6 March patch question

[Pokervriend]

Hi PESser's,
I read info about the new patch. It off course includes all the transfers and we even get new boots (yay:rolleyes:). Anyway, I was wondering if Konami also changes some player ratings, since some of them are really unrealistic. (Guidetti, a decent striker of Feyenoord is rated 58, should be arround 73). Van Persie is rated way too low. Some older players (Lampard, Pirlo etc) are way too high and so on. Is this also gonna be fixed 6 March?

[abu97]

As far as I'm concerned, there will be no major stat changes. I've only seen 1 major stat change my whole life in terms of PES and that was this yeat when they improved Neymar from 82 to 86. Lampard shouldn't decrease that much but eventhough he is consistent, 86 is too high and 83 or 84 is much better. Pirlo needs a decrease and so does Gerrard and some of CR7 stats (Both have 96 power!)

[Pokervriend]

I know, I think they really should fix some stats. Also some AC Milan players are rated to high. Another thing I never understood was speed. I mean, why do players from smaller clubs (like in the Dutch competition) rarely have high speed stats. In the Netherlands, many teams have very quick and skilled dribblers ond the wings, yet their stats are rarely accurate (71 speed for some wingers just as quick as walcott in real life) I find that disappointing, but I'm not under the impression Konami really makes much of an effort when it comes to rating the smaller teams..

[abu97]

They probably don't look at the smaller clubs at a daily basis unlike the big teams - prob once a month. Some players are quick though - A. Musa for VVV-Venlo but generally they underrate a lot of small teams.

[Pokervriend]

Yeah, especially stats like dribble speed, speed, kicking power, body balance and the like. I mean, lots of players can dribble as fast as Lennon, or Walcott (maybe not as accurate, but still).

[gunnerglow]

i dont understand why they do not use the full spectrum 1-99 of the stats< i never see below 55 on anything. I mean i would assume they are all pro's so why not have lower stats on some things?

[noso33]

i agree with u..alot of players have high stats although they deserve much less..and the opposite is true..i want to ask you what are the best settings for PES 2012 to feel it enjoyable..for u guys what are settings you use??

[Pokervriend]

What do you mean mate? which settings? formation, game speed, difficulty?

[noso33]

yes i mean game speed..thanks

[OnlyProEvo]

No mention of it, so you can probably rule out player stat updates.

[erichmr]

any info about Libertadores teams? Roster updates and kits (Internacional and Santos now have Nike kits, for example)

[Pokervriend]

No, I read they will change a few national kits (spain and some others) but no new about the Libertadores

[nbn]

Ok, the new patch is out but I can't download it. I tried both P2P and HTTP, anyone else with this issue? PES 2012 Asian (English version).

[nbn]

Ok, I am downloading now.

[Pokervriend]

Wow, so much stats have changed. They actually fixed Guidetti like I asked:-) he was 58 and is 76 now, that's a huge improvement!

Thanks Konami:-)

[The Brain]

Do you guys know if this DLC interferes with the Option Files?

[slemke]

Do you guys know if this DLC interferes with the Option Files?

as always, You can download it, but when the game asks You to overwrite You current Option File, just select "No" and it shouldn't effect Your Option File, but You can still use the new shoes and shirts. But off course the stats from the players haven't changed.

[IronCity]

there was a trick suggested for the last DLC that would help not mess with your D2 teams. Not sure if useful or not but I used last time.

Say "No" to the transfer/squad changes - but then hit the default rosters afterwards and the stats and new created players will be there but your D2 squads won't be messed with (as much).

[Dreamer]

could anyone inform if they updated libertadores rosters?

[burberry]

i didnt see any change in the national team roster

still no Balotelli in Italy, there is Wilshere in England (he has been injured since the start of season now)

They didnt add new preset face for the new stars like Chamberlain, Shaarawi of Milan, Cuenca of Barca, etc, while last year DLC, i remember they add Andy Carroll, etc

[abu97]

Yes, they finally fixed Van Persie's stats but still no goal poacher

[tinsma_7]

well actualy they didn't, i hoped they did, but they didn',t you're confusing with pes2012

carrol and wilshere were only given new faces in pes2012...


i didnt see any change in the national team roster

still no Balotelli in Italy, there is Wilshere in England (he has been injured since the start of season now)

They didnt add new preset face for the new stars like Chamberlain, Shaarawi of Milan, Cuenca of Barca, etc, while last year DLC, i remember they add Andy Carroll, etc

[burberry]

well actualy they didn't, i hoped they did, but they didn',t you're confusing with pes2012

carrol and wilshere were only given new faces in pes2012...

oh yes, thanks for reminding, i got my self a very good scanned face of carroll last year, i forgot it was not a preset face from Konami :)

[abu97]

I'm actually impressed with KONAMI for giving some players an overhaul in stats, much noticably the Ox, RVP, Nocerino, Demba Ba, Thiago Silva, Nani, Armero etc.

