that he is not offside when you past to him. In PES 2012 Eto will jog up to the defence and stop.

Kefir

19-09-2011, 13:09

If you turn it off, the video plays ;)
If you not turn it off, you do not have to watch it.

Nope when i start the console and enter the demo there is no intro at all. After first game then the intro starts. Im on xbox.

Im a bit confused now are you telling me you have the intro when you start the game?? This is really weird.

DIECI

19-09-2011, 15:07

my biggest issue is simply that I feel passing took a step back from what it was in PES2011. I really thought the passing last year was incredible, but this year no matter what assist setting you put it just isn't up to par with the direction PES2011 was going. Other than that I really like the 2nd demo, shooting, player movement, new defensive system, off ball control are all a big plus IMO. This will be a very good year of PES for me. One last thing, this PES reminds me, in look, player control and feel to PES2010 more than 2011. Anyone else agree ? Its much better than 2010 but Im just saying its more 2010 than 2011.

JackWilshere

19-09-2011, 15:36

I didn't notice that but I think that sounds fairly realistic if you play with a lower club like Rangers maybe? that your stamina would be extremely low at around 60-70 mins, now if you play with Barca I would expect it to still be going good after 80.

Alltho being empty is a bit weird, more realistic would be if it was in the red zone, but then again I don't think there are any changes to stats in the red zone only when its empty.

Yeah don't worry, figured out why it was draining so fast. I went into settings and found that the home team's conditioning was set to the lowest setting. :lol:

It's fine now.

ftgpete

19-09-2011, 15:47

Defending aerial balls for me, your players don't attack it and gets very annoying, feels as though once it goes in the air, the opposition gets super powers and will destroy you no matter what.

Mighty__Mag

19-09-2011, 15:57

The lob through ball is kinda sluggy very slow and not as high over the top

Trenchant

19-09-2011, 17:45

I am actually quite fond of the demo. In PES 2011 I was always baffled at the fact people would play the game with -2 speed. As a avid footy fan I watch games every Saturday and super Sunday and always found the movement of players and sprinting and passing ridiculously unrealistic in PES 2011. In 2012 I find the movement and speed much more to the level of a actual footy match and have enjoyed the new game mechanics, especially counters and breaks which seem much more realistic than last years PES. The only complaint I have with the game is the fact that after you make a break, play the midfield out of position, wrong foot a defender, run for a rebound in front of net, look at an empty goal and your getting ready to blast a ball past the keeper....and all you get is this weak little lob that passes as a shot... the shooting is ridiculous.

Sabatasso

19-09-2011, 18:03

Yes, so far I've only been majorly annoyed by the shooting. Everything else seems fine or decent so far.

But I've only played a few matches on the second demo, and haven't really put much effort into "discovering" any flaws other than the obvious.

Ultimate777

19-09-2011, 18:06

Rangers. Why are these clowns in the game with their two horse race joke league? Of all the teams in the world to put in the demo, rangers are included. They've got no players who'd you want to use, a shit kit, and just a horrible team with a horrible set of supporters who don't even deserve to be able to play as them.

fick

19-09-2011, 18:17