[IronCity]

I'm actually impressed with KONAMI for giving some players an overhaul in stats, much noticably the Ox, RVP, Nocerino, Demba Ba, Thiago Silva, Nani, Armero etc.

very interesting - I wanted to download before I went to work today but ran out of time but will itching to download it tonight with that kind of report. I am surprised they bumped Nani - thought he was pretty good already, Ba will be interesting particularly with Cisse up front with him.

I upped the fitness values for a lot of players because I got sick of the CPU not having RVP in the lineup when I played against arsenal in season mode and watching someone like Evra always being gassed out an not being able to be played. I will have to go back and fix again after the DLC.

[¢Ħλ®₤ỉξ-[14]]

i didnt see any change in the national team roster

still no Balotelli in Italy, there is Wilshere in England (he has been injured since the start of season now)

They didnt add new preset face for the new stars like Chamberlain, Shaarawi of Milan, Cuenca of Barca, etc, while last year DLC, i remember they add Andy Carroll, etc
Cuenca? he have 50 games and 10 goals in Sabadell+Barca and u want a preset? U need to remember that another Barca Player like Pedreo be in 2 or 3 pes games before have preset, Falcao was the top scorer of Uefa Europa League and he dont have a preset, Messi came be 2 pes games before have a preset.
Then the nt rosters change for a world cup DLC so u will have to wait till pes 2013 to see Balotelli in Italy, or make ur own.

[Zardo]

Ok, So how can we get this update (squads,stats,faces) without messing the D2 teams and bundesliga?

[IronCity]

Ok, So how can we get this update (squads,stats,faces) without messing the D2 teams and bundesliga?

copied from above
there was a trick suggested for the last DLC that would help not mess with your D2 teams. Not sure if useful or not but I used last time.

Say "No" to the transfer/squad changes - but then hit the default rosters afterwards and the stats and new created players will be there but your D2 squads won't be messed with (as much).

new info: I remember doing this last time and a few players were lost from Bundesliga - they just needed to be added again from free agents but not sure why they were lost

[Zardo]

I read on the winning eleven blog that some did "Apply" the content and nothing from his editing was touched. I dunno if someone can apply the DLC and see what happens.. I really do want the whole update but I don't want to lose many info I've been editing.

[Ali_BWFC]

I can't seem to download it. Anyone else having the same problem? I've tried both ptp and http, seems to stay at 0%.

[IronCity]

I read on the winning eleven blog that some did "Apply" the content and nothing from his editing was touched. I dunno if someone can apply the DLC and see what happens.. I really do want the whole update but I don't want to lose many info I've been editing.

you could save your current option file to a USB then apply the DLC but you could revert to the old option file if it became too screwed over.

[Pokervriend]

I'm actually impressed with KONAMI for giving some players an overhaul in stats, much noticably the Ox, RVP, Nocerino, Demba Ba, Thiago Silva, Nani, Armero etc.

Guys, Most noticable is Guidetti. He went from 56 or something to 76:w00t. I wondered if there is a list of all players who had a Statsboost?

[Griciu]

Guys, Most noticable is Guidetti. He went from 56 or something to 76:w00t. I wondered if there is a list of all players who had a Statsboost?

I know my Juventus payers went like this:

Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83

Krasic remains at 89 which I don't mind really, but the guy hasn't played almost at all this season and is really playing like crap when he does. He should be under 80 imho

[abu97]

Guys, Most noticable is Guidetti. He went from 56 or something to 76:w00t. I wondered if there is a list of all players who had a Statsboost?
No but you can try asking Onlyproevo or Jon Murphy on twitter.

Also doesn't anyone think Henry is a tad overrated in terms of speed?

[IronCity]

I know I shouldn't even compare EA and PES anymore but EA Madden used to update rosters weekly with the rating changes documented by table on their website. It was so nice to track player updates in this manner. - and so simple for EA to do because they were just posting the master game data file.

[Pokervriend]

No but you can try asking Onlyproevo or Jon Murphy on twitter.

Also doesn't anyone think Henry is a tad overrated in terms of speed?

More, in terms of EVERYTHING. I mean common, the guys hasn't played on a decent level for years, he should have been like V. Nistelooy, Trezeguet, Inzaghi and all the other old strikers (78 max). Henry is 85 as LMF, way to high imo.

I don't have twitter btw. I really would like a list with all the upgraded players. Really think Konami did a good job this patch, way above expectation.

[MesSI ToXIc]

thiago silva ---> 96
van persie ---> 86

marchisio's stats are crap, how does he have 88 overall rating??

[abu97]

More, in terms of EVERYTHING. I mean common, the guys hasn't played on a decent level for years, he should have been like V. Nistelooy, Trezeguet, Inzaghi and all the other old strikers (78 max). Henry is 85 as LMF, way to high imo.

I don't have twitter btw. I really would like a list with all the upgraded players. Really think Konami did a good job this patch, way above expectation.
Actually I was about to write he is overrated at everything but I thought those stupid die hard Arsenal fans will be like 'he scored 2 goals in 3 matches, how does that make him overrated' His MLS scoring record isn't bad but for me he should be less than 80 whatever position

[Jeronimoe]

Actually I was about to write he is overrated at everything but I thought those stupid die hard Arsenal fans will be like 'he scored 2 goals in 3 matches, how does that make him overrated' His MLS scoring record isn't bad but for me he should be less than 80 whatever position

80 is fair at CF but SS should be 78 and LMF,RMF,WF should all be 74.

But over all an ok dlc

[Pokervriend]

thiago silva ---> 96
van persie ---> 86

marchisio's stats are crap, how does he have 88 overall rating??

v Persie is 88 actually. :laugh:

[abu97]

On the wing he is but thats not his natural position

[Pokervriend]

Actually I was about to write he is overrated at everything but I thought those stupid die hard Arsenal fans will be like 'he scored 2 goals in 3 matches, how does that make him overrated' His MLS scoring record isn't bad but for me he should be less than 80 whatever position

I agree with you. If he was really so great, he would not have been a substitute every match, right? I mean, just like v Nistelrooy, Inzaghi etc. his glory days are long gone. He off course is a decent player, buy 85LMF is absurt for a player who plays okay in the MLS. It's not like there are any good squads in the USA:)

[IronCity]

Big Alert

the DLC will ruin your Bundesliga or whatever you have in your D1&D2 slots.

I don't know why I expected any less. Why can't Konami fix their data structure so DLCs do not overwrite these slots. They know they only exist so we can edit them. It is absolutely idiotic that D1&D2s are not write protected by the Konami DLC.

I am so pissed. Bundelsiga gone; Richmond Kickers gone; Pgh Riverhounds gone, Championship gone.

I am so sick of Option files. sick of them. I see myself finishing out my PES2012 experience without bundesliga and Championship clubs because I am sick of copying and pasting hundreds of file pieces to fix it everytime. Imports???? You might ask about that option. You have to overwrite every fake player, player by player, any way. Imports for Bundesliga may actually take more time.

[Sickdl]

Big Alert

the DLC will ruin your Bundesliga or whatever you have in your D1&D2 slots.

I don't know why I expected any less. Why can't Konami fix their data structure so DLCs do not overwrite these slots. They know they only exist so we can edit them. It is absolutely idiotic that D1&D2s are not write protected by the Konami DLC.

I am so pissed. Bundelsiga gone; Richmond Kickers gone; Pgh Riverhounds gone, Championship gone.

I am so sick of Option files. sick of them. I see myself finishing out my PES2012 experience without bundesliga and Championship clubs because I am sick of copying and pasting hundreds of file pieces to fix it everytime. Imports???? You might ask about that option. You have to overwrite every fake player, player by player, any way. Imports for Bundesliga may actually take more time.

Yes i totaly agree with you. Im using daymos of for xbox, its really easy to install. But its stupid that the dlc mess everything up. Konami knows many ppl us of's and edit the leagues. Would be nice to be able to update the teams now and then. Konami should be more user friendly towarts editing.
Im sorry you lost all your files. Konami must really change this

[Pokervriend]

On the wing he is but thats not his natural position

Are you sure? I thought he was 88 as SS?


BTW: They did look at Heerenveen. Both wingers are speed merchants now!

[MesSI ToXIc]

any goalkeepers improved?

[Pokervriend]

Handanovic is 89 now.

[nbn]

Chamberlain 69>75
Scholes is in the game now.

[Pokervriend]

Why can't I pick that new ball in online modes?

[abu97]

Another noticable one is Phil Jones but I still cannot believe they didn't upgrade Juan Mata's stats as he has by far been the best player for Chelsea this season

[[PST]SuSpEcT]

I just noticed that THIAGO SILVA's rating improved 93 >> 96
now he's the best defender in the game

[Pokervriend]

SuSpEcT;1902229']I just noticed that THIAGO SILVA's rating improved 93 >> 96
now he's the best defender in the game

Yeah, I know mate, this is my list so far:

Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83

[OnlyProEvo]

Why can't I pick that new ball in online modes?

Can only use it in the CL final I think.

[IronCity]

Can only use it in the CL final I think.
I wish they would have added the proper seitiro ball with a little blue&orange color

[Pokervriend]

Can only use it in the CL final I think.

hmm, that;s lame:erm: How about the boots. When I give v Persie classic boots, will he also wear them online, or is this just for offline modes?

[marcosonic]

i was waiting for this update for long time in hopes that the stats for the new young red devils will be improved. some of them were changed like jones and i think welbeck who was 70 before now is 73 WOW really? de gea is 79, lindergard is 75 really WOW even Valdez is 89 even chicharito is only 74 o well i guess its ok for alexis sanches to be 86 or kadeirha to be 85, the only thing konami is doing with this is making people to choose those 2 teams only. other thing that i find very funny is that ac milan has all A's as team average, gime a break.

[Pokervriend]

i was waiting for this update for long time in hopes that the stats for the new young red devils will be improved. some of them were changed like jones and i think welbeck who was 70 before now is 73 WOW really? de gea is 79, lindergard is 75 really WOW even Valdez is 89 even chicharito is only 74 o well i guess its ok for alexis sanches to be 86 or kadeirha to be 85, the only thing konami is doing with this is making people to choose those 2 teams only. other thing that i find very funny is that ac milan has all A's as team average, gime a break.

as a fan of ManU, you are a bit biassed mate. Chicarito is not so good, de gea is not better than Vorm, Krul, Hart, so 79 is fine. He has to prove himself first

[IronCity]

i was waiting for this update for long time in hopes that the stats for the new young red devils will be improved. some of them were changed like jones and i think welbeck who was 70 before now is 73 WOW really? de gea is 79, lindergard is 75 really WOW even Valdez is 89 even chicharito is only 74 o well i guess its ok for alexis sanches to be 86 or kadeirha to be 85, the only thing konami is doing with this is making people to choose those 2 teams only. other thing that i find very funny is that ac milan has all A's as team average, gime a break.

Chicharito does suck in this game doesn't he. I lost count the number of times he as shot wide or been stumped by the keeper on a one-on-one. He seems to be the one Man U player I can't score with. forget about him taking a through pass and moving to the net because he is caught by every defender. I'll take the 74 overall because he supplies no defense but seem like you can't reproduce his real life poaching ability.

[¢Ħλ®₤ỉξ-[14]]

hmm, that;s lame:erm: How about the boots. When I give v Persie classic boots, will he also wear them online, or is this just for offline modes?
The things the user edit for players (stats, accesories, etc) cant be used in online, they are only for offline. In online is all default settings.
The things that work in online are team logos, kits, and team names in the case of Pes League and D2.

[neoaid]

A. Song from Arsenal is now Enforcer+Anchor Man.

[neoaid]

TABANOU got a super upgrade too.

[Pokervriend]

List so far:

Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86



Thanks mate, do you know what Tabanou had before? I've put them on the list btw. Since I haven't found a list of upgraded players, it might be a good idea to make the list above as complete as possible. So anybody who found some players who have been upgraded but are not on the list, please add them!

[neoaid]

Not sure on Tabanou but he didnt have that many player skills either. Did Charlie Adam also get improved? Dont use Liverpool that much but he seems a lil different.

[Zardo]

My bundesliga is perfect after applying the DLC. Only the international players are out of the squad list, you only need to put them back. Otherwise, everything is fine. I've seen a lot of upgrades to players, I will post a list in the night.

[abu97]

Charlie Adam - 86
Nani - 89
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Oxlade-Chamberlain - 75
Sigurdsson - 74

[Pokervriend]

Nice, I'll put them on the list as well.

Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Sigurdsson - 74

[milenec11]

does any one know how to redownload the dlc because i have the kits and boots but no rosters. (bles 1408)

[abu97]

Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Batshuayi - 53

[Pokervriend]

Tioté had an upgrade too:

Tioté -80
Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Sigurdsson - 74

[Dreamer]

does any one know how to redownload the dlc because i have the kits and boots but no rosters. (bles 1408)

Look at the GAME settings into PS3 XMB.
You must find your PES 2012 new DLC there and delete it.
This new DLC file should be in same place as your game patches file are.

BE Aware : it's not your system file.

[Griciu]

I don't know what exactly did they do, but Lavezzi is better than Pato now imho. I have them both in good (green) condition, but Pato is way weaker than he was before, I can barely dribble with him now, while Lavezzi flies.

[IronCity]

My bundesliga is perfect after applying the DLC. Only the international players are out of the squad list, you only need to put them back. Otherwise, everything is fine. I've seen a lot of upgrades to players, I will post a list in the night.

Did you OK the roster changes? If so, wish I knew how you pulled that off. Not only did it destroy my Bundesliga but also removed the players from created as well. I did find some two other teams I had imported remain in created players section but need to be transferred back into their respective D2 slots.

[milenec11]

Look at the GAME settings into PS3 XMB.
You must find your PES 2012 new DLC there and delete it.
This new DLC file should be in same place as your game patches file are.

BE Aware : it's not your system file.
where is that my friend i cann't find it?

[abu97]

Batshauyi - 63 (my bad)
Arteta - 87
Frimpong - 63 to 65
Jenkinson - 66 to 70
Parker - 79 to 81
Goetze - 77 to 80 (84 RMF)
Mario Gomez - 77 to 80

[Pokervriend]

Batshauyi - 63
Arteta - 87
Frimpong - 63 to 65
Jenkinson - 66 to 70
Parker - 79 to 81
Goetze - 77 to 80 (84 RMF)
Mario Gomez - 77 to 80
Tioté -80
Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Sigurdsson - 74

Wow Abu, good job!

[Douglie27]

I've hesitated to install the new patch becuase I am wondering if it will affect my patch that I have for all of the teams official kits and tournaments?

[abu97]

It's easy for me as the players from my Master League have stats from before the DLC so I just need to check for any stat upgrades by searching all players.

[abu97]

Lol, I just noticed that before the DLC update, Demba Ba was left footed

[Vegito999]

Batshauyi - 63
Arteta - 87
Frimpong - 63 to 65
Jenkinson - 66 to 70
Parker - 79 to 81
Goetze - 77 to 80 (84 RMF)
Mario Gomez - 77 to 80
Tioté -80
Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Sigurdsson - 74

Wow Abu, good job!

Toni Kroos get an update as well, from 76/77 to 80 + Direct Play. :D

[nbn]

Landon Donovan is also in the game now.

[Pokervriend]

Landon Donovan is also in the game now.

He allready was, just with a fake name

[Pokervriend]

Kroos - 80+Direct Play
Batshauyi - 63
Arteta - 87
Frimpong - 63 to 65
Jenkinson - 66 to 70
Parker - 79 to 81
Goetze - 77 to 80 (84 RMF)
Mario Gomez - 77 to 80
Tioté -80
Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85
Sigurdsson - 74

[abu97]

No mention of it, so you can probably rule out player stat updates.
Lol (Had the urge to say this)

[IronCity]

is Pogba gone. Just noticed he is not on the ManU roster but failed to search for him.

[abu97]

They removed him because apparently the Man United squad is full

[marcosonic]

progba is gone, he shouldve stayed and take out thomas kuszczak.
i dont know if some of the new manchester united players have to proof themselves to get better stats. probably they do. chicharito is not a very good player with the ball yet he scored 20+ goals last season. de la gea is shaky sometimes yet he is champion of the world under 21, i could probably go on and on, bias? perhaps, but i get pissed of when i see players with better stats that havent really proof themselves like some say. eg ballotelli 82

[abu97]

Juan Mata and Graham (Swansea) not having stat upgrades are just ridiculous as they have proved themselves more than others which warrant an upgrade. Most of KONAMI's stats are biased anyway, especially Inter having 98 tactics!

[Pokervriend]

progba is gone, he shouldve stayed and take out thomas kuszczak.
i dont know if some of the new manchester united players have to proof themselves to get better stats. probably they do. chicharito is not a very good player with the ball yet he scored 20+ goals last season. de la gea is shaky sometimes yet he is champion of the world under 21, i could probably go on and on, bias? perhaps, but i get pissed of when i see players with better stats that havent really proof themselves like some say. eg ballotelli 82

Well, I think Vorm has proven himself more then de Gea. Vorm only has 76, so 79 for Gea seems okay. Especially since he hasn't really been convincing overall this season. There are some players who should have had a stats upgrade, but overall I think Konami did better then I expected to be honest.

[Pokervriend]

Found 2 more when I was playing with the Netherlands:

Emanuelson 81-84
Strootman 80-83

The list now:


Emanuelson 81-84
Strootman 80-83
Kroos - 80+Direct Play
Batshauyi - 63
Arteta - 87
Frimpong - 63 to 65
Jenkinson - 66 to 70
Parker - 79 to 81
Goetze - 77 to 80 (84 RMF)
Mario Gomez - 77 to 80
Tioté -80
Oliver Giroud - 79
Corgnet - 71
Marchisio 83 -> 88
Lichteiner 80 -> 83
Vidal 79 -> 83
Lavezzi; 90
Thiago Silva; 96
Hulk; 85
v. Persie; 86
Guidetti;56- 76
Narsingh and Assaidi; both Speed Merchants
Henry CA 82
Demba Ba; 82
Trezequet; 75
Scholes;j 83
Hummels 85
Handanovic 89
Armero; 90
Chamberlain -75 RVA
Nocerino – 79 CM
Achahbar – 69 LMF
P. Jones- 83
Song 79-83 +Enforcer +Anchor Man.
Tabanou- 86
Lucio - 90 (from 89)
Felipe Melo - 87 (I think)
Kompany - 87
Basibeloy - 85

[nbn]

konami is perfect on their stats, gotze is the biggest hype in the football world and deserves the boost at 84 RMF. as for Balotelli, marcosonic have you seen this guy play? He does tricks while running on the ball, and he can score. Hes proven since he was at Inter, not to mention hes performance at Man City. You must be stupid to think he is not worthy of an 82 tall guy.

Vorm is ok, he is no difference than Al Hasbi because he is on a shit team and gets what he deserves.

[nbn]

and Juan Mata is the same as he was at Valenica, no more no less. So at 82 or whatever it is its fine. Chelsea is counting on him, so thats why you think he is so talented. Worthy to be a star, but not an all-star. I've seen him miss 1 on 1s, yes he does get the shot but its usually off target when dealing with a goalkeeper.

[abu97]

Even at Valencia he should have been rated higher than 79 as he was their best playmaker. At Chelsea you hardly ever see him miss 1 on 1's and there are players like Torres that miss loads and are rated higher than him. Anyway, he is a LMF and he does his job superbly. His dribble accuracy is low eventhough he mastered a bergkamp flick a few matches ago, his freee kick acc. is low eventhough he is so consistent and his vision to pick out a player is superb. He should be rated higher than Lampard and Malouda as he does his job so well. Giving him a 79 is a disgrace as after Silva, he is the best midfielder in the Premier League

[marcosonic]

we are kinda getting out of the topic here but i have to say this ballotelli is the biggest piece of **** overrated player i have seem in a good while. he might be tricky or whatever u want to call it but out of 10 shoots, he gets only to hit the bar so thats that.

[Pokervriend]

Heheh, he's a circus player and puts up a show every match. But all togheter he isn't a great player at all. He is not effective, doesn't consider his teammates etc. I think Tevez is a way better player, hope he plays again soon.

[sjerker]

hey i download the OF yesterday all good but i lost all my gp in the game im doing my friends OF later is there anyway of keeping ur current gp so were not having to start from scratch again

[abu97]

Which is why his shooting accuracy, mentality and teamwork are low. His curl is overrated though

[¢Ħλ®₤ỉξ-[14]]

Hulk (Porto & Brazil) from 82 to 85.

Edit: I found that he awas in the list.

[nbn]

Fuck you if you dont like Balotelli you dont like football. I remember seeing him wearing those stocking socks with the T90s, (Michael Jackson like appearance) only pros before age 21 would wear. He is still a young adult playing striker (sometimes) for the most dangerous club in the most endurance league. Yaya, you might say "who cares what he wears" then you are probably one of those who think Mizuno is a great brand. LEARN YOUR MATERIAL BEFORE APPLYING IT. Mizuno builds up their brand by focusing on durability during a match, which is weak sauce. A great player only needs one touch to finish you, not according to the speed of the game.

[abu97]

He has technical brilliance but at the end of the day he does not give a single f*** about football. His tenacity is weak and he has a short-temper and likes to mess about. I love his off the pitch behaviour but he just does not give 100% to a match

[marcosonic]

most dangerous club?

[nbn]

Webster defines

1: exposing to or involving danger
2: able or likely to inflict injury or harm

Silva the defending Spain Euro 2010 champ runs the attack, he can make plays better than Cecs.

Yaya toure the strongest cmf in punishing opponents, can track back and holds the ball.

In EPL, they're the best at playing the passing game. Passing creates chances, therefore they're the most dangerous. Man Utd plays this well but they dont have a true striker like Man City does with Aguero. Along with Balotelli and Dzeko.

Hart is having the best season yet, with Tevez coming back to the team to give it depth. Experience mid-fielders and wingers all over, Barry, Johnson and Milner.

EXAMPLE: coming back from being down 2 goals to tie Sporting in Europa.

[abu97]

Yeah, Man U don't have a true striker like Rooney :facepalm:
EPL might be good at playing the passing game, but not any more. Probably the La Liga is. Man U's lack of passing the ball accurately resulted them being eliminated by Athletic Bilbao.
Johnson, experienced? Gotta be kiddin' me.
Barry and Milner are decent eventhough they're experienced.
Silva can't playmake better than Cesc. Cesc is having the time of his life in Spain after notching up assist after assist. Did you see when Barca trashed Leversuken 7-1? Fabregas well timed through ball setted up most of the play. Btw, Silva hasn't been playing as we all expected in the last month and since when did the euros take place in 2010?

All in all, there was no point of your post

[Pokervriend]

Just a random question; How is it possible that clubs like Liverpool and Chelsea have so many medioker players when they have such HUGH budgets. There are so many quality players and yet Liverpool decides to pay tens of millions for Carroll??

[abu97]

Because sometimes those players are ona purple patch of form. You look at Carroll for Newcastle before his transfer and he played excellent grabbing one every game. Same for Torres at Liverpool but then he moved to Chelsea and God know how lazy those two have become. If they are still on high wages, the world has gone crazy

[marcosonic]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ucnX42hU4OU/TqUVEM4W1_I/AAAAAAAABYU/LoKHKAAIneo/s1600/united+city.jpg

thats all i have to say.
going back to poker comment, i dont think either team have mediocrer players, i think for the most part they are actually world class. i have a very high respect(i am manutd fan) for guys such as gerrard, charlie adams, mereiles, ramirez essien and so on,even drogba i think its a matter of these players sometimes coming to this clubs just for the money and not for the club and history. probably not gerrad.
it comes a lot down to the ppl who manages the club too, a lot of these teams now a days are loosing their identity so at the end of the days the players are just happy with coming to train ,play on the weekend and collecting the big juicy paychecks.

[Pokervriend]

Because sometimes those players are ona purple patch of form. You look at Carroll for Newcastle before his transfer and he played excellent grabbing one every game. Same for Torres at Liverpool but then he moved to Chelsea and God know how lazy those two have become. If they are still on high wages, the world has gone crazy

I think Torres is a great player, I understood Chelsea paying a lot of money for him. He had a dribble, technique and scored a lot of goals. But Carroll? Honestly, I think he is such a limited player. All he is suitable for is a traditional kick and rush game. Also, clubs like ManU have so many former top players. Why do players like Scholes, Giggs and Ferdinand still play so much. If ManU comes to play against a club like Barca they get blown away with those oldies.

[abu97]

Torres is a great player but he has gone so slow and never tracks back because he's gained so much weight. Have you seen him run? He runs like he weighs a few tonnes. He is skillful but he struggles to try hard enough to score - his off the ball runs aren't good and he creates a limited amount of chances for himself. He lacks confidence which is the main thing. And its not only Man U with former top players, its Chelsea too. Those players Giggs, Scholes and Ferdy play a lot because there still legends but lack pace and stamina but its not like they need it (apart from Giggs but his technique makes up for it). Anyway, if I were versing Barca, I'd honestly play Ferdinand instead of Jones as Ferdinand is much stronger, versed Barca before so he's familiar with their tactics, more reliable, less prone to mistakes and experienced. In the EPL, I'd play Jones more as he is young, fast and quick and generally more active

[Pokervriend]

Yeah, Chelsea maybe even more. I agree that Torres plays horrible now, it is just that at the time I understood Chelsea paying so much money for him. What I don't understand is that Liverpool payed something like €40 million for him. They should have bought two decent defenders, and a creative midfielder and a good striker for that money.

[nbn]

OK, I meant to say world cup but hey you got me there. But back to the point, the guy is obviously a Man Utd fan so he was offended by my praise in another team. Man City has to use Adam Johnson wisely, he is good when he is ready and you know thats true. I onced doubted his ability, but after watching him this season I think his progress through Mancini. As for Silva, he is an assist man, hes not going to get an assist every game and thats football. Unless you are Arsenal during the Henry era.

For my comment on EPL passing, I'm including clearance/long throws/haymakers. La Liga might have the short passes, but if you play real football like I do, you will know short passes is NEVER as effecient as the way EPL is made up.

[Pokervriend]

OK, I meant to say world cup but hey you got me there. But back to the point, the guy is obviously a Man Utd fan so he was offended by my praise in another team. Man City has to use Adam Johnson wisely, he is good when he is ready and you know thats true. I onced doubted his ability, but after watching him this season I think his progress through Mancini. As for Silva, he is an assist man, hes not going to get an assist every game and thats football. Unless you are Arsenal during the Henry era.

For my comment on EPL passing, I'm including clearance/long throws/haymakers. La Liga might have the short passes, but if you play real football like I do, you will know short passes is NEVER as effecient as the way EPL is made up.

Really? I think the 'Barca style' is 10 times as effective as EPL playing style. I think ManU will agree after playing against Bilbao:innocent:

[nbn]

To cut this short, let me put it this way. Making short passes and having two effective players on the ball allows the ball to transfer one to another without losing sight/instinct of what is going on around you. Yes, Barcelona plays this well because La Liga is a league that doesn't enhanced the ability to judge the game. An example of this is C. Ronaldo, he is took his skill to Man Utd then Real Madrid and not the other way around.

Stop trying to argue with me, I am the fucking best PES 2012 in the world. To prove this, I am in D1 rated 550 with an average of about 590 without trying much. Example, I open the door, pick up the phone, talk to people. My skill is so defined that I can play Ibra on the wing, Aguero as striker, Puyol as a beast on defense. I will stop here cuz this is not a tryout for a team and yes I've tried out for professional soccer and I am 28 years of age.

[abu97]

I can see with what your saying but your not entirely right. A few years ago, the premier league was more effective tactically but now its collapsed. Arsenal don't play how they used to be few years back, Chelsea are very sloppy with the ball tactically and Man U just sit back and do counters now.
Did you watch the Chelsea match against Napoli in Stamford Bridge. That felt like watching Chelsea back in 2006 as they had awareness around the pitch, they played quick 1-2's all around the back and switched sides effectively. Barca do this every match and so do a lot of the higher-tier teams in the La Liga but in terms of variety, the premier league is more effective ONLY because of the lower teams in the la liga compared with the lowered teams in the EPL (Look at Swansea and Sociedad, obviously Swansea play better tactically).

Anyway I don't play football on the same level as you because I am half your age

[sweetmusicman]

I read on the winning eleven blog that some did "Apply" the content and nothing from his editing was touched. I dunno if someone can apply the DLC and see what happens.. I really do want the whole update but I don't want to lose many info I've been editing.

Agree. I just downloaded it and did select Yes. None of my D2 teams have changed. Even my own created players(imaginary players) are still in my Man United line up.

[marcosonic]

now a days just about every team gets blown away by barcelona. lol. its sad and it angers me alot.

[abu97]

now a days just about every team gets blown away by barcelona. lol. its sad and it angers me alot.
Watch when Milan crush them.




































































Then watch Chelsea crush Milan

[Pokervriend]

Lol:p Possibly, though I think Barca will win quite easily

[abu97]

It won't be as easy as it sounds.


You're right, Barca will crush Milan.:rigbys:






























But Chelsea will crush Barca :terry:

[marcosonic]

i told one of my friend to watch for chelsea. i think theyll give a big surprise.

[Pokervriend]

I don't. They have an aged team and will be blown away by Barca imo:p. Against Miland they may have to play at their top, but Chelsea is weak. I think:

Milan gets blown away by Barca:orly:










Chelsea gets Blown away by Barca:jongcrymore:

[shaun7]

Let me tell you a secret about serie A.

Everything favors AC MILAN would be the short reply. But let me expand it a little bit.

As you may know, I support Juve, but I am not biased. When Juve plays bad, I admit it. When Juve didn't deserve something, I admit it too. But this year, MAN OH MAN, the amount of cheats I've seen against Juve is uncountable. Mention 1 big team that only had 1 PENALTY throughout 3/4's of the season?

Thing is that Juve had at LEAST 6 penalties that were not given. That's saying something right. And who remembers the Boateng DIVE? Yeah that's right. The one where AC MILAN were rewarded with a penalty for and is also the one where the diver, in this case Boateng, never got suspended.

Oh, this is only a small part of it. It's a shame. This was a very shameful year for serie A. Anyone who wants to admit what I said will be saying the truth and anyone who denies, would be only lying to himself.

So as for Milan vs Barca. Obviously Barca are much better than them. Milan are first in serie A because of pathetic decisions made by referees and the association. Milan aren't that good of a team. I am not saying that they're not good. They are. But Barca are much better. But in football everything can happen so who knows.

BTW, before you say anything; I hate Inter, but I don't hate Milan.

[Pokervriend]

I watched Juve- Milan a few weeks ago and Milan completly outplayed Juve. Juventus scored 1-1 late in the match, but they where very lucky with a draw. For the rest, after the recent scandal in Italian soccer, I don't think Juventus should complain about the refs in the next 25 years:D

[abu97]

Juventus surprised me - 20 games unbeaten? That is more than astonishing knowing that they play in the Serie A. Yesterday's result was phenominal eventhough Milan lacked effort but you are in the final so you have definitely secured a place in Europe eventhough you are going to be in the Champions League. First Napoli surprised me as I thought they were gone from there glory days but they've played outsanding the last 2 seasons and the same fro Tottenham. After the match fixing thing in 2006, Juventus were frustrating to watch but they've regained there form and are now 4 points behind Milan. And I agree your not biased as everyone knows Milan cheat. Ibrahimovic is a Class A cunt who dives and is so arrogant its unbelievable. I guess Juve will get far next year in the champions league but to be honest, most of their players are world class so they should be there year in year out.

And don't underestimate Chelsea, especially with their 100% win record with Di Matteo which will hopefully continue after tonight against Man Shitty.

[shaun7]

I watched Juve- Milan a few weeks ago and Milan completly outplayed Juve. Juventus scored 1-1 late in the match, but they where very lucky with a draw. For the rest, after the recent scandal in Italian soccer, I don't think Juventus should complain about the refs in the next 25 years:D

Don't live in the past my friend. It is well known that Inter played Juve to get rid of them. Juve didn't actually do anything "wrong". They did as every other team did.

Inter said that Juve had committed article 1 and the members in the association at that time were there only to make this happen because after calciopoli they resigned. What a coincidence right?

But when Juve said that Inter has done the same things (article 1), you know what the court said?
We cannot do anything because you are the ones being prosecuted.
Really? How can anyone still say that Juve were the ones who f"cked up when in reality, Juve were played out?

And now, some years later. You know what happened? The court said that the case is now old and that Moratti has a right to close it and not be investigated any further. Wow, how can anyone fall for that BS? If he is so innocent, why doesn't he let them investigate? :laugh:

I am not saying this because I support Juve, but because it's the truth.

That was a big f*ck up.

And as for the milan juve in serie A match. Yes I admit, Milan were better. But remember that we were better in the first match against them and we were better overall in both coppa italia games. So 1 bad game out of 4 is actually positive don't you think?

@abu97, I agree about Ibra. ;)

[Pokervriend]

You may be right bro, I am not a Juventus (or Italian soccer in general) fan, so I'm not fully up to date. But I can't imagine they got sent to Serie C because they did everything right:P

[shaun7]

^Serie B, not C. ;) The thing is that all of the serie A teams had violated article 1 including Inter themselves. Oh and I never said that Juve do everything right either. I believe that every team that has money can make an advantage out of the situation but that's another story. The thing is that so far, Juve have suffered much more injustices than any other sere A team combined.

[marcosonic]

i wont rule chelsea out, you might say that they are weak, but the fact that they are not really pushing for any other mayor thropy other than the FA, might make them a very dangerous team even when the last 2 spot for champions league are tight in england.

[abu97]

To be fair, I'd rather have Chelsea concentrate on getting onto the top 4 in the league first than the Champions league. Its a no-brainer as their chances of getting into the final are slim whilst their chances of getting into the top 4 in the league are moderate as as you said the last 2 spot for the champions league is tight. Tottenham is having a stroke of misfortune so if we win at Tottenham this week, we will be edging on them whilst try our hardest for the mid-week game against Benfica.

To verse Benfica is difficult considering they have had a long streak of matches unbeaten and they topped their group with Man Utd in it. If only it was Zenit...

[abu97]

I don't. They have an aged team and will be blown away by Barca imo:p. Against Miland they may have to play at their top, but Chelsea is weak. I think:

Milan gets blown away by Barca:orly:










Chelsea gets Blown away by Barca:jongcrymore:
Ok then

[marcosonic]

i was right about chelsea. unfortunatly i dont think they will win it but sure they give everyone a surprise.

[abu97]

Its because of their confidence and there never-die attitude which makes them so successful. Look at them with Andre Villas-Boas, they were putter under massive pressure and they lost quite a few easy matches

[Du 1337]

Lampard too high? U must be joking...

[abu97]

Lampard too high? U must be joking...
Who said anything about Lamps